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They are linear but it's possible to get lost and fuck yourself over so really it's a bit in the middle, at least for the earlier ones.

DQ >>>>>> FF

>>15370523

So world exploration is fairly limited?

>>15370544

There is a world map that is rather large for the era but keep in mind this is mid to late 1980s. 3 is about on par in terms of size with the first FF world map for the sake of comparison.

In terms of how open it is you go from one are to the next, each having about two or more towns, until you get the boat which is when the game opens up significantly and then you eventually get to the "find every hidden thing" part of the game which opens up the way to the final area. That's really every DQ game pacing in a nutshell except for 7. 7 is pretty much Banjo Kazooie with time travel.

>>15370559

Sounds like it's worth giving a shot. Any one in particular you recommend? I hear 3 is really solid.

>>15370581

3 goes from good to legendary if you can play and enjoy at least the first game for the sake of seeing how far it came. As for the best that stand out on their own I'd say 5 but none of the other games in the series are like it so it might give you a wrong impression. Also, only play the remakes because they cut down on grinding and speed up the menus considerably, at least until the 3DS ones which were fucked up in localization.

>>15370700

>father of all JRPGS as we know them

That would be Wizardry and Ultima. Different countries doesn't change anything.

>>15370710

>Wizardry and Ultima

Those would be the grandfathers

>>15370710

reminder that the west has forsaken wizardry and its spirit and franchise now lives on thanks to the Japanese while WRPGs continue to be dumbed down action games or single player table top style rpgs.

>>15370710

pretty much this >>15370730

>>15370743

>or single player table top style rpgs

I wish. They're dating simulators with no attractive characters and shit combat now thanks to Bioware.

>>15370743

>single player table top style rpgs

What's wrong with being proud of the very thing that led to their creation?

>>15370761

Builders is my favorite one because of personal tastes.

But I wouldn't recommend starting a series on a spin-off that is nothing like the main games.

Has anyone been able to play XI despite it not being translated yet?

>>15370765

You should feel a massive amount of shame for playing them alone

>>15370763

Nonsense, there was plenty of throwback ones like torment tides of the numa numa dance or tranny or prisoners of urethra. They all sucked. Just like the """"classic""""" CRPGs of the 90s

>>15370779

Go make your own thread to bitch in.

>>15370779

I don't consider any of those games tabletop in nature outside of shoved in dice rolls.

>>15370799

It's also the easiest. I remember beating a half translated ROM of the original in like 2004 or so without a guide because as far as I know there's no way for you to permanently fuck yourself over.

>>15370810

>there's no way for you to permanently fuck yourself over.

>therefore it's easy

I'll admit it's not the hardest by far but your argument doesn't make much sense.

>>15370799

Perfect fuck hole you mean

>>15370824

That's not even what I mean. It's easy in that you don't even really have to know what you're doing to beat it and it takes next to no grinding especially if you get lucky with monster recruits. The final boss in particular is a joke even in the original.

>>15370850

I see what you mean. 5 is the more story-focused of them, but I think it does it well, and I don't remember it being too baby tier but it's been a while. Also not needing grinding is a good thing not running from battles isn't grinding unless you fuck around too much or something, and I don't remember any DQ game besides MAYBE some parts of 1 and 2 to really NEED grinding to progress, excluding post-game extra bosses.

>>15370894

6 and 7's original release absolutely required grinding but with 7 it's so easy to get lost looking for shards that you won't even realize it.

>>15370581

Release order. The ambition of each game builds exponentially from one to the other, though in terms of raw ambition and making a fucking huge ass game with tons of content the series peaks at 7, with over 45 actual TOMES of written dialogue in the game. It took them 3 years to translate the game to English for the 3ds version.

8 is the comfiest game ever made, 9 was an interesting experiment 10 is the N E V E R E V E R MMO. 11 looks to return to the comfiness of 8. Can't wait to finally play it.

I'm also beginning my playthrough of the DQ games. I already started with 4 for the DS (though I haven't finished it yet). I plan on playing 5 and 8, since they're the most noteworthy titles, but I don't know where to go from there. Any help? Also, which version of 8 should I play?

>>15371487

I noticed a lot of people are allergic to DQ1. The game can be finished in a sitting.

I like 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8 for the mainline games. DQ2 is unfair and DQ7 is fucking trash. Why the fuck does anybody like this fucking game?

>Also, which version of 8 should I play?

US PS2. It got an overhaul to appeal to western audiences with more advanced battle animations, orchestrated music, and voice acting. I believe the DS version lacks most of these features. Everyone is afraid of the DQ8 symphonic suite music, and I don't get why. Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2 had the symphonic suite music for the battle themes of all of the games, but DQ8 had the original music. Why do they shun this so much?

>>15371509

>DQ8 music

This one's actually kind of interesting:

The PS2 version in Japan had chiptune music which was remastered in orchestral for the rest of the world. The 3DS version has the orchestral in Japan while the rest of the world gets the original chiptune

The official reason the orchestral was sacrificed internationally was to make room for the voice acting by britbong soap opera actors (love it or hate it, it's not without its charm)

Still bullshit; I want my fucking philharmonic and a mod is floating somewhere that restores the orchestra without affecting the VA

>>15371592

So I can't play it in japanese AND have the orchestral soundtrack? Well, fuck

>>15371671

yes you can, learn reading comprehension. The 3DS version, in Japan, has orchestral

>>15371553

>MY DAUGHTERFU

>MY

Ahahahaha. He thinks Kon's brood is actually his. Who do you think knocked Bianca up?

>>15371675

Forgot to mention, on the PS2 since I don't have access to a 3DS. Can Citra run DQ8?

DQ World Map can be weird, it's linear in the sense that there's a path they want you to follow, BUT you can still do some parts out of order, and often times they don't tell you where you're supposed to go. I did that back in Dragon Quest IX when they first turn you loose.

>>15370597

>at least until the 3DS ones which were fucked up in localization.

There's a patched version of the Dragon Quest 8 remake that restores the cut content. No idea about 7.

Don't start with 9, it and 11 are intended for fans of the earlier games and have some fanservice stuff in the form of battling bosses and revisiting areas from previous games.

My "first normal" DQ was 6, it's a pretty good place to start, all the DS remakes of 4-6 are pretty awesome.

>>15370539

also this

>>15371736

>tfw Squeenix decided they'd only release the inferior port in the west because they're appealing to graphics whores

embed related

also PS4 is starved for games, normalfags are eating up stuff they'd normally never bother with because of it

>>15371840

Couldn't tell you–I have a hacked 2ds for 3ds games

it's not too hard to find a .nds of dq8. Try it yourself

>>15371880

>.nds

whoops, .3ds or whatever the generic rom format is before packing a .cia

>>15371869

>>15371736

also I bet Sony played a big role in getting the 3ds version of 11 cancelled in the west, it might sound conspiratorial but after stuff like the fortnite debacle and similar events I wouldn't put it past them. It's not good for optics when your shiny new AAA JRPG is also playable on an almost 8 year old handheld.

>>15371880

>>15371883

.3dsx I think

>>15371897

Top dollar it has more to do with square enix. They barely even advertised the game. There isn't a single commercial for the game. They wanted to bring the series over without spending any money to promote the game. Watch. Dragon Quest XI is going to sell decent numbers and you will start seeing full blown ads everywhere for the next game ad they will start treating it like a cash cow. FUCKING tomb raider got more attention than DRAGON QUEST. I hate Square Enix so fucking much.

>toriyama abominations

none of them

>>15371947

We get it, you vape.

>>15370581

III is good and what got me into the series. Dragon Quest XI was great and its English release is only a few days away.

>>15371315

This is good too if you have the time and drive to do it; that's how I did it.

I loved DQ1 back in the day but never got into 2. I notice a lot of people don't like it and even recommend skipping it. Why's that?

Should I just go straight to 3? And which version of 3? Original NES or SNES or (other)?

>>15372553

2 is the "that one game" for some people. It's incredibly easy to get lost and forget your way. It's way less linear than some of the games. It also has the single hardest final dungeon in the series. Several bosses all with final forms.

which dragon quest has playable lolis?

>>15372553

Play the snes version of both

>>15371869

People are saying the 3ds version is superior but honestly the bonus content isn't that good. It's just some levels from old Dragon Quest games with a few extra story bits that don't really elaborate much more on the story than it already had in the original ending. They didn't bring it over because the switch version is going to be a port of the 3ds version. It's obviously going to come west like thaglt, if at all. Because Square Enix sucks at getting the west interested in the series. Enix had an excuse back in the day. Square Enix has no excuse. They are just a trash company.

>>15372579

i know youre just that masquerading nigger but you have a point. doesnt that mean all of them?

>>15371869

I'm talking more about the menus than the content. For whatever reason every game we've gotten since 8, minus the DS remakes, has god awful menu lag that isn't present in the Japanese version. 7 in particular is so bad that it ends up adding hours of time to a speedrun: 18ish hours versus nearly 24.

>>15371315

7 is probably the most epic JRPG ever.

Since i wont start a new thread, i just started up ff10 on vita and holy shit what is this? Mind you, ive played 1-3 so its pretty different but ive played my fair share of jrpgs but to me, this is just unbearable. Is ff10 utter shit or do i go on?

>>15373012

Unless you like laughing at awful dialogue, no. It's really not worth it.

>>15373016

I usually would go out of my way to find more input but this game looks and feels retarded. Especially after recently finishing some falcom games. Any recommend ff games? Or just go to dq?

>>15373028

Play the SNES ones and then give up on the series.

>>15373040

Thanks anon, probably what ill end up doing. Never been a fan of the series in the first place just thought id try them out

>>15372703

> because the switch version is going to be a port of the 3ds version.

source? 3ds version uses both screens for classic graphics and 3d graphics simultaneously, so I don't think it's possible for Switch to be the 3ds version

>>15373037

Jesus fucking Christ you are trying really hard to fit in.

>>15373138

Hes not completely wrong though. WRPGs are trash. And JRPGs have been going down the same route of mediocrity.

>>15373090

It doesn't. After the first 30 minutes or so, you have to decide which mode (2D or 3D) you want to use. Later on you can change it in the church.

But I think, they said in a recent interview that porting is harder than expected, since the version of the engine they use is not compatible with the Switch and the hardware is too weak and needs lot of tweaking to get the game running. Which means more or less they currently trying to port the PS4 version.

>>15373181

He didn't need to throw a tantrum though.

I just started them myself. I've beaten 1 and am currently playing through 2. The jump between the two games is wild. And the continuity between the two surprised me especially when I found out you could go back to the first continent when you get the boat. Growing up I always thought DQ was the kid version of FF, but boy I was wrong.

Dragon Warrior and Dragon Quest IV are some of the best games I've ever played and I don't even like JRPGs

>>15373090

My only source is my vivid imagination unfortunately. It's the only justifiable reason for keeping the 3ds version overseas. Nintendo has been very good to Dragon Quest. I am sure they want the best possible version for their new console hence why the port is taking so long. I imagine it will be a mixture kg the handheld version and the ps4 version.

>>15373266

Dragon Quest is a weird series in that it looks like kiddy shit at first glance but even the NES games aren't shy of outright depicting death while Final Fantasy was still sticking too calling everything doom instead up until 7. The only real censorship in that regard was the crosses and stuff.

Are the translations to all of these fucked? Seems like most of them have the bullshit "medieval" speak.

>>15373838

Only the first one did that, AND it was awesome. The worst is how hamfisted the accents are, but it never really bothered me much. Gave each town more flavor. The locals should be harder to understand in different areas. Makes it feel more like an adventure.

>>15373838

NES 1 and 2 has all the thees and thous, NES 3 and 4 as well as GBC 1,2,3 and PS1 7 are mostly literal with censorship here and there. Everything since is either puns, accents or both to varying degrees with 4 and 5 DS being probably the worst.

>>15373735

>87 hours in a row

>Fat

Looks like we'll have another gaming controvertsy in a few months once they blame gaming for causing neets to come into being too.

>>15373863

– once he inevitably dies in his chair I mean

God Mode;

Dragon Quest III snes version.

Dragon Quest VI snes version.

Dragon Quest VIII ps2 version.

Good Mode;

Dragon Quest VII ps2 version.

Dragon Quest II nes/snes version. (Its debatable)

Okay Mode;

Everything else.

I know alot of anons and fan of the series love DQV, but they usually have fucking daddy/family issues, its a good game I just subjectively didn't like it too much. The rest of the series main and off shoots are good as well, just nothing special.

>>15374074

I have only played the snes/nes versions. Does it matter? just play one. Only hand helds I played were DQ Monsters

>>15374074

It's just a downport of the SNES release with an extra dungeon you'll never get to see without either hacking the game or grinding for 100 hours.

>>15374202

It's because they did accents in the DQ8 dub which went down pretty well.

>>15370512

No. Unless you like that sort of thing, then you're already too far gone for reason.

>>15374262

Mind the gap

>>15374262

>DQ2

>Huge open world and a ton of shit to explore

>5/10

>DQ4

>First linear DQ, less content than DQ2 and 3, game doesn't introduce anything new

>10/10

Nigger, what?

>>15374340

I’ve been playing DQ4 on mobile and I feel like I’m missing something.

>get through all the chapter intros

>finally play the MC and meander around getting all the party members.

>new task centers around fighting yet another version of Balzack in a different castle.

>he seems to strong, so I wander about looking for shit to do.

>find a place where they sell end game gear, sell the ten iron broadswords I inherited from the merchant character to afford them for the MC, awkwardly weighting all the power towards him and ham stringing natural progression.

I assume there’s something in the world I’m missing and I’m not just supposed to grind my face off in between barely connected boss fights. DQ3 was open, but I felt you unlock the boat at a more appropriate time and the world feels more alive with stuff to do in between objectives.

>>15374510

There isn't actually. Balzack is just that big of a brick wall. You could go to the elf village and buy the falcon knife earrings for Alena to cheese the fight as well but aside from going to places the game doesn't really expect for you to be at you just have to bash your head against him until you finally win.

>>15374262

Ayy lmao

>>15374539

That’s a shame… I think the charm of 4 is a little lost on me. It’s not to say grinding wasn’t an aspect in 3, but it felt less invasive somehow.

>>15374539

I should probably also point out the reason 4 feels so weird in terms of pacing is because the game forces you into the same level bracket 4 times in a row over the span of multiple different continents, meaning that by the time you actually start the meat of the game you've seen half of the world map and it doesn't take but an hour or two to get the boat after which you have a grand total of like three areas to explore that you haven't already seen and only one of which you won't die immediately getting near. The game just feels rushed as all hell and I don't think they got to implement the chapter idea as well as they originally hoped to. What could've been the Mega Man of JRPGs ended up just being a rehash where you play the first 10 levels 5 times over for no good reason. At least the final boss was great.

Do these games have a tedious amount of trash mobs?

>>15374703

They would if the combat wasn't nearly instantaneous.

>>15374703

You can also get spells and items that suppress encounters below your level.

>>15374074

The SNES version is the definitive version of the game. Until The remake comes out on PS4.

>>15375184

As far as I can tell it's just a port of the phone version which cut out a lot of the SNES extras like the Pachisi tracks.

>>15374003

>I know alot of anons and fan of the series love DQV, but they usually have fucking daddy/family issues

You're sadly not wrong at all.

>suddenly in the mood for DQ

>remember that ROMs are hard to come by

Fuck.

>>15375417

It sucks Nintendo also got every search engine shut down.

>>15374207

Accents, unnecessary expenditure as they were even then, at least work better with spoken dialogue. Trying to flood a script that's text-only with them causes legibility issues for those unfamiliar with how to actually read them (compared to standard English), which is what Square seems so intent on, to the point apparently having to weigh the extra editing costs against even bringing them west to begin with, as if the series can't be parted from it now here.

>>15374202

Don't forget culling the party chat in the DS version because they were already dumping money into accenting and apparently considered ability to converse with party members extraneous.

>>15375417

Try a little harder.

>>15374202

I'll never regret learning japanese just to not deal with bullshit localizations like these

>>15373978

no, you fuck off the board.

Just gonna post this here, quick list of the name changes in DQ IX.

Emma -> Gemma

Kamyu -> Erik

Martina -> Jade

Senya -> Serena

Silvia -> Sylvando

Greig -> Hendrik

Homer -> Jasper

Derukador -> Heliodor

>>15376052

I don't understand why some of those names in the Japanese version wouldn't "fit" with a western release.

>>15375437

>>15375602

>>15375747

I was under the impression that Nintendo destroyed those as well.

>>15370539

this

>>15376083

Try a little harder. There are more than just the three ROM sites that closed out there.

For any one actually looking for a recommendation Dragon Quest 1,2,3 on the SFC are absolutely worth playing, you can see the evolution of the JRPG genera and the trilogy as a whole is really strong with DQ3 being one of the greatest JRPGs ever made.

Fan patches exist for all 3 and they are not hard to play in raw JP if you would prefer.

Said fanpatched roms of 1&2, 3 mega.nz/#!rAs3Fa7K!KvX3LUgZc7zVw2fW7dw3mJsStoJz4CyjDv1XmtxlKlQ

>>15376191

>DQ3 being one of the greatest JRPGs ever made.

Is it bad that I want to get to that game simple so I can see why so much DQ hentai is based on that specific one (with V being a distant second)?

>>15376211

Well if it worked for Corpse Party and The Loud House it'll likely work with this. I at least played V but stopped near the end due to the asinine encounter rate. Also, thank you for the ROMs.

>>15372553

DQ2 was a slog, the world map is insanely massive and once you get the boat you're going to see how that can be a bad thing. The last dungeon was a pain in the dick, too.

>>15376368

The Prince is re balanced a bit in the SFC remake so that he isn't a total potato and merely just somewhat useful. He was so bad in the FC original of 2 that him being drawn as a coffin is a well known japanese meme.

>>15376368

It's not a matter of difficulty, it's fucking tedious to sail to opposite ends of a fuckhuge map over and over again.

>>15376368

>hurrr I'm /sig/ because I like the shittiest Dragon Quest

That's not how it works, tubby.

>>15376052

So it's 6 all over again. At least none of these are puns as far as I can tell.

>>15371840

>Can Citra run DQ8?

Citra's website has a compatibility list:

https://citra-emu.org/game/

DQ8 is ranked Perfect.

>>15375602

>spoonfeeding

>posting links for reddit fags

you should banned tbqh fam

>>15375192

Are you retarded?

>>15376833

But do they have lolis?

Play the SFC versions of 1-6, aside from 4, as it's NES only.

>>15371869

>all the DS remakes of 4-6 are pretty awesome.

>>15370597

>Also, only play the remakes

You fags do know the regular DS remakes have cucked translations right? You do know DQ4 DS has unintelligible accents and cut out the party chat feature, right?

>>15377983

>You fags do know the regular DS remakes have cucked translations right?

At the risk of being (You) accusations, I wasn't aware of that until very recently and at the time of playing the fifth game years ago, I liked the idea of differing dialects and accents in each town. Emphasis on the idea. A few got very annoying to read/decipher very quickly. The DS version of the fourth game, well I avoided that.

Also, IGN's freaking out.

>>15377983

>4 was only remade on DS

>>15377983

>>15378085

There is a fan translation of DQV for the PS2 which is arguably the best version as it has the full orchestral soundtrack, why not just play that?

Actually checking my uploaded stuff iv got the 1.2 version of the fan patch just ready to go.

mega.nz/#!3UtmhaQS!GaehHVV2TJ0uOoClPxpFd_sq09Gz3q79jzPI4jB3p4Q

Iv also got a fan patched version of DQIV for the DS that un cancers the text tho it doesn't have the party conversation stuff unfortunately, i could upload that if people want it.

>>15376822

I tried it out, runs at 90% speed on my machine which is pretty old. It's playable but the slight audio stutter breaks it for me, so I'll just play the PS2

>>15378117

Man teen Bulma is the best

>>15378723

Weird, it wasn't there when I checked this morning. Thanks Anon.

>Denuvo

I knew it was coming but I'm still disappointed.

>>15378723

I live in the middle of nowhere, so I can drive an hour to a store that may not even carry it, or I can get it on Steam and just deal with the Denuvo. I've been wanting this one for a while so I guess I'm gonna bite the bullet.

>>15378784

Or you could wait for the free version to come out, since it's Dragon quest it probably won't take long.

Can you turn voices off in the localized version or are we stuck with "OI BRUV" the whole game?

>>15378723

>Ryzen 7; stuck with 8320E

>GTX 1060; stuck with GTX 950

Son of a bitch.

>>15378723

>those recommended specs

U fucking wot m8

>>15376191

Thread's likely dead but I have to ask this because it's really bugging me. At least, the translation is. Just started the 1 part of 1&2 and the names are way off? Loto? King Dragon? Aren't those supposed to be Erdrick and DragonLord?

>>15379916

I opted to use my brain after posting instead of before. Closest I got to playing the game proper was Dragon Quest Builders. Ergo, it's down to personal preference and autism.

>>15379861

Roto/Loto is the Japanese name for the Hero. Erdrick is the english name for some reason. DQ has been heavily butcherd in the english releases right from the getgo.

>>15380000

It's actually a title given to the hero at the end of DQ3

>>15380000

Attempts to patch a raw rom with the names I want keep ending in failure, so I'll just suck it up with the real names. Gonna make some walkthroughs confusing at first glance.

>>15381922

>Im gonna need a source

He already posted sourceless claims about the Switch version of DQ11, which he later admitted was just stuff he made up.

>>15380300

Should the player have difficulty understanding people from the same town as the player character?

Should the translation add accents to characters who talked normally in the original version?

>I will also defend the accents

So you defend that text should be nearly unreadable and the costs for that should be taken off other legit parts of the game i.e party chat?

>>15370761

friendly reminder that you can play an English translated version of Builders on a PS3 with CFW

>>15384279

I take it you refer to the names being correct in that version? Erdrick being Loto/Roto and whatnot?

>>15384308

not him, I don't remember, I'm pretty sure it's just the vita script pasted into the PS3 version though

I wonder if it would be difficult to make a de-cancer patch for DQXI what with the PC version and all.

>>15378784

There's a third option, which you are of course too fucking stupid to even consider: not supporting them when they fuck you in the ass.

>>15378723

3ds version with translation dumped from pc when

>>15386692

Rude

>>15386525

Real question I think would be whether the cancer is relegated simply to the accenting and name changes, or if Square went the censor route as well.

>>15389006

I thought it was the chinese rom that had that. Wonder if there's anyway someone could make a hack to permanently bring that script forward, but I assume that a rip and edit of the script to be repatched over the default language would still be better.

>>15386525

Probably easy. I still can't believe it's impossible to disable the shitty dub completely.

>>15378723

I was about to buy it until I saw Denuvo. Dodged that bullet.

>DQ11 releases in the US right after Labor Day weekend

Why do they do this?

i have only ever played 9. is it worth picking back up. seemed kinda unfinished

>>15391824

9 doesn't really work well as a stand alone/entry point, its more of a fan service game/celebration of the series up to that point. Better to start with the original trilogy on the SFC, or atleast just play 3.

>>15370710

I have to agree with >>15370730 JRPGs in general are too different from Wizardry and Ultima. Early JRPGs may have copied Wizardry and Ultima, but they weren't the same, and later JRPGs copied early JRPGs.

Speaking of the SFC and such,would anyone know how to use the Cheat Engine on an emulator? I'm willing to grind for levels but I draw the line at gold.

>>15392563

If you're using an emulator, just use the turbo function. If you want to make it even easier, use an infinite HP code combined with turbo.

>>15376833

this is what makes DQ so good.

>>15393009

I found a .cht file but it does nothing. Using SNES9x by the way.

>>15370512

I tried playing VIII, my first dragon quest game, after buying on ebay for my PS2 a few weeks ago. Loved the graphics, style, music and characters. But damn, the game was just so stretched out. I think I'm too impatient / old to play JRPGs now since this is symptomatic of the genre but random battles are like 50%+ of the total game time.

I can't do it. I got up to the Dhoulmagus (sp?) fight, which is supposedly not even halfway through the game, and had to stop. I needed to grind quite a few levels to beat him but I couldn't be bothered. It would be hours of battles which by that point had become so fucking tedious.

Does anyone else experience this? I played Final Fantasy V to completion in one sitting a few months ago on an emulator because it had a 10x fast forward function that made grinding and random encounters in general a total breeze. JRPGs need to have a proper FF function (and not just 2x).

DQXI tomorrow, I'm honestly looking forward to it. I put a pre-order down to get some free shit from the local game shop.

I'll probably still return it though, once I've got a taste. I don't pay full price for games on launch day.

>>15399291

The gaming journos cult have praised it. Which of course they wouldn't do just for a good jrpg. So I checked and found out there's a homo party member. There must be a lot of gay romance shit for them to give it a pass.

>>15389006

Oh, wish I knew about this before I played it a few weeks ago without party chat.

>>15370512

I played DQVIII and it was pretty much the epitome of a bad JRPG.

>braindead combat

>shit character designs

>shit story

>shit world

There wasn't a single redeeming quality.

>>15399609

Gays in Japanese media are usually there for comic relief. I'm not too worried.

I just preordered the PC version even though it has Denuvo because I've been waiting over a decade for a true followup to VIII.

I feel filthy.

>>15404856

>hoping I can tolerate the entire game with this "localization"

i'm probably gonna regret asking this question but how many red flags have you found so far? is it a half decent localization or is it a (((localization)))?

>>15401714

>>15399609

I'm sure they're talking about Sylvia, or whatever his official name is, and while he is a massive faggot he never actually hits on you as far as I'm aware. he pisses on his family's legacy and gets a bunch of his literally prancing faggot manservants to shove his sick dad into a overly flamboyant peacock costume as a joke like 2/3ish ways into the game I can't imagine that's the scene getting them all swooning though.

>>15404856

I gave up on this after the shitty Crash Bandicoot run away from dragon section. Went back to playing Builders.

>>15405030

And not long after that there's a forced racing minigame.

>>15405092

From what I've seen it actually gets a lot better after a certain point but it's so far in that it's hardly a point in the game's favor. Seems like someone was holding a monkey's paw when they wished for another single player focused, high budget, home console mainline Dragon Quest game.

>>15405135

Christ.

bumping again for vols

>>15405478

This game is not worth 80 fucking dollars. Are you a strayan by any chance?

>>15405498

No, even worse

A fucking leaf

How long do SquareEnix games usually take to crack?

>>15404856

Do we have access to the Japanese PC version?

>>15405505

FF15 was actually cracked before the official release but that was because they put out a demo/ The Heroes games are all we can really go by and both of them as far as I know took months because nobody really gives a shit about this series, least of all the PC ports.

>>15405508

The PC version was a worldwide release so probably not.

>>15405526

>The PC version was a worldwide release so probably not.

If it was worldwide the japs also got it right? So we should be able to play it in full japanese text/dub right?

>>15405545

I don't know what you'd have to do to do that but you'd still have to deal with Denuvo I'd imagine.

>>15378723

I guess a pirate's life's for me.

>>15405550

Assuming a cracked version of course

>>15405618

yeah, no point in rewarding Squeenix for being massive faggots like usual

I only ever played DQ back when 1 and 2 came in the same cartridge for the gameboy all those years ago, which are good?

>>15407191

>which are good?

All of them

>>15405535

Do you want a third nuke inside your ass or what?

Does DQ7 ever get less linear? I dropped it like 25 hours in because there was no exploration or side content at all like the other games. I am thinking about trying to get back into it though.

>>15407453

I don't remember it being linear at all. A big portion of the game consists of hunting for tablet fragments after you restore lands in the past.

>>15404856

It's almost certainly completely rewritten with little to no resemblance to the original text.

>>15407463

It's kind of linear in the sense that it isn't nearly as open as a "find shards and open portals" concept would make you think it is. For example there's very few, if any as far as I can remember, islands you can actually do out of order.

>>15407453

It IS linear but you can actually miss some tablets and have to backtrack to find them if you don't explore thoroughly, happened to me a couple times.

>>15409277

It also has probably more ways to permanently screw yourself over than any other game in the series combined.

>>15370544

DQ I and II are linear in that if yo udon't know what the fuck you're suppoed to do or where to go, you'll get assraped by overleveled monsters since you can go everywhere but the final level basically.

The story itself is linear. You get the first macguffin and you find out where you have to go for the next, rinse and repeat until you're at the Dracolord's castle.

9 was much more linear that I remember. Very episodic in that way. You travel to one town and help the people in that place. Then you travel to another town and you help those people. It's a journey from point a to point b, like a road trip, not a sandbox

Is it cracked yet?

>>15409806

Nope.

THIS VOICE ACTING IS HORRENDOUS

>>15409961

Have you gotten to the faggot jester guy yet?

>>15409993

>Square cucked out over fat lesbians finding Koichi Sugiyama problematic

This is the first I've heard of this but I can't be surprised. The guy's older than WW2.

>>15409993

I've only ever played 9, should I just try them from the first?

>>15410013

Play 3 for the snes with a fan translation. It is the best in the series.

>>15410013

Might as well. The earlier games are all pretty short.

>>15409993

> Oh and the soundtrack is rubbish because Square cucked out over fat lesbians finding Koichi Sugiyama problematic and they didn't want him reworking the music so we are stuck with Ps1 midis.

Another cave in? Not even worth a pirate.

>>15410042

>>15410037

Yeah, either 8 ps2 or 3 snes.

It is so sad too see this happen, Ill pirate it, hate beat it and tell any shills to suck a fat cock and that it didn't even improve on 8.

>>15410042

8 3DS also has the butchered soundtrack while Japan got to have it orchestrated. They did the same thing with 7 3DS but at least the sampling in that was better than the PS1 originals. This is too consistent to just be fuckups.

>>15410070

Wait a tic, is this for 8 or 11? I thought 11 got gimped. I'm still trudging along the first Dragon Quest. Trying to get a gold cheat to work but to no avail.

>>15410088

>>15410090

Both 3ds 8/7 version got shit midi music instead of orchestration and messed with a shit load of the translations. Are you doing the chest gil thing in the first castle?

>>15410090

It's the main reason I never got it because the synthesized soundtrack for 8 just sounds like complete ass.

Forgot to mention but 7 on 3DS also has some of the worst menu lag of any game I've ever played, even worse than 9s, to the point where it can take whole seconds before the game reads any inputs and the game can outright crash for no reason when you come from the tablet room. Both of these are western only issues by the way because they surely spent those 3 years we had to wait doing a good job.

>>15410124

I confess, I barely left the first castle. The .cht I found either doesn't work or I can't make heads or tails of. Didn't fare better with Cheat Engine either. Mind you, don't want to breeze through the game, which I hear is pretty short. I just want to mitigate the grind and buy the strongest stuff in each new town right away.

Also, headcanon dictates that the Hero should have a much bigger penny to their name starting out. By the way, playing the 1+2 version for the SNES9x.

>>15410156

The grind is near painless in the SNES version and the game shouldn't take longer than maybe 3 hours assuming you don't get horribly lost.

>>15410156

>>15410165

The nes version if you know what you are doing with the chest glitch is about 7-8 hours and that includes all the grinding. The snes version for the first 1 is much more balanced and easier, should only take you 3-4 hours tops.

>>15410165

>>15410170

For what it's worth, I'll refrain from attempting to cheat in the third game on account of how exulted it is. Moving it to the 3DS for now. God knows how I managed playing with a keyboard as a kid.

>>15410180

Dude, its a single player driven jrpgs series. Do what ever the fuck you want. The game is built and lasted on grinding, a basic story, good music and dbz anime art style.

>>15410188

>dbz anime art style.

That reminds me, anyone ever called out Toriyama on the DQV Hero's son being a dead ringer for Gohan or am I seeing things?

>>15410180

A fast forward button is really all you'll need. Just get to an area where you can come out of a fight mostly unharmed, turn your healer's AI to focus on healing then go to town until you run out of magic.

>>15410197

That's every character minus the ones from 7.

>>15410199

>A fast forward button is really all you'll need.

>SNES9x for a CFWed 3DS lacks such a thing (to my knowledge)

PC it is. Good thing someone here shared the rom. Thanks again if you're reading this.

>That's every character minus the ones from 7.

That boy is especially obvious, particularly if you pick Bianca.

>>15410197

Has anyone called out Toriyama on the DQXI protagonist looking like one of the fucking faggots from Bill and Ted..

>>15410232

69 DUUUDDDEEE

>>15380300

Mate as a fucking Scot can you fuck off

Accents are spoken not written

You don't write down " "ann Oi 'ave a owl ov orrage" no you type the fuck way it's supposed to written so fuck you

>>15410197

Tbh most characters in DQ are

I mean if hey brought chrono in smash and they showed him as a silhouette at start everyone would think it's goko

>>15373978

WRPGs are 99% faggot games. No, worthless dialogue trees doesn't make them "complex".

>>15405376

I remember in secret of evermore one of the NPCs calls you a potty mouth if you have swear words in your name.

>>15385033

As someone who usually heavily scrutinizes Musous, gonna say DQH is a good one, but Hyrule Warriors is a lot better at being a Musou. Dragon quest Heroes 1 has a handful of Characters but the upside is they make those characters a lot more interactive with each other to forgo a bit of customization per character. Hyrule Warriors simply has more characters with a lot having multiple weapons which add multiple playstyles.

So if you want more of a pure Musou, Hyrule Warriors is better, if you want more of an Rpg with Musou combat, Dragon Quest Heroes is better for that.

>>15430077

Yes. The game is full of callbacks especially in the soundtrack.

>>15431708

4 was never remade on the SNES, just PS1, DS and Iphone if you want to count that. Otherwise everything here is right. 10 is an MMO and you will never, ever get a chance to play it unless you want to go out of your way to try and get the online mode patch working.

I figured I'd do a little list of all the tracks in 11 that are from older entries and when they appear, because I'm bored and the other thread hit the bump limit. I'll be using the English names by the way.

>DQ2: Catastrophe, plays in the opening when Hargon wrecks Moonbrooke castle. notable for debuting in the NES release

>plays in 11 when your dad fights off the demons invading Heliodor in a flashback

>DQ3: Prologue, the theme from the remakes when you do the personality test at the beginning

>plays pretty much whenever there's a flashback of any kind. happens a lot towards the end

>DQ3: Distant Memories, the theme that plays when you get news that your dad diedboth times

>plays whenever there's a "sad" flashback pretty much

>DQ3: X/Jipang, the theme for the Japanese town with the Orochi boss

>plays in the Japanese town, duh. feels kind of shoved in really

>DQ3: Small Shrine, theme that plays at small shrines, duh.

>same for 11 because let's be honest every game has a theme like this and they might as well have just picked the best one than try to come up with a new one again

>DQ3: Heavenly Flight, plays when you fly on Ramia/Lamia

>same in 11 but for the big whale thing and apparently only in the post game

>DQ3: Grueling Fight, plays when you fight Baramos and Zoma's first form. notable for not being in the original NES or Famicom releases

>in 11 plays during all the bonus fights in the post game

>DQ3: Hero's Challenge, plays when you use the orb of light on Zoma, or during the whole fight in the original

>in 11 plays during the real final boss fight you get after resurrecting Veronica

>DQ4: Colosseum Backstage/Stand, actually two themes, playing in the obvious areas at the colosseum

>same for 11, once again feels kinda like a forced callback

>DQ4: Battle for Glory, the standard battle theme and probably my favorite in the series personally

>plays in the colosseum fights in 11

>DQ5: Saint, played at the church you wash up in after you escape from slavery

>plays in 11 at the church after you break out of prison. really subtle callback here because it's not a particularly standout track

>DQ5: Arrival of Spring, plays when you beat the winter queen in the fairy area

>same thing in 11, though it's kind of stupid because you aren't bringing back spring more than you're just unfreezing shit. kinda funny to hear a "flowers are blooming" type track and then still see snow

>DQ6: Saint's Wreath, plays during a lot of the plot portions of the game especially when there's flashbacks

>in 11 it just seems to play randomly when you're at the mermaid area for some reason, which is weird because 6 already had a different underwater theme

>DQ6: Brave Fight, plays during the last phase with Mudo/Murdaw

>in 11 it plays whenever there's something "epic" happening pretty much. I'd say it's overrused

>DQ8: Stalked by Fear, plays whenever the big bad guy shows up

>same in 11, except it's sort of misused because the theme has a motif that appears in 8's final boss theme where it doesn't here. it's also used way too much in places where the villain is just some random goon

>DQ8: Sanctuary, plays in Savella Cathedral or whenever Marcello shows up

>in 11 it plays in the big sage temple where Senya/Serena and Veronika are from

None from 1, which is weird, or 7, 9 and 10 as far as I can tell, but feel free to add if I missed any.

>>15433904

Well fuck I meant to pinktext every other line so it's actually readable.

Is 7 on 3ds complete shit to play? How bad is the localization? (considering its treehouse)

>>15434015

Probably the most butchered localization there is. Not only is the script punned to all hell and back but they introduced a lot of menu lag and in battle slowdown somehow as well as a game crashing bug that appears when you go to the fragment pedestals. Also, the soundtrack isn't orchestrated though it's still at least better than the PS1's soundfont.

>>15434015

>considering its treehouse

You just answered yourself

>>15434022

Keep in mind we got this shit 3 AND A HALF FUCKING YEARS LATE and they still fucked it up worse than Enix did working on peanuts and a year's deadline.

>>15433909

>Implying straight greentext is illegible.

>>15370512

The only good DQ game is V, the rest are trash tier.

>>15435208

Are you talking about the scenario with the ho that was fucking the gardner? What the fuck. Wasn't she expelled from the town?

>>15435208

>other 100% confirmed cases such as FFXIV and Bravely Default

I'm going to need more info. Those games especially come off as tumblr infested to me.

Bump to remind DQXI steamshills that their game is confirmed fucking godawful

>>15433904

>>15430077

Stop derailing the thread just because you didn't like hearing out conconsus on it. Go back to your journo cult.

>>15435255

Here's your (You)

>>15436648

>out conconsus on it is that I haven't plaid it yet

I've been playing through Dragon Quest XI. It is a 9/10 game.

>>15405135

Story reasons most likely.

>>15443219

I remember being able to talk to people in 7 with one button. You could in the SNES ones at least. Also yes the game is padded to all fuck with cryptic bullshit to the point where "it takes a 100 hours to beat" assumes you don't know what to do. Once you do it's like 30ish even at a leisurely pace.

>>15443241

For context, I'm only three hours in. Is it really that cryptic? That Saint puzzle at the beginning was piss-easy, just long because of all the walking around. Does it actually get worse from there?

>I remember being able to talk to people in 7 with one button.

Oh, it's Triangle. Gee, that's fucking weird.

>>15443271

The puzzles are retard tier. The problems come when you start needing to look for shards, pretty much all of which are horrifically obscure and require you to search every nook and cranny, talk to every NPC, and revisit towns multiple times. It's also possible to permanently fuck yourself over so you need to clean your character inventory often to make sure that doesn't happen.

>>15370700

Black Onyx was the first turn based RPG to become popular in Japan and is the true father of JRPGs where Wizardry and Ultima are the grandfathers.

>>15443047

It is.

>>15444076

Fuck sake I forgot to spoiler and now it's giving me a "wrong password" error, which I've never seen before.

Fuck my life.

>>15444079

the password thing comes and goes, no real idea what causes it. anytime this happens just report your own post and ask to have your images spoilered

>>15431708

I don't see the point of playing the japanese release for DQIV DS. I just tried it on a flashcard with the cheatcode and it does NOT have partychat translated. It brings the generic message error.

So why play it over the US release?

>>15444076

Don't talk shit about Sylvando, he is the MOST CHARMFUL and honestly has the most common sense out of everyone else.

>>15448424

I'll say it again and again, you CAN learn Japanese I learned english and japanese despite being a third worlder, you have no excuse

>>15448433

Hey man I'm a third worlder too. Really good at English so I m8 give it a try, but right now I don't have much free time.

>>15448453

You don't need much time per day, but it's important to keep a routine. It's better to study 30min~1hour every day than to study 5+ hours but only once a week or so

I finished the game 6 days after it came out with voice acting on the entire time and I had a blast all the way through.

Now I want a BOTW style DQ game but with the game still actually being DQ, but with more RP elements with one being actually buying drinks and getting drunk at bars. Imagine the potential to have a dragon quest game and have it be truly open again just like the first ones.

>>15444076

After that Jade was no longer my waifu.

Shes nothing but used goods now.

And used by a fat fucking kike demon no less

>>15448433

>>15448453

First world burger here, the only language I need to know is English and I have never been off, suck my cock.

But really I do want to learn Nip one day due to all of the cool nip vidya im missing out on but I have no motivation to do so at the moment

>>15448468

>BOTW style for anything

Goddamn I think I'm gonna vomit

>>15448464

"10 minutes in duolingo while taking a shit in my workplace" will be

I very much enjoyed 7 but holy shit its been a while since I picked it back up, now I have no fucking clue what I was doing or where I'm going and I love it

>>15448495

Duolingo is shit, don't use it. Just start by reading Tae Kim or something

>>15448474

Go ahead and puke anon. Its not my problem.

I personally thought the first few hours of the game was magical. But then once you keep playing you realize how barebones the game actually is and how little content it has in terms of overworld monsters.

Music was also shit but everything else about the game was pretty damn enjoyable.

Running around Erdrea as a twink in DQXI reminded my of doing the same in hyrule in BOTW. Having a completely open world DQ game where you can do anything at any order but still be a DQ game would be pretty sweet wouldnt it?

>>15448716

I tried to enjoy it but it drags on and on for FAR too long.

I just gave up and dropped it seemingly a few hours before you fight the true final boss.

They really should have just let the game end when you fight the final boss for the first time instead of blueballing you of a fucking conclusion to that godforsaken game.

>>15448468

there are tons of doujins about that

>>15448831

Well if they can make a blatant Minecraft clone actually fun then surely a BOTW clone shouldn't be too hard. My only worry would be them conveniently forgetting obvious features that will show up in the sequel that comes out almost immediately after.

I avoided DQ for the longest time because of the fucked translations but i'll play 5 with the ps2 fan patch. From the hour i played of it it looks like it could be fun.

>>15453477

Yeah it's worth playing but the third bride is the only good bride

>>15453488

Bit of a conundrum here then. Wanted to see how hard the game would be with one less spellcaster.

>>15453477

Bianca is best girl, so yes. The rich bitch is good for a laugh example: there's a bit where your daughter expresses admiration for her mother, unless you married Debora, in which case she expresses admiration for you for putting up with her and is surprisingly good at beating things up without spells, but you're not missing much without her.

>>15453580

You're not obligated to use any of the human characters in your active party IIRC, you can just go MC+3 monsters if you want. So you could just bench the wife

>>15453945

I fucking hated her.

I was glad about what happened to her.

She also made veronica turn into an actually viable support/healer.

were there *any* good 3D dragon quests? and is DQ8 for PS2 censored much? I'm trying to get into this series but good ole american quality translations are making that difficult.

>>15459559

There isn't any in the PS2 version as far as I'm aware but the 3DS version is heavily censored and just weirdly altered. For example there's a bunch of characters who die in the same way and, in the PS2 version you see exactly how they die in a silent shot while in the 3DS version it usually cuts to black with a really overracted groan. Lots of stupid shit like that making an otherwise good remake annoying.

>>15459559

>*any*

It's any, nigger. Now get the fuck out.

>>15459313

>Tabitha is accounted for

Now I just need to get off my ass and learn Japanese already.

>>15464728

>tfw jurassic world fucking never

>>15464728

I didn't even know Black Clover got a game. How terrible is it?

>>15464728

I'll wait for the repack. Do you know if it has the option to use japanese text?

>>15470733

Who's Jade?

>>15470773

I think you forgot this >

>>15464728

As a sidenote, early in the game you'll need to go through manglegrove and emerald * (i forget name). There's a high chance of the game crashing when entering either of those two areas, if it does just switch it around between borderless and windowed to enter them and then it should work fine from there, seems like the crack has some issues

>>15470773

>DQXI has most likely killed the main line franchise anyway.

I hope not. I just got into this series.

>>15470802

thanks anon. does anyone know any other potential issues with this crack?

jesus fuck the voice acting is so shitty. Why even include it only weebs are buying this and if there werent any nip voices done then who cares

>>15471184

The kid voices in particular are zero effort. I think the king Dr. Gero is the only one worth a damn that I've heard of.

I feel the text box should have been a line bigger in height to deal with the change from compact nip to english. Kinda distracting how it spams lines

>>15471123

Just one more reason to master Japanese.

>this thread is still up

Jesus Christ, this board needs some traffic.

>>15473692

Fast or not the baord will still be a piece of shit that panders to cuckchanners such as yourself.

>>15473696

i dont know why i keep coming back, cuckchanners and twitter autists ruined this place years ago.

>>15473725

Addiction

It's a hub for vidya new and negative reactions to shit you dislike.

You got to cut it out like a tumour

Start by going outside and actually playing vidya.

Then if you want visit other boards, this board has been a garbage fire since 2016 and has only been getting worse.

is DQ11 worth playing? why does it get hate? it looked pretty good from the gameplay i saw.

>>15473926

It's a dragon quest game, I am enjoying it so far besides the crashes on the CODEX rip.

>>15473932

its unstable? i've yet to pick it up. i have alot on my list before i get to that.

maybe it'll be stable by the time im ready.

>>15473926

>why does it get hate?

Midi quality music, lazy looking protagonist (It is just fantasy Android 17), instanced world instead of a nice comfy world map like DQVIII, cant change your party leader like you can in VIII, plot is shit, combat is not as good as VIII.

Anon I have no idea why it gets all the hate it gets. No idea at all.

>>15473955

hmmm, the other stuff is pretty trivial tbh, but whats up with the combat? whats worse?

>>15473926

I'm just getting into the postgame now and I'd say yeah, it's worth playing. Worth clearing 100%? That's a lot tougher to answer. There are severe problems with content padding after the first "half" of the main story. Let's just say that the rate at which you get to see new locations, enemy types etc. slows down dramatically and while it's not as bad about this as many other JRPGs it does make you wonder why they structured the story the way they did if not because they're a pack of cheapskates. Hard to describe better without resorting to spoilers.

It's cracked now anyway so you have nothing to lose if you pirate it. Shipping a modern JRPG at full price with tinny midi music that practically mandates you supply your own soundtrack for the entire 100+ hour adventure is pretty unforgivable. What's more, it's not like you're going to miss out on any future patches or basic tech support by pirating, square enix doesn't believe in these things.

>>15473955

The visual design of the characters doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they're very shallow overall. The party members all get their personal quests (sort of), after which they claim to have developed and become stronger, so that's something…but I don't know man, it's like you never get to know them personally. There's lots of commentary about the party's current objective offered, but they talk to each other sparingly if ever, there's almost no party banter. You WANT to like them - but the constant reminders that they're robotic NPCs is just depressing after a while. Writers and designers really fucked up somewhere. Maybe the camp dialogues should have offered something different from the 'talk' option in the menu. Meh.

>>15474040

Imagine playing 8 without Trodain. That's what 11 feels like.

>>15474040

im practically deaf. is the music that bad?

Ok guys I've only played DQ 1&2 how much stuff does Builders take from? Do I also have to play 3 to get everything because so far it seems like it's just the 1st game.

>>15474170

Not total ear-splitting aural rape if that's what you mean, just grating after a few loops.

>>15474170

Anything that has any sort of brass in it sounds like complete ass, especially the boss theme. Some of the tracks are okay but it's almost entirely ones from older games. Really don't understand how the music for this series got so shitty after 8.

>>15474189

>>15474186

maybe that's something that'll be fixed in an update? seems weird. especially since they made an orchestral soundtrack.

dragon quest builders had fine music…. how did they fumble this? is there any info? i've never honestly seen complaints about a game's music like this. still nobody is giving me reasons to make me not want to play it

is the gameplay bad? is the combat shit? someone said it was "worse" but didnt say how.

>>15474227

The combat isn't bad but it's slower than any other game in the series, except 10, which sort of flies in the face of its entire legacy. In theory everything is there for an excellent game but it just all seems so half assed, like they really didn't feel like making it.

>>15474235

huh… from the criticism doesnt sound like its a bad game. at all. sounds like a decent game, but just a huge letdown for some.

Name 5 good reasons to buy DQ8 on the PS2 instead of the 3DS, especially if you prefer playing long RPGs on a handheld.

>>15474343

used PS2 games dont become a profit for a company that then uses that money to actively attacks emulation communities.

>>15474343

Dragon Quest 8 on 3DS was retranslated (i.e. recensored and given even worse rewrites), has horrible menu lag, tinny midi music, significantly inferior graphics, missing graphics, and numerous crash bugs. All of this is localization-exclusive though, so if you can read Japanese and get the JP version all you get is the outfit censorship.

Also what >>15474421

said plus the fact that they spend that money pozzing up games.

>>15474227

>especially since they made an orchestral soundtrack.

Because goy, you should be buying the orchestral soundtrack on limited release CDs!

>>15474172

Speaking as someone who started the main series due to Builders (playing the third right now), you don't need to play any of the games to "get" the setting of Builders, but it's nice fanservice nonetheless. The map is largely the same as the Alefgard from DQ1 but the remixed music comes from games all the way up to the fourth. Simply put, you'll be fine.

>Another DQ thread where no one talks about DQM

I played about 300 hours in the first DQM game on Gameboy, and recently started emulating the second game. Is it just me, or is DQM2 inferior to the first game?

>>15474172

You don't need anything to play Builders but you should play 3. It's the best of the original trilogy.

>>15479579

nigga just google the roms

>>15479698

>(((Google)))

>>15479814

>le (((jew))) meme

>>15479579

I want to fuck Maribel's brains out and then sleep resting in her curly hair.

>>15479698

Faggot just how new are you?

>>15480567

just how stupid are you? Even after emuparadise died finding roms is fucking easy