6f8377 No.15377946
Last time I played Pokemon it was when Pokemon Black & White got out and to be honest, it was a disappointing game, not bad but just not at the level of gen 1 & 2. Recently, I got back into it and finished Pokemon Y, and I was pleasantly surprised by how good the game is compared to the previous titles. The story is childish but alright, the five friends are really nice too, the enemies are great and each part of Kalos is memorable. Now I feel like an idiot because I'm slightly sad at the idea that I'll never get to discover this game all over again, kind of like when I completed Pokemon Gold when I was a kid. Am I the only one who really enjoyed this game ? And, is Pokemon Ultra Sun & Moon as good as X & Y ?
6b7d6d No.15378026
I never played X or Y, but you should give Black/White 2 a go.
44c2e2 No.15378031
If you like walking in a straight line with tutorials out the ass that stop you from progressing every 5 minutes while insulting your intelligence, play the 3DS games.
7c89c0 No.15378130
>>15377946
I thought X&Y were fine with the megas being underwhelming or not needed. I say try out Soul Silver or Heart Gold. They have lots of neat mons and a lot of post e4 content. US and UM couldn't hold my attention.
37ddb7 No.15378177
I recently replay pokemon emerald. havin a good time. has been like 10 years since i last played it.
Also got myself polished crystal romhack, I plan to play that when i finish emerald
3acac4 No.15378179
>didn't like B&W but liked fucking Y the thing considered a tech demo even by shitty redditors and the more retarded pokemon fans
Your tastes must have just gotten worse since that time, the only explanation I can see
736fea No.15378215
All the 3DS Pokémon games are bad. X and Y less so over S/M/US/UM. B2W2 is probably the last good entry. I don’t see how you can consider Gen 1 good. Maybe for it’s time, definitely not years later.
befdc3 No.15378373
>>15377946
I always play romhacks. I didn't bother with playing anything after B2/W2. But the lolis a top notch.
>>15378215
>Maybe for it’s time
I pity anyone who didn't grew in the 90s. I grew up in an area with the largest Japanese diaspora in Europe and the 1st time I heard about Pokemon was when someone showed me the trading card game and then when midori/red/blue came out it was just fucking mindblowing. Somethin like this was never seen before on a Game Boy or anywhere else for that matter
>catch monsters and train them to fight people
>you could trade them with friends irl
>secrets like Missingno or the Mew
>new episodes of the show running each week
It's probably mostly nostalgia, but in this case it's just that you couldn't do this ever again like it was back then. 1st gen is the sole reason Pokemon became so big. Also, the best part about Silver/Gold/Crystal was having a new game and traveling back to the old area.
6f8377 No.15378673
>>15378130
I wanted to get HG/SS ever since they got out but never got around to buy it, now I'm trying to run it in TWLoader but it's not great (Ultra laggy).
>>15378215
Gen 1 is what I started with and while it has its flaws that were fixed in Gen 2, I still love it.
>>15378373
>I always play romhacks. I didn't bother with playing anything after B2/W2. But the lolis a top notch.
X/Y Caught me off guard, I expected it to be kinda bad like most games after Gold/Silver/Crystal but I fell in love with the soundtrack and the world, which looks like a cartoonish version of what a Japanese person thinks France is like. Try to play it.
>I grew up in an area with the largest Japanese diaspora in Europe
Paris ? France has a serious crush on anything Japanese.
>Also, the best part about Silver/Gold/Crystal was having a new game and traveling back to the old area.
I remember the feeling I had when I understood I could capture Pokemons and travel the world with them, I remember how I felt after I bought Pokemon Gold at the store and realized there was going to be 100 more Pokemons, and how I felt after I realized I could go back to Kanto and there was going to be 8 more badges and then Red.
Digimon was the better anime, but they could never beat the Pokemon games.
5faade No.15378716
500330 No.15378721
>>15378673
>TWLoader
Get DSiMenu++.
1ced51 No.15379184
Honestly I felt that 6 was the worst gen in the series and mega evolutions permanently cheapened the franchise and were a clear marketing gimmick but whatever floats your boat.
Sun and Moon were better than XY by most standards. BW2 and HGSS were the best games in the series, I personally thought BW2 were the best but I can see and accept people who say HGSS. XY will be seen as the beginning of the end of the franchise if we actually see a sales dip for LG/2019.
101a99 No.15379198
>>15378373
>I always play romhacks.
They're coming for you toohttps://please use archive.is2018/8/29/17793044/pokemon-essentials-nintendo-takedown-fandom-wiki
The archive isn't working
101a99 No.15379203
>>15379198
God damn that filter
https://www.t h e verge.com/2018/8/29/17793044/pokemon-essentials-nintendo-takedown-fandom-wiki
2aee6b No.15379205
>>15378745
I want her to hug me
8cb832 No.15379216
>>15378745
that's not a lopunny, fagget.
d5da86 No.15379230
did gen 7 ever get any romhacks to make the games not a complete pile of shit like gen 6 did?
8b626e No.15379257
>>15377946
Nigga what the Hell? I'll give you BW being meh but X&Y being GOOD? What drug are you on? Regarless, BW2 is the pinacle of the game.
The Remakes of G1&2 are better than the original so if you want a nostalgia trip.
The best games are Emerald, Platinum or BW2. Granted some people really like HHGS so there is that.
4186d1 No.15379273
This post is fucking bait, right? Right?
What the fuck are you smoking.
How the hell could you enjoy X/Y more than B/W, is it because the graphics change appeases your tiny retard wojack posting cuckchan brain, that you link pretty colors to gameplay/mechanics for some dumbfuck reason and assume it's a good game from there? That's my only conclusion on how it could possibly be "memorable", since the game was the digital equivalent of an on-rails experience, and foreshadowed how worse the handholding was going to get in gen 7.
That shit was toxic fucking sewage, comparing it to Gen 2 is just even more insult to injury, Kalos doesn't compare to Johto.
I honest to god cannot believe I share a board with retards like you, never thought there could exist a cancerous fusion such as a Genwunner and a Gen 6 apologist, I'm blaming google de-listing us for this flood of stupidity.
At the very least play Black2/White2, I have a strong feeling you have a superficial view on gen 6, and don't really like it for what it is, but rather, how it presents itself to you and the fact that your standards were lowered considerably over the years due to a lack of pokemon.
4a1f49 No.15379357
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Threadly reminder that mystery dungeon spin-offs are way better than the main game. Also I want to fuck this bitch AND her daughter.
1621d6 No.15379421
>>15377946
That's an awful lot of nostalgia fagging OP. X & Y are shit and the only reason you like them is because they pander to kantofags-t kantofag
588a8b No.15379560
>>15379357
Cynthia is the superior blonde bitch, but this one and her pure daughter are okay I guess.
aeb0e4 No.15379584
>>15379357
well no fucking shit anon that's cause mystery dungeon games arent pokemon games, they're mystery dungeon games, an already great dungeon crawling rpg series toned down in difficulty for kids that will see pokemon the cover and buy them.
91db58 No.15379696
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>>15378373
Anyone curious about the sauce of the image, the artist who made it is mumumuka.
da2b10 No.15379763
Gen 5 duology is probably the best we're going to get out of GameFreak.
9f5380 No.15379790
>>15379584
>mystery dungeon
>difficult
7347b6 No.15380308
Honestly, USUM is definitely a step in the right direction. I feel like Game Freak are retarded and have no idea what they're doing when it comes to 3D, which is why we didn't get Z and why USUM is underwhelming compared to other third versions. By the time Gen 10 rolls around on the Switch's successor, they might be competent. While Ohmori is way too reliant on cutscenes and giving you free shit, I'm not sure Masuda is any better these days. Have you seen some shit he's been saying about Let's Go? Honestly I really hope we get better directors. Third version/remake directors are usually pretty good, but only because they have a complete game at most, or an outline and an engine at least. Unno's a fucking overachiever though, god bless him. On the other hand of course fucking Ohmori would make the worst remake aside from the absolutely wonderful secret base system. Iwao is apparently the successor to Morimoto, the guy who directed a lot of the third versions and remakes back before Gen 5. Iwao has a good attitude, from what I've seen. Rather than making new maps, which take time and effort I'm not sure GF is capable of, he instead added a lot of sidequests and Pokemon in the overworld. It makes the world feel more alive and fleshed out, which for an RPG is a nice thing to have. Then again I play JPRGs for the gameplay so what do I know. I guess the point is I'll probably pirate Gen 8 in 2019, but I might pick up the remake or third version, depending on how much I like it. I'd be wary of the franchise going forwards, but it's not as bleak as most people make it out to be.
0335a9 No.15380310
>>15379696
Which girl would you be in that image, anon?
b07ae9 No.15380540
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>having such shit taste that you think XY > BW
0335a9 No.15380580
>>15380555
>Trips
That's a boy, right?
8cb832 No.15380582
>>15380580
I hate your faggot guts.
57dfe6 No.15380614
>>15379790
compared to pokemon, probably
>>15378716
>wpwyf
the humanized ones
e8c061 No.15380801
Any fan remakes of genwun games replacing all pokemon with gijinka forms?
>welcome to the wonderful world of pokemon!
>everyone treating things as normal
>only you a young adolescent male can see that all pokemon are different types of tittymonster
57dfe6 No.15380923
>>15380897
>high heels
trash
also, what's your opinion of her being in the "amorphous" egg group instead of the "humanshape" one?
b22439 No.15380925
>>15380897
Your waifu is a slut.
c600f9 No.15380998
>>15380897
>Not shiny
>Shit IV's
Wonder Trade fodder.
9a66c1 No.15381325
>Playing Pokemon Colosseum for the first time in years
>Realize how much the selection of shadow pokemon kinda suck
>Being gen 3 most of them have meh to shit movelist with an exception of a few
>Say fuck it and put in some regular pokemon using PKHEX, but don't make them perfect so it isn't a curb stop
>Having fun again
I think that is what I hated about the game as a kid. Hated being restricted to so few and wished I could capture other pokemon (like the big guy with the Marshtomp or Metang). Otherwise it was great, and if you stuck with the original pokemon it provided was a real challenge due to how gimped you where.
Gardevoir's animations are really cute to
4aa5be No.15381365
Got bored and booted up Platinum, it came out about the same time I pretty much quit console gaming and went to PC exclusive (mainly MMO's, and FPS). It's okay, but I forgot how linear these games are; when I was a kid it seemed like red/blue where fucking endless, but now that I can look up guides, maps, stats, for literally anything it's kind of hard to build my own team and not just run through the game with a min/maxed tone. Once you get to the third gym it really just feels like a few gyms and team galactic buildings with grind corridors in between. Also it seems like a lot of the optimal pokemon are given to you towards the beginning of the game, my team comp hasn't really changed since the second gym leader except for evolutions.
b24ba5 No.15381497
The general consensus among patricians with good taste is that:
>HGSS and BW2 are the best core series games
>HGSS for the oldschool experience (Kanto and Johto, classic Pokémon)
>BW2 for the newschool experience (play BW1 first if you care about story)
You can also throw in Platinum in there.
Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum if you want to play the games chronologically and see how they evolved over time.
Stay away from the 3D nu-gens. They're terrible.
57dfe6 No.15381541
>>15381497
>Stay away from the 3D nu-gens. They're terrible.
All the important stuff from those games is available on Pokemon showdown anyway.
c9be26 No.15381622
>tfw fell down the rabbit hole
>tfw literally replaying Pearl on an R4 cart so I can transfer all my Rom mons from Colosseum, XD and Emerald to my physical copies.
>tfw autistically trying to get event Pokemon "legitimately" by cheating in the special items needed to encounter them instead of just cheating the pokemon in the game
>tfw using save editors and researching events so the mons I have to cheat in look legitimate just so I can have a complete dex
>tfw making a spreadsheet before every pokemon game just so I can define which mons I want on my team and which mons to look out for.
>tfw watching competitive breakdown vids on jewtube so I can see which movesets are best and what hold Items I should use.
>tfw I am literally playing 10 different pokemon games.
265596 No.15381659
>>15380308
It was better at times. Usually right at the end there was hope.
> Legendary Pokemon that was above the level curve you had to beat- not catch. Could take your whole team assuming you don't abuse Toxic, Punish, or the rock-stupid AI
> Rocket Castle showed real puzzles and decent trainers with more than just one Poke.
Biggest fixes the franchise needs to make IMO (ignoring the fact they are still turning a profit so they don't need to do anything TBH):
> All double battles.
> Make Protect/Detect a 5th "move" that all Pokemon have. Same rules as usual. Kinda kills two-turn hit moves. Perhaps Protect reduces damage (and if its reduced by a certain amount, it's just no damage) and Detect increases evasion for the next attack?
> Fix stat-buffing/debuffing moves. The Pokemons stats increase/reduce one stage per turn until they are back to normal. This means other debuffing/buffing moves can increase their effect to more than one stage. Pressure could cause an opponent's positive buffs to reduce by two every turn- making Legendaries more threatening since you can't just pour X items onto your Poke.
> Give trainers more Pokemon, and let them use items. Ace Trainers and Gym Leader used to use X items, with the above, they can again.
> Put Gym Leader's and Legendary Pokemon above the level curve. Then you have something close to Totem Pokemon/Ultra Necrozma.
> Lock the player into a gym until they faint, surrender, or beat the leader. Using items to heal is banned while inside as well. If you faint or surrender, all the trainers reset not sure if that can be abused to earn money.
> Legendary Pokemon need to be beaten in battle. Not sure how to implement catching them (either you throw a Pokeball at it when its fainted, it runs off to another location where you can catch it, you have a set number of turns to catch it before it gets back up and fights again at lower health, etc).
Aside from the protect/detect thing, I wonder if you could even do that in a romhack.
>>15381541
For a second I thought Flareon was biting her titty.
57dfe6 No.15381690
>>15381659
>the rock-stupid AI
so apparently Ultra Necrozma falls for Zoroark's illusion?
>> All double battles.
No, but make other battletypes more common.
265596 No.15381715
>>15381690
>so apparently Ultra Necrozma falls for Zoroark's illusion?
Yeah, that's the basis of the Toxic trick. Poz it, then swap to Zoroark disguised as something that is weak to Psychic. Ultra Nec. then spams psychic type attacks and doesn't understand why its not hitting Zoroark.
Meanwhile, you can hammer it with Punishment (since the Aura raised all it's stats by 1, it has 160 BP + STAB) and turn the whole fight into a joke.
It's a nice exploit for younger kids, but being its the first real challenge in a long time, its a shame.
> No, but make other battletypes more common.
Triple and Rotation battles were never my thing. I liked some of the stuff from the Battle Frontier (roulette, pike, even the AI controlled one). I'm surprised Reverse Battles haven't given rise to a Reverse Room move.
265596 No.15381723
>>15381715
Minor note: Zoroark can't learn Punishment. Night Slash/Dark Pulse will still do the trick though.
c1c60c No.15382235
as a literal retard, what's best game/romhack to play? preferrably gen2 for muh nostalgia. only played y which was too easy
c600f9 No.15382240
c9be26 No.15382347
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15382235
Crystal if you want dem gfx and that chiptune.
Heart Gold or Soul Silver if you want a taste of the new shit with some of that chiptune in the lategame.
713b99 No.15382569
>>15381541
>Pokémon Showdown
>wanting to play on that shitty site where you can only have fun by pretending to be starving bugmen
57dfe6 No.15382631
>>15382569
>>wanting to play on that shitty site where you can only have fun by pretending to be starving bugmen
>fullderp is bugmen
960658 No.15382641
Would /v/ be interested in honest, detailed reviews of ORAS and USUM?
57dfe6 No.15382657
>>15382641
>Would /v/ be interested in honest, detailed reviews of ORAS and USUM?
just do it
cf6218 No.15382704
>>15382641
Only of USUM, i already know why ORAS is a mess, i actually played the original games and emerald on release date and i replay them at least once a year.
6f8377 No.15382752
>>15378721
Seems cool, I'm going to install it.
>>15381622
I'm going to do the same, right now I'm collecting Dittos with every single nature, and two/tree perfect IVs each in the friend safari. Once I'll be done breeding perfect Pokemons I'll move everything to US/UM.
4dae42 No.15382907
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15382704
>i already know why ORAS is a mess
b07ae9 No.15384927
>>15382752
>2-3
Don’t all dittos have at least 3 in XY onwards? Also breeding in XY is definitely a smart move, it has more tools for breeding and training than any of the other games
6f8377 No.15386409
>>15384927
No, in the friend safari they have two, sometimes three but no more, or at least, I haven't found one that had more than tree and out of the 60/70 dittos I only have around 10.
3f6f06 No.15387001
Playing Platinum to and fro on my phone. It's been fun so far, but I find the 3 starters to be quite dull, other than the water one which is merely okay, but not a powerhouse of badassery like the original trio from red or blue or the trio from gold and silver.
8cd5cb No.15387638
>>15382907
Can someone give a tl;dr on this? I've been enjoying OR, myself.
6b7d6d No.15388090
>>15381622
And I thought I was autistic for being forced to look up better team composition and learnable moves because of a difficult romhack, instead of just throwing pokemon in my team that I like.
I still do that regardless, but try to keep most my bases covered.
cf6218 No.15388901
>>15387001
The gen 2 starters are much better then the gen 1 starters, what the fuck are you saying.
Lets say you're playing RBY and GSC instead of their remakes, charizard and bulbasaur have jackshit for moves (unless you waste precious, irreplaceable TMs on them instead of nidoking) while blastoise barely gets by with blizzard if you bought it and surf, but he gets it kinda late.
Typhlosion and feraligatr get fire/ice/thunder punch on on goldenrod via TMs you can buy as many times as you want and feraligatr gets surf really fucking early because GSC is retarded like that, meganium doesn't have shit though, but who the fuck wants a meganium.
1950ce No.15389526
I found Moon to be surprisingly enjoyable minus getting healed too often because Game Freak thinks kids are retards even more than I do. Loved the island challenges experiment, Lillie (not romantically, shut up), Guzma was cool, realized theme and lore with Alola both worldly and otherworldly, good music overall that was comfy or awesomely intense and immersive when needed like everything Aether Foundation, Z-Moves were fun and exciting to watch get that last needed hit in and in just one playthrough Alolan Raticate and Sandslash immediately skyrocketed to 3 of my favorite Pokebros of all time along with Golisopod. Kind of wanted to fuck Mallow and most of the female trainers and the E4 and fucking Professor Kukui were a pleasantly surprising challenge despite all my grinding.
Honestly, too many cutscenes, getting healed often and babying helping them gets critical hits, dodge or hold on with 1 HP a little too easier are the only real problems I could warn hardcore fans about. I just accidentally petted and gave them snacks too much because they all fucking earned it. Indecisive and fighting the urge to play Ultra Sun as a girl for some yuri since I heard Gladion's the one who leaves for Kanto this time and I never self insert anyways.
>>15382657
>sexualizing Volcarona
Fuck you, /v/.
9fb335 No.15389578
>>15389526
>implying that was sexualizing volcarona
You are like a little baby. Watch this.
8cb832 No.15389585
>>15389578
why must nezumi be like this?
9fb335 No.15389619
>>15389585
Apparently Nezumi is a woman.
imagine what her holes are like haha
8cb832 No.15389644
>>15389619
The thought of nezumi using her own roasty flaps as reference never crossed my mind, and now it deeply troubles me.
f26538 No.15389664
>>15389619
100% teriyaki-marinated wagyu beef curtains, real nippon cunt folded 1000 times.
c600f9 No.15390298
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>>15379357
Lusamine was the only good thing to come out of gen 7.
9a66c1 No.15390367
>>15386988
The best answer
57dfe6 No.15390373
>>15390298
>Lusamine was the only good thing to come out of gen 7.
>Lusamine
>good
>also implying Acerola and Mina aren't good
>implying Cutiefly and Ribombee aren't cute as fuck
9a66c1 No.15390380
>>15387001
>but who the fuck wants a Meganium
I do, its the starter I almost go with. Yeah its kinda lame but was one of my first starters, plus I always liked its appearance.
3aed5a No.15390511
>>15388901
>but who the fuck wants a meganium.
Meganium is pretty good with Toxic, Counter, Light Screen and Synthesis, I got through the battle tower with them in Ruby despite it just being a derp from colosseum.
da2b10 No.15390527
>>15387001
>Sun Wukong
>Steel penguin
>Island turtle
>Dull
They are much better than the rather bland Gen 2 starters. Next to gen 3 they're the best.
1950ce No.15390547
>>15390298
>>15390373
>no Rowlet or Decidueye
>no Alolan Raticate
>no Alolan Sandshrew line
>no Alolan Raichu
>no Wimpod line
>no Kommo'o
>no Necrozma
>no Lillie
>no Lana
>no Mallow
>no Acerola
>no Kahili
>no female NPCs like Lass, Ace Trainer, Beauty, Swimmer, Tourist or Dancer
"MILFs" will always be inferior used goods 2D.
1950ce No.15390583
>>15380308
I hadn't played Pokemon at all since White 2. I skipped VI after everything I've seen so I'll probably skip VIII as well to not trigger my autism and because I expect nothing but good new Pokebros to spoil and Pokegirls to fap to.
204fa7 No.15390591
>>15390547
>implying all 2D MILFs aren't virgins
1950ce No.15390604
>>15390591
Joseph is still a cuck. Being one to God doesn't change it.
Unless even Necrozma offered Lusamine a baby and fun with Ultra Space in exchange for otherworldly smashing and she just forgot when she went crazy, she's not a virgin.
57dfe6 No.15390727
>>15390591
>implying all 2D MILFs aren't virgins
>virgin mothers
204fa7 No.15391009
>>15390604
God is not cucking me, I am cucking god.
>>15390727
Like the Virgin Mary herself I tell ya
c7d300 No.15391326
>tfw the Pokémon trading card game has had an even more dynamic growth and evolution than the actual videogames
Makes you think.
3b8784 No.15391403
>>15381659
Half of those ideas sound just annoying
>>15390547
>Decidueye
>Lillie
Your taste will always be inferior
48383a No.15391421
>>15390367
>Gardy's face when
b24ba5 No.15392621
Shilling for PokeOne, the best pokemon mmorpg.
It was just released a couple months ago
6b7d6d No.15392879
>>15391326
>Pokémon trading card game
Do people still play that? I just collected the cards as a kid.
c33d8e No.15392929
>>15392621
>dl link locked behind discard
Put it up on mega or fuck off.
6ba344 No.15393418
>>15379696
Thanks for the sauce anon.
5faade No.15394770
These 3 are my favorite girls
f73912 No.15396579
>>15377946
>the big question hasn't been asked yet
Alright /v/ which Pokemon would your first choice be for traveling and not for anything sexual or degenerate
6b5226 No.15396737
>>15396579
Cubone hands down.
b5d691 No.15396744
>>15396579
Zigzagoon with pickup ability.
To get everywhere and for free shit to sell.
57dfe6 No.15396750
>>15394770
I find tsareena's arms to be freakishly short
>>15396579
>Alright /v/ which Pokemon would your first choice be for traveling and not for anything sexual or degenerate
A beedrill
0335a9 No.15396759
>>15396737
>>15396579
This is a good answer.
But nothing is stopping you from cuboning it, right?
c600f9 No.15396900
>>15396841
>Gliscor is flying type
>In every game it's been in it's always shown flying
>It can't learn fly
I'll never understand half the choices gamefreak makes in this game.
57dfe6 No.15396923
>>15396900
None of the flying-type gliders can learn Fly (or in japanese, "Sky Jump"), can they?
0335a9 No.15396927
>>15396900
>Gamefreak
>Game mechanics
b5d691 No.15396944
>>15396923
>Fly in english
>Sky Jump in japanese
Are you sure you didn't make some mistake?
Because move called Bounce is a thing.
57dfe6 No.15397037
>>15396944
It is "fly", it seems. I looked at Bulbapedo's translation for that move years ago (years before the exodus even), i guess there was a translation error back then that has been corrected by now.
maybe i should just learn japanese.
1d9d0d No.15397039
>>15396579
This cute little fucker has an amazing attack and solid defenses for such a small thing with low bst. It evolves into an unstoppable spirit of chaos which I affectionately refer to as RAPEAPE.
>>15396841
Solid choice love that thing
>>15396900
Just because a pokemon can fly doesn't mean it can carry a ten year old, much less your fat ass, on its back,
0335a9 No.15397041
57dfe6 No.15397044
>>15397039
>Just because a pokemon can fly doesn't mean it can carry a ten year old, much less your fat ass, on its back,
but pidgey can?
0335a9 No.15397046
>>15397039
So how can Doduo carry a player?
57dfe6 No.15397060
>>15397039
>This cute little fucker has an amazing attack and solid defenses for such a small thing with low bst. It evolves into an unstoppable spirit of chaos which I affectionately refer to as RAPEAPE.
Would Zen Mode be improved, if alt-forms could have their own move sets? It'd probably make some other formchanger broken though.
c600f9 No.15397064
>>15397039
>Just because a pokemon can fly doesn't mean it can carry a ten year old, much less your fat ass, on its back,
Pidgy can learn it and his 1 foot.
Zubat can learn it and his 2 foot.
Delibird and lean it and he has no wings.
347719 No.15397072
>>15396579
Cyndaquil. Post Gen V Cyndaquil need not apply.
57dfe6 No.15397077
>>15397064
Delibird flies with the arm that isn't holding the sack, according to Stadium 2
>>15397072
>Post Gen V Cyndaquil need not apply.
Why not?
1d9d0d No.15397079
>>15397044
I agree pidgey also shouldn't be able to learn fly
>>15397046
It runs really fast and jumps
5993c4 No.15397169
>>15396923
Fly's name in Japanese is 空を飛ぶ
The verb 飛ぶ means both fly (is is the case with 飛行機, airplane) and jump (as with 飛び込む, jump into; sometimes spelled with the kanji 跳ぶ if you're a pretentious Japanese author really like classical Japanese)
5faade No.15397177
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>>15396579
That's an easy question for me.
Latias (with Latiasite).
Midnight and daytime flying on my favorite pokemon would be absolute bliss. I could travel anywhere on my lovable, high-speed, jet/dragon girl.
In ORAS, Latias & Latios' normal forms are also shown to be strong enough to easily carry the weight of two people (Steven Stone and the player) to Southern Island. So in their more powerful Mega forms, I bet you can take another person along with you on your skytraveling adventures.
c600f9 No.15397182
>>15397177
That flying mechanic was so good, why the hell did they not reuse it in SM/USUM?
05ecc3 No.15397188
>>15397169
Which is why it has 空を on the front. 空を飛ぶ always means fly, not jump. Literally it's "fly in the air".
05ecc3 No.15397195
347719 No.15397202
>>15397077
Because the retcon redesign to be more like the anime is dumb and ugly.
57dfe6 No.15397213
>>15397182
>That flying mechanic was so good, why the hell did they not reuse it in SM/USUM?
To make the regions feel more unique :^)
a7a83f No.15397327
>>15396579
probably this little fella
6b7d6d No.15397553
>>15396900
I would try to make sense of it, but I realize I'd be putting far more effort into it than GF does, so whatever.
My second choice would have to be Quagsire. I love that mellow, goofy looking creature.
>>15397039
>Darmanitan
Holy fuck when I realized how hard that thing hits while still retaining great decent HP and defense. It's great.
5faade No.15397650
>>15397079
Never underestimate the power of newborn baby Pidgeys and Spearows.
>>15397177
[Just adding a little more to my post:]
Besides comfy flying adventures with my beloved Latias, she can also change her appearance at will. She can even shapeshift into a cute girl or turn herself invisible. She's basically Zoroark with the bonus of high-speed air travel. The perfect pokemon.
9cf818 No.15397777
>>15397182
I read an article saying it was a massive bitch to get working and they went on to say those QoL features made ORAS one of the hardest games to make. It makes me wonder if they were lying about the smartphone excuse and just ran out of time to make battle frontier due to adding on too much fluff.
e2b463 No.15397842
Someone have a full ISO for the hard versions of moon/sun and HG/SS?
e2b463 No.15397847
Also I don't understand why gamefreak didn't copy/port the style that pokemon collosuem and XD did for 3d pokemon. It was so much better then this X/Y and S/M shit.
b07ae9 No.15398558
>>15397060
zen mode is pretty much bad no matter what, the only way to improve it would be to make it function like the power construct but even better, the forme change would have to be permanent (in-battle) like Zygarde, and trigger before any healing items, unlike Zygarde. That way it could drop down to 25% somehow, eat a berry that heals 50%, then transform into zen mode with 75% health remaining
otherwise zen mode never has enough health remaining to be effective
1950ce No.15398617
>>15396579
Always.
Did you know this fucker can use Surf without needing a Water-type and even punch with his adorable sprites?
1fcd05 No.15398704
>>15397553
>darmanitan
>decent hp and defenses
What, in LC?
6a54d8 No.15398846
>>15398617
Furret is definitely underrated. It's not the strongest Pokemon around, but the fucker's like a swiss army knife and I love it.
48f1d1 No.15399466
Why are old pokemon games so expensive? Seriously, Black 2 or even HG / SS are actually more expensive than USUM. Ok, "pirate it", but I still want to know.
c600f9 No.15399470
>>15398846
>>15398617
The first time I ever did a solo run I used a Furret in Crystal.
6b7d6d No.15399533
>>15398704
Looking again I guess his defense isn't that great, still has decent HP though.
>>15398617
Furret a cute. I never liked normal types much though.
f803b1 No.15399558
>>15379230
US UM got difficulty hacks, but after trying them it still couldn't make up for the snails pace of the story and largely uninteresting mons.
57dfe6 No.15399610
>>15399602
that's a lot of ferret to cuddle!
c600f9 No.15399617
>>15399602
Blastoise is an even smaller manlet at 5'3.
4b2c65 No.15399628
>>15398617
I always loved this pokemon, every time I would play Gold, I'd pick him.
a2bb82 No.15399652
>>15396787
Excellent taste
1fcd05 No.15399673
>>15399602
TOO BIG FOR SM(OGON)
57dfe6 No.15399676
>>15399652
Drapion is a pretty good arachnid-mash-up
>poisonous stinger tail like a scorpion
>poisonous jaws like a true spider
>poisonous claws like a book scorpion
>flexible prosoma and powerful jaws like a sun spider
i can't find drapion in my disorganized folder, so have a different arachnid monster instead.
5faade No.15399724
>>15398617
Furret's walk cycle
5faade No.15399743
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Nearly every pokemon's walk cycle is here. If Sun & Moon already had walk and run cycles for everyone, why didn"t the devs do another HeartGold/SoulSilver thing where your pokemon follow you?
c600f9 No.15399749
>>15399743
Who knows, gamefreak has a habit of removing features players like.
57dfe6 No.15399774
>>15399743
>Nearly every pokemon's walk cycle is here. If Sun & Moon already had walk and run cycles for everyone, why didn"t the devs do another HeartGold/SoulSilver thing where your pokemon follow you?
<Ran out of time, there's a bunch of rushed and unused shit in the game.
<They were just made for use overworld decoration, they just made it for everyone so they can use the unused ones later (like Xurkitree running around in its homeworld.)
My guesses.
e65869 No.15399798
>>15399743
>venasaur's walk cycle is different from the one in go.
alright then gamefreak.
a7a83f No.15400037
>be playing crystal
>get to Jasmine, but haven’t saved in a long while
>end up using one savestate to beat her because im too lazy to go through the fight a second time
>feel gross for technically cheating, even though i would have easily won the second attempt
>don’t want to reset because my last save was a few hours ago
>don’t want to continue because my autism won’t let me
i feel like i should just suck it up and play it from the beginning again. I also kind of want to pick cyndaquil over totodile now.
4b2c65 No.15400040
a7a83f No.15400054
>>15400040
okay thanks that was the push I needed
what's a good nickname for a cyndaquil
4b2c65 No.15400059
9a66c1 No.15400060
a7a83f No.15400069
>>15400060
but what if it's a boy cyndaquil
4b2c65 No.15400073
a7a83f No.15400074
f21129 No.15400127
>>15399743
some form of future proofing, and/or they wanted to make animations for every pokemon so they could have an idea of what actually looks good in the overworld, just for background stuff or limited following capability. Although I'm worried they're going to keep spending significant amounts of time on future-proofing (models, textures, animations) for future entries and continue releasing rushed, unfinished, or otherwise poorly made games since theyre dumping all their time into features that wont actually show up until the next console generation.
>>15396579
I would like a Muk, but they smell terrible. Thank G_d for Alolan Muk which not only doesn't stink, but it eats garbage of all kinds. I could probably get my neighbors to pay me to take out their trash instead of the cunt of a disposal man who keeps dragging the cans 30 feet down the street and dropping them sideways. Only issue is I have to clean up hardened shards of ultra-toxic plastic "poop".
Or maybe just a Mawile.
9e9df4 No.15400177
>>15400127
What do you think an alolan muk smells like haha
just curious haha
Muk eating babies fanfic when
a7a83f No.15400196
>>15400127
Was just reading the pokedex entries
>Because they scatter germs everywhere, they've long been targeted for extermination, leading to a steep decline in their population.
Poor muk
f21129 No.15400668
>>15400196
Pollution has, for the most part, been taken care of in the utopian fantasy world of Pokemon. Conservationists are intentionally constructing sludge ponds for Grimer and Muk to prevent extinction.
Alola found a great use for them. Greatly reduces land and groundwater pollution caused by landfills when 90+% of all non-recyclable residential waste is just food for Muk. As a bonus, we get a cool alternate forme.
>>15399466
HGSS is made more expensive by the Pokewalker toy. It was a cool feature. I'd like something like that again, but blistering incompetence and poor organization will prevent it from happening even as a companion phone app.
6b5226 No.15402806
>>15397670
how to lose your dick
193e71 No.15402866
>>15402806
It'd be a pretty hot way to lose your dick though.
1eb2d8 No.15404605
>>15402866
yes, burning it off with magma would be literally hot.
193e71 No.15404636
>>15404605
I meant it in both senses you autist.
ac075b No.15405773
>>15399743
Gamefreak is always thinking ahead, they future-proofed those models so they could be used again and again, they probably did the same thing with the walking animations
4b2c65 No.15405799
Well, that's it.
I finally got a foot into competitive battle, my first 5iv pokemon hatched today, an adamant Axew I named Labrys with mold breaker. Next pokemon, Crobat with infiltrator and a Zangoose with toxic boost and probably a Scizor of some kind, I don't even know where this is going but I'm enjoying it.
ac075b No.15405805
>>15405799
One thing to keep in mind when you round out your team is that you'll want to have Pokémon you can switch in to cover each other's weaknesses. So far it actually looks pretty good, but you don't any special attackers.
4b2c65 No.15405891
>>15405805
There's a couple of special types I have in mind like Venusaur, Ninetails, Vaporeon, Umbreon, Alakazam, Gengar and Dragalge. I'm probably going to get a Dragonite and a Weavile.
1fcd05 No.15405936
>>15405799
>Manually breeding mons
>Manually breeding shitmons
Enjoy getting swept by lando for all your weeks of effort.
4b2c65 No.15408156
>>15405936
>Not wanting to be the very best by working hard
838598 No.15408384
>pokemon black and white
i want to fill the black loli with my white seed
000000 No.15409829
What if
the "Heavy Metal" ability gave the user's steel-type attacks a 30% chance to poison ther target(s), in reference to metal posoning and the radioactivity of the heaviest metals?
3765c5 No.15409995
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i know there is a doujin out there about people fucking their pokemon, but imagine if that was like a normal part of that world.
>Sex with pokemon
God what I would do to a female Blaziken if it were real and I owned one
57dfe6 No.15410039
>>15409995
Do not fuck birds
0f8325 No.15410051
does anyone even play pokken, its so shit
57a81a No.15410136
>>15410051
I play Pokken competitively and would be willing to bet the reason you think it';s shit is because either
>Your favorite pokemon didn't make it in/rosterfaggotry
or
>You are a casual and wish it had more modes or like 60 characters a la the naruto games at the cost of gameplay depth
As a competitive fighting game, Pokken is fantastic, legit probably the best one released in recent memory alongside Killer Instinct. It's without a doubt the most well balanced, if nothing else. Nearly the entire roster is viable in high level play, and low and mid tier characters almost always still show up in top 8's at major events.
48383a No.15410173
>>15410051
I did enjoy Aravoir
4ee821 No.15410175
>>15410051
You fucking faggot.
b24ba5 No.15410178
>>15398617
Best early rodent.
0f8325 No.15410940
>>15410136
Neither of those is why I dislike it.
I don't like how simplistic the combos are and the 3D mode-field thing
Also the playerbase seemed very very dead last time I played and looked up shit
265596 No.15411036
>>15400127
>Although I'm worried they're going to keep spending significant amounts of time on future-proofing (models, textures, animations) for future entries and continue releasing rushed, unfinished, or otherwise poorly made games since theyre dumping all their time into features that wont actually show up until the next console generation.
Ever since the 3DS generation, there's been a knock-on effect of unfinished shit, or hastily made battles/areas/etc. Arguably maybe even Diamond/Pearl (a Fire type Elite Four in a region with only one wild Fire type).
But, the games still sell. And they incentivize it further with special Pokemon/Items if you buy it within the first week of release.
It ain't gonna get better, unless someone takes a retard pill at Game Freak and says
> Hey, you know how Breath of the Wild sold gangbusters when they took a risk and did something different even though it was a sub-par version of others games in that genre?
> Why don't we try it!
**I mean they kinda did for Go, but I meant a mainstream entry that had great upheval)
3e6a51 No.15411221
>>15396579
Brobat. (Raising that Zubat was worth it in the end)
57a81a No.15411429
>>15410940
>I don't like how simplistic the combos are
Have you actually watched any high level gameplay? Most BNB combos in high level play tend to be somewhat lengthy, though it depends on the character, and optimals take a lot of timing and spacing requirements to pull off for a lot of the cast.
As an example, I main weavile, all of his corner optimals require super strict timing for using icicle crash juggles and then continuing to combo as the character starts to slide down the wall, if you mess up even a bit then the combo gets dropped since it requires you to jump and hang in midair icing the ice platforms at the exact right time, which causes too much endlag if you mess up the timing to continue the combo.
No shit the automcombos are simple but in high level play you won't see those used much.
> and the 3D mode-field thing
It's easier to think of this as an anti-infinite mechanic for the 2d phase then an actual big part of the game
>Also the playerbase seemed very very dead last time I played and looked up shit
Not at all. You still get matches online (on the switch version) within 30 seconds or so, and the game has been at around 15 majors since march or so. The reason it seems dead is just because the community is so centralized around the Pokkenarena discord server that nobody ever posts shit outside of it so unless you know that exists or follow key community people/players on twitter you won't see anything about it.
7da782 No.15411469
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>>15408384
Don't usually care for lolis but there are always exceptions.
f73912 No.15411918
>>15411221
>Crobat
Top tier taste.
I actually went with a Zubat a few years back out of curiosity from all those stupid memes about Zubat being too abundant. Crobat ended up being the single best Pokemon I ever used in a playthrough. Strong, bulky, and it outspeeds most other Pokemon.
e3e6f4 No.15412438
>>15411918
Is there a move Crobat can learn that will paralyse opponents?
I did that with my Misdreavous once, with Confuse Ray and Thunder Wave, both which hit 100% of the time. Half the time they couldn't do anything and half the time they did anything they only hurt themselves in confusion.
People fucking hated that and it was amazing.
c600f9 No.15412541
>>15411221
Back when I first played Gold as a kid Crobat was my main lead and he was the one who took out Red for me, Wish they gave him a mega he deserved it after all the hate his prior forms get.
c600f9 No.15412577
>>15412438
>Is there a move Crobat can learn that will paralyse opponents?
No but he can learn Hypnosis by breeding with either a Noctowl or Sigilyph.
e3e6f4 No.15412625
>>15412577
I don't like Hypnosis for harassment as much, since it wears off so quickly. Paralysis doesn't go away on its own and it great for that.
57dfe6 No.15412636
>>15412625
> Paralysis doesn't go away on its own and it great for that.
just use secret power :^)
c600f9 No.15412688
>>15412625
>I don't like Hypnosis for harassment
Get both Toxic and Hypnosis then.
e3e6f4 No.15412727
>>15412688
I thought a pokemon could only have one status effect at a time? i.e. can't put them to sleep if they're poisoned.
Have they changed it in recent generations?
c600f9 No.15412741
>>15412727
Oh right i'm a fucking idiot.
8a680f No.15412866
4b2c65 No.15413011
I got myself a 6IVs Slowpoke and a 3IVs Mawile in the wonder trade, should I try to use them competitively ?
57dfe6 No.15413077
>>15413011
>Competition in something as RNG heavy as Pokemon
doesn't like the best idea to me.
a35027 No.15413159
>>15413011
if the Slowpoke has regenerator then sure. Mawile? If the 31s are HP ATK and DEF, then maybe.
4b2c65 No.15413187
>>15413159
Slowpoke 6IVs, regenerator, rash nature.
Mawile 3IVs, HP DEF SPE ATK, adamant nature, sheer force ability.
a3b485 No.15413380
>>15387638
I haven't finished it yet, but from as far as I've gotten (Regigias) the TLDW is that the game is good overall, with a lot of interesting mechanical differences, but they went full retard on the story, not accounting for gameplay concessions the original devs had and how the story was first written.
Also, Pokemon in General is way too easy, but he can't think of alternatives.
a35027 No.15413591
>>15413187
Rash kinda sucks for Slowpoke (probably why the guy traded it away), I'd just use it for breeding other pokemon. Mawile I'd use as is - Sp.Def is not too much needed. My favorite set is Substitute + Focus Punch, since steels like to come in, and that kills them.
4b2c65 No.15414195
>>15413591
>Rash kinda sucks for Slowpoke (probably why the guy traded it away)
I have two boxes full of Dittos with each natures, so I don't really care about this slowpoke being the wrong nature, it has perfect IVs, for the Mawile I want 5IVs so there's a bit of work to be done.
f73912 No.15414328
>>15412688
>>15412727
>>15412741
Toxic and Confuse Ray works. The opponent gradually loses more HP form toxic while half the time confusion will leave them unable to attack and lose even more HP.
88488b No.15419459
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>>15400668
>Those BLUE artworks!
57dfe6 No.15419659
>>15419459
i think i still don't get why they became dark type from eating chemical waste
ae261d No.15419680
>>15419659
They needed to change it somehow, but didn't have better idea to do that.
c600f9 No.15419819
>>15419459
The art style went to shit with later releases.
6b7d6d No.15419845
>>15419819
Did the original artist die or something? I still don't understand why there's such a strange shift in designs. Gen 1 was great, 2 was generally awful, then 3 picked up the slack a little and from there it's been kind of a mixed bag of decent vs bad designs with the latter outnumbering the former as time goes on.
I know there's multiple people designing the mons, but obviously they did something different the first time around.
000000 No.15419883
>>15419659
>>15419680
speaking of Alolan Muk, wouldn't it be nice if Power of Alchemy (and Passimian's Receiver) could copy the ability of whatever Pokemon you just switched out to send Muk/Passimian in, instead of copying only a fainted partners ability?
>>15419819
I like that Gen 1 Crabrawler better than the original one, but Crabrawler is also one of my favorite 3ds era designs.
But yes overall, it got worse.
>>15419845
one thing i don't like about recent designs is "young" Pokemon like Fennekin and Pikipek having such huge heads.
6b7d6d No.15419915
>>15419883
I never liked the "baby" pokemon too much. Some were alright but most just looked too kiddy, that got worse as the generations went on. I just can't stand the "round" shape everything has these days, Crabrawler is a perfect example of it. Alolan Raichu would be another. They look like plushies more than animal-like creatures.
ae261d No.15419930
>>15419883
I am not sure, because I didn't played Gen 6 and 7 games yet.
57dfe6 No.15419936
>>15419915
>Alolan Raichu would be another.
Alolan Raichu also showcases current gamefreak's laziness, as it doesn't have gender differences like Pikachu and normal Raichu. All Mega- and Alolan Pokemon based on Pokemons with gender differences don't have them.
4b2c65 No.15420690
>>15419845
>2 was generally awful
kys
>then 3 picked up the slack a little
kys even harder
7347b6 No.15420836
>>15419936
They pretty much dropped gender differences almost entirely, I can only think of 4 post Gen 4 Pokemon with gender differences. Granted they're different enough to warrant different box sprites but who gives a shit. I'm pretty sure no Gen 7 Pokemon have gender differences. But of course they have to give female Eevee a heart tail because of Let's Go.
5faade No.15420926
Would pokemon games be difficult to beat if you restricted yourself from healing the HP of your pokemon? Self-imposed rules like not using the free pokemon centers, HP-healing items like potions, and forcing your pokemon to carry their wounds from one battle to the next.
f886db No.15420933
>>15419819
Haha, somehow missed this. Yeah the genwun crab is amazing.
5011e4 No.15420941
>>15420926
They'd be impossible to win, then. You'd literally never heal and short of constantly switching out pokemon with new ones you've captured, they'd all die sooner or later from grinding.
8f8cf9 No.15420992
>>15420926
A no pokecenter run would fuck you over more in the way of rarity of PP restoring items before health became an issue.
f21129 No.15422235
>>15419845
Sugimori was the art director responsible for finalizing and greenlighting designs. He had the final say on how the designs would all come together and was responsible for the aesthetic of what makes something look like a pokemon instead of a digimon or a tamagotchi or just some monster a kid drew. basically nobody has actually managed to capture this aesthetic outside of pokemon.
Every generation has its own overarching design trends, because you can't expect an artist to remain the same every year, much less 20 years. Gens 6 and 7 favored smoother surfaces and an overreliance on "cute" for the NFEs. Since most pokemon are NFE at the end of the day, and most opponents wont even evolve their zubat until its level 40, you wind up being overexposed to the designs that are seemingly being phoned-in since "the player will just evolve the mon anyway and forget about the base form"
I think they might be using design-by-committee on a handful of monsters now, especially the starters, in a purely marketing-based effort to capture as many potential suckers customers audiences as they can. As a result, we get plenty of mediocre designs with soft, smooth features that are looking increasingly similar to plush toys.
>>15419936
Don't forget the beautiful rat.
The gender difference for common rat was just whisker length. It's next to nothing. Just fucking do it again.
1ced51 No.15422293
In a franchise famous for low effort rehashing this game is probably the lowest effort rehash they have ever made
1ced51 No.15422347
>>15391326
>1999
>metagame is basics that can attack for 1 attachment
>2018
>metagame is stage 1s that can attack for 1 attachment
The game has had its good times but right now is not one of them. Even just compared to last year the game is twice as centralized around a tier 0.5 deck and its tier 1 counter. Sun and Moon base set really ruined the balance we had in XY era and the power creep has been going crazy since then with them introducing a new broken thing to defeat previous broken thing, but the designers are so incompetent that they were only able to do that for three sets before they accidentally introduced something so broken that they haven't been able to outbroken it without completely ruining the game.
They're getting serious though, this is an actual, non meme card that will be printed and as far as we know legal for standard play. And they're gonna make more like it.
7347b6 No.15422868
>>15422235
There's also the ever expanding team of designers. In Gen 1 there were only 4 Pokemon designers. Compare this to Gen 6 and 7 where despite there being less Pokemon (even if you count Megas and Alolan forms) there's like 20 of them. Even Gen 5 had less designers at only 18, and that was the largest amount of new Pokemon ever. Arigara's the best new post-Gen 5 artist though so I can sort of forgive it.
f20184 No.15422873
>>15422293
It could've been so good, it got so close to almost being good
Fucking DeNa
75acb3 No.15422877
>>15381325
fuck yeah, man, I transferred my pokemon from gen 3 using trigger's PC, and I just had fun with the double battle aspect of it. It's super fun
6b7d6d No.15422983
>>15422868
>there's like 20 of them
Well that explains a lot.
4b2c65 No.15424169
Well I thought I was done breeding some pokemon but I forgot the egg moves, back to grinding eggs for me.
f21129 No.15424445
>>15424169
That blows. Make sure to pay more attention next time.
I think the best order to breed in is Ability > Egg-Move(s) > Nature > IVs
EM and Nature can kind of be done at the same time depending on the moves needed and where from, and whether or not you're playing bingo on natures.
If you're breeding for Hidden Power or for 0s in Atk or Speed, then you might want to keep an eye on the IVs from the start in case something comes up.
I write down roadmaps for breeding, and have EVs and everything else about the final product plotted out before I begin. Egg Moves can be something else when 4 moves come from 4 different parents and half of them involve chainbreeding.
4b2c65 No.15424565
>>15424445
I'm pissed off but I'm not completely put off, I just wanted to get a dozen perfect Pokemons ready in XY before I started Ultra Moon. At least I have a couple of pokemon with 5IVs. But I was wondering, when I leave my Pokemons at the daycare what happens to their eggmoves when they level up ? Do they get replaced by whatever other moves and if yes, can I relearn them by talking to some NPC ?
6d4340 No.15424573
>>15377946
Are you retarded? XY are the worst games in the series and BW are one of the best.
59d128 No.15424604
>>15424565
Just use bottlecaps they are really easy to get from certain lottery shops because it'll take you a while to get through the railroading.
89c6b4 No.15424611
God Tier;
HG/SS
Platinum
B2/W2
Emerald
Great tier
B/W
Crystal
FR/LG
Good Tier;
R/S
Yellow
Okay Tier;
OR/AS
G/S
R/B/G
Bad Tier;
D/P
X/Y
Garbage Tier;
S/M
US/UM
Somehow more Garbage than Garbage Tier;
Pokemon Go
LGP/LGE
No hope Tier;
Gen 8
f21129 No.15424637
>>15424565
Moves get forgotten in the day care as new ones are auto-learned via level-up. In older generations those Egg Moves would be lost forever, but one of the QoL improvements in Gen VI was that Egg Moves are now imprinted on the Pokemon and can be relearned via the Move Reminder if forgotten.
So yes, you're safe. This time. If it was pre-3DS you'd have to slap yourself and try again.
4b2c65 No.15424655
>>15424604
I need a good team first to grind the battle maison for that, and the caps do not give you access to hidden abilities.
>>15424637
Ok, thanks. While I'm a it, how do I get a Tyranitar with sand stream ? People seem to disagree on how to get there.
f21129 No.15424692
>>15424655
>Tyranitar with sand stream
Sand Stream is Tyranitar's regular ability, as well as its Mega's ability. This is one of those mons where you want to avoid the Hidden Ability (in this case Unnerve).
Just get ahold of a completely normal Larvitar with Guts and you're good to go. Only bother with Sand Veil (HA) for collection purposes if you are so inclined.
4b2c65 No.15424760
>>15424692
Ok, I just got my Larvitar with guts, it's the ability that augments the attack if there a stat problem right ? (I don't play my game in English) Now I have to breed it for stealth rock, get a cranidos and breed it for pursuit.
f21129 No.15424837
>>15424760
Yes. Guts increases Atk when inflicted with status conditions like Burn/Poison/Paralysis.
When it evolves it'll become a Sand Stream Tyranitar and whip up a Sandstorm whenever it switches in.
Depending on what you want out of it, Dragon Dance is also a good Egg Move. Comes from the Axew/Haxorus line. Stealth Rock can also be learned as a Tutor move in Ultra Moon, in case you feel like skipping that as an Egg Move.
4b2c65 No.15424863
>>15424837
>Depending on what you want out of it
I'm following the instructions on smogon so far, I'm not an expert in strategy. Right now I'm kind of interested by a Pelipper with U-turn and Drizzle lead and Mega Swampert sweep.
4b2c65 No.15424949
>>15424863
Alright, I have my Larvitar with stealth rock and pursuit but I think I'm going to have to complete Omega Rubis in order to teach it fire punch and get ice punch on Swampert. Looks like I should use Pokemon Y and Omega Rubis to collect what I need and do the breeding in Ultra Moon.
57a81a No.15426561
>>15424573
>>15424611
People shit on XY too much.
XY is more a case of wasted potential then actually being bad, i'd put it on par with the original R/S, it just never had it's emerald to really push it to new heights.
On that note, putting ORAS below R/S makes no god damn sense, it's the same shit with quality of life improvements, more content, etc, and it's not even really casualized compared to the original game either: As with XY, people just shit on it because it could have been way better even if on it's own merit's it's still fine.
Also
>Putting anything in gen 1 above bottom tier
On litterally any objective level the gen 1 games are the worst. They are buggy as shit, mechanically broken, and look like trash.
1950ce No.15427050
>>15426561
I'm too bitter about everything after the 2nd gym, but SM definitely aren't trash despite their handful of major flaws
9feb7c No.15427224
>>15426561
>On that note, putting ORAS below R/S makes no god damn sense
No it makes complete sense. It's the same game will all the trappings of the newer ones, also it replaced the post game of Gen 3 with a god awful side story which also axed that games only real post game dungeon in as collateral.
Also
>Includes XY EXP share (of course with no original version hold item alternative so don't give me this "You can turn it off" shit)
>Not capsulised much
Imagine playing the gen with the lowest EXP yield with an elite four made around it with Pokemon only in the high 50s for the champion but you're there with Pokemon in the high 60's since you've essentially run a X6 EXP cheat through the whole game then thinking the experience hasn't been casualised.
c9c5df No.15427265
>>15426561
>3ds gens apologists enter the thread
Oh boy.
>On litterally any objective level the gen 1 games are the worst. They are buggy as shit, mechanically broken, and look like trash.
Nope, at least with the gen 1 games the glitches actually allowed you to do some ridiculous shit like sequence breaking. Compared to the sterile gen 6/7 games with horrendous slow downs and forced railroading the gen 1 glitches are a godsend.
57a81a No.15427328
>>15427224
>It's the same game will all the trappings of the newer one
Correct, it's the same game with the quality of life improvements the series has had since then, extra pokemon, etc. So the same game but better
>also it replaced the post game of Gen 3
Gen 3 only had good postgame in emerald. I'm not saying ORAS is better then emerald, i'm saying it's better then the original RS
>>15427265
That's fucking absurd, the fun glitches Gen 1 has doesn't fucking make up for half the types having 0 usable moves, the broken balance, etc.
f70d22 No.15427365
>>15427224
>>15427328
You assclowns forgot the carnidnal sin of ORAS and every game post black/white.
the nerfing of Steel so that dark and ghost bypass it, making a ghost type beyond fucking broken and steel types fall to dead common dark attacks with damn near nothing to stop them
9a66c1 No.15427470
>>15424611
Switch OR/AS and US/UM and I would say its a pretty solid list.
9a66c1 No.15427484
>>15424863
>smogon
Don't rely on it too much, try to come up with your own strategys.
3dfcb1 No.15427513
>>15427484
I don't know to much about strategy and I don't really know where to start.
23ad69 No.15427611
Alright faggots here's how it goes:
>Red/Blue/Yellow
Where everyone should start, if only so you can learn the basic flow and gameplay loops. Yellow foists you with a Pikachu, but it gives you all the other three starters as you progress.
>Gold/Silver/Crystal
Where to go next, introduces a day/night cycle and is the only generation (not including their remakes in GenIV) that allow you to hop the fence like a mexican and cross the border to the previous region, leading it to be one of the largest generations. Crystal has most pokemon but curiously only excludes the Ampharos line, which is perhaps one of the most useful early game pokemon. All three games allow you to catch all three legendary hamsters plus both Lugia and Ho-Oh. These also allow trading between RBY, but not forwards to RSE.
>Ruby/Emerald/Sapphire
First game to have colour gradients, though the game drops the day/night cycle. Was originally named Pokemon Advanced. Themes of land and sea are plentiful, but I suspect you'll be spending much more time at sea in these games than in any previous ones. A decent challenge if you pick a fire starter due to the sheer number of water and rock types, but unlike the previous games there is a lot more thought put into world building, and the types of pokemon available are generally tied to the themes of their surroundings. Probably the most challenging games, but also the first to have a solid story that roadblocks locations based on sometimes obscure actions that need to be done first. Emerald changes some of the story beats and allows you to catch both of the mascot legendaries, plus has extra islands in the post-game with additional gyms and the most satisfying Battle Frontier in the series (fight me).
>Fire Red/Leaf Green
Straight remakes on the originals with the exception of having GBA graphics and slightly changing the available pokemon exclusives. In the post-game there are some additional "Sevii Islands" which were later added in Pokemon Emerald. For the sake of playability, these may be preferred over the originals due to the addition of running.
>Diamond/Platinum/Pearl
The Sinnoh Region in Diamond and Platinum are somewhat similar to RSE in that you are best friends with your rival, and story beats follow a similar go-here-do-this progression, but with far greater environmental changes including the first open-air snow storm, swamp and foggy areas, all of which are fun for the first 30 seconds. While RSE and FRLG allowed limited trading past a certain point after completing the post-game, DPP allow you to port pokemon over to these games from the GBA games with a short minigame after beating the Elite Four for the first time. Platinum is objectively the best game in this set of games due to an even greater attention to detail regarding weather and possibly the darkest moment in all of Pokemon history seeing Cyrus get mega-shanked in front of you. It also has the most refined version of the Underground should you have anyone else to play with, and if not, then it still has an unlimited supply of fossils, shards and evolution stones if you need them. Platinum also has more pokemon available from previous games in order to fill out gaps in typing.
>Heart Gold/Soul Silver
Beloved remakes of Gold and Silver with the story additions from Crystal, one particular thing that makes a surprising comeback is the ability to have your lead Pokemon follow you similarly to in Yellow, though it can be any Pokemon at all. Previously to the GB virtual consoles for the 3ds the only way to get pokemon from Kanto to the latest games was to port from the GBA to this to Black 2/White 2 and then through Poketransporter.
23ad69 No.15427613
>Black/White/Black 2/White 2
Very linear. While in most games you are given a large section of branching areas to choose from where the levels of opponents are about equal in order to allow for the player to either catch up or ramp up to greater strength, both Black/White and Black 2/White 2 have no areas like this. That being said, Black 2/White 2 have more optional areas and a large train system. Black 2/White 2 also have a greater variance of Pokemon available in the region. These games have a great theme of Tradition/Progress as well as different seasons each week or so of real world time. DPP may have been the first generation to take Legendary pokemon for granted, but BWB2W2 takes the number and starts sprinting with it.
>X and Y
The first 3D games, with Pokebank and Poketransporter, it is possible to port over games from Black 2/White 2 as soon as you get your pokedex. Taking the basic map from Black and White, but including the central area instead of omitting it, the Kalos region is ostensibly based on France. Another world-ending plot similar to RSE/DPP/BWB2W2, the player is prevented from progressing until they have followed several story beats including visiting cafes, but does avoid backtracking. The Pokemon available in Kalos are largely inconsequential, but it does implement the Fairy type and Mega Evolutions. Fairy type was needed for competitive balancing, but as a matter of course it somewhat disrupts the game, with very few of the moves you would be using at that point of the game being particularly effective against them. Has a lacking post-game and very easy overall due to the return of the EXPALL but simply giving all Pokemon in the party half-XP based on what the lead Pokemon recieved.
>Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
A revisit of Ruby and Sapphire, obviously. Follows the originals pretty much beat-for-beat but with different ash-gathering mechanics, some changes to dialogue (Tink Tink instead of Huff Puff from the glassblower?) and, for some reason, transitions between towns and the overworld that were not there in the originals. Your rival for some obscure reason has a tendency to offer to teleport you to the next story beat instead of allowing you to make your own way there. The story has an additional chapter based around Rayquaza and Deoxys after beating the Elite 4 which takes you to space and explains that the all generations prior to X and Y take place in an alternate universe where the Great War never happened and Mega Evolution was never discovered.
>Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
The tutorial ends after you beat the Elite Four, and you get the feeling that the developers were having a lot more fun with the camera than they should have been as there is a ridiculous amount of cutscenes only seconds away from one another. Introduces Alola Forms and Z-moves. Alola Forms allowed for less powerful pokemon from Kanto to have additional, regional forms that would allow them to compete with newer Pokemon introduced in the power creep of the generations. Instead of Gyms there are Island Trials which essentially take the form of a "puzzle" which can be solved in seconds followed by a battle with the Kahuna which is essentially a Gym Leader. Instead of Gym Badges, you get stamps on your passport with the exact same effects. A more interesting story than the previous games with more character building and interaction, though some of this was lost in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Not the best games, but they do have the largest sandbox in which to battle as it has all the previously available Pokemon mechanics in addition to the new ones introduced in these games, including alternate forms for legendary pokemon such as Zygarde, Reshiram and the Origin Forms of Ruby and Sapphire.
All in all, I've played every available game for my almost-complete living-dex (God damn it Guzzlord), and I'd rate them thusly:
HGSS/GSC
RBY/FRLG
RSE/ORAS
BWB2W2
DPP
XY
23ad69 No.15427643
>>15427611
Correction: The hamster you catch in Gold/Silver corresponds to your starter, I'm not sure about Crystal as it adds specific interest to Suicune.
cf6218 No.15427829
>>15427611
>>15427613
There's no reason to play RBY and GSC at all unless you're playing a polished romhack of said games, just skip straight to FRLG and HGSS, you're not missing anything.
I also suggest skipping XY and ORAS entirely, but if you're adamant on trying those games i suggest you play every other main pokemon game before those two.
SM is way different from USM, but it's still not worth playing because it's ungodly slow, you legitimately cannot explore and get new pokemon as soon as you arrive at a new island because you have to watch 2 cutscenes first: one where the cute blonde loli complains about her unruly cloud pokemon and then has you reaffirm your love for her and another where you're introduced to the not-gym leaders and the soon-to-be elite 4 member, after that you're free to explore, except not really because there's roadblocks everywhere but the main path, USM still pulls this shit on you but at least there's a lot more pokemon in the few bushes you can catch them.
23ad69 No.15428097
>>15427829
As I said, the reason to play them isn't necessarily because they are the best games, nor their story, but simply because they have the largest arsenal when all is said and done.
I'll be honest and say that I've used PKSM/PkHEX to move pokemon between generations when needed, usually back from USUM to XY and ORAS due to Pokebank not allowing you to move pokemon backwards, but only between the same generation and onwards.
That and I used Crystal Clear to pick up Stantler, Girafarig and Misdreavus because it's more bearable than standard Crystal if you ignore the self-inserts which are only in the E4 which I'm happily not touching, and some additional out-of-the way areas.
f21129 No.15428172
>>15427643
That's only true in FR/LG. All 3 hamsters are in GSC.
3b8784 No.15428214
>>15426561
>more content
Which barely justifies the content that was taken out from Emerald. Not to mention Episode Delta is just worse than the rest of the game.
>any objective level
If we are going to start memeing with objectivity, we also need to take into account the fact that gen 1 was made in 1996 for the fucking Game Boy.
>buggy as shit
Half of the bugs only happen during very specific circumstances, so unless you go out of your way to test them, it won't be any buggier than, say, Final Fantasy 6
>>15427611
>basic flow and gameplay loops
You can learn those in any of the other games.
c600f9 No.15428241
>>15427613
The EXP share wasn't the problem I even did another play though with it turned off awhile ago and I was still drastically overleveled with a full party with zero grinding, everything in XY is underleveled it's like they planed for the difficulty settings BW2 had, made easy mode first then just gave up and made that the default.
1ced51 No.15428294
>>15426561
XY deserves EVERYTHING it gets. Megas permanently cheapened the franchise and the transparent charizard fanservice and pandering to gen1 purists still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ORAS are WORSE than RSE because of the free handout syndrome, using the XY exp curve in a game curved around RSE xp rewards and of course xp all. The games are literally the easiest in the franchise, even easier than XY. They hand you a free fucking Lati@s in the middle of the story, how could the game be any easier? The only thing they could have done to make it even more braindead would have been to give groudon/kyogre/rayquaza modern box legend catchrates.
BW2 catches hate for being linear but linearity isn't that big of a deal honestly, gen 2's not linear but it faces a pretty significant level curving problem where one of the areas you go through is just going to be a complete faceroll, then you get to the E4 and don't see significantly higher levels than that as you roll through Kanto until you meet Red. Linearity is one of the easiest ways for them to fix that problem, though they also could have had level scaling in them upon receiving one of the badges to allow for a higher level E4 and as such Kanto. The biggest sin of HGSS, which was still the best overall pairing in the franchise, was not doing something to fix this or at least giving Kanto gyms better teams, modern hold items, ect to make them feel like a real postgame challenge.
>>15427365
Steel was a busted type in gen 2/3/4 (especially in 2/3 back when fighting really lacked good moves and STAB users to the point that focus punch Tyranitar was one of the most common fighting move users you'd see) and dark type moves were generally weak in those games aside from pursuit, it absolutely needed a nerf. Steel is still a great defensive typing and has more offensive utility than it used to since XY. Honestly the only major things I'd add to the type chart at this point are removing a weakness from Ice and adding another fairy resistant type.
9a66c1 No.15428300
>>15427513
They are ok to give you an idea how things tend to work, but relying on them to build certain movesets and teams is a mistake. If Fullderp taught me anything, you can easily beat smogonfags if you are at least a bit creative.
See: 8/v/ fullderp vs. 4cuck fullderp
6ba344 No.15428302
>>15428294
>pandering to gen1 purists still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
That's probably just your shit taste, Gen 1 is the best faggot.
3dfcb1 No.15428304
>>15428300
Do you have some resources to share on the subject ?
9a66c1 No.15428319
>>15428294
Megas where a mistake, and I don't care for Z-moves either. They should of just added additonal evolutions
>>15428302
>gen 1 was great
Video related.
It was ok at best, gen 2 is what really fixed the game though and made it more balanced (although still flawed, which gen 3 fixes even further).
>>15428304
Not on me at the moment, just do some research anon.
9a66c1 No.15428325
f189c7 No.15428328
>>15428325
I was about to post these, this tool in particular is one I use a lot
https://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage
3dfcb1 No.15428330
9a66c1 No.15428334
>>15428319
Fucked that one up, can't seem to find the video.
9a66c1 No.15428348
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15428330
Also, avoid Bulbapedia. Filled with pedos and SJWs. Video related.
Would use something other than jewtube but don't recall the site. Starts with "in".
57dfe6 No.15428364
>>15428300
> 8/v/ fullderp vs. 4cuck fullderp
*4cuck showderp
>>15428334
>Also, avoid Bulbapedia. Filled with pedos and SJWs.
but is the information wrong?
6b7d6d No.15428365
>>15428294
>pandering to gen1 purists
>with mega forms of gen 1 mons
I can't imagine anyone who thinks gen 1 was the best liking megas. I sure as fuck don't.
1ced51 No.15428373
>>15428365
Mewtwo and Charizard were the two most popular gen 1 pokemon among the most casual segment of the fanbase and they gave both of them two megas. It's clear who they were going after with that.
f189c7 No.15428388
>>15428348
reminder that pokemonshowdown has the word "pedo" censored
you can say plenty of words like fuck, shit, and sex but not "pedo", really makes me think
>>15428364
here's another example of fullderp superiority
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-687551587
3dfcb1 No.15428395
>>15428364
>>15428388
Which one is 8chan? Also :
>OU
It seems they use pokemons from other tiers as well.
57dfe6 No.15428403
>>15428388
clearly they're sick of you misspelling "paedo" :^)
f189c7 No.15428406
>>15428395
the anus king's team
09dcf4 No.15428422
>>15428403
Archeops is a good pokemon.
90638d No.15428449
>>15428364
>webm
Shit like this is why I love those fucking threads. Keep doing god's work lads.
0b2d15 No.15428505
>>15396579
Flygon, easily.
7fd5d2 No.15428608
>>15428348
Bulbapedia is pretty good for walkthroughs and finding specific items and tms, and more importantly Its better organized than Serebii
f73912 No.15428616
>>15428348
>>15428608
Serebii's information is usually more accurate, but its layout isn't very good. BulbaPedo being a wiki has a better layout and is easier to navigate. (A userscript for Serebii would probably be sufficient.)
7da782 No.15428896
>>15428294
>and the transparent charizard fanservice and pandering to gen1 purists still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Nostalgia pandering can be annoying in many game franchises but people need to accept that Gen 1 is the identity of the entire franchise. It's where everything harkens back to. It's the same thing with Mario and why everything references Super Mario Bros 1. Gen 1 will never not be referenced because that is Pokemon itself. People don't seem to realize this that the Gen 1 pandering isn't just nostalgia.
>>15428348
>>15428349
>>15428608
>>15428616
A shame about Bulbapedia, they are a good resource but run by faggots.
a97fe1 No.15428925
Is it still easy to find online battles in SM/USUM? Also, do people actually play with interesting teams or do people just use the generic meta teams?
f189c7 No.15428946
>>15428925
I've only played unranked but yes it's easy, and no one's using copypasted teams like on smogon, but you'll still see plenty of "meta" mons running around
I'd say it's about 75% meta 25% not
a97fe1 No.15428957
>>15428946
So if I’ve never battled online would you have any tips so that I actually have a decent time playing against people? I feel like if I took it online at the moment I’d just get destroyed and not learn anything. Perhaps is there a well rounded team recommended for beginners to get a feel for online?
7cb4d1 No.15428958
>>15422347
The TCG seems so corrupt now at the tier 2 level. Lots of cheating and accusations abound, but no organizers or people from the top will talk about it and just ban people from online discussion groups.
a97fe1 No.15428970
>>15428958
My friends actually went to a state competition for Pokémon. One of them was pretty new to the scene and got knocked out right off the bat. Other friend is pretty well versed in the TCG and asked her what happened and I guess the guy was using his card incorrectly and making up things it could do. It’s weird to think people would cheat at TCG’s at official competitions and get away with it.
f189c7 No.15428985
>>15428957
One way to get a feel for what it's like is to play in the battle facilities offered by the games, such as battle tree in sun and moon
it's not a perfect facsimile but a good place to start
you want to make sure you're either breeding Pokémon properly or using hyper training to optimize your pokémon's stats
a97fe1 No.15428993
>>15428985
Gotcha, haven’t really touched the battle tree so I’ll give that a go. Thanks
7cb4d1 No.15429022
>>15428970
> It’s weird to think people would cheat at TCG
It's all a very strange and complicated thing. So many of the top players in the game are friends with each other and network with judges and organizers. It's all out in the open on normalfag social media outlets. When you go to these events you'll hear stories from people, but when those stories pop up online in Pokemon TCG groups they usually just get deleted by mods who are the exact same organizers, judges, and players who run or attend those events.
Unless of course they need to sacrifice someone to make the system look legit -even if he didn't do anything which is pic related to my previous post.
9240ad No.15429064
>>15428958
I can tell you as someone who used to goto a lot of tournaments (Not the US) that intentional draws are cancer, N was cancer and cheaters surged into the game from the BW era. The system fucked me over royally when I started doing better at events, left me quite bitter about the whole thing.
f21129 No.15429197
>>15428616
>Serebii's information is usually more accurate, but its layout isn't very good.
That's an understatement if I've ever seen one. It's borderline unnavigable to the point where you're better off using an outside search engine to locate the pages you want, since the search function on serebii itself hasn't worked in years and might never have in the first place. The general layout stinks, too.
Joe likes to think he's a webdev oldfag with a "function before fashion" website, but in reality he has a nonfunctional and visually offensive website that luckily(?) happens to have the most accurate and up-to-date information out of all available sources.
Pokemondb is a functional alternative to bulbapedia, but there's no trivia at the bottom and some of the information is in need of clarification. The whole thing reads more like a simple datadump and is missing the human element to pick out the things that, while technically in the data, aren't actually true.
1ced51 No.15429229
>>15428958
It's not just low levels friendo, remember a few years back when wailord got robbed of the championship by that slowplay toad faggot?
also anyone interested in tcg history, this blog is pretty cool for it
https://jklaczpokemon.wordpress.com
I completely 100% disagree with his odd reminiscing around neo era though, the game was absolute dogshit for the entirety of gen 2 and was really only actually decent in gen 3 era. First 3 sets of base were pretty fun and late XY era wasn't bad. SM era is shaping up to be absolute fucking trash but still not as bad as rocket-neo.
48383a No.15429247
>>15427829
Why is Dawn so fuckable?
3dfcb1 No.15429266
God damn what a mess this breeding shit it. I need a garchomp with stealth rock and I can't get that in XY so I have to go through the entire ORAS capture a shitload of them in order to get the perfect IVs and then move tutor stealth rock. I also need Ice punch on a Swampert and I can't get it in XY so I need to go through ORAS, find a pokemon compatible with Swampert that I can farm with the dex nav for IV purposes then I can finally fucking get my Swampert.
It feels like I've been collecting pokemon in XY for no reason.
52c91a No.15429496
How do you guys feel about Cloud White 1?
I been out of pokemon for nearly a decade. Decided to go back and play Cloud White after looking up GBA games to play.
It's so freaking hard to capture pokemons it's kinda frustrating, but having more pokemons and much more extra content makes the whole thing so much better.
Also, do you consider RetroArch a good option for emulating DS pokemon games? I only have a linux computer.
7cb4d1 No.15429554
>>15429229
>SM era is shaping up to be absolute fucking trash
These fucking GX Pokemon and their power creep?
cf6218 No.15429711
>>15429496
Desmune is available for linux.
1950ce No.15430083
>>15429247
Go away, Cynthia.
1ced51 No.15430118
>>15429554
In 2016 the 'magic number' was 170 for most EX and 180 for the extra bulky ones. A few mega decks like Gardevoir would be in the 200+ range but you needed a spirit link, aka 4 extra cards in your deck, just to evolve your megas without ending your turn.
In 2018 the 'magic number' is 190 for basic GX and 210 for stage 1 GX. Zoroark is hitting 120 damage for DCE on turn 2 probably 7 games out of 10. Any stage 1 that can't keep pace with that damage curve is worthless. Really the only stage 1 attackers that see play other than Zoroark are Garbodor, Golisopod, Lycanrock Night, and Weavile. All of them see play alongside either Zoroark or Buzzwole and that makes up all of the tier 1 and higher decks.
Below that, Rayquaza and Malamar/Psychic decks are 'viable' but probably won't get more than 4-5% metashare each. Looking down the line, the thundercat's card is stupid good but if you showed me Rayquaza 12 months ago I would have told you that you were a madman and that card would break the game. Now it's very much an "also ran" deck archetype. Zoroark took a pretty big hit when it lost puzzles of time but the fact that standard also lost a lot of staple consistency support will hurt most things in the format more than Zoroark. Buzzwole lost a lot but it does have a chance to take advantage of Zoroark losing Brigette which makes the start a lot more fragile.
The core of the game right now comes down to the first 1-3 turns. If Zoroark gets average or better hands in those situations literally no other style of deck will win, Zoroark is just too consistent and sets itself up for success so well. Buzzwole is a super aggressive deck that can win if it goes off in those turns but if you don't get a major board position lead in your first 3 turns as Buzzwole honestly I think you just end up losing to Zoroark, the deck you're supposed to counter.
Expanded isn't much better either. Zoroark bent that format over a barrel for most of the season too, puzzle of time, ghetsis (finally, idk why they allowed that degenerate shit for so long) and hex maniac getting banned will probably make the format less obnoxious this year though, we'll see.
48383a No.15430124
>>15430083
Come on anon, you can't deny she's asking for it.
1950ce No.15430181
>>15427829
>that pic
>reaffirm your love for her
Is Lillie basically gay for MC if you play with a girl despite little changes to dialgoue?
c600f9 No.15430732
>>15430083
Cynthia and dawn are old news, Cynthia and Lusamine are the new hotness.
1950ce No.15431138
>>15430732
Only a cuck would ever want another man's woman that would never truly be satisfied by her by virtue of liking dicks.
effad5 No.15432310
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
New lets go trailer.
https://www.serebii.net/news/2018/10-September-2018.shtml
So whats probably the last gimmick of Lets go looks like a meme.
cf6218 No.15432331
>>15432310
>more wagglan
J U S T
At least the loli is cute, kind of looks like a younger GO trainer though.
1950ce No.15432338
>>15432331
Holy fuck, the porn and general lewd fanart of the GO female trainers is benis dehydration..
0335a9 No.15432357
>>15432338
>Series with over 700+ attractive monsters
>LOL NAH, all about dat one-off NPC nobody cares about :^)
6b7d6d No.15432374
6a4721 No.15432418
>>15432331
Nothing wrong with having younger/loli trainers.
cf6218 No.15432614
>>15432338
Indeed, its female trainer is probably the only saving grace of GO.
>>15432357
>>>/oven/
>>15432418
I meant that they could have went with an original design instead of lolifying the GO trainer.
1950ce No.15432639
>>15432357
Shut the fuck up.
c3c124 No.15432689
>>15430732
Lusamine is great, I want to fuck her hard and then fuck her daughter with her.
It will be like starting a second family, but with two wives instead of one.
>>15431138
Screw you, oyakodon is great.
>>15432614
I like the shorts and hips, very nice.
7da782 No.15433659
>>15432331
>>15432614
GO trainers design are great, though terrible for Summer.
d99633 No.15433669
can we have a new thread instead of this porn-infested crap?
8cb832 No.15433697
c68141 No.15433712
>>15432331
>>15432614
>slender girls with big tits sweating
cf6218 No.15433802
>>15433697
Back to >>>/cuckchan/ boy.
>>15433669
How many bottles of soylent did you drink before making this post? Cacao is your favorite flavor because it's black, right? Did you ask your wife's boyfriend to open them for you or did you buy that bottle opener already?
>>15433712
Aren't they great? Imagine licking the sweat of their bodies.
8e3510 No.15433827
>>15433802
stop projecting, nintoddler
e418b6 No.15433895
>>15398617
Shit dude Furret is my fucking nigga for life. Doing a solo run with him in Soul Silver was the best and most challenging Pokemon experience I've ever had in my life and I don't know if it'll ever be topped. Especially Red, managing to survive long enough turns to get off enough X Attacks to ascend to Red's level was an absolute trip.
1950ce No.15434045
>>15432689
>Oyakodon
The guy didn't fuck some other mother, he impregnated his sister and then their daughter fucked him. And yes, Imouto Collection is an absolute treasure.
>>15433802
Son of a bitch, I fucking hate ponytails, but these semen demons look too perfect because of them.
6b7d6d No.15437851
>>15432310
At least the graphics are decent.
0335a9 No.15437860
>>15433895
Furret is Bui's favorite Pokemon
000000 No.15437874
>>15396579
Probably Dragonite. He's not my #1 Pokemon, but a Pokemon of reasonable size I can fly on would be incredibly useful for traveling.
ca7b1c No.15437951
I have only played Sapphire and Pearl, both around the time they were released, but I'm really itching for a pokemon game right now. Any suggestions? I'll also take fan games and rom hacks.
6b7d6d No.15437969
Are there any romhacks, besides VoltWhite2/BlazeBlack2, that contain all pokemon up until that gen?
cf6218 No.15437983
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>>15437951
If you liked those games do yourself a favor and play Platinum, otherwise go for BW1 or HGSS.
0335a9 No.15437993
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>>15437951
I know Crystal is generally considered the top tier for Gen 2/classic games and has a ton of romhacks for it
3a7de2 No.15442278
Who's the fucking retard that restricted every dungeon to three team members when the maximum party size is four.
3a7de2 No.15442289
>>15428388
Yeah, it really makes me think you're a fucking retard.
3a7de2 No.15442325
57a81a No.15444237
>>15428214
>Which barely justifies the content that was taken out from Emerald.
I agree, good thing I wasn't comparing it to emerald, I was comparing it to the original RS.
>we also need to take into account the fact that gen 1 was made in 1996 for the fucking Game Boy.
And? A wooden club from fucking 10,000 BC doesn't get slack for being old in terms of it's effectiveness as a weapon compared to a steel mace from the middle ages, why should the same be true of games?
>>15428294
>XY deserves EVERYTHING it gets. Megas permanently cheapened the franchise and the transparent charizard fanservice and pandering to gen1 purists still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ORAS are WORSE than RSE because of the free handout syndrome, using the XY exp curve in a game curved around RSE xp rewards and of course xp all. The games are literally the easiest in the franchise, even easier than XY. They hand you a free fucking Lati@s in the middle of the story, how could the game be any easier? The
I can't say I agree at all. Mega's certainly have gameplay balance issues but I don't think shitting on it just because of genwunner pandering is fair. Likewise, the free handout shit is only an actual issue if you use them. In terms of the level curve, I didn't feel the leveling was any singifcantly easier then in the original games.
You are all ignoring all the shit ORAS added over the original RS that's good. More pokemon and better visuals, obviously, but the quality of life changes such as the physical special spiit, reusable TM's, the dexnav, etc. All that stuff vastly outweighs the few iffy stuff it does.
Not saying it's better then emerald but it's certainly not god damn worse then the origianl RS.
>>15428319
I don't mind the idea of megas, I just think their execution is bad, wheras I think Z-moves and alolan forms are fundamentally a stupid idea
57dfe6 No.15444286
>>15444237
>alolan forms are fundamentally a stupid idea
why?
4dae42 No.15444288
>>15444237
>alolan forms are fundamentally a stupid idea
Why???
57a81a No.15444310
>>15444288
>>15444286
In summary
>It makes zero sense that only alola has these exclusive forms vs every region having regional varients
>It makes zero sense that the forms are entire changes in type and body morphology when regional variations of other pokemon in the past has been more limited
>It makes zero sense what the types changed to even if we accept that, such as Sandshrew e or vulpix evolving to live in the snow rather then just settling into toher places on the islands they are more acclimated to that would be less of an extreme change
The way to fix them would be to either
A: Stop bullshitting with the "alola" part and have them just admit that they wanted alternate type varients of existing pokemon, and instead come up with a justification for it that makes sense, like some sort of radiation that mutates pokemon
or
B: give each region their own varients which are more subtle, like pic related. Plain would be Jhoto, Spotted could be hoenn, mountain could be sinnoh, forrest could be Kanto, Stripes could be Kalos, etc
57a81a No.15444314
>>15444288
>>15444310
>>15444286
Oh also, half the time they are just blatently improved versions of the original mons in terms of competitive utility, which just fucks people over who want to use the originals. If it was intended to replace megas as a way to help mons that need buffs they should have just fucking buffed them or given them a normal evolution, or a mega if a normal evolution wouldn't have worked.
It's also just clearly intended to be a gimmick for a single generation. I want permanent additions and new features for the franchise as a whole. Megas would have been fine as that.
2d1bfb No.15444341
>>15444237
>You are all ignoring all the shit ORAS added over the original RS that's good. More pokemon and better visuals, obviously, but the quality of life changes such as the physical special spiit, reusable TM's, the dexnav, etc. All that stuff vastly outweighs the few iffy stuff it does.
You got that exactly wrong. The "iffy stuff" is the core gameplay, while the things you mention are fluff. Physical special split I will give you (though it was added in D/P), but all the other stuff is way less important than the core gameplay. It's like Morrowind, where the fluff is of great quality, but the actual game part - stats, skills and combat - sucks.
>Likewise, the free handout shit is only an actual issue if you use them.
It's not my job to fix the devs' mistakes. They need to make their games so that the amount of items you can get is balanced by the game's difficulty.
265596 No.15444355
>>15444310
It's annoying because before there were so many Pokemon, I'd have said they could have done something aesthetical like that or minor variants.
Like you have 5 different heads, arms, legs, tails, (etc) with all slight variations. Something to keep tempting you to use something you like the look of, rather than what's tactically best. If it's gonna be a casual RPG- let players have more fun with what they use. So your Pikachu looks different from everyone else's.
Even if legendaries and the featureless Pokemon didn't have this, you'd still have around 500 Pokemon that might need a new texture or a new model with a new texture on top of that to boot.
Even if we just keep alternate-type region forms as something they did for the remake games from now on, it won't fix the core issue of too many Pokes, and wide but shallow tactics for combat.
57dfe6 No.15444358
>>15444310
>>It makes zero sense that only alola has these exclusive forms vs every region having regional varients
They didn't consider it until gen 7. Maybe there will be retcons in later remakes.
>>It makes zero sense that the forms are entire changes in type and body morphology when regional variations of other pokemon in the past has been more limited
Drastic changes to the bodyshape make perfect sense, particularly for island forms. The type changes are probably there to make the forms stand out more.
>>It makes zero sense what the types changed to even if we accept that, such as Sandshrew e or vulpix evolving to live in the snow rather then just settling into toher places on the islands they are more acclimated to that would be less of an extreme change
Again, type changes stand out more.
>A: Stop bullshitting with the "alola" part and have them just admit that they wanted alternate type varients of existing pokemon, and instead come up with a justification for it that makes sense, like some sort of radiation that mutates pokemon
They're called alola because that's were these particular forms debuted. Wait for retcons in later games.
>B: give each region their own varients which are more subtle, like pic related. Plain would be Jhoto, Spotted could be hoenn, mountain could be sinnoh, forrest could be Kanto, Stripes could be Kalos, etc
Arbok was supposed to have something like that according to the pokedex. But current year gamefreak probably doesn't care about such trivial changes, hence why no new gender differences in gen 7.
>>15444314
>Oh also, half the time they are just blatently improved versions of the original mons in terms of competitive utility, which just fucks people over who want to use the originals.
>playing RNG games competitively
also, buffing existing monsters doesn't qualify as "shiny new things".
>>15444314
>It's also just clearly intended to be a gimmick for a single generation.
That applies to mega pokemon as well.
>I want permanent additions and new features for the franchise as a whole.
probably not gonna happen anytime soon.
1fcd05 No.15444360
>>15444310
Considering they straight up pulled a Darwin's Finches mon, it's probably because of hawaii = islands = galapagos = muh evolutionary adaptations. Also gens 1-4 are all set in Japan so you'd only be talking about why kalos/unova don't have wildly differing same-species mons.
>>15444314
>Oh also, half the time they are just blatently improved versions of the original mons in terms of competitive utility,
It's more like 'now I can use Muk-alola at least instead of the new pollution-based mon that doesn't resemble him at all, Kum'. Not to mention stuff like ninetales is still a good usable drought setter where the only reason ninetales-a gets usage is because of aurora veil, not because the alola is better. In fact Maro-a is the only thing I can think of which is actually usable and also dramatically better than the original. Buffing original mons instead would be nice, but this was clearly a theme decision more than anything else, and whining about GF not balancing shit is pretty moot when you can have both ledian and goddamn spectral thief in the same game.
>>15444341
Re-usable tms, as well as a lot of the new EV modifying methods, have a massive amount of mechanical change potential, which is really obvious when you play the romhacks of ORAS instead of vanilla.
2d1bfb No.15444363
>>15444360
>Re-usable tms, as well as a lot of the new EV modifying methods, have a massive amount of mechanical change potential, which is really obvious when you play the romhacks of ORAS instead of vanilla.
I actually hate reusable TMs. The game is not at all balanced around those. You have a bunch of mons learn Earthquake at levels 50+ or whatever, but there's a TM so what's the point. First 4 gens you found a TM, you knew it was special. And you had to decide where to spend it, fostering attachment to Pokemon, and focus. Great design decision that was destroyed. Though it's useful for competitive battling.
265596 No.15444374
>>15444360
>Re-usable tms, as well as a lot of the new EV modifying methods, have a massive amount of mechanical change potential, which is really obvious when you play the romhacks of ORAS instead of vanilla.
It's like Game Freak are afraid to admit raising a Pokemon is a ballache and modifying your router for fake mystery events to get the party you want is quicker and easier.
We only just got the ability for a proper read on what IVs a Pokemon had, and even the ability to modify them. (Albeit, no way to make 0 IV for speed outside of breeding, or how Stakataka needs very specific IVs for competitive that it'll never win).
Imagine if in a Pokemon post-game we got full blown genetic manipulation, rephrased to be kid friendly of course.
> Modify an incubator/Daycare to adjust the IVs or select what IVs you want to pass down.
> Able to reset EVs for a Pokemon from the start (and recalcs stats there and then- not just at level 100).
> In-Game catalog you can unlock/build to know what Pokemon pass on what moves.
> Talk to a psychologist or hypnotist to make a Pokemon realize its "true" Nature (i.e. rework it to what you want)
> 200 BP for an Ability Capsule? Why not 400 or even 999BP for a Hidden Capsule to get Hidden Abilities?
> Move tutor for egg moves, but should ideally be a little pricey to encourage breeding. Unless you like getting money/BP then you'll go for that!
In other words, you can take any Pokemon you found on your journey and make it "perfect" if you put the time into it.
2d1bfb No.15444383
>>15444374
IVs were a bad idea in the first place, and now they've spent years trying to fix it, to no avail. The "every mon is different" thing could be done much better.
57dfe6 No.15444433
>>15444383
>The "every mon is different" thing could be done much better.
The Hidden Power and Natures do that just fine, don't they?
b24ba5 No.15444472
Daily reminder for you faggots to join PokéOne, the best pkmn MMORPG.
It's fucking great, a lot better than PokeMMO and PRO.
www.poke.one
57dfe6 No.15444478
>>15444472
> the best pkmn MMORPG.
what makes it "the best"?
c7dc4a No.15444504
>>15444383
>IVs
They could just lower RNG for IV with lowering possible combinations.
For example making IVs only with 8 following values: 3 7 11 15 19 23 27 31
Only problems which remains in doing that this is how to transfer pokemons from older gens with minimal effort and amounts of autistic screeching from metafags.
>EVs
They could have limit removed and its limits replaced with max stats which is affected by tweaked IVs and natures. Then make sure they can increase even with level 100.
>Levels
Just leave them be as measurement of power and way to learn new moves.
2d1bfb No.15444560
>>15444433
Meh. Too easily "autismed". Spinda spots were a step in the right direction. Variable weights and heights that actually affect the battle would be another.
b24ba5 No.15444567
>>15444478
Better visuals, 3D models and overworld, Johto and Kanto (you decide where to start) actual MMO mechanics in the form of quests and bounties you can take from officer Jenny, you can re-roll IVs for 10,000 pokedollars, breeding is not a thing so the economy actually matters
And when you fly you literally fly and can see other people using fly too. You manually fly your bird to another city/town and then land.
It just came out a couple months ago and it already blows PokeMMO out of the water. Apparently it's been made by ex-PRO devs who weren't happy the way PRO was heading.
b24ba5 No.15444570
>>15444567
oh and you can team up with up to 2 other players for double battles or triple battles in the wild or against trainers.
Yes you can even fight gym or the E4 with your buddies
265596 No.15444614
>>15444383
>>15444504
With the exception of Staktaka, every Pokemon either needs Max IVs, or 0 (for Trick Room or- god forbid- some kind of Reversal or Counter/Mirror Room strategy)
But, the variations in how Pokemon are built in EVs are whats stopping the competitive scene dying.
True from the outside it's the same 30 mons over and over. But the balance of how much you put in def and sp. def considering what it'll fight, and the leftovers boosting attack, sp. atk or speed is what makes each build and team different. So then you try and guess from how much damage is being taken and dealt what your opponent's stats are, and how to act next.
Which is boring as fuck for a children's RPG, and too much busy work for a real RPG- let alone a "competitive" one.
I've always said a Battle Factory tournament would be fascinating to watch. The company can show off neglected Pokemon and builds and unique tactics can come about. Only a few care about the exercise routine of players in a sport, the majority care about how well the teams will play and long with the heroes and villains of the sport.
If you want a higher skill level, it needs to be better. If you want it for kids, it needs to be simpler and more enjoyable to build a team.
>>15444567
For the official games, it's always surprised me you can't become a true breeder. I.e. you breed 5/6 IV Pokemon and sell them for BP. Likewise you can spend a LOT of BP to buy them- enough so you have to do Battle Facilities for a bit, but about the same or less time as mind-numbingly breeding it yourself.
Of course if the economy was ever player decided, everything outside the 30 "competitive" Pokes would only cost 1 BP and never sell.
c7dc4a No.15444837
>>15444614
>With the exception of Staktaka, every Pokemon either needs Max IVs, or 0 (for Trick Room or- god forbid- some kind of Reversal or Counter/Mirror Room strategy)
It's still too much grind. There are 1.073.741.824 variations for that shit. With suggested changes it lowers to just 262.144 variations.
>But, the variations in how Pokemon are built in EVs are whats stopping the competitive scene dying.
I see. I never cared that much for competitive scene.
>If you want a higher skill level, it needs to be better. If you want it for kids, it needs to be simpler and more enjoyable to build a team.
Fair enough.
f73912 No.15453112
>>15442278
Haven't played it in forever, but the biggest difference I loved in Sky was that new recruits, if the party was full, could go straight to the friend area and be guaranteed to stay in the party instead of potentially being lost in a hard dungeon or monster house.
So my assumption is the game wanted the player to leave room for a recruit or Pokemon that would be joining you. In Sky I frequently have to leave Pokemon behind if anyone needs to tag along for a mission.
000000 No.15453131
>>15437993
The last image has a decent artstyle, even if it's wasted on gay furshit. I'm having trouble looking up the artist name. Does he/she do non-gay shit or am I wasting my time?