/v/ - Video Games

>>15592324

thanks

>>15592747

Korea destroyed my team GB, holy fuck are they all autistic

>>15592946

Hitler said it was okay to choose a different state if and only if your's is incredibly pozzed. >>15589395

Want to stay as NY but NY does not seem to be very committed. Despite that, I hate the feeling of being the guy who goes turncoat because things aren't going so well, so I stick with them.

>>15593302

the country team thing is ridiculous. not only you can join any team and change as you want, but you can also have a large team lose against a small team for bullshit reasons like TDM not letting you invade people anymore after you've "emptied" your list of available targets.

seriously, if its a really small team, there will come a point where your players will have nobody to invade and as such won't be able to gain score, its really poorly designed.

>already killed like 20 rocket launcher guys

>armor, armor, and armor

where the fuck is the rocket launcher blueprint god fucking damn

>>15593326

It's a CHARGERS blueprint like the drill arms and fire baton.

>>15593345

to be fair, I started playing on the tail end of that Oregon battle.

>>15593343

re-read my post. i killed 20 chargers with rocket launchers and Silent Sniper set, they always drop the fucking armor and never the weapon. getting real tired of this shit.

>>15593345

i always try to contribute at least 2000, that way i guarantee 2 DM in case of win.

>>15593374

You have a "gaming" computer and own no controllers? Explain yourself.

>hitler

Not even the right hair

>>15593384

>they aren't necessarily going to drop from every Charger that is wearing the same armor or using the same weapon.

that is literally how they work retard. if you meet a YTYMk@CHARGER wearing the apocalyptic hockey set and the chainsaw viper, then they drop the blueprints for the apocalyptic hockey set and the chainsaw viper.

same for every other @CHARGER set of gear. they SHOULD drop but they haven't because of the shitty biased low droprate particularly on the weapon BP. its the same crap with the forcemen, you get a dozen repeated armor blueprints before you actually get the fucking weapon ones., but not that 44CE gear matters nowadays since any weapon and any armor can be limit broken to have massive ammo and durability like 44CE gear

>>15593463

you should focus on developing these weapons as you go up

floors 1-10, hammer and iron

floors 11-20, machete and KAMAS assault rifle

floors 21-30, sword and cleaver saber

floors 31-40, pork chopper and pitching machine

and overall, the shuriken, if you manage to get the BP from the mystery bags that is.

>get fucked by unlucky bullshit

>use a precious death metal to continue

>kill remaining shitters and take one single step

>game causes critical system crash and turns off PC

>forced haterification anyway and metal is wasted

The level of bullshit this game goes to to fuck you over. This is at least the 4th time has caused a shutdown too. Fucking annoying.

>>15593484

it eats too much ram, have you seen the consumption on task manager? you better have 16gb or you will be prone to crashing

>>15593484

>>use a precious death metal to continue

l o l

>>15593606

>just put in a ticket bro xDD

t. gungho support

>>15593484

>>15593492

>have sub console specs

>fukken jap games playing like shit

>>15593551

It's not just japs literally all modern games have no regard for efficient data storage.

>>15593709

Optimization takes up valuable time that could be spent on rushing the game for an arbitrary release date. You can only force your programmers to do so many 100-hour work weeks before they start falling apart.

>>15593795

Storage space, get a fuckton of storage space before you even think about using them for anything else.

>>15593795

Storage space is king, you will need to farm the shit out of mats so you can't afford to lose them.

>>15593930

>the chopper is trash

you're trash kiddo

>>15593795

Thirding storage space. Go to the DH services menu and spend all the free death metal on bank slots. You're going to find a lot of high end materials before you start finding blueprints that can use them and unlock characters that can wield them. Bank slots are investments in your future.

>>15594541

It really is too slow and leaves you way too open. Damage is amazing upgraded but I would rather use the fucking shuriken to poison

>>15594669

if you know how to use the chopper its a guaranteed takedown

Hitler was wrong.

>Socialism (lol)

>Thule occult society

>Propped up by Illuminati bankers

>Believed in Darwinism/evolution myth

>Single-handedly made nationalism taboo for the next decades

>Worked with the Zionists to force the Jews to accept a new Israel

>>15594701

maybe on floor 20

>>15594729

hey faggot don't go adrift too far into the sea or you might fall off the edge of the plane!

kill yourself, cuck

>>15594796

Go drink more soy, omega male.

>>15594756

tl;dr

>"i can't time a simple 2 hit combo!"

>>15594729

>Socialism (lol)

nationalsocialism isn't the same as marxism. try again.

>Thule occult society

some of the early NSDAP members were from it, however hitler himself explicitly rejected secret societies, and the membership lists and attendence lists prove that hitler only ever went to a single meeting of them.

>Propped up by Illuminati bankers

blatant lie, which has never had a shred of evidence to back it up.

>Believed in Darwinism/evolution myth

he believed that the earth and various lifeforms were created by god, and began to evolve after that initial creation, so you're half-right.

>Single-handedly made nationalism taboo for the next decades

not his fault that the kikes used america, britain, and the soviets to ruin germany. he was morally correct in his actions, and the fact that the enemies he fought against disparage his name doesn't change this.

>Worked with the Zionists to force the Jews to accept a new Israel

he wanted the kikes out of germany, and didn't care where they went. it's a perfectly reasonable position; get them the hell out, wherever they end up going to.

so you're completely full of shit. go hang yourself.

hitler did nothin wrong.

Whats this game about? Explain

>>15594919

>hitler did nothin wrong.

I disagree. He really should have just killed them, guy was way too nice.

>>15594964

grinding. but fun grinding.

>>15595242

I've noticed fullscreen mode makes mine stutter but otherwise it always runs 60fps for me. how much RAM you have because this port is so shitty and the game is a memory hog

>>15592337

So is this game trash or not?

>>15595261

Its grindy but pretty fun once you start passing the difficulty cliffs through unlocking weapon mastery and crafting armour and weapon upgrades that can handle the stupid difficulty increase. Just abuse the online base raids for cash and shit you need

>>15595242

>when some nigga says he doesn't believe in the power of the mushroom

>>15593391

>>15594729

^^^ butthurt alaskafag

>>15594729

>>15594860

You jews aren't even trying anymore, that are you came fresh out of 4cuck

>>15595573

Huh? I like Hitler, I'm just saying the weapon shop dude ain't him.

>Alaska

I'm a fucking Okie

>>15595579

try to get the broom out of your ass one of these days and maybe you'll learn to take a joke

>>15594964

Fighting

Dying

Fighting some more

Buying another dude to go retrieve the previous fighter's corpse.

Dying again

Buying tokens with real money in order to not die anymore.

Never getting to floor 30 without assistance

That sort of shit.

>>15595511

It's by definition pay-to-win, I would agree that the storage space expansion, revival and R&D acceleration are as you describe but the fact that 10 DM Decal gacha guarantees 3* or higher it very obviously favoring spending money and there's no way around that. Even if it's a "bad investment" that doesn't change anything. Spending money on a freemium at all is a bad investment anything beyond that point can't be differentiated as such.

>>15594729

>>15594860

What even is this? A newfag trying to stir up a political shit storm or an incredibly poor attempt at "fitting in" by creating his own strawman post to respond to?

>>15595591

>It's by definition pay-to-win

No. It isn't. pay2win are those games that give you exclusive overpowered items ans boosts that give a profoundly imbalanced advantage over those who don't pay. In LID, buying things with real money only allows players to circumvent their inability to play wisely. All those things that you claim you need money for, I guarantee you that most (if not all) people in this thread did without spending a dime. You get handfulls of DMs just for logging in, plus you can also get them from quests or raids.

>>15595666

You are paying to have an advantage over other player's. It doesn't matter that all player's get access to the premium currency pay or not it's the fact that premium currency even exists and can be paid for that makes it pay-2-win. You could argue there are different grades of it but if you can pay for advantage it's pay-2-win.

Next you'll tell me gacha shit isn't pay-2-win because the game gives you free currency to pull anime waifu slot machine.

>>15595753

>trading heavy slow damage for heavy reliable damage

HMMMM I WONDER WHY I DONT USE IT

No, you can't even git gud in this game, dont even try that shit.

There is NO way to get where you want to go without buying tokens or waiting long enough for the GM to send you some in your mailbox.

This game is one step forward and about 3 steps back.

There is no way to just be good at the game.

The bullshit is always stacked against you and 9 times out of ten somebody has a character much higher level than you camping out in the low levels just waiting to kill off your next fighter when you're trying to grind in order to retrieve the corpse of your previous fighter.

Weapon durability should be buffed because shit is always breaking.

P2W jewry aside, this game would be a 9/10.

The soundtrack alone is a 10/10

>>15595779

Because you're bad at spacing and rely on weapons that don't need you to git gud?

>>15595898

YOU CAN'T GIT GUD

>>15596179

kill everyone in f2, this gets worse when you have to do multiple floors and there's no indication if you killed everyone

>>15596179

1. You have to kill everyone, this include other places. F1 has a water section where a Screamer drops from the ceiling so I'm assuming you missed that guy.

2. You have to kill everyone on F1 and F2 to complete the quest. It's the same for all the limit quests, you have to kill everything on the starting floor, in between floors, and the final floor.

>>15596220

>1. You have to kill everyone, this include other places

What the fuck, let me finish that sentence again.

>You have to kill everyone, this include other places like trap rooms and spawns that only happen when you walk past a certain trigger.

>>15596222

Yes, if you're doing the point a to point b quests, plan your route and kill everything in every floor on your path to point b. I think jackals adds to the enemy count but I'm not sure.

>>15596240

>game only just came out

>new weapon excitement

even a retard can see through this bullshit

>>15596240

You guys are approaching the whole "goy" thing with a bit too much zeal. You're applying it to everything at this point.

>looks like you made a typo, goy! Better press backspace, oy vey!

>>15596405

Don't spend it. You save it until you get Rank 6 fighters.

>>15596421

Aight, so is there anything to improve a lvl 25 character before defeating the first boss?

can someone explain to me what this game is? and also are free games on steam downloading slower or its just my drive bottlenecking

>>15596462

Once your character is leveled you start needing to upgrade gear. The Iron is a good weapon from the first 10 floors to upgrade so dump into that if you want. Other people have recommended hammer but I never really liked it much myself. If you're having trouble remember that Pumpkinshrooms are a full heal at health that low so stock up on them. Toughshrooms and Crushrooms are also things that are helpful for the boss. You'll also want to spend your gold on Decals because some are ludicrously broken and the sooner you get them the better.

finally got the fucking rocket launcher, it only took me 31 kills of that specific @charger

>>15596659

its the same except it hogs ram. not sure what to tell you. but you can always give it another try.

Best place to get guardshrooms?

>>15597798

anywhere above 31

>>15596406

>decal lottery

oh no I'm not even referring to that, I mean the goddamn death metals.

>>15598586

As far as what I know, never.

>>15598586

kc retrieval always caps at 250k

It feels pretty similar to Bloodbourne chalice dungeons, which I don't mind since it feels like an expanded version of it. I have noticed that my storage space keeps filling up pretty quickly with low end materials. So should I spend those mats and not horde them since I'm guessing when you hit the higher levels they don't get much use right?

>>15596479

I managed to get the 40% health buff decal (Heavy Tank) before I even hit the 10th floor kek

>>15598634

if that's the login bonus, what a waste

>>15598669

I don't know, it might of been. But why would it be a waste though?

(((uncle adolf)))

OY VEY

>>15598623

The fuck was he on in that video?

>>15598634

everyone got Heavy Tank as a login bonus, i hope you didn't waste it on a shitty low tier fighter

>>15599499

high tier fighters? 11800 is normal for a tier 5 or 6 all rounder, collector or defender.

>>15599689

What did you even get out of it?

>>15600697

if you contribute enough points to your teams score, you get huge rewards of coins, lithium, and even death metals (i think 2 max)

>>15600780

so what did ya do? Glint strategy or Pitching machine strategy?

>>15600789

are you MLGPROSUCKER?

>>15600799

No I'm not.

>>15600818

haven't met anyone else with a retarded name tbh

>>15600827

So I'm guessing that's a no huh? One can't change their name?

>>15600787

Literally just "got gud". Went from treating him like a screamer to treating him like a boss. Lots of hitting and running, lots of weapon testing, but in the end decided to see what the pitching machine did and it did WAY more damage than everything else combined. I think one single full volley would have killed him, even from full health.

>>15600843

what tier of pitching machine and on what difficulty? normal is piss easy compared to hard and nightmare

>>15600867

>normal

normal is pointless. it doesn't drop any materials, it doesn't drop any blueprints, it just drops coins and trash materials. except for that one quest that rewards you 1 DM its a waste of time.

>>15600909

completed 3 quests in the process and got the metal so it definitely wasn't a waste of time. No more a waste of time than the game itself, anyway.

>>15602233

>powerleveling

a waste of time, you're better off stalling the fighters by being absolutely annoying like having 9 fighters with motor psychos and having volcano decal for all of them

>>15602233

you might want to make defenders instead of all rounders. higher vit and higher HP means stalling the enemy for longer

>>15602237

>>15602259

Im talking about a more low level solution, ive been just dicking around sub F6 farming quests and getting a feel for the couple of weapons I found so far, other than ganking that is.

>>15602264

not much point in base defense when you're outside of highest tier, thats because players with higher tier fighters can invade you anyways and they will always destroy your guys

>>15602237

>pass off gold critters from login to 3 star lvl 1s to kill

>max out hp, vit and stam with plenty of change

I have no use for the critters save for their mushrooms, I hope I'm not making too much of a mistake.

>>15602283

some cunts keep raiding my shit and at this point I just want to make raiding my ass as miserable as possible for as many people as possible, disregarding high level autists

>>15602302

well, if you're under floor 6, thats not gonna be possible. but as you progress and get good decals and good weapons it'll be very possible.

Super volcano and Golem decals are great ways to make invaders lifes hard, combine S.Volcano with weapons that have really annoying rage moves like the rocket launcher, the motor psycho, the KAMAS assault rifle and the DUKE sniper rifle and you'll annoy a good chunk of people.

>>15602333

Speaking of decals, premium decals are never lost and can be switcharood indefinitely, correct?

>>15602345

yep

Is there any good ways to kill pillbugs other than stomping till they're stunned, then switching and stomping with a weapon with a weapon stomp attack?

>>15602365

fist strong attack. you just need to get at the right distance. the hit box actually goes all the way to the ground.

>>15602365

Stomp from behind the pillbug, if you mess it up the stomp: grab the pillbug by crouching and move away to drop the pillbug.

Once stunned, lock onto the pillbug, step back a bit and strong fist attack.

>>15602293

critters aren't too useful to eat and you're better off stomping on them, save gold ones when you need to make newer higher graded fighters to bulk up their hp and vit stat as soon as possible

>>15602389

>act like a nigger

>be amazed that mark bans you

What a fucking revelation that must be.

>>15602365

Shoot them with a ranged weapon that isn't fire-based. I usually use the Glinty Magnum, which I keep on hand mainly for snails on the walls. You can either use the lock on (T on pc) or aim if it's 2 handed.

Of course, sometimes that still doesn't work.

>>15602413

I've noticed the magnum likes to go way off center at times, even when aiming. It feels like it doesn't even register as a hit.

>>15602365

You can just punch it if you lock on and L1/R1 it nigger

>>15600701

>even death metals (i think 2 max)

North Dakota just beat some Japanese prefecture and I was over 1/3 of the points on the team, I got 3 DM for that.

>>15602512

>>15600701

For every 2000 team points, you get one death medal.

>>15602542

Alaska has more people than any other team, probably because it's the first on the list for team choices, plus people choosing to join the biggest team.

>>15602554

i know, thats the reason i joined. i want them fucking death metals

>>15602563

Sadly my TDM rank is too high for my character power level because I've been raiding to grind money/SPL. I have basically no hope of winning most of the fights I get assigned in a team battle.

>>15602618

>>15602523

at this point im pretty sure its proportional. you earn more DM as you get a higher % of the total points. if we knew what those percentages are we could calculate how many DM's we're gonna get before we get them.

>>15602631

So theoretically you should get more DM in smaller teams, or only if your team wins?

>>15602632

no idea really, this is just pure speculation

I know if you lose during a team battle raid you are disqualified from doing further raids in that battle, but do you still get rewards based on the fight points you already earned, or do you just lose everything?

>>15603327

Still get rewards based on how much you contributed.

>>15603417

Good, this is exactly the kind of game to fuck you like that and I've already spent like 2-3 hours getting over 10k fight points (50+ fights), I'd hate to lose it all because I picked a fight with someone stronger than me.

Imagine I'm a fucking idiot, never played the game but wanted to give it a go and drop 50 fucking american dollars on it. Is that enough to skip the worst part of the grinding (assuming I git gud fast enough)?

I already know what awaits me if I don't put money in it and I'm not interested.

>>15603458

>>15603417

if YOU lose an invasion, either by retreat or death, you don't get ANYTHING. i said it here >>15602542

you get more rewards for having your team lose the battle without you having been disqualified than you do if you lose an invasion and your team wins, because the reward of that is jackshit, zero, nada.

>>15603716

You are a fucking idiot for even considering that with anything, but it won't even help. Let's look at what you get for the $50 platinum pack

>100 death metals

DM is the pay currency, they are pretty rare in game and it's doubtful you could get 100 for free in less than several months (they charge $.50 per normally). But what can you get with them?

You can revive on the spot, which is mostly a waste of money since you can still buy back your fighter and everything you had on him for normal currency. DM revives are only worthwhile if you are about to hit a major milestone (kill a boss, reach certain floors etc), you can probably manage that with free DM.

You can upgrade your storage. 2DM gives you 10 slots. That's what I've been spending all my free DM on so far. An extra 500 slots for your $50 isn't bad, but it's not what you are looking for

You can buy from a random assortment of blueprints and materials, both are fucking expensive (8+ for individual materials, 12-24 for blueprints). You cannot actually craft any of this shit early in the game, because you can't even by all the necessary materials with DM, you STILL have to climb first.

For 10DM you can buy one random preimum decal of 3 star quality or higher. Rare and potentially useful, but not game changing. You'll probably end up with something like +20% health

>50000 Kill Coins

A lot to start with, but you'll easily get this much on your own. It's enough to buy one full random premium decal (1 star or better), you'll probably have this 5 times over before you face the first real boss. There's nothing to buy with it right when you start either, other than the decal.

>1 "return to lobby" item

Shit

>1 full heal consummable

even shittier

>"Ultimate Fighter"

A decal, +10% to all stats. I assume/hope it's premium and not regular (regular decals are lost when removed or when you don't pay either currency to revive)

>3 tier one weapons

You'll break these in 20 minutes or less, and they aren't even that good even starting out.

>Express pass

$15 value, a one-month "subscription". It's actually pretty nice. You get a random premium decal every day, free elevator service (elevators don't cost much anyway), a 30% discount on revives, you lose no money when someone raids you, and most importantly; +10 slots to your bag no matter which character you are using (default bag has 20 slots, this includes your currently equipped weapons/armor).

You'll get several 1-day passes as random free login bonuses or other rewards. Probably to get you hooked.

>>15603857

>You get a random premium decal every day

you get a random normal decal everyday, not a premium one. these random normal decals are usually one of 7 specific decals that don't really help you much in the long run. ie: +40% exp, +40% killcoins, +40% SPL, +40% weapon exp, or -20% weapon durability loss (probably the best one)

what i mean by this is, its not that you can get any random normal decal in the game, you get a couple of specific ones everyday.

did i mention they are NORMAL and hence once you put them on a fighter, you cannot remove them without losing them? yeah. the biggest benefit of the express subscription is using the gold elevator, which is free, instead of having to payperuse on the pleb elevator.

>>15603874

The biggest benefit is +10 bag space. The elevator is cheap enough for at least the first 30 floors, don't know what it costs after that.

>>15599115

tier 4 is good enough I assume, it'll be quite some time before I can unlock tier 5, and by the time I have tier 6 I'll probably have a premium verison.

>>15603857

>25% of initial investment for ONE BLUEPRINT and without mats

>10% of initial investment for a passive

What the fuck. Even Warframe isn't this Jewish.

What about Cosmetic shit?

>>15603941

Tier 5 is unlocked on 35 and I'm struggling to get through 25 even with a maxed out tier 4. It'll be a long time and a lot of grinding before I get through those last 10 floors.

>>15603945

You can dress up your waiting room (which attacking players see) for 1-6 DM per object. It's not horribly priced, but why would you do this?

>>15603945

because you're supposed to climb and farm, not buy your way to power.

>>15603984

Well fuck, time to channel my inner Korean then.

>>15603976

What's the point of being rich if you can't display it and rub it smugly on the pleb's faces?

>Yeah, you raided and took some coins.

>Feel free to take many more, I'm rich, I don't give a shit.

>>15603952

The puke ion cannon thing has an odd call sign, but it also roots her in place and she can't turn. Can easily murder her when she does it.

>>15604517

Except that the aoe is much wider than the graphic suggests. If you are anywhere near her in melee range she hits you except maybe directly behind her.

The game has been out for a few years now, isn't it time to make DMs easier to earn in-game?

So I just discovered that the Long Sword S uses almost 4x the durability per hit as the regular longsword (+4). -60 vs -17. Kind of ridiculous for something that's supposed to be an upgrade. Are higher tier weapons usually like this?

>>15604837

Tested it myself yes, the Long Sword S is apparently made of glass

>>15604883

Long Sword S is the 2nd tier of the Long Sword.

do you mean the Long Sword RE? the one that looks neon green?

>>15604915

I know it's the second tier of longsword, it's 3rd tier as far as materials go (black metals/pile of bolts)

>>15604925

>>15604925

i haven't really noticed that, but i'll keep an eye out.

>>15604934

Just hit a wall and see how much your weapon degrades (go to your death bag, select the weapon and press the switch display button to see exact durability)

>>15604925

it seems to consume 30 durability per hit on my end.

i think you hit 2 things at the same time hence the -60, but yeah, it definitely consumes durability faster.

>>15604950

You're right, it's doing 30 now too. Still almost double.

>>15604955

well, im gonna go out on a limb here and assume that all melee weapons with double element function the same way. its because you hit once with Slash, and once with fire proportional to the damage of the slash, that also has the added effect of putting a short DoT effect on the enemy.

because the Dragon Buster sword (sword tier 3) has no fire element and it consumes 17 durability a hit.

>>15605051

I kind of expected that, but if it were just that it would be consuming 34 per strike. I'm thinking maybe they just made fire weapons more fragile because they are on fucking fire.

>get a poison eater premium

>suddenly shurikens tickle on raids

I got to get more of these so i can throw them on my defenders

>>15605334

I've been playing super cautiously after hitting jackson, but I've also been distracted by TDM and trying to maintain my SPL and KC. On F23, need to hit 25 so I can get 4 star fighters and not get farmed by rank 70+ faggots.

>>15605334

i stopped climbing at 37 for now, trying to develop a weapon with 2k+ attack to have an easy time up to Chudo so i can unlock the rank 6 guys.

im in no hurry really. just develop a few new weapons everyday and you'll get up there eventually.

>>15605334

I haven't been playing that long, but I see I'm going to be on 25 for a long time building up weapons

>>15605405

you just need to know what to do, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays is moving store day. on these days, the moving shop will 99% surely be in either Omoki (3F) or Yukiyoshi (27F), so you can go and buy rare materials like colored metals and tuber metals, but thats not all, during these days, the 3F and 27F moving store will sell materials of an area above them in addition to the basic stuff they sell for the area you find the store in.

this means essentially that Omoki 3F will sell Blue and Green metals, and yukiyoshi 27F will sell black and red metals. so, pick one set of armor you like and two or three weapons that you really fancy and focus on developing those exclusively, grind the coins necessary and go buy all the metals you need.

the store refreshes its supply of stuff every hour or so, so just to be sure give it 90 minutes or so (and maybe a trip back and forth the waiting room) between shopping trips.

>>15605334

I'm stuck at floor 40 boss, I pondering on whether to go for striker with red hot iron or shooter with the flamethrower, get superhero, dumb bell, +10% fire premium, stack another +10% fire and use 2 guardshrooms.

>>15605463

Sounds nice for getting ahead, but farming level-appropriate materials is far more efficient than farming KC to buy said materials. Right now I need about a million iron bolts, I don't even care about black metals, I'm getting plenty from the gold chest in my farm route for bolts.

>>15605334

20-35 was a fucking slog. im stymied at 35-40 area just because i need to have like a 2 hour block to be able to explore the areas and get to the next elevator. this game is not for people who have a busy schedule

>>15605591

you can't farm red metals until the Gunkayima area. if you haven't defeated Crowley, the only way to get red metals is the machine (with DMs or recycle points) or the gyakufunsha store. so you'll want to at least go buy a couple of red metals, to get 3rd tier gear before crowley.

>>15605642

definitely not, those people should stick to phone games and gachashit.

When it comes to premium decals, if your fighter gets haterfied, and you remove him, or recyle him and the decals are equipped, do you get the decals back or do you have to manually peel them to keep them?

>>15605716

4th tier* blue, green, black, red. But I'd also need Steel and other 4th tier materials, and im still working on leveling through third tier.

>>15605748

it sells those too, read what i said.

materials of an area above the one you find the store in during that day. that includes steel/walnut/mineral oil/etc.

>>15605951

im near gunkayima and my fists are still level 14, fug

>>15605990

Its a long grind, but having your fists as powerful as possible helps a ton in a pinch early on.

>>15605998

its more useful on the fourth/final boss

>>15605999

>ywn get to fight the real giant final boss that uncle death had prepared for you

>>15606376

jesus, where'd all the blood come from? did they have a guard boss?

>>15606532

>microsecond

Maybe at high tier equipment, lower tiers hes still a nuisance.

i underestimated gunkayama from getting used to doing him weekly with a tier 6 fighter on the ps4.

well, rip my 250k, i'll be more prepared next time.

So, Alaska vs France, I had 13247 fight points out of 1473293 for the team. I earned 127k KC/SPL and 3 DM.

>>15607233

Don't judge a raid by their raiding rank (bronze through diamond), judge it by their numeric rank. I could be off by +-2, but 32 means a Tier 3 fighter, 47 means a Tier 4 fighter, and anything significantly higher than that is potentially tier 5 or 6. You can easily sort the raid list by rank and only target people who have lower tier fighters than you, and you should be able to find tier 3s in diamond.

>>15607249

It's a flat 15 for the highest tier fighter they have, an additional point for how many of the same tier fighters they have (including itself).

example:

>1 tier 2 fighter = 16

>5 tier 2 fighters = 20

>2 tier 3 fighters = 46

>>15607345

I sort of understand what you are trying to say, but your numbers don't make any sense. Also I know that Tier 3 fighters don't reach into the 40s so I'm guessing that's a typo.

Could you try explaining again? Is it something like (Max Tier -1)*15 + (number at max tier)?

>>15607384

Pretty sure tier 3 do reach to 46 (2 tier 3 fighters is actually 47)

as 1 tier 1 fighter only adds one point.

Sometimes the player who's rank 61 (1 tier 5 fighter) doesn't have a tier 5 fighter defending because he's playing that tier 5 fighter.

1 tier 6 fighter is 76 points.

10 tier 6 fighter is 86 points.

>>15607391

Nope, it's 2 tier 4 fighters at 47. I would know, because that's exactly what I have.

>>15607406

The accent and grammar are so bad I couldn't tell that the lyrics were 100% English. Obviously I could hear let it die/you shall die but most of the rest I thought she was swapping back and forth between English and Japanese like they so commonly do in songs.

Anyway, it sounds like I had the formula exactly right, which is kind of impressive given the gibberish way you presented it with half wrong information. What you could have said is "It's +15 for each fighter tier after the first and an additional point for each fighter you have at max tier including the first fighter"

>>15606972

Germany has been doing pretty good lately on PS4 as well (I don't know if there is cross play). The last battle with with some Jap state was 600+ raids to 35.

>>15606925

Could be he was busy raiding non-stop. I did that for hours yesterday.

>>15606972

>(1000)

>2DM

Fucking hell did I waste my time getting over 13000 points.

>>15592337

>unable to recieve the SPLithium because you have reached the max amount

WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY FUCKING LOOTBAG I AM AT 0/320000 SP?!

>>15607206

i got around 3150 points, 64k KC/spl and 2DM.

not bad i guess, i usually just stop invading after a certain point because i know the more i invade, the more chances i'll beef it and end up getting nothing

>>15607989

>>15607972

I was fighting people who had at best tier 3 fighters with my own Tier 4 (all in the 30-35 rank range), I wasn't really in any danger of losing.

fuck, i just found out i can open a map with down on dpad. so much wasted time navigating

>>15608254

Try restarting, but sometimes the connection is just shit.

>>15608718

already closed the game twice and restarted my router once, the problem is the game not me.

Does the game run like absolute shit on PC for anyone else? When I load in to the lobby after I start the game, it outright freezes for a couple of minutes until it slowly stutters to life. I'm thinking it's because of my CPU, but I've seen people with worse computers run it just fine.

>>15608773

Its the RAM. I get over 12gig usage when running the game.

>>15608802

My PC only has 8 and runs fine

>>15608827

Yeah, I have 8, and it just does not run.

>>15608840

Well it might also be your hard drive deteriorating now that I think about it, DL a scanner tool and scan for dead sectors.

I feel like there are 3 types of raid defense: Not even trying, Overpowered as fuck, and "I won't win but I'm going to burn off all your armor". So at this point I've given up wearing armor on raids at all, either I run into type 1 or type 2 and it doesn't matter, or I run into a type 3 and even if I lose I probably saved more money than I would have earned.

>>15608405

You can also turn on the radio while in the tower too and that there is different stations. I believe the first station plays all songs.

>>15609884

Note that you can only turn it on, off, or change station while in the waiting room. It stays on in the tower after that but you can't change it until you come back.

Is the lock on total dogshit or is it part of some sort of retarded meta? If I try to roll to the side after a defender rushes me I'll just do a semi circle behind him and get hit by whatever follow up he does, normally killing me in 1 hit. Also doesn't help when it would rather lock on to a scraper instead of the defender, despite the scraper being some odd distance behind the defender or even to the side. I've found myself using it less and less because of how retarded it behaves.

>>15611025

lock on is only good when using 1h ranged weapons

>>15611025

lock on rolls are so fucking bad and rolling in general is bad, running around baiting attacks is better

I've got my weapons for now. Is there any exceptionally good armor I should work on in floors 20-30 or are they all more or less the same as long as they have a tier for those floors?

>>15611371

full diy armor, easy to upgrade and it's only weakness is piercing

>>15611473

DIY armor doens't have a tier for floors 20-30. It goes from Wire mountain (tier 2) to Red metal/steel (tier 4)

having a really hard time finding silver skillshrooms, are there any specific floors where they are more common? inb4 metakojiya. that floor is bullshit because all of the skillshroom spawns get stepped over by the halloween event and the summer event.

>>15611742

>all of the skillshroom spawns get stepped over by the halloween event and the summer event.

That might explain why I've found hardly any skillshrooms at all. I've found one bronze on the boss floor 10 and one silver somewhere between 20 and 30, also one silver from lost bags. That's all I've seen so far.

Meanwhile, pumpkinshrooms have been a godsend for keeping my health up. The Bronze is 600 which is a full heal for the first 15 floors. Silver is 3000 and Gold is 9000 hp, so those still full heal me. The rage gauge buildup is secondary, I don't use rage moves that often because they degrade like 3 kills worth of weapon durability.

>>15611829

reading your post made me realize my post answered itself.

if the pumpkinshrooms can step over any mushroom spawn, why wouldn't they step over skillshroom spawns in every area instead of just metakojiya? that must be why i can't find jackshit.

There are seasonal shrooms all year round. The shroom floor is just an increased chance.

>>15611839

hahahahaha

>>15607406

fuck you, that song is garbage.

>>15613261

its a 100%, not an increased chance, and its for skillshrooms, not seasonal shit.

the seasonal shrooms just step over that, so instead of getting 4-5 skillshrooms per visit to metakojiya which is how the floor should work, because its what the weekly rotation fucking says, you get a randomly selected set of skillshrooms and seasonal shrooms. so lets say you want gold skillshrooms to craft a weapon, you end up wasting thrice the amount of time, and have to make thrice the trips back and forth because the skillshrooms can get randomly replaced by seasonal ones, which is quite an annoyance when a weapon needs 3 silver skillshrooms or 3 gold skillshrooms to advance.

I hate it when I can't leave a raid because there are capturable fighters but the train door isn't even even open yet and my bathroom is full anyway

>>15613459

You can skip taking fighters I thought

>>15613958

Only by exiting via the train. When I clear the place in 45 seconds and have to sit and wait for the doors to open, it's not a big deal but it just turns what should be a good thing into an annoyance

Should I bother playing the game any more? I think the whole climb to floor 200 is a big meme.

>>15613958

you can but you need the train door to open, and that only happens at 1:30

not like its a problem, i've invaded hundreds of times at this point and only ever captured 3 fighters, i never get the "unconscious" status on enemy fighters when invading.

>>15613981

the floor just repeats on 51+, they're supposedly endless. so up to you i guess? i mean to be fair, the game has no more "story" beyond floor 41.

After that, you're pretty much keeping the planet alive by entertaining death with your gaming until the day you die IRL.

>>15613993

I guess I'm just lucky, because I've legitimately managed to fill up my 4-cell bathroom a couple times

>>15614000

Also when they do go unconscious it's usually multiple in the same raid, but you can only take one. That's probably normal though

>>15614083

IF you can beat her today, there's a route around 34 coen to get to 35 and unlock the next tier. The route only exists Saturday and tuesday.

>>15611025

I got all the way to floor 12 without realizing lock on existed and when I started to use it I got worse. It's really fucking dogshit. I'd say it's partially useful for circle strafing enemies with guns or helping you when you have a gun but otherwise it's garbo.

>>15614100

you're not supposed to be locked on at all times, only when you're going to do an attack that requires it. its not dark souls you pleb, get used to playing without lock-on

>>15614100

It has some other utility like hitting beasts and flyers, otherwise yeah. You move so much slower and your dodge is fucked

>>15614100

press up to change targets, yeah it's bad

>>15614102

I'm at floor 26 right now, and as I said, I got all the way to 12 without even knowing lock on existed so I just assumed aiming was always key anyway. I just don't use it anymore unless as >>15611063 said I have a one handed range weapon for lazy damage.

>>15614103

>You move so much slower

This is what kills it for me. You just walk so fucking slow it's ridiculous.

>>15614106

I don't even think I'll bother but I'll keep that in mind.

>>15614095

Well I did beat her cus I got pissed used 3 roasted guardshooms and a golden stingshroom then death burned the shit out of her.

Then I got beat Coen despite needing 2 death metals due to him one shotting me.

but whatever I still fucking did it.

>>15614083

I died like 5 times to U-10. When I beat her, I used a death metal to revive. Died 2 more times to the haters before her since they're 13k hp 5 star fighters.

This video helps.

>>15614131

Nice, I beat U10 with a bunch of shit including slowmungus and the rage attack off an axe of destruction, but then I got fucked by surprise coen and spent the last several hours recovering, now I'm planning to try U10 again and go the long way to avoid Coen, just to unlock the next tier.

>>15614131

Remember that pillbugs on dead drop shrooms that restore 25% when killed/ 50% when grilled

>>15614146

>>15614150

>eat a stingshroom

>eat a transparagus

>blast her with BASEBALLS

>dies in less than 40 baseballs

you guys played wrong, but remember that pain and that joy of winning because its what makes the game so fun

>>15614152

Can't find transparagus at all, and it would take several (guides say 4). Slowmungus though I seem to find easily.

>>15614151

yeah I actually had ate a gold lifeshroom before he still blasted me though, but I got my 5th Tier fighter now so things should be cool now.

>>15614155

>4

u-10 is a <30 second boss fight even with a t4 fighter. you just need to farm a couple of pitching machines in the floors before, a stingshroom (real is better) and at least one transparagus.

if you're going to use Rib fungus instead, just remember that the rib fungus does not make you fully invisible until 4 seconds into the mushroom's effect. so if you enter immediately after eating the shroom, she's gonna see you.

>>15614182

whatever, I just killed her again with slowmo. I was lucky she tried to laser off the start though.

>>15614192

A single slomungus and 2 rage moves that is

>>15614194

>>15614192

Ok the tip I had about going around Coen is false, but how the hell am I supposed to beat him anyway?

>>15614205

Bait him, then punish.

He has a very predictable moveset, and he detects you by sound because he's blind. (Same reason invisibility doesn't work against him.)

>>15614146

>punishing

Why do people have the need to turn basic terms into something else?

>>15614333

What are you on about, seems like he's using it properly, just like >>15614254

>>15614347

Attack. Thats what it is; Attack. Punish is retarded and sounds arrogant.

>>15614333

>>15614356

its proper terminology. punish is attacking after baiting, or getting attacked after falling for bait.

>>>reddit

>>15614395

>proper terminology

No, its retooled language that has no reason to exist other to make the youtuber/streamer feel smarter for using it over attack.

>>15614395

Not necessarily bait, that's where bait and punish is, but punishing in general is attacking after any kind of mistake.

>>15614407

And for fighting games, not these kinds of engagements. This is a scripted encounter, there are no mistakes here only windows of opportunity.

>>15614416

On a technical level these kinds of games are fundamentally identical to fighting games against AI, and the terminology doesn't change whether you are fighting human or AI opponents.

>>15614416

Why would terminology differentiate between a human opponent and AI? There's not much difference between a human "missing" and an AI screamer in this game "missing" as it leads to the same result.

If punish isn't the correct word is bait not the correct word either?

>>15614437

what katana is that? t4?

>>15614441

7 stars, pretty sure that's more than t4.

So how tough is 35-41? Should I settle in for the long haul building up a tier 5 army, or put a minimum effort into tier 5 and rush for the tier 6 all rounder?

>>15614449

i've never even seen that weapon, where the hell do you even get a bp for that?

>>15614464

Searching says floor 50+

>>15614465

damn, there are even more weapons up there? the grind never ends

>>15614509

wew, they're probably incredibly OP, but then again the powercreep in tengoku gets kinda ridiculous too.

Coen can one-shoot you with the radar wave unless you block it. thats absolute fucking bullshit but i've seen it in a video. its real.

>>15614542

can you still b8 goto with shrooms up there?

>>15614547

I didn't try, but now that you mention it, maybe I will.

>>15614542

>U-10 and Jin-Die are by far the most threatening mid-bosses, as usual.

>As Usual

U-10 I'll give you, she's the toughest from the start and generally requires either some kind of cheese or perfect knowledge and execution. I'm not surprised that Jin-Die becomes one of the toughest mid bosses at higher levels, but that isn't "as usual". Her first two appearances are a complete pushover. GOTO 9 on floor 23 is the hardest boss by far prior to floor 30

>>15614603

>GOTO 9 on floor 23 is the hardest boss by far prior to floor 30

Jin-Die absolutely curb stomped me on 26 but that's probably because my stats were shit at the time with collector. GOTO 9 was completely manageable if tedious.

>>15614624

I used collector only until I unlocked tier 4, Jin-Die simply wasn't a threat, just a nuisance to get close to.

>>15614631

I used only collector and still use only collector as tier 4 and she's till far harder than GOTO 9

>>15614635

Well I guess I did manage to just gank her with an axe rage move on that floor. Goto 9 on 23 was where I had to figure out the hard way to use the axe rage move to murder bosses.

>>15614685

alaska with 6000 people is losing to tokyo with 400 people by like 300k points.

i just dont understand TDM anymore

so this game is fun, right?

>>15614603

>throw crushrooms

>win

He'll slam face first into a wall when he eats one, giving you a massive window to attack him.

>>15615724

actually yea this game does look pretty fun I think ill give it a try

>>15615724

its fun for at least 2-3 days

after that the grind starts, if you can stomach the grind its fine, if you cant the game will be unplayable

>>15615740

what type of grind is it? I'm currently downloading it over steam. is it the type where you just monotonously play the same levels over and over again?

>>15615744

you can play the levels in different ways, but yeah, you gotta play samey levels repeatedly to grab materials around the place, bring them back, and develop better weapons and armor.

>>15615744

its not really monotonous, the tilesets are mostly similar but theres a satisfaction in using the tiles geometry to your advantage

what I would describe LIDs grind as would be "high risk low reward"

>>15615724

I always recommend that people play it to floor 20 and see if they like it. Every 10 floors, the difficulty curve really ramps up. Usually people will quit around floor 13/14 if they don't like it since that's where a huge spike is.

>>15615936

And then by 23 you realize your weapons are breaking faster than you can buy them and you can't rely on enemy drops anymore. That's when the real "difficulty" comes in.

>>15615997

decal events only apply to premium stew. if you buy regular stew then you just had good luck.

>>15615997

>Collab event decals

So basically hardcore P2W shit. No way you are earning enough DM in game to buy good ones of those unless you are just stupidly lucky

>>15616008

It's not that hard to save up DMs when a collab event is coming. The devs always let you know ahead of time.

>>15616067

>its not hard to save up dms

its hard, borderline impossible, to get them. even if you did every single quest in the game that gives DMs you'd get at most 50ish DMs.

now, fights, whats the max amount of DM you can even get in a fight (after winning mind you, you dont get jackshit if your country team loses or if you get disqualified), like 3? that means you'd need to win 4 fights to be able to buy 1 decal during the event. and fights only happen very rarely, like maybe you get 3 fights in a week, tops.

so you must have had to either buy DMs or saved them up for half a year before the event to get all those rare decals. dont give me that "lol its ez bruh just save them" bullshit.

>>15616172

Well, 3 fights in a week, 3dm in a fight, and how many months between collab events? It seems reasonable that you could afford 2 or 3 decals each time, but that's where my statement that you need insane luck to pull anything good off of your 2-3 rolls.

>>15615972

That's why the drill is one of the best weapons in the game. Think it's level 5 where you get it's heavy attack which does a lot of damage and because the weapon is built for many low damage hits, it has extremely high durability if you just use the heavy attack.

>>15616336

Good to know, I guess I'll give that a try.

>>15616289

Glad I left Alaska, though I mainly left because I wanted to be able to raid the 5000+ noobs on Alaska myself, I was having difficulty finding viable targets. Now I'm on Akita. The team has a perfect record with 11, soon to be 12 wins and only over 80 members (I swear it was lower when I joined).

>>15616336

How does it scale later though? The top tier I'm seeing on the wiki doesn't show very promising numbers.

Alright, got to level 14 today, second day playing, I think it's going alright.

Got a Rank 2 collector named Stalker to farm up shit for my second rank 2 figher, and those Priests robes are absolutely glorious.

Quick question I haven't figured out yet: if my team is fighting another team, how do I find oponents from the enemy team? When I open the raid menu, it picks like 30 fags at random and most of the time, there's none on the other team.

This is important, we're fighting North Korea now, and those gooks got enough gold farmers playing they might represent a threat.

I also popped a Sniper Rifle rage move a few minutes ago and my dick as never been this hard before. The gore kill is fantastic aswell.

>>15616469

There should be a tab for that. During a teamfight there is an extra fight tab in addition to the standard Random, Revenge, Rescue and Favorite (if you selected a favorite team) tabs.

Note that the Fight tab does NOT re-generate, you can only fight the people listed once each, as many or as few of them as there are, and of course if you lose a fight from that tab you are out. (I'm still not sure if you keep your score and can win DMs if you are out or not, I'm getting conflicting answers in this thread and I certainly don't want to test it)

>>15616484

> as many or as few of them as there are

Wouldn't that mean bigger teams have a very big advantage?

>80 vs 10

>each team can raid 800 times

>that means everyone on the first team has to raid 10 times each and everyone on the second team has to raid 80 times each

Seems like smaller teams would only win if they were some autistic gook-grinding fuckers.

Also, is there any suit of armor that looks like a Tuxedo? I like style and when I saw the Jackals I thought "Oh fuck, I wanna wear YOU".

Yeah, I know they're hardcore shit way out of my league for the next month or maybe even more.

>>15616484

>>15616552

if you invade and get your ass kicked or run away, you are essentially disqualified from the fight. no DMs, no KC, no SPL, you get nothing.

>>15616557

Yes you are the same person who said that earlier. Someone else said otherwise, neither of you have offered proof, so conflicting answers.

>>15616552

I suspect there's some kind of balancing factor, or else there's no way Alaska would have lost ever, let alone twice. Maybe the smaller team gets more points per raid?

>>15616557

If you lose a raid you just can't contribute anymore. I still got a DM after getting rolled by a faggot with a higher gear tier than overall rank.

>>15616582

probably, i'd have to quit alaska and join a smaller team for a few weeks to verify such a thing.

but going by memory, from the PS4 version, there's no such thing.

>>15616573

well, i didnt take screenshots, but during one of the wins of alaska, i remember i invaded someone that was a bit more i could chew, i got disqualified, and when the battle was over i didnt even get a reward screen.

>>15616719

i got nothing the last time i lost an invasion, i didnt even get a fight results screen when the fight ended

>>15616708

He might've killed himself with a drill or hocketstick rage move as he finished off your tank.

>>15616800

Pretty sure he survived since its 100% destruction.

>>15616811

I did it before, 100% destruction and died from a close firework rage move on the final tank.

>>15616814

Still doesn't explain why the hell would he bother attacking me when he nearly got nothing out of it.

>>15616826

There's always the generic rank bonus for Gold and SP right?

>>15616859

yeah, but it should be around 10-12k. Which in turn would apply to other fatter targets, making attacking low value targets like me uneconomical.

>>15616814

Oh yeah, I can confirm that. I did it with an assault rifle rage move after munching some +damage shrooms blew myself to smithreens along with their bank. Technically, 100% destruction, but I won nothing. Funnily enough, the result screen said "Victory" and the awards were 0 each.

I can also confirm >>15616557 because after this "Victory" I stopped getting the screen to select raid targets in my team's current fight. That's why I was confused back here >>15616469 since I remembered seeing it there, invading someone and then it wasn't there anymore.

Word of warning: I think I didn't raid an oposing team member, just some random faggot (that keeps trying to raid me).

If what happened is what I think, even a failed raid against someone unrelated to the fight takes you out of it, aparently.

Also, quick question: is "labbo-guy, labbo-girl, labbo-buddy" an NPC or Tutorial version of TDM?

Because it was the first guy I fought and a couple hours ago, I saw a "rescue" tab, hit up the target there and there was "labbo-guy" in the bathroom. I thought it was funny I robbed that guy and then later rescued him, but it occured me that with those names, maybe it's an NPC? The rescue target had 2000 KC and 2000 SPL so maybe there's non-player raid targets?

I'll also repeat the question: is there armour that looks like a Tuxedo or not? I want to james bond up the place.

>>15616981

Yeah, the labbo faggots are the freebie tutorial raids. Maybe you liberated him from someone else?

>>15616885

He's only rank 61, meaning he just got his tier 5 and hasn't even had time to level up a second tier 5. I assume you are somewhere in the 40s yourself. He's targetting low ranks to farm KC from the reward bonus. It's very rare to find a low rank player in diamond with more than 2000 KC you can take, so it's faster just to raid as many targets as possible without caring about how much they have.

That's exactly what I do btw, I raid back to back, it takes about a minute to clear the raid, plus another minute in load screens, so 10k KC in 3 minutes is well worth it to me.

>>15616984

Jackal Z's armor is literally a white tuxedo. but the material cost to make it is astronomically high and the stats are garbage.

>>15616770

The other argument is based on how many people are available to raid. A large team vs a small team, the large team has many people who can only raid a few people, while the small one has a few people who can raid a lot of people each.

Imagine a one man team vs Alaska. 5000 players, only a fraction of which will ever raid and those that do might not be ABLE to raid you for one reason or another. Vs you, you only have to raid once for every time you get raided and you have a wide variety of targets to pick from.

>>15617437

No, there isn't.

Do lucky stars get higher drop rate?

Farming M.I.L.K Black Metals are a pain in the dick.

>>15617479

No one knows for sure, half will tell you yes the other no. Although it's the luck stat specifically not the class.

Also, boss metals seem to drop about 70% of the time don't they?

>>15617484

Those metal only appear in trap room's treasure chests as far as I know, also I'm too weak to defeat consistently the GOTO-9 in floor 23 specially when some faggot keeps sending me his fucking lvl 100 hunter with 6 stars armor

>>15617497

Oh I didn't pay attention to MILK specifically. Yeah it's a pain but higher drop wouldn't help there anyway since you are mostly just fighting the 1 in 4 "which metal will you get". There's maybe a 20% chance to get nothing (KC) or a lower tier metal instead

>>15617479

>>15617497

Best way to get MILK black black is going to the travelling shop on the days where he's guaranteed to be on floor 27. The merchant sells em.

It's a good idea to learn which metal/color combos have to be farmed from chests, so you know which ones to buy from the travelling shop.

>>15617546

Meh, just farm the chest on 22 kawabe. You need a TON of iron bolts anyway, and Kawabe is the easiest (lowest level+high drop) place to get them, so you have to farm that anyway

>>15617437

kek, thats hilarious. good job anon.

>>15617479

no. buy them at gyakufunsha on the event rotation days

>finnaly find one of the Forceman

>shit, it's free the first time and penalty if I die? Count me in!

>fucker comes up

>Jojo-tier pose

>fucking lightning everywher

>FUCK YEAH, THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME

>dodge his first atack

>GOT YOU NOW, BITCH

>hit him

>1 Dmg

>lol wut, that can't be right

>he hits me

>explode in 18.000 damage bits everywhere

I got flashbacks to the skeletons in Dark Souls. It's been a while since a game told me "You're in the wrong neighborhood, motherfucker." this hard. Shiiiiieeeeeet.

I guess these guys are only for the Rank 5 or 6 fighters then? It said "Hard" on the menu, so I'm guessing the Nightmare versions will rape my face and do it with a smile.

>>15617638

I think normal is a LOT weaker. I can't say for sure, but I think I remember normal white steel *only* hitting my tier-1 fighter for ~600. That's still a one-hit kill, but if I'm right that means I could completely dominate him now. I don't really care to test that at the moment though.

>>15617638

you won't even scratch hard until you have tier 6 fighters. and nightmare requires not only top tier fighters but also top tier gear, decals, and a strategy because you only have 3 minutes before the stage kills you.

>>15617664

Normal is weaker. I beat White Lightning with a tier 4 fighter. Hard and Nightmare are endgame.

>>15617957

white steel

well shit, i just got 12k KC/SPL and 1 DM from the Alaska VS tokyo fight that i got disqualified from.

guess i was wrong or they changed something in the last update.

>>15618068

There's definitely some kind of compensation for the smaller team. Tokyo has about 1/3rd of the successful raids, but almost double the score.

>>15618058

You just got 1DM from a fight you were disqualified from AND that your team lost? Or were you on team Tokyo?

>>15618129

No I replied to exactly the post I wanted to. I'm amazed you got any DMs in spite of being on the losing team.

>>15618140

i was looking at it wrong because you posted twice, my bad.

yeah, i got one DM because i raided the fuck outta this fight. gotta say it was all worth it. so from now on im gonna try to have around 1% of the total points before the end of the fight, win or lose, if it gives me DM.

>>15618149

That's because it jumps from tier 1 materials to tier 4 stuff.