e38e3a No.15476381
>Be Sony.
>Decide to put out PS1 Classic.
>Have a huge back-catalog of hundreds of great games to choose from.
>Only pick 20.
>Price PS1 Classic at $100.
What is it with these HD plug-in-play consoles and only having a few games on them? The NES Classic had 30 games, but the SNES Classic only had 21. Why such a reduction of titles?
ed905f No.15476383
7f06f7 No.15476391
<plug-in-play
lol
In all serious though, this >>15476383
127d3b No.15476393
>>15476381
>What is it with these HD plug-in-play consoles and only having a few games on them?
People will buy trash
>Why such a reduction of titles?
They're trying to make a quick buck, and these are the only titles the probably have some deal already worked out with due to past releases.
9275a4 No.15476394
Storage Space costs money goy.
e38e3a No.15476395
>>15476383
The 90s generations of consoles had tons of way better games than the stuff from the 80s. You'd figure that plug-in-play consoles of them would have even more games on them.
c00a48 No.15476402
>What is it with these HD plug-in-play consoles and only having a few games on them?
probably got a good deal on cheap memory. The NES/SNES mini only have 512MB of flash storage, a lot of those CD games are several hundred Megabytes. Not like it's a lot or anything but there's probably at least 8GB of memory on there.
127d3b No.15476403
>>15476401
Fuck off back to Cuckchan
eaf24b No.15476405
>>15476401
Shouldn't you be playing Fortnite right now, cuckchanner?
954821 No.15476408
>>15476381
How you thing sony will pay for it's failing buisnes.
18d261 No.15476418
Already a thread. Use the catalog faggot.
>>15472158
b5e26c No.15476423
>>15476381
Everyone has realized the faux-nostalgic hipster market is full of retards that will pay out the ass for a cheap chinese emulation box full of overrated games from that era. These people are too stupid to use emulators of make use of older hardware, and the shitty indie trash they love makes them "nostalgic" for older games.
The indie cabal is lucky those people won't play these things for more than an hour, because they would realize the indie market is nothing but shallow knockoffs of older, better games.
127d3b No.15476448
>>15476423
>These people are too stupid to use emulators of make use of older hardware, and the shitty indie trash they love makes them "nostalgic" for older games.
It's worse than that. Old PS1 systems are a dime a dozen at pawn shops and antique/thrift stores. I see them all the time when I'm out scouring for vintage things to buy.
1e9820 No.15476462
>>15476381
Could be a internal "cost" value for all the games put together leading to the final number.
For example using Wii Points to calculate the value, because I don't know the standard cost per title in NA with 3DS/Wii U.
>500 Wii Points * 30 NES games = 15000 Points
>800 Wii Points * 20 SNES game = 16000 Points (+ an extra 800 because of Star Fox 2 which becomes 16800)
If this "target value" of around 15000 to 17000 continues with an N64 classic it might only have 15-17 games since they were worth 1000 Wii Points.
698ff3 No.15476480
Not to excuse it, but PS1 games are far bigger. Most of them are like 700MB (about 2700 times larger than the average NES game, which is about 256KB, and 500 times the size of the average SNES game, at about 1.4 MB), so they'd need like 16 GB to store them all. The emulation is also computationally heavier, so they have to put in faster, more expensive SoCs. They have to cut costs where they can.
You'd have to be a chump to actually buy one, but I see why they cost more and have fewer titles.
1e9820 No.15476485
>>15476462
Just to add though, now with the existence of the Playstation Mini, Nintendo could make a N64 Mini to rival it and go for 20+ titles to look like they have more value for money per mini console.
d21071 No.15476497
>>15476444
>The guy Anon is replying to does not mention Quake.
>People that played Quake will still only be in their 30/40s still way too young to be Boomers.
>Cuckchan does not know that Baby Boomers are all around 70 and don't know image boards are a thing let alone post on them.
>It is the Cuckchan that actually brought up Quake in the first place. No one else mentioned Quake.
>Cuckchan is old enough to remember Quake when it first came out.
>40 year old Cuckchan losing his shit and most likely his bladder control as well.
23ad11 No.15476515
>>15476485
Three big issues.
One, emulation is fucked to hell and back of the N64, and for once, they couldn't get away with "good enough" because it's simply not.
Two, some of their biggest games were made by a company currently owned by Microsoft, Rare, and only Donkey Kong 64 could be sold without getting their permission.
Three, one of the biggest N64 games, on top of being made by Rare, would also have many licensing issues due to being a movie licensed game, that being Goldeneye.
Anything less than this would make an N64 classic an underwhelming bomb. There was a reason the SNES Classic prominently featured Square RPGs.
2d6337 No.15476519
>>15476395
>The 90s generations of consoles had tons of way better games than the stuff from the 80s
t. Millennial soynigger
0693e0 No.15476526
>>15476497
>being this assblasted
9d01b6 No.15476528
>ps1 classic appears to be the no-analog stick version of controllers
>so pretty much everything from ape escape onwards is off the book already
anyone who buys these things needs to learn how a fucking emulator works
2d6337 No.15476540
>>15476526
>>15476444
>>15476401
Seriously go back >>>/cuckchan/ and kys
3a15cb No.15476542
>>15476519
>Having contrarian opinions for the sake of being contrarian
Honestly that sounds more what like today's millennial hipster soygoys than that other post
771d2b No.15476544
>>15476497
>Cuckchan does not know that Baby Boomers are all around 70 and don't know image boards are a thing let alone post on them.
You're in for a ride kiddo. They are here on this very website >>>/qresearch/
698ff3 No.15476548
>>15476515
>One, emulation is fucked to hell and back of the N64, and for once, they couldn't get away with "good enough" because it's simply not.
The Virtual Console N64 emulator on the Wii was good enough for them to make money on it. They could probably repurpose those same emulators for an ARM SOC.
I think you're underestimating the N64 library. You throw every Mario game (including Mario Party, Mario sports games, and Paper Mario), both Zelda games + Master Quest, both Pokemon Stadiums, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong 64, Star Fox, Kirby, and F-Zero X, and some other odds and ends, and you'd have a library that people would drop money on.
d21071 No.15476557
>>15476526
>40 year old cuckchan so desperate to fit in.
You need to chill with the midlife crisis Anon. Go buy a motorbike and pay a 20 year old to be your GF.
>>15476544
Fuck. Is no place safe?
23ad11 No.15476572
>>15476548
That's not a bad library, but once again, it'd be a lacking one. Like I said, there's a reason the SNES Classic prominently featured Square RPGs.
Without Rare, they lose Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, Diddy Kong Racing and Killer Instinct.
The emulation quality might be serviceable for the games you listed, though a lot of them have emulation issues, even if the're minor. But if you wanted to get Rare games in as well, you'd have to iron out the real flaws in the emulator, and that'd be quite difficult.
81ee67 No.15476578
>>15476557
>Fuck. Is no place safe?
How have you not yet heard about the Qoomers?
1a727d No.15476595
>>15476548
Maybe it's because I haven't looked too much into the N64's library, but if with the PSX you could easily make a top 100 must play games(even if they include multiplats), or have a list like pic related with 170 games(again it has multiplats), 32 being JRPGs, I have never seen the same thing with the N64. Sure it has Resident Evil and Tony Hawks Pro Skater, but most people think of the PSX one or the PC port, not the N64. So perhaps 20 10 of the best exclusive games are exactly all hipsters know about the N64 library.
61f491 No.15476605
>>15476515
N64 is fairly limited in titles. Basicly limited to
>Mario 64
>OoT*
>MM*
>Star Fox 64*
>F-Zero (maybe stick in the DD expansion stuff)
>DK 64
>Mario Kart 64*
>Diddy Kong Racing
>Custom Robo and Custom Robo v2 (if they translate it)
>Paper Mario 64
>Kirby 64
Third party they could plausibly license
>Bomberman 64 series
>Goemon
>Hybrid Heaven
>Ogre Battle 64
>Mischief Makers
*Has a 3DS port or (in case of Mario Kart) its contents are on a more modern game
That's 12 first party games (4 racing games, 1 2.5d platformer, 2 collect a thons 3d platformers, the Zeldas, a pair of fighting games and one RPG) plus 4 first party titles
Rest are fucked without transfer pack (Pokemon Stadium, Stadium 2, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis), RareWare (Banjo, Banjo 2, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini), big licenses that aren't a simple matter of "we'd like more money on our 2 decade old game" (Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron)
d21071 No.15476607
>>15476578
>Qoomers
The fuck is that? Is this got to do with that Qanon shit you faggots are trolling old folk with?
c00a48 No.15476611
>>15476595
The N64 library is pretty damn tiny. That PS1 list is also incredibly underwhelming, that system is full of awesome games.
698ff3 No.15476616
>>15476572
The VC games had some issues, but not enough that the average person cared. And the VC games didn't actually use a single emulator, but each title used its own emulator. I used to do VC game injection, to package games that weren't released on VC by replacing the rom in another game's WAD. It was pretty much trial-and-error, where you'd try with tons of official games to see which one's emulator worked the best for the game you were trying.
You're right that it would be lacking without those Rare titles. I don't doubt they'd be able to negotiate some of those rights from Microsoft, though. I still think that it would probably sell like hotcakes even without those games.
>>15476595
The N64 had a lot of good games, but the PSX unarguably had more games, and many better games. Most of the good N64 games were either Rare or Nintendo. You'd still be able to easily fill it with 20 or 30 good games.
I wouldn't call the N64 "hipster" though. That doesn't apply to any mainline Nintendo console.
e38e3a No.15476618
>>15476519
>"I would rather play the original Metroid with its' inferior design instead of Super Metroid."
61f491 No.15476633
If Nintendo was smart they'd do a Gameboy Micro shelled retro gameboy including three generations of gameboy (Original, Color, Advance). Ultra-portability could give plenty of reason to buy one beyond "just emulate it".
>>15476605
Forgot Excitebike 64 on license issues (it uses real people, which I presume is why it never came out on the virtual console). Not sure how I forgot to put Smash Bros down though.
>>15476616
>You'd still be able to easily fill it with 20 or 30 good games.
30 is a stretch if you require they be in a condition to rerelease. All the Rare games, Excitebike 64, the three Star Wars games, the M rated titles, games that lose a lot without the transfer pack (Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Stadium, Stadium 2), Mario Party 1 (The one that caused serious hand injury) and some others are all out of the question.
000000 No.15476647
>>15476381
Aside from Soyny being shit, those are for NPCs, those on the 75% side. The literal mindless masses with no capacity for thought.
Why pay for any game at all when piracy and emulation will always make them available for free?
Stop feeding the cancer and pirate everything.
>>15476444
>Impotent cuckchanner is impotent to make any memes.
1a727d No.15476661
>>15476633
>If Nintendo was smart they'd do a Gameboy Micro shelled retro gameboy including three generations of gameboy (Original, Color, Advance). Ultra-portability could give plenty of reason to buy one beyond "just emulate it".
Why do that, when they could release three different Gameboy Micros?
Another thing about the N64 library, is that it seems to lack 2D sprite games, and even with 2D games there aren't all that many, the most famous, I guess, being Yoshi's Story and Kirby 64(though I'd say it's more 2.5 D).
Though again, this is coming from someone who only took a passing glance at the library, and who only played Mario and Zelda on it, so I guess I am a perfect indicator for the casual market :^), at least when it comes to the N64(was a PC fag, during it's run).
78b998 No.15476694
>>15476647
Hey, I thought cuckchan blocked Tor end nodes? What are you doing stealing their memes and posting their garbage here?
df5e9f No.15476732
>>15476394
This makes sense in regard to the PS1 as its games were fairly large (eg: 750mb~) but for the NES and SNES whose entire library of worthwhile games are about 64mbs and 512mbs respectively, it's likely more of a licensing issue. While a developer can get a license to create a game for the system, that doesn't give the owner of the system any claim or right to the developer's work. So rather than dealing with licensing issues they simply stick entirely with first party games.
27b4ef No.15476742
>>15476381
SNES roms are usually around 2-3 megs. NES roms are a bit smaller. PS1 games though came on CDs, man. Some of them were a couple gigs in total but at the very least, every one is several hundred megs. So you're talking about hardware that can run the emulator, enough storage space tro hold the games (and gamesaves) and also the controllers, plus the cost of 20 games.
That said, the PSP runs PS1 games and I think for $100 you could probably get the system and an SD card with like 64 gigs of space. Now you have get 20 games from the PS store too though which would run you another ~$150.
So all-in-all, $100 is not a terrible price.
435471 No.15476750
"But the Sega Mega Drive only had 6 games!"
e03715 No.15476783
>>15476742
>90s games coming in gigabytes
your entire post is bait, here's your (you)
21e5e6 No.15476787
>Genesis classic console has 80 games on it
DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T
78b998 No.15476793
>>15476783
He said in total. Maybe he thinks the final size of JRPGS that come in many CDs is over a gigabyte, although that doesn't account for the duplicate assets and engine.
7a7d3f No.15476795
I mean if you could make money outta thin air wouldn't you?
Sony did nothing wrong.
If goyim are all too happy to be milked, let them.
7eec56 No.15476801
>>15476405
>>15476540
>>15476403
>NPCs get pissed off when called out
It's like a chat bot that gets annoyed when you call it a bot.
be65d4 No.15476813
>>15476787
>atgames
it's trash
78b998 No.15476816
>>15476801
>steals meme from cuckchan
>pretends to be an "independent thinker"
d957c8 No.15476826
>>15476801
Don't give them any attention, most of the posters here are slack jawed faggot NPCs that are easy to manipulate like the cattle they are. They're all bark and no bite, just plain keyboard warriors.
1e9820 No.15476835
>>15476605
>Mario Golf, Mario Tennis
They aren't fucked without it. Own MT N64, a few tennis courses (with different stats) are lost from the N64 version and the GBC human characters are lost, but the game was complete. MT GBC is missing 4 Mario characters, 4 minigames and a stage and is more fucked by the lack of transfer pack.
They even released them on the VC without any modifications despite the fact that they should have included the (unobtainable) content.
Other games you could include
>Pokemon Snap
>Pokemon Puzzle League (puzzle game inclusion)
>Dr Mario 64 (another puzzle game)
>One of the Crusin'N series racing games (USA, World, Exotica)
>1080 Snowboarding
>Wave Race 64
>Pilotwings
>Mario Party 2 or 3 (we all know why we are never getting a MP1 re-release)
>Sin & Punishment (if desperate)
>Super Smash Bros
3rd party
>Ridge Racer
>>15476611 (checked)
How many games on that list can be played without the dual analogues though?
>>15476633 (checked)
>Forgot Excitebike 64 on license issues (it uses real people, which I presume is why it never came out on the virtual console)
It doesn't use real people and it came out on the Wii U VC (but not Wii).
27b4ef No.15476844
>>15476783
Nice reading comprehension.
78b998 No.15476871
>>15476831
You got the version of this image that's aimed at normalfags and makes fun of their phrases like "who hurt you"?
dcd664 No.15476892
>>15476401
I have a better picture of a NPC right here
120cf1 No.15479823
a5cfc4 No.15479858
>>15476485
That would be acceptable, considering the N64 only had ~20 games that aren't shit.
a5cfc4 No.15479881
>>15476519
>sonyigger
>talking about games IN GENERAL from the 90's
Stay mad grumps, enjoy your C64 and Colicovision. Your taste is shit.
a90039 No.15479926
>>15476544
Trump getting elected really fucked this place.
90404f No.15479974
>>15476605
There would be a Transfer Pak-like thing to the Nintendo 64 Classic controller that connects to a 3ds so it would receive RBY/GSC VC titles and sends/receives data between the 3ds and the Transfer Pak so Stadium and Stadium 2 might be possible.
edc207 No.15480051
>>15476519
The 90's were the best decade for vidya, and it was all thanks to the Playstation 1 rising from the ashes and literally going from underdog to king by opening doors for people from all kinds of life to make videogames and forcing competitors to git gud.
Before then, all you had was nintendo and sega. The former is a greedy kike company that's going the way of Atari pre-crash and the latter is a literal jewish company with nothing to show, and both were abusing their fame to shit out absolute trash gimmick systems and overpriced games.
Face the fucking facts nigger.
90404f No.15480068
>>15480051
But the thing is, Sony used to be good. Now it's a greedy kike company that's pozzed with pozzed movies on the side such as Cisbusters and Sausage Party
edc207 No.15480327
>>15480068
Yes, Sony is kiked as shit too. Has been since the PS3 days. Their movies are dogshit and they're pushing them into their vidya department for better results.
I miss 90's Sony, they were literally doing their thing out of honor back when they started.
72b984 No.15480471
>>15476381
people will hack it in a week to run the entire back-catalog. Hopefully, you downloaded a full romset before the emulator apocalypse.
47f657 No.15480530
>>15476395
The snes had a lot fewer games than the NES in total, and fewer quality games as well.
27b4ef No.15480568
>>15479858
PS1 kinda sucked when you think about it though. A handful of my favorite games are on PS1 but if you asked me to name 20 good ones, I couldn't do it.
79275c No.15480573
>>15476816
>back to 4chan
Interesting to hear that considering 8chan is governed just like 4chan now.
bcb7f5 No.15480607
>>15480573
at least this place doesn't have autisitc google captchas designed for iphones every post
79275c No.15480619
>>15480607
>autistic
Oh boy, here we go.
e38e3a No.15480696
>>15480530
When it came to multi-plats, the Sega Genesis version of a game was almost always better. 3rd parties favored Sega during the 90s and for good reason because Nintendo had been dicks to them back when they were a monopoly in the 80s.
They still are dicks. That's why 3rd parties have mostly abandoned them. I mean, sure they're getting games for the Switch but they're almost all just inferior ports of games that were released the previous generation.
ab805b No.15480743
>>15480498
This chart captures the entire experience of browsing Twitter or Facebook.
2b90a1 No.15480779
>>15476381
The way they save games. They do save states and take up lots of space.
The NES classic and SNES classic have enough space in them for the game they have, plus their saves if you fill ever save slot.
8c90ad No.15480785
>size of psx games
a lot of times that was just cd quality audio filling up the disk, especially for older titles. Ridge Racer with the FMV and music cut out is … 3MB. Castlevania SOTN is 30mb. Granted there's only so much they could do to compress audio but still if they wanted to they could shave off even more size-wise than PBP's already do. (They hardly had incentive while selling PSP and Vita memory cards, after all.)
8c90ad No.15480794
>save states
it's not like you have to copy the ROM to do a save state, these consoles all have a tiny amount of RAM. You can fit like 50-100 games on a nes/snes classic if you hack it, they have plenty of space left over on their internal flash.
b50bfc No.15480822
>>15476595
>Still not a single Gex game on that list
seriously what the fuck
1a727d No.15480856
>>15480785
The thing is nobody wants to bother optimizing the games for the new PSX Emulator Box, sure if you took a JRPG with 4CDs that shared the same map, with minor differences, you might compress it to the size of 1.5 or 2CDs, but that would mean going through the source code(which might not even exist anymore), probably even remaking the game and recompile it for a single disk, instead of multiple. Nobody wants to put that much effort into it, and with DVDs and Blurays, when they "remaster" the game, they can just fit the 4 CDs onto one single DVD, without any optimizations.
e38e3a No.15481041
>>15480822
I second that! Gex was the shit!
c8e2c5 No.15481094
364536 No.15481096
>>15481041
More disc space means more inane jokes!
75a9ab No.15481108
>>15480822
>>15481041
>no Gex
>no Unholy War
>no Legacy of Kain
I think Sony wants us to just forget Crystal Dynamics ever existed.
c8e2c5 No.15481112
I'm going to laugh when the bootup sound is a lossy mp3 file and sounds like shit on hifi setups.
b50bfc No.15481147
>>15481041
>Dream about getting Rayman 4 and Gex 4
>Then realize if Gex 4 came out today, it'd be filled to the brim with reddit memes