/v/ - Video Games

Windows 7 until 2023!

>>15437975

>monthly fee to get security updates

If those "updates" are important we'll get them for free somehow.

Yep. It begins! Operating Systems as a Service. This will force most people that use Win7 to migrate to Win10. And then wait until Win10 charges for monthly updates.

But why make Win7 a "service" now? Because Microsoft can alter the ToS of Win7 as a service instead of a product to ban whoever they want from using Windows ever again.

>>15437985

>pirating OS updates

That's just funny to me, but it should be trivial

>>15437987

Windows 7 forever more like

>>15438002

Microsoft markets pretty much exclusively to retards these days, I bet you a thousand fucking dollars they end up making millions from this racket. That said almost every business I've worked at since win7 launched has used it, and I imagine that for government organizations it would be easier and cheaper to simply pay Microsoft instead of upgrading or writing their own OS

>>15438003

Microsoft will get raped in the courts if they tried pulling that shit, they still have near-full business penetration with their older OSes and those kinds of businesses don't take this shit lightly

>>15438003

>ban whoever they want from using Windows ever again.

Year of the Linux desktop finally? :^)

>>15438009

*market penetration for businesses

Why does security updating your system even matter? You'll still get zero day hardware and software exploits, OS means shit. Just fucking install an open source browser and toss an adblock onto it and you've stopped over 99% of malware

Though you can still get datamined, which is arguably worse

>>15437975

Screw it I am gonna do a full Linux installation and figure out a method to do an autobuild / installation of Win7 Into a VM loaded with all the drivers I require ahead of time.

>>15438023

The point he was making was that microsoft doesn't care.

Their audiance is idiots who don't know that and thus they market to them.

>>15437975

Jewish ass shit.

>>15438031

Fair enough.

>>15438036

>is there anything worng with pirating windows 7 once and never worry about it again?

No, that's what I did.

>>15438036

Not really, just throw up an adblocker, run umatrix and have basic opsec, now you're pretty much invensible to bullshit.

>>15437975

Eh. Windows 7 doesn't support my current hardware and I don't want to jump to Windows 10. Maybe pirates will make Windows 7 repacks with updated drivers, just like they did with Windows XP.

>>15437985

>Does this mean newer hardware will now work with it?

highly doubt it

>>15438016

Did you get this reaction image from reddit? Nep and weed is a retarded combination

If Microsoft keeps going like they've been recently the day Windows 7 starts giving me problems I'm just going to switch to Linux or something else. Win 8 and 10 sound unappealing as fuck.

>>15438069

>I'm just going to switch to Linux

I'll do it when devs drop support for 7

I'm never touching 8 or 10s botnet and locked down mobileshit

>>15438036

I'm running windows 7 plus malwarebytes and i haven't gotten infected yet,and it's been 3 years.

>>15438053

getting free shekels from good goys using w7 and forcing EVERYONE that buys new hardware to use win10

>>15438082

>There's already shit that is Win10 only and it's just going to get worse. Then there's the lack of Direct X 12 support.

Can you name any good games that actually require that shit?

>>15438081

Been running pirated windows 7 for years and never dealt with viruses.

I use Windows 8, am I part of the botnet?

>>15438117

https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying/releases

>>15438117

yes

>>15438043

Umatrix? Opsec? what are you,ex military?

>>15438107

Good shit my man,but i'd still get malwarebytes,it can get rid of junkware you might not know you have,along with ccleaner

>>15438125

I manually delete old programs and shit I don't use on a regular basis. No need to have a program do it for me.

>>15438117

No_

Windows 7 was the last good OS. The closest we ever got to perfection.

>>15438023

>every major flaw has been ironed out by now

This is windows we are talking about, that couldn't be further from the truth. On the other hand updates are at least as likely to make things worse and there comes a point that it's best just to accept the inevitable that shit will have problems.

I was expecting this. Microsoft knows they will lose large numbers of users when they stop supporting win7. So instead of letting that happen, they re-release it with a monthly fee and all the backdoors and spyware from win10. Good goys eat it up.

>>15438264

It's not that hard to recognize shadshit. If you see an excessive amounts of headache inducing chromatic aberration, there's a 90% chance that it's a shadman pic.

>>15438264

>having a good eye for detail is bad news

>>15438249

i'm not even surprised really

at least wine has become amazingly good the past couple years

>>15438002

Same and I've never had an issue

>>15438241

>Closest we'll get to perfection

That was XP

>>15438307

>Windows is dead

As long as they keep bundling their shit OS with prebuilts and laptops it will never die.

We might see a surge of Linux gayman users however due to Valves new push and the issues that you already posted.

>>15438307

>DX12 is a vaporware meme like DX10 was.

Do most games even use DX10? Because I swear lots of games still run on DX9.

>>15437975

Okay, that's good and a bit too jewish, but hey we can pirate updates, and this could coincide with Windows 12 with the memeshit of DirectX12 to go with it, because there hasn't been news of it for a year now.

Do subscriptions really rake in that much dough? By this rate they will make idiots pay to access their forced app store just to pay for notepad.

>>15438327

XP had a lot of security problems, but it was still great too.

>>15438036

Why pirate when you can just use a standard windows installation and just not pay for a serial key.

>>15438374

Consider the most normalfag Antivirus program like Avast can get enough suckers to pay and subcribed for their shit to be profitable. https://archive.is/5K4BF

>>15438124

>>15438181

>>15438117

Maybe

I don't know

Can you repeat the question?

>>15438423

Avast isn't the most normalfag though, that's Norton, Mcafee, and AVG

>>15438443

They still have "Premium" subscriptions, point is, it's still pretty profitable to have "Premium Services" like that, and businesses from where I am at has to have official software to be used, piracy is a big no.

Install Gentoo.

>>15437975

windows 10 is run by kikes

>>15438062

You need hard liquor to enjoy Nep Nep.

>>15438125

ccleaner IS malware

>>15438474

Care to elaborate?

>>15438450

It at least makes sense for a business. I never heard of a legitimate company freely admit that it pirates its software, and it would certainly be sued into the ground if it did. Though of course in that case, a company could possibly choose better alternatives.

i am a company and i pirate all my software ama

>>15438474

Man what isn't these days with how paranoid people are

>>15438482

>>15438507

Read this

https://archive.is/5a2oc a lot of of programs and updates that get bundled with this shit managed to spread malware everywhere.

>>15438486

If only Shillicon Valley wasn't full of dipshit suits and hipisters, and they can actually deliver software that ain't goddamn shit.

>>15438382

xp's kernel really held it back because of limited ram and just general memory allocation. people have come up with fixes over the years, but they can't be expected to improve everything and lose out on compatibilty.

>>15438049

the usb3 support for windows 7 was patched by multiple hardware devs, which is what i'm guessing your running into. it's literally unzip an iso, add in drivers, zip to iso

>>15438512

Thanks for clarifying but I don't think this makes the program itself malware

>>15438512

Huh,well hopefully i didn't download my ccleaner during that time

>>15438537

ccleaner isn't malware but it's something that should be unnecessary.

the registry as a system is a mess (it shouldn't exist) but navigating it isn't too awful. if you don't use windows as a main install it's very rarely something you need to care about.

>>15438512

This is why I laugh piratefags and muh freedumb softwaer commies in the face. I can't cure their autism but I sure can laugh my ass off when their autism bites them in the ass. Enjoy your "free" cuckware, cucks.

>>15438525

Can you read or are you being a snarky retard?

>>15438537

It can be called Malware if it managed to spread to several updates and rollbacks, undetected for 6 months.

>>15438560

These were mostly on official updates for subscriptions you fucking idiot.

>>15437975

Linux will have direct X 12 support.

All of the software is free and open meaning quite literally infinite support. It's fine.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-VKD3D-1.0-D3D12-Vulkan

>>15438082

new games are bad tho and everything i care about can be emulated

>>15438591

>loonix

ayy lmao, enjoy your no games machine my man

>>15438591

that's good news, i know wine already supports some dx12 games quite well. it seems like the only reason for anons to use windows will be because of drm.

>>15438591

If only linux had all the games i wanted

>>15438613

Wine's development is heating up, thanks to Valve's money.

>>15438628

Wine isn't native support though is it?

>>15438093

the phantom dust port

>>15438634

As long as a game runs at 1080p/60 with everything maxed out/turned on, I personally don't give a shit if a game needs Wine to run on my Linux rig or not.

>>15438659

With ads/microtransactions, and Xbox emulation right around the corner?

I like to kill niggers and kikes.

>>15438672

>xbox emulation around the corner

>almost 20 years after the fact and it can only now run a few games decently

yeah no its not going to happen for at least another 6-8 years before the emulators actually are worth using, getting Jet Set Radio to run at 30 FPS is a minor accomplishment, getting shit like patched and modded games and niche shit all running with no bugs and issues created from the emulation is what matters

>>15438671

That's going to bite you in the ass in the future; Wine and Linux by extension will always be playing catch up as a result of this and there will still be many, many problems

>>15438307

DX12 is actually pretty good, but the issue is that unless you redo everything for DX12, it's just going to use DX11 in disguise, which reduces performance. Another issue is that Vulkan does the same thing, but you don't have to suck Microdick to use it.

When can we game on linux without WINE emulation

>>15438709

Right now, if you're not too picky.

>>15438119

https://www.howtogeek.com/273513/why-you-shouldnt-use-anti-spying-tools-for-windows-10/

I got windows 10 pro, should I use that?

>>15438698

>That's going to bite you in the ass in the future; Wine and Linux by extension will always be playing catch up as a result of this and there will still be many, many problems

WINE just werks like 90% of the time unless you're trying to play new AAA games. Of the remainder, most of the problems are fixed by either checking the appdb or by updating WINE to the latest release.

>>15438718

Not really going to solve anything considering that Windows 10 itself is spyware.

>>15438639

I'm curious about this. I think it is inevitable to run Linux once Microsoft pushes Win10 to everyone and threatening them with killswitches if they don't use Win10.

What are the cons of running Win7 on a VM in a Linux distro?

How much performance cost one should expect when running Win7 in a VM compared to of installing it regularly alongside Linux?

>>15437985

Newer hardware does work with it.

>>15437985

>they’ll start charging a monthly subscription fee to get security updates.

Seems like security updates only.

>>15438013

>they’ll start charging a monthly subscription fee to get security updates.

When they start charging monthly fees for all basic versions of Windows, I'm sure it will cause a good deal of people to switch to Linux, and hopefully that will start the chain-reaction that converts everyone to Linux. Maybe once everybody is on Linux, people will start porting old games and shit.

>>15438726

This anon gets it, people develop these gay tools to 1.) Block updates 2.) Disable defender 3.) Attempt to block addresses in the hosts 4.) and disable running services. The problem, however, is that windows 10 is quite literally spyware and not to mention the fact that no one knows half of the code thats inside the OS. Not to mention that the majority of these .bats and "programs" are made by people who probably havent even opened a windows internal book. Your best bet is to grab 7, install it on an air gapped computer and never connect it to the internet. Make sure encryption on your other drives are used as well if hot swapping isnt used. But to think you can protect against Spyware 10 is max retardation.

>>15438720

>KIKE got upset that he got called out for being a KIKE so now he's SAGING THE THREAD

fucking kill yourself, you KIKE

dont forget that google facebook and MS are hearing and watching you all day through your mic and camera

>>15438736

>What are the cons of running Win7 on a VM in a Linux distro?

The obvious downside is overhead from the virtualization process. Also, there's normally no access to the gpu, but with PCI passthrough you can give the virtual machine access and supposedly play games just fine. I remember hearing some cards or setups have issues with this for some reason. Otherwise you still retain pretty much everything you can do on Windows, like browsing the internet. You can even copy/paste files from linux into the virtual machine and shit.

>How much performance cost one should expect when running Win7 in a VM compared to of installing it regularly alongside Linux?

If by "regularly alongside Linux", you mean a dualboot, it has AFAIK 0% performance cost, however I have one and really wouldn't recommend it. If you keep all your files on windows, you don't get much of the benefits of Linux, and if you keep all your files on Linux you need to reboot your PC every fucking time you need a file (since Linux should be encrypted, esp. with windows installed on the same machine).

Would personally try eating the performance cost of having Windows in a VM to see if it's acceptable before trying anything else. Unfortunately, I don't know what the cost is. Could even vary a lot depending on the card or game.

>>15438742

What!? Without any extra tinkering, get outta here!

>>15438736

if you can do hardware passthroughs, expect no performance loss. This means your video card, sound card, and keyboard will be able to act independently of the processor, and communicate directly to the win 7 drivers.

If not, your processor will be doing double duty, telling the components and itself what to process, which is very laggy.

>>15438780

>>15438790

Checking those ID dubs.

Nice info, anons, thanks.

Yes, I meant dualboot.

Looking up PCI and Hardware Passthrough now.

If I can have more off-topic questions:

1. What prevents files from being accessed by all OSs, assuming each OSs is installed in different HDDs? Does it has to do with partitioning or file system types (e.g. NTFS or EXT4-something?)

2. Why should one encrypt Linux when it is dualbooted with Windows?

3. Is there a particular GPU brand, type or model that is ideal for PCI Passthrough?

I considered building a PC around Ryzen 5 1600 and GTX 1060 3GB but I'm willing to change both for a more Gaming Linux friendly setup.

>>15438780

>>15438835

>1. What prevents files from being accessed by all OSs, assuming each OSs is installed in different HDDs? Does it has to do with

partitioning or file system types (e.g. NTFS or EXT4-something?)

absolutely nothing, just have another partition set up for files you want to share between OS's your multi-booting, and make sure they can all read the filesystem, IE FAT/NTFS. Linux can read/write NTFS you just need a special package, it can only read NTFS with the default kernel driver.

>2. Why should one encrypt Linux when it is dualbooted with Windows?

because windows is botnet and you don't want windows reading your sekrit files on linux.

you can use veracrypt to encrypt windows and the partition with files you want to share between OS's, veracrypt works on both windows and linux.

>>15438835

3. Is there a particular GPU brand, type or model that is ideal for PCI Passthrough?

remember your going to need 2 GPU's if you do this. PCI passthrough means you completely isolate that GPU from the host operating system, and pump it to the VM, the host can't use it at all. You need a second GPU for the host. Also the GPU your using for PCI can only be attached to 1 VM at a time.

>>15438525

>>15438537

>>15438541

>>15438560

You might have misunderstood the anon you posted too.

CCleaner is not in itself malware but it is completely unnecessary:

>the registery doesn't have to be cleaned (zero speed, increase few bytes gained and possible issues)

>all other tasks can be done manually (clearing the bin, your browser history (which shouldn't be created in the first place), removing old update files other garbage (there is a windows tool for it: drive cleaner or however it's called in english))

Furthermore the 32-bit version of the installer actually delivered spyware at a point.

>hurr durr nobody uses 32 bit

>hurr durr it's now fixed

So what. This shows their incompetence and how that is a risk to your system.

It's a propitiatory program. You shouldn't use it after such a dilemma.

>>15438901

spyware

a virus

>>15438835

>Does it has to do with partitioning or file system types (e.g. NTFS or EXT4-something?)

Yeah, it's because Windows doesn't normally support ext, but you can install a driver that allows it to do that. I don't recommend it, since the main benefit of Linux is privacy, and letting windows view those files kind of defeats that.

>Why should one encrypt Linux when it is dualbooted with Windows?

Encryption is just another layer of security in case windows can somehow scan parts of your Linux drive. It's a bit paranoid, but it's a good idea to encrypt Linux even outside of dualboots anyways. The more walls between your data and someone trying to access it, the better.

>Is there a particular GPU brand, type or model that is ideal for PCI Passthrough

According to the method used in vid related:

>Two different GPUs, so people tend to get a CPU with an integrated GPU for their host machine

>The two different GPUs can't be the same model

>CPU needs to support Intel VT-d & VT-x or AMD's virtualization acceleration tech. equivalent

>CPU & motherboard needs to support IOMMU remapping

>GPU needs to support UEFI (apparently can still do passthrough without this, but it's more complicated)

>Lots of RAM (At least 8GB for the VM and Host, so 16GB total)

>Two monitors if you want to make your life easier (one plugged into the motherboard, the other into the GPU)

>The video mentions and extra mouse & keyboard so you can pass those, but could probably use one set with something like Synergy or "Mouse without Borders"

So, it's pretty complicated. Good to try out on a spare computer if you have one. Definitely make a backup.

>>15438901

zero speed, increase few bytes gained

zero speed increase, few bytes gained

damn it. Forgive me, it's not my native language.

>>15438901

A computer isn't necessary either,but it gives me some peace of mind when i use it and see files deleted that are deemed trash so,i use it.

>>15438007

guy gets it

>>15438929

Just use "Disk Cleanup".

The additional bytes you can gain with CCleaner are less than the size of the software.

>>15438022

I also look forward to the inbound dolphin porn

>>15438935

eh that's not true,i've ran ccleaner before and gotten a couple hundred MBS of free space

>>15438898

>>15438906

Thank you so much, anons. That was very informative. I think it's my homework to figure out the rest by my own.

>>15438983

You could have had the same effect with "Disk Cleanup" which is already on your PC.

>>15438983

"additional bytes" referred to things you can't clean manually

>>15438013

Yes we all know Microsoft are retards. Well most of us there are still idiots that bought Xbox consoles.

>>15439016

Disk cleanup doesn't touch application cache files that can bloat to many Gigabytes.

>>15439036

>application cache files

What "application cache files"?

Can anyone please just fucking tell me where to pirate Windows 7?

>>15438267

>shadshit

It's catching on. Perfect.

>>15437975

>implying I'd install Microshit's telemetry updates even for free

>>15438023

Vulnerabilities can still be discovered, software is never 100% robust.

>>15438267

I am sure it only has chromatic aberration because it's porn of a game that has chromatic aberration.

>Microsoft is spending all their effort trying to destroy and ruin every part of Windows

>Linux is still worse to use

>>15439120

Microsoft, Apple, and Jewgle, have en entirely separate department from their main development offices dedicates solely to user experience and these guys take up a significant fraction of the R&D budget

GNU/Linux' problem is Freetards are mainly programming guys and they don't understand user experience and programming are mutually exclusive positions. Take Sonic 2006 as a good example of when a AAA game studio cuts quality assurance from their budgets for example. Its a real position that is not appreciated enough

>>15438436

You're not the boss of me now!

>>15439126

It's sad because it wouldn't be that difficult to look at what makes other things good and apply those ideas to your own software. But it's as if there's this weird pride that doing things differently from how big companies do thing makes you better somehow, and people who use the program as opposed to make it are too dumb to contribute to the program's design.

It seems Linux devs are only recently starting to realize (through appimages and such) that being able to download software as a concrete file rather than some mysterious terminal command that does things you can't see might be a good idea.

>>15439120

>Linux is still worse to use

Definitely not worse to use. I'm only still on windows because all the games are here.

>>15438898

I keep meaning to do a set up like this, would that work out just using integrated graphics for the host OS or would that gimp performance?

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>>15437985

>>using newer hardware

Enjoy being apart of the Chinese botnet.

>>15438906

>Two different GPUs, so people tend to get a CPU with an integrated GPU for their host machine

Ah, well if that doesn't gimp performance I'll see how it goes. I guess the main thing to consider is the shared RAM crap with integrated.

>>15438780

>The obvious downside is overhead from the virtualization process.

That's like 1% on a modern CPU.

>>15439332

yes

I don't see this as an issue. You will either be able to do a registry hack (like with XP) to continue receiving security updates until 2023, or you can simply pirate the ISO. With Steam's new Steam Play (and general push for games on Linux), 2023 will have been plenty of time for things to mature. Even if you switch over on 2020, a year's worth of work on Proton (Steam's implementation of WINE + DXVK) will yield great results I'm sure.

tl;dr who cares. you can use 7 until 2023 and before or on that date linux is capable of playing most games, including day one ((((AAA))) games

>>15438901

just shill bleachbit then xd, it may of helped (((clinton))) but it had a fair share of memes given

>I'll just switch to Linux!

No, you won't. If you were open to the idea of switching to Linux, you would be using Linux right now.

>>15437975

>A monthly sub for updates

We have (((consoles))) to thank for normalizing this shit behaviour.

>>15439416

before that was a thing some pc games had a subscription fee

>>15439187

If it's so easy why don't you do it? Linux development is 99% for server distros, nobody cares about GUI.

>>15439431

It's completely different to change your own program than to change someone else's, and there's only so much you can make alone.

>>15437975

Oh no, if only there was an operating system that respected its users' freedom and allowed the community to support it if the big company does not. You could call it Free Software or something like that. Of course no such thing exists, goy. So hand over those shekels.

But seriously, Windows 7 war released almost a decade ago, it is time to move on. The real crime is that Windows users are at the mercy of Microsoft. If Windows 7 was Free Software the community could just take over support.

>>15437985

>1.) How do we pirate that?

Do you really want to pirate an OS? You'll catch more viruses than if you sucked off every faggot in a gay bar.

>>15439413

time to go Mac™, then ::^^))

>>15437975

>charging a monthly subscription fee to get security updates

Haha no.

>>15438686

Then get out there and indulge your fine hobby don't sit here talking to us cunts.

>>15438774

Rampant paranoia aside that's pretty simply solved by not (being a camwhore) having a camera and only having an eternal mic.

>>15439439

>it is time to move on.

Why? Has there been some amazing new critical advance in programing over the last decade that only windows 10 has the functionality to use?

>>15439211

Get your priorities straight.

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>>15439413

I only have computers that has yet able to accept Linux installation, sadly. Linux seem to be refused by the BIOS or something. Might try again sometime after changing it and mounting another drive.

>>15439439

Win98 turned into abandonware just a few years ago and even Microsoft freely distributed the installation files themselves, if I remember correctly. That probably means we will still need to wait at least another decade so that people can reuse Win7 just like FLOSS.

>>15439528

decade will be over before we know it.

>>15439488

counter-sage

>>15439187

>mysterious terminal command that does things you can't see

Maybe no one cares about pandering to retards and that's why it's one of the better operating systems in the same way that games that don't pander to casuals are better games. Here's a surprise for you: when using exclusively point and click interactions the things you "can't see" are many times more numerous.

>>15439527

This is the best post in this thread.

>>15439187

Not just using the built in software depository browser most "linux for babies" repos have

Compared to a mysterious green bar that an executable installer would have

>Can't conveniently automatically update through a central service, and instead has to have it's own auto-updater, which is sometimes a separate process that constantly adds itself to the list of startup programs

Literally what the fuck are you talking about.

>>15439666

>built in software depository

Have fun using a year old version of Krita.

>>15438746

>When they start charging monthly fees for all basic versions of Windows, I'm sure it will cause a good deal of people to switch to Linux

sweet child…

even if price went x10 still nobody would switch ANYTHING

stop underestimating consumer laziness

>>15439585

There is no 'counter sage' you dink, sage just doesn't bump the thread it's already been bumped immediately afterwards >>15439490 by (me) anyway so your post is doubly pointless.

>>15439676

you can always add new repos with more up to date programs, but the terminal is still faster and easier

>>15439666

What the fuck happened to my post, 90% of it got deleted.

>>15439694

How do you download some obscure indie dev's game prototype? Not by typing it in the terminal, because you won't have any idea what to type.

>>15439621

> interactions the things you "can't see" are many times more numerous.

He probably was referring to how terminal command windows seem to run by itself and displaying hundreds of lines of codes scrolling so fast that no one can't read anything. I remember seeing one occasion of it as a child, it felt scary, as if I was looking at a newly discovered species of a farm pest or something similar.

At least with dialogue windows and "point and click" interfaces, the lines in them explain what is happening in a very simple way

>Maybe no one cares about pandering to retards and that's why it's one of the better operating systems

We can have just a few distros pander to retards, something like Ubuntu or Steam Linux, make them Paid software, even, but leave the openness of the code to a certain degree. Leave the kernel development and all other distros outside of the retards' market, so that it won't impact things too much negatively. At least once we have billions of retards on our side companies will eventually have to pander to Linux or else they'll lose a significant portion of the market.

>>15439555

Disregard that post, I remembered something else, Microsoft gave away a free activation key or something similar for Win98 that is usable for everyone, not the whole OS.

>>15439566

It'll be worth the wait. Just pray that once it happens, companies would still make compatible drivers for Win7.

>>15439679

That really depends on the target consumer, too. Given that they have limited money they'll find someway to save it. Many citizens in 3rd world countries can only afford to buy really cheap old laptops around US$200 and can't afford to buy Windows on top of it, so they have big markets on pirated software.

But then they're not adept at installing OSes so they end up paying for tech customer support to install Windows, around $3 once, so your statement holds a part of the truth.

t. a regular cheapskate tourist

>>15439679

>nobody would switch ANYTHING

Bullshit, there's still tons of people that haven't switched to Windows 10 over security concerns, in fact it's market share is actually going DOWN as people are returning to 7. Where are they going to go when Windows 7 will start to cost them monthly? If they aren't going to switch, they're at least going to start pirating.

>>15438030

linux is fucking terrible, your best option is to just wait it out until reactos can finally be usable.

>>15438082

>m-muh direct X 12

Fun fact: vulkan exists and is a much lower and better api than dx12.

Linuxfags also provided this helpful thing called dxvk which allows even windows users to play directx12 games using vulkan.

>>15439810

Is this a pro-Windows ad?

>>15439802

>which allows even windows users to play directx12 games using vulkan

Oh shit. That's pretty cool actually.

Not so useful for windows users since there's no good dx12 exclusive games, but still pretty cool nonetheless.

>>15439810

>mac vs pc

Macs are PCs.

I always fucking hated this form of marketing.

>>15439830

Honestly can't tell.

>>15439842

Wow stop shilling deus ex

>>15439834

Yeah, but in practice Windows+x86 has hijacked the previously generic term PC and there's no going back now.

>>15439848

REINSTALL

this is a serious problem. windows 10 is abysmal. windows 7 is mediocre but it works with games, so what am i supposed to do as time goes on? get 2 partitions, one for gaming/windows7 and one for linux/general computer usage?

while microsoft and valve work together to phase out win7 so no new games are playable on it? i guess the only way i'll play new games is if they make a linux version, or i guess i'll just play consoles.

>>15439886

Rather than partitions, it's much easier to install them in separate drives, and it keeps one from messing up the other. I recall there was some Win10 update that """accidentally""" broke Grub for many people.

>>15437975

>monthly fee for updates

Do you even need those? I usually ignore them.

>>15438267

>90% chance

and the other 10%?

>>15438082

The replies to this post don't acknowledge the fact that newer hardware is made specifically to support only Windows 10.

>>15439943

yea, windows 10 wipes the entire drive and doesnt allow you to have a partition.

windows 7 doesnt do that. though having 2 drives is also doable. tbh i'd probably just have a seperate computer. one with windows 7, emulators, roms, games, etc. and then a general usage computer with some kind of linux distro.

>>15439993

Other 10% it's just a shit drawing, but not Shadman's.

>>15439886

PCI passthrough, demote Windows 7 to just being a software layer >>15438906

>>15437975

B-BUT THEY SAID MICROSOFT HAS CHANGED

THEY SAID MICROSOFT ARE GOOD GUYS NOW

>>15438721

Or you homos could just buy an Xbox for $20 and pirate all the games you want on it.

>>15438007

The software used at my job stopped supporting win7 last year. You had to update to keep using it.

>>15438513

what this anon said. Hell, the usb3 drivers came with my new motherboard

>>15439703

>git

>obscure

nigga what. It's pretty much a standard tool

>>15438062

DUDE-

>>15438117

The only positive thing that can be said for it is that it is probably less shit than 10, but it is worse than 7.

>charging money for their spyware bs

bitch, like install sp-1 and disable updates completely. stay behind 7 routers and don't click on every shit you see, you'll be fine.

>>15439683

counter-sage

>A subscription fee for security updates.

Wow, I'm so happy they used lube before fucking me up the ass this time. Also >>15438003

>>15439439

Yeah, time to move on. Intuitive interfaces and compatibility with worthwhile games are out.

>>15438002

I would argue that this isnt aimed at the casual home user, this is aimed at corporations and businesses that need to rely on a stable platform. From what i've heard, windows 10 twice a year upgrade schedule has been an absolute nightmare for any IT department, and any loss of service costs $$$$

>>15439834

It is fucking scummy, but it has some merit, as windows does have lineage dating back to the IBM PC.

>>15442686

>somebody saved and reposted my cap

you bring joy to me

>>15439439

The entire win10 push by Microsoft is to make Windows an operating service dependent on their servers to operate. Most people using win10 had it forcibly installed through windows update like a virus, and collaboration with nvidia is deliberate making hardware incompatible with win7 via driver updates.

The end goal is endless shekels from monthly operating fees. The cause for this change of policy involving old OSes is right there in the article "they’ll start charging a monthly subscription fee to get security updates."

You don't pirate the OS itself you use the crack for it on a legit copy instead, which is distributed for free.

Is there any videogame company that is not at all jealous of its intellectual properties?

as Nintendo is closed download sites of roms / Isos.

I look for retro consoles, which can emulators and Roms / Isos.

without any jealous company coming to close the site to download Roms / Isos

>>15443054

is that I look for emulators and Roms / Isos consoles.

but as nintendo is closing the download sites of retro games ..

and I'm looking for retro consoles that are from companies that are not at all jealous of their IP and thus be able to download emulators and Rom / Isos from those retro consoles

>>15440044

What a waste of Triple Dubs.

>>15443006

>>15443089

Wrong thread, make your own. This is a strictly PC thread.

>>15438901

>browser history (which shouldn't be created in the first place)

How stupid

What if you want to revisit a link you forgot?

>>15437975

>nichegamer

glad you archived it since that site is fucking garbage and has intentionally misreported the issue. The updates that will cost money are updates that only come after extended support (which is for companies only iirc) has ended. These same updates are also for companies only, not for consumers or home users. If you really want to use them, there will be a way to do so, just as there was for XP. I'm not going to come into this thread to say what OS anyone should use, I'm just going to clarify on the blatantly disingenuous reporting that NicheGamer pulled here, which they've become notorious for lately.

>>15439803

Many businesses still use Win95 and 98. The place I work at has cash registers using Win 95. Not too outlandish to think that 7 will last for a long time in the business market.

>>15437985

I have a better idea. Let's get Win 9x to use modern hardware.

>>15437985

Windows 98 in 2018

>>15440020

Who the hell ever said that?

64-bit Win 98 SOON!!!

>>15452591

It's not going to affect consumers. This is only for businesses using W7 long after the EOL and extended service. You have nothing to worry about.

>>15438788

It does require extra tinkering.

>>15439439

I hope this post was ironic or bait or some shit.

>>15439110

he's been doing it on everything for years already, there's no connection there

>>15452176

>It's also old enough not to be affected by hearthbleed or any of the new "super surprising" built-in vulnerabilities.

Actually spectre and meltdown work on CPUs all the way down to Core 2.

>>15439332

yes. Delet this.

>>15454041

But if I can't install pointless updates every other day, it's broken! This applies to all software. If it isn't being updated, then it doesn't work and needs to be replaced!

>>15454116

To be fair for gamers the Nvidia patches are important. Windows 7 will just work fine forever but whether or not hardware manufacturers will keep supporting it is another question.

I really long term recommend either windows 10 Enterprise LTSB or Linux. Windows 10 regular really is a piece of shit.

>>15454659

>Windows 7 will just work fine forever but whether or not hardware manufacturers will keep supporting it is another question.

They were already not supporting it anymore at Microshit's request. And you can get GPU driver updates from the card manufacturer's site you dumb meme spacing faggot.

It's only for enterprise editions.

>>15454663

The Japanese version has it.

>>15454663

I've downloaded all of the weeb themes and it was definitely worth it.

>>15437975

<However, the tech giant has recently confirmed that instead of fully cutting off Win7 holdout users, they’ll start extorting users by charging a monthly subscription fee to not get buttfucked by viruses they create

>>15454041

>forcibly making people """upgrade""" is giving a "free opportunity"

Funny, i'm still using XP to this day and never had any problems playing good vidya that weren't related to hardware issues.

Fuck 7 and Fuck 10. Moving to linux next month as well.

>start reading the thread

>Windows 10 is horrible it spies on you

>I'm sticking to windows 7

Microsoft has been spying on you long before Windows 10, they just decided they could be as blatant as they want now because normalfags don't care.

>>15456934

Sure about that now?:

>>15461279

>>15462549

Ill take the linux cuck option any day of the wee

>>15468466

>muh boot times

I too would rather ram botnet up my anus and surrender my privacy than wait 10 more seconds per day for the computer to start up.

>>15468490

>I don't need privacy

Typical NPC.

>>15468490

>>15468509

>I don't need privacy

lmao. (((They))) are always changing whats illegal, look at article 13 and tell me you'd be happy to be a part of the botnet. You don't think and that's why people call you an NPC.

>>15468528

Yea, they make being retarded underage faggot illegal. You literally have nothing to contribute to this thread if that's the way you are going to post and you're exactly the kind of "I don't care" that Windows 10 is built on.

>>15468473

Implying there is any difference in privacy between 7 and 10.

Implying the Os matters when CPUs are so full of vulns.

>>15468493

>NPC

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15468466

>Presenting new Windows 365 the mandatory and essential update to Windows 10.

Screencap this shit because I fucking predicted this bullshit. They did this to Office, they're doing it to Windows 7, Windows 10 is next.

>>15468509

Reported for not even fucking TRYING to hide your paid shilling.

>>15468651

NPC detected. Thanks for exposing that you’re not even human.

>>15454679

>And you can get GPU driver updates from the card manufacturer's site you dumb meme spacing faggot

Moron, win7 is supported until 2020 so ofcourse you can DL the patches from Nvidia. I am talking about POST 2020. Are you going to argue Nvidia will support win7 forever?

Look I am sorry if you faggots just want to make this a "I hate windows" Reddit hugbox. I am too anti social to care about fitting in so deal with it.

>>15437975

Why would I even update windows 7?

I turned that shit off years ago, my computer still runs fine, I can still install my drivers.

All windows updates do is add more spyware and fuck up your games, I had a windows update fuck up my entire computer for a month until they installed an update that fixed that, but then fucked up several of my games.

>>15442868

This.

They still make windows XP updates and sell them to corporations because something like 70% of all big businesses still run XP.

>>15469033

Find a ISO torrent or download. Put it on a USB drive with a program like Rufus that makes it bootable. And reinstall. Tough luck on finding out a way to keep you files. Maybe cut the hard drive into two partitions. I dont know.

>>15438117

Windows has been part of the botnet since 98. Look up NSAkey.

This is a complete non-issue, but many people in the thread don't comprehend what's happening even though OP lays it all out.

>>15469130

Microshit wants to charge its users for becoming part of the botnet. Did i get that right?

>>15439679

Having to start paying for windows outside of the one time purchase would literally multiply windows usership by 10x overnight, especially with how much publicity it has gotten recently

I havnt had to install on OS in so long

I have a le epin gaming laptop because im going to be going on a trip but it came with windows 10

how do I obtain and install windows 7 spoonfeed me please

sage for begging

>>15438069

>>15438010

>>15438080

You might want to look into Linux’ new Code of Conduct first, it’s no longer spyware free or safe to use.

>>15438497

ReactOS signed it too, they’re fully compromised.

>>15469033

>toaster

Ever considered moving to Linux? I know, it's quite limited when it comes to available games, but it's usually much better for modest hardware.

>>15471023

>ReactOS signed it too

Hello, i need the proofs?

>>15471023

>no longer spyware free or safe to use.

Source? I've read the code of conduct thing, it's that faggy SJW protection racket, but it seems to apply to developers, not end users. How does this make Linux spyware?

>>15471522

It doesn't, but it makes easier to expel devs that deviate from an ideology. I recall some guy who was kicked out from a project because he's into BDSM and of course that's sexist.

>>15469375

>needing to be spoonfed this hard

kill yourself

>>15469076

Windows was never buy once. Win7 was like $300 too.

Windows 10 is actually ridiculously cheap, that is because its ad supported now. Nobody pays for software anymore.

>>15457778

>Microsoft has been spying on you long before Windows 10

Sure, but at least you can turn off and remove telemetry functionality in WinXP to Win7 reliably and permanently without causing damages, unlike Win10 where it'll lose many of its functions when you try to do the same.

The former is an OS with spyware addons, the latter is a spyware with OS feature addons.

>>15474779

nerds don't cuck for pussy, they cuck because they see themselves as the pussy

https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/69-the-nerd-sex/

>>15471581

> I recall some guy who was kicked out from a project because he's into BDSM and of course that's sexist.

Which project is that?

>>15438507

If you are not paranoid you are a fool

>>15439834

>macs

>personal

get real

>>15471023

>You might want to look into Linux’ new Code of Conduct first, it’s no longer spyware free or safe to use.

Well that's a non sequitur if I ever saw one. You can hate the new CoC without going full retard, you know.

>>15471581

Good, if he's too autistic to keep his sexual life out of his projects he doesn't deserve to be in them.

>>15481374

He did, you stupid cunt. Some SJW managed to find the information in a completely unrelated forum.

>>15453952

*Pentium MMX

>>15454116

This is ironically true.

>>15439527

Shit can you run games on that though? The only reason I have a shitty second-class citizen HDD with Windows 7 installed on it is for the occasional video game that doesn't work on Linux and/or one of my consoles.

>>15490741

>As for Windows 10 they're likely planning to make a consumer edition free

It already kind of is. The trial you get for Windows 10 is actually endless.

>>15475847

>upvotes

>epic reddit gifs

>muh holocaust

>larping as racist boomer dads

How about no?

548 DOWNVOTES

EPIC BADPOST GIFS

(USER WAS BANNED FOR NOT SUCKING PLEASUREFAG'S COCK)

>>15438746

>Seems like security updates only.

Yeah. I'm sure they wont just bloat the OS every month and charge you for it.

>>15475875

https://www.inc.com/sonya-mann/drupal-larry-garfield-gor.html

>>15475847

The hell is this site? SA spinoff?

>>15491594

SA but slightly racist.

>>15469076

>I hope this spurs Linux to be a more viable alternative.

Trannies have taken over Linux. You're fucked either way. All the retarded 56%ers who can't operate a computer have won.

>>15438092

I'm actually slowly becoming a normalfag since most modern vidya is shit, so's the anime and then there's all these hostile consumer bullshits from microshit, denuvo etc that i'm just starting to get fed up and not even bother with it.

Better just get a dog and go out for a walk, visit the bar in the weekends, socialize, get a girl, have kids, go to work, engage in politics outside of /pol/ to save the white race and gas the kikes, read a book etc than bother with the modern vidya/tech apart from what's necessary to maintain my image and contacts amongst normalfags.

>>15437975

The next update for those that managed to avoid the win 10 force update will have win7 user's computers bricked.