/v/ - Video Games

>>15581001

Pete Hines was always a square-headed piece of meatball garbage.

What do you even call this kind of retrofitting? Creating a prequel that fixes the future for what they like?

>>15581051

Retcons are retcons, still won't fix their shit writing, it'll just make Fallout 1, 2 and NV as footnotes in the future.

>Pete Hines

>I created the Elder Scrolls

I want to murder this kike.

>>15581035

That clip makes me like Mr. House.

>>15581055

Pretty much this.

Also, I don't think I have ever met a Bethesda fanboy. Are they rare or only in certain places?

>>15581077

>Not liking House from the start

Did you go with the power fantasy Yes-Man ending?

"Lore, shmore, we write whatever we want and you better eat it."

~current year Bethesda

>the only reason to even pirate bethesda games is because you can mod the fuck out of them

>the games themselves are getting shittier every game behesda releases

>bethesda keeps making games less moddable

>bethesdrones will continue to lap up their vomited up dog shit

>>15581001

at least TES has some vague bullshit explanation about the god of time being raped so hard that every so often you get timeline breaking paradoxes that change shit.

>>15581001

<we are too creatively and morally bankrupt to respect the works of what have made us

Yeah, and I'm not surprised in the least.

>>15581001

>pete hines

yeah, what else to expect from this arrogant fuck.

bethesda is dead for me anyway for 6 years already, there's plenty of better games out there

>>15581289

Not like they're going to use that as an explanation for their retcons. It's this "right side of history" attitude that makes them think they can write a better lore and to fuck with what has been written before. "Look at me, we're the developers now." Fuck that whole monkey theater.

>>15581300

Do you think Peter Hiney has some big dirt on Todd or has he just become a full bend over faggot boy?

>>15581001

The disregard for a consistent story makes me sick. The Elder Scrolls has an in-game though shit reason for it to be messed up, since history is being constantly changed by gods, priests, and elves. Fallout, on the other hand, has a fairly solid narrative running between the original 2 games, so don't ruin good stuff because you didn't make it Pete.

>>15581305

I've heard on numerous occasions from normalfag acquaintances that bethshit is what they come home from work and "turn their mind off" to play. I'm of the mind that it has become more of a cancerous outlet than television.

>>15581332

He represents everything wrong with Bethesda/Zenimax.

>>15581304

Is he even a game dev? He's just a corporate dick pushing stupid ideas. So either Todd agrees with it, or is being pushed away in decision making.

>>15581248

Never played the game. Have only seen memes from it.

>>15581354

Hines owns everything.

>>15581322

You aren't supposed to care anymore, a non. Todd has gone on record telling his writers not to bother with reasons and characters to give context to what you do, only to send them out to kill and loot things as fast as possible. These are not RPG, these aren't even action adventure or open world games, they're literally just skinnier boxes designed to make your brain release dopamine for loot drops.

>>15581375

It's a good business decision. Remember he said they'd stop re-releasing Skyrim when people stopped buying it.

I can agree with Elder Scrolls since that one ex story writer who sat on twitter spewing headcanon to who ever asked was somewhat ridiculous.

>>15581329

that only happened because of reddit, and EA only semi gave a shit because, yknow, normones pay for games, you don't

>>15581316

This reminds me I overheard two girls on the train talking about video games, one was selling the other on Horizon Zero Dawn "So it's like Skyrim meets Fallout"

>>15581001

Gameplay is more important than lore to make sure a game is good, most of the time, but god I hate devs who butcher pre-established lore to do "cool" shit, work WITH it, not AGAINST it, you incompetent fucks.

>Haha wouldn't it be cool if Fallout had Skyrim dragons though?

I'm glad they are shitting on all their lorefag fans who put up with repeated dumbing down of systems because they like to e-LARP.

>>15581544

What? Make like a giant mutant buzzard that vomits stomach acid on people that would be both new and fit in the lore to some degree (if you ignore the whole mutation virus timeline) no fuck that, add winged deathclaws that breath green fire instead!

>>15581601

I said a new universe, not a new IP.

>>15581322

You've got it wrong. These dumb fucks aren't the ones creating these worlds and lore. They've simply bought it and are butchering it for profit, nothing less and nothing more. They don't give a shit about it but will still parade it like it's theirs.

>Caring about lore in a video game series.

This is some next level faggotry. I dislike you capeshit cucks and your lore. What happened to just making sequels for the fun of it, not everything has to fit neatly into a universal lore.

>>15581765

You should go back to cuckchan and practice your trolling skills some more in the baby pool.

>>15581695

Ah so so stealth is going to be absolutely fucking useless.

>>15581795

I hadn't even considered that, suppose I assumed they just got rid of it along with everything else.

>>15581833

>have 10 agi since skills don't exist

>have four points in the sneak perk since skills don't exist

>pop a stealth boy

>crouch in a gunfight with another player

>go completely invisible to the other player

>land a single bullet for 15x Sneak Crit damage because you're wearing Legendary Underpants of Niggery

>oneshot the other player

>>15581001

If only they wrote a new fucking engine.

>>15581855

Nigger the bloom/lighting effects and light shafts in Fallout 4 are actually fucking pixelated even if you max out the game, it's incredible frankly.

>>15581858

That's what you get with an engine from 1997.

>>15581695

>Ganking other players is literally impossible because you do such low damage they can ignore it

Wow good game design

>>15581695

I could understand making a PVP attack not do your entire health bar or even half your health bar in damage but this is stupid. It removes tension which should be a big thing in a fucking post-nuclear survival game. Now you don't have to worry about strangers in the distance taking pot shots at you because you can tank the first couple of shots.

>>15581904

It's basically having PvP flags while skipping all the flagging and menu hopping to get there.

>>15581325

>bethesda knew we'd do another salt party so they revealed the ending themselves

We were outsmarted. How can we possibly compete with these masterminds?

The ending is nuking the dragons, by the way. The dragons live underground and come out of big holes, they use magic crystals fungus from their caves turn ghouls into special semi-intelligent ferals able to use guns and covered in crystals, called "the scorched", you need to get the nuclear launch codes so you can nuke their holes and seal them away.

>>15581051

Fix fanfic. It's a trash category for a reason.

>>15582016

You wanna hear something even worse?

the scorched ghouls are apparently just ghouls burned by LITERAL NUCLEAR FUCKING FIRE

Because ghouls apparently aren't just irradiated humans

>>15582025

Ghouls were never "just" irradiated humans. IIRC it's a human that had a latent mutant strain of the New Plague and FEV and were exposed to a shit ton of radiation all at once.

>>15582038

Depends on who you ask. Tim Cain said radiation only, Chris Taylor said that it's FEV+Radiation.

>>15582038

>>15582049

In 4, there was at least one ghoul pre-war, who irradiated himself to become immortal some time before the bombs dropped. No FEV involved, just rads. He's even referred to as being the first ghoul.

>>15582049

Tim Cain is a shit though. He only wanted to make a sequel to Wasteland but couldn't get his greasy hands on the IP after the kerfuffle. You want a Tim Cain game? Look at Wasteland 2.

>>15582057

I didn't hate Wasteland 2 as much as I thought I would, but the second part really goes to shit

>>15582057

Oh, and Avellone is on board with the rads only theory.

>>15582055

>caring about Bethesda lore

Let's talk about how aliens started the war, or how some guy and his family has been alive for over 300 years because "artifacts", or how some ghoul kid had been stuck in a fridge for 200 years, or how the Capital Wasteland looked like it was fresh from the nukes 200+ years.

>>15581904

>ganking is impossible

no it just requires a lot of people;

If it takes 40 hits to kill someone in this system, just get a squad of about of 10 people or more and make a firing squad or something and just use fast guns to kill people really quickly(damage wouldn't matter due to scaling).

>>15582049

That sounds like the difference between who's taking the setting seriously and who isn't to me.

>>15582062

I'm not saying I care about Bethesda lore, I'm just correcting the statement that they were "never" just irradiated humans.

>>15582058

>>15582060

The issue is thinking Fallout is a one man game. This is a collaborative effort; when every guy brings his talent to the table and focuses on his talent, it's amazing despite the flaws. If he goes out of his depth, its shit. The game is as much Cain, Avellone, and Taylor as it is Urquhart, Zur, and Boyarsky.

That being said, I think it's more interesting if it was a FEV/NP mix with the Rads, but I'd prefer an uncertainty.

>>15582070

I bet you don't know who either of those people are, you bandwagon faggot.

>>15582081

and Morgan

>>15582081

Either way, FEVmanlet or Radchad, those fuckers aren't able to survive actual nuclear fire to become Bethesda's Scorched ghouls.

>>15582089

If they're saying that ALL ghouls are scorched, that's retarded. If it's a variety, it's the least offensive addition they've made. It's silly, but it's not entirely out of line or beyond believability. They need to stop with the aliens and magic shit.

>>15582099

What? You don't like batdragons that blow your shit up by screaming?

>>15582067

>>15581904

It isn't impossible, and they even have a system in place to punish you for it if you do manage to. No rewards at all, and you get marked as a wanted murderer, where everyone playing on the server gets a marker on their maps tracking your location and a bounty to hunt you down and kill you for doubled PvP rewards.

>>15582081

>I'd prefer an uncertainty

It could lead to potentially interesting plotlines if exactly how ghouls are made is discovered. For example, a scientist researching ghouls discovered a repeatable and relatively reliable circumstance to artificially ghoulify someone, and then you could have a plotline focused around some people wanting to willingly ghoulify themselves, some other people who are against the process for whatever reasons, could also have some ghoul hating bigots trying to destroy it all. Personally, I'd like to see some long time ghouls weighing in on the process. It could have a ghoul who fanatically supports it, thinking ghouls are the way forward, mirroring the Super Mutants in 1; another who thinks it's a horrific process and sees it as a curse he wouldn't want to inflict on anyone; a ghoul who's fine with being a ghoul but doesn't think people fully understand the complications with it as a middle ground between the other two; sleezy assholes pushing people to ghoulify themselves with misinfo and hyping it up as a great thing for a variety of reasons - either because they actually somehow think it's a good thing, or because they think it's a hilarious ruse. There's quite a lot that could be done with it, especially if you had some competent writers in charge of it.

>>15582099

Not all ghouls are scorched, only the ghouls infected with the mind controlling fungus the dragons brought to the surface.

>>15582119

Sounds like a rehash of F1 tbh. I think they should play up how demented, twisted, and physically rotten ghouls are.

>only the ghouls that have been infected by the fungus brought to the surface by the bat-dragons.

There's the retardation. How hard is it to just say "out of control superweapon" or something?

>>15582119

>No rewards at all, and you get marked as a wanted murderer

The gank is the only needed reward, reaching "high level" in these types of game is shit anyway;

fucking around with other players is pretty much the highest point of MMOs.

Also just a thought, the reward system quite literally brings actually PvP to you, which might actually be a reward for the "murderer" in most cases, especially in a gank squad situation. actually was it explained if being a murderer means that you're in constant "pvp" mode?

If not you couldn't even just pick out the murderer in a crowd and snipe him, you'd do jack shit damage and reveal yourself and won't be doing enough until the murderer attacks you.

>>15582125

>How hard is it to just say "out of control superweapon" or something?

How hard is it to have a single game without the BoS? How hard is it to say the remnant soldiers in the area tried forming a new faction similar to the BoS, but entirely unrelated, and got wiped out? How hard is it to have a single game without super mutants? How hard is it to hire a competent writer? How hard is it to clean up all the garbage in your city, homes, and scientific facilities? How hard is it to bury some of the 200+ year old corpses just across the street from your home?

All far too hard for Bethesda. No matter how low I set my expectations, they always find a way to disappoint.

>>15582132

That's exactly what I've been thinking. Their system to punish griefing or randomly murdering seems more like a reward when looked at from the perspective of the griefer/murderer. I'm assuming it flags you as being in pvp with everyone in the server, otherwise you'd be able to just ignore challenges from people trying to collect on the bounty, which would be retarded. But since it's retarded, I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda did that too.

I don't see the point to the system either way. Either have full PvP, or have the option to opt-in/out of PvP, or have it set on a server to server basis; this half assed system captures the worst of both, and I can't see it making anyone happy. People who like challenge PvP systems or want ordinary PvP will hate the system for preventing it and making challenges heavily biased in favor towards the challenged person getting the first real shot (they have plenty of time to line up a good, strong, full damage headshot, while the attacker can only do slap damage), people who don't want to PvP at all will still get killed and still need to PvP, and people who want to play it like Rust or whatever and go full murderhobo will hate it for having challenges instead of open PvP. And since you can't loot people for anything other than junk, there's no fun in killing someone to steal his shit, since all you can take from him is his tin can and empty milk bottle collection.

>>15582149

Well Bethesda having any idea what they're doing is unlikely…

Also here's another thought, if its triggered by say the "challenged opponent" attacking, then it'll also be easy to abuse by hanging around areas with enemies and just waiting till someone gets into a combat situation and shooting them in the back;

this might be easiest way to grief if its possible and it sounds like bethesda tier coding so its pretty likely.

I can't see this system being anything more than a hack job like most things bethesda.

>>15581911

Be honest 90% of PVP is one side getting their ass handed to them. It's not fun.

>>15582207

git gud

>>15581035

>Todd Howard still can't let go of his BoS boner

That's because he sees himself and his Silicon Valley buddies as BoS. He sees himself and his friends as the tech hoarding elite that are the only ones capable of making decisions for the masses.

The Godd Todd meme is likely his own unironic creation

>>15582149

>How hard is it to have a single game without super mutants?

I don't usually praise much about Fallout 3 but at least that one had all the differences with them justified because those were a different strain of super mutants from a different source. Of course everything else has to be mangled anyway.

>>15582234

>think you're a technocratic demigod

>can't get ladders to work

>>15581001

>bethcucks need to be gassed

What if I just like The Elder Scrolls and don't give a shit about Bethesda's terrible take on Fallout?

>>15582237

Sorry your mobile game general got bumped down the catalog.

>>15582245

You’re still fucked since Elder Scrolls is equally as shit post Morrowind.

>>15582242

That sounds like the company MO to me.

>>15582245

And yet you're still into the terrible take on TES they've settled into since all the talent left after Morrowind?

>>15582207

Just don't play competitive videogames and stick to sp or co-op, then. There are numerous reasons why you shouldn't take competitive videogames seriously, the number one being they're unbalanced shit and aren't fun, number two being the communities are underage, teenager faggots, number three you will be stomped by these underage teenager faggots because you don't have all day to dedicate to shitgame2 but they do. There's just no reason to play. Take the co-op pill and let the meta-riding tryhards roll in their own shit with each other.

>>15582248

Both Oblivion and Skyrim are fun. They have flaws, but they don't do anything that ruins the series. The next game will be the real test. Morrowind was also a massive step down from Daggerfall, so stop sucking its dick.

>>15582266

Stay mad bethcuckold.

>decide to ship Rust 2: Fallout Edition

>market it for shit

>have no NCPs, no good quests

>only thing saving it will be the writing, it's a good book goys

>decide to rape the lore entirely

>game play is shit, nearly everyone who spent months hyping the game are back peddling, justifying, and excusing it. "It's good after you've gotten used to it."

>most honest admit if you like a regular Fallout experience you'll hate this game.

>it'll probably launch broken

Mark these words anons, Pete Hines and probably Todd Howard will not be working at Bethesda within a few years. Hines is going first. The asshole has destroyed the company's reputation with his shit marketing skills. Howard they'll probably keep on but he ain't getting millions anymore.

Sounds like Trumps Brother is asserting control over the company, so that means their anti white bullshit will be coming to an end as well. Wait to hear of Restructurings in the near future.

>>15582298

If anything this sounds like a controlled failure to manufacture some sort of retarded redemption arc with Todd and whatever their next game is. It'll be terrible, but not quite as terrible and everyone will praise it while having their standards subtle lowered without them realizing it.

>>15582260

Imagine being so asshurt about losing any kind of competition that you refuse to try an entire genre. Are you worried about your ego? God forbid somebody proves you're not as smart as you think you are.

>>15582298

>decide to ship Rust 2: Fallout Edition

I still don't quite understand the why. I mean, I get that Bethesda are run by a Jew so Jewish the other kikes blacklisted him, but why would you take one of your two flagship franchises and shit out a game Bethesda is woefully unqualified to make. The shooting mechanics in FO4 are shit and I shudder to think what they'll do with the netcode, and on top of that the game doesn't even have any of the "quality" features they're famous for, like quests and exploration.

>decide to rape the lore entirely

They did that with FO3 already. BoS went from xenophobic, basement dwelling tech hoarders to paladins of the Wasteland and supermutants became orcs, and these two groups, along with the Enclave, somehow warped over to the East Coast despite the two previous games making it blatantly obvious they were wholly local affairs.

>>15582374

It's one thing to make a game Bethesda could never possibly get right, but another thing entirely when that game is chasing a long dead fad. Fallout 4 being a Rust clone would've been seen as a stale imitation and that was 3 years ago.

>>15581001

>Pete Hines doesn't care about anything

News at 11. Someone post the image of one of his tweets where he shuts down the valid concerns regarding continuity in Fallout 4 with some obnoxious and hand waving retort that basically boils down to, "gee, kid, get a life, who cares about consistency in a video game"

>>15581236

Why do you post these reddit-tier shitmemes?

>>15581001

The same result, as always, for supporting any company at all.

All companies are enemies of consumers.

Never pay for any entertainment at all.

>>15582309

Nice try with your bait trying to get warm blood into whatever game you killed with your tryhard faggotry, but I have better things to do. Better luck next time!

>>15581035

I liked the legion simply because Kaiser wasn’t a bad guy written to be one dimensional. Most villains are that way in modern media “I r do da ebil thing because I da bad u wouldn’t unstand”

I love how BoS is retconned from a bunch of nonsensical tech hoarder into heroes of the wasteland by Bethesda. I'm tired of muh every faction is grey faction meme, Tim Cain's and Josh Sawyer's pessimistic look of the future and beyond isn't even something novel, I'm much happier to see people having the conscience to do the right thing regardless of their faction.

Aside from that, only manchildren hold their precious video game lore religiously. Plot literally doesn't matter.

>>15581889

Not 'one of the creatures', the main quest of 76 revolves around killing these rad-dragons or whatever. They literally took Skyrim's questline, copypasted it into Fallout 4 and are selling it to morons for $60

>>15582149

A PvE/PvP option would be more than expected, its the standard for online Survival genre theres no need to reinvente the wheel. Its a convoluted solution instead of a simple one.

Even Ubisoft conceptually had a better idea with The Division, have a zone just for PvP with high level stuff and timed events while the rest of the game is PvE.

>>15582447

If plot doesn't matter then why is it being forced more and more on us with the Besthesda games, Todd?

>>15582475

>being forced more and more on us

With 76, definitely not.

>>15582395

>Pete Hines doesn't care

No, he does care, he deliberately wants to destroy the old.

>>15582506

This, fucker wants to re-write shit and call it his.

>>15581695

Don't want to be o scare off the normalfags and get bad reviews for a toxic player environment. This shit is fucking gay.

>>15582374

>BoS went from xenophobic, basement dwelling tech hoarders to paladins of the Wasteland

This was actually handled relatively well, compared to all of their other lore raping. If you bothered to look into it, you'd find out that the Elder chose to abandon the BoS's ideals, and that the west coast BoS has completely disowned the splinter group from 3. There was even an entire side faction, the Outcasts, who remained true to the BoS's ideals and were openly hostile to what they considered the false BoS, and if you earned their trust they'd tell you about how once they manage to get back into contact with the west coast BoS, they want to have Lyons given trial and executed for his betrayal. That isn't even a retcon, it's a group going rogue and betraying their faction.

The BoS being there at all, however, goes against how small and local they were portrayed as being in the previous games, so I won't argue with that point.

>>15582570

Really they shouldn't even be called the Brotherhood of Steel. That was just for vicarious nostalgiafaggotry and it wouldn't made way more sense if the leader was an ex member who said fuck it and just made a completely differently named faction.

>>15582570

>The BoS being there at all, however, goes against how small and local they were portrayed as being in the previous games

Didn't they have a few stations spread across the map of FO2?

>>15582574

Even the fascist expansionist BoS in Tactics made more sense.

Mind you, Bethesda Fallouts employ similar nostalgia tactics to other modern media by raping everything, but selectively using old themes too in a shallow, superficial manner to pretend that it's totally like the old installments. How can you think the new Fallouts are not like the old? Look, it has vaults, jumpsuits, the Vault Boy, and every new protagonist is a vault dweller! I can compare it to tankies on /pol/ trying to convert National Socialists to their beliefs by being all "look, we were racist too! niggers! kikes!"

>>15582592

That's why I used the word vicarious. It's for people who want to pretend they like the series to seem cool and cultured, not the ones who actually like it. If you remember when Fallout 4 was getting trashed all the retarded fanboys were calling everyone who hated it CoD fans without a hint of self awareness. They are that insecure.

>>15582570

>the west coast BoS has completely disowned the splinter group from 3

It's still stupid, it's still cringe as fuck, and it still makes no fucking sense. FO2 handled it with far more grace, with the BoS realizing post-FO1 that they couldn't hide in their bunker forever and needed to make their presence felt in the Wasteland, but even that wasn't enough and they ended up being a footnote when nation states once again rose.

FO3 is just fucking godawful in every way imaginable, to the point even Tactics does a better, and more realistic, job of portraying the Brotherhood and their dealings with other groups.

What kind of cuck do you have to be to defend Bethesda's shit writing?

>>15582586

By then it was made pretty clear they were a spent force mostly clinging to past glory in a world that had passed them by. They had outposts, but all that did was spread what resources they had left even thinner.

>>15582574

Yeah, I agree with that. It's stupid that the real BoS is called the "Brotherhood Outcasts" and the false BoS is called the "Brotherhood of Steel". All it did was cause a tonne of confusion for anyone new to the series and piss off all of the existing fans. I'd have much rather seen an all new faction, the BoS and Enclave can't be the only groups in the entire country to have access to power armor, and can't be the only remnants of the pre-war military and government, it wouldn't be hard to have some new faction on the east coast wearing power armor formed from the remnants of some military bunker or vault.

>>15582602

Oi vey, don't you know that if you don't blindly worship a company and endlessly fellate every change or retcon they make, you aren't a True Fan™? If you have any negative criticism of any game, you must hate everything about the entire series!

>>15582608

Like I said, I'm not defending the BoS being there. It just annoys me when people claim Lyons betraying the Brotherhood is somehow a retcon of the Brotherhood themselves or their history. Lyons' betrayal not being a retcon is the only thing I'm defending - and like I said in the post you're replying to, I'm against the fact that Lyons and the BoS was even there in the first place.

>>15581236

This man is correct. Listen to this man. I eternally hate todd posters when they vote bombed the infinity cup, and said nobody cares about it.

>>15581236

Todd is a hero to the common man.

>>15582602

I'm not a native English speaker so this is a word I'll need to keep in mind to describe this phenomenon. Thanks.

> If you remember when Fallout 4 was getting trashed all the retarded fanboys were calling everyone who hated it CoD fans without a hint of self awareness.

Reminds me of GTA IV fanboys (it's a good game unlike Beth Fallout though, just not solely due to MUH STORY) who would tell you to go back to linear games like CoD if you don't appreciate GTA IV's deep story telling (citing the few moments you could kill or spare someone as deep moral choices despite being laughable compared to any PC RPG from decades prior, and also ignoring that GTA isn't even that non-linear, yeah you can dick around in between missions and take some of them out of order but the story is always the same).

A lot of people here assume everyone else is just one big mass of casuals, but there's many factions out there. There's the casuals by the pure definition of the word, who don't really care that much about video games only playing them a few hours a week for mindless fun and just slowly turn the industry to shit through apathy. There's SJWs who don't even play video games (which is why any game solely based on pandering to them fails), but pretend they do because they want cultural hegemony over it like with any media. Then there's nu gamer types, for whom FO4 is the exact kind of game tailored to, they may have some deeper knowledge about vidya and play it as much as any dedicated gamer but suck at it and will actually go out of their way to defend dumbing down of games.

I think the latter group is far more cancerous because of that. Casuals can still be sold more sophisticated games with the right marketing, games were more complex back during the sixth gen and earlier and the casual types surrounding me still had no problem playing them - they only accepted the dumbed down shit of today because they don't care.

>>15581695

How would that work if there is a group just griefing one person? How about if there was a person who acts as the initiator doing melee damage to force pvp to activate by getting in front of the person's face and whacking them until they're annoyed and start a fight. Can their group or anyone join in to fight and kill the victim or their decoy as well? Is it possible to have a team that can roam on one person to annoy them with pellet shots until they relent to fight or is pvp allowed only on one-on-one duels to who initiates it first and the others do small damage that can easily be healed by going to the inventory to heal after winning the one-on-one fight?

If a group gang up on one person, even if the other person doesn't fight back and lets you kill them, does it affect the whole group or the last person that shot them? Can the group use their pvp initiation damage reduction shield to block the wanted criminal from major damage in a fight? I'm sure they haven't thought this far ahead but those are possibilities that can happen with such a backwards pvp system in place.

>>15582374

>I still don't quite understand the why

Near as I can tell from everything after the failure of every one of their work single player games the company decided that it wasn't that they had had a one hit wonder with Skyrim, it wasn't that their writing was terrible, it wasn't their game play bland an uninspiring it was according to leaks the single player component. So they whole company is trying to switch over to a games as a service model.

Keep in mind their other games as a service, Quake Champions is doing so bad they lowered their microtransaction fees for new characters unlocks. It is doing so bad that even after being given away for free in humble bundle monthly it still has virtually no community around it.

That and the company apparently can't retain good talent so it is awash with retards from Gender Studies programming classes who don't know anything other than what's meme popular.

>They did that with FO3 already. BoS went from xenophobic, basement dwelling tech hoarders to paladins of the Wasteland and supermutants became orcs

The Brotherhood hoarded technology yes, but they were always altruistic in the lore. Their influence grew out of helping people afflicted by the Master's Army, and aiding the Chosen One against the Enclave. Bethesda then just opted to erase everything positive and act like it was weird for a branch to do some duh maneuvers to secure a region.

Everything with that game was absolutely garbage, but just not in the way some people think.

>>15581001

they stop giving a shit about lore since money came into play

>>15582727

>but they were always altruistic in the lore

They send you on a suicide mission the first time you come to their bunker, and you have to bend over backwards to make them understand what a threat the Master represents to them and the Wasteland.

>and aiding the Chosen One against the Enclave

Not by choice. By then they were so weakened they had no chance of opposing them unassisted.

todd posting is one of the easiest ways to spot a redditor. it is blatant marketing

>>15582760

>They send you on a suicide mission the first time you come to their bunker, and you have to bend over backwards to make them understand what a threat the Master represents to them and the Wasteland.

You can be altruistic and a complete asshole at the same time. It's called being selective and self serving. I never said the Brotherhood were the Followers of the Apocalypse.

>Not by choice. By then they were so weakened they had no chance of opposing them unassisted.

From the very first moment they meet you they're guiding you along your path and measuring you to see if you are truly worthy of being the decedent of the Vault Dweller whom they also hold in high regard. The Enclave were a massive organization, still somewhat are with access to manufacturing facilities, weapons, extremely powerful weapons. It was pretty much a lucky shot that the Chosen One won at all and even with the destruction the Brotherhood launched their major offensive against the Enclave decimating a huge swath of their forces.

>>15582049

>>15582038

Look at Necropolis, the reason why it's a city filled with nothing but ghouls is because the vault underneath the city had a little problem with outside radiation leaking in, turning everyone into ghouls.

>>15582234

>his Silicon Valley buddies

>implying Todd has any friends outside of the DC area

>>15583019

It's the east coast branch of Silicone Valley, anon. Not a retcon at all.

>>15582062

Beth lore is best, your guy travels from DC to Pittsburg on a pump trolley just to get himself enslaved so that he can infiltrate the city. In new gayass you're just some over glorified mailman.

>>15583039

obsidiots btfo

>>15583062

Reminder that one off ironic posts like this will be overlooked but in time they will become more and more prominent and people will ignore them until they are the bulk of post here at which point this will be just like current cuckchan.

>>15583086

>ironic

>>15581248

>not ruling vegas yourself

what a submissive little bitchboy

>>15581001

>Read only the highlighted part

>Know just from how retarded it is that Pete Hines is the one spewing that bullshit

Wew. I'm convinced that the fucker just wants to piss people off at this point deliberately, even if it means less revenue and bad press in the long run. This seems to be common with a lot of businesses these days and then they later whine and cry when they either are making less money or are going out of business.

>>15581236

I actually agree with this and I don't even hate Todd. I think he's full of it but mostly harmless in his own bullshit.

>going

The were always full retard, they just had the momentum from buying others. Now that momentum is off, they will die quickly as no one wants SJW garbage and "MUH IS KING, MUH SAVE WORLD" BS. Except the brainiacs who pruduce that shit.

Just looking at their faces and narrow eyes tell me what they are: Morons with no brains.

>>15581001

I predict TES6 is going to be reboot of Daggerfall, with new lore that doesn't fit any previous game except skyrim.

>>15583345

>implying it will even have lore

A reminder that they said that fallout 76 was gonna have no story, that the story was gonna be built by the conflicts between players, and that conflicting was gonna punish the players. I just wanted a coop comfy fallout based in the south west near new mexico, no retcons

>>15582988

Could still be a New Plague deal, or it could be that they were also exposed to FEV. If they were just exposed to rads, they'd be deaf.

>>15583377

>A reminder that they said that fallout 76 was gonna have no story, that the story was gonna be built by the conflicts between players

That was a lie. It has a story. It's just a fucking terrible story that will make you wish it didn't have one at all.

>>15582260

>Just don't play competitive videogames and stick to sp or co-op, then.

mmos aren't competitive. rts, fps and beat 'em ups are.

>>15583426

>It's just a fucking terrible story that will make you wish it didn't have one at all.

So nothing has changed.

>>15583549

>mmos aren't competitive

They are competitive, hyper competitive when you go to endgame content. If you are so much as a couple weeks behind then you'll be left behind and dropped by whoever you'd party with regularly even possibly being kicked out of the guild you're in. For dedicated raid guilds don't be surprised if you have to write a job essay.

>>15583158

It's lore authenticity, not lore accuracy you shitlord.

>>15582718

>Don't embarrass /pol/

Too late a majority of that userbase does it themselves also he's right, people toddposting are contributing to a meme that paints todd in a somewhat favorable light as a "funny guy"

>>15583906

Nobody braindead enough to actually praise Todd would be convinced by a bunch of ironic and facetious images.

This is what happens when jews get into game developing.

>>15581035

>>15581001

Remember that Fallout (the first one) had actually a BAD ENDING for helping the BoS too much?

The BoS was always seen as a relic of the past unwilling of letting go that the US was destroyed and something new came up.

Sure as raiders they did more good than bad, trying to secure and lock away powerful (and dangerous) prewar tech.

However just like the Enclave they only considered themselves as real humans while "natives" were at best beneath them, not to oppress or rule or anything really "bad" but clearly as a blue blood/peasant thing…

Which is what led to fallout tactics (were the guys from that opposed the elders of the BoS for being retards were banished) and Fallout 2 events (the BoS has been hit hard by the NCR and the Enclave and is under siege as even if the NCR doesn't have access to so much tech they still have recovered enough face them with extra bodies).

>>15584125

I wish someone would make an X-Com game where you play as the Enclave and get to purge the Wasteland.

>>15584125

>something NEW came up

>meanwhile NCR spreads like cancer everywhere, being a carbon copy of the current US and destined to follow the same trail

Unlike the NCR, the BoS did move on and formed a militarised society, its only weakness being lack of manpower. Were they to relax their recruting standards (or just fuck and breed more among themselves), they'd be well set to become a post-apo superpower

>>15584154

Both the NCR and BoS are doomed to fail. The NCR because they're trying to revive the same kind of society that nuked the world to hell and the BoS because they just hoard technology and refuse to acknowledge the outside world unless circumstances force them to.

>>15581001

>in franchises that we created

>Fallout series

OH BOY!

>>15584161

>the same kind of society that nuked the world to hell

I want filthy commies off my board.

>>15584161

Agreed, I was mostly disputing the point that BoS didn't move on, when it clearly did, only in an unviable direction. Not that it'd be difficult for BoS to remedy this (just offer free bed and board for any recruits along with promises of plasma guns and powerarmour for anyone that passes, and you'll have half the wasteland flocking to you), but of course it might be too late for that in places neighbouring NCR or similar large factions. They'd have to fuck off somewhere without a major power (which is most of the USA anyway)

>>15584019

I'm still mad you couldn't even repair the fucking Liberty Prime after it got damaged. Everything about FO3 is lazy, makes no sense, and screams incompetence. I think my favourite part is that people in FO3 are too retarded to purify the water on their own, but do know how to mod an old broken water plant to purify it instead using GECK. Or that there's no plants at all (except one play) in all of DC and people somehow survived all that time by eating hundreds of years old food from the nearest mall. It just screams that nobody gave the setting a second thought.

I already played Fallout 76 when it was called Fallout 4 and had some semblance of immersion.

>>15584219

reused assets being 95% of the game is my number one reason for disliking it. all of the voices i heard were by talent from fo4 as well.

>>15584187

>multicultural

>democratic

>sends goys to die for Israel

>nukes the planet to shit along their chink buddies

I see niggers, mudshits and spics running around the Wasteland, so it's obvious the Old World government failed to properly curate who would get into the proper fallout shelters. About the only good thing they did was annex Canada and shoot those filthy leafs dead.

>>15584203

Weren't they recruiting from nearby villages and offering protection in return for other resources in Tactics?

>which is most of the USA anyway

I sincerely doubt that. California can't be the only place with shitloads of industry and tech laying around, and the middle of the US would have likely fared better than the coastal areas due to less big cities to target.

>>15584229

95% reused assets implies they have 5% original assets in the game. Which judging by every single video I've seen is completely untrue. It's more like 99.9% reused assets

>>15584241

>I sincerely doubt that. California can't be the only place with shitloads of industry and tech laying around

Just look at how Beth handled DC - a barren desert nearly devoid of life, much less a civilization.

>>15584263

How are those two things not anti-white you dumb shit?

>>15584241

Pretty funny how the developers for these games only seem to want to see the immediate areas they live near reduced to ashes after the end of the world.

>>15584203

>I think my favourite part is that people in FO3 are too retarded to purify the water on their own, but do know how to mod an old broken water plant to purify it instead using GECK.

They could have easily handwaved that all away by claiming Chinese fuckery. They already put a ton of Chinese remnants in the DC Area - because remember that one Jap from WWII who raided villages in Borneo or something for 40 years because nobody told him the war was over. All they had to do was to claim that the Chinese government had some propaganda plan to use some new chemical weapon that would "salt the earth" and keep DC barren for generations as a symbolic "eternal defeat". Meanwhile, hit DC with low-yield missiles to keep the architecture in place so that the Red Armies could march down Pennsylvania Ave after they crushed the US. The kind of propaganda plan that's made up and put into action - but never actually expected to be carried out by the people who created it, because it's only really for morale. But the war happened so fast, people just followed orders and never stopped to recognize that it was just political posturing.

There… you can explain the lack of vegetation, the persistent radiation, and the prevalence of architecture where other cities have been leveled. All just by taking a goofball easter egg and putting just the tiniest amount of thought into it.

>>15584263

>>15584295

Just shut the fuck up and piss off. You'll keep mincing words and trying to derail like you and your kind always do.

>>15584275

And I give a flying fuck about Bethesda's butchery of canon and general inability to grasp what Fallout is about, let alone write a compelling and consistent narrative why?

>>15584299

To be fair any human with a shred of morals would wish to see Washington cleansed in nuclear flames.

>>15584301

>They already put a ton of Chinese remnants in the DC Area - because remember that one Jap from WWII who raided villages in Borneo or something for 40 years because nobody told him the war was over

Meanwhile in FO2 you have Chinese realizing, just like everyone else, that the war is over, the world is fucked, and if they don't try to do something they're all dead.

>the persistent radiation

That's explained in the two original FO games though. The reason that so much radiation is still around is that the nukes both side use are "dirty" and don't burn enough radioactive material upon detonation.

>>15584263

>aside from this blatant antiwhite shit, what's so antiwhite about it?

>>>/out/

>>15584335

>And I give a flying fuck about Bethesda's butchery of canon and general inability to grasp what Fallout is about, let alone write a compelling and consistent narrative why?

Unless you buy the IP, it's all Fallout's gonna get. Just thick streams of AIDS-ridden cum.

>>15584154

>the BoS did move on and formed a militarised society

No they didn't they took General Maxon larping knight code that he came up DURING the war and applied right after and they rolled with it for 200 years.

And in 200 years despite being the only group with wide access to medical technology and total security they have completely failed to thrive because their ideology is completely retarded and discourage any form of population growth past the remnants of what the system of VIP military bunkers they have can sustain 100% without going outside. The only thing they do with their medical tech is quite obviously contraception, as they only "make" initiates to compensate for loss and planned death.

Again you have to remember than in BI Fallout 200 years have past (while in Bethesda Fallout the bombs fell 10 years ago… they didn't in the lore but everything is designed as if), a long fucking time has past entire countries have risen from the ashes and ALL the people of the wasteland are vault dwellers descendants (yes, even the ghouls, tribals and bandits), because most vaults opened after a couple of decades.

Sure some places still glow in the dark but most of the surface is perfectly habitable.

Again the bad BoS ending of fallout is literally what you think the BoS is but really isn't.

The sudden change in leadership cause the younger generation to step up (presumably the guys from fallout tactics) and the BoS grow in size in a generation and becomes completely unstoppable creating "a dark age that could last a thousand year" (direct Nazi Germany reference).

But it's not what the BoS are in cannon. In cannon they're a bunch of larpers in power armor.

>>15584442

>200 years

Except F1 started 84 years AFTER the bombs fell.

BETHESDA Fallout is 200 years after the bombs fell (f3) and STILL manages to shit the bed

Fallout 1

>84 years after bombs fell

>Shady Sands is built out of actual houses

Fallout 3

>200 years and people are still living in ramshackle huts in a town where the structures themselves shouldn't feasibly be standing, much less multi leveled.

>>15584442

>while in Bethesda Fallout the bombs fell 10 years ago

Not even then. Within a single year Hiroshima for example was already rebuilding and vegetation was already popping back up. You could make the argument that the bombs in Fallout had a bigger payload and there were more of them but that just makes the abundance of scrap tin roofing and cinder blocks, that nobody uses by the way, even more retarded.

>>15584473

Wasn't the dearth of vegetation accounted to the FEV inundation?

>>15584483

If it was then they just completely ignored that hand wave later.

>>15584351

>He can't read >>15584295

>>15584483

Wasn't a lot of the mutations of a lot of enemies due to FEV, too? You, like radscorpions, bloatflies, radroaches, etc.?

>>15584506

*You know, like radscorpions, bloatflies, radroaches, etc.?

polite sage

>>15584506

I think radscorpions were the only exception, the rest was FEV or, like deathclaws, engineering.

>>15582754

This is why Doom Eternal will save Bethesda.

>>15584459

Fallout 4

>210 years and people take refuge in an ancient baseball stadium, making shanties out of rusted sheet metal and throwing their garbage out in the street like backwards, degenerate barbarians.

Evidently, Bethesda considers Americans to be as smart as Equatorial Guineans.

>>15581695

So the murderer not only gets a hard time trying to kill the other player with slap-in-the-face damage (unless the other player *willingly* accepts the duel), but if he (gets) to kill him, he gets punished, a bounty on his head and people can track him down just because of one "toxic " misdeavor? how can you ruin a simple mechanic so goddamn much?

>>15584614

In the far future, all that is left are Bethesda fans.

To be fair Fallout 76 is more poorly written than Fallout: Equestria

>>15581904

>literally impossible

That's not what 'literally' means you fucking moron. If you want to talk like a retard stay on twitter where you belong.

>>15584335

>That's explained in the two original FO games though. The reason that so much radiation is still around is that the nukes both side use are "dirty" and don't burn enough radioactive material upon detonation.

That's something that probably needs to be retconned, because nukes don't work like that. Dirty or otherwise. You'd only have a few years where that radioactive dust would be in large enough concentrations to be dangerous, and even then most of that would be in small patches along river beds (where it's insulated by the water anyhow) or in pockets of geography where the wind deposits frequently. This is especially true if the bombs were devastating enough to cause the oceans to boil - they'd naturally create the iconic black rain, but that much extra moisture in the air due to the evaporation would have created torrential downpours that would have significantly altered the landscape by creating massive mudslides out of the debris and ash.

That whole part of the Fallout lore makes zero sense, and doesn't really impact the story lore too or too heavily much until you start getting out of California and Nevada - which is already largely fucking desert and scrub land even before global warming and nuclear armageddon. Tactics and Bethesda's Fallouts brought that "Mad Max" wasteland to the Midwest and to the East Coast - and those games are probably best considered either non-canon or semi-canon by anyone who actually gives a shit about Fallout lore.

>>15584459

The real fantasy in Fallout is the fact that Shady Sands exists at all, given the vault it came from was a multiculti, boiling pot shithole.

Fucking Pete

>>15584713

They could just say that each and every nuclear plant was a primary target and smoldering, ruined reactors keep irradiating the world.

>>15584614

Well they are retarded goblins tbh

>>15584732

To be fair, the other 3 groups out of that vault became violent murderous raider gangs, and up until the Vault Dweller helped Shady Sands out they were probably the smallest and weakest of all the groups. That's at least a 3/4 chance of multiculti failing miserably and leading to tribal raider gangs, and even the 1/4 group that doesn't devolve into complete savages is doomed to fail without a white male's guidance. And then ends up making California 2.0 anyway.

>>15584442

>in Bethesda Fallout the bombs fell 10 years ago

And then Bethesda finally addresses this complaint by making a game set 25 years after the bombs dropped, closer to the apocalypse than any other game in the series. And your first sight out of the vault is a beautiful, lush, vibrant forest, with plenty of vegetation and life all around you, the most pristine and natural looking environment we've seen in this series. It's amazing how they still managed to somehow fuck it all up.

>>15585684

This is the future of modding. Exclusively controlled by the publisher and monetized. Skyrim 2 will get the same treatment. Nexus is getting the nuke.

>>15585684

Everybody and their mother's has been saying that here since the game was announced.

And if you build a mod that's compatible with the game files like FO4 the engine the game is based off of before the game is out, it's piracy.

-t hines

>>15582592

The fuck are "Tankies"

>>15585817

stalinists

>>15581236

>as he posts tranny propaganda

>>15583147

>I actually agree with this and I don't even hate Todd. I think he's full of it but mostly harmless in his own bullshit.

As do I, but seriously guys, stop spamming picture of me all over the board like a bunch of autistic manchildren and try to stay on topic for once.

>>15585833

>>15585834

sorry, ill delete my post

Fallout was never good.

>>15585684

>no modifying of a gamebryo engine game

Wait, what do they mean by this? Do they mean no 'official' modification support, cause they already said there are private servers so unless they've done something with the gamebryo there is no way they could possibly stop people from doing what they've already been doing.

>>15585684

>citing stolen content and adult mods

fuck, there goes my plan of being a vagrant rapist

>>15585880

You have to start the game through their platform and any unsolicited mods will get you banned.

>>15585887

Since it's fucking Gamebryo and people have known everything about the engine since 2003, I'm sure someone will manage to make private servers for this shit.

>>15585891

They could leave out some networking functionality from the clients and private server software that only gets enabled through signing on to the bethesda launcher. Which would also mean should bethesda shut down their servers, all private servers die with it. You don't own nothing! Buy the sequel if you want to keep playing!

>>15585912

I meant WoW-style private servers, where someone nigger rigs the game to run their own authentication/login server and goes from there. I'm assuming that the actual multiplayer is p2p since Bethesda is way too fucking lazy and shameless to actually run dedicated servers for that.

You know what? Considering Fallout 76 is going to be exclusive to Bethesda's launch platform and how diminished in actual content it will be, it looks more like another attempt to lure and bind people to their exclusive platform. Same shit they did with Skyrim special edition. Only purpose was to bind people to the creator store. They want exclusive control over their players and games, both to exploit them unhindered by Steam policies and to avoid paying steam their share.

Greed. Sham. Manipulation. Control.

I think I'll just put Bethesda (and Zenimax as a whole) on my blacklist and call it done.

>>15585942

>I think I'll just put Bethesda (and Zenimax as a whole) on my blacklist and call it done.

Why didn't you do this 12 years ago? Are you some kind of idiot?

>>15581695

>lower your health to almost nothing

>annoy someone enough to shoot you

>party members kill the newly branded murderer for double XP

Another fuck up masterpiece brought to you by Bethesda.

>>15581001

Honestly, the very first mistake Bethesda did when acquiring Fallout was not rebooting the franchise(or at least going back in timeline).

>>15585942

<if it's not on my precious (((steam))) service the devs are obviously greedy shameless manipulative control freaks

steamniggers everyone

The atomic bomb that detonated over Hiroshima used Uranium-235, while the Nagasaki bomb had Plutonium-239. The half-life of U-235 is 700 million years, while that of Pu-239 is 24,000 years. In other words, once on the ground, they will be there for a very long time

>>15586150

And U-238 and Pu-239 are not that radioactive, it's the products of fission that have a much shorter half-life that produce the dangerous radioactive fallout,

>>15586150

>The half-life of U-235 is 700 million years, while that of Pu-239 is 24,000 years

You forget that the damn thing expelled much of their energy into explosive force. Nagasaki and Hiroshima barely has any rads left even on ground zero. It's a nuclear bomb not a nuclear plant meltdown. Meltdowns take longer to dissipate because nuclear plants are designed to siphon off that energy slowly.

>>15586196

Plutonium is extremely toxic and body has no way of getting rid of it.

Uranium can be secreted out

>>15586205

Nukes convert only few % of fuel to explosive force, everything else gets scattered.

Nuclear plants have like 200 tons of uranium in them.

>>15586150

>>15586205

The reaction of Uranium is dependent on the composition of U-235 and U-238 in the material. Reactors do not use Uranium with the same ratio as a Nuclear Bomb, even the stuff which requires an amount higher then 5%.

>>15585726

No, it's the past. Gabe got away with it because he forced everyone to get Steam anyway, Bethesda doesn't get this option because he doesn't have an existing userbase to farm, at least not one that doesn't run into issues with Microsoft.

Even from a more cynical angle it won't work. Paid mods have been around in general for a while now, and it's at the point where most people cannot make a living off it especially as Steam tries cut down on gambling while being flooded with asset flips. Only a few people can make money if they can afford to get their work sponsored/used by pro players/popular streamers that'll drive up the item price, but this is rare and most don't do it. Since Bethesda's userbase is both smaller and doesn't have any pro players or popular streamers, they can't offer them a better deal. Also since Beth would have to redo licensing for everything when the next Xbox comes out, this just means more headaches for content creators.

It just falls flat on all angles, which should be expected. Bethesda does best when they make single player wrpgs with free mod tools and completely free mods, even if those games are objectively lackluster. They can't be successful making an MP loot shooter with curated paid mods because they have no experience doing it, their players don't want it and existing modders won't bother.

>>15581029

This. The guy's a moron.

>>15586260

Reported for toxic behavior.

>>15584506

Yup. Fallout 2 had as its plot that its antagonists were a group wishing to remove FEV from the Earth's biosphere before it would make the Earth completely unlivable for humanity.

>>15586801

Nah. According to the lead SJW dev they were just being meanies for the hell of it and that's why you can't side with them. Avellone got actually super butthurt about people liking enclave because he wants you to side with muh poor mutts. Note how enclave is nearly all white men whereas everyone else is some sort of mixed race. Avellone is a cuck and fallout has always been leftist trash

>>15586067

Unironically this. They should've had their own vision of the game in my opinion. I think such a game WILL be badly received by the blind fanboys though, even more so than FO3.

Anyway, there was an interview from around January this year with Todd where he said that FO3 began in the early 2000's with a small project nicknamed "Apocalypse Road". The game was supposed to be inspired by the Fallout and Wasteland series instead of an adaptation of them. However, the production of the game was halted by Morrowind. After Morrowind was completed, Zenimax saw the Fallout inspired mini-project Todd started and decided to buy the rights for Fallout franchise.

Maybe they should've been better off creating Apocalypse Road than Fallout. Barely anyone knew about Fallout anyway. FO was nothing but an obscure dying franchise, it wasn't even one of the greatest CRPGs ever, and all Bethout did was bringing all the rabid fanboys out of the woodwork. Falloutfags are cancerous tbh. I'm not hating or defending bethout or any fallout game for that matter, but I can't stand seeing the autism and drama falloutfags make over their mediocre lore. They truly rival kojimafags and soulsniggers.

>>15586871

>but I can't stand seeing the autism and drama falloutfags make over their mediocre lore

Kill yourself faggot. People have a full right to be mad about having things established be buttfucked for no reason because the lore of such CRPG is practically their backbone.

>>15586903

I'm not even that interested in Fallout, there is only one 1 fallout game I like. Find a better argument instead of excusing Bethesda.

>>15586881

Your new vegas faction memes are like unironic sonic OC's, just saying.

>>15581316

can confirm, about 4-5 years ago normgroids were hyped up about skyrim

one of them even was a double-digit IQ wigger

>>15586903

>Making excuses for companies fucking up while calling others cucks

wew

>>15583158

Don't forget making them run off Fusion Cores at the same rate a Big Block Luxobarge from the 70's would gas; when T51 runs off Microfusion and the Enclave Power Armor (which Bethesda decided was Pre-war instead of post war in Fo4) has a fucking reactor on it's back.

I forget where I read it before, but even the Prototypes that had energy management issues had an expected 500 years before the cell would need replacing, later ones fixed it so it was basiclly a non-issue.

>>15585684

>citing stolen content and adult mods

>You_are_a_Pirate.webm

>>15586127

Not to defend steam, but Creation Club is absolutely worse then steam. At least the workshop is free (as far as I know for the majority)

>>15586871

>>15586903

I actually avoided Fallout and Fallout 2 when I was in highschool because I had a friend who was a diehard Fallout fan and I found his obsession with the game annoying. Especially since he'd always tell me that whatever I was playing was shit compared with Fallout. The first time I played through those games wasn't until 2009 after I had just finished playing Fallout 3. Holy shit is Fallout 3 a lump of pure shit compared with the original games. How can you not expect the original fans to get mad? Zenimax bought a franchise when it was easy to buy just so they could shit all over it and try to rake in a few more sales with brand recognition. Even though they already had the Bethesda brand recognition. Also, how can you compare the original Fallout games with games like MGS and Darksouls? I don't see how a person can handwave legitimate concerns from fans of a decent cRPG series and put them on the same level as the cancerous console shit that actually did degrade the industry. Unless, of course, that person is an active part of the cancer.

>>15587297

We've gone past the "fuck you give me money" phase a long time ago and are squarely in the "fuck you just fuck you" phase now.

>>15587251

I know and I asking how can somebody be such a complete disingenuous piece of shit as to make such a comparison. Especially if he's doing it for free.

>/pol/ tier reading comprehension

But I think you just showed me exactly the kind of piece of shit with that remark.

>>15581001

>even in franchises that we created like the Elder Scrolls

>Let's just take a franchise with one of the most unique lore in crpg history and just fuck it up

Fuck you Pete Hines.

>>15587297

There's this idea in corporate management that you can rewrite history at will and simply get new customers whenever you want by rebranding/remodeling your core product around whatever you want. Since managers do not expect fans to stick around longer than 10 years, they plan on rebooting everything every decade to be with the times and appeal to the youngest people plausible.

Make no mistake about what this is all about: Bethesda wants teenage boys aged 13-23 playing their games. All game companies do. This group of people is uniquely stupid due to their age and has multiple sources of income (an allowance, their parents, eventually a job) to profit from. Older fans who can remember Fo1 let alone enjoyed it are at best dead weight and at worst noise that can dampen enthusiasm for the newest product.

Of course, this whole thing breaks down because zoomers don't even bother with consoles or PCs anymore, they all use phones. And they don't even want loot shooters anymore because of fortnite. Bethesda has been uniquely bad at adapting, which is why their attempt at this is so laughable. Fallout 76 would have been GOTY 2013 if it was a day one Xbone launch title, but instead Beth is releasing it five years later when people are just starting to talk about new consoles.

>>15584459

>Except F1 started 84 years AFTER the bombs fell.

Oh yeah right.

But that makes even more sense. In Fallout 1 the BoS is still a force to be reckoned with because it's closer to the apocalypse, while in Fallout 2 the world has gone on without them. They're still a handful of roaming knights when the wasteland has now entire cities…

2066 US/China war.

2077 Apocalypse.

2090 First vaults starts opening.

2161 Fallout 1 begins

2174 Fallout 1 ends.

2197 Fallout Tactics begins.

2241 Fallout 2 begins

2242 Fallout 2 ends.

2246+ NCR/BoS war starts (still ongoing by NV).

2281 Fallout New Vegas begin.

2277 Fallout 3 begins.

2287 Fallout 4 begins.

>>15583938

Except fallout 4 was a gigantic mess that no way recouped their marketing budget.

Bioshock infinite had 300 million for its marketing budget, 3x what it cost to develop the game, and because of that went tits up regardless of sales.

Learn how the industry works and you will find that the future is looking bright.

>>15588317

inb4 meme spacing, I didn't expand my reply window so sentences seem a lot longer then they actually are.

>>15588317

>Except fallout 4 was a gigantic mess that no way recouped their marketing budget.

Really? I want proofs for that.

>>15588330

You would think a company which has public stocks would release net loss regarding one of their products.

You don't learn anything about the financial success or ruin until it comes out at the end.

Reason why the Wii U was considered competitive until its production ended, which nintendo fags still thought was speculation even after the production stopped.

>>15587919

Interesting how they will fuck all of this up with 76

>>15588372

No matter where you look; you will only see endless jewery.

>>15587953

Even in the Mojave Desert?

>>15585684

https://www.moddb.com/news/fallout-76-mod-support-will-come-at-least-one-year-after-launch

>>15588775

This way the bobby pin can fit your quirky cross-dressing super mutant lol

Why do they have such a derogatory attitude towards the original games? I can understand (even if I hate it) the argument that they need to cater to the modern retard audience, but why actively shit talk the classics?

>>15588799

They want to make a divide in the fan base to bait them into arguing with each other instead of rallying up and telling Bethesda to go fuck themselves. It sucks how often it works too.

>>15588806

I doubt that, considering the tards far outweigh anyone who cares about oldschool crpgs in numbers.

My only guess is that they are hoping the 5% of the audience that likes the old games will abandon them to play their newest abortion.

>>15588806

Divide the fanbase? You mean the idiots spending money on Fallout 76? Let them eat each other.

>>15581695

jesus what is even the point of this game

>>15588810

It doesn't matter if they genuinely care about the old games. There's still a contingent of people who pretend to care for hipster points and they'll take the time to argue with people who outright hate the older games leading to nothing but more white noise and muddied waters.

>>15588798

>This way the bobby pin can fit your quirky cross-dressing super mutant lol

The quirky cross-dressing super mutant was one of the best side-characters in New Vegas.

>>15582421

One of the saltiest posts I've read in a while.

>>15588907

Never played anything that FO1, 2, and NV. 10 years on my HD and still hand-modding everything.

Feels good men.

>>15581695

>dat hit feedback

its like watching 2 year olds shoot each other with bb guns. The player walks up to someone, point blank headshots, BAP BAP BAP, Nothing happens.

>>15581248

House can be quickly and quietly iced within a moment of entering his pad, he's unnecessary.

>>15581001

>>15581035

they need to start making new factions or something they just rely on the same old tropes without often adding anything meaningful to the story as a whole, like 3 atleast had good exploration and interesting quests, 4 had the better faction ideas ripped from new vegas but other then that 4 was complete shit exploring in that game felt soulless because most of the locations have almost no backstory and the game became obsessed with making me collect garbage for its crafting system and there was one good side quest that involved sum robots on a boat but a rest from all i can remember seemed to just be go here and shoot the dudes.

>>15582062

>or how the Capital Wasteland looked like it was fresh from the nukes 200+ years.

Oh that one is easy. Ever been to the east coast? They’re all lazy niggers who expect the government to do everything.

>>15588833

you mean Tabitha wasn’t a female before the FEV?

>>15581035

By the way, is there a comprehensible modding guide for New Vegas with just the essential mods instead of those TOP 5 2015 4K TEXTURE MODS AND ENB lists?

>>15588967

I bet if you were a writer and tried to make a new faction that wasn't some meme shit on the side you would be cracked over the head with a menorah by one of the executives.

>>15588973

no. all victims of FEV turn into male super mutants and cant reproduce.

>>15588978

Here's a few good mods since I don't know of any essential modding guides for anything that doesn't "make the gayme look pwetty":

Weapon Mods Extended

Weapons of the New Millenia

Willow Companion

Weapon and Ammo checking its a thing where you can check the exact number of your weapon's condition as well as a nice smooth animation of your character looking at the weapon

New Vegas Bounties

Project Nevada and Solid Project go well together

Bloody Mess for Deathclaws and Friends makes deathclaws and tunnelers gore your character instead of your character just limply falling over

Tag Skills Improved makes tag skills give you more points. the courier has been around the block, so it makes sense he wouldn't be slightly less useless with some skills than others, and actually have some familiarity with the skills you tag.

Digital Nightmare Music Mod

>>15588890

The Vault Boy is literally the entirety of Bethesda Fallout, he's all there is to it, a cartoon mascot. Sad thing is that people eat that shit up.

>>15589029

Thanks

>>15588973

One of the devs said that Tabitha actually was a female pre-mutation (her name was Bridget). Granted he said it on SomethingAwful so take it with some salt

>>15588978

There are tons of modding guides, look up Gopher. It's an older seires but if you just follow the one that improves stability then grab whatever tickles your fancy you'll have a good time. I modded my game to the absolute limit before it will CTD. It will only want to run for 30 minutes at a time before it chuggs to death.

But playing a melee build in a game I set up to favor guns has been something. I'm actually using chems just to make it through legion ambushes instead of tanking it regularly and healing after.

I kinda wanna beat my current playthough, deactivae most of the mods and only put back some of the gameplay and flavor mods so I can maybe enjoy the game without it shitting itself

>>15582271

>Who is this "Todd" fellow you speak of?

Todd howard is the face of fallout and skyrim, he is a talent-less hack and a salesman of games which year after year show diminishing returns, to both zenimax and the game player's experience.

>>15589131

Friendly reminder Todd himself has practically admitted Skyrim was a fluke that only did as well as it did because it coincided with Game of Thrones getting big.

>>15589146

>>15589156

>open command line

>run game without using the Windows Start Button™

>fined a billion dollars by the FTC and sentenced to 10 lifetime sentences in gitmo

>>15589156

>>15589163

Funny thing is, his tweet is from april 2016, Fallout 4 was launched about 6 months earlier and they already had fully functional mods of about everything.

>>15589185

You can guess the pre-FEV race?

>>15589197

>70

wew, too bad vampiric jews live till 98

>>15589192

what you're seeing is the cult of personality in action. Todd has built a cult around him where he is basically untouchable. The only way you fix shit is if Todd makes a massive mistake. Here's hoping Fallout 76 is that mistake.

>>15589260

Fallout 76 is not going to be blamed on Todd. They'll spin this as Pete's fault and have Starwhatever be some manufactured redemption.

>>15589308

They need to stay because the sooner Bethesda dies the better. I'm sick and tired of waiting for any of these shit companies to ever improve.

>>15589308

Is that the kid from One Punch man?

>>15589328

Too bad because they will never die, no matter how much money they lose.

>>15582298

>Sounds like Trumps Brother is asserting control over the company, so that means their anti white bullshit will be coming to an end as well

Delusional post anon

man i just gotta say im not to excited how there doing the repair mechanic/crafting, it just seems like an excuse to make me collect junk and u know whats sad 3 some how managed to do it better it still had the crafting with a few specific items but what u did primarily with the junk was sell it which fyi ment you could then buy useful shit, and the repair mechanic in 3 wasnt perfect it atleast seemed more natural then having to collect specific junk as my reward for exploring

>>15581315

>>15581303

>>15581289

>>15581551

>>15582025

>>15582016

And the worst part is, it gets more and more difficult to find the original lore that isn't tainted or influenced by retcons

>>15582092

Got any examples? My normalfag friends are running the usual hype train bullshit.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1007348816989868032

i cant wait to get my quests from scraps of paper…… why did they need to remove all human npc's again also im guessing theres going to be even less towns now u know cuz there are no npc people, this is even going to have shittier quests then 4 isnt it

>>15588918

>>15588833

Tabitha is a woman RETARDES !

>>15589365

>being intentionally vague so you can't get called out for being a faggot

I know this is what you're doing, because I do it myself all the time.

>>15590774

Toddposters please leave.

>>15588564

>Interesting how they will fuck all of this up with 76

Well we already know, it takes place in 2102 so well before Fallout, almost a century before the BoS (which is solely the remains of the US army stationed on the west coast and not even all of it, as gunrunners and boomers are also descendant of remnants of the US army/air force) started shipping of people east…