/v/ - Video Games

Star wars: the old republic. It got better over time but KOTOR3 would have existed if it didn't

>inb4 700 posts about mmos never being good

I love posting in 4chan 2.0

>>15497186

>>15495179

>>15497192

when were they good?

>>15497186

Fucking Medal of Honor. That game spawned the shitty WW2 FPS craze that pretty much ruined the FPS genre for years.

>>15497201

>he can't read

Pong.

>>15497213

>that image

MOAR please

I'd fight Ghandi.

>>15498138

With all we've learned over the years it shouldn't be hard to make an UO clone that's actually fun, balanced and with quality of life, and yet…

>>15498144

Every attempt to recapture the magic early players found in UO (ShadowBane, Asheron's Call, Black Desert) has succumbed to the same problems of not actually being dynamic enough, and the core combat/crafting mechanics completely falling apart when the players get their hands on them. Probably the closest thing I can think of to success were NWN persistent worlds like 3 Towns, due in substantial part to their small size and the purity of vision possible with so few designers:

http://mu.ranter.net/design-theory

>>15498138

Name the games that Wolfenstein 3D and Myst are "dumbed down knockoffs" of.

>>15497325

Yeah, reminds me of every previous expansion with same fucking strategy of (1) with same pictures.

>>15498513

>Wolfenstein 3D

<Origin's UA & later SS games

<Bethesda's Terminator and TES games

<Castle Wolfenstein itself

All the 1st-person and 3D games that were smothered under its and Doom's arcadey brainlessness

>Myst

<Parser-based adventure games (IF & graphical)

<Point & click adventure games

<Cyan's own non-game titles (Cosmic Ozmo, Spelunx, Manhole, etc.) that were far more open in design, and if turned into games in a way that was less linear, more reactive than Myst, would've turned out far better.

>>15498577

Starting with WarCraft, every single Blizzard game consisted of getting someone else's stuff (game mechanics, IP fluff, visual design, story genre), filing away the serial numbers, polishing it to a high shine, and mercilessly exploiting it. Not horrible or anything, but hardly worth great praise.

>Origin's UAUU (as in Ultima Underworld) & later SS games

Oops

>>15498625

I knew you'd name some bullshit.

STOP FUCKING BUMPING THIS SHILL THREAD

>>15498716

Fug, I was alive to see the declines happen though, being primarily an Apple ][/Mac gamer, I had a better view of adventure than FPS. In the case of FPS, the genre was set back at least a decade, both on a technological basis (rooms over rooms, realtime lighting, look up/down, jump/crouch, sloping floors/ceilings, rotating level geometry, vehicles, etc.) and a mechanical one (object interaction, inventory management, stealth, dialog with characters, hostile/neutral/friendly AI, nonlinear campaigns, etc.), if not for iD being lazy, we could've had Deus Ex and ARMA in the early 90s. In the case of adventure, Cyan simultaneously killed the genre through oversaturation of low-effort FMV CD-ROM games, and hopelessly pigeonholed themselves with the Myst series.

Didn't mean to sage

>>15498756

>complains about thread

>bumps it

Shill thread, but still warrants a proper answer.

I'll repost what I said in a similar thread some years ago, and say Warcraft. The original one. Without Warcraft,

>WoW never exists. The MMORPG genre most likely remains relatively niche, thus making their design a bit more similar to pre-WoW MMOs.

>ASSFAGGOTS don't exist, since Warcraft III, and by proxy Defense of the Ancients, never come to fruition.

>Twitch becomes a husk of its current self, due to many of the games that helped it grow as much as it did never existing

>As a result of this stunted growth, Battle Royale games never really take off

>And as an added bonus, thanks to Twitch Plays Pokemon possibly never existing, it doesn't become "cool" again. Pokemon Go either doesn't exist or doesn't experience the brief surge in popularity that it did, thus making it possible that the newer games pander to casuals less

>Due to WoW not existing and Twitch being less popular, it's very possible that Overwatch either doesn't exist or becomes much less popular than it is, due to Project Titan, Overwatch's predecessor of sorts, likely not existing

>As a result of the above, loot crates don't become as prominent in games as they did

I'm probably missing details, and lots of this is just speculation.

>>15497186

Why do you keep remaking this same fucking thread with the exact same image.

If I could go back in time, I'd kill you so you stop making this fucking thread over and over again.

>>15499218

hearthstone would get nuked too and that contributed to Overwatch too

Call of Duty or Halo

>>15499218

This

Blizzard has contributed nothing to the videogame industry except horrible business practices and shitty videogame genres (MOBAs, click-to-loot, gacha lootbox systems, destroying the MMO genre)

If I stop a game from being released due to its influence on the industry then another company would release a similar or worse game in its place.

>>15499218

This is the best outcome.

I'd stop from Tennis for Two, this would prevent games from being invented, thus preventing casuals (see: shitskins) from ever infecting video games.

>>15499073

>Deus Ex in the early 90s

So have we just moved every entertainment-related event up 10 years or so? That means that by about 2002 or 2003 we'd have the SJW infestation.

>>15513552

This is for the most part true. It's extremely difficult to actually erase a shitty game or any shitty thing in general from the timeline. The circumstances have to align in a very particular way to truly erase a terrible event. Game companies have a financial incentive to get your money no matter which timeline it is, and whatever other shitty thing you want to go back in time and prevent most likely had people who would benefit from it unless it was a complete accident or something uncontrollable by humans like a natural disaster, so even if it gets changed somebody else would most likely do something very similar. Of course, if a way to go back in time was found to exist, I'd use it to change a hell of a lot more than just videogames. But if I'm going to be given a free attempt at fixing some of the cancer in vidya alongside everything else, it would have to be one of the "gateway" games that seems to admit hordes of normalfags into the community, even if on their own merits they're actually good games. Eliminating one of the big gateway games can stop SJWs from subverting large portions of the videogame community because the SJWs draw their power from normalfags' tendency to virtue signal. So as shitty as it would be to keep CoD, dudebro gamers tend not to pay attention to SJWism despite the fact that they often have very low intelligence, even though they fall for whatever shitty business practices the game companies can cook up. Which games fit the criterion of being a gateway for SJWs is debatable, as is whether an alternative similar enough to serve as a gateway would arise if it were to be written out of the timeline.