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9f5fd7 No.15453209
Nintendo's Online service is just disaster after disaster. Are they trying to repeat another WiiU situation? The Online strategy would be straight up suicidal if not for the price, even then I see no real benefits other than Cloud Saves. Not to mention the Cloud Saves themselves are only limited to people who have a year subscription with "no plans" for fucking local saves. Not to mention that no one outside of people our age give a shit about NES games and even then the SNES and Genesis outdid that generation by 100, not to mention that the Switch IS capible of emulation up to the Wii so the excuse that they're only focused on NES/SNES games is fucking bullshit. What a depressing shitshow, not only has Nintendo refused to add basic online features, but they're literally forcing people to pay just to justify the existance of a service. It's really pathetic honestly.
Anyway I'd like to hear what other people think about this embarassment of a service. Could it improve over time? yeah, but it needs a fuckload of work.
646b24 No.15453216
It sucks, it's shit, it's poop, and i don't like it
The price tag for only getting online and nothing else of value is such an insanely jewish tactic that i'll be surprised if there isn't backlash from big name critics.
9f5fd7 No.15453222
>>15453216
Pretty much, like I think everyone wanted Nintendo to take some clues from Sony and Xbox, however it seems like they took the worst ones. Not to mention the OS is barebones as fuck.
831685 No.15453224
Wait. There are no local saves?!
646b24 No.15453228
>>15453222
I don't mind a barebones OS,i do mind not giving incentives to your paying customers though beyond what they could already easily acquire via other means.
9f5fd7 No.15453235
>>15453228
I'm just saying that they clearly don't give a shit about the hardware and are just interested in making new gimmicks.
9f5fd7 No.15453240
>>15453224
Yeah, Nintendo is retarded.
646b24 No.15453282
>>15453272
>using tor
>complaining about exploitation of child
really makes me thonk
6e6461 No.15453302
Friendly reminder that Sega is the only company who did Paid Online right. SegaNet was your ISP, which you could use on any device for general access to the internet. So they actually offered you something of real value, rather than just gating you off from something you already pay for. They also offered a free Dreamcast with a two year contract, a move which only Microsoft is now desperate enough to starting to pick up on almost 20 years later. But unlike the Super Kike Bros. of Sony/MS/Nintendo - Sega didn't block you from access to their network if you didn't pay up, and everybody got to enjoy the private servers where they were available.
eaf1a3 No.15453323
What is there to really say? It's shit, Nintendo didn't even bother trying and simply sold it as is because they know people will pay for it in mass. All around the time Smash comes out. Once they're nice and settled they'll justify their purchase and probably double down in the hopes that more online games will spawn that are worth playing which I doubt there will be many.
Still waiting on a good time to get a used Switch so I can softmod it. When that scene becomes fullproof, then I might consider it.
5d8d64 No.15453325
>>15453209
Thank god some people are talking about this shitty paid online.
>>15453302
Less Paid Online and more like your ISP, like you said.
>>15453282
Didn't know using tor made you abuse kids.
646b24 No.15453329
>>15453325
It doesn't,but it's just interesting that i see people complaining about child misuse while using a service primarily known for that
97f74e No.15453334
>>15453329
Tor has helped catch pedos since they're stupid enough to think they are safe by using it.
4d570b No.15453492
There are no deticated servers for paid online. Fuck'em. Nintendo could have released an subscription service for ROMs while keeping the other games online for free. This would've been fine. An option to buy individual life long licenses to ROMs alongside the subscription for those without reliable internet should have been a thing too (it was called Virtual Console).
Nevertheless, paid online being bundled with NES ROMs after take downs of ROM sites just screams bad PR.
deaddd No.15453599
>>15453209
I hope their PR continues to tank, with the online. Especially once it drops and everyone who wasn't expecting it/in the know, is blindsided when suddenly they have to shell out twenty more bucks for access to it.
This is downright evil, since they very clearly can afford to run the online service, without needing to charge consumers, and the only reason someone'll pay for this is if they want to play with their friends.
b101ef No.15453616
>even normalfags and fanboys are finally going against it around the socialsphere after months of trying to damage control it with "wait and see"
Too little too late, but it's still always nice to see the backlash, even if just like with the Xbox and Playstation they'll too fall in line eventually when they want to play their favorite games like Smash.
At least it gave me these cute Peach animations, so it's not all bad
646b24 No.15453624
>>15453616
What makes you say it's too late?
d54547 No.15453631
>>15453616
Why is she reminding me of the Orz from star control 2
b14e4e No.15453636
people like pic related actually exist and are nintendo ambassadors who DO IT FOR FREE
just to shill and pretend it's cool.
646b24 No.15453642
>>15453636
You're intentionally provoking and you deserve whatever happens to you
9e2c9a No.15453660
>Trying to repeat another WiiU situation?
At least the WiiU didn't make you pay to play online. Though Nintendo has already made bank with the Switch, at this point they are just milking the goy to the last drop and the retards who already bought into it are too deep to stop giving Nintendo money.
83ebc6 No.15453663
I actually wonder if nintendo would back away from the paid online because of the backlash.
1aff04 No.15453695
They also delete your save files if you don't renew subscription and can't play your nes games unless you login using your switch every week. Wtf is this shit. Not that I will pay for paid online.
b101ef No.15453704
>>15453624
To continue playing Splatoon 2 and to play Smash Ultimate when it comes around, the majority will fall in line to pay for this service. I suspect the backlash will get them to adjust some things here and there, but I don't expect a major boycott, they absolutely will not get rid of the payment in general (would love to be wrong) and it being lackluster will likely stay that way for a long while.
>>15453631
The lips probably.
956485 No.15453726
>>15453704
sure ppl won't just go back to having game nights at each others houses?
6e679e No.15453773
I still can't believe the NES Controllers, aren't even joycon are potentially only usable in NSMBUD and NES classics and on top of all of that, ARE $60 AND YOU HAVE TO BE A NINTENDO ONLINE SUBSCRIBER to buy them that is so astronomically retarded it isn't funny.
And that's not even getting into how retarded it is that the Switch can support up to 8 controllers, but for whatever reason you CAN'T use any Wii/Wii U Classic/pro Controllers, yet, somehow despite all what you would think to the contrary. SUPPORTS FUCKING GAMECUBE CONTROLLERS, WHICH DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH BUTTONS TO WORK IN A LOT OF GAMES.
5d8d64 No.15453822
>>15453773
They only support gamecube controllers because of all the smash tryhards.
6e679e No.15453832
>>15453822
True, but that still doesn't change the fact that it's unbelievable retarded that in an age of Bluetooth peripherals that have lasted two generations, there's really no excuse for controller options to be so unbelievably limited.
Especially when you consider that none of the Wired controllers that have been licensed, and from what I heard, are allowed to be licensed lack gyro, and the dock, once again, only has two ports.
6e6461 No.15453871
>>15453704
On the bright side, Microsoft may have just signed the death warrant on paid online networks. By opening up their platform to PC, and then not charging them a dime (because they can't since they don't control the hardware), they've created a sense of cognitive dissonance so hard in their dwindling fanbase that it's not just going to go away. Especially not when they're getting fucking curb stomped by Mouse & Keyboard users on better hardware, and doing so for free. So Microsoft has started to shift their strategy over towards GamePass/All Access in order to hock their monthly subscriptions (which they might be able to get PC users to bite if they make it worthwhile). From there, they'll likely abolish the paywall to bring both platforms more in line with each other. Sony will probably lag behind a generation, as they did getting the paywall put up - but if Microsoft makes some significant sales inroads, they'll follow suit. That will leave Nintendo in the indefensible position of being the only system out there with a paid network, and being Nintendo - not even a slick front-end for everything to provide the illusion of getting a service. They'll crumble too soon after that.
All in all, it's a further step towards getting rid of hardware dependency and further digital distribution/streaming and getting you signed up for a game access subscription. They can't very well get you to pay for both the game rental package AND the multiplayer separately. They'll roll them both into the same package, drop the multiplayer dependency since you're now dependent on the subscription to even get your games at all.
So, one step forward - a thousand fucking miles back. But there might be a few good years where online multiplayer is free across the last few consoles before it goes all digital.
c583ee No.15453883
Am I understanding it right that you have to pay for online more than once per console if multiple people use it?
Fucking hell.
6e679e No.15453886
>>15453883
There's a family plan thing.
717107 No.15453903
It's over, Nintendo is doomed, their paid online is shit (even for 20 bucks a year) Sony and Microsoft offer better features (such as cloud saves, free games, and local saves)
Looks like Sony wins this gen, PSN+ is most definitely worth the money in comparison.
6d805d No.15453907
On the bright side, paying $5 for multi-player is very generous compared to XBL and PSN as long as you can find 6 other people to share a family plan with. Of course it doesn't feel right to con innocents but if you have 6 Nintendrone friends/relatives, go for it then and split the cost amongst yourselves.
2d0b14 No.15453915
00a5de No.15453923
>Video only makes a slight aside about the blowback from consumers not in the know.
It's a family entertainment system. The mom or dad who bought it for their kids or even themselves are not going to be the same ones who check up online all the time about this sort of thing. They're going to get mad. They're going to not subscribe and continue playing single player. I just hope the business model fails horribly so it isn't repeated again.
3debb6 No.15454075
it's over nintendo is finished
988e1a No.15455380
So why'd the last thread get kill?
9f2b82 No.15455581
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I can't believe idiots in the Direct's comments section are actually defending this paid online bullshit. They're acting like a celebrity cult even calling Nintendo "Ninty" wtf is wrong with these people?
9f2b82 No.15455584
>>15453616
Don't count on it. Fanboy faggots are sucking major dick in the direct video which has way more views and activity.
7974cf No.15455591
>>15453903
>my shit is better than your shit
>>>>>wins a gen
you're supposed to be embarrassed by all this, not proud of it
9f2b82 No.15455602
>>15455591
This. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony are all corrupt as shit and are only making the industry worse with their self-serving greedy faggotry. .
dc3068 No.15455604
>>15455581
>celebrity cult even calling Nintendo "Ninty"
That's been around here as well. Also always note, on official channels of big corporations - for every genuine comment there are 10 paid marketer ones.
898720 No.15455607
>>15455581
Nintendo Directly in the trash.
9f2b82 No.15455623
>>15455607
God if only. There will still be too many people with retarded brand loyalties keeping them afloat, like EA, Sony and MS. The only way to get a message/protest through is by paying with your wallet, but as long as blind loyalists keep shilling and coughing up their cash, said message will never be heard and no good change will occur within a company.
30480e No.15455624
>>15453923
>Give me the phone, the other phone's dead and we can't find the charger.
>No, I'm on teamspeak!
>Dammit son, you maxed out the data playing those darn Nintendo games, now we'll have to cancel your subscription and mobile hotspot so that we can pay the rent.
I can see how it'll backfire.
06e538 No.15455653
>>15453663
There's money to be made. No amount of bad press has ever
EVER
stopped a company.
bc5c77 No.15455714
The most entertaining part about this to me is how badly Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot here. Not only is the fan reaction to this overwhelmingly negative (most posts in the Splatoon 2 plaza right now are "goodbye everyone" and "Remember: Splatoon 2 online dies this month"), but there's an important precedent they're ignoring.
Necessity is the mother of invention. It usually doesn't take very long for hackers to figure out the inner workings of a console, and from there quickly come fixes for essential services the manufacturer didn't include. For example, the original Wii got hacked almost immediately and added support for larger SD cards and playing DVDs; both features Nintendo left out even though the hardware was capable of it.
By contrast, the Playstation 3: Sony cleverly sidestepped the whole thing by not region locking it, and by including Linux support right out of the box. Nobody NEEDED to hack the system to get the features they wanted, and as such, nobody tried. Sony enjoyed a blissfully hack-free experience up until, in a fit of inexplicable stupidity, they decided to kill custom OS support. It was mere months later that the PS3 had custom firmware and piracy.
TLDR; Nintendo is retarded to pull this shit on a system that already has a widely known hardware-level exploit they can't patch out, and is therefore even MORE hacker-friendly than any of the previous ones.
Expect fan-made custom free online for the Switch to appear within the year.
06e538 No.15455728
>>15455714
>Expect fan-made custom free online for the Switch to appear within the year.
This makes me want to play online even less.
2384bb No.15455759
Only 20 bucks a year doesnt even justify that bullshit.
I'd rather just buy a meat lovers pizza with that kind of money.
>>15453323
Anon you fucking idiot you waited too long.
Nintendo have been releasing non exploitable switches into the wild for the past 2 or 3 months.
You could have just bought a used one a few months ago and just kept it in your closet for a year until piracy becomes perfect but you waited like a retard.
1b0a22 No.15455778
>>15455759
There are still thousands of perfectly hackable and unfixable Switch systems floating around the market, though. It's not late.
However, it's still shitty hardware coupled with an upcoming even shittier online "service".
The actual 'too late' period will come whenever Nintendo makes the inevitable New! Switch XL + with better battery/screen/storage - which will have the hw exploit patched out.
2384bb No.15455780
>>15453616
Holy shit that comment section is tearing Nintendo to shreds.
And Nintendo wont do a damn thing about it.
1b0a22 No.15455787
>>15455780
Wait, what? Comments are on?
I'll get some popcorn.
6e6461 No.15455791
>>15455581
>They're acting like a celebrity cult even calling Nintendo "Ninty" wtf is wrong with these people?
That's nothing new… people get personally invested in products they, well invest in - and it's all the worse with millenial soy golems who use product branding as a substitute for character and their kids who use social media as a substitute for real human connections follow the twitter feeds of their favorite companies and mistake the antics of some PR mouthpiece as a personification for the company.
They literally can't differentiate between person and corporation. At best, they might consider corporations as "groups of people" - when in reality, they are nothing of the sort. Corporations are their own entity, financial predators, that are comprised of people - but the people are so bound up in the power structure of the company that they're little more than cogs in a machine. Even the higher-ups are living highly compartmentalized lives where their actions and values as discrete human beings out of the office are completely detached from their jobs within the corporation. When they act in the interests of the corporation, it is more accurate to describe them in terms of cells in the body of a larger organism. A skin cell isn't a person, nor is a synaptic firing a personality. They are just part of a conglomerate that extends beyond the individual.
At best you might be able to get a privately owned company with a strong CEO/Owner who directs the company like the captain of his own personal ship - but once they go publicly traded (which Nintendo is), then all hope is lost.
b621ea No.15455797
>i don't like this therefore its a disaster
retard
bc5c77 No.15455801
>>15455778
Nintendo could probably sell even more Switches if they made a Switch XS, to be perfectly honest; make one with a SMALLER screen and actually decent battery life, to appeal to all those people who insist on pretending it's a portable. If they give it an HDMI-out in the bottom to hook it up to the TV, it'd basically be what the Vita should have been.
>>15455780
Nintendo really should've seen this coming. Introducing paid online to a system that has only one real online game was stupid to begin with, even before the bad press of taking down the ROM sites in order to sell ancient NES games.
1b0a22 No.15455811
That Luigi section with the savedata is hilarious, and perhaps even false advertising.
Even if you backup, you are fucked with some games like Splatoon because backups won't be supported. Local save backups? Nope, they're too scared of savegame exploits.
This is one instance where Sony and MS get a point for allowing manual, USB save data backup entirely for free.
>>15455801
That might just be possible. I still laugh whenever I see people calling the switch "portable".
It'd still have the Tegra boot exploit fixed, however.
4d570b No.15455829
>>15453832
Lack of Wii Remote support is understandable. There is no port to power a sensor bar. Granted a USB adapter could solve this easily. As for why no Wii U pro controller support, it's because Nintendo wants you to buy the Switch pro controller instead.
>>15455714
Nintendo will release new Switch hardware and make old Switch obsolete down to not supporting it with updates. This is how they will fix the exploit.
3beade No.15455831
Don't expect anything.
To anyone even remotely optimistic about any backlash, you're fucking delusional. EA got backlash over Battlefront II, remember? Most downvoted comment in Reddit history, and what the fuck did that do? Nothing. Took until another disaster entirely for EA to be affected at all.
Nintendo doesn't care about their reputation. They're too established to have a reputation to lose. Shutting down fan games and rom sites didn't get them any flack, the failure of the Wii U was forgotten the moment the Switch was revealed, so on, so forth. Pic related. Their stocks have been hovering around the same number since mid-June, and that was a result of an underwhelming E3. The paid online didn't lose them shit, and once Smash comes out and sells like crack, that graph will only go up.
Until you see this graph plummet, nothing will change. Hell, even if you do, nothing will change, they'll just announce a new Mario and Zelda, people will line up by the millions to buy it again, and their stocks will go back up.
Nothing will change until this hurts their bottom line, and you know full well that won't happen. Not unless you make an EA out of Nintendo, and even then, Battlefront II did fucking nothing to them.
ea7996 No.15455838
>>15455811
>I still laugh whenever I see people calling the switch "portable"
Is it not a portable?
1b0a22 No.15455841
>>15455829
Fully kill support for people who bought the system on day 1? Nah, that'd be insane - not even EA would do something like that… right?
Comments section is really a fun ride. And claims of the original Xbox or even Dreamcast having better online are actually accurate - hell, the Dreamcast had chatrooms. and still has, using stuff like DreamPi nowadays!
>>15455831
Well, you're right - the Nintybabbies will buy whatever. But this will scare a considerable amount of would-be adopters too. I don't expect a catastrophe, but a bit of shaking.
EA's battlefront crap is pretty much forgotten now, but this time they're trying to go against Belgium. This is a show we can not miss.
3beade No.15455881
>>15455838
That's a curious distinction, really. Everyone seems to have a different line to what's portable and what isn't. The Vita sure as fuck didn't fit in my pockets, neither did most 3DS models. I suppose it also depended on pockets, but most of mine are quite small. That's why whenever I brought portables with me, I kept them in a bag, I have one with me at all times unless I'm jogging, and at that point, a Switch is as portable as anything else.
It's the same thing with phones. I could fit six flip phones in the length of a typical Smartphone, and that's one of the 16x9 ones, the ultra long ones, fuck that, you could fit 8, no joke.
>>15455841
I don't really think too many people will care. Most will just see the shekels, consider it a better deal than Playstation or Xbox and go with it anyway. I watched the Direct live with an xboxfag, and I remember him saying "Oh man, that's fucking cheap. I think they actually give you more than Microsoft does too.". Fucker pays for online, too, I know that much.
As for people who wanted a Switch for first parties? Well, same thing. I doubt any will be deterred from buying the Switch itself. At most, just from paying for online.
I remember graphing game launches in correlation to console sales, and, for example, Animal Crossing pushed a lot of new units when something like Smash didn't, probably because AC appeals to a demographic that might not give a shit about the other offerings, whereas if you like Smash, you already got one for Mario, Zelda or whatever. People like that, perhaps, wouldn't go for online and just stick to their own. But at that point, is that any loss? I imagine that the revenue they'll make from online is more than enough to offset potentially lost sales.
Keep an eye on the Nintendo IR sales page when Smash launches. Every person who buys Smash will also pay for Online.
bc5c77 No.15455887
>>15455838
It's "portable" in that you can take it to the bathroom with you, but its giant size and tiny battery life make carrying it around outside unfeasible. There's no way the Switch is fitting in anyone's pocket.
(One recent anime had a character take his Switch to work with him in a bag, but the character was supposed to be a hardcore otaku - and he was actually called out on how unprofessional it was to be playing games at work.)
It's certainly not something you could casually pull out of your pocket and play for a couple of minutes on the train or whatever.
abfdbb No.15455909
>>15453209
Consider the following:
>the systems are already sold
>they've sold insanely well, better than Nintendo could have predicted
>there isn't a hardware shortage of false scarcity gimmick again, like there was with the Wii
>5ma5h has guaranteed that everyone who was on the fence will be buying the system come Christmas time
>$20 a year is still cheaper than Xbone of PS4 online services
>They've probably already made a few billion off subs since the announcement
<Even though Smash and Splatoon 2 are pretty much the only games with online play worth playing
<The dislikes on youtube are only 12k out of Nintendo's tens of millions of customers
<Even though their library is largely made of ports, people will gladly buy them again if it means "portable" play.. even though most people don't take their Switch out with them to play because that's fucking dumb and it's not really portable friendly to begin with
It's not good, but from Nintendo's perspective, there's no reason not to. With all the ports and remakes they're releasing, they get to double dip on all the games that got released on the Wii U, making profits and seeing larger sales for games that required minimal work, if any, to produce for distribution.
5953c0 No.15455950
This thread will be bumplocked in the next couple hours, the mods are no longer hiding their Nintendo obsession.
5953c0 No.15455959
>>15453642
>Oh man how dare you hurt someones feelings or get them mad on 8ch
Oh look its a mod who will go into a week of post history to drag up something bannable and ban you for it for daring to insult glorious nintendo.
4d570b No.15455968
>>15455841
Wish online services would go back to the days of being an ISP with exclusive serverices. But nope, can't have private servers no more.
>>15455909
The thing about Wii U ports is that most people who bought a Switch did not have a Wii U. Wii U ports are less about making Wii U fans double dip (a lot of Wii U owners I talked to refuse to buy a Switch until home brew) so much as enticing a new install base with games they never played. As for third party multiplats they're just going where the money goes. Plus Switch is piss easy to port to.
1476ea No.15455993
>>15455977
>Resetera was right
8c9efe No.15456003
well doesnt it also come with a growing library of emulated games?
imagine what a normafag things
>i used to rent games for 5 dollars a week
>but now for 20 dollars a year i can get dozens of games
>i wont even have to worry about whether or not i got a defective copy
>and holy shit, online multiplayer with these games?
when i first discovered netplay on zsnes i was fucking astounded and got to relive plenty of games with some lifelong friends.
bd6e27 No.15456014
>>15453209
Explain this to me again, since I still don't get it. Why are console peasants paying someone for P2P multiplayer?
2eeac4 No.15456015
>>15455977
>"No Ports"
Nigger, the entire first two years of PS4 "exclusives" were rereleases of PS3 games, the fuck are you talking about
>free games
Stop paying your PS+, watch what happens to those games. You do not own those games, anon. They're there to keep you paying for the "service".
2eeac4 No.15456016
>>15456003
Even normalfags know how to get an emulator these days
4d570b No.15456018
>>15455977
You should be banned from Reset Era from posting on a taiwanese ceramic clay modeling website occupied by Nazis.
>>15456003
You can, like, use emulators to play more games online with friends on PC than what Nintendo offers legally.
2eeac4 No.15456068
>>15456021
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were mentally retarded. Does your wrangler know you're online?
abfdbb No.15456086
>>15455968
>Plus Switch is piss easy to port to.
This can't be overstated. It seems like it's so easy to do that companies would be losing money if they didn't port.
8c9efe No.15456088
>>15456016
if that were true there would be more backlash
>>15456018
of course i understand that but what do they know?
what awful reading skills.
6345df No.15456105
>>15453616
>go to japan's channel
>still net "positive"
Why do the japanese have such shit taste?
5953c0 No.15456118
>>15456105
Because their nation is entirely about consumerism.
People who worship Japan but don't know how fucked Japan is, are the worst.
Like niggers look into their history, culture, and political corruption.
Shit is out of a 1984 fanfic.
>Politicians in the 90s approve a blood shipment that isn't test
>They own stock in said company that ships blood
>Turns out to have aids, and hep c
>Thousands die as this is the 90s and LOL no cure
>They get re-elected
>For years
>Retire to become CEO's of said blood company
>Which still exists despite being responsible for thousands of deaths
The japanese are barely a step above the chinks.
988e1a No.15456120
>>15456021
>>15455977
Why do these very obvious shitposts have serious replies?
>>15456105
Nipponormalfags are still normalfags.
988e1a No.15456123
>>15456120
That was supposed to be spoiled
The bamboozler has become the bamboozled
4d570b No.15456222
>>15456086
The biggest problem Switch has is hardware limitations. Other than that tweak and compress your textures and particle effects and Unreal 4 ports run fine. Most smaller projects don't even need to tweak anything other than make base resolution 720p.
>>15456120
>Why do these very obvious shitposts have serious replies?
Because vidya is serious business.
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eaf1a3 No.15456336
>>15455759
>2 - 3 months
So buying a used one before these versions is still a viable option then. Sadly, the Switch has replaced the Vita as the go to console for mid tier budget japanese game to go to. Usually these would go to an handheld but now they're going to a bizarre tablet that's too big and short lasting to be a handheld but too weak to compete with other consoles.
>>15455881
I don't consider it portable because you have to fit both the joycons and the screen taking up 2 pockets. One of which will have your phone. It's already big enough without the joycons but both combined it makes many people's pockets look like they're trying to fit a tablet in there. Not only that but the battery life is worse than the 3DS (which was around 4.5 hours which is already bad) with 2.5 hours for graphically demanding games like BotW and 6 hours for ports that don't. On a long plane trip, that thing wouldn't last. The DPI is not even that much higher than the Vita's too. So it doesn't take advantage of consoles nor handhelds. It's a hybrid that doesn't fit either role.
45acc1 No.15456345
A lot of kids are into retro games these days.
-T. Works at a retro game store
eaf1a3 No.15456397
>>15456345
What's considered retro to these kids then?
6e6461 No.15456403
>>15456345
Do they legitimately enjoy them, or are they just babys first hipster fagging like my generation was with vinyl? Or it could also be that they also hear their sempais talking about how old games were better, and decided to latch on to them so they can be authoritative dickbags as well.
I have a nephew who's really into classic MegaMan now, but whenever I see him play - he's shit at it, and doesn't seem to be enjoying himself. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but it looks like he was told MegaMan was good by people he trusts and so is beating his head against the wall until he thinks like that too. Not that the series isn't good, but it just seems like it's not for him - not at this time. There's plenty of series I couldn't get into initially despite people telling me they were great - that just took the right game at the right time to click and get me to open up. Missed a bunch of isometric PC RPGs from back in the mid-90's and early 2000's when I didn't have decent computer and by the time I finally got around to playing them, they just didn't interest me. But recently I've been on a bender, chewing through that part of my backlog.
You just gotta let these things happen organically.
9f2b82 No.15456425
>>15455780
I'm happy to see the comments there are actually being smart and rightfully tearing Nintendo apart. Sadly I can't say the same for the Nintendo Direct video which has thousands of more commenters who are defending Nintendo by any means necessary where they're now resorting to dismissing your comments based solely on spelling.
4f01ee No.15456849
It's absolute shit. It'd be pretty funny that such a terrible "service" even exists if it weren't going to sell so well. I have full confidence the normalcattle will happily pay for this fucking abortion though.
9f2b82 No.15456966
>>15456849
>It'd be pretty funny that such a terrible "service" even exists if it weren't going to sell so well. I have full confidence the normalcattle will happily pay for this fucking abortion though.
This. I'd honestly be smugly laughing if it weren't so obvious normalfags and fantards will buy into this scam.
71f8c3 No.15457033
>>15455968
>The thing about Wii U ports is that most people who bought a Switch did not have a Wii U. Wii U ports are less about making Wii U fans double dip so much as enticing a new install base with games they never played
Remember Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold over 10 million (in over a year) compared to Wii U's MK8 with 8 million. Even if it was possible that all 8 million who brought MK8 went to buy deluxe that is still an extra 2 million (and growing) who didn't own the original.
And the same can be applied to DK:TF. It's going to be interesting to see if a Switch port fails to sell more than the original Wii U version.
646b24 No.15463040
>>15456966
I'd fuck big miss steak
eb6114 No.15463153
>>15453323
Sunken cost fallacy will be the biggest contributor for people continuing on supporting the absolute jewish move that nintendo pulled.
69f10d No.15463183
>>15463040
She needs better curves. She's all head and no ass.
c9e05b No.15472808
>>15455887
I consider something I can put in my backpack and pull out to use as something portable.
7f08de No.15480559
What is the big deal here? Sony and Microsoft have been charging for online for YEARS and Nintendo Online is a third of the price.
4d570b No.15480659
>>15480559
1) The service is shit. No deticated servers for Mario Kart 8 or Splatoon 2. P2P is still broken. And 8 man Smash online NEEDs deticated servers.
2) You still need the voice chat app on your phone to even talk with strangers instead of using a USB wireless headset to talk in Switch directly (OS bullshit). And most games aren't compatible with the app like fucking MINECRAFT.
3) Cloud back-up not compatible with all games. Especially the games that need it like Pokémon and Splatoon 2. Cloud back-up data is deleted immediately after expired subscription.
4) No access to NES games outside of subscription service. A buy-out option alongside subscription would be nice. Even offline with subscription you get Denuvo'd by needing to check in every week online or lose access to NES games.
LESS GAMES.
LESS FEATURES.
NO FUN.
Take your shekels and leave shill.
1d45d2 No.15480667
2a3b89 No.15480677
>>15480659
Why the Hell would you need to chat with a little boy over Autismblox?
445a1b No.15480695
>>15480677
Why the hell would you need to pay for online?
4fe6d4 No.15480709
>>15480559
Don't support this. Tell them to keep it free. They will take everything they can and never let go. We need to resist this.
7f08de No.15480715
>>15480659
1) Point taken on the lack of deticaded servers. Switch P2P is broken though?
2) Voice-chatting with strangers can get too toxic
3) Not allowing people to copy Pokémon saves is actually nessicary. Not making cartilages that can store saves like the 3DS is where Nintendo actually fucked up.
4) A patato can run NES games and I have access to the Wii-U VC This is a non-issue.
inb4 autism accuations.
6ca7ee No.15480738
>>15455829
>Lack of Wii Remote support is understandable. There is no port to power a sensor bar.
they don't need to support the pointer function. that's the only reason youd need a sensor bar (or literally just two fucking candles, since that also works). they could have easily supported the wireless connection but then they wouldn't sell as many joycons
650c55 No.15480765
>>15480715
>toxic
>cartilage
Not just autism, but underage.
>>>/out/
bf7413 No.15481131
>15480715
This bait is so poor that I won't even give you a (You) for it.
7f08de No.15481770
>>15480765
Don't give me that shit. I'm probably older than you are.
bb9697 No.15481795
>>15480715
>Voice-chatting with strangers can get too toxic
Shitposting with strangers was the best part of Xbox Live.
a50963 No.15481808
>>15453209
>Are they trying to repeat another WiiU situation?
Funny when the Wii U has better online features, in-game chat and allows save data backups in external memory for free. Switch is giving a service inferior to its predecessors.
81f2fb No.15481814
>>15480715
>deticaded
>nessicary
>cartilages
>patato
7f08de No.15481821
>>15481808
Probably one of those basturds who didn't buy a Wii-U so he wouldn't know. Nintendo literally offered more features for free with Wii-U than $20/yr with the Switch.
9b34bf No.15481835
>>15453224
There are still local saves (internal storage), but they cannot be backed up to the microSD card. Pay for our online service so you can back your game saves to the cloud :^)
6cd607 No.15481839
>>15480715
>2) Voice-chatting with strangers can get too toxic
Fuck off reddit.
a2840f No.15481858
>>15481770
>I'm probably older than you are.
You do realize this is the hallmark of an underage poster, correct?
7c261d No.15481896
>>15481808
Even the DS has in-game chat. Switch Online has anti-features.
59b0a8 No.15481946
>another hardware company jumps into the paid online wagon
Not a surprise, but sure it's a bad move. Nintendo just lost the only competitive advantage it has over Sony and Microsoft in terms of online play.
>>15455714
>they decided to kill custom OS support. It was mere months later that the PS3 had custom firmware and piracy.
But wasn't it the Jailbreaking attempts that made Sony decided to discontinue support for Linux for PS3, after finding out that the latter enables the former?
Did you just mistake the cause for the effect?
>>15456118
This.
We have too many anons worshiping the Japanese simply because anime comes from their country. They should read "Dogs and Demons" by Alex Kerr, let them see for themselves the amount of insanity the Japanese has implanted inside themselves to build a strong nation-state.
b101ef No.15484258
>>15480559
>Sony and Microsoft have been charging for online for YEARS
And I criticized and made fun of them and their fanboys then. Why wouldn't I do the same for Nintendo?
3debb6 No.15484313
it's just as shit as every other online service except it costs 1/4th as much
273033 No.15484923
>>15455714
>including Linux support right out of the box
it was incredibly gimped, with very limited access to the GPU and only 256 MB of RAM being usable by the OS.
>>15481946
They offered OtherOS support because they wanted to avoid taxes in Yurop by shipping their console as a computer. Given they were selling it at a loss, the attempts at hacking the hypervisor, and the EU closing the the tax loophole, they quickly took OtherOS out.
70f47b No.15493425
>>15453216
>The price tag for only getting online and nothing else of value is such an insanely jewish tactic that i'll be surprised if there isn't backlash from big name critics.
Literally every console has this though.
6916bb No.15493452
>>15493425
I didn't say that was a good thing
8b5be0 No.15493684
>>15453302
How feasible would it be for a console manufacturer other than Microsoft to create an ISP today? Especially given new regulations when it comes to ISPs and creating one for every region with their standards and regulations.
>>15480659
>You still need the voice chat app on your phone to even talk with strangers instead of using a USB wireless headset to talk in Switch directly
I'm pretty sure the whole smartphone voice chat is just Nintendo's moralfaggotry since it's intended for users 13 and over and many kids under 13 don't own cellphones let alone smartphones.
>>15481896
Wasn't that limited to a few select games though? I remember Nintendo refusing to have in game chat due to "online safety" bullshit.
188737 No.15494131
>>15453903
I don't use any paid subscription so… were any of those free games good? Considering the track record of the 7th gen, I doubt it.
83ebc6 No.15495268
>>15494131
Yes. They had yakuza 5 free with ps+ once.
4d570b No.15495284
>>15493684
>kids under 13 not owning smartphones.
If only you knew how bad things really were.
d7b092 No.15505675
>>15495284
How bad? I want to know.
1e3ca0 No.15505689
>No 64/GC/GB/GBC/GBA/DS/ect. games
>Just NES games
>Not even a massively libarary of them, just a small handful
Why the fuck are they charging for this dogshit
831685 No.15516102
>>15505689
Nintendo fags are good goyim
3debb6 No.15516117
it has pretty much all of the value of its competitors but it costs a 1/4 as much, or less with the family plan
db9995 No.15516147
the Wii swi- I mean the Switch is marginally better than the Wii u, prove me wrong. I've never been more dissapointed in a game than with Odyssey, the concept art Nintendo just released of New Donk looks 10x better than what we got. Fuck you Nintendo.
4d570b No.15516387
>>15505675
Kids under the age of 13 need devices that access the internet for public schooling in my town. So they either get laptops or smart phons. Most get smart phones.
Kids under the age of 13 here use smart phones brah.
a908d3 No.15516393
>>15494131
Some of the games were good, but they weren't "free". They were effectively rentals; as soon as you stopped paying for the online, they stopped working, even if they weren't online games.
>>15516147
The Wii U is superior to the Switch in every way except for "portability". Even in number of decent games available the Wii U is ahead, although admittedly the Switch is getting more and more games lately - most of which are ports of Wii U titles!
Even the Switch's original "killer app", BOTW, was very obviously designed as a Wii U game - it ran better on the Wii U, and just about everything in the game was clearly designed around the concept of the tablet controller - and then dummied out since it wouldn't be supported in the Switch version. (Link onscreen picks up his tablet and starts using it instead of you, the player, using the one in your own hands).