5c34b8 No.15367486
>that level
What are examples of otherwise great games that just have that one awful level?
99bd8e No.15367510
The entire second half of dark souls is basically that level
bce113 No.15367544
I fucking hated this area and the desert area in general as a kid.
5c34b8 No.15367547
>>15367532
Ohh god, I fucking hated that level.
0ad727 No.15367560
What game doesn't have at least one awful level?
a86372 No.15367562
There was a Futurama game?
0d3a29 No.15367569
I posit every Zelda game since the N64 has an overly long intro/tutorial sequence that dissuades me from going back to them. They're great games, but I just want to get the basic gear and roam around already.
e40494 No.15367570
Sewer levels are indisputably shit in every single case
5c34b8 No.15367575
>>15367562
Yea there was.
It was comfy as fuck besides from the image I posted. you should really check it out.
5c34b8 No.15367579
>>15367560
There's a differance between an awful level and a level that's so bad it makes someone want to quit the game altogether.
8b8340 No.15367593
>>15367570
Especially when they separate a character that you never ever use and force you to solo it.
>Osgiliath Sewer in LOTR:TTA
0ad727 No.15367596
>>15367570
Eh, wasn't that bad.
39ff5b No.15367610
>>15367570
Eeh they weren't that bad, if anything it should've been longer and more mazelike.
5a8a22 No.15367632
>man the pump station was a nightmare but not too bad when you figure out the levers
>good lord the badland stage was a pain
>get to volcano
>entire stage is about dropping down
>in a game where you instant die by falling in holes
>in a game where you have only three lives and can't get anymore
>in a game where the only way to get back to a stage you game overed in is to have the password
jesus christ
9d238e No.15367640
Combining the worst zone from one game with the worst level gimmick from another.
3c3509 No.15367645
>>15367640
Gee, I wonder if 12 game overs boy is behind this post :^)
5d1b77 No.15367659
This is pretty much "that level: the game" until you discover the sword dance move, which is unlocked in a very specific and obscure manner with no hints by the way.
d36cd8 No.15367665
>>15367510
this
literally perfect until like
sens or anor londo
5a8a22 No.15367669
>>15367645
Possibly, though you have to be insane to feel sandopolis act 2 was enjoyable.
141cb1 No.15367676
what was that one Siphon Filter level?
b62d89 No.15367680
10af03 No.15367703
>>15367680
>Be so good at the game you go back in time to when they were developing the game convincing the parties involved to properly implement their ideas and finish the areas
b06882 No.15367707
>>15367547
>>15367532
>>15367575
Heard for a licensed game it was alright, but only that. Also a surprisingly expensive licensed game for whatever reason.
cc223a No.15367718
This boring ass slow level. theres only 1 other that comes to being nearly as bad and its bad for the same reason.
45a8bd No.15367720
>>15367593
>Someone else played The Third Age
Underrated game, too bad it's piss-easy.
e6439c No.15367780
>>15367659
How does this differ from the 3DS version? I loved how big the world felt and how this grand adventure actually took a long-ass time.
e011d9 No.15367820
>>15367486
ITT: Sewer leve the thread
7dd07c No.15367824
>>15367676
The museum mandatory stealth level?
5d1b77 No.15367827
>>15367780
I don't know anything about the 3DS version because I noped the moment I saw that it had DLC and noped again when the localization was filled with bugs and optimization issues for no reason. I would imagine they made it easier but really the problem with the game is that the boss fights are just consistently bullshit and the class system is largely a waste of time outside of a handfull of skills you have no idea who has until you spend tens of hours grinding it out. Oh, and if you grind too much you can't grind anymore because fuck you.
97dfa6 No.15368143
>>15367607
came here to post this
the water temple is by far the most boring, tedious and unfun part of OoT
the one in TP wasn't much better, but at least you didn't have to run around finding a million keys all in opposite directions
5d1b77 No.15368158
>>15368143
>but at least you didn't have to run around finding a million keys all in opposite directions
That's exactly what the TP one was. Just you going from one end of the dungeon to the other because Midna is too lazy to use her powers to make the game 90% shorter.
f2ddca No.15368168
16e345 No.15368170
>>15368168
a lot of the levels in deus ex are a bit of a drag
eef457 No.15368176
>>15368168
Paris was the last comfy level before the endgame. I do hate the catacombs part though. I hate the freighter because you're almost forced to go in guns a blazin and make a shit load of noise with grenades
afb2c5 No.15368178
>>15368168
Paris was one of the best parts, especially the Cathedral. The worst part is doing the MJ9 lab full stealth.
bd8f75 No.15368183
>>15367532
>He didn't know about the meteor gun
16e345 No.15368187
>>15368178
Paris had the weakest city and the incredibly tedious catacombs.
358e8d No.15368189
>>15367610
The problem with this, is that you absolutely have to be statted heavily for combat, or this section is near impossible. Played a social character the whole game? Better restart.
16e345 No.15368195
>>15368189
bad game design
afb2c5 No.15368207
>>15368187
The only problem with the Catacombs were that they were kinda like a maze, but luckily most players had the invis augment by then making sneaking around trivial. The city was cool. It had plenty of extra places you could loot and it wasn't too difficult dodging the walking paths of the robots and the soldiers.
e8c672 No.15368217
I enjoy d2 as a game and have spent hundreds of hours playing but I realize that many of the maps just outright suck to play through and I can't go back to the game anymore for long periods of time. Act 1 & 4 are probably the most solid overall but the rest I just want to get over it with.
8285f4 No.15368219
this and the motorbike levels although i enjoyed the motorbike ones growing up
16e345 No.15368242
>>15368207
the city was poorly designed, overly spread out with few unique areas or scenes. It's unfinished and shows off the game in a very poor light with the low vision distance of the AI.
7fe7d7 No.15368275
>>15368168
seems like paris sucked because they ran out of time to work on things towards the end. paris is too big for how empty it is.
d230a0 No.15368383
>>15367575
Is there any reason to play the PS2 version over the Xbox version? i have both softmodded
435fa5 No.15368399
>>15367575
What's wrong with the level?
b9051d No.15368512
>>15368168
Ocean Lab is when Deus Ex plummets in quality.
I'll nominate a good few levels from the first Thief. Also the last level in Thief 2, great until that one.
a0987a No.15368541
Every single one of the kid platforming stages in NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams. I guarantee the game would have been far better received without the terrible voice acting and annoying shitty platforming stages.
685feb No.15368567
>>15367607
>le water temple meme
f3669e No.15368578
>>15368541
I really wish this game received like another year of development time. There were some neat ideas in the game, but a lot of it felt really clunky.
a6fc8c No.15368579
>>15367560
>>15367579
Shifting sand land isn't that bad, you guys just suck.
>>15367632
May as well just say you don't like old platformers, and you already made it past the river which is the worst one imo.
>>15367570
Star wars shadows of the empire is the exception, the junkyard is annoying while the sewer level is actually fun.
92b7d1 No.15368623
>>15368567
OP said bad level, not "hard".
0ad727 No.15368649
>>15368579
Shifting Sand Land doesn't really have that many interesting stars. The desert setting could work but it's pretty bland and aside the pyramid and Pokeys, not much else really ties into it. The tornadoes are annoying. They're not really a challenge, they just waste ten to fifteen seconds, and way too often catch you when you're on the four pillars, trying to actually trigger the checkpoints, which often don't trigger. The flight cap is used in the most boring way so far, just requiring to fly in straight lines. The inside of the pyramid, as well, isn't very interesting, having only one real platforming challenge, and even that's barely a challenge. It's just a bland stage with annoying mechanics.
9cd77a No.15368657
>>15367532
I thought that level was pretty cool, though the ice leviathans went a long way with me.
016abc No.15368761
>>15368217
5 is the worst by far. People tend to hate 3, but most of 5 is running through a gray area punching doors and fighting endless repeating teleporting enemies. At least 3 has better exploration, since it has the most varied level generation even if it's long and tedious (Some areas at the beginning can appear out of order for example).
e930ed No.15368952
“Down The Bonehoard” and “Return To The Cathedral” in Thief TDP
You go from stealing from mansions and sneaking through prisons to playing Tomb Raider with the Dark Engine’s subpar physics. I respect the developers at trying to set the mood by having the map literally say “Where the fuck am I?”and have the player figure out their bearings on their own, but you need to have markers in the level so you don’t have to keep running lost in circles for hours trying to find an obscure entrance to the next part of the map.
And while I’m at it, I fucking hate the Thieves Guild level in the Gold version of the game. I like the casino and going between mansions, but the sewer part of that level represents everything wrong with 90’s map design. Can’t tell you the number of times I had to reset because I came to a gate that I didn’t unlock because I missed a specific level combination.
e0912b No.15368971
>>15367532
Nigger just spam the Heavy Bouncer and everything that fires rockets and bombs.
9b27fc No.15369032
S3&K will always be a favorite of mine, but I loathe this stage for the S3 portion. It's boring as fuck, only Sandopolis is worse.
ef64d8 No.15369038
>>15367607
>>15368143
>but at least you didn't have to run around finding a million keys all in opposite directions
You don't have to do this any more than in any other dungeon in the game at that point. The water temple is only hard for normalfags with no vertical spatial recognition. They get lost.
ef64d8 No.15369042
>>15367659
I tried playing this, but the way the sprites don't mesh at all with the enviroment is fucking ugly as sin.
39546f No.15369043
2ce702 No.15369060
What's so bad about sewer levels? They're fine if you ask me. Any examples?
796eb2 No.15369064
combine an escort mission with an underwater segment and u get this
0e8559 No.15369069
>>15367486
Zone of The Enders 2 (The Second Runner) for PS2.
The game is all about high speed mecha fights, flying all over the place.
Then, in one of the very later levels, you are thrown in a infiltration mission, where you have to walk slowly to not activate bombs or alarms, and everything does high damage to make sure that you can't try to just rush the level.
The boss fight in this level is one of the best of the whole game, but the level is one of the worst ideas ever applied/misused in a video game.
5d1b77 No.15369113
>>15369042
Be glad you never got to the dancing FMV then. It looks worse than CD-i promos.
c65a8f No.15369117
>>15369064
I had suppressed that entire section away from my memory. But didn't that section reveal just how fucked up that scientist's family life was?
5e1931 No.15369150
>>15367607
>Water Temple
Water Temple was not that fucking bad. It was convoluted and samey, a bit confusing in its design, but not that bad; overcoming the challenge felt great. And, as >>15369038 said, people with some measure of vertical spatial recognition would have a much easier time playing the game; it didn't help that much of the original N64 graphics in OoT were very bland and poorly designed, which led to further confusion. If you played the 3DS remake of OoT, they redesigned the Water Temple textures and graphics to be more vibrant, giving better visual cues for players to help them figure out the puzzles.
Lord Jabu Jabu's belly was shorter but MUCH more annoying to play into because escorting Ruto was a pain in the ass. It didn't feel like a challenge to overcome, it felt like an annoyance forced on you for little to no reason whatsoever; dealing with Ruto's bitchy attitude on top of trying to fight off all the shit trying to eat you just made me rage, and finally solving the 'puzzle' just made me shake my head and think;
>Finally, I can kill the goddamn boss and get out of this shithole.
5d1b77 No.15369158
>>15369150
It was a bit more than that actually. They flat out put "go here retard" neon signs in the Water Temple for the remake complete with a cutscene that shows that one hidden room everyone had trouble finding. If anything the best change was making the iron boots a quick item.
5d1b77 No.15369177
>>15369158
Forgot to mention that in Master Quest it was actually easier because there isn't as many circuits to make. In that one you don't have to come back to a room with a different water level nearly as much and generally speaking you can complete each room on a first trip. You also get the longshot almost immediately.
c542ff No.15369197
>>15367560
That level is awesome, you dumb nigger.
Pic related is utter garbage.
>>15367610
I loved that part, tbh
>>15368189
>Not using firearms
435fa5 No.15369203
>>15368541
NiGHTS Journey of Dreams was such a nice ride. Those missions were dumb. At least the soundtrack was top tier
b09b0b No.15369374
>>15369064
I normally hate escort stuff but I breezed past that tbh.
Also I appreciated Emma helping me discover my fetish for spats.
22350d No.15369445
>>15368195
It's unfinished
16e345 No.15369456
22350d No.15369483
>>15369456
Clever observation, simpleton
ef64d8 No.15369520
>>15369483
How enlightened. Please bless us with your wisdom Anon-sama.
87a2bc No.15369606
>>15367607
>water temple
>not the abomination that is the shadow temple
16e345 No.15369624
>>15369606
the shadow temple is fine and has a great boss, the water temple is a drag
5d1b77 No.15369699
>>15369606
It's practically a straight line.
742f4a No.15369708
End of The World is the worst fucking level in an otherwise enjoyable game/series. Nomura deserves to be shot for this shit.
>The same piss easy, tedious fucking boss 3 fucking times all within one hour of gameplay
>Maze with "invisible walls" that's so easy to figure out
>Introduces new enemy types that are just pure tedium because of how much health they have
>Chernobog out of fucking nowhere, hardly even difficult, more tedious
>A "challenge" room that's only challenging if you didn't bother getting Aeroga. Otherwise it's just a tedious resource drain
>Everything past the "challenge" room is so fucking easy that it feels like the game has decided to play itself as a reward for you putting up with that one bullshit room.
>Bunch of walking sequences and cutscenes after the final boss when you just desperately want the credits to roll already
Someone please just fucking kill Nomura before he fucks up FFVII.
7f23cf No.15369719
>>15369606
Shadow Temple is easy as fuck, has great atmosphere, music and a fun boss fight. It's one of my favourite in the game.
Now if you had said the Spirit Temple I would have agreed.
5d1b77 No.15369722
>>15369708
The FF7 remake will suck ass with or without Nomura and you know it.
742f4a No.15369739
>>15369722
But you know it's gonna be far worse with Tetsuya "Development Hell" Nomura at the helm. With a different director we could probably have expected the first disc out by holiday next year. But with Nomura they've just thrown out everything they've made and are starting over from scratch. Everything you saw in the "gameplay" reveal is fucking down the toilet and this is not unusual for Nomura and hasn't been for years now. But because Japan is retarded and he's a senior staff member, they won't fire the stupid prick.
SOMEONE JUST END IT ALREADY
5d1b77 No.15369745
>>15369739
Really they should've never even bothered especially before 15 or KH3 even came out. Their release schedule is like a spastic kid writing a wish list.
e95dee No.15369761
>>15369708
Fuck I hate the end of KH1, I gave up on my hardest mode (proud?) playthrough midway through Hollow Bastion, left it for a year, came back and took several hours to find my place again then the end of the world area hit me again and I gave up all over again, what a shit climax to a game.
4a57da No.15369762
>>15369708
I loved that level and thought it to be climactic as fuck to both game and story at the same time.
I think you just weren't in the mood or played for way too long at once.
The Ansem cutscenes are among the most atmospheric and well voiced cutscenes known to man.
b181c4 No.15370043
Replaying Conker's Bad Fur Day, the whole farmyard area is kind of shit, and feels like a hanger on from when the game was more of a conventional collectathon.
ed2992 No.15370102
I hate forced walking sequences and sequences with dissonant effects
ed2992 No.15370133
Although Tales of Symphonia isn't the kind of game I would replay BUT this thread had me remember the Shadow Temple in it which is unadulterated garbage, complete with cat herding mechanics.
5a8a22 No.15370136
>>15368579
The river level isn't so bad, especially when you find out that you can do a jump that skips one of the more pain in the ass moments with a t rex. The vocano is bullshit within the context of the game as, like I said, it requires you to keep making jumps downwards into the unknown and unless you KNOW where a death fall is, you'll likely game over here several times.
5a8a22 No.15370137
>>15369032
Marble garden is just… yeah, it's fucking boring. At least Sandopolis is tense and irritating, but marble garden is boring two acts in a row.
10ed8d No.15370140
>>15370102
This sequence really illustrates how shit mouse smoothing is. The sequence is like trying to drive a car with shitty wheel alignment.
5d1b77 No.15370141
>>15370133
Really I'm struggling to remember a single part of that game that wasn't a slog.
ed2992 No.15370147
>>15370141
I tried it out to introduce myself to the series and it got pushed into the backlog somewhere around the time you get escape from jew angel jail, the dungeons are just SOOOOOOOOOOO fucking padded
5a8a22 No.15370148
>>15370141
>>15370133
>beat the game
>learn of new game plus
>oh cool I'll just carry over my monster docs and levels so I don't have to deal with tedious shit on the second playthrough
<lol got grade?
<better grind for GRADE
<not enough GRADE to BUY the shit you spend 40 hours to get? well fuck right off
I've never touched a tales game since then and I never will
6decd4 No.15370150
>>15370102
speaking of max payne, both stages where you have to help Payne as Mona after the cleaner warehouse(?) explosion and help Gognitti escape while he's stuck on that rigged baseball bat boy costume
5d1b77 No.15370153
>>15370147
It really doesn't get much better since the later games either made the combat way slower while shortening dungeons or made the dungeons even more needlessly long while making the combat so quick it's over before you even really start having fun. The games are garbage without friends.
ed2992 No.15370170
>>15370153
shame, all the hype regarding vesparia got me interested but symphonia is dragging so much on the back end it's tough to boot it back up and finish it up
5d1b77 No.15370203
>>15370170
Vesperia probably has the most tolerable dungeons but the combat and general pacing of the story is painfully slow. The main character has a moment that a lot of people consider to be the highlight of the series but all it did for me was make me wonder why he didn't do it more often. It's also not as hilariously stupid as Symphonia so I didn't have as much fun with it.
ef7c82 No.15370251
>>15369069
I can see why you would hate that level, but I thought it was pretty comfy and a nice break from the action. The music is nice and relaxing, and having to rely on Ken's voice to guide you through unharmed is pretty unique. She has so many detailed voice lines and she corrects you if you are even slightly off-course. Her fumbling the instructions every once in a while was as cute as it was heart-attack inducing.
b8d094 No.15370294
>Halo SPV3 mod
>Two Betrayals
>reuses previous level's location
>jackals with human sniper rifles that can take your shields away before you can even react
>rocket launcher flood
>wide open areas with a slow moving character
>very little cover
>it feels like enemies will always shoot with more accuracy than you with most guns
>vehicle section with a Halo 3 hornet but you have to snipe the banshees from far away or get absolutely assraped by the sheer numbers of banshees
>enemies spawn right on top of you when you lose your shields after disabling the ring's generator or whatever the fuck it is
I loved SPV3 but their version of an already shitty part of Halo CE can go fuck itself.
5e1931 No.15370319
>>15367669
Sandopolis Zone Act 2 was bad. I didn't particularly like the first act, but whoever was behind the level design of act 2 deserves to be shot. I genuinely enjoyed Oil Ocean classic, though. If any level was bad in 2, it was Sky Chase. The music was the only good part of that boring fucking level.
14ef09 No.15371146
>>15367607
>not reaching a level of inhuman clarity out of sheer lust for fish tits and slowing down time to complete it in 69 seconds
8b695d No.15371159
>>15371146
>posting shit art
f6459e No.15371189
I never liked this case, it was cut from 2 for good reason.
f6459e No.15371204
also the forced wolf segments early in twilight princess
later the game becomes super fun but being stuck as a wolf is just annoying
8b695d No.15371209
>>15371204
>not appreciating the one time Midna would ever ride you
f87198 No.15371220
>>15371209
>TFW you will never give midna the knot
45b789 No.15371228
>>15371146
How does she piss without a vagina?
269080 No.15371243
>>15367486
>Benders levels being the worst
They were actually the only non-shit one after the tutorial. Everything else in the game was pure shit and bullshit. The only bad part about Bender's shitty level was climbing and balancing on those stupid stone platforms.
14ef09 No.15371267
>>15371228
the same was she can lactate without nipples
467c57 No.15371339
What in the fuck were you thinking, IREM?
c78c46 No.15372671
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I can replay the game again and again but not that part.
The music is bad, the gameplay is the same and it never ends
0e8559 No.15372747
>>15370251
Worst character with the worst voice "acting".
f5fab5 No.15372748
>>15369762
The thing that sticks with me about that game, years later, is that he was right about one thing. One who knows nothing can understand nothing.
14ef09 No.15372762
>>15372747
as opposed to voice for realing/
5d1b77 No.15372914
>>15371339
Probably something along the lines of "how can we get even more quarters".
ef9349 No.15372973
>>15369708
I loved that part of the game because it was nothing but combat, the first island, hollow bastion before you get back your keyblade and mostro can suck a nigger dick though.
a68b74 No.15372979
>>15368512
The Escape level in Thief, not only responsible for every shit-level in a stealth-game where they have to throw in a twist of the story, so now suddenly everyone knows where you are in the story and now you have to escape. (Which are the biggest piece of shit-levels there are, especially since it ruins the idea of your achievements up until that with throwing story-elements at you making you become discovered even though you never failed).
The only problem with Thieves Guild is it's not fully tested so the shadows are wonky and guard-detection is slightly off. Thought it was kinda cool to break into two mansions and framing one another.
167b1d No.15372981
>>15370294
>mod
If people start bitching about every shoddy mod out there this thread would gonna bump limit in about 5 mins.
b8bac3 No.15372987
>What are examples of otherwise great games that just have that one awful level?
>examples of otherwise great games
>Otherwise great games
>great games
Anon… I can't think of any from the top of my head.
d68846 No.15373072
Every time I see one of these threads, I can't not bring up Tsar Runner. Not that Binary Domain doesn't have other shitty sections, but nothing so much as the goddamn slog this segment is.
>Chase scene with you stuck in a car only able to peek in and out of cover from one spot
>boss has so much health you're shooting him for literally ten minutes of the same boring repetitive bullshit
>if you die, you get to do most (all? i forget, it's been a long time) of it all again
It could've been a really goddamn cool fight (LOOK AT HIM, HE LOOKS RAD), but instead it was a shitty bullet sponge.
3b9047 No.15373084
The stealth segments in Call of Juarez. They're so fucking shitty.
>>15372953
RIP
f7824e No.15373103
To this day I've never gotten a gold medal on Escape From Fest.
c542ff No.15373117
>>15371209
But she rides on you throughout the whole game
702b46 No.15373124
>>15373103
It's funny to think that I did as a kid, I 100% all three Rogue games. Yet as an adult, I probably couldn't even play half of Escape from Fest without failing the mission
0e8559 No.15373164
>>15373047
Currently, not anymore.
But at the time, yes. The worst idea of it's time.
00680b No.15373173
>>15373107
That and don't forget Squid Adler/Volt Kraken's stage.
4c1767 No.15373185
>>15368168
>Not any level involving these fucker
a91885 No.15373210
>>15367510
more like the entire DaS2 is that level and you just need to git gud at DaS
2a3fff No.15373236
Not difficult, just boring and tedius.
Still 10/10 game, though
e2ab3e No.15373250
Delivering the Hydras head in Dragon's Dogma.
>quest is just before the meat of the game
>have to walk alongside a slow ass cart
>cart will not move if you stray too far from it
>only thing to do is sporadically fight boring mob enemies
cc5274 No.15373252
>>15373173
I'd argue there was more than just one shitty stage in X5 though. Duff McWhalens stage for sure is worse.
>>15373210
More like DaS2 and 3 were that and DaS was a fluke.
b85e8f No.15373284
>>15373250
You can at least hit the cow to make it go faster. Just not too much
2e4e35 No.15373291
>>15368242
>low vision distance of the AI.
If the bots line of sight were any higher Paris would be a huge pain in the ass MJ12 troops onwards have much higher line of sight then terrorists or UNATCO, and liberty island already demonstrated that the AI had terrible line of sight anyways.
855cde No.15373304
>>15367560
>>15367579
What's wrong with it?
16e345 No.15373311
>>15373291
You're missing the point. Paris never should have been designed as it was with its massive, empty streets because it shows all the issues with the game. It's not about the AI being shit, despite the fact it is, it's about letting the fact it's shit shine brightly because the level fucking sucks.
d0a04d No.15373441
>>15367596
>be me
>get Postal 2 on steam
>finish playing Monday to Friday
>see yt video on secrets hidden in the town of Paradise
>there was a fucking large sewer with weapons and al-Qaeda motherfuckers and I never even knew about it through my whole playthough.
Although I wished they added more things to the sewer. Like connecting to more surface levels instead of just the cemetary.
d0a04d No.15373447
I fucking hated this part so much.
4e2c62 No.15373464
>>15373447
Hating On a Rail is just a meme at this point.
Sure, the cart should have gone faster, but it's really the only map that actually lets you explore and forces you to find your own way instead of just going forward
16e345 No.15373474
>>15373464
doesn't work well in hl, exploration in the chapter doesn't even give you anything interesting. It's pretty easy to skip at least but man it sure fucking sucks.
d0a04d No.15373475
>>15373464
>gone faster
Nah the cart's max speed is good enough.
>explore & find your own way
Well in that case the whole game should've been like that. You can't just make a whole half of the game a linear shooter but specifically add a non-linear level to it. It ruins the flow of the game.
d0a04d No.15374938
ad8379 No.15375120
>>15367510
They really just gave up entirely right around Lost Izalith with the empty space and "babby's first time in level editor" tier enemy placement
acfeee No.15375176
>>15367570
>Crash Bandicoot 2: Sewer or Later
>R-02 Research Facility
>Bloodborn has some great sewers
>Ninja turtles arcade Sewer Level
>Batman NES level 3
>Banjo Kazooie's Clanker’s Cavern
>Dark Souls, The Depths
>Dark Souls II, The Gutter
>>15375016
EWJ 2 is much more fun than the first game only because it removed alot of the bullshit. I always hated For Pete's sake.
843e03 No.15375201
>>15367562
>>15367575
worth noting that it counts as episode 73 of the series according to David X Cohen
467c57 No.15375275
>>15372914
It was extremely uncharacteristic for an IREM game to get that cheap though.
467c57 No.15375276
>>15373107
The whole game was trash, you can't blame it on a single stage.
0e90c6 No.15375293
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>>15371220
There's always porn to pick up the slack.
000000 No.15375315
>>15367570
>place literally designed to store human shit makes for a shitty gaming experience
Who would ever have thought? My least favorite sewer level out of all the awful sewer levels is the Kislev sewer from Xenogears. It's even worse on account of them interrupting the fucking awesome battle arena competition with it.
>>15368217
I thought a lot of the D2 maps everyone hated were actually fun. Except Faggot Lair, that place can burn in hell.
d0a04d No.15375388
>>15375201
>episode 73
what the fuck
b8d094 No.15375394
>>15375293
>Bestiality
Fuck off, nigger, your taste in porn is SHIT.
7f21e9 No.15375403
>>15375394
>shithead with shit taste says other people's taste in porn is shit
b8d094 No.15375460
>>15375403
SPV3 is a decent mod. Bestiality fetish is wanting to fuck animals like a filthy degenerate. You're calling me a shithead? Fuck off furfag.
85732c No.15375493
>>15372979
>The only problem with Thieves Guild is it's not fully tested so the shadows are wonky and guard-detection is slightly off. Thought it was kinda cool to break into two mansions and framing one another.
It wasn't just that. It was the whole layout of the level. You have a linear straight shot to the sewers, which there's only one really viable path. Then you have 2 "Options" on how to get to each mansion, but there's only one real entrance for the mansions and you have to do them in order.
Still. It's not nearly as bad as The Haunted Cathedral
0a5872 No.15375503
>>15373252
More like the entire DaS series was this and Bloodborne was better.
85732c No.15375506
>>15368178
>Paris was one of the best parts,
Wrong. Compare Paris to Hong Kong or New York and you'll begin to see how shallow and shitty it is. It's a shame because it had huge amounts of potential to since the illuminati was there.
> especially the Cathedral
The Cathedral and Mansion are pretty good though.
Basically this >>15368275
cc1fa9 No.15375513
>>15375403
Naw he's right,bestiality is the worst fetish
2e5f13 No.15375519
>>15375293
Prime reaction image material
89c71f No.15375723
>>15368541
>even with a non-Sonic game they had to fuck it up by forcing you to play as another character with a different play style
there's no escape
0e055b No.15376041
k guys got a game to get drunk with
lets have a fucking race in the middle of it, oh and change the course half way threw and have the walls get you caught fucking constantly, auto kills left and right and god forbid you slow down when the lap changes. matches with jack and shit of the rest of the game but lets block off half the game behind it.
0dbc6f No.15376059
>>15368189
You don't have to restart, there are multiple point where you can go back to city to resupply. Also the game warns you with blood guard that you can't use social skills all the time and have to use combat too
85732c No.15376078
>>15376041
>Implying the race was the bad part
The game did start to go downhill when you reach the cavemen, but that was nowhere near as bad as the fucking haunted mansion level and it's god damn keys. Or how the entire endgame was just movie references.
b2bc45 No.15376660
>>15373447
>>15373464
The Xen levels were good.
5a8a22 No.15377104
>>15373047
>>15373164
>playing as &Knuckles all the time
>beat the game several times
>play as sanic
>got to barrel
>what
I gave up the first time, but the second time I wound up at it, I accidentally figured out the up-down function.
>>15373236
That's pretty bad, but let me spell out hell for you:
>get to glitz pit
>finish glitz pit
>trying to do as much as possible early on
>go to koopa town
>there is a Bud
>talk to it and it says it wants to experience things
>some trivial item fetching
>then it says "I want to experience something SPICY. Bring me a hotdog from the glitz pit
>at this point in the game ,the shortcut to the glitz pit is not there
>have to walk through koopa village
>walk down road
>walk through three screens of rogueport
>ride blimp that takes 30 seconds and can't skip
>get to hotdog stand
>buy hotdog
>get back in blimp
>mandatory 30 second cutscene riding blimp
>need to walk through 3 screens of rogueport
>need to run down a road
>back to koopa town, round trip likely took over 5 minutes of nothing
>give the fucker his hotdog
>"Oh, Spicy! This is very spicy! Thank you."
>get reward and wonder what this faggot wants to close out his quest
>"for my last thing, I'd like…"
ANOTHER FUCKING HOTDOG
0e055b No.15377412
>>15376078
i cant get past the race
dae513 No.15377439
>>15367510
I hate this leddit meme, it was a bit worse than the first half but overall it was still good
85732c No.15378999
>>15377412
Be glad, the game only goes downhill from there
>>15367513
The Thief shows you the secret path when you first join the level
b5d9de No.15380576
>>15367593
>>15367720
I remember playing through the story just so I could do evil mode over and over.
d0a04d No.15383348
>>15376660
I can agree to an extent. The only problem was (once again) the change of surroundings broke the ebb and flow of the game.
869bdc No.15383698
>>15369150
>dealing with Ruto's bitchy attitude on top of trying to fight off all the shit trying to eat you just made me rage
Why do autists get so incredibly angered by the "snooty princess" archetype?
6d8c5e No.15383778
>>15378999
>>15376078
War was one of the highlights of the game though, once you actually get the gun. I actually liked the Mansion the first time I played for some reason, but every subsequent time I have to agree its a chore.
Caveman race isn't that hard once you git gud.
0e055b No.15383888
>>15383778
oh really… so how long does it take to grind that shit out? i fucked around for about 4 hours on it and i just don't have the reaction time anymore. after the last round of prescriptions it's like i'm living life with 200 ping
85732c No.15383904
>>15383778
I didn't like war that much. The game lost its charm at that point. Something about it made it feel so disconnected from the rest of the game. If I had to take a guess why, it'd be the tone gave me a strong movie reference vibe (saving private ryan?). It's weird, because for me, the military minigames fit the game better than the war section.
>>15383888
The only hard part I can remember is the beach.
38f303 No.15383927
This thread has been open since monday and no one posted this yet. I'm shocked.
7e58bd No.15383979
>Playing Need for Speed Underground
>Beat everyone and I assume the game is done
>Suddenly new challenger
Fuck that rubberbanding bitch. The only race I would consider hard, and it is because the race is rigged against you. Even when I never crashed and was almost always top speed, and I crashed the other car, she still caught back to me.