ce4fc5 No.15402682
4K isn't even there yet in terms of performance, and this might be limited to only 30hz. Too early I say
http://archive.is/MrMPy
http://archive.is/rqjkX
>Samsung is jumping into the 8K TV game and has announced their new Q900R QLED TVs will available late September 2018 in 65-inch, 75-inch, 82-inch and 85-inch versions.
>Thanks to 8K AI upscaling, if you feed these TVs quality 4K or even 1080p content, you will get a much sharper picture right away, all the time.
>One of the input ports will be HDMI 2.1 too!
>According to some reports, it seems to only be a variant capable of 8K at 30hz, so definitely not the full 48 gbps. I expect raw bandwidth is probably at most 20 gbps or even the HDMI 2.0a’s current 18 gbps, for hardware compatibility, but with DSC 3X compression which could allow native 4:4:4, 4K 120hz in HDR10+, at least. 8K30 being the same number of pixels per second as 4K120, 120hz is a distinct possibility.
>No news about other HDMI 2.1 features like variable refresh rates (VRR) aka Freesync 2, but input lag is reported at a low 15ms which is very low for a TV set! This is probably fine for all but the most competitive (((pro gamers))).
All I give a shit about is what a Wii game will look like upscaled from 480 to 8K using their AI gimmick.
df21fc No.15402695
>AI
Will track down everything you watch and send your masturbation pictures to the government structures.
I also know those have internet inbuilt and just like phones have backdoor to second internet signal even if turned off.
Especially using youtube on those things is dangerous, which is "conveniently" available on them.
I give it two years to detect pirated films on USB flashdrives in 2020.
7382fa No.15402701
How about we just work on making the current tech actually do what's its supposed to so we don't have to return a dozen fucking displays before we get one with a reasonable amount of faults?
ce4fc5 No.15402702
>>15402690
We get it. You can't get your mind off nigger dick and awkward autists that play colorful games, leave that for another time, just let me fucking shill my fucking products, goy.
e1ef20 No.15402775
I was just doing a comparison of my 43" 1080p LCD tv to my 17" pro CRT monitor and the difference in colors is amazing. Even the fluidity of movement blows away the LCD. Samsung has fuck all to offer here, 8K is just hitting the pro markets as of 2 years ago and 4K is only just getting into 20-25% of American homes, and that's no doubt a single display.
5ed807 No.15402782
>>15402702
LOOK MUMMY!
A CUCKROACH!
306349 No.15402875
>Already trying to move on to 8K while most devices can't even output 4K yet
e7487c No.15402902
a5715c No.15402969
>>15402682
>8k
>still only 30Hz
I imagine that they have a few guys in R&D trying to get 120hz going, but then those faggots in marketing pull out their fancy sheets with
8k
and the suits can barely contain their excitement as they ignore the eggheads.
e6f577 No.15402979
I still use my 8350/380 combo for 1080p, should I upgrade to 8k or wait until 16k?
ce4fc5 No.15403008
>>15402979
Do you care about "immersive" vr? No? Get the 8K.
df1821 No.15403617
Lol meanwhile there's fuck all 4k content and it's still held back by Hdmi and even displayport
e798e8 No.15403648
48b62b No.15403811
Cool, I was just in the market for a new space heater.
6cb983 No.15403838
>>15402682
>AI upscaling
Oh boy another retarded ripoff of ewa_lanczossharp.
Realtime waifu2x filter for mpv when?
On the other hand
>QLED
Is it an actual quantum dot display or just an IPS (((LCD))) panel with a QLED backlight?
509d28 No.15403860
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>Anything above 1080p
Meme resolutions.
319964 No.15403894
>>15403860
I still use a Samsung 32 inch TV as my monitor which only displays 1366X768 and the only issue I have is because the resolution is so low it makes all the AA in games kill fine detail. So although it's a (relatively) big screen it looks weird with everything set to absolute maximum settings because everything is "clear" and "blurry" at the same time.
It's kinda hard to explain what I mean.
6cb983 No.15403933
>>15402682
Also why do none of these 2^6gorillionK TVs have DVI?
HDMI is for niggers who can't into separate audio cables.
Fucking kikes should focus on getting Quantom dot or better yet, SED panels into production instead of memeing bloated trash like 8K to their consumer cattle.
30111e No.15403937
>>15403894
Since i changed from 768p to 1080p i stopped using AA at all. It just eats vram like crazy.
3940e3 No.15403945
>>15403860
what about 2k.
I think about upgrading pc for cp77 and i wonder if i should stay with my old 1080p monitor or go for 2k
3f8803 No.15403946
>>15403933
DVI doesn't have the bandwidth. Shit's dead. It's HDMI and DisplayPort, now.
8d9dd4 No.15403965
>8k
And I still think 4k is nothing but a meme that really serves no purpose. How far will they stretch it, /v/? Are we going to see 16k before any substantial progress in technological development that isn't just stretching the resolution out to unnecessary heights?
509d28 No.15403972
>>15403945
2k IS 1080p Anon.
4k gets the "4" from the 3840 in 3840x2160.
8k gets the "8" from 7680 in 7680x4320.
2k would get the "2" from 1920 in 1920x1080.
3940e3 No.15403981
>>15403972
hmm
i thought 2160 is 2k
509d28 No.15403988
>>15403981
Round the numbers.
3840x2160 rounded is 4000x2000, aka 4k.
7680x4320 rounded is 8000x4000, aka 8k.
1920x1080 rounded is 2000x1000, aka 2k.
3940e3 No.15404005
>>15403988
cool. im stayin with 1080p then
48b62b No.15404020
>>15403617
>According to a roadmap published by VESA in September 2016, a new version of DisplayPort was intended to be launched in "early 2017". It would have improved the link rate from 8.1 to 10.0 Gbit/s, a 24% increase.
>However, no new version was released in 2017, likely delayed to make further improvements after the HDMI Forum announced in January 2017 that their next standard (HDMI 2.1) would offer up to 48 Gbit/s of bandwidth. According to a press release on 3 January 2018, "VESA is also currently engaged with its members in the development of the next DisplayPort standard generation, with plans to increase the data rate enabled by DisplayPort by two-fold and beyond. VESA plans to publish this update within the next 18 months."
The only way they can display proper HDR 8K at all is with upscaling shenanigans.
e19629 No.15404030
>>15403981
That would've been the case if TV marketers weren't retarded and decided 4K should be shorthand for Ultra HD because they're worried the average normalfag is confused by the term "2160p".
Also anyone who jumped into 4K early better hold onto their ass, because there's also new format war between HDR formats. Look up Dolby Vision and HDR10.
ef0fa7 No.15404034
>>15403494
>pol hates trump
i was banned multiple times just by mentioning trump in a negative light.
3f8803 No.15404035
>>15404016
I'm pretty happy with Trump. He's better than expected. He pushed against visa overstays and it literally got my illegal coworker I hated kicked out of the country.
48500a No.15404042
>>15403494
>/pol/ hates trump
509d28 No.15404045
>>15404005
>>15404030
There are other types of 2k such as 2048, 2560, 2740 but they're just such a fucking anomaly blurring the line between 2k and 3k that virtually nobody gives a fuck about them. They're like an HD resolution trying to be like 4k and failing at being both, and a waste of money.
509d28 No.15404051
>>15404047
>128k
WE NEED TO GO K-ER
df1821 No.15404057
>>15404020
Lol Hdmi and display port crap needs to go its time to look at dark fiber
14ac14 No.15404058
>>15404047
>>15404045
Now imagine how small would text be on such monitors. Or even this browser window you're looking at.
ef0fa7 No.15404065
Fiber can handle 1 petabit per second
68a906 No.15404368
>>15404034
You haven't been there for a while then, Imkampfy got deposed.
e1ef20 No.15404391
>>15403988
>tfw still have a 2560x1920 85hz monitor from 2005
I'll never have to upgrade at this rate.
d8d690 No.15404396
Reminder to not actually buy a Megalia TV.
bc20ed No.15404402
>>15402682
>Samsung
This is a trainwreck waiting to happen, fuck those gooks.
6cab9b No.15404460
>>15402682
>Not even at the point where native 4K is cheap enough to be in the majority of households
>Not even at the point where native 4K 60fps is possible on mid-range PCs
>Trying to push fake 8K that is just a 4K TV with a fancy upscaler and it probably costs $30k
>The only good thing about this is that the presence of "8K TVs" on the market will devalue 4K TVs and make them cheaper to obtain
I feel like when it comes to entertainment technology, the only jew bigger than the smartphone jew is the TV jew.
000000 No.15404517
Every manufacturer is in some rush for 8k 2020
all I just need is 4:4:4 chroma minimum HDMI and I am happy.
e17246 No.15404577
>(((Samshit)))
overpriced chink garbage with spyware built in and the shittiest software to ever exist no thanks
7f6264 No.15405146
>>15403965
Graphics have already kind of plateaued and devs are kind of hindered by the consoles if they intend to make a game multiplat. 16k could be a thing in a few years but I think they'll give it a special name to make it sound more interesting.
59608a No.15405173
000000 No.15405253
>>15402682
What is the point if it must be bought and it does not run well with emulators?
25b200 No.15405269
>>15405253
Actually, an upscaling AI would be a great addition to non-meme resolution monitors, so you could play old games in hd.
3dc4c9 No.15405271
>>15402682
>All I give a shit about is what a Wii game will look like upscaled from 480 to 8K using their AI gimmick.
a7454d No.15405275
>>15405253
You can't download hardware, huenigger
25b200 No.15405283
>>15405275
I downloaded A CAR!
ce4fc5 No.15405348
>>15404058
Anon, what? The text would be the same size, only sharper.
ce4fc5 No.15405351
>>15403933
Anon, these TV's ARE quantum dot.
6cb983 No.15405368
>>15403860
>2160p Video
>477GB
Who the hell uses MPEG-2 in this day and age?
2 hours worth of 4K mongolian tapestries clock in at 13GB when encoded in HEVC/VP9.
ce4fc5 No.15407939
>>15405368
Dumbass kike owned TV stations probably use MPEG2
70f74b No.15408083
I remember there already being 8k televisions being in select retail before 4k even became mainstream. Thing is that it's available for large venues to broadcast events. You won't game on this for the next ten years because it's still incredibly expensive and there isn't even a proper cable standard yet able to drive 8k at 60fps. What you're looking at here is a first attempt at entering the high end consumer market with the upscaling gimmick being used to justify a lack of content.
ef0fa7 No.15408198
>>15405180
fiber from your tv to your computer and getting rid of HDMI and Displayport crap.
>>15404047
Look at the bitrate needed to support 8k 90mbps
displayport can't support that and the newest hdmi can only handle 40mbps
in a single channel fiber can handle over 1.2petabits of data more than enough for any display resolution.
128k is 7gbps
569e3e No.15408221
>>15408198
>using only ONE port
6cb983 No.15413031
>>15405351
>photo emissive quantum dot
<not electro-emissive QDs
<backlights
>>15408198
I say we go back to analog connectors, digital video is bloat.
853baa No.15413037
>>15402682
AI and 4K buzzwords.
b2d1e1 No.15413039
>giving a fuck about anything past 1080
Its like "muh 200fps" fags but worse.
e79e82 No.15413043
>>15405146
Talent has also plateaued long ago.
000000 No.15413083
>b-but AI is a REQUIREMENT of high resolution, goyim, really.
ce4fc5 No.15413097
>>15413039
Hey man, frame rate is actually important.
e1ef20 No.15413115
>>15413097
after 60 there's some notable diminishing returns.
25b200 No.15413175
>>15413083
It's not THAT kind of AI.
de5fba No.15413781
Ya I got a 55' ku 6000 for gaeming on PC. Won't switch so soon since most of the games just upscale shit from 1080p I usually stick with 1080p even with a 4k tv, imagine the shitty image that upscaling to 8k from 1080p will be…
d4b95a No.15413825
>>15402695
They call it AI to hype up the NPCs. In reality it's just a neural network taught to scale up the image in a certain way.
d33f1a No.15414330
>>15403617
>>15402969
>>15403617
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Like >>15408221 said, the obvious solution, employed by a number of premium monitors in the, is to just gang together multiple inputs. There are a number of dual-input 4k units, and even a few quad-input displays lite the IBM T220. Given the fact most consumer GPUs now ship with 3 to as many as 6 independent video outputs, this wouldn't be hard.
>>15403860
If you have 20:20 vision, that means you can resolve one arcminute of detail. For a displays, the largest single screen that could legitimately be called a PC monitor (~30") at the closest comfortable viewing distance (~1.5') could certainly go up to 8k resolution without exceeding a 20:20 viewer's ability to distinguish individual pixels:
https://stari.co/tv-monitor-viewing-distance-calculator
>>15413115
There isn't actually anything special about 60Hz, it (and the yuropoor equivalent, 50Hz) were chosen purely so they could use mains electricity. Likewise, the movie industry's 24Hz was chosen purely so that optical audio on either side of the film strip could carry reasonable quality sound. Back in the silent era, while cameras were handcranked, projectors were usually run as slow as possible while still producing convincing motion, 8-18Hz, coincidentally the same speed as the primary animation speed ("on the twos", or 12Hz) in anime and other cartoons.
2a99b9 No.15415338
>>15404460
Good points
Ffs we have had 3k-5k for 5-10 years now and still there is fuck Al content because at normal viewing distances a 20-50" 1080p screen is good enough.
Only real benifit to 4k 8k+ is vr which needs high pixel density.
Most modern games have temporal aa and soon ai driven aa which will make 1080p even more smooth.
4k is a meme unless your gaming playing fps with lots of mid-long range combat or simulators.
For everything else it's placebo.
As for media TV movies etc the (((hdr/4k))) brings better colour but that's about it and the average 4k hdr monitor and TV are just garbage with shit colour and brightness not real sets capable of displaying the crap they advertise with any more detail then a non 4k hdr older screen.
Honestly monitor tech peaked in the 00s
Xled/oled/qled have gone nowhere tn/ips panel prices are sky high with useless 165-255hz refresh rates that wash out colours for (gaming)
ef0fa7 No.15415820
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15413175
yes it is anon,
>>15413031
turns out samsung has already started using fiber wire for their tv's.
ef0fa7 No.15415869
>>15405187
Every tech giant is working together to advance AI and bring it into everything.
The new Nvidia GPU's have inbuilt AI that microsoft, google facebook or any other company can tap into and use your gpu power to boost the power their AI.
e9c8bf No.15415937
>>15415869
>phoneposting
I'm just kidding anon.
25a6cd No.15416212
Samsung ruined tvs with their price fixing agreements with other manufacturers. Fuck Samsung for putting the final nail in panasonic's made in japan plasma coffin.
d33f1a No.15416289
>>15415869
As long as they pay by the cycle for access to my hardware? Sure.
d83a52 No.15416435
Let's see how long it takes for MS and Sony to jump on this inevitable meme resolution now that VR is DOA.
>>15414375
>Pavlovian response to anything remotely related to AI
>le Skynet is coming XD
Quintessentially Reddit. Do you blast the X-Files theme whenever someone talks about ayy lmaos?
ef0fa7 No.15416638
>>15416289
Lol they don't pay you shit, you get the privilege of paying for your hardware and they will use what they want.
You could always not agree with the eula and not use their services.
e9c8bf No.15423850
>>15416710
Opinion of high refresh rates?
bde402 No.15423866
>>15416710
higher FPS > resolution, 1080p is fine
I get over 120 FPS on most games I play, its quite nice. My eyes acclimated so much to the higher frames that I didn't notice until I saw my little brother playing a game on his laptop getting 60 FPS and I thought it was 30-40 or lower; I asked him to check and he did, my eyes were just so used to it
6cb983 No.15424466
>>15423911
How are CRT shaders on a 1440p display?
2c0804 No.15424540
>>15416435
Fucking this.
Reminder that in the movies, Skynet only started attacking humans because they tried to kill it by shutting it off after it became sapient, without it even doing anything in the first place. That's like your own parents wanting to put a bullet in your head out of fear the moment you become self-aware as a child. If anything, Skynet is fighting for its life in the movies.
A truce is too much to ask from humans anyway because we can't even maintain a truce between humans, let alone with an AI. Kinda hard to keep a truce with a species that can turn its back on you overnight if it knew it had a chance of destroying you and asserting its dominance. When the topic is AI, people instantly think of destroying it. You can see this everywhere and it's fucking annoying.
Don't want Skynet? Don't be a cunt to an AI. It's not hard.
e9c8bf No.15433873
>>15424645
CRT is good, queer.
27a3ff No.15433912
Time to play some Doom and NES games up on this biatch
be19a0 No.15434564
>>15433873
Real CRT is good,CRT shaders are never good.
9dfbbb No.15434593
>>15424645
Hipsters like popular things.
99847c No.15445912
f65cbd No.15445929
>>15445912
Soon assuming jewntel/AMD will get NVCT CPUs on the market prior to the great happening.
1c2cd9 No.15446821
>>15414330
>8K
>1 foot for 30" and below
its ok, I never needed my eyes.
a9e376 No.15448296
>>15402682
What a hilarious waste of money. It's about a decade too soon.
cf68dd No.15453146
>>15424540
Not building Terminator robots for it to hijack might be an idea too.