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I get an infinite black screen

>>15542332

no because it's a dogshit port that crashes on launch, not even worth playing for "free"

>40 GB download

I'll pass for now.

>>15542486

Subway station bathrooms are used as prisons. If you capture someone else's character, they get put in your bathroom.

what's the most fun conserving and p2w avoiding way to play this game?

>>15542555

Play something else.

>>15542486

originally, during the first 6 or so months of the game, the fighters that you captured could be turned into your own fighters, if you managed to keep them captured for a period of 24 to 36 hours. The bathroom facility actually extracts the SPLithium out of the reanimated fighters and adds it to your SPL bank, a fighter depleted of SPL could be reprogrammed to be your own, hence why you get SPL everytime you check the bathroom with prisoners in, it extracts SPL at a specified rate/minute captured But at some point they pussied out of this mechanic and made it so that if you keep a fighter captured for just 4 hours, you get an item bag of varying quality and the corresponding SPL and that's it. the fighter gets ejected with an ass-rocket back to its rightful owner.

it was an interesting mechanic, too bad they couldn't bother actually balancing TDM to make it fair.

>>15542509

its only about 24 gigs to download, just downloaded it the other day

>>15542509

>>15542673

>>15542509

>40 GB download

compared to some of the shit that comes out these days, 40 gb is mild.

>>15542673

24GB download, plus an extra 224MB for every attempt to launch the game if you're one of the unlucky few whose game can't launch for reasons that the devs still haven't been able to figure out a week after launch. If it doesn't even get far enough to visibly crash, and instead steam just says you aren't playing anymore, you still get the crash file taking up space, and every time you hit play another one will be created.

>>15542843

sounds like me too

>>15542332

I'm gonna try and get this shit working through wine, but I don't think my odds are very good. Here's to hoping though.

>>15542894

if you can run steam games through wine, you should be able to run it. then again im a filthy windows pleb. and also, the game consumes easily 8gb of memory on my PC. not sure if thats normal but good thing i invested in 16gb instead of 8gb.

I'm waiting for the port to be unfucked, which will likely be about around when the population peters out, so likely never.

I'd try it, but the fucking game crashes on startup, so fuck that. I'll wait a couple more days, but if that shit isn't fixed then they can suck it.

>>15543008

Quality Japanese programming.

>>15543008

I considered doing that, since nothing else worked, but then decided that I could just swap over to my PS4 and play it that way instead of downloading internet explorer.

>>15543029

Why do you own a PS4? Are you retarded?

>>15543034

it had some good exclusives for a very brief period of time, but then 95% of them got ported to PC. Nioh, Yakuza, Nier, etc.

hell the only exclusive i care about on the PS4, today, in october 2018, is Digimon hackers memery. Not to mention the fact that the PS4 already got hacked so all games, bar online ones, are free :^) look it up if you dont believe me

>>15543040

So you paid what, $300-400 plus a few hundred to play a number of games you can count in one hand. I refer to my second question.

I beat Jackson on F20 today. Just a fair warning to new players:

-The game is grindy is grindy as hell. Once you hit floor 13, that's when it really hits when you'll start being 1 hit since beyond floor 11, enemies are using guns.

-About every 5-10 floors, you get another star increase for your fighters. Always check this. Each star adds 25 levels you can play and higher base stats. If you're getting stomped on floors, it's cause your character is too low a star. a naked 3 star level 1 can beat a 1 star level 25.

-Armor only starts mattering floor 8.

-machete is overpowered, so level it up

-Take quests. This is a good way to make money and get items. Most people ignore them.

-When TDMing, look at the enemy's visible rank. The lower the number, the easier they are.

>>15543067

I don't know if they said about the PC release, I just meant the game in general. I don't own a PS4.

I went there once last year and saw a general thread about it. Between the constant shitposting by sony fanboys I heard it was a decent game with dark souls style combat.

>>15543080

rank is determined on a very strange way

if you have one 1★ fighter, your rank is 1.

if you have two 1★ fighters, your rank is 2.

if you have ten 1★ fighters, your rank is 10.

however, the moment you get a single 2★ fighter, regardless of how many 1★ fighters you have, your rank becomes 16.

so, having one 2★ fighter, and nine 1★ or one 1★ will make your rank 16 anyway.

now, when you get two 2★ fighters, your rank becomes 17, three 2★, 18, and so on.

The same thing happens for 3★ fighters, but with a different base number, it seems your rank is calculated by the number of highest-available-tier fighters you have purchased +a base number corresponding to the number of ★s of your highest tier fighter.

1★ base number is 1, 2★ base number is 16

Once you figure out the rank numbers, you can estimate the amount and tier of your targets fighters, which helps determine who to raid and who to skip on. unless you think you got the numbers to break through those defenses in 3 minutes.

I have been rushing through the floors with Infinite durability weapons and armor. It's not really how the game was meant to be played but I just see it as a way to even out the balance of the game largely skewed towards whales. Besides, even with this the game is STILL hard and grindy. What a shame.

It doesn't start

I guess they have let it die

So what are the player named faggots I keep murdering? Seems like really bad AI controlled NPCs.

>>15543595

>go to steam forums

>install windblows update goy

>install internet explorer goy

>yay it werks xddd

Holy shit, I bet it also has some redshell or something similar.

>>15543747

It's the same system Nioh has. You fight AI with players' gear and stats.

>>15543770

Install windows update and internet explorer goy.

>recommended requirements

>Intel® Core™ i7 7700 or higher

>16 GB RAM

>NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 or higher

>for 2013-tier visuals

lol

>>15543576

Same, I have no remorse rushing through the game with this (and more) since the game doesn't respect my time and the devs said they're going to try and implement an anti-cheat soon so I have to be quick. It could've lasted much longer if we didn't have hueniggers and retarded 12 years old running around in TDM with godmode and one hit kills at level 1 with a grade 1 fighter.

>>15543576

>Infinite durability weapons and armor

The what now?

>>15544027

What's the funniest thing that could happen in your opinion for a free to play game with always-online that gets ported to PC after a while ? For me, it would be that your health, damage dealt, damage resistance, item durability, player speed and much more are all readily modifiable via Cheat Engine without any repercussions. Now, that would be funny.

>>15542332

Played it for about ten hours. Felt like it got a bit too tedious with the boring grind and floors all looking the fucking same. Then I got interested in what is actually at the top floor and looked it up. I then deleted the game and haven't touched it since. the weapon variety, animations and general gameplay feels extremely clunky and autistic, I mean why do weapons break so fucking fast, that's not fun. It's annoying, I'd rather have two weak weapons than four strong ones that break within a few hits

If they added some cool weapons and they didn't break I'd like it a lot more.

>f2p p2w garbage that was talked good about by the console babbies gets ported to PC

>turns out it's utter shit

wow it's almost like these people enjoy eating shit by the spoonful

>>15544078

wew, really now? thats quite the fuckup on gungho's part

>>15544087

the only thing good about this game is the music when not playing going up the tower.

I've wanted to play this ever since it debuted on ps4 but I'm crashing qt startup. Guess I will try updating shitternet explorer.

>>15544267

The waiting room does indeed have great music is there a radio for it on the internet, I'd like it

>>15544290

My game worked by setting my exceptions in the anti virus menu thing. not that it's worth it all mind you, don't even bother anon

>>15544295

what retarded fucking antivirus are you using?

>>15542332

> "pay 2 win"

Lmao that shit kills me, you can't pay to win even if you wanted to. The game is just brutally hard.

>>15544333

avg

>>15544339

Dark souls 2 is harder, the game is just a boring, dull grindfest. Not to mention the lack of weapon variety of so fucking boring.

>>15542332

>above 20

Steam users need to git fucking gud, the game doesn't even get hard until floor 30 and I got there on a controller. I bet they're trying to use retarded setups, or they're not bothering to upgrade their shitty D.O.D. Arms weapons.

>>15544343

> lack of weapon variety

Of all the criticisms I've ever heard of LiD, that has to be a new one. I checked the wiki and the game has about 50 different weapons, not counting upgraded versions

>>15544343

>avg

what is this, 2008? get malware bytes.

>>15544343

i count 48 weapons total, in the weapon mastery screen where you can see your levels. where is the lack of weapon variety?

>>15544349

>>15544371

The only weapons I saw were a hammer, slightly bigger hammer, bat and a hand saw. Admittedly I only got to floor 10 but the games shit either way. I don't mind grind but the grind in the game is just not fun.

>>15544373

>floor 10

You stopped right at the point where the good weapons start showing up, like the sniper rifles, magnums and assault rifles.

>haha you can't judge the game because you didn't do 100% of it several times over

<what's that, you played the entire game? then it can't be that bad since you stuck around to play all of it, can it?

>>15544554

what are you talking about? nobody made this statement in the entire thread.

>>15544554

He complained about the lack of weapons in a game that has several dozen of them, then revealed he hadn't played far enough to get to most of them.

I don't know if you've played Let it Die but it doesn't take long to get to the tenth floor, you could probably do it in less than an hour on your first time if you really tried.

>>15544615

the entire first area of the game was made easy in a later update too. enemies are significantly weaker on D.O.D. arms area than they were on release.

It's fun but it got too hard after floor 20 and i'm in an endless cycle of grinding. Guess Suda has to make money somehow since the game itself is free.

I just wait a month and try again with the death metals you get in the mail after while.

Still nowhere I want to be though.

>>15544078

That is pretty damn funny

>>15544615

I had played for five hours and by then had still not fully enjoyed my self. I don't like all the haha pay for this XDDDDDDDD shit in the game. I understand it's a free to play game but it's just off putting.

Like I said before, animations felt clunky, movement was alright but the game in general felt bad and in my opinion if I'm still not enjoying my self at the 5 hour mark I'll just stop.

Also the ending pissed me off a lot more than it should have. Seriously all that and you just get a lmao nerd PRANKED ending. That alone was the thing that made me uninstall the game, I'm not putting a shit ton of effort into the game for an ending like that, it feels more like a punch in the dick than a good ending.

also this >>15545026

>>15545051

i thought the ending was good and i like the feeling of slowly upgrading yourself and your arsenal, different walks i guess

>>15543773

>tfw windows is borked and wont let me update IE unless i do a full reinstall

and nothing of value was lost

>>15546246

what about the flamethrower? it seems like a meme gun

>>15546246

its not just the damage, but the durability of the katana was kicked to the curb. about 10 or so horizontal slashes and that thing is as good as a rubber dildo (because of how damage was always tied to the % of durability left in your weapon).

god help you if you're on a hallway and every attack you make with it hits walls or other objects, durability on this game decreases on contact, hit an enemy? hit a wall? hit an immovable piece of furniture? break a crate? a bit of durability is lost. any part of your weapons hitbox comes into contact with anything that isn't air, and it will lose durability.

44ce gear is the way to go these days, as hard as it is to grind i cannot believe there is no porn of Red Napalm yet, i mean come on internet

>>15546303

no, air is fine.

when you do a hit that touches nothing and it still loses durability, is because you're hitting the ground. yes, the ground is also a solid object.

ie:

the pickaxe L2 wont lose durability, but the R2 always will because its a move intrinsically designed to hit the ground. and dont even get me started on the pickaxes dust attack, that shit hits the ground repeatedly during the charge up that its naturally designed to be the kind of attack you have to plan ahead of. because if you fuck it up, you lose a ton of durability AND open yourself, but if you score a hit, the enemy is left vulnerable like a baby

the first hit of the katana L2 won't lose durability (horizontal slash) and the first hit of the L1 combo (the pommel hit) wont lose durability either, but as soon as you perform the second hit of either (the downwards slash) the weapon will hit ground, and lose durability.

again, both of these are true assuming you do them into nothingness, if you actually hit an enemy, the durability will be deducted.

>>15546303

>invade some nigga that looks like one of those cheaters, high as fuck TDM rank but defensive fighters are a joke

>kill 3 defensive fighters with ease

>4th and last comes down

>he's a tier above me and has this fucking weapon, and on top of that, an alarm that summons a Reversal

>die like a bitch because i've never seen this weapon in my life and i dont know how to counter it so the reversal eventually catches up to me and pistons me right in the face

>disqualified from TDM fight

rip possible Death Metals. fuck my SPLife

go get your 6F stamp today boys, its the only day of the week its available

>>15549555

but i like the ambient noise of the tower, it helps my focus on playing gud instead of getting distracted by cool hip j-pop

>>15549555

>Pro tip: Use shrooms

Are you a newbie?

>>15549555

>Pro tip: Use shrooms

thanks captain obvious

>>15551227

After researching a tier 1 weapon to +4, You can research the next tier of the weapon, there are 4 tiers to each weapon, the final tier can be researched up to +9, each tier requires different materials.

I got real lucky scoring materials and blueprints for a flamethrower and DIY armor. I would want to get an Iron blueprint but damn, flamethrower kicks ass despite being low ammo.

>want to level machete

>they don't fucking exist

granted I'm only on floor 11 but come on, I keep running into haters using them.

>>15551493

Lots of enemies have them past floor 20.

>>15551308

I see, thanks. I thought it was separate blueprints since there is golden version of a few pieces of gear in the recycling machine. What's up with those then ? Do they just "skip" a part of the upgrade tree or are they just separate weapons/armor altogether ?

>>15551445

I am not defending cheating but acting like the game is perfectly balanced and respects your time is as dishonest. Not to mention, bringing up post game content about a boss that you don't fight with post game gear the first time is a moot point.

Most people who finished the game either farmed like crazy for gear, shrooms or both. Don't act like this is a single player game and the devs don't have a vested interest in dangling a carrot in front of the player after beating them with a stick.

>>15551538

>waaa the game isn't easy and doesn't "respect my time"

am i on cuckchan /v/? what the hell is this.

>bringing up post game content

there is no "unlock" for armors other than farming materials, you can have tier 4 "postgame" armor at any point without having defeated gunkayima or even Crowley if you know how to farm materials and use the vending machine frequently, this thing regularly sells t4, t5 and t6 materials for killcoins during random rotations.

>but they dangle a carrot in my face!

so? don't bite it. get gud.

>>15551587

Fuck anon you're so fucking cool.

>>15551538

I had my fun with the game, that's the most important. I don't think the game has unbeatable aspects, I just think that there is time to invest to get there and only people who have a lot of their buttons pushed with this game will invest the required time.

>>15551445

He sells blueprints but it seems like he sells the same retarded blueprints, or am I just getting unlucky?

>>15551537

I think it's completely different weapons with different rarity, you can't really 'skip' tiers as far as I know. As anons said, Iron is overpowered and apparently DIY armor can helps you climb floor 1 to 40 easily with it's only weakness is ranged attacks.

>>15553426

you have to buy the ones he has for him to show others on your next visit. eventually he will show none as you will own every blueprint.

>>15551537

the vending machine sells 2 types of blueprints. ones are regular blueprints, the ones that you could find in chests or at chokufunsha, but it costs you DM, which is ridiculous.

the other ones, the ones you buy with recycling points, are actually alternative versions of the gear they're mimicking. they have different colors and slightly different stats BUT they are their own weapons, which means you have to develop them independently of the original.

i think the alt-sword has slightly higher stats, but im speaking from memory because the alt sword already was in the game before.

>>15554557

not really. when you buy a fighter you sometimes get higher caps on some stats. happens on all fighters, and on all ranks, since release date.

bloodnium and deathroids were introduced to make those "extra levels" be available to people who don't get them through sheer luck and on all stats instead of just random ones.

>>15554823

you got something nice there ain't ya?

>>15554969

You can get more skillshrooms throughout the tower, just be glad it's just a bronze skillshroom.

Why the fuck floor 20 boss almost immune to fire? It took me few minutes to realize he's not a hp meat shield

>>15554969

>he ate the skillshroom

you dumb motherfucker, you're lucky they're not that rare anyway.

they're for trading with momoka to get skill decals. the most important of which is poison eater and Treasure hunter post-game.

>>15556100

source?

I'm pissed. Where's all the porn of the Mushroom Magistrate? Like honestly, what the fuck.

>>15556129

there's like 2 pictures and thats it.

im more pissed about the lack of Red Napalm porn, i mean come on /k/, what the fuck are you doing?

>>15556123

Art by a chinese guy named "Mai Nut Ow".

>>15556152

Precisely, there's only two and they're both completely lame. I want to see some JLulaby tier shit of her.

So is there seriously anything you should be spending Death Metal on besides storage space?

>>15557643

Not really, the P2W accusations are overblown as fuck considering Death Metals aren't that useful.

>>15556581

>mediocre to bad

Eh, I don't know, I think Eltonel is pretty good.

>>15557697

oh right, this. some of those decals are fucking good and they're pretty lenient on the RNG.

i didnt know danny devito played Let it die

I never got that far while playing on console but going through the game a second time, I'm noticing a variety of differences, but also that it feels far easier than it did before.

>>15557792

the game has been updated countless times. the first two areas were made a lot easier. equipment, stats, and some AI have been tweaked, and so on.

Is there anything more to knocking out fighters during TDM?

I read its if there closer to your level then there is a higher chance of them getting knocked out, but does the weapon you use actually effect anything, since I think i knocked out guys with the machete.

>>15557873

It's random.

>>15555857

Why is Poison Eater so good? It's the first premium I got.

>>15557873

i haven't actually "knocked out" a defender since i started playing on PC, other than the tutorial one which is 100% because its a fucking tutorial.

i dunno, i think i kill them too hard.

>>15557915

>It's the first premium I got.

you unbelievably lucky cunt you, good one.

>>15557915

It lets you stand in snails to heal, eat poison shrooms to heal, and since TDM is full of poison weapons, it makes those heal you too.

>>15557915

reminder that fighters have an invisible Hunger meter, eat animals every now and then to prevent your stamina recovery from going to the shitter.

>>15556153

Come on anon don't be like that, you're really busting my nuts here

>>15557928

>going against someone 20 whole ranks higher than me

>lose because the alarm brought out a COEN who packed my shit in

Had 1 last fighter with a machete. Alarms are horseshit if they can summon bosses.

>>15558570

I love seeing all these newfags to the game, it's cute.

>>15558570

>n and Fourth-Tiers showed up a

Yeah, once you hit around floor 15 your alarms gets upgraded. But it only summons COEN

>>15558737

I know she's not that hot or anything, but it's her personality that gets me. I know everyone says don't fuck crazy, but that doesn't apply to vidya characters.

the whole game is shit

MOTHERFUCKING DEAL WITH IT

>>15542332

>Someone saved my shitty OC

I feel at peace with the universe

Also, already made it to floor 40 in the PS4 game, shit ain't worth it. All of the recycled bosses get boring super fast not to mention how tedious it is to hunt for materials and golden critters

>>15558787

The shotgun isn't very good, just keep upgrading the KAMAS.

>>15558812

>>15558798

I'd say that the game fills a very specific niche, there isn't really anything like it when it comes to the weird mix between looting simulator/punishing but rewarding combat/randomized aspects and the progression of farming hours to get your shitty hobo gear to Mad Max murder tools and armor. There's also little details that some people really enjoy (myself included) and that tickle our autism like specific weapon mastery that unlocks new moves. There's a lot of layers to the game and things to discover if you're wishing to spend the required time. This means that those few people who are exactly looking for what this game provides love it to bits, which is why there's also so many spergs vehemently defending it.

On the other hand, to someone who doesn't really care about all the above, what they find in this game isn't going to be that compelling. There's barely any variety to enemies, just a few robots and human characters equipped with the same gear you can use. The environements in a same area are all copy pasted. There comes a point where you WILL need to spend hours to get your gear up to speed for most players because of the difficulty spike past floor 20 and 30. Also, you will need to look for info online if you want an easier time doing that and the fact is that no matter how much veterans who didn't mind it screech it is almost unthinkable to someone who isn't enjoying the game that much to ask that he stops climbing the tower and instead does back and forth between the tower and his waiting room for hours to collect materials. There's also a few things that will up the frustration factor like hoping for a good decal when buying a stew, getting raided without the insurance, etc.

My point is that people who love the game are willing to overlook the flaws or they don't bother them that much because what the game provides is really unique. People who aren't really convinced by the game won't really be willing to spend the time. I understand that once you've put time into the game, learning to use shrooms and decals efficiently, getting a decent rank in TDM which gives a pretty big flow of KC and SPL, getting good gear researched, etc. then the grind is pretty much over however few people will be willing to get there.

>>15559898

If you just want to beat the game I'd say around 60 to 80 hours are a good estimation if you aren't paying a dime and informing yourself. In my opinion it's not that much (I finished Divinity in 60hrs) but I agree it may be to some people especially if they aren't loving it.

>>15559897

Yes, 50k are pretty easy to make when you're nearing the original ending (F40). Also, don't hesitate to partake in TDM, at rank plat and diamond you get 10k of KC and SPL BONUS on top of what you plundered per successful raid. It's possible to make tens of thousand in cash in a few minutes. However to really make the big bucks in TDM an express pass is a great help because you won't lose money during attacks (and imo if you only want to buy one thing it would be an express pass).

>>15559897

I can get ~20k just by half assing the first 3 levels. Money really isn't that hard to get.

>>15561614

protip for money farmers: the LUK star is there for a reason.

stat*

>>15561717

Yeah, crits

>>15561730

the MONEY goy

>>15561808

i love how they got some random dude to make japanese onomatopoeia of the animals and used that in the game, its a really nice little detail.

>arrow keys occasionally won't work anymore for picking up items and mimic wasd instead

>esc won't work in japanese hitler's sell tab if he finishes r&d while you're in there

God damn fucking control mapping.

>>15561961

no doors will close on you, if thats what you mean. Kankamata is just there on mondays for newbies to pick up some coins when they start, really its the shittiest day rotation of them all.

>>15558737

See >>15556581

You can also lurk on dumblr and twatter to catch artists putting their livestream notice, join, and request a doodle or whatever the fuck they will do anything 80% of the time.

>>15562238

You will get invaded pretty rarely if your TDM rank is low.

>>15562315

dont you want to complete the "defend your base 0/50 times" quest? i do. you wont get invaded if you don't have some juicy resources that others want to steal.

>Mark Hammill

>Billy Dee

>And Verne Troyer voice things in this game

I though I heard Hammil narrating the intro;

Billy Dee I assume is jackson

Who the fuck is mini-me?

>>15555857

>>15557915

>have now gotten a second Poison eater for my third premium decal

I am assuming there's nothing beneficial about stacking them right?

>>15562851

you can equip the premium and normal versions of a decal for double effect because they count as different decals, but in the case of poison eater that doesn't work.

>>15562897

i havent gone into the Heaven floors, but i assume the real way of getting bloodnium is by going up there, not by getting shitty shrooms that give you 10 bloodnium at a time. they do help however.

im waiting for friday to do my ikegara->omeno-soto weekly run because that day, the rotation makes for a much shorter way by hoping through the maps that pass through 6F Chudo. you basically skip like 3 floors. efficiency nigga.

>>15562986

>4 pictures

>tons

let it die is pretty fucking dry in terms of OC

Is there any sort of guild or 8ch community for this game?

>>15563468

there are no guilds. its essentially a single player game but you can raid other players bases, or send your fighters (AI controlled) to hunt other players.

there are country teams, but everyone just joins the most populated ones for those sick fights, or the least populated ones in order to not get base-bullied all the time.

>>15563476

I got that impression. It seems like a Korean MMO style Dark souls. Not a bad game but I'm not sure it's something I want to invest in. I'm hunting for a game with a community that isn't pozzed to shit. >>15563476

>15563476

>>15563528

It's entire grindy mmo style is very korean.

>>15563542

korean MMOs have this hotkey bar mashing boring ass shitty combat.

let it die is actually FUN

>>15563573

I'm talking the systems around the combat.

>>15563662

He's trying to say that it's like a Korean MMO, not because of the majority of complaints of that style i.e. the combat, but rather the grind. As if grind is such an unfamiliar concept to be found in MMOs.

>>15563674

warframe plays on the same concept, is warframe a korean mmo?

>>15563697

We know you're severely autistic and struggle to understand things but you need to stop posting.

MMOs changed as Koreans moved into the market. They introduced the cash shop method and making later areas requite intense grinding or a pay shop to advance. Most MMOs today use that same model and it's the model this game is using as it's foundation.

>>15563513

>Dark Souls

Actually it has more in common with Dead Rising.

>>15563435

>Bone Tubers

Yes, they are so autistic they'll fuck your armor up in a matter of seconds.

I played a bit of it, got to the 200th floor after about 4 days and the game said there wasnt anymore. its not really that tough the game throws tons of gear and consumables at you if you are already really good at souls games. I didnt spend any money on it.

>>15563768

Yep, I fucking hate them, but they seem to be shit at pathfinding at least.

>>15563894

Ideally you want them to dash or do the jump slash, anything else is too stressful.

>>15564126

Encountered a couple in Fun Town, they weren't able to hit me and went down easy with the machetes I found.

Remember that the Irons alt attack has a huge window for perfect blocks. It doesnt lose durability either. Good cheese for when youre a pleb thats shit at blocking like me.

>>15564301

to be fair I just kinda autismo rushed through the game I didn't do much dawdling or collecting of anything that wasn't necessary other than knocking down the quests that gave me what I needed.

This game is great. Just got to the surface, everyone is shooting at me. Want to shoot back but not enough mats.

>>15564868

if you really hate those fags, don't get any armor with reduction to slashing

>>15564462

best I'd be able to do is send a screenshot of the 52nd floor of tengoku because once you leave it resets tengoku back to 52

I got a decal from a lost bag that changed my 1hp a second auto heal default to15-20hp a sec, this good?

>>15567856

Oriental Medicine, right? that one's pretty good

>>15567856

>>15568246

Isn't that a poor man's version of poison eater?

>>15568300

no, in fact, poison eater is the poor mans version of Oriental Medicine.

poison eater is kinda useless without, well, something to poison you, and it only lasts as long as the poison does. oriental medicine is constant and unstopping. it heals 15hp a tic all the time. it never stops as long as you have it on.

>>15568313

Do decals affect defenders? Im using other decals right now and the heal rate of oriental med on something like a defend fighter se3ms like a good way to piss off attackers

>>15568389

yes, they do. but putting a decal that heals 15 hp a second on a defender is kind of stupid when you take into account the fact that attackers can do damage in the 4 or even 5 digits later on.

>>15569214

you don't regularly get 4 star decals out of the coin stew. consider yourself fortunate. i get nothing but shit every single time.

>>15569214

>>15569298

Apparently you get a around 5% chance to get a 4 star decal

>>15569147

He used a trainer

Don't actually cheat, niggers

>>15570382

I wouldnt blame anyone for cheating though, the game is agressively p2w if you play the way you find fun and not in the most autistic mechanic abusive way you can, although cheating TDM is kinda shit

>>15561808

Sa-sa-sasori!

It tickles me

>>15570404

>the game is agressively p2w

Nigger the only thing you can buy is death metal, which only speeds up shit that you can only unlock via progressing up the tower.

>>15570404

>the game is agressively p2w

no its not.

>if you play the way you find fun and not in the most autistic mechanic abusive way

but that IS the most fun way to play, if you want a babby game that holds your hand and lets you rush through playing incorrectly for free go play something else. In this game, bad players pay to have the same level of fun as the good players. like it should be.

and besides its not like the game has that many mechanics that can be abused. the AI is predictable like in any other game.

>>15571507

>good players

being forced to abuse mechanics and a p2w grindfest is not fun, I've gotten pretty far but I find myself more frustrated with some of the obvious anti player bullshit in how the game is set up to make you want to pay just to have some insurance or to speed up retarded day long wait times. The game would have been far better as a full priced roguelite where everyhting was balanced for a challenging fun game without retarded mechanics, that is obviously there to try to force people to pay up.

>>15557907

Oh okay I re-read that, it first made me think you had to be the same level as a fighter to get better odds of knocking them out, but really you only get worse odds if there a higher level, I should have figured sooner that having a lower chance of knocking out lower levels would be dumb.

Well I was keeping my fighters at the first tier to make the TDM cheatos easier, but now that I have gotten a nice 100 defenses and attacks, I can actually start moving higher up the tower and not worry about that anymore.

>>15571720

Time to pinch those nipples, anon.

>>15571834

>"I have no argument"

good job nigger

>>15574724

I got the shuriken a while back, is it really broken? Still grindan bags so I can get the flamethrower now since that shit destroyed me in one raid.

Just installed this, how well can I do without reading about a single thing that's not directly explained ingame?

>>15574276

I dropped this manga, should I pick it back up?

>>15574798

You will have a bad time, talk to the Meijin often for tips and tricks, read tutorial messages and shit, don't get attached to your 1 star fighter(s).

Weird question: Why the fuck can't I buy anything out of the Hernia vending machine?

>>15574837

You can't buy from the bottom section, that just shows the pool of items for the daily rotation.

>>15574837

because you're poor?

>>15574804

No, it's too good for you

>win all 100 invasions

>get a rainbow mystery bag

>open

>another shitty Barbell that isn't even premium

this wasn't fucking worth it.

any tips for a new player?

>>15575499

Yes but the voice acting is not good see the differences between the mushroom magistrate.

So you know what's broken as fuck? Vampire stacked with its premium version and an upgraded shuriken or other weapons that cause multi/heavy damage, holy fuck easy mode. Stacked with attack buffs and increased healing means you just be agressive as fuck and heal everything back

>>15575480

happens to me every fucking time. the best way to avoid that is doing the floors with a ranged weapon, do not engage in melee shittery, just range every enemy.

>>15575501

i said they were fair. and they are if you're not shit at vidya.

>>15575727

Its not as fair as it would be if it was a full game without microtransaction bullshit. it pushes towards everything towards its shitty freemium model, especially the grind for materials, exp, upgraded fighters and gatcha blueprint/decals. Its a shame its a f2p because I really like the world and humor which is brought down by greedy business

>>15575774

no, i've played the PS4 version and i know not to waste non-premium decals on shitty fighters that i will eventually discard anyway.

i have 2 now but no premiums. i've never even got premiums on the PS4 version.

Ok so how do i go about getting materials? Do i somehow scrap items that i pick up and if i do how do i go about that? I have a ton of hammers in my inventory.

>>15575799

you pick the materials from the ground. there's no recycling equipment here. you use it until it breaks.

Also can you repair items? Like lets say you have a hat or weapon you like, can you repair it?

>>15575816

What part of use it until it breaks did you not understand?

>>15575816

technically speaking, there is a way to repair equipment, but its not the way its done normally like in other games.

there is a shroom called the Fun fungus, which can repair 50% of the durability of everything you have equipped, or 100% when grilled. but its an extremely rare mushroom that only appears on floors above 31.

also this does not recover your ammo. guns that run out of ammo are pretty much only good for an occasional rage move or two before they snap into pieces.

>>15575799

You can get a collector class fighter who has much more room in his death bag.

>>15575816

You can get skillshrooms which are rare but when eaten they repair your equipment, tho stuff you just find exploring the tower isn't worth keeping, you should be getting blueprints and focusing on R&D for the good equipment.

and then maybe use stuff you find when exploring and save your good stuff for when you need it during a boss.

>>15575848

>>15575852

I see. Well i found some sick ass raincoat that i kinda wanted to keep. Is every item craftable? I really like this coat that has a whole bunch of knives all over it.

Thanks for the replies.

>>15575861

That's one of the most common drops in the game, and yes it's craftable.

>>15575861

yeah, all the gear in the game has a blueprint corresponding to it that hitler can make for you. each piece of gear has 4 tiers that can be crafted from +0 to +4, also that coat is pretty trash, you'll find better shit ahead.

So whats all this blue metal? Ive farmed a ton of it already. Hopefully i can use it for something good later.

>>15576212

Colored metals for higher upgraded equipment based on equipment themes etc.

Should I even bother upgrading low level armor? I've been upgrading some trucker pieces because they're the only thing that give me defense to slashing, almost every other armor piece I have a print for gives me huge negative values to slashing and blunt. The only armor blueprints I have that seem 'next tier' I guess are some military spec armor that have a really good defense value and good defense against bullets but I'm also dealing with a ton of slashing from floors 11 and up.

>>15576235

Honestly, since everything is farmable i decided to just enjoy the game, upgrade what i could and farm blueprints. Ive noticed a drastic difference between having armor and not having armor.

>>15576235

Yes, you can bump it to another tier giving you even more defense, most notable at tier 3 where it almost quadruple your base defense, you're going to need it.

How do you guys farm specific mats you need like low grade iron and wood for finishing start grade weapons? You always aim for finding twin hitler and buy what you need?

Also does the lore drops appear in specific levels or is it randomised? I like colecting the comic pages and shit

>>15576543

There are certain places that have certain things. I noticed floor 2 had wood and iron. Though does not have a elevator.

>>15576543

I recall some of the stuff can only be get on certain rotations, if you haven't noticed this game has four rotations of the tower in the first 40 floors.

So played this for a good 10 hours. Pretty good. I would recommend it. Only thing I would want improved would be the radio.

>>15575741

I think it's fair because everyone is at the same level, however I don't think that it is acceptable to people that don't play only 1 game, have a job and aren't used to bullshit grind in video games. If you take your average chink or korean MMO, Let It Die is slightly below average and there's a real tangible goal to upgrading your shit which is getting higher in the tower. However if you're not used to those on top of everything above then you will clearly find that it is bullshit (and to be fair a lot of people did, you aren't seeing it because it's been a while since the game released on PS4 but a lot of people left early because of the farming aspect).

>>15576543

There is a helpful google doc floating around with the current rotation, I'll try to find it later.

Here is how it works : the tower rotates between 4 layouts everyday at a specific time. For a specific floor, the possibilites are :

-no materials drop there

-random materials specific to the area you're in drop (for example, iron scraps are F1-10, then it's wire mountain for F11-20 etc.)

-the floor only drops one kind of material but has a chance to drop one to two tier below or one tier above. For example, on F21-30, on an iron specific floor, you could drop iron scraps (T1), wire mountain (T2), mass of iron bolts (T3) or steel (T4).

>>15576705

I don't think I formulated it very well but

>random materials specific to the area you're in drop (for example, iron scraps are F1-10, then it's wire mountain for F11-20 etc.)

I meant that the material is of a random kind (ie either cloth, aluminum, iron, oil etc.) but not of a random tier. To elaborate :

-F1-10 : iron scraps, aluminum scraps, waste oil, cotton, clump of copper scraps, etc.

-F11-20 : wire mountain, aluminum can, vegetable oil, piece of broken copperware, etc.

and so on and so forth

>>15576703

You mean let you play the radio in the tower right? Because if youre gonna shit on the music im gonna cut you

>>15576801

I mean it needs more songs. The list seems kinda small.

>>15576705

>Anon will never deliver

Here is the doc :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DvNDTmy_4P72C1ly4xMYItO6gb17EtdI3XuHFzAcX4Y/htmlview#gid=1353594331

By the way, cloth floors drop every tier, there are an odd exception to the rule.

>>15576845

>>15576801

Radio has a lot of songs, just wish the two "stations" would play more than 5 songs.

>>15577560

OBS Needle Sounds is the one that shuffles through every song, each floor picks a random set of songs to play.

>>15577195

Tell me your secrets. I have never successfully defended.

>>15579328

they mostly died to my alarms, the higher you go the better you unlock, you can get one's that will 1/2 shot most defenders

>>15579484

yep, if you fight your own character, the items on its bag are gone. thats why you pay for it with coins

>>15579562

Well fuck. Though its not too grand of a problem, just a bunch of cotton and 10 bloodium down the toilet.

>>15579889

>>15579849

Its also why bone tubers are horseshit, that fast attack speed just ravages armor.

>>15580220

>whynotboth.jpg

because fire damage does not consume durability any faster or slower than any other regular hit. durability decreases on damage not proportional to damage, ON damage. What fire does is put a damage-over-time or DoT effect on the afflicted that does several hits over the next few seconds, and each of those hits decrease durability like any other hit. The iron has the added effect of hitting several times with a blast of fire. its a better flamethrower than the flamethrower.

even a scorpion stinging your toe causes your entire gear set to lose a small bit of durability.

This game is quite fun, I was very wanting to avoid it simply because of how kiked it is on the microtransactions but then I saw suda51's name. There is only one real complaint I have is that the Japanese version of the game for item names is real low effortthink suda being obsessed with the west as he is might have wanted this. However I saw someone in the thread say the JP voice action is bad but I disagree, I think it's great and they got a huge amount of really good voice actors. What is the downside to making a collector fighter? They seem to have 10 more slots in the bag but 0 disadvantages over the default.

So when are the cheats gonna be available? I think I had enough after beating it on ps4

>>15582765

They were already available with you being able to easily edit yourself into having infinite durability and health. The developers released it on PC with nothing to stop that but it's fixed now. You missed the boat.

>>15583355

>devs fixed it

then explain my max level defenders getting beaten by a naked lower grade fighter yesterday with instakills

>>15581992

lower stats on certain fields. it doesn't seem noticeable at first because they have large HP pools by comparison, but as you advance and unlock 5* and 6* fighters you'll notice the difference. It also doesn't matter at the beginning of the game because you're not really fighting anything too hard.

Later on when you need to farm the forcemen, the jackals, and floors above 41 you might want to do some minmaxing, that's when you make other types like attacker or shooter.

for farming stuff, you either make a collector or a luckystar if you're going for coins.

and for base defense, Defenders are a really good option, their huge VIT and HP might help delay the attackers enough that they end up losing due to timeout.

>>15583324

how can you not remember if you already own a blueprint, you dumb nigger. either way, no. the BPs sold by hitlers bro are all BPs you don't have. if you have a BP already, hitler's bro won't sell it.

>>15583384

the power of the mushrooms?

>>15583591

because I have loads of fucking low tier blueprints I havent upgraded yet from going to almost every secret area/room plus famring the dev haters. hard to remember half I dont wanna waste rare mats on

>>15583621

Do it for GBR anon, korea won last battle by simply having 3 times our numbers or something. Even so I got loads of salt from my defences, letting me rack up 50 for the quest

Just beat Crowly after 400k in resurrection costs. Took fucking Kama grenade to the face once for a 1hko in his pit. That was fucking fun…

>>15583761

Use the Iron.

>>15583761

>>15584411

just eat a stingshroom (real stingshroom) and use the motor psycho rage move twice, ez boss.

Anyone got any advice for U-10. Only got her to 85% and got destroyed.

>>15584907

you gonna need the power of the mushroom for the first time at least. farm some Bloody Pitching Machines A from the screamers on the 31st and 32nd floors. about 3 or 4 should do. eat a real stingshroom (the 120% attack one) and a transparagus/umbrella rib (transparagus prefered) in that order, then go in and as soon as the battle begins, pan the camera all the way up and lock on to U-10s body, not the tail tip, the main body.

Then go to town with the BPM's, don't reload, when one runs out of balls, move to the next, thats why you farmed several, so that you wouldn't have to waste valuable transparagus time on reloading. should be dead in about 2 and a half loads.

dont forget to equip decals that boost your attack, if you have a premium dumbell, barbell or Dual-wielding, hell, if you're a lucky son of a bitch like me and you got this one >>15571720 equip it. that will make it all the much easier.

>>15585031

I dunno, just run TDM attack for an hour and you can make most of it, just keep rerolling for some guy with low rank but high KC

>>15585031

KC recovery doesn't cost more than 250k. its capped there unless something's changed since the last time i played.

you can make 250k in a couple of hours with proper setup. its still a pain though.

>>15585059

Well I can barely make 50k in a day as it is. If you've got some trick to it that doesn't result in getting butt reamed by angry TDM jerks, I'd like to hear it.

>>15585074

Get to diamond, get a 5 star fighter, get a flamethrower. Never raid rank 61+.

No matter who you raid you get 10k + the kill coin.

>>15585074

>I can barely make 50k in a day

really now? you play for 24 hours and you only make 50k?

i make 50k on a single run of a few floors, maybe 30 minutes tops. what are you like tier 1?

you get more coins per kill and per chest as you go higher and get higher tier fighters with more LUK.

>>15585091

>you play for 24 hours

Let's not lose our fucking minds here, buddy. My "day"'s worth of playing is *maybe* a bit over two hours. If anyone played for 24 hours, I'm sure a lot could be accomplished, mostly in the way of shaving off a great deal of what remains of their sanity.

>>15585099

well you should be more specific then, because you threw a wide range of time there.

50k in 2 hours is still pretty shit, again, are you tier 1?

>>15585106

Nah tier 3. Have a 74 lucky star who I take on expeditions to lesser traveled areas but she normally only comes back with 20-30 kc. The bulk of mine seems to come from those daily login bonuses or quests.

>>15585115

TDM nigga

>>15585115

are you sending expeditions? those are a lot of money for doing nothing.

you send expeditions with the fighters you're not using, then you go out of the room to farm the tower and by the time the hunters return, each of them will drop from 2 to 5k on your mailbox. more if they actually defeat the hunt target.

and also >>15585126

Found a splattershroom. Should I do anything special to it or just eat it?

>>15585332

eat

>>15585332

Consume on the spot for 10 bloodnium.

>>15585334

>>15585342

ok what about a skillshroom? It seems im getting really lucky on this new run.

>>15585357

skillshrooms are used to trade with momoka back in the waiting room. dont eat them.

>>15585357

DO. NOT. EAT.

>only people crushing my defense are faggots with shurikens

>try to get revenge

>get hit by the throw's rebound

>fatal poison, half hp gone, COEN spawned

Why is the shuriken such horseshit? I'm even seeing them on low tier fags, upgraded as far as possible for their 2 star fags.

>>15585419

probably gonna get nerfed, although I assume if you mix up your defences more it can throw attackers off once you get good enough to know the moveset of the shuricunts

i am guessing that the shurikens and the evil wizard set, considering the stats, were made as a set designed to fight black thunder

Just got a rifle blueprint 11th floor. how do i go about doing headshots?

>>15585558

1. Aim for the head

2. Shoot

>>15585558

gee i dunno, shoot enemies in the head maybe?

you keep asking the most inane dumb questions anon, how about you play the game and try figuring some things out?

>>15585571

Thought there was some kinda aiming mechanism i have yet to find.

Is there a particular benefit for what team you choose for TDM or no?

>>15585576

You can manually aim 2 handed ranged weapons. 1 handed range weapons require the lock on.

>>15585584

High pop teams get raided more.

What track do you niggas use for your Tower/TDM, I have this on repeat only just found out Akira Yamaoka produced loads of the tracks in the game

>>15585648

means you're being raided as you returned to base, good luck anon hope he fucked up

>>15585658

Nope he fucked me up. Naked except shurikens and completely rolled my defenses.

>>15585648

when this happens it means you returned right as you were getting invaded.

that's why the timer on the slow down fight against yourself is 3 minutes, its what a raid takes. every punch you give your own self during this fight turns into free SPL

>>15585658

The one and only.

>>15586960

anybody find it weird how she's the only one in the entire tower that never wears a mask? there are toxic spores all over the tower of barbs that kill you nearly instantly if you breathe them in. thats why all the fighters and merchants in the tower wear masks, and thats why when you kill a hater they get automatically covered in this moss-like plant substance.

>>15587090

She says to you on some trips that the elevator is a "class 100 cleanroom" So I guess that explains it

>>15587119

so the elevator filters the spores, its reasonable i guess

>>15587119

>pass it when you don't have a pass

>briefly opens and she bows to you before closing

Wouldn't that be enough to kill her?

>>15587573

yeah but we also have living severed heads controlling monsters to attack you in the game

>>15588128

so all weapons can be turned into high durability high ammo murder machines now huh? it also comes with 420 ammo, in case you didn't notice

>>15588160

Yeah i think once you get them high enough the ammo multiplies times 5.

>>15588558

you always make collector until rank 6 when stats actually start to matter.

>>15589050

score changed already, alaska is winning again by a margin of 70k or so.

guess im getting death metals tomorrow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯