ce883b No.15587139
I'm really enjoying War of the lions but I cannot follow the story for shit
How is princess ovelia not a princess but also a princess? Was delita not working for the guy that becomes Cúchulainn?
Which side are Ramza's brothers on?
Am I just a retard?
a99db8 No.15587143
>>15587139
What version of game are you playing? If you're playing the PSP version are you using the hack to fix the slow down?
9fdc82 No.15587156
>>15587143
He clearly states it's the psp version, you stupid fuck. Kill yourself.
3ab684 No.15587208
>>15587139
>How is princess ovelia not a princess but also a princess?
She's the half sister of the king. Kike A (Goltanna) wants her to assume the throne so she can be his kike puppet and he'll be the de-facto ruler of Ivalice. Kike B (Larg) wants to kill her so that the queen's son will assume the throne, who will be his kike puppet and he'll be the de-facto ruler of Ivalice.
>Was delita not working for the guy that becomes Cúchulainn?
He was a double agent who was actually working for Kike A, this is why when Kike B attacked the monastery in the beginning (with the goal of killing the princess), he instead slipped in the back and kidnapped her.
>Which side are Ramza's brothers on?
Kike B (Larg)
>Am I just a retard?
Probably, wotl without the fan patch is unplayable with all cast animations running at half of the intended framerate.
ce883b No.15587230
>>15587143
I'm playing the android port
>>15587208
Thanks, this clears up a lot
Haven't had any problems with animations so far
3ab684 No.15587241
>>15587230
>android port
You're good to go then, the PSP version is the one that's uniquely fucked up.
21479c No.15587261
>>15587241
>>15587230
Wait, what's the difference between the two?
b75e8b No.15587281
>>15587208
Isn't Ovelia just a physical double who got raised in a monastery with Alma? The real princess is somewhere out there if not dead. Would it be fair to say that the game takes place in the future after FF12 since lost ancient civilizations are a thing?
>>15587261
PSP has more content and classes but original doesn't have slowdown and uses normal english.
3ab684 No.15587295
>>15587261
Between psp and non-psp wotl? This.
>>15587281
Yeah that sounds about right.
a99db8 No.15587301
>>15587156
> only person that needs to kill themselves here is you moron.
a99db8 No.15587304
>>15587281
As far as I remember the Android version is just a better Port of the PSP version. Vanilla PSP version is God awful because of the animation slow down. But that can be remedied with a hack. It's amazing to me that squaresoft allowed that game to ship in such an awful condition. The only other problem is the audio on both the Android and PSP versions is inaccurate as they lack proper Reverb of the original PlayStation version. So they sound effects for anyone that's really familiar with the original seem off. But if you've never played through the original it won't matter.
a99db8 No.15587310
>>15587281
The original PlayStation version is full of really bad translation errors, so that made it even more difficult to follow. I know that some people have been working on patching the original PlayStation version with the script from the PSP version but I don't know if they will ever finish.
987050 No.15587341
>>15587301
That's not how you greentext, friendo.
bb6441 No.15587357
Reminder Delita is a faggot who deserved the stabbing that he got.
ed637d No.15587572
>>15587357
You mean ramza for being soyboy and a faggot.
1bc7b6 No.15587577
>>15587310
> I know that some people have been working on patching the original PlayStation version with the script from the PSP version
Why? Both translations are garbage, better off just fucking re-doing it.
c88175 No.15587580
>>15587572
Ramza literally did the right thing in every situation after Delita left.
b75e8b No.15587592
>anons posting ITT who do not like l i t t l e money
a9bba6 No.15587609
Delita did everything wrong
a99db8 No.15587632
>>15587577
That would take too much time and effort.
a99db8 No.15587644
>>15587592
> I had a good feeling
>This is the way
You just reminded me of the treasure hunting and Guild quest stuff from that game, LOL
c88175 No.15587660
>>15587644
The best part of the original translation was that Ramza's skillset was called "Guts" instead of "Mettle."
d2adf1 No.15588933
Besides the obvious strategies of Calculator, Ninja/Monk, Olrandeau, and LOCAL MAN SCREAMS HIMSELF TO MACH 9, how else can you break the shit out of this game? My favorite way to play this game is too see just how ungodly OP I can become. Bonus points if I can make my generics OP as well.
6c6366 No.15589089
>>15588933
you can use Orator skills to permanently change your Bravery and Faith values, and certain reaction commands with 99 brave can just make you completely immune to physical attacks.
99 Faith can also make mages completely busted as long as you don't let them get hit by enemy magic. 1 Faith, on the other hand, makes you almost immune to magic. This also applies to friendly magic though, so it's best for units that A) have reliable self healing or items, and B) have gear that provides buffs, especially haste. Any units with Knight Swords easily fulfull the second condition, particularly your unique units with sword skill classes, as their damage is based on Phys stats and unaffected by Faith.
9e6032 No.15589122
So how long before they rebrand the android version and sell this fucker on steam for 30?
50e327 No.15589157
>>15589122
The next time Squenix has some bad news (FF7 remake delayed/nothing to release for a long time/whatever) and needs to pretend they're actually working on something, they'll throw it up there in one big unpatched mess.
000000 No.15589396
>>15587208
But Agrias said the attack on the monastery was done by Goltanna's troops, which turned out to be a diversion for Delita to get inside and snatch her. Ramza was working for the Order of the Northern Sky as a merc at the beginning. They only tried to kill Ovelia when Gafgarion betrayed Ramza.
5c4bbe No.15589415
All the Moogles, brown girls and lizard people die.
3ab684 No.15589437
>>15589396
>But Agrias said the attack on the monastery was done by Goltanna's troops
It was a actually a false flag op. Those weren't Goltanna's troops.
000000 No.15589547
>>15587580
>>15587609
Ramza preaches about equality, so he is shit.
Ramza did everything wrong.
bb6441 No.15589640
>>15587572
>>15589547
>defending a power hungry traitor who uses his friends and perpetuates lies
Found the jew
d10361 No.15590008
>>15589089
doesn't really high faith make your units leave to go on a spiritual journey or some shit?
2dc644 No.15590014
>>15590008
Yeah, 100 Faith will make them leave, that's why you 'freeze' them at 99 at the most.
8d7a1d No.15590030
>>15587572
>Demon Slayer Ramza
>A faggot
…Did you even play the game?
8d7a1d No.15590037
>>15589547
Here's a question. Since they ramrod FFT into FF12, where were the Moogles, Bunny Girls, Orc Piggus and Lizard Folks?
77cc1f No.15590129
What's the best version for android?
edc49b No.15590445
>Am I just a retard?
Apparently so, or you could learn how to read
c2871e No.15590469
>>15590037
FFT takes place centuries and centuries after FF12 and humans are the only race left.
>The greatest difference from the Ivalice of other series is that humans are the only sentient species in this world. Humans have been creating settlements and kingdoms since ancient times, and most of the ruins found throughout Ivalice and the regions around it contain artifacts that point out humans as the dominant race in this world.
>However, recent digs have found traces of non-human civilization in many parts of Ivalice. One of the ancient civilizations discovered is the race of creatures known as moogles. The proof of their existence is said to be found deep within the woods of the Siedge Weald as well as in the ruins of Clockwork City of Goug. Deep beneath the grounds of the city are machines that saw extensive use at the time of Saint Ajora. Some records hold that Goug was itself the capital city for moogles in ancient times, and that moogles were an industrious race with a wizardry in engineering. At present, moogles only exist in spirit form known as Espers.
>In fact, in Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift, Goug is actually a city where moogles live. This hints not only that the aforesaid is true but also that Final Fantasy Tactics A2 takes place before Tactics.
bbde54 No.15590473
>>15587156
he posted a picture of the psp version which doesnt really mean shit and you ended up being wrong anyways. how do you feel about?
edc49b No.15590481
>>15587281
I dont remember the speech the head of the Zodiac knights gives to Ovelia after their coup d'état, the guy explains that the church also wants to claim the throne of ivalice using her. He talks about her origins, i also seem to remember him saying she is not the real princess, which conflicts with what i read on the wiki.
edc49b No.15590489
>>15590129
Emulating the PsX version.
There is also a patch that has a better translation but doesnt go full ye olde english like the psp version which I found cringy
edc49b No.15590523
>>15588933
Duplicate the rare katanas and make an army of invincible samurais
Do the JP glitch to learn every magic spell at the beggining of the game.
Use the level down traps to min max until your character becomes a powerhouse.
1267b8 No.15591041
>>15587139
>Am I just a retard?
Completely.
f40140 No.15598414
Anyone tried the 1.3 fan patches?
94776f No.15598500
>>15587281
Yes FFT takes place after FF12, FF12 is probably some thousands of years in the past, considering airships ceased to exist by FFT yet the final battle takes place in an airship grave yard, this more or less directly proves FF12 with all its airships, to take place in the past.
More than that though I do believe there are some direct references to ajora, as well as ultima the high seraph, being a summon in 12, as well as all the other zodiacs.
9dd82d No.15598901
>>15598500
>I do believe there are some direct references to ajora
There were none. FF 12 events happened ~600 years before Ajora's time.
>ultima the high seraph, being a summon in 12, as well as all the other zodiacs.
That's correct. She was third most powerful esper in FF 12. Only Chaos and Zodiark were stronger than her.
94776f No.15598985
>>15598901
>The Magick Pot bestiary entry mentions Saint Ajora as the founder of a separate sect of the Light of Kiltia, claiming Faram as the one true god, that decreased the numbers of the Light of Kiltia sect.
You can just look up shit on the FF wiki you know
000000 No.15600540
>>15589640
Projecting kike. Equality never existed, and never will.
Subhumans are not people, and it is ok to use and discard them.
>>15590037
Tactics makes references to previous games in it's quests. You can find all sorts of things, from the ruins of FF 2's Dreadnought Airship, to FF 7's Materias.
Tactics story takes place in basically the after-apocalyptic time, were all previous games (and 12) are in the past, and are shown to have only ruins and relics left of all of them, and after a complete apocalypse of all previous civilizations from all games, until humanity rebuilt society.
c88175 No.15600578
>>15589547
He preaches about equality among the peasantry and nobility. Everyone in the game is white.
8e6ec5 No.15601114
>>15600578
Got a problem with that ?
9e6032 No.15601163
>>15600578
>everyone is white
I haven't played this game in over 10 years but I remember two of the worst characters in the game, Rafa and Malak, and they were definitely not white.
2b00cf No.15601245
>>15588933
Two dancers, one bard, two mimes. Slow dance the shit out of everything, cheer song and battle song the shit out of your own party, and then wiznaibus enemies for massive damage. The mimes have the highest attack growth in the game, so they make excellent dancers and they easy to use mimic with. It's a slow method, but it's a lot of fun. I played through the entire game doing this starting from the middle of chapter 1.
bb6441 No.15601279
>>15600540
>muh equality
Nothing about being against Delita favors equality you colossal retard. Traitors and their supporters get the rope.
8e6ec5 No.15601281
>>15601163
I don't remember Rafa being too bad, she had high faith and MP, and could equip decent armor for a magic user as well as hit super hard with the rods, so she could do fine with second magic or fighting classes and use Truth when there was a good chance of devastating a guy that got into a bad position.
9e6032 No.15602629
"Blame yourself or God" is the best line in all of Final Fantasy. Prove me wrong.
8d7a1d No.15602658
>>15600540
So, wait…FFT is like the Turn A of Final Fantasy? Every game leads up to FFT?
8d7a1d No.15602661
>>15601281
Rafa and Malak ain't too bad…..if you don't have them be their unique class.
b75e8b No.15602673
Thank god I found this pic a kind drawfag here did a long time ago. I will post the references too. It sucks that Agrias gets the short stick in most of the porn doujins.
a81634 No.15602679
is the DS FFT game any good?
30450d No.15602693
>>15602679
it's decent mechanically but it never feels like plot is happening. It's pretty much just a kid trying to find a way back to his home dimension. Less bullshit laws though
37c095 No.15602694
>>15588933
Personal favorite is going Monk for the PA and being able to stone people for 500+
>>15601163
Rafa is the person you use for Javelin II and the Escutcheon II as well as all the goodies in midlight deep.
8dcfc3 No.15603634
>>15602693
Less? The laws are bullshit in that game. At least in the GBA FFT, you could work around the laws you don't like..
0c14aa No.15603687
>>15603634
yeah but the downsides to breaking a law are a slap on the wrist compared to gba. Losing a temporary stat bonus and the ability to revive is nothing compared to losing a unit for the rest of the battle and that unit can possibly lose stats permanently or losing one time gear.
75b0f1 No.15603731
>>15602693
>It's decent mechanically but it never feels like plot is happening
This, pretty much. There are plots in FFTA2. Some of them are even pretty decent. But all of them are side quests disconnected from the plot itself, and the main story itself feels like a bunch of unrelated side quests strung together.
One really nice thing about all the actual side quests, though, is that whichever party member you selected for them first is treated as the leader of your party during dialogue. So if you hate the main character's guts, you can basically ignore him outside of the plot and stick with a Viera or Bangaa or something.