3633c7 No.15580914
a8ee47 No.15580919
Determinable on a case by case scenario.
With no concern for sentimentality and a few lightgun (including R.O.B. games) emulation.
f8a610 No.15580938
>>15580913
Here is another one for the filter pile.
a8ee47 No.15580953
>>15580913
You know, every time I see this image, it boggles my mind that people spent so much time on smoothing filters instead of trying to recreate the conditions that dithering in sprites was designed for.
55c454 No.15580962
>>15580953
I know some filters have started coming out for some games to make them look more like CRT filtering options, but it doesn't always work with HD screens. I mean a lot of these games aren't meant for HD screens
a8ee47 No.15580973
>>15580962
Some CRT emulators work alright in 4k, the issue is you do kind of half to double your resolution and have a pretty high PPI for it.
3e5e98 No.15580990
>>15580944
Impressive, very nice.
b966ce No.15581002
Emulators, since I don't have to get up to change games and can have a comfy custom launcher menu.
And no filters, not even bilinear filtering.
Pixel perfect ratios with optional marquees.
>>15580953
>dithering
pic related
is there a suitable reaction image that includes dithering? those old anime games with the 80s/early 90s aesthetic and dithering still gets me rock hard
7be473 No.15581093
Roms, carts, floppy disk images and all. Nintendo has become nothing more than a thief, rogue and scumbag of a company, and by right of conquest I now collect nintendo vidya in the name of human culture preservation.
a8ee47 No.15581107
>>15581083
You know, I wanna say those are kids.
But goddamn I've known 22 year olds throw a 2 year long tantrum over a 14 year old calling one of them a "meanie"
74daef No.15581112
>>15581107
22 year old are sadly still children thanks to the world we live in.
a8ee47 No.15581132
>>15581112
I'd be inclined to believe you, but they know better and do it anyway.
366217 No.15581150
>>15581083
lul. I don't really get either side of the issue. Emulation sucks balls, its inaccurate and oftentimes frustrating. OG hardware will always be far superior. On the other hand, complaining about people doing it makes one look like a retard as well.
09c3c0 No.15581169
a8ee47 No.15581172
>>15581147
See a lot of kids act like complete shitheads because they aren't aware that they are in fact, being complete shitheads, or understand that it is in fact, bad to be a complete shit head, it's a destructively innocent nature. The emotionally incontinent "children" I'm talking about are fully aware of what they are doing as being bad but choose to do it anyway, which does not grant them the benefit of the doubt.
a2cebd No.15581213
>>15580899
Neither? Nintendo games are rehashed garbage.
What about flashcarts?
85be5c No.15581215
>>15580938
that last one looks kinda good, would like to see it running in real time.
997582 No.15581222
>>15581215
Read what it says under the sprites, idiot.
a2cebd No.15581227
>>15581194
>NPC
Anon is right though.
Emulation is garbage, original hardware is superior and anyone who argues the ladder is a fucking moron. Go hate on Fortnite for no other reason besides it's popular and people have fun playing it.
85be5c No.15581295
>>15581222
I did, and I'd still like to see it running in real time.
b46d3b No.15581334
>>15581286
>>15581083
>nuwojaks
2fe361 No.15581390
>>15581083
Look at it this way: at least they're not trying to censor the emulator being spread around or even developed (at least from what the image shows).
Freedom of speech means the devs have the right to make the emulator as much as the cuckfucks have the right to shit on it for being dumb corporate whores, as long as they don't do anything to actually act on their anger to censor it.
4ac2b8 No.15581396
>>15581227
Black and white fallacy, hardware and emulation both have advantages and disadvantages. For games that do work emulation is far superior to original hardware but obviously there will always be that one game that doesn't. On the other hand, hardware is better if you want the original experience but will always be less convenient that simply firing up ROMs on your computer
2fe361 No.15581403
>>15581194
>You sound like an NPC
Reported
2fe361 No.15581414
>>15581396
>Black and white fallacy,
I don't think he even did that. He just made a baseless claim with a bunch of non-sequiturs and personal attacks.
b54d6c No.15581463
>>15581222
>its hand drawn, so you cant wish to see it animated
youre a goddamn moron
0cadb9 No.15581466
>>15580899
Both, as there are some systems that just aren't emulated well enough yet to be worth bothering with (N64, Xbox, PS2).
>>15580938
Here's more for the filter pile :^)
aecf87 No.15581492
>>15581472
It's cropped from some tweet NoA made talking about some Japanese down syndrome Junkrat in some weeb game series nobody cares about.
554b6e No.15581520
>>15581466
These are the types of filters that are pretty passable though. I don't use 'em, but they're not mangling the fucking image into a formless blob, so it doesn't piss me off.
Although in Super Contra's case, holy shit does it look terrible without a filter.
f8a610 No.15581525
>>15581215
>>15581295
That's the point, a sprite artist was insulted enough that a bunch of people that hate pixelation when they enlarge a window screen to a size not meant for a PC proceeded to say that's how it's supposed to be all along.
It's part of his depressed rant about pixel art essentially being a worthless pursuit for vidya because of how completely niche it is.
Those filters are one of those reasons.
b5af52 No.15581568
>>15581334
That image is photoshopped but honestly it's probably not far off.
e1b44b No.15581579
>>15581520
Which one is supposed to be the unfiltered/bad one? I like both of them fine enough.
85be5c No.15581589
>>15581466
the first and third pics are incorrectly scaled so the effect looks off/bad in the images you posted. the second one looks nice though.
554b6e No.15581594
>>15581579
>Which one is supposed to be the unfiltered one?
The one on the left Jesus Chrust. Are you on a phone or something?
0cadb9 No.15581599
>>15581589
>incorrectly scaled
wdhmbt?
b5af52 No.15581602
>>15581520
Do you really need a CRT filter, though? Can't you just apply a basic blur and contrast filter like I did here to get a similar effect?
554b6e No.15581609
>>15581602
It looks all blobby and, and the letters look terrible now.
2aa5c1 No.15581619
>>15581609
>It looks all blobby
Anon it looks the same as the CRT one, just without the scan lines
That's because half of what CRT screens do is blur the pixels
554b6e No.15581627
>>15581619
I don't know what it is with your eyes, but in my genuine, honest opinion, it looks 10x worse than BOTH the unfiltered and the CRT version.
56b0f6 No.15581652
>>15580899
I got one for you in that regard, Wild Guns, emulated or cart?
346671 No.15581656
>>15581627
He went a bit overboard on the blurring, but the what he did is the essence of what CRT screens do.
554b6e No.15581665
>>15581525
Oh shit, I remember this article.
>I hope it’s clear from this image that I love pixel art. Auro was a love letter to the amazing stuff Nintendo, Capcom, Konami, and SNK produced in the 90s. That art was probably the primary reason I got into this field in the first place. It’s a beautiful form, and some of my favorite pixel artwork is being made today.
>But normalfags don't like it so I'm not gonna do pixelart in any of my future games
Not that I think pixel art I necessarily better than whatever he'll be doing from now on, but it's sad to see him renounce something he loves seemingly mainly because other people didn't like it.
Article:
http://archive.is/8KBjH
0cadb9 No.15581667
>>15581652
Probably neither, just pirate the remaster.
85be5c No.15581673
>>15581619
>half of what CRT screens do is blur the pixels
thats not how a crt works.
36d2d0 No.15581678
I only emulate if I can't acquire the desired old game within reasonable price (I'm not shelling out over 200€ for PS1 copy of Castlevania: SoTN for example)
56b0f6 No.15581682
>>15581667
Still, given only those two options and going by the OP?
0cadb9 No.15581689
>>15581682
If you already have an snes, a copy of wild guns (or a flash cart), a super scope, and a CRT, that.
If not, retroarch + snes9x + wiimote should be adequate.
e4dd1f No.15581707
>>15581694
>>15581083
I don't even care about Nintendo's shitty games, but I'm going to pirate all the roms and make sure to spread them on at least a couple of sites.
f8a610 No.15581710
>>15581520
>>15581602
That can only be considered fine if you're a phonefag (you faggot) or looking at a thumbnail. Once it's enlarged though the blurry image loses all it's depth in shading and the the straight bar on the nose still persists. In fact the more I look at it the more it bugs me.
>>15581656
The blur of a CRT is caused by a combination of that unique smoothness and an incidental bloom like effect, it's really subtle too you'd only really notice when a large black space and colored space border each other.
554b6e No.15581716
>>15581656
>the essence of what CRT screens do
I mean, if you're speaking very broadly, yeah the image is blurrier, but that's oversimplifying things to a retarded degree. Color bleeding and other effects are not the same as just slapping on some gaussian blur or whatever.
0cadb9 No.15581721
>>15581716
Unblended meme waterfalls are canon.
c30abf No.15581740
>>15581721
>They were never supposed to be blended
Okay, so then why didn't they just make the bars further apart in the Genesis version so that they wouldn't get blended? Doesn't seem like a difficult change to make.
bb03f8 No.15581751
>>15580899
Emulating the roms on my Wii and play them with a GameCube controller.
0cadb9 No.15581754
>>15581740
The world may never know :^)
5c45bc No.15581951
>Nintendo downloads off rom site and sells it back to its retard fanbase
>wew
000000 No.15582195
>>15580899
Always pirate. Never buy.
All companies are your enemies.
And it is always ok to steal from corporations and jews.
Piracy is eternal and it will always deliver at some point.
91eb42 No.15582208
>>15580913
exblain all these memefilters to me. The only ones I sort of understand are these from the first category, which make it look like on some shit TV
32b16c No.15582225
>>15581525
http://www.dinofarmgames.com/a-pixel-artist-renounces-pixel-art/
The pixel tax is a sad thing. And most "artists" trying to imitate "8-bit" don't even know how it worked.
ab9268 No.15582258
>>15581721
You are meant to play Sonic Mania on a CRT/with a filter on, dumbass.
ab9268 No.15582357
>>15580938
>that 32 bit colored hand drawn yoshi
It feels like something out of a Worms 2 / Armageddon / World Party, not like it's a bad thing of course, I like that style.
c9e953 No.15582364
>>15582208
Meant to cover up the flaws of lcd displays but does a poor job of it. Classic games will never look right.
6b92c8 No.15582449
>>15581194
>>15581286
>>15581083
>>15581694
229868 No.15582730
>>15581682
>the rageaholic
gay
e1b44b No.15582761
>>15581594
They both look good. I didn't know if the left was the filtered one that removed the colors or if the right one was the filtered one that added colors.
366217 No.15582768
>>15582195
Go back to leftypol
8f87c6 No.15582782
>>15582768
>leftypol calling out the Jew
Top opo
366217 No.15582791
>>15582782
>picking out the one non leftypol word in a sea of cuck shit that is that post
e1b44b No.15582795
>>15581594
Forgot to answer your question, I'm on a laptop, not a filthy phoneposter.
0ff6f3 No.15582803
>>15580899
Emus. I don't have enough space for multiple consoles and games
>>15580944
>>15581222
>>15581466
Impressive. Very nice.
>>15581721
Kega is the only emulator that seems emulate the Genesis' color bleed without trying to slather on a bunch of NTSC video noise and memeline over the image.
8f87c6 No.15582805
>>15582791
I'm just saying, that's enough to warrant a ban over there. Having mistrust of companies is honestly a pretty sound move.
f8a610 No.15585681
>>15582208
>exblain all these memefilters to me.
Basically there is a set of filters which don't do anything besides removing the blockiness of pixel art. The idea is to make it look like a drawing but that's the end result.
c9e953 No.15585703
I don't think a single person in this thread was old enough to be alive when these systems were relevant and were all played on CRTs.
bee235 No.15585730
>>15580944
Boy, that game was good for some reason
a1883f No.15585773
what crt do i buy and where
0d1048 No.15585804
>>15581172
>See a lot of kids act like complete shitheads because they aren't aware that they are in fact, being complete shitheads, or understand that it is in fact, bad to be a complete shit head, it's a destructively innocent nature.
Maybe if you're talking children under seven.
a8ee47 No.15585884
>>15585804
It kind of depends on how many children are in the family, single childs can hold onto that behavior into mid teens because of coddling and the lack of a familial counterparts.
4fb2eb No.15585985
>>15585703
Video games are fucking dead and flies are buzzing over the corpse.
a8ee47 No.15585992
>>15585703
Man would it be convenient for you if it weren't for the case that anyone could call you on your shit.
>Not having a second GPU with SVideo out
c9e953 No.15585998
>>15585992
>I'll show you by emulating the games and outputting them in 480i
lol
a8ee47 No.15585999
>>15585998
Still higher than native res, and frequently with better framerates.
c9e953 No.15586002
>>15585999
>Still higher than native res
that's the problem wiz kid
a8ee47 No.15586007
>>15586002
>implying there's an issue with playing a game at the same aspect ratio at a higher resolution
c9e953 No.15586011
>15586007
I'm not going to talk with a retard who has no idea what he's talking about
a8ee47 No.15586020
>>15586011
>implying there's a problem with playing snes games in 512x448
554b6e No.15586197
>>15582761
>They both look good
No, I'm more surprised you didn't know which one was unfiltered, not because which one you preferred, but since only one has raw pixels, and the the other one is clearly blurred and has scanlines. It should be really obvious if you're seeing the whole image on a monitor.
>>15582795
>Forgot to answer your question, I'm on a laptop
Now I'm even more confused. You did open the whole image and not just look at the thumbnail, right?
13c483 No.15586209
>>15586197
>You did open the whole image and not just look at the thumbnail, right?
I'm more thinking anon needs glasses, he couldn't be that retarded right?
e3f949 No.15586243
Do bootleg multi-carts from China count?
1ddcb8 No.15586299
Emulators if you just want to play a fucking game, modded console/flash carts for authenticity or as gifts to your friends/siblings who are too retarded to pirate.
f8a610 No.15586311
>>15585703
>>15585998
I didn't see a flatscreen screen monitor or TV in my home until the mid-late 2000's because it was too expensive. Since you know I'm a poorfag.
9bbf66 No.15586511
>>15586446
>>every meme I hate is from cuckchan
It's not that you moronic nigger, they're unfunny memes used by cuckchanner like yourself. They're not cuckchan memes because they're unfunny, they're cuckchan memes because they're literally from cuckchan. Now go the fuck back.
0051e7 No.15586534
>>15580938
<second yoshi looks closest to the handdrawn original
>NO IT HAS TO BE A PIXELATED MESS
1ddcb8 No.15586552
>>15586534
What the hell are you talking about it still looks like ass.
0051e7 No.15586555
>>15586552
>IT ISN'T A PIXELATED MESS IT LOOKS LIKE ASS THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED FOR YOU TO SEE THE RAW PIXELS!
1ddcb8 No.15586597
>>15586555
The filter looks like ass, just get a CRT for fucksake.
0051e7 No.15586650
>>15586597
>The filter looks like ass
Cool opinion, /v/ has taught you well. Too bad in this case the yoshi in question looks good and isn't a strawman like the other filter memes you faggots pass around.
1ddcb8 No.15586678
>>15586650
The only one that looks good is the hand drawn one, the filter ones just look like it's been smeared with vaseline.
0051e7 No.15586707
>>15586678
>The only one that looks good is the hand drawn one, not the one that looks almost exactly like it cause it filtered and filter bad FILTER BAD
c755e3 No.15586744
>>15586707
No its looks like shit, it has blobs for hands, bags under its eyes, malformed shading, bad outlines that form random abysses on the nose and mouth and a really shitty nose.
0051e7 No.15586752
>>15586744
>it has blobs for hands
As opposed to pixelated blobs
>bags under its eyes
>malformed shading
Making shit up now
>bad outlines that form random abysses on the nose and mouth and a really shitty nose
Yeah, I am going to have to disagree. Having outlines of squares doesn't improve any of that.
c755e3 No.15586773
>>15586752
>Making shit up now
Look at it you, the curvature of the shading(that the original sprite has) is gone.
And look at what happened the undersides of his eyes, see bags due to the stretching.
>Having outlines of squares doesn't improve any of that.
It does when the pixel outlines aren't stretched to fuck.
And you can't deny the deformed nose makes it look like shit from any distance.
d4f50c No.15586786
Emulators because fuck the idea of paying these prices for games. Seriously, $100+ for Super Metroid, $50 for Days of Thunder, $250+ for Earthbound… Fuck that noise. Before assholes like James Rolfe and Pat Cuntri started talking about it, making it the next big frontier of "geekdom" and making out like everyone should buy video gaems you could acquire most games for fairly cheap.
I saw this image a short while ago of a guy who had a house fire, and his entire collection went fucking poof. 2000 games. You know what doesn't go poof in a house fire? The community archives of the same games. If you can perfectly emulate these games, then good, fuck your stupid collection of plastic.
8ca57e No.15586794
>>15586786
FUCK YOU PIRATE REEEEEE
I CAN AFFORD EARTHBOUND BECAUSE I HAVE A JOB AT MCDONALDS!!!!
d4f50c No.15586802
>>15586799
Do you happen to have the webm with the guy doing the voices?
f690b1 No.15586861
>>15581602
CRT filter blends colors while preserving high frequency details, interpolation destroys detail. Take another look at how the hair remains sharp and distinctive in the CRT filter but becomes a formless blob in your version, or how unpleasant the text is to read after the blue highlight is averaged out of existence.
0051e7 No.15587273
>>15586773
>square pixels have curvature
>shading under the eyes are bags now
>the nose isn't blocky so it is deformed
Yeah, I get it, filters BAD filters BAD filters BAD. Why? Well, because filters BAD!
cd3931 No.15587284
After what they did to isozone, I am never giving these cocksuckers a dime. And I never did to begin with since I'm not an emotionally and mentall stunted manchild like mark and the rest of his cadre of nintoddlers.
a8ee47 No.15587522
>>15586786
Yeah, but you know, flash carts are kind of a thing for the type of autist who wants to slap a cartridge into what is likely a reproduction console they bought from a good will or some shit.
559078 No.15587531
>>15581665
>>15582225
>little bitch works for approval and can't bear criticism
>removes himself
And nothing of value was lost.
bd8e74 No.15587544
>>15587284
shut up faggot nigger.
13c483 No.15587719
>>15587531
Worse, retard targets the absolute lowest common denominator imaginable (the mobile game audience) and then is surprised they're retards and assumes the problem lies with him.
You can't make a profit on the mobile game market. The fact that the actual screenshot of their game doesn't even look all that good certainly doesn't help there. The UI, character portraits, and actual game field all have separate artstyles and clash harder than a japanese salaryman at a ghetto rap concert, and the blue font at the top looks like shit and hard to read on the dark background. For someone who can write so much about art mistakes in other people's work he sure as fuck is oblivious to his own mistakes.
<what I made can't be bad, it must be the fault of pixelart!
1e4639 No.15587754
Carts whenever available. I don't hunt Retro Games to bloat prices like a hipster. But when i'm playing old games, i prefer to emulate and immerse on the old ways to play vidya, before digital-only soy and PC Gaming took over.
I only buy physicals of games i know and really like, though. If i want to try something quick i emulate.
1ddcb8 No.15587781
>>15587754
Why don't you just get a flash cart then?
0f175f No.15587800
>>15587273
Jeez, can you leave? We get people that think they're smart because they're going against the popular opinion on /v/ every day and they're never smart as they think they are.
This board is going to be "FILTERS BAD" forever anyways.
0cadb9 No.15587899
>>15582258
C A N O N :^)
>>15587273
>square pixels have curvature
The shading on the lower portion of his nose. The second one converts the subtle curve into a straight line, and it goes from looking like shading into messing with yoshi's profile and turning his nose into a beak.
>shading under the eyes are bags now
They do look like eye bags now instead of just the bottom of his eyelids.
>the nose isn't blocky so it is deformed
He's probably referring to the nostrils.
f8a610 No.15587948
>>15586650
>>15587273
The 2nd Yoshi is a customized filter by the guy who hand drew the 4th Yoshi, you moron.
20da3a No.15588344
Depends on how accurate the emulators are, how much accuracy matters for the games you want to play, what you actually miss from the original hardware, and how much the flash carts are. I have flashcarts for portables but emulating with an original controller via usb adapter is good enough for me for gen 5 and earlier
>emulators or carts?
>most of the thread is faggots arguing about filters
>people actually defend that supereagle or whatever shit
>>15581721
>different people with the same name did it so it's "canon"
d922e0 No.15588350
flash carts/software mods always if possible
0051e7 No.15588380
>>15587800
>c-contrarian
>>15587899
>square different colored pixels are shading that must remain square to be curved and if smoothed out to an actual curve are no longer curved!
>They do look like eye bags now that they are large squares! large squares can't be bags so BTFO!
>He's probably referring to the nostrils
Yeah, well that's petty.
>>15587948
>implying the yoshi sprite wasn't based off of some concept art that wasn't pixelated
Congratulations, you have no point.
0cadb9 No.15588411
>>15588344
>different people with the same name did it so it's "canon"
Yes.
>>15588380
>Yeah, well that's petty.
I think the entire argument is petty, but petty can be okay too!
20da3a No.15588525
>>15588411
Actually yeah, I didn't word that well, what I meant was that the original devs were obviously trying to get the transparent effect and the new devs just blindly copied the old sprites.
>non-canon hipster shit
Now I see I was mistaken to get in the way of this fantastic ruse
554b6e No.15589286
>>15586209
Now I'm wondering how much disagreement on this website stems from people simply not opening the thumbnail.
554b6e No.15589315
>>15586534
Did you look at it for more than 5 seconds?
>His arm doesn't look like he's making a fist anymore, it's like a weird tentacle
>the spines on the back of his head are now two floating dots
>The sharp point meant to indicate an upward tail is trimmed off making it look like a lump
>Just in general, a lumpy amorphous mess
>One nostril is larger than the other, and the smaller one is slanted
>His fucking thousand-yard stare
>His smile: gone
c755e3 No.15589701
>>15587899
>He's probably referring to the nostrils
Actually no dubsman, i was referring to the shape of the nose;
notice how it is no longer just round, but dips a bit at the end and this effect is clearly not due to the nostrils as the underside has it as well.
Also i just noticed how fucked the shoes are, even the actual filter emulators use don't do retarded shit like that.
The point is that while both look shit in a close-up, at a distance the sprite is superior;
while the filtered one will still look like shit.
0051e7 No.15589967
>>15589315
>His arm doesn't look like he's making a fist anymore, it's like a weird tentacle
Your imagination.
>the spines on the back of his head are now two floating dots
Oh wow, you mean just like the pixelated sprite? And you accuse me of not looking for more than 5 seconds?
>The sharp point meant to indicate an upward tail is trimmed off making it look like a lump
Haha you mean the sharp edge of a square pixel was totally intended to be a square pointed tail?
>Just in general, a lumpy amophous mess
Ridiculous exaggeration.
>One nostril is larger than the other, and the smaller one is slanted
Right, because as we know Yoshi is not supposed to have round nostrils. No, he is supposed to have perfectly square nostrils just like the pixels depict.
>His fucking thousand-yard stare
More imagination at work on your part.
>His smile: gone
ebin
It is great that you can tell there is a smile going on with those pixels in the first place, and again the intended look is obviously a bunch of hard square edges along every color difference of Yoshi, right?
Of course the filter isn't perfect because the original sprite isn't perfect. It is a low resolution sprite due to limits of the hardware. This is like you arguing that pic related his how Mario is intended to look, all the official artwork be damned.
960325 No.15590026
>>15589958
Better yet, if your console uses CDs just burn the iso images yourself.
c755e3 No.15590029
>>15589967
>Your imagination
Look at it moron, it actually does look like one.
>Haha you mean the sharp edge of a square pixel was totally intended to be a square pointed tail?
The end of yoshi's tail is sharp though, you aren't even focusing what is technically wrong with the tail.
>No, he is supposed to have perfectly square nostrils just like the pixels depict.
Even squares are closer to an even oval, moreso than a line and a blob.
Or are you trying to imply all errors are equal?
Also the argument is that the filter is shittier than the original sprite you know, not that the sprites perfect;
nobody is saying that the sprite is better than the handrawn.
00822c No.15590032
>>15590026
I also do that for my Sega CD, though ODEs like the GDEMU and Rhea are the future my dude.
d647b4 No.15590040
>>15585985
Nier is kind of good
c9e953 No.15590043
>>15590032
>GDEMU and Rhea
Hey those sound great
>have to autistically follow the guys blog
>have to wait for him to announce he's putting them up for sale
>have to be available for when he actually begins the sale
>have to get one of the 30 he's actually selling for the entire year
I mean they might be the future if someone else made them. For now they're a joke with how they're handled.
00822c No.15590053
>>15590043
I got both, each on my first try. It's not that hard when you're already on the net a lot tbh. Mind you he is on middle of the EU time so each time I had to stay up until an ungodly hour for my American ass. Would be nice if they were easier to get, but you work with what you got. Insert some speech here about gaming being about overcoming challenges.
On the plus side someone's already cloned the GDEMU, so if you really don't want to deal with that guy you can hunt down the knock off and hope it's good.
083e67 No.15590112
>>15580899
Why are they getting angry over rom pirating? They're not and haven't been selling these games for 20 years. It's not a lost profit so again, why? It's also funny that Nintendo and their soy sucking, 20-something "loyal consumers" actually think you can shut down piracy. A month ago I decided to get the NES and SNES library back, and while the most popular sites were down, finding a decent collection was piss easy.
When it comes down to emulation vs cartridges, I think I'll stick to emulation. I'm not hurting for a 100% authentic experience so much as to justify buying all the necessary junk to have it.
0cadb9 No.15590145
>>15590029
Tentacle or crab claw? You decide.
>>15590112
>selling poorly emulated vc games that don't transfer across consoles
>selling poorly emulated sbc meme boxes
<why are they getting angry over better options that are also free?
Good question. We'll get our top guys on it right away.
c8a890 No.15590153
>>15590112
Same why everyone else is trying to make you forget about old games; because they don't want you making comparisons and figuring out that modern games are about making a timesink that suck as much money out of the people who play them rather than making the best game you possibly can because you should.
554b6e No.15590241
>>15590112
Well, the tweet isn't actually talking about piracy, it's just one of those out of context memes, and they are REselling these games on virtual console and shit, which people do buy (for some reason). But yeah roms are still piss easy to find.
0bf6f1 No.15591786
>>15582208
>NTSC
A rare filter with a point, meant to fix game effects that require NTSC television standards tricks.
>xBRZ
Probably the least shit re-scaling filter out there right now. Acceptable in some circumstances. Very expensive computationally.
>Sai/SuperEagle/HQx/Scale
Garbage old gen rescalers.
>Prescale
Don't know anything about this one.
>Bilinear Interpolation
In the context of sprite filtering, they make Sai/HQx look good. Ultra avoidance recommended.
0051e7 No.15592680
>>15590029
>The end of Yoshi's tail is sharp though
Due to pixels, not intent.
>Even squares are closed to an even oval than actual ovals!
Right…
>Also the argument is that the filter is shittier than the original sprite you know, not that the sprites perfect; nobody is saying that the sprite is better than the handrawn.
It isn't shittier than the original sprite though. It has some problems, but you just like all "muh colored blocks" fags exaggerate the problems. I don't even advocate for smoothing filter generally anyway. I do advocate for filters that recreate the CTR look as much as possible as that is what was actually intended. Despite your delusions to the contrary the developers never wanted you looking at raw unfiltered pixels. They expected you to see them through a CTR screen which definitely did not preserve half the clarity of the pixels you are arguing for.
b8530a No.15596309
>>15592680
>Due to pixels, not intent.
And how can you know this? If I draw a square are you telling me the corners are supposed to be rounded? They are clearly using the edges of the pixels to their advantage.
>Implying the nostrils aren't much worse on the filtered version
It's literally a large blob and a thin, slanted line. Could it be any further from what it was supposed to be?
>It isn't shittier than the original sprite though.
It is. It's complete fucking garbage.
>Despite your delusions to the contrary the developers never wanted you looking at raw unfiltered pixels
This is the only true thing you've said so far. But one thing I know for sure, is that nobody would ever want you to see their game through those disgusting "blob filters".
The problem with these blob filters is not that it removes edges, but that it fucking creates things that weren't there, and generally warps and twists the image, basically destroying all the hard work of an artist just because of your aversion to jaggies. Raw pixels is absolutely the lesser evil when it comes to blob filters.
Just look at this example:
In the raw image, the ring is complete, in the filtered version, the ring is broken. This would never happen on a CRT. You see, despite the fact the developers never intended for you to see raw pixels, it still preserves the intended image better than these fucking meme filters. Not to mention that in motion, the image would constantly be recalculated in weird ways causing great inconsistency between frames of animation, and interacting with background layers, like one of those videos of "art filters" where everything morphs around strangely. It's wrong, misleading, ugly, and doesn't look closer to either the CRT look or the hand drawn look. That's the problem here.
5b47e3 No.15596343
>>15581463
What is your pic from? She looks like a cute bandit
f8a610 No.15596372
>>15592680
>Due to pixels, not intent.
Wow, you've managed to spit on and insult every graphic artist who was forced to work with pixels in only a few short posts. Pixel art is made to look as close to the hand drawn art as possible using various techniques because of limitations, bad pixel artists are basically you.
b879a6 No.15596391
Second game gets a lot worse in later stages when it's untouched.
25a0ca No.15596433
>>15581132
I mean that's only because they know they can get away with it.
b8530a No.15596457
>>15596372
To go off on a tangent here and talk more about of implied color illusions rather than edges/points, another great example is Pikachu's sprite from Crystal.
At first it looks as though his cheeks are red, but pokemon sprites could only have 2 colors, plus white and black. But if you look closer, you can see his cheeks are actually the same color as the brown stripes on his back. It's weird, but they chose a color that would appear reddish when surrounded by yellow, but looked brownish when near black pixels. And it's not just Pikachu, the entire case of Pokemon, despite only have two colors each, appear so alive and colorful. It's amazing to they could create so much with so little, it's one of my my favorite examples of great pixel art.
2c5b45 No.15596481
>>15596391
That's a pretty tasteful blur effect.
0051e7 No.15596613
>>15596309
It sure was nice of you to ignore the last part of the entire post.
>>15596372
>they had to work within limitations so we should pretend like those limitations should be upheld!
Your own examples show where the pixels create a warped picture of the characters. This isn't a knock against those working with pixels, but a simple fact none the less. Ironically the artwork of Rambo's eye there would be called a "filtered mess" by faggots like you since that is about what a filter would put out.
5b47e3 No.15596634
>>15596457
56x56 is a really weird resolution to use
7a3b57 No.15598894
Nostalgia fag: cart
If you actually just care about the game: emulation
d79ae1 No.15598904
>>15596634
i think the back sprites and the front sprites during battle are at different resolution and scaled differently in-game, so it's epic
b8530a No.15602116
>>15596613
>It sure was nice of you to ignore the last part of the entire post.
Except I didn't ignore it, but just for you I'll go over the whole fucking thing all over again.
>It isn't shittier than the original sprite though. It has some problems, but you just like all "muh colored blocks" fags exaggerate the problems
It isn't just "some problems", it is a fundamentally flawed way of presenting the image which is less faithful to the handrawn art. Since you have trouble seeing what it on Yoshi, I made an example using a ring to show how filters DESTROY information contained in the original sprite. Just because it doesn't have sharp corners doesn't make it more faithful, that is a incredibly shallow surface-level metric of comparing them.
>I don't even advocate for smoothing filter generally anyway
Good.
>I do advocate for filters that recreate the CTR look as much as possible as that is what was actually intended. Despite your delusions to the contrary the developers never wanted you looking at raw unfiltered pixels
Only true thing you've said so far. I agree. However, the blob-filter version is even further from what was intended to be seen.
>They expected you to see them through a CTR screen which definitely did not preserve half the clarity of the pixels you are arguing for
The filtered versions preserves even less clarity than what a CRT would, and in addition, warps and destroys the data in ways that a CRT never would. Unfiltered is the lesser evil compared to blob-filters.
b8530a No.15602130
>>15596613
>Ironically the artwork of Rambo's eye there would be called a "filtered mess" by faggots like you since that is about what a filter would put out.
The whole fucking point is that Rambo the bad example. And it's not official artwork, he just connected the pixels together to show how bad they look. Why are you replying to a post you obviously didn't read?
90f117 No.15602145
>>15596613
>Ironically the artwork of Rambo's eye there would be called a "filtered mess" by faggots like you
What's ironic is that you accuse someone of ignoring your post, but then proceed to obviously not read someone else's at all but still somehow reply to it anyway. Amazing.
0051e7 No.15602177
>>15602116
>it is a fundamentally flawed way of presenting the image which is less faithful to the handrawn art. Since you have trouble seeing what it on Yoshi, I made an example using a ring to show how filters DESTROY information contained in the original sprite.
I ignored that strawman for a reason.
>Only true thing you've said so far. I agree. However, the blob-filter version is even further from what was intended to be seen.
Blob-filter is a gross exaggeration and I do not agree that it is further from intended since half of the issues are entirely imagined on your part.
>The filtered versions preserves even less clarity than what a CRT would, and in addition, warps and destroys the data in ways that a CRT never would. Unfiltered is the lesser evil compared to blob-filters.
The clarity lost is square edges. For example, the problem with the filtered nostrils on Yoshi caused by the square white highlight pixel being turned into a round highlight. The "tentacle" arm has the same black outline just no longer squared off. Your entire problem is from the square edges being rounded off. "Muh colored blocks" perfectly describes the malfunction your brain is having over the issue.
b8530a No.15602257
>>15602177
>I ignored that strawman for a reason.
But the same shit is happening to Yoshi, that's just what this filter does, that's how it works. Since it it does not intelligently design the filtered sprites, it's pure luck whether a spire comes out "passable", which is arguably never, and games have thousands upon thousands of sprites, and on top of that these filters cause sprites to interact with the background layer in ways a CRT would never cause.
>Your entire problem is from the square edges being rounded off.
It's doing a lot more than just rounding them off, you said it yourself:
>the problem with the filtered nostrils on Yoshi caused by the square white highlight pixel being turned into a round highlight
Yeah, problem, which the unfiltered version doesn't have. Which makes the unfiltered version more faithful to the hand drawn version.
0cadb9 No.15607275
>>15602177
You've convinced me!
0051e7 No.15607930
>>15602257
>the highlight is supposed to be a perfect square!
7d9467 No.15607977
>>15587284
Actually, the situation with isozone was different than that of emuparadise. Isozone literally was shut down by it's own owner because he wanted to create a "legal" ROM/ISO sharing service. It's just about as retarded as that sounds. Also, he didn't even let people that wanted to back all the Isos and ROMs up and host it somewhere else do it, because he was feeling extra jewy that day and shut the whole damn site down.
f477d9 No.15608258
>>15607275
I'm coming in from the front page to ask:
which way DO you play older games then?
2f3d29 No.15608319
>>15580899
Carts, of course. How am I supposed to put groceries in an emulator?
2f3d29 No.15608502
>>15608404
But that's gross, anon. Why would you buy groceries on the internet? They'll be spoiled once they get to your house.
e1b44b No.15608512
>>15608502
Spoiled milk past the "expiration date" is still good for two weeks afterwards. Stale/moldy bread is fine if you either ignore the funkyness or have enough other ingredients/condiments to overpower the moldy taste. Cheese you just slice of the moldy parts and the rest is fine. Only spoiled food I had trouble scavenging was meat, I could never get the taste to be tolerable.
ef8a3e No.15608524
>>15608512
>eating expired food at all and risking food poisoning
are you living in a 3rd world shithole by any chance?
0cadb9 No.15608535
>>15608468
Royale mangles the colors too much below 4k when downsampling the default mask, use this instead.
>>15608512
This is shower shitting levels of disgusting. You better stop it right now!
f477d9 No.15608550
>>15608512
>drinking milk 2 weeks past its expiration date
I pity your toilet
0051e7 No.15608673
>>15608271
>>15608445
>>15608468
>play the shit version of aladdin
>use the shittiest filters available
>blow low resolution background characters up to prove a point
You faggots are just sad.
0051e7 No.15608794
>>15608776
>it's bad because of the building corners in the background!
This!!!
8439c8 No.15608798
>>15608404
>those tabs
Made me chuckle.
2f3d29 No.15608800
>>15608512
Tell me more, anon. What other ways can I eat rotten food and still live to tell the tale?
02c229 No.15608822
>>15582208
>bisquit
Isnt that some Fin youtuber who for no reason uses kikespeak on the beginning of his videos? Wait, is he part jew?
85be5c No.15608823
>>15608468
>>15608776
>>15608271
>>15607275
you guys are doing this all wrong. pic 1 - digital RGB. pic 2 - analogue RGB. thats it.
b322ab No.15608846
>>15608512
>Spoiled milk past the "expiration date" is still good for two weeks afterwards.
Anon confirmed for drinking his milk with pulp
85be5c No.15608853
>>15608823
pic1 - RGB
Pic2 - RGB with dithering filter (no need for composite shit)
0cadb9 No.15608870
>>15608823
>brown skin blue eyes
<peach skin blue eyes
The second one is pretty racist tbh. It's 2018, do we really need to whitewash characters???
85be5c No.15608873
>>15608823
>>15608853
5x digital line doubler, with 100% 3 point scanline pattern.
0cadb9 No.15608882
>>15608873
Now that actually looks really gross, like some lazy xrgb-mini scanline shit. Cut it out!
85be5c No.15608904
>>15608882
scanlines will always be a half pixel height at odd integers like 5x while 4x would be a full pixel (some people enjoy skinny scanlines and most displays have trouble with full width because of brightness limits)
85be5c No.15608912
>>15608882
>>15608873
note please look at images "full screen" to prevent issues
0cadb9 No.15608931
>>15608912
>>15608904
It just needs more variable beam width and it'd look pretty okay.
85be5c No.15608939
>>15608931
that 5x shot was over a year ago new firmware looks even better. but most haven't had a chance to use it yet
85be5c No.15608956
A good monitor is also a necessity. what displays are you all running on? (I use a mix of crts and lcds)
0cadb9 No.15608969
>>15608956
Left looks like an ultrasharp.
f8a610 No.15608977
>>15607977
He backdoored their site and from the sounds of it he didn't care about legality he wanted to make money.
5b47e3 No.15609048
>>15608524
>He doesn't know that shelf life is labelled way before it's actual due date so people toss it sooner and buy more
0051e7 No.15609121
>>15609048
That actually goes differently for most perishable foodstuffs like milk and eggs, because they want to sell that shit and know most people check the dates on those before buying.
0cadb9 No.15609139
>>15609121
Gotta grab the fresh dairy/meat hidden behind the old shit. Never fall for the retail jew's tricks.