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File: 3c2bb10b052ddb8⋯.png (124.97 KB, 270x266, 135:133, ClipboardImage.png)

979163  No.15505993

Which was the best game in the series?

Is it worth looking for an fm modded cart for PS1?

Does anyone here still play PSO1?

What are the system requirements for PSO2?

0d4076  No.15506000

>does anyone here still play PSO1

there's still a reasonably active community for blue burst. i played on there for a month or two but for the life of me i can't remember what the private server was called. it was fun as fuck though


56016a  No.15506329

PSP2i > PS4 > PS2 > PSO Ep I & II > PSO2 > PS Zero > PS1 > PS3 > PSP > PSU/AotI > PS Nova > PS character adventures > PS Gaiden > PS Adventure

PS2 can be moved further down the list, but I put it that high for plot and character reasons - though that relies on how much you want to dig into the supplementary material. PSO and PSO2 can swap places depending on your preference in combat. PSO can feel clunky these days, but I prefer it's methodical timed combo combat over PSO2's spammy nature.

Also, PS3 has potential to be one of the better titles - and really needs a remake - but it's pretty flawed as it is.


881e6e  No.15506364

File: 64b6df4a41f0968⋯.jpg (25.69 KB, 335x333, 335:333, 64b6df4a41f096866c18567b51….jpg)

>>15505993

It's a great game but sometimes it just feels like it's just 4 people playing single player on the same map, even when playing with IRL friends.

Most people don't really want to "co-op" or level slightly evenly and it all just ends up in a situation where 1 person on the room simply wiping entire rooms by themselves and your just along for the item grabbing ride.


fc59da  No.15506375

>>15505993

>Is it worth looking for an fm modded cart for PS1?

The original English translation is not very good anyway so I think emulated the re-translated JP version is still the way to go if you want FM sound.


5697d8  No.15506379

>>15506375

I tried the non-translated rom because I thought I'd be able to play it like I did with ActRaiser (no kanjis) but I was horrified with PS1. It's only katakana for some reason.


a90c41  No.15506794

I thought there was a PSO1 thread up, guess it died. A couple people were talking about playing on Ephinea in that thread.


4021f8  No.15506806

>liking first person dungeon crawlers

Ok, (((lab rat))). enjoy your box mazes and cheese


368eed  No.15513418

File: f9beb5a41e7fa4e⋯.jpg (264.7 KB, 500x421, 500:421, f9b.jpg)

>>15506000

Server was probably Ephinea or Ultima. They're the two most popular community servers nowadays.

For anyone looking to get into PSO1, the two servers I mentioned are both very active. Ephinea offers a more accurate vanilla experience with some safe balanced new additions to spice it up and a sandbox mode, while Ultima kinda says "fuck it" and has an EXP multiplier along with custom event weapons and reincorporating some stuff that was never included in the final product. There's some new rising server called "Destiny" too that's supposed to be Ultima but better.

I personally play on Ultima and everything but the community is great. Most of the high-level players just spend time circle-jerking each other in chat.


e9563f  No.15513426

>FM modded cart

Wouldn't you also need to FM mod your SMS?


301b6e  No.15513599

pso v2 (for both dreamcast and pc) has its own perks over ep1&2 and psobb even though it is episode 1 only. monsters in v2 are stronger than later versions making ultimate mode especially punishing. It also has graphical quirks not present in later versions like ghostly faces flying in the air during the dark falz fight. The equipment selection is more limited, combined with the strong enemies v2 is a version of PSO that still remains relevant for its unique challenge.


56016a  No.15513792

>>15513599

The problem with v2 over Ep I & II is that v2 was designed specifically with the assumption that pretty much every player had a full suite of power rares due to rampant duping. So going into v2, pretty much all v1 weapons were completely worthless and you had to scrape by with pathetic damage (if you could even hit) until you found your first Red Saber or something. Ep I & II was a complete rebalance since both episodes were starting from the same fresh start, and you had the entire second episode to cram into the same lvl 80~200 growth window. So Ep I got nerfed hard to make exp scaling between it and Ep II much more fluid.


fa65e4  No.15515985

is the english translation of psp2i dead?


ed2791  No.15516026

>>15513418

What about Schtserv? Are there noteworthy differences between those three?


2ed09e  No.15516059

>>15516026

Shitserv is the worst of the options.


9e64d0  No.15516634

>>15516059

Schtserv is just outdated these days. It is past its prime is all.

In its time it did try some stuff to bring the game back though.


8f99a8  No.15516645

>>15515985

It's worse than dead.

Dead translations can be picked up and finished by other people.

That one is held hostage by some mentally ill attention whore that refuses to both finish it and to let others finish it. It's also 99% done or something.

It's in fucking hell.


2ed09e  No.15516681

>>15516645

Apparently their programmer recently came back and fixed the bug they had been having. According to them it's being worked on again and all that is left is QC, UI fixs, and subbing cutscenes.


09dc07  No.15516695

>>15516681

If they actually pull through I might buy a Vita just for that.


9bcb4d  No.15516698

>>15516695

Can you apply 60 fps patches for PSP games on vita though?


09dc07  No.15516704

>>15516698

I doubt it, but then again I don't think it'll bother me too much either way.


2ed09e  No.15516711

File: 2f0e1d17c7cadf8⋯.webm (6.25 MB, 640x360, 16:9, WHY_JAPANESE_PEOPLE.webm)

>>15516695

It's still a pretty big if. reminder you could have learned Japanese in the time its taking this to come out.


9bcb4d  No.15516735

>>15516711

Learning moon runes is pointless and a waste of time.


22a8f2  No.15516748

>>15516735

>learning another language is a waste of time

m8 even if you weren't a fucking weeb acquiring a skill isn't a waste of time

That time's gonna pass anyway.


2ed09e  No.15516767

>>15516735

>Learning moon runes is pointless and a waste of time.

If you enjoy being at the beck and call of translators and (((localizers))) sure.There are a lot of good things that will never be translated though. It's not that hard and depending on the field you work in may even be lucrative to learn. If you spend about a hour a day for a year you should be able to play though many games.


000000  No.15516791

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15505993

Phantasy Star 4 will always be the best for me. It is even better if you play the first 2 (maybe even 3) before, to see all the plot get a definitive conclusion in 4.

>>15516735

No. and currently, is essential in taking away profit from (((localizers))).


c1ec87  No.15516794

>>15516748

You are gonna pass away. Learning skills that you don't actively use is a meme.

>>15516767

>>15516791

What profit? I never bought (((localized))) game.


2ed09e  No.15516806

>>15516794

>You are gonna pass away. Learning skills that you don't actively use is a meme.

By that logic why do anything at all? Learning itself has value, whether or not you use what you learn is up to you.


c1ec87  No.15516815

>>15516806

>By that logic why do anything at all?

No reason. You learn only what you need and spend your free time having fun.

>Learning itself has value

What value?


09dc07  No.15516830

File: ed3cfd1692ae1f3⋯.png (845.5 KB, 530x876, 265:438, pso20170806_122606_000.png)

File: 948a58d702f4c37⋯.png (290.29 KB, 430x547, 430:547, pso20170817_121515_000.png)

File: 1fe79e1c2c8d0cc⋯.png (758.89 KB, 606x994, 303:497, pso20170903_094823_001.png)

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File: 657074ebc95412d⋯.png (1.13 MB, 716x864, 179:216, pso20180926_231718_000.png)

>>15516815

Learning a language actually reveals a lot about history and the relationship that cultures have with each other. For example, in most "simple" languages, a cat is called some version of the sound it makes, meow, or mao. In English it's called cat. Why is that?

Anyway post some uggos.


000000  No.15516854

>>15516794

The more people learning japanese, the less relevant (((localization))) becomes, to the point of it going extinct.


c1ec87  No.15516864

>>15516830

>>15516854

I would rather learn language that people actually use. Jap is only relevant to a small portion of video games and nothing else.


2ed09e  No.15516867

File: 2c6a7c314d5bc98⋯.jpg (235.22 KB, 1200x2430, 40:81, yanagida_fumita_fit_comic.jpg)

>>15516815

>What value?

The value of growing and bettering yourself. It's good for you, much like getting /fit/.


56016a  No.15516885

>>15516681

>According to them it's being worked on again

"It's being worked on again", but never finished, is the permanent state of this translation. Every time I remembered that it was a thing once upon a time, and look up the project to see if anything had happened, it's always "it's being worked on again! Don't give up hope!"

Fuck it. You could have learned Japanese, learned a trade, moved to Japan, met a nice girl, and settled down in Gifu to start a family with her in the span of time that this translation has been "worked on".


c0fe9d  No.15516890

File: 0ab4fb8f4b626ee⋯.jpg (27.83 KB, 445x395, 89:79, time_loli_sucking_it.jpg)

>>15516867

>>15516815

>arguing with an obviously hedonistic degenerate

>thinking they'll understand why people learn and/ or improve themselves


56016a  No.15516897

>>15516806

>By that logic why do anything at all? Learning itself has value

No it doesn't. Learning a skill that has no practical application, or to which you don't apply in a productive manner, is a hobby. Don't pretend it's anything grander than playing video games or jerking off.


30e21a  No.15516898

>>15516890

>hedonistic

hedonists wouldnt hang around the chins

hes prolly just a supremely lazy NEET faggot hiding behind muh hedonism while mooching off welfare


2ed09e  No.15516906

>>15516864

>I would rather learn language that people actually use.

Like what? Name a language that humans use that is more relevant than Japanese or English.


c0fe9d  No.15516971

>>15516898

>hedonists wouldnt hang around the chins

What on earth are you on about? What world do you live in?


6f507d  No.15516973

>>15516906

>japanese

>relevant

Hue.

Ching chong is far more relevent than japengo


2ed09e  No.15516979

>>15516973

I said languages humans use, not bugmen and other subhumans. That disqualifies spanish and chink.


5017bd  No.15517005

schtserv has the worst admins of all time.


5017bd  No.15517010

>>15516791

4 would have been better if alys lived and the dweeb blonde kid died


b2a902  No.15517016

>>15517005

They've been around for too long.


000000  No.15517104

>>15517010

Nah. It was a good old "disciple saves the world at the cost of his master's life". Besides, having one female protagonist is already too much.

>>15516864

So? A culture better than 90% of others on the whole planet. It is already reason enough to learn their language just because of that.


b77075  No.15517477

File: fcb23f9900c11de⋯.jpg (474.11 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, PSO2_Bootleg_Falco.jpg)

File: 88355976dd580d1⋯.png (346.12 KB, 420x555, 28:37, PSO2_Bootleg_WarGreymon.png)

>>15516830

>post some uggos


689342  No.15517551

>>15505993

>Is it worth looking for an fm modded cart for PS1?

Pretty sure it's the console that gets the FM mod and the music is included in all PS1 carts (I actually need to replace my SRAM battery so I'll verify there's no FM chip in the cart itself).


6e81be  No.15517617

File: d0dffc774108896⋯.png (163.03 KB, 365x467, 365:467, 8f0839c119daa985fdb1da613d….png)

I registered for Blue Burst Ephinea and I have no clue on starting out in the hunters guild, any guides and/or tips for beginning?


b77075  No.15517925

File: 2c1f581b6156037⋯.jpg (198.45 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, phantasy_star_online_wallp….jpg)

>>15517617

Create an Episode 1 room with 'Normal' difficulty and 'Normal' rules.

Once you're in the city, look for the teleporter up to the "Principal"; it's on the bridge between the shops / bank and the area you start in.

Walk to the end, and start a Main Story quest (1-1 in this case) by talking to the receptionist; your room is now 'locked' into the quest, and people in the lobby can see the quest details before joining.

You can now go back to the main teleporter and git tae fightin'. Do the objective, and you should be teleported back to the city at the end.

To finish the quest, talk to the "Principal", then the receptionist; you'll automatically leave the room and return to the lobby. Most of the Main Quests have no rewards at the end, so don't feel pressured to do most of them.

Next, set up a similar Episode 1 room with 'One Person' rules; this is basically 'Offline Mode' from the console versions, and most of the game's side-quests will only show up in this mode.

As soon as you're in the city, go to the desk on your left, and look for "Battle Training" in the list; it's basically a tutorial level where your overpowered companion one-shots everything.

I think Ephinea has every quest open from the start, so if you want to play things in chronological order, look for an old Hunter's Guild guide on GameFAQs or something.

You should probably stick to quests in the Forest areas until Level 10, after which you can move onto the Caves, and / or make a start on Episode 2's story content. Likewise, at level 20, you'll stand a chance of surviving Episode 4 stuff.

Ignore the 'Hard' difficulty option until you can solo the final boss of Episode 1 on 'Normal' (probably around Lv.35).

Basically, you'll want master all of the 'Normal' areas before you can survive an Episode on 'Hard' difficulty, then do the same for 'Very Hard' and 'Ultimate'.

Despite all that, it's worth making an 'Ultimate' room and seeing some of the crazy shit at least once; just don't expect to survive it unless you're approaching Lv.100.


566840  No.15517927

>>15517104

nah chaz was shit, just like your opinions. also, stop worshipping gook antpeople


9e64d0  No.15518165

>>15517927

>Disliking Chaz

What do you have against the poor kid anon?

I liked Alys as well but had no issue with Chaz taking the lead. Besides what is wrong with someone growing into an adult?

Yeah Alys had back story we never found out about but I like the idea of just a normal human saving everything and being the leader.

For sure when you look at the main party:

Rika=living bio creature and the result of 1000 years of research into making Mayu's species mixed with humanity for whatever reason.

Rune=2000 year old esper reincarnation of the 1st person to help save the solar system

Wren=robro


3094c2  No.15520017

>>15517925

>talk to the principal to start main story

Thank you anon, I probably found this five years ago when I played on schthack before they accidentally the database, but forgot where it was. I've been doing the side stories from the quest counter instead.


000000  No.15520278

>>15517927

Japanese are superior to all but White People.

The bugmen live in fake China.

And Chaz is a nice character. And always better than a woman being a protagonist.

>>15518165

Not only that, but the growing up from being a mercenary to a full warrior that fights for a superior and honorable cause is great. You can see all aspects of Chaz's grow during the game.


85914b  No.15520344

PSO is a degenerate waste of time going through the same handful of banally designed dungeons just so you can level up a queer elf avatar and obtain the next r@r3 item that has a 1/9999999999 chance of dropping, much like today's lootcrates, whilst gaining nothing out of it so as to improve your actual gameplay skills. It, like all RPGs, was pretty much the foundational template for modern gaming.


56016a  No.15520361

File: ccf68af9c67fa62⋯.png (2.74 KB, 270x289, 270:289, Hahn Crying.png)

>>15518165

Hahn was a cucked academic, and even he was better than Chaz. He was also more of a normal fag with no real skills or power, so why didn't you have him in your party. Stack him with Gryz and Raja who are just average examples of their species and that's already three. Out of all the "special" characters - Kyra is the most normal of them, so throw her on the pile too.

There you go, a party full of normalfags taking on a universe-ending elemental evil. And Chaz is still the worst of all of them.


485bb5  No.15520527

File: f0c5d6af59d6de0⋯.jpg (169.28 KB, 1280x1280, 1:1, 1490929140997.jpg)

>hedonism

>bad

>saying this on a video game board


a03a50  No.15520799

>>15505993

Phantasy Star 4 was the best.


05ae5a  No.15520822

>>15516026

Schtserv ownership went completely nuts and ruined everything some years ago.


368eed  No.15522480

File: 9cecd9578749832⋯.png (2.74 KB, 435x47, 435:47, dw.png)

>he paid $2000 for a weapon

Something I should also note when it comes to choosing between Ephinea or Ultima is that Ephinea has a a stronger English-speaking community. Considering the game is centered around team gameplay, find the community that would serve you better.

>>15516026

Never choose Schtserv, only villains do that.


2215dd  No.15528621

Would anyone care to get me into 7-Eleven mafia in PSO2? Even if it's only like one guy who logs in a week it would still be better than my dead normalfag team.


41bc85  No.15529751

>>15528621

Sure, post your player ID. I'll invite you when I get back.


dce336  No.15530586

>>15529751

>>15528621

Is there any 8ch team on PSO2 these days or am I stuck with joining a 4chan team?


ccbc57  No.15530610

>>15530586

There is one, but we're on life support. People do login every day still, but it's just a handful of us.


9c4a9e  No.15530630

>Is it worth looking for an fm modded cart for PS1?

Not really, just play psobb

>Does anyone here still play PSO1?

I assume the console versions are all empty.

>What are the system requirements for PSO2?

20011 tier.


5017bd  No.15530634

>>15505993

pso2 is horrid.

i still got pso on my gamecube so i just play that. you could also emulate it on dolphin i guess.


dce336  No.15530693

>>15530610

This is when you tell me it's not on Ship 2.

I unwisely moved my character from Ship 4 to join people who then never played the game.


b2a902  No.15530703

>>15530634

You can emulate PSO with a craptop on Dolphin as long as you have a basic 256mb vram gpu.


2215dd  No.15533011

>>15529751

ID's lordofmacca. No hurry, I've got shit I'm supposed to be doing all week.


ccbc57  No.15535141

>>15533011

It's been sent.

>>15530693

Didn't you hear? We were chased off Ship 2 by furries and ERPers so we are totally on Ship 4 now.

no we're not we're on ship 2


6baf28  No.15535246

>>15535141

>>15530610

Can you pull up full MPAs without randos? At least for popular EQs in prime times?


ccbc57  No.15535303

>>15535246

Nope. We can manage a MPA when a new boss EQ comes out, but otherwise we can only do a party of 4/4 during primetime at best.


dce336  No.15536000

>>15535141

Hook me up brother, I need something like human contact.

oneclassybloke


474783  No.15536121

>>15536000

can't find your ID, you're from ship 02 right?


dce336  No.15536171

File: 7c7841cd856cda5⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 312.77 KB, 874x564, 437:282, PSO2 card.PNG)

>>15536121

Just looked up my ARKS card, turns out I was mistaken. Sorry about that.


547f89  No.15536264

>>15513418

>reincorporating some stuff that was never included in the final product.

Like what?

What was cut from the final game?


0e47aa  No.15537543

ultima server is shit

you can go from level 1 to 100 within 3 hours with their exp boosts and unbalanced custom quests. they made custom equipment with superior stats to vanilla pso rares and locked them behind a "donation points" cash shop. yeah people can trade photon drops for donation points to get these items but these items make ultimate a cake walk. they also made "insane" difficulty where almost all items that are not these cash shop items become useless. the entire ingame economy revolves around collecting photon drops to shop with while people are generally uninterested in most other rare drops. they also removed the max stat caps on characters so that these new items could fully inflate character stats while largely eliminating class uniqueness.


3094c2  No.15538625

>>15517925

>>15520017

oh shid

I just remembered, side stories are different between difficulty levels. Is it the same thing with main story quests? Do I have to play through the normal mode ones first to get the full story?


15efbe  No.15538695

>>15506379

That's common with games from that era and was mostly a result of space saving measures done by choosing either hiragana or katakana. Dragon Quest III (also using a 4Mb cartridge) did similar thing too, just used hiragana instead. Hell, one of the big reasons why IBM PC platform had a very delayed start in Japanese market was because proprietary domestic machines at one point started including custom ROM chips with kanji font on their motherboards. The success of NEC's PC98 platform is the best proof of this since it was probably the closest to being IBM PC-compatible.


368eed  No.15538734

File: c479567c936a127⋯.png (84.85 KB, 457x347, 457:347, IMG_21022014_232812.png)

>>15536264

Event-only items and stuff that you can't currently obtain anymore, like the Red Ring or Parasitic Gene Flow.


b77075  No.15538877

>>15538625

>Re-unlocking quests on each difficulty level

It depends which server / client you use for Blue Burst, but you'll probably find the full Main and Side-Quest lists unlocked immediately.

Fan-server admins usually hated the classic requirement on SEGA's old official servers, so they often override it. Unfortunately, this completely fucks with the chronological 'order' you're supposed to complete side-quests in, so good luck unlocking any secret shit related to the "tell Sue your name" decision (unless you very carefully follow a guide).


c790c3  No.15538902

>>15537543

There is no "Insane" difficulty. Ultimate mode has buffed monsters, where their EVP is buffed to the point you NEED hit% weapons in order to hit them. Which makes using special attacks even that much more difficult to land. Think of it as a way to actually gearing up your character. You need a huge set of weapons to be viable, and must equip Red Ring and good Units in order to not miss 50% of the time. I had fun.

Also it doesn't take 3 hours 1-100. Alone it would take you probably 20-30 hours if you know what is efficient (ttf/CCA quest etc). I could power level you to 100 though in like 5-7 hours I bet, if x5 EXP is on. 100-140 is also a breeze, maybe 4 hours in CCA.


c790c3  No.15538910

(My point - Ultimate mode in Ultima server has buffed EVP for monsters, when compared to Ultimate mode on original/other servers.)


c790c3  No.15538934

>>15537543

Also, all characters still have max capped stats. They just have boosted ATP DFP (etc) caps in order to compensate for the buffed monsters in Ultima's Ultimade mode. For example if I remember HUCast has like 1700 ATP cap (300 or so more than original version).

What's worse is the Excalibur has a boost item turning it into a stronger weapon, where only squishies with MST can use the special, which has the highest ATP of any weapon. FO's (or HUmar/RAmar) have the highest single hit damage in game.


92e7d2  No.15540727

my point is ultima is designed as a shekel grab

the exp multiplyers rush players to levels where donation ticket equipment is necessary and vanilla equips without DT modification rapidly lose value especially within the modded difficulty. it becomes difficult as a free player to obtain valuables worth trading for PDs to gain DTs other than farming PDs yourself. This game balance is designed to create a high incentive to donate. Ultima is the EA of pso servers. You can host a psobb server for 50 players on a toaster, it really doesnt take much more power to host 500 players so ultima is really just pocketing those shekels.




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