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Bumpan because it 404's on my end.

MP3 was alright

>>15548644

It was. I hate all flow breaking cutscenes but otherwise I like it. Playing it without using cover it's a blast.

>>15548629

>Favorite gun(Pump Action Shotgun)

Godawful weapon in the first game. Fires too slowly to be useful in a fight unless you hide behind cover and wait for enemies to come at you.

Also, I wish more games did the whole noir thing, regardless of genre. It's such an underused setting.

>>15548689

>Airport song

You must mean this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxNrrVcbkx8

MP2 was my favorite. it had everything 1 had, but better. dual ingrams were my favorite, but also the pump shotgun.

my favorite character was max from mp3

>>15548676

Simple, headshots exist in the first game. Aiming headshots can take out groups of enemies no problem. Another trick, shootdodging resets your fire rate. Meaning you can shoot, shootdodge and then instantly shoot again.

>>15548732

that fag better not mean this one

>>15548689

My biggest problems with MP3 is the constant pace breaking and having some fucknugget character in the background yelling at you that you need to get moving now. It was either

AYO MAX WE GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE MANG

or

I HAD TO GET OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THESE LEVELS WERE NOTHING BUT SETPIECES AND THERE WAS JACK SHIT EXPLORING TO DO

MP1 had some good music too.

>>15548941

Jeffery Whatshisname isn't as visually cool to look at I guess.

By the way what's Remedy up to? I saw Quantum Break but the filesize and requirements felt bloated so I never got around to it.

>>15548954

Looks like Anita.

>>15549014

Fuck those nightmare levels though. Completely kills the pacing.

>>15548780

Health is a pretty neat band

>>15548676

>godawful in the first game

nigga! this is the best weapon until you find the pancor. you just suck at shooting

I enjoyed the first game and got a few levels into the second.

The two things that I didn't enjoy were how the retical on certain guns such as the desert eagle wasn't aligned and the randomness of it all. The desert eagle is the only precise weapon that you can use in the early game and the player is expected to make a few long shots. I know that the game addresses how random the action is, but acknowledging it doesn't make it better. I would have preferred a little more consistency in the accuracy. It encouraged save scumming which is piss easy with the save system. Also, fuck grenades.

Now that that's done, I would like to say that this is one of the only good third person shooters because it isn't cover based. The style and presentation in these games is top tier. I know that the third lost some of the character, but I bought it anyway without thinking.

Are they any good MP1 or 2 mods with custom levels?

>>15548780

Disgusting! I wasn't referencing that trash song. I was referencing this grenade launching legend of a song.

>>15548946

Quantum Break is garbage, not fun to play and a pozzed up story too.

>>15549401

Seconded. It's obvious they made it to please Microsoft for that delicious 'exclusive' money. It rarely feels like a true Remedy game and those moments are gone as quickly as they appear.

>>15549415

Only good part was CIA.

>>15549328

Oh for fuck's sake I know that piano song but I can't remember. Anon please help

>>15549533

>>15549575

How can you not love a face like that?

>>15548689

God damn sam lake has an expressive face

>>15549954

What versions? Disk, Steam, etc.?

>>15549954

>What versions? Disk, Steam, etc.?

I'm never fucking using the smiley flag ever again, that shit is like actual aids if you use tabs. I can't even delete either of the posts for some reason.Fucking sage for triple post…

>>15549960

>>15549958

Disk one, I got from here but I had the same issue when I tried with a different one ages ago

myabandonware.com/game/max-payne-c5q

>>15549968

Have you already got the "Essential Improvements" from PC Gaming Wiki? One of the patches is the "Startup Hang Patch"

>>15549974

Yes, tried "MaxPayneStartupHangPatchv1.01", tried compatibility mode and shit just doesn't start at all. No errors no nothing

>>15549954

I remember you had to patch the first game but after that it's a smooth sailing experience of shooting guys in slow mo

>>15549983

Have you tried all the compatibility modes? Windows 98 is apparently the best.

>>15550033

>>15550039

I tried the comp mode and still nothing. I guess I'll try my luck with XP in a virtual machine

>>15550097

Anyone who played MP would know this.

Max Payne needs a remaster.

Reminder MP3 never happened and is fan fiction made by Cuckstar writers doing a bad imitation of Sam Lake's writing.

>>15548644

>>15548653

Nope it was shit.

>>15550217

Nope, they're fine as it is. Let them be.

>>15550242

But it could always look better. I wish they'd make a Max Payne Trilogy in HD so gamers who missed them could enjoy them.

ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME? YOU GOTTA BE FRICKEN KIDDING ME. HE'S JUST ONE COP, WHACK 'IM! WHAT'S THE FRICKEN PROBLEM? HELLO? HELLO?

>>15549954

>>15550049

I had that issue. Make a .bat file called MaxPayne and stick this in it

start /affinity 1 MaxPayne.exe

>>15549575

A couple of problems I'm having with 2, is that

>It's way too easy, it's not like MP1 where it's not afraid to throw loads of enemies who can two shot you at the drop of a hat

>A lot of the writing feels like a "REMEMBER THIS FROM THE FIRST GAME"

So I'm looking at the modDB page for the second game and I'm seeing some interesting shit and some pure shit. Has anyone got any recommendations on those or should I simply take the plunge?

>>15550583

Elements of Style

Second game was the best. First game's dream sequences were the worst. Third game's unskippable cutscenes were also the worst. I also hate how the second game makes you do a bullet time reload when you're on a kill streak.

>>15550254

>Look better

max payne is lookin good

>>15550052

>>15550039

the comic parts were made in 4:3, which is why the play and power icons look warped, if have not noticed

>>15550250

Payne's actor had his chance to shine in 3, the movement system, and shooting mechanics, along with his acting pretty much salvaged the game.

Though to be fair, Playing through Payne 3 was a good "man on fire" simulator, I legitimately felt like a fish out of water the entire time, since brazil is such a shitty place, and rockstar, despite their faggotry, did a pretty good job capturing the feeling of brazil being a shithole (the few HUEUEUEHUEHs I know commented that they were pretty on point) Didn't one of their on-site artist get kidnapped and ransomed at one point while scouting locations?

>>15550661

Honestly I hate the violin rendition of the theme. It pretty much heralds the start of the series taking itself too seriously and max being this "abloo abloo my life sucks" faggot. It just has nothing on the style of that guitar crescendo of the original theme.

>>15550726

t. retard

>>15550736

t.soyboy

Why don't you go listen to sad violin+piano remixes of popular 90's songs done by a woman who whispers the lyrics into a shitty laptop mic

>>15550736

I just don't like it. Payne should be some goofy looking motherfucker who powers on despite the shit that goes on, not some permanently drunk hobo.

>>15550794

Oh and let me talk shit about something that also plagues games like Ratchet and Clank Up Your Arsenal

I fucking hate "friendlies". I don't want some dipshit character constantly talking my head off about how we have to go while they take out my kills in a game where there are barely that many enemies in one spot to begin with. Fuck MP2 for doing it, fuck MP3 for doing it.

>listening to some cleaners talk

>MAX GO BACK TO THE APARTMENT AND JUMP DOWN TO THE LOWER BALCONY MAX GO BACK TO THE APARTMENT AND JUMP DOWN TO THE LOWER BALCONY MAX GO BACK TO THE APARTMENT AND JUMP DOWN TO THE LOWER BALCONY

>>15548629

I played Max Payne 3 only recently, after years in the backlog. What exactly was the problem with faggots disliking it, back in the day? SJW piloted dislikes against white males?

I used to be a fan of the first two and didn't find much difference: the New York levels are absolutely great, while south america is so fucking dirty and dystopic it's almost science fiction. There's a few new quips to learn, too.

>I needed a real drink to deal with the electronic music, and the robotic people

I always hate the dream sequences in MP1 and 2. They're really boring to play on top of having unnerving jumpscares.

>>15548764

MP2 felt terrible to play for some reason I can't really put my hands on. The gunplay was just off. MP3's gunplay was excellent.

>>15551207

They aren't as much jumpscares as they are really loud noises.

Fuck me, instead MP2 had mona moaning like some horny schoolgirl.

Another thing I hate about Max Payne 1 and 2 is how they depicted New York and it's brutality in the outdated film noir style, which doesn't fit the modern New York atmosphere. They should've gone with a more upbeat and less melodramatic exploitation cinema style mise en scene and soundtrack.

>>15551209

>console version

I can't fathom how shitty it runs and plays. Is there any auto targeting of some kind?

Fuck the games, let's talk about THE MOVIE and how Marky Mark is a vietnam fucking shit.

>>15549575

>you can no longer dualwield deagles

But you could dual dualwield deagles in mp2.

>>15551232

youre the biggest faggot on 8ch right now

>>15549533

>>15549543

Poets of the Fall have some pretty good albums, check out their older songs on Youtube.

>>15551498

The cinematography and editing are really good, really keeps the tone of the game. The action scenes are fucking awesome. There's a good balance between realism and over the top matrix-style action. It was directed by the same guy who did Behind Enemy Lines, one of the most war movies ever. Too bad 90% of the movie is ruined by soulless acting and unengaging script.

>>15551676

I still don't quite understand why they felt the need to shove in paranormal elements in what should have been a really easy adaptation, seeing how the game is heavily inspired by crime noir and movies in general.

Did they think the plot was too generic? They could have very easily just made a good action movie in the vein of John Wick (and yes, I'm aware this one came later).

>>15548689

>>15548653

Imagine if they'd gone the comic book route with a budget of that scale and a team of real artists instead of the photo bashing like 1 and 2. They squandered a golden opportunity to be unique and revitalize the franchise characterizes every part of Max Payne 3. There's so much creative they could have done, and it would have been adored. Instead, we get a game whose creative ambition was to copy Man on Fire, a mediocre Denzel Washington flick. Right down to the condescendingly flashy subtitles that look like a car commercial and non-US setting. On top of that, comic book franchises are vaccuuming in normalfag dollars more than anything else today. The fuck were they thinking dropping it?

It pisses me off extra because of what they got right. Max, turned body guard, given a new vendetta, is a solid skeleton for noir plot. It got the tech right. The game has extravagant production, and the NYC chapter teases the classic look. Why the fuck did they blow their wad making a game that isn't Max Payne. It's glossy, uninspired and over-produced, soulless mismanagement that characterizes everything wrong with AAA today.

>>15551824

*That they squandered a golden opportunity to be unique and revitalize the franchise characterizes every part of Max Payne 3.

sage to fix my bad grammar

Holy fucking shit, why are MP threads filled with so much cancer?

>>15550254

>I wish they'd make a Max Payne Trilogy in HD so normalfags who missed them could enjoy them.

Fixed. Kill yourself and go back to >>>/reddit/

>>15551151

>What exactly was the problem with faggots disliking it

<shitty cover based gameplay that was already oversaturated by 2012

<style and tone completely out of place from the first two games

<writing that badly apes Sam Lake's writing style

<completely disregards MP2

<turns Max into a whiny drunken faggot who suddenly is back to moping about his dead family

<unskippable fucking cutscenes to cover up "load times" which was a complete fucking lie

<cutscenes that pointlessly interrupt gameplay and often fuck with your weapons that you have equipped

That's why it's fucking shit.

If anyone actually enjoys MP3, you're a fucking normalfag pure and simple and have helped in lowering the bar for games in general.

>>15551232

>Another thing I hate about Max Payne 1 and 2 is how they depicted New York and it's brutality in the outdated film noir style, which doesn't fit the modern New York atmosphere. They should've gone with a more upbeat and less melodramatic exploitation cinema style mise en scene and soundtrack.

<I hate thing that made MP1 and 2 unique and well known

Seriously kill yourself.

>>15551676

That movie is my guilty pleasure, it's just fun to watch. The gunfights are so over the top, and the way people just fly back after being shot with a shotgun is great.

>>15551855

>le eceleb weighs his thoughts

Faggot.

>>15551921

Isn't that the same faggot who does the Serious sam videos? Just ignore him

>>15552079

ha

ha

>>15552098

DAMN YOU

>>15552107

That dll is specifically from the startup hang patch https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/838-max-payne-series-startup-hang-patch/

Unless you are advising for downloading a dll from one of the thousand sketchy dll sites out there. You're not doing that, right?

>>15551965

He had some valid reasons for not liking SSam. I don't like it too much because it feels like the entire game is circlestrafing, and circlestrafing for the entire game gets quite boring.

>>15551855

>I hate thing that made MP1 and 2 unique and well known

Looks silly for me. The music and Max's monologue felt too cold and calm for a man seeking for revenge, unlike the protagonists of Death Wish and Vigilante. I mean, Charles Bronson's character could pretend to be a level headed man in public, but you can feel the rage burning inside him when he's alone and tracking the bad guys. The theme music of these two films reflected this burning rage too. I don't feel such rage with Max, he's such a terribly written and acted exploitation character. Same with the boring music.

>>15551733

>I still don't quite understand why they felt the need to shove in paranormal elements

There isn't, it's just the hallucinating effects of the drug. The game had it too.

>They could have very easily just made a good action movie in the vein of John Wick

The action scenes, cinematography, and atmosphere are superior to John Wick already, it could've been better.

>>15551866

>the way people just fly back after being shot with a shotgun is great

It's fun, but it's also one of the things I didn't like about the movie. It's a PG13 movie though, so I guess they had to trade glorious shotgun wound with that.

>>15552304

I'm way too in love with SS to have anyone talk shit about it, even if I do acknowledge its flaws.

I was more talking about how that video was constantly shilled in every FPS/SS thread a while back, but listening to this video I can see he has a fair bit of good points So far.

>>15552404

>Looks silly for me.

Then that's you're problem, not the games. You don't get MP's appeal. Max Payne isn't trying to be an exploitation action movie like Death Wish, it's trying to modern noir.

>>15550686

>Completely different from MP1+2

>Which implies you played MP1 & 2

>Max had no reason to care about the huefamily he was protecting

Max didn't care about the huefamily he was protecting, Anon. You'd know that if you played 1 & 2.

>>15550039

>Getting randomly headshotted and 1hitkilled was also a pain in the ass on hardest

>not a payne in the butt

>>15554192

Payne to the max!

>>15554212

youre killin me

>>15552551

My argument was that noir only fits the 20s-50s era of New York, not New York of the 60s and beyond where gang culture, cop culture, and pop culture in general have evolved rapidly into a more upbeat and violent personality. The neo-noir genre itself makes little sense to me.

Moreover, I criticized Max's overly calm and levelheaded personality 24/7 despite his vengeful motives. You may argue that he's more like Harry Callahan or McQ than Charles Bronson, but both of these cops don't have much motive to avenge something.

>>15552949

>not skipping every cutscene possible

You're not a true fan of MP1 and 2. 3 is more your speed.

>>15553007

MP1 >>>>> MP2

>>15554454

I played through all of them on a binge for the first time two months ago. I'm not skipping cutscenes on my first playthrough.

>>15554806

So you liked the way the show started?

>>15554866

Mad Max 1 obviously.

3 has the best gameplay.

>>15550217

>>15550254

Literal fucking reddit, the only place I've ever seen that posted. The games are arguably better looking than a lot of modern games, get the fuck out.

>>15552304

A lot of his videos have valid points but the way he presents them is beyond cringe.

>>15551855

<shitty cover based gameplay that was already oversaturated by 2012

t. gears of war player. 'Oversaturated' only means you filled yourself with shit and now even the good stuff nauseates you - just like the morbidly obese would vomit at anything after filling with KFC.

<cutscenes that pointlessly interrupt gameplay

Hello I'm a sophisticated gamr and only play immersive games such as deus ex and bioshock.

>completely disregards MP2

Good. Fuck your Mona fanfiction m8.

SJWs had an easy time subverting communities, since faggots like you craved for reasons to shit on popular (white male) games. Lots of trannies took their first step by savoring the attention they were given when they first shat on Duke and Max.

>>15555693

>Game is designed to be pop-out of cover

I played the vast majority of the game without using the cover mechanic, but it's obvious you need to use the organic type of cover like running behind a corner. I seriously hope you're not implying your first go at Max Payne 1 was all out arcade fun, because enemies would destroy you without a plan.

>>15555693

You gain slow mo by being shot at so catching enemies outside of cover makes it viable. Of course when the game is constantly putting you in terrible positions and moving max is a payne in the ass I don't blame you for not attempting it.

is this the payne thread?

>>15554454

>The neo-noir genre itself makes little sense to me.

That's YOUR fucking problem then niiger and not an argument. It's what makes Max Payne stand out, if you don't like that then you don't get Max Payne and probably should fuck since you don't enjoy the series.

>>15555978

>'Oversaturated' only means you filled yourself with shit

<not over stuffing an industry with samey content that it's fucking everywhere

Nice nigger tier literacy there, nigger.

>Hello I'm a sophisticated gamr and only play immersive games

<not wanting to play games where the GAMEPLAY is focus of the GAME and not some badly non-interactive cutscenes you can't skip

>thinks bioshit is an immersive game

Hello I'm a sophisticated gamr and only play cutscene sims such as Half-life 2 and Max Payne 3.

>Good. Fuck your Mona fanfiction

<defending retcons

The absolute state of Cuckstar fans.

>SJWs had an easy time subverting communities, since faggots like you craved for reasons to shit on popular (white male) games.

<defending unskippable cutscenes instead of actually playing the game

<defending a game that takes Max out of his predominantly white American city from the first two games and now he has to defend spics, niggers, and hues

You can take your meme spacing back to

>>>/reddit/

>>>/resetera/

>>>/cuckchan/

Your action game designed for niggers, spics, and cucks will probably be accepted there.

>>15555693

How does the story of Max Payne 2 work well? The dialog and monolog is still decent, but the story itself is fucking garbage. It contrives and perverts the existing cast to avoid making any new characters, it recycles like man from the first game when you have all of new york to work with, and most of the plot itself is just mona and max fucking around in empty construction sites. Their relationship makes no sense and has fuck all chemistry. The only possible justification is that it's some "fuck you it's supposed to be bad" bullshit metanarrative. Which is gay.

>>15556225

yes, this is he

Max Heat>Lords and Ladies>Dick Justice>Address Unknown

>>15549366

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IT'S THE BUTT IN THE PAYNIS

>>15557622

PAYNE TO THE MAX

>>15548689

the multiplayer was awesome though until rockstar fucked it up by offering soft lock and free-aim lobbies, and then when the player base started to dwindle, combined fun gamemodes with modes no one liked into "playlists"

i can't think of any other multiplayer game that did 3rd person cover based shooting better, and then managed to get bullet-time and diving right.

guess i'll just have to settle for double action: boogaloo nowadays

>>15556264

haha i love this sketch from WKUK

>>15556114

>nigger

stopped reading there

>>15550666

>Payne's actor had his chance to shine in 3

Absolutely. He was great in spite of the story being irrelevant, and invasive.

2 I probably got the most out of, though I always preferred Sam Lake's face. The series is imperfect, but I have reasons to jump into each game. They've all got something special.

This guy has been making incredibly detailed and well choreographed SFM animations for a while, most of which using the Max Payne 3 model as the protagonist

these animations are my headcannon for max's life post MP3

>>15563668

unfortunately he seems to purge his channel periodically of content that im assuming he's not proud of, even though he should be.

>>15563684

i've started archiving his channel for this reason

>>15563595

Too bad Sam Lake is too out of shape to be a proper Max Payne. He needs to hit the gym and play Max in a new MP game/movie.

>>15563700

>Sam Lake is too out of shape to be a proper Max Payne

He looks about the same as he did when they used him as a model in the first game. Just older.

>>15563668

>>15563684

>>15563687

the amateur voiceovers kinda take me out of the experience.

My problem with MP3 is less to do with the game itself, and more with the fact that MP2 feels like the perfect ending of a story. Max finds some kind of peace, his vendetta is over and he can go back to living his shitty life. Nothing more needed to be said.

What if you were to capture James Mccaffrey and Sam Lake, anesthetize them and swap their vocal cords?

>>15564609

Well then it's a good thing MP3 barely resembles a Max Payne game, and its story is irrelevant. It's just like a bonus, with a great Max performance in it. For me the story did end at 2.

>Favorite Game

3 by far. It still has the best gunplay of any 3rd person shooter I've ever played, it has a fantastic soundtrack fucking airport level is a work of art and the graphics mostly still hold up. Shame that it has a shit ton of cutscenes that are unskippable that really drag down the replay value (there is a mod that makes a lot more cutscenes skippable though).

>Favourite gun

Probably the Deagle.

>Favourite character

Max himself.

There's such a great level of detail in the first MP.

>spent magazines remain on the floor

>stuff that happens in cutscenes translates to the actual game, for example Max throwing darts has the map update to show the darts thrown, crumpled paper, in MP2 killing some annoying "friendly" fuck in an early level has him dead for good when he's supposed to show up in a later level

>bullets actually coming out of the weapons instead of the aiming dot

>tv watchers in MP2 yelling at you if you turn off the tv or get in their view

>>15564745

Well duh! There are two after all!

>>15548644

> "MP3"

> Be in train ride towards the airport

> Accidentally body-shot a goon in the opposite train

> He lays wounded on the ground out of firing range

> Train ride continues forever

10/10

>>15548629

It's odd though, Max Payne 1 had a fine ending, it didn't really need a sequel. It doesn't help that MP2 his whole face was completely different and he looked some twenty years older. Still enjoyed it. "MP3" (as you might've guessed, I wouldn't really call it a real Max Payne title) had some alright things but absolutely having to execute every single enemy in order to progress was a little too much. It's more fun when you can walk away and have them tell the tale if given the option.

>>15563754

Sam has a beer gut underneath his shirt.

>>15568768

>it didn't really need a sequel

The credits mention a sequel. I'm just not sure why they went with MP2's story as the sequel, since it feels like what Max was like during the three years prior to MP1's first level(subway).

To this day I'm not really sure why they wrote Max and Mona like that in the second game. You could make a point that Max is just a sucker for a pretty face but why is Mona head over heels for Max then?

>>15548676

it's the second best of the tier 1 weapons besides the desert eagle(Desert eagle is the first good ranged gun). Obviously the best weapon in max payne are the AR variants you get though.

With the shotgun you just have to make sure enough pellets hit them in the chest and head to kill in 1 shot and you can literally run into most rooms and just 1 shot everyone especially in the hotel where it's all close range.

>>15551208

MP3 had the benefit of having decades of technology behind it you can't really compare the games but MP3 has undoubtedly the stupidest story, the dumbest characters, and the gameplay whilst good is actually alot easier and basic bitch than mp1 and 2

The only way to actually play mp3 is to play new york minute because the time forces you to actually play the game. Otherwise it's a cover based shooter than any retard can beat even on the highest difficulty the game takes no skill unless you are trying to push the timer to the limits. MP3 introduces alot of good mechanics but the problem is that it ULTIMATELY BURIES the franchise and is a total bastardization of everthing that the mp games represented not to mention the fact that the Rstar cuck fuckhead writers are actively shitting on the concept of max payne in the writing of the game. These faggots need to die.

>>15551501

He's such a dumbass he doesn't even realize that you can't dual wield desert eagles in MP1 you can only do that in 2 and 3......

>>15551824

Because they wanted to make shekels, make MP fans happy by making THE THIRD GAME OMG then totally burning us and essentially killing the franchise with the writing direction all in one move because Rstar should be fucking hates max payne and are jealous of sam lake for actually being a good writer and not a deconstructionist loser writer who relies on using stereotypes pop culture references bad jokes and using "Self awareness" as a crutch for being absolutely god awful storytellers.

>>15552404

can someone please murder this soy soaked abomination.

>>15554866

Max in 1 had a better outfit and overall look to him he was looked like a badass Michael Wincott. Max in 2 looked like some angry rich dad trying to kill some niggers that raped his daughter which isn't bad per se it's just kind of funny. Max 3 is shit because he's a dying boomer who hates himself as opposed to MP1 where he's still a young guy with some vigor and an appetite for carnage instead of complaining about shit he just wants down a bottle of vicodin and murder assos.

>>15568825

Max doesn't?

>>15556179

The thing about max payne 2 is that it was leading up to some heavy conspiracy type shit involving senator woden and vlad but it goes nowhere because I think the studio knew they weren't going to make a third game so they just cut everything short and tried to tidy it up in the terrible 3rd act that answered almost no questions.