17fed1 No.15489953
A good chunk of the best N64 games can't be rereleased easily. They are
Tied to a license
>Shadows of the Empire
>Episode 1 Racer
>Battle for Naboo
>Rogue Squadron
>WWF No Mercy
>Excitebike 64 (real company product placement, and not all in easily retextured ways like Wave Race)
>GoldenEye
>Mickey's Speedway USA
Tied to Rare
>GoldenEye (Again)
>Mickey's Speedway USA (again)
>Perfect Dark
>Blast Corps
>Banjo
>Banjo 2
>Conker
>Jet Force Gemini
or are Transfer Pack dependent
>Pokemon Stadium
>Pokemon Stadium 2
>Mario Golf
>Mario Tennis
That's 18+ of the best games out. What's left?
>Mario 64
>F-Zero X with DD content added in
>OoT with Master Quest
>MM
>DK64
>Star Fox 64
>Mario Kart 64
>Custom Robo (if they wanted to translate it)
>Custom Robo v2 (same)
>Paper Mario
>Sin and Punishment
>Smash
>Kirby 64
>Wave Race 64
>Goemon*
>Bomberman*
>Mischief Makers*
>Ogre Battle 64*
(*third party)
Anything left?
74b3cf No.15489971
Imagine. Nintendo 64 mini comes out. And the only game on it is mario 64.
fc24a5 No.15489974
>>15489971
It would see due to pannencoek alone.
d9f383 No.15489994
They'd probably try to sell it by including some unreleased/unfinished 64DD content, sorta like with Star Fox 2. What would it be, though?
9d0d31 No.15490002
None because no good N64 emulator runs on Pi shit so nintendo can't steal code from anywhere.
24cbc7 No.15490007
>>15489994
F-Zero X, Sim City, and maybe the Mario Artist series.
c3a73c No.15490008
We need a Sega Saturn mini
>>15489971
that's like 20% of the library right there
63642b No.15490028
>>15490008
I'd have to question if that would at least have Panzer Dragoon Saga, since while there's game files of the individual discs or piracy/emulation, I'm pretty sure Sega don't have the actual code anymore.
f8eb22 No.15490063
>>15489953
you could throw on Wonder Project J2 and…huh, I guess that's it
aaeb89 No.15490118
Excitebike 64 was released on the Wii U Virtual Console, so that one shouldn't be an issue. I think the biggest isue with an N64 Mini is that the console was the King of console FPS at the time, and 4 player multiplayer. The problem with the first is that I don't think many people these days would care to try N64 FPS games, and the second is they would have to make a mini that had 4 controllers, which is insane. Let's assume the N64 mini supports at the minimum Memory, and that Transfer Pak games and special add ons are out. Also ruling out licensed properties so no Goldeneye or Turok sadly. Also I'm sleep deprived so if there are any mistakes in this list please forgive and let me know.
Here is a list of what I would consider potential games, from first party to third. One's with *s would need translation or get region locked. If I make a mistake
<First Party
>1080 Snowboarding
>Animal Crossing*
>Custom Robo*
>Custom Robo v2*
>Diddy Kong Racing (Release might be shaky due to Banjo and Conker)
>Donkey Kong 64
>Dr. Mario 64
>Excitebike 64
>F-Zero X
>Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1*
>Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
>Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
>Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
>Mario Kart 64
>Mario Party
>Mario Party 2
>Mario Party 3
>Paper Mario
>Pilotwings 64
>Pokemon Puzzle League
>Pokemon Snap
>Ridge Racer 64 (Does Nintendo own the rights to this one? They made and published it but I don't know)
>Sin & Punishment
>Star Fox 64
>Super Mario 64
>Super Smash Bros.
>Wave Race 64
>Yoshi's Story
<Third Party
>Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-O*
>Banjo-Kazooie
>Banjo-Tooie
>Blast Corps
>Body Harvest
>Bomberman 64
>Bomberman 64: The Second Attack
>Bomberman Hero
>Bomberman 64 (JP)*
>Castlevania 64
>Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness
>Chameleon Twist (Apparrently Sunsoft still exists)
>Chameleon Twist 2
>ClayFighter 63⅓ / Clayfighter: Sculptor's Cut
>Conker's Bad Fur Day
>Doom 64
>Getter Love!!*
>Glover
>Goemon Mononoke Sugoroku*
>Goemon's Great Adventure
>Harbest Moon 64
>Hybrid Heaven
>Jet Force Gemini
>Killer Instinct Gold
>Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
>New Tetris
>Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
>Perfect Dark
>Quest 64
>Rocket: Robot on Wheels
>Saikyō Habu Shōgi*
>Shiren the Wanderer 2*
>Snowboard Kids
>Snowboard Kids 2
>Space Station Silicon Valley
>Tetrisphere
>Wetrix
>Wonder Project J2: Corlo no Mori no Josette *
bc09af No.15490125
c3a73c No.15490134
>>15490028
source code for it would be 100% irrelevant, all the best ports of older games are reverse engineered final versions instead of source code rewrites. You could just load the iso's. PDS source wouldn't be useful for porting anyway because so much of the game is deeply woven into the way the saturn works, written in assembly for a CPU architecture that has no place on any other platforms, and is using an outdated form of rendering from the early 90s that basically equates to really fast sprite scaling and rotation.
It's like wanting to translate a book written in an ancient language to English and you only speak Italian. The source is 100% irrelevant.
938a9c No.15490154
its not a N64 without Banjo-kazooie
a0785c No.15490177
It would be interesting to see how Nintendo pulls it off, since they relied on emulation for the NES and SNES minis and Nintendo had a hard enough time getting that accurate enough with their relatively weak hardware
Not only is Nintendos official VC emulator not nearly as accurate, but if they're going the emulation route they would need exponentially more powerful hardware than the weak-ass Allwinner chips the first two minis had.
Its possible they could go with an N64-on-a-chip this time, since MIPS CPUs are still being made so Nintendo can spin one relatively cheaply, unlike the SNES' original 16-bit extensions to the 6502 architecture or the original NES 6502 chip.
a45986 No.15490178
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The list was leaked a while back.
a0785c No.15490188
>>15490178
>See video
>See Studio Ghibli parody logo
>See fat soy faggot
>immediately click off
What's that hooktube replacement everyone is shilling for now? Anyhow use that instead nobody cares about your pet e-celeb
aaeb89 No.15490192
>>15490188
>>15490178
That's not the N64 classic leak list. It's just the N64 Nintendo games on the Wii U Virtual Console. Bomberman 64 was published by Nintendo.
a45986 No.15490193
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15490188
There. You happy now?
a0785c No.15490197
>>15490193
hooktube doesn't actually work anymore retard. There's another website that people are using now but I forget the name
a8a270 No.15490200
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15490178
>>15490188
sed "s/www.youtube.com/invidio.us/g"
a0785c No.15490208
>>15490200
>invidio.us
Yes that's what it was called thank you
a45986 No.15490214
I would love for it to have Doom 64 on it, but since Nintendo are faggots, it probably won't.
a8a270 No.15490217
>>15490208
We'll probably get another replacement next year anyway. whatever it takes to avoid giving Jewgle shekels
c3a73c No.15490218
>>15490217
invidious embedded player fucking sucks and anyone who uses it is a faggot I'd rather have youtube embeds but if you faggots insist on it just use jdownloader you mongs, if it won't fit in the size limit no one was going to watch a video that long anyway
9d0d31 No.15490345
>>15490218
> I'd rather have youtube embeds
kill yourself
c3a73c No.15490352
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15490345
you are now being tracked by jewgle
ca0eb4 No.15490359
fc24a5 No.15490360
>>15490218
It plays better than hooktube ever did though, what's your deal? What machine are you using? I've had people have this issues in my board with it too.
>>>/mental/14487
26514c No.15490364
>>15490178
At this rate, if we're patient, we can get a Classic Switch by 2020. Then all that remains is to drop hints to the Classic Wife's Boyfriend that you'd like one after your Classic Vasectomy.
c3a73c No.15490369
>>15490360
embedded player cuts off UI buttons, can't access the page it's hosted on once you begin playing it, can't see comments, source, etc. you autists care so much about tracking get a vpn.
fc24a5 No.15490378
>>15490369
>embedded player cuts off UI buttons
Works on my machine.jpg
>can't access the page it's hosted on once you begin playing it
Fair point, refresh the page, right click and open in another tab.
>can't see comments, source, etc.
You can though, see above. It's only one issue that costs you 5 seconds, unless you're using huemonkey internet.
>You autists care so much about tracking get a vpn.
Even with a VPN, invidio.us player UI is faster and more responsive than youtube's itself. It feels sleeker.
c3a73c No.15490394
>>15490378
>Works on my machine.jpg
you're missing UI elements too fucko, you don't even realize it and that makes this whole exchange funnier
>costs you 5 seconds,
or none if it's youtube
>It feels sleeker.
it can feel my dick because it sucks ass and the support it has here is garbage
9e7525 No.15490428
>>15489953
>or are Transfer Pack dependent
For fucks sake the Mario sports games are not that Transfer Pack dependent, both N64 games were re-released on Wii and Wii U VC and both their GBC counterparts games on 3DS, all versions frustratingly unmodified to not have that transfer pak content be available when it should be. Actually look up what they unlock first before worrying.
>Mario Golf
It unlocks the characters: Kid, Azalea, Sherry, and/or Joe from GBC version
>Mario Tennis
Unlocks the 4 human characters from GBC version. If the special minigames in GBC version have been beaten it also unlocks 6 tennis courts in MT 64, 3 have identical ball speed and bounce stats as other courts in the game, while the other 3 are unique in their stats.
18b328 No.15490438
>>15490394
>you're missing UI elements too fucko, you don't even realize it and that makes this whole exchange funnier
Your going to have to elaborate on what's missing. Hooktube's UI was just like a webm here. Invidious UI work's almost like youtube's UI except without the theater and full screen buttons, and you have all of webm options when you right click the video.
c3a73c No.15490443
>>15490438
missing share, full screen buttons, no access to uploaders channel without jumping through hoops, fuck that nigger
9e7525 No.15490460
>>15490178
>>15490193
>>15490200
For anyone who doesn't want to watch.
>1080 Snowboarding
>Bomberman 64
>DK 64
>Excitebike 64
>F-Zero X
>Kirby 64
>Mario Golf
>Mario Kart 64
>Mario Party 2
>Mario Tennis
>Paper Mario
>Pokemon Snap
>Starfox, 64
>Super Mario 64
>TLoZ Ocarina of Time
>TLoZ Majora's Mask
>Wave Race 64
>Yoshi's Story
>19th bonus title + Sin & Punishment
If real (which I hope it isn't), that's a surprising lack of 3rd parties (with BM64 was published in NA/PAL by Nintendo but Hudson Soft in Japan). For 3rd party games comparison, the NA SNES mini has 7 out of 21 while NA NES mini has 13 out of 30.
Also no puzzle game inclusion like Pokemon Puzzle League (no puzzle games on NA SNES mini either thanks to lack of Tetris Attack/Panel de Pon). No Smash Bros, Ogre Battle, Goemon, Castlevania titles.. I can understand not having Ridge Racer or any of Crusin' series as that would be too many racing games.
18b328 No.15490478
>>15490443
>missing share, no access to uploaders channel without jumping through hoops
Sounds like an improvement if you ask me. Why would you want that unless you're shilling your own video?
>full screen buttons
Yeah it's not there but you can just right click the video and select full screen. I can live with that specially when CC is integrated into invidious, that being said CC does not work in full screen.
a45986 No.15490490
>>15490460
The N64 didn't have much 3rd party support. Rare Ware mostly kept it afloat.
Smash Bros. didn't get good until Melee.
Ogre Battle and Goemon are too obscure.
The N64 Castlevania games were shit.
7bbe1b No.15490495
N64 has no excuse not for including the whole library, given how small it is.
a45986 No.15490497
>>15490495
They never should have sold Rare Ware.
7bbe1b No.15490499
>>15490497
Look how much Rare went to shit though. They dodged a bullet by selling it when they did and investing in Retro instead.
a45986 No.15490502
>>15490499
They wouldn't have went to shit if Nintendo had kept them. After MS bought them, most of their talent left and a lot of it was already working at Nintendo.
a34d5e No.15490505
>>15490460
It probably isn't the final list. They need some incentive to bring people who had an N64 over kinda like they did with Star-Fox 2 and SNES.
I'm hoping they add
>F-Zero X with DD content added in
>Custom Robo and V2
>Smash Bros
>Goemon
>Mischief Makers
>Ogre Battle 64
>DOOM 64
>Snowboard Kids
Hell they seem to be getting along with Microsoft nowadays, so maybe they can add Banjo and Perfect Dark as well. They'll probably avoid Tooie since that game isn't very good
7bbe1b No.15490507
>>15490502
Sure they wouldn't have. Whatever you say. Wasn't that shitty lizard & bad game made by actual Ex Rareware guys?
a34d5e No.15490509
>>15490497
Maybe it had something to do with Iwata getting ready for the CEO position?
a34d5e No.15490513
>>15490507
Yooka and Laylee? Yeah it was, although I'm not sure if it was the whole team or just a few key members. Also you can tell they don't have an eye for young talent considering they hired an SJW to help them with the game.
193ab4 No.15490554
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>no Sin & Punishment
fucking plebs
a45986 No.15490605
>>15490509
Miyamoto was buttmad that Rare Ware was stealing his thunder and he made Iwata fully aware of it. We lost Rare Ware because of Miyamoto's wounded pride.
1d2a6e No.15490645
lol who cares about licenses, just put Duke Nukem zero hour on it. One of the best unknown coop games on N64. Ice skating as cowboy duke with a sawn off, focking nice. But the graphics don't hold up to my high definition memories unfortunately. Still, it has some of the deepest lore and themes. It taught me as a young boy what it meant to be a man, subjugating and protecting babes from foreigners.
18b328 No.15490654
>>15490605
>Miyamoto was buttmad that Rare Ware was stealing his thunder and he made Iwata fully aware of it.
That doesn't make any sense, Iwata became president in 2002. Rare was looking for buyers as early as 1999.
a45986 No.15490677
>>15490654
He'd been complaining about Rare ever since the first Donkey Kong Country. When he was making Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, the higher-ups didn't like the art style. They wanted it more like the 3D renders from DKC.
Miyamoto was even quoted as saying that DKC was only successful because of the graphics and that it didn't have good gameplay.
9ff248 No.15490687
What games? It's not like there's much to choose from. They will just put the usual suspects minus the IPs which are currently hostage to Micro$oft
18b328 No.15490695
>>15490677
Yes i've heard that before. I'm just saying the Iwata bit doesn't make sense in that timeframe since rare had two major bidders for the company even before he was president. Do you have interview or of Miyamoto stating that? Only reason why I'm asking is because furries have made shit up to justify their prosthetic fetish about starfox's crew having prosthetic legs to prevent blood pooling from the Gs by stating it was "in the manual".
5fb7c7 No.15490748
>>15490677
That quote has never been substantiated ever. Nintendo just weren't interested in complete ownership in Rare, and had the Stamper Bros decided to not sell their stake in Rare to Microsoft the company would still be close to Nintendo. Even the change from Dinosaur Planet was made due to an observational comment and not a demand. On top of all this Shiggy developed games with far higher sales and a far greater critical reception before and since DKC a game that he had significant input on having daily conference calls with the development staff.
Blame him for shit he actually did like Sticker Star.
c53a1c No.15490849
I don't really care as long as it has Kirby 64 and Mischief Makers.
9d0d31 No.15491138
>>15490748
>had the Stamper Bros decided to not sell their stake in Rare to Microsoft the company would still be close to Nintendo
More like Rare would've been fucked by nintendo like Argonaut
c3a73c No.15491404
>>15490478
Because it's literally all there on their website but when you embed it it's cut off you dumb fucker
d9f383 No.15491416
>>15490177
That's an interesting one. At that point, they might as well allow you to use your own carts as well. It'd add to the cost, but they could sell them for more as well, then.
8798e1 No.15491807
i imagine thered be lots of licensing issues with rareware games now that theyre owned by michaelsoft
8798e1 No.15491817
>>15490677
thats fucking stupid but fortunate because yoshis island has a gorgeous art stye.
18b328 No.15492561
>>15491404
It's noting really to throw an autistic shit fit over. remember the point of using a youtube mirror is to deny google data, mainly the views data so the youtuber can't profit from it. Having other features like CC or "sharing" is a distant second.
289042 No.15492640
>>15490490
>Goemon are too obscure
Which sucks because it's probably the best 2 player game on the console.
aeb43b No.15492965
>>15490118
>No x-treme g
The fuck is wrong with you Anon?
f47531 No.15493127
>>15490490
I like Smash 64 more than Melee.
f47531 No.15493137
>>15490748
>the change from Dinosaur Planet was made due to an observational comment and not a demand.
You sure about that?
d091c1 No.15493203
>>15493127
I miss the meta crystal music that was in Smash 64.
f4a6ee No.15493785
>>15489994
I'd actually love to play the original version of Dinosaur Planet. Who owns that at this point?
82c7f8 No.15495640
>>15490505
>F-Zero X with DD content added in
While I would want this to happen, the problem I see is there any language barrier in the Japanese version? Could someone with no knowledge of Japanese understand how to use it.
>Custom Robo and V2
I wish Nintendo would just release these (untranslated) Japan only games on the VC. Yes, there would be a language barrier for any single player story content but the multiplayer should still be fun to experience even without knowledge of Japanese.
>>15490748
>>15493137
The Dinosaur Planet to Starfox Adventures change is one of those gaming mysteries that will never be solved.
>Was it a forced change from Nintendo or just an offer with an established IP to have save a game on a dying console?
>Why has no one from Rare spoken about it (since it's been over 15 years)
>Did the Stamper Bros make the descesion for the team?
>Would the original N64 Dinosaur Planet have been any good in the first place? The combat would be the same staff combat and you have to have segment where you switch characters (Sabre to Krystal) akin to DKC64? While being one of the final games for the N64.
354ec6 No.15500841
>>15495640
>>Would the original N64 Dinosaur Planet have been any good in the first place? The combat would be the same staff combat and you have to have segment where you switch characters (Sabre to Krystal) akin to DKC64? While being one of the final games for the N64.
It's possible, from what little we have of Dinosaur Planet, it's clear that a good chunk of the game was removed or not finished when the decision was made to switch to star fox
https://tcrf.net/Star_Fox_Adventures/Dinosaur_Planet_Leftovers
354ec6 No.15500911
ac7de5 No.15502238
that's because the owners of Nintendo have a stick up their ass about platforming their games. they're the only company that refuses to give us PC fags a chance. fuck them and the horse they rode on. and I started with consoles in the 80s.
b79856 No.15502240
The N64 had such a small library that it would probably be easy to pick out 20 or so games to release on a mini.
fc24a5 No.15502265
>>15500841
Having N64 Mother 3 and Dinosaur Planet would honestly make me want to buy it.
f4a6ee No.15502309
>>15502265
I guess it's only really viable if they were both close to completion, since they aren't going to be making whole games from scratch.
>>15502238
>just score goals for the other team, you asshole!
Why would they ever do that? They don't run a charity.
1b3181 No.15502322
>EMU culture died for this
fuck anyone who buys this trash
f4a6ee No.15502358
>>15502322
Just find somewhere else to pirate your shit. It's not that hard. If you don't have all of the Nintendo roms you want by this point what are you doing anyway? They've been cracking down on this for a long time.
354ec6 No.15502631
>>15502265
Neither is really an option, Dinosaur Planet is very far, but nowhere near as close as Starfox 2 was, and Mother 3, actual development on it didn't get terribly far, completion estimates range from anywhere between 30-60 percent depending on who you want to believe.
>>15502309
It's hard to know what, if any unreleased games they would even add. We don't really have much info on 1st/2nd party prototypes beyond hardware, and the info that is out there points to many of these games being woefully incomplete
764986 No.15502705
N64 port of Command & Conquer
f4a6ee No.15502756
>>15502631
That's a shame. I guess at the very least, they could translate a few games that never made it to English regions. Custom Robo is an obvious choice. Rakuga Kids could also be a draw for Americans, since it never got a release over there.
6e6a36 No.15502763
>>15490008
>that's like 20% of the library right there
1/123, there is roughly 123 games worth playing on the console tops.
8e0d12 No.15502776
>>15490677
Are you the “Miyamoto loved Crash Bandicoot” shitposter?
e325d3 No.15502784
The only way I'd even consider getting it is if it had F-Zero X with the 66DD Expansion Kit
>>15490008
Now a Sega Saturn Mini is something I would actually buy just to force sega to get off their asses and save their saturn games regardless if they have the sourcecode or not
fae6f7 No.15502871
>>15490605
So Nintendo does do what Sega does
11ffdc No.15502876
c3a73c No.15502884
>>15502763
I strongly disagree and I think it's more like 20-30.
>>15502784
Well, since Sega is removing ATGames from ever touching their brand again and giving all the power to M2 who made the best emulators for old games to date (yes, even better than free emulators) to help design future classic hardware, I have serious hopes Sega will finally move on from rehashing genesis and do some Saturn stuff.
6e6a36 No.15502903
>>15502884
The folder with all recomended games from the N64 totals 123, this folder doesn't have any games like Hybrid Heaven or Winback but is merely the most common recommendations.
a93d37 No.15502947
>>15502763
>there is roughly 123 games worth playing on the console tops
>388 games total
1/4 of the games are worth playing? On a console where only a handful of people figured out how to make 3d not shit? That is extremely generous.
c3a73c No.15502952
>>15502947
I think even in the more generous window of worth trying there's maybe about 60 n64 games that are worth a try. Many of which will not be for everyones taste but you might find something you'll like about it. Truly worth playing would be in the 20-30 range, much like the gamecube and wii u for me.
a93d37 No.15502984
>>15502952
A lot of N64 games feel way too clunky or just slow placed. I have a hard time even playing Rare's games. Shit like "Grab the item and carry it here 3 times" gets old (Conkers was a huge offender of this), as opposed to something like Mario 64 or Spyro where the controls are lightning smooth and you're never bogged down by anything.
a93d37 No.15502992
>>15502984
I threw Spyro in there, because it's an example of a platformer at the time which is faster paced, even if it's a PS1 game.
6e6a36 No.15503014
>>15502947
I'm looking it over and I see nothing like Quest 64, all the usual suspects are here and only about 3 redundancies (mario party), and some sports games, which brings it down to the 90s. So it's not 120 it's 94 or so. If you want you can bring that down by simply removing stuff that has a better version like Turok off the list to shave that down but it wouldn't get below 80.
a93d37 No.15503055
>>15503014
>80-90 worthwhile games
I kinda wonder how low the bar is set.
6e6a36 No.15503171
>>15503055
>I kinda wonder how low the bar is set.
I used to think it was 60 as well but when i sat and count that's the number I got.
There is 124 sports titles, the recomended sports titles of that 124 is 14 for fucks sakes. There really isn't a whole swath of games to go through for anything that isn't sports or FPS, 1-3 for everything else.
456158 No.15505029
>>15490460
>No Smash Bros.
>No Custom Robo
>No finished Earthbound 64 as the bonus title
>No Goemon
>No Ogre Battle
>No Harvest Moon 64
What the fuck are they fuckin' thinking?
8e9047 No.15505278
>>15505029
Goemon wouldn't work since it needs a memory pak to save game data.
Also because nu-Konami hates all of their classic IP's.
557f40 No.15509707
You can't have an N64 Classic without Rare games. Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, DK64, Diddy Kong Kong Racing, Blast Corps, etc. Goldeneye wouldn't be worth digging up, imo. Plus Banjo-Tooie had better shootout multiplayer.
5f1d4e No.15509801
>>15490490
>Smash Bros. didn't get good until Melee.
>Implying implications
a45986 No.15511100
>>15509707
Or you could just get Rare Replay.
17fed1 No.15511241
>>15505278
And what's stopping them from emulating a memory pack?
455378 No.15511247
>>15511100
I'm not giving money to Microsoft to buy a console just for one game.
a45986 No.15511273
>>15511247
>Just one game.
>30 games in 1.
>Could also play other games on system.
8c11e0 No.15511338
>>15511273
Rare Replay is the only game worth playing on Xbox One and it's just a compilation of games I've already played on other systems. If my 360 didn't red ring I wouldn't care.
43ba0e No.15511372
>>15511100
Why not just emulate all those games? I mean, I guess you can't do Viva Pinata yet, but surely at least some of these games can be emulated through Dolphin, right?
8c11e0 No.15511373
>>15511273
While I'm at it, if any (((representatives))) are listening, Microsoft is in fact an evil company who want to undermine anything good in this world. This is well established. I'm not going to forget the terrible things they've done to the computing world, the terrible things they've done to the real world and I'm definitely not going to forget the launch of the Xbone when they tried to make always online a requirement. Thankfully Microsoft is now run by incompetents. You're out of your damn mind if you think I'm giving another penny for anything related to Microsoft.
82c7f8 No.15512089
>>15502265
The N64 doesn't have any "game cancelled at 90% completion" made by Nintendo akin to Starfox 2.
The only other forgotten game I could think off would be Ocarina of Time: Master Quest but that already got has the TWW pre-order bonus disk version and the mirrored dungeons, double damage version with OoT 3D. With the latter option still easily available for the public to experience.
8119d4 No.15512195
>>15502984
> orSpyro where the controls are lightning smooth and you're never bogged down by anything.
Except for the load times. Conker may have walked slowly while holding keys or cheese but there were no load times between zones.
d9a903 No.15514419
>>15490177
I can be done with mediocre hardware, it just probably will be an integer scale of a 320x240 native resolution and an equally mediocre framerate
I genuinely wouldn't be that surprised if Nintendo just straight up bought what they needed to put the n64 on a single chip and poped it in beside some terrible Chinesium ARM soc. They did something similar with the iQue Player but flash memory and return on investment was awful so it failed.
Now with this whole "retro is so cash!" shit idiots would be willing to pay a 50 dollar turbo tax to get what is essentially an n64 SOC bolted onto a cheapy Alwinner front end.
40c5f1 No.15514486
How many timeless classics did the N64 even have? Less than 10 that is for sure.
I know Burgers are nostalgic for this system but nobody else bought it then and I doubt they will now.
40c5f1 No.15514501
>>15489953
I don't see the Star Wars games happening. Licensing nightmare, the Mouse isn't cheap.
6db98d No.15514504
You can bet safely on a couple things:
>power supply sold separately
>only 1 gamepad included, gamepads sold separately, MSRP $39.99 (Original Nintendo 64 gamepads not supported)
03503e No.15514528
>>15514501
Most of them are already on PC and still being sold anyway.
WITH GOG RELEASES
17fed1 No.15514543
>>15514501
Hence
>A good chunk of the best N64 games can't be rereleased easily
2832ee No.15514807
>>15489953
>No Mercy
Haha good one OP
There's so much red tape they'd have to go through to even begin contemplating getting that title on the console.
Firstly, the name. World Wildlife Foundation now owns the WWF initials, so the game would have to be re-titled as either "WWE No Mercy" or just "No Mercy". They'd then have to modify hundreds of assets bearing the WWF logo.
After that, they'd take a hacksaw to the roster in order to remove guys that no longer associate with the company, or those who the company no longer want to associate with. Chyna for example. Same with Earl Hebner. And of course Chris Benoit, it goes without saying. All of them would be taken out.
And thirdly, the companies responsible for the game haven't got along since. THQ is no more, the license transferred to 2K. And even so, they parted ways with AKI around 2001, who were in the process of making another WCW title before they folded. That game would end up becoming Def Jam Vendetta. To get any of the games that share No Mercy's engine (including VPW2, which is widely considered the best of them), they'd have to make agreements with Syn Sophia first. Then they'd have to license the WWE branding from 2K if they wanted either NM or WrestleMania 2000.
c30e04 No.15515303
>>15489994
They could hypothetically slip in some of the Earthbound 64 stuff, but they probably deleted all of it.
89372b No.15515619
>>15489953
Nintendo holds rerelase rights for most of these games, Virtual Console/DS ports prove it.
89372b No.15515638
>>15505029
>>15515303
>Earthbound
JUST IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EARTHBOUND 64 GOT A RELEASE, INCLUDING A WESTERN RELEASE
Imagine the asshurt that would ensue if the restored parts of the game take advantage of the emulator hardware, thus making the game impossible to emulate
475c75 No.15516380
inb4 they make a special rom of Pokémon stadium 1+2 exclusively compatible with GO
a759da No.15516389
Give me the best N64 game; pic related
8c11e0 No.15516400
>>15516389
Densha de GO to the pool.
c3a73c No.15516418
>>15515638
Apparently Earthbound 64 sucked and anyone can play it over at brownie brown. It'll probably never be touched again for development reasons.
fc24a5 No.15516431
>>15515638
The emulator won't be stonger than a snapdragon, anon.
c3a73c No.15516436
>>15516431
sad thing is it'll still be better than what can be pulled off on an i9 right now.
a0785c No.15516446
>>15516436
>ARMshit
>better at anything
c3a73c No.15516449
>>15516446
For an N64 emulator designed by Nintendo? Yeah, it's gonna play those 20 games than PC emulators ever have in 18 years.
a0785c No.15516453
>>15516449
>For an N64 emulator designed by Nintendo? Yeah
see
>>15490177
Nintendos official emulator has a very inaccurate floating point emulator. That's why alpha effects are broken and why we get rounding errors on platforms in Super Mario 64 only on the VC version.
6586b0 No.15518393
TENnnn EIGHTY
Thats all that's needed. We're not getting rare now that they're owned by ms
c353ee No.15519024
>>15489953
The Playstation Classic will only have 20 games. I guarantee it will sell well. Moving forward these pieces of shits will have less and less games attached to them. The N64 classic could easily get away with only 15 games if Nintendo wanted to because people are fucking retarded.
f4a6ee No.15519033
>>15519024
I feel like the Playstation Classic is headed for the same pitfall as Playstation Allstars, where it has hardly any of the actual stuff people associate with the Playstation brand, due to Sony owning none of it.
89372b No.15519701
>>15516418
source?
>>15516431
doesn't mean emulating a game that's half N64 emulation half snapdragon will be easy.
9cda23 No.15519725
>>15519033
Looking at the games they've announced it is pretty meh so far, not to mention it'll be limited to games that don't use the dualshock.
82c7f8 No.15520385
>>15519033
>I feel like the Playstation Classic is headed for the same pitfall as Playstation Allstars, where it has hardly any of the actual stuff people associate with the Playstation brand, due to Sony owning none of it.
Also doesn't help that some of those old PS1 games are available on non-Playstation services like Steam/GoG (PS1 Tomb Raider, FFVII) and possibly terrible mobile ports or games with remasters like the Crash/Spyro series. While games (with a few but still not all third party exceptions) on the NES/SNES mini are only available on Nintendo's Virtual Console of Wii/WiiU/3DS.
There is something quite off about the initial announcement that Sony only revealed 5 games out of 20 and only 2 of them are owned by Sony.
>>15519725
>not to mention it'll be limited to games that don't use the dualshock.
I keep thinking they are going to announce a dualshock version (with new games to use it) next year just to get more sales and take advantage of the idiot first adopters who think to scalp it like the NES Mini.
cb0356 No.15520399
>Hay guiz wut official resale of roms on novelty hardware would you want to spend your shekels on?
None, I'd just continue playing n64 roms for free on many devices I already own.
8c418a No.15520414
>>15489971
wasn't Mario 64 remade for DS already
f4a6ee No.15522395
>>15520399
Dude… That's illegal…
a8a270 No.15525699
>>15520414
Yes, but with different controls to account for the touch screen and no analog stick, added content, and patched bugs. The awkward control scheme is probably the biggest reason people prefer the original. I've 100%'d DS twice. It's not as bad once you get used to using the d-pad, but it really needed an analog stick.
a748c3 No.15526739
I wouldn't mind a mario party 1 and 2 machine.
82c7f8 No.15528870
>>15489953
Just had a fucking crazy stupid gimmick idea for the N64 mini.
What if it didn't just have N64 games but also had Game Boy/Color games as well? This would help pad out the number of games included on the hardware while also serving that audience that want a GBC mini classic (but with the downside of not being a portable handheld gaming device). GB emulation could function similar to that of Super Game Boy with color pallet changing or drawing on the screen.
Including GB/GBC games would also allow games like the Pokemon Gen 1/2 titles to be able link up to Pokemon Stadium 1/2. The same could also be done for minor transfer pak bonus unlockable content features of Mario Golf/Tennis N64/GBC titles as mentioned >>15490428.
>>15525699
Have you played it on a 3DS with the circle pad. It won't make it analogue obviously, but should make rotating motions easier.
f9efe4 No.15528885
bf5f22 No.15533319
Whatever it has, I hope it's a commercial failure that actually ends up a net loss for the nip kikes.
a8a270 No.15533521
>>15528870
Yes. It does help a little with diagonal movement and rotations, but it's far from perfect.
354ec6 No.15533736
>>15519701
>source?
The game's quality was the reason given for it's cancellation in the media, and i believe Itoi's blog(https://www.1101.com/nintendo/nin13/nin13_2.htm), but no real translation seems to exist for it. As for the Brownie Brown 1Up studio the dedicated mario asset maker company having the game, no idea.
188e22 No.15533787
>>15511372
Dolphin doesn't play N64 games natively. You need to make the rom specifically configured for the Wii's emulator into a wad. For other games you need to do a rom injection with varying results.
a21a83 No.15533863
>>15490008
>not a dreamcast mini with a library stretching all the way back to the Master System
9ed2d1 No.15536391
I've always shitposted against these little classic consoles but if a N64 classic came out and it had THE PROPER CONTROLLERS. I would pre-order one. N64 controllers are getting harder and harder to come by, and while stick replacements are good enough that you can get by if you really want to play it its nothing compared to the real controllers.
We know the library won't be steller, as OP pointed out, but playing Starfox 64, Ocarina, MM, Goyman and S&P and all those with AN ACTUAL BRAND NEW FRESH OFF THE LINE N64 CONTROLLER is worth the asking price to me.
But I'm sure they will cut corners on it, like Sony is doing with the PS Classic. Take out the analog stick entirely or replace it with a BETTER* modern equivalent.
354ec6 No.15536427
>>15536391
>and while stick replacements are good enough that you can get by if you really want to play it its nothing compared to the real controllers.
Whatever happened to the steel sticks, anyways? I remember people saying they looked good, but that price was just retarded.
9b0901 No.15538742
>>15512089
I could see them adding the Mario Artist games since they're fairly unheard of and some of the few 64DD games that actually reached completion
63b3de No.15538758
I think they're more likely to try a "Game Boy Classic." Tetris and Pokemon alone would sell a bazillion units, and such a device would have actual utility as a simple portable emulation machine.
c3a73c No.15538896
>>15519701
https://earthboundcentral.com/2010/12/interview-with-a-mother-3-debugger/
>Brendan: Well, the president of Brownie Brown said that if I want to try out the N64 prototype, it’s in the meeting room. I wasn’t a Mother fan, but I was trying be enthusiastic about my position there, so I tried it out. As far as I can recall, it was most of the first chapter (with a very Flintstones feel) and some cut scenes. The game crashed toward the end of the chapter.
The games always had issues with long developments and EB64/Mother3 GBA is no exception.
0837b7 No.15539021
>>15490118
>RR64
That'd be on my list. Bamco owns the rights to Ridge Racer; but since they've done sweet and fuck all with it. I'm sure they'd be happy to let Nintendo to include it for a few sheckles up front. Then again they did basically re-release it for the DS so at least there's precedent for it.
I'd wait to hear stories of Autists smashing the thing trying to beat Lizard Nightmare
>>15538758
What if they just remade the Gameboy with the screen tech of the latest handhelds and the ability to play GB up to GBA games? And had Tetris and Pokemon baked in. They'd probably never do it because they're not making any sheckles of the old games it could play.
097497 No.15539768
>>15514807
It sucks that No Mercy will never get a rereleased, it was a great game, one of my top ten.
Also what happened with Earl Hebner?
e11bf1 No.15539824
>>15519033
Yeah PS1 sold 100 million because of games like MGS and FF7. PlayStation thrives on its third party library.
63b3de No.15539834
>>15539021
I had something more like the existing classic systems in mind, a cheap cell phone chip running an emulator with a bunch of prepackaged ROMs. GB only, maybe GBC but definitely not including GBA because muh shekels that would overshadow the 8 bit games. The screen would be the hardest part to get right, I have no idea what it costs to produce a custom LCD but it would probably be too much for Nintendo's liking to do an exact integer multiple of the Game Boy's screen resolution so they'd probably pick something standard and cheap and either have borders or stretch the image to fit. That would work fine if they used a hi-DPI phone LCD but that's a waste and the Switch and 3DS would look bad by comparison.
65f669 No.15540119
>>15512089
I've heard that Ura Zelda ( The cancelled 64DD game expansion for OoT) was nearing completion when it was canned. Though I've also heard that a lot of it's content got recycled into future zelda games ( eg. 7 day npc cycle adapted into 3 day cycle in MM, unused dungeons repurposed for WW and TP etc.). I doubt it would be included, but it's always been something that I've been interested in so it would be cool if it was.
b79856 No.15548129
I hate this "Mini" meme, these are all just plug & play consoles.
a5d37b No.15558365
>>15512089
The only other "lost" Nintendo game I can think of is the English version of the Game Boy title "X" (that early 3D first person tank simulator game made by Argonaut before Starfox). Dylan Cuthbert has mentioned an English build was made by was rejected for release by 90's era NoA as not being a good fit for the market.
>>15538742
The next question with any 64DD games would be are they English? Otherwise they are never getting re-released.
>>15540119
That seems to be the case with Zelda series, if a dungeon can't get into one game, it will get repurposed for a sequel (TWW missing dungeons got repurposed for TP).