77a9b0 No.15352402
Will we ever get a proper sequel to Dragon's Dogma?
bc67ce No.15352493
>>15352402
Probably not, and honestly Capcom would just fuck it up if they ever gave it a second chance. Dragon's Dogma was a happy accident that, at its core, was a flawed yet interesting experience, and that's all it will ever be.
8aa44a No.15352519
>>15352493
/v/ just can't admit a game is fun lmao
ede362 No.15352750
>>15352402
Probably not, which fucking sucks because no other game has tried to capture its magic.
I want a game that has the same combat and recreates those parts of the game where you're crawling through tombs or tight cracks in mountains that lead to tunnels filled with things to rummage through and monsters to kill.
The open plains and forests were fine (althought the witchwoods were also exceptional when you left the charms untouched and couldn't use the minimap), but the dungeon crawling is where the game shined for me and there's fucking nothing like it out out there.
892c1d No.15352753
Why not just merge DD and Monsterhunter? They're basically the same just monhun is limited
6d5e96 No.15352761
>>15352753
>put some fethrs on the armor, add some dungeons and call it Monster Hunter: Dragon's Dogma 2: World
>sell 2 jillion copies
Brilliant
ad10bf No.15352818
>>15352519
He's right to a degree. It's a fun game, but the final result is an accident. At least half the game was cut because Capcom had no faith in it. There were meant to be alternate universes and at one point you even go to the moon.
You'll notice a lot of fantastic games follow a similar pattern, Fallout: New Vegas is a husk of what they intended it to be, so instead of making more content they focused on what they already had. That's my hypothesis for why games made in a struggle turn out this way.
892c1d No.15352824
>>15352818
SOTC is another example of that really amplified the desolate atmosphere too
47af07 No.15352848
>>15352750
My man, you need to understand the full experience, you do not just run a dungeon, you wake up in a tavern, you decide to go on an adventure, you trek though beautiful nature, decide how best pass this ravine/lake/forest just like Shadow of the Collossus, and then you get to the dungeon. This is primal, this is the kind of things cavemen did and is encoded directly in our soul.
e961ab No.15353959
>>15352818
>Fallout: New Vegas
Not that familiar with DD, but I very much doubt its development is even slightly on the level of New Vegas':
>clear back in 2000
>ambitious original IP 3D overhead RPG, Torn, using licensed engine, project collapses a year into development
>new in-house 3D engine, built for two sequels, BG3 (Project Jefferson) & F3 (Project Van Buren)
>F3 is massive game, design docs 90% completed, in-game assets 60% completed
>2003, Interplay fired the entire studio, and went down in flames with all their projects
>next year, Interplay reached out of its grave to hand Bethesda the rights to the Fallout, Beth having outbid members of the old Fallout teams at Troika and Obsidian, fucking them over yet again.
>2008, "Fallout" "3" rapes the franchise yet again , Beth gives original Fallout devs highly restrictive rights to make a quickie spinoff
>Obsidian hammers together the original "Van Buren" design, Beth's rapelore, and Bethesda's re-recycled Gamebryo engine in a whirlwind 18-month cycle, to produce New Vegas.
>In spite of bugginess and brokenness, New Vegas is a huge seller, but terms of Obsidian's contract with Beth dick them out of most of the revenue on a technicality, and Beth is so butthurt they never let an outside dev show up one of their hiking sims with decent writing again.
ab4316 No.15354663
You'd hope after DMC5 Itsuno goes back to Dragon's Dogma. The foundation is already there, they just have to reign themselves in or face the publisher budget cuts/milestones. A couple of new new vocations, more enemies, more varied (both in terms of enemy placement and vistas) and open world, a far stronger opening "act", maybe more input into choices, tweak the vendors, farming and crafting to be smoother and we're probably set.
37eab8 No.15354668
I really don't see what you people like in this game. I played it until I beat the dragon in a few days, and it was a miserable experience.
6dc522 No.15354674
>>15352402
Dude, Dragon's Dogma Online.
74c875 No.15354682
If you're interested in original Skyrim instead of Japanese one, its sequel is supposed to come out soon
041e67 No.15354691
>>15352402
I'd rather it keep what little dignity it has left after DDO than get a shitty sequel, which is the most likely outcome if one was made.
>>15352753
>They're basically the same just monhun is limited
You've never played either game.
304fb2 No.15354696
>>15352493
cant be any worse than monster hunter world
37eab8 No.15354718
aa5941 No.15354726
>>15354696
>>15354718
C'mon you little sperg. Hang yourself. The older monster hunter games are either stiff jank garbage, phone games or kawaii desune chibi nigger taint licker tier
304fb2 No.15354728
8a50fb No.15354730
2549a1 No.15354732
>>15354726
Sensitive much, you limp wristed faggot?
d82e72 No.15354747
>>15352402
Can I ask when the hell does this game get good? I dropped it after the hydra because the entire game so far was generic quests full of cutscenes
b48450 No.15354753
>>15352753
MHW is pretty much that already.
Thats why MHW is so damn successful.
If capcom loved money then we need another Japanese Skyrim.
I'd personally buy that shit in a heartbeat.
041e67 No.15354758
>>15354747
That's still part of the tutorial. It opens up when you get to the big city.
37eab8 No.15354762
77a9b0 No.15354791
>>15354668
To some extent that's why I want a sequel. The game has some great elements, mostly in the combat, but is severely lacking in polish (both in presentation and world design). It's the perfect game for a sequel: they have a few core things they do well, and now they can fix the rest of it.
>>15354674
I said "a proper sequel."
>>15354682
I know you're memeing, but TES6 won't be out until 2025.
63c733 No.15354830
>>15354791
>I know you're memeing, but TES6 won't be out until 2025
I doubt it, I am sure they will release it by 2021, most likely in 2020.
b48450 No.15354831
>>15354809
>Implying thats not skyrim 2
23ab68 No.15354837
>>15354831
>implying DD isn't japanese skyrim
ad10bf No.15354855
>>15354837
I never got this meme, DD is closer to Demon Souls than it is Skyrim
5b80e5 No.15354895
dragon's dogma was a trash game and dark arisen managed to make it even more terrible. lets not get confused here. the only reason this game isn't completely forgotten is because it allows you to create your own loli. people will lie to you saying the combat is good when it's not. it's nothing more than spamming usually one ability and curatives so you can continue spamming. climbing is a gimmick that's never used except when forced. magic is not practical and you'll only ever be using your staff charge ability since it's almost instant and shits out damage. dark arisen was "we want the dark souls audience" except just putting in a bunch of health sponge enemies that encouraged more spamming one singular attack and relying on that reset ability because you can't actually roll dodge attacks in dd. then they changed the loot system into a fucking slot machine and fuck dd and fuck dark arisen. i could still keep going on about the quests which were total shit as well, but i'm done. the game is a loli creator and that's it. that's the only thing it excels at. anyone who says the combat is good is a subhuman who can't tell the difference between flash and depth
ff2f9a No.15354903
>>15354837
But it isn't TES.
It has nothing in common, name one thing they share.
a86afc No.15354955
>>15354895
dragon's dogma was a trash game and dark arisen managed to make it even more terrible. lets not get confused here. the only reason this game isn't completely forgotten is because it allows you to create your own loli. people will lie to you saying the combat is good when it's not. it's nothing more than spamming usually one ability and curatives so you can continue spamming. climbing is a gimmick that's never used except when forced. magic is not practical and you'll only ever be using your staff charge ability since it's almost instant and shits out damage. dark arisen was "we want the dark souls audience" except just putting in a bunch of health sponge enemies that encouraged more spamming one singular attack and relying on that reset ability because you can't actually roll dodge attacks in dd. then they changed the loot system into a fucking slot machine and fuck dd and fuck dark arisen. i could still keep going on about the quests which were total shit as well, but i'm done. the game is a loli creator and that's it. that's the only thing it excels at. anyone who says the combat is good is a subhuman who can't tell the difference between flash and depth
b540e4 No.15355432
>>15354830
They've had a 3-year development cycle since Morrowind, with an additional year every time they're moving to a new console generation. Fallout 76 is coming out this year, so Starfield (which they've explicitly said is "next-gen") will almost certainly come out in 2022. Then another 3 years for TES6.
b1b116 No.15355468
5a1b5f No.15355472
>>15354948
I never got this picture:
You went into a game expecting another game and then you got a third game.
Just play fucking Dark Souls if you want to play Dark Souls
c2d4e8 No.15355475
>>15354747
It gets better once you level a bit on the vocation and get some actual combat skills.
>>15354948
That image reeks of Reddit
5a1b5f No.15355480
>>15355472
Like, Dragon's Dogma is not at all like Skyrim and it's sure as hell not at all like Dark Souls.
It's like saying Monster Hunter is like Lost Planet because you kill giant monsters.
24d13c No.15355482
>>15355472
It's bait, say something intentionally dumb and then jack off on anons calling you retarded.
45ecec No.15355550
>>15352848
I disagree about the caveman part but wanted to use it as an excuse to post cavegirls.
1cbfc6 No.15355594
I like Dragon's Dogma way more than Dark Souls. The mechanics feel way better and are more satisfying. Plus the art style is nice. Great day and night system.
ab9a3d No.15355610
>>15355594
>The mechanics feel way better
what the hell are you talking about?
>art style is nice.
completely generic fantasy art?
>Great day and night system.
great, are you 9yo?
ff1ccf No.15355617
>>15355550
>post cavegirls
moar
5b80e5 No.15355624
>>15355482
no, it's not bait. it's the truth that delusional dragon's smegma enthusiasts refuse to acknowledge. the game's combat has no more depth than skyrim
ef975c No.15355852
>>15352493
They did make a sequel and they did fuck it up by making it a horribly bad MMO that removed 90% of what made Dragon's Dogma fun
ffa66d No.15356674
>>15354895
>create your own loli
>not making a giant jolly negro warrior buddy named bobo
e961ab No.15356757
>>15355577
>berserk
>loli dressup moeshit
>NOT Idolmaster
8a653b No.15356777
>>15354753
mhW is shit, fuck of goy.
8a653b No.15356787
What was the sequel that was rumored and shown called?
b48450 No.15356963
>>15356777 (checked)
>goy
Did you get triggered shlomo?
00807a No.15356991
>>15356963
>no (Jew)
ebin comeback, normalcattle
1f0051 No.15357015
>>15352818
>x game was designed to have so much more, therefore x game is unfinished
Its called feature creep you dumb nigger and developers sometime need a deadline otherwise the project get unfocused and encumbered with trash. Just look at ARK or Star Citizen to see what happens when a eccentric developer ambition is not rained.
1f0051 No.15357021
907796 No.15357154
>>15355624
I like the game but I can agree with you there. The combat development felt rushed and more geared to fighting monsters than humans. Evasive moves feel useless and the counters are used by one class and only work with the boring humanoid enemies.
987247 No.15357230
It will be announced at the 2020 TGS. screencap this post.
b540e4 No.15359719
>>15356787
Are you talking about Deep Down?
858e9a No.15359738
Crapcom is too busy milking shekels from MHW. Poasting best husbando.
000000 No.15360368
>>15357154
>Evasive moves feel useless
Dodge roll is good given that it requires no stamina, doesn't waste a skill slot, and has i-frames in Dark Arisen. Hindsight Sweep is powerful when used correctly. Exodus Slash is a welcome crutch for some Warrior setups.
>counters are used by one class and only work with the boring humanoid enemies
They work on monsters too. Clairvoyance can parry/riposte a Cyclops, but doesn't get the followup round slash. Masterful Kill will be triggered by a Drake's tail swipe. Those are just the two I remember doing myself, but the counters should work on any melee attack that is not a grab.
0b707f No.15360421
Side question: Does anyone remember the name of that PS4 game that was shown a long time ago that everyone mistook for a Dragon's Dogma sequel at the beginning? It was online only and it had this weird time-stop mechanic and it had randomly generated dungeons.
It looked like a third-person Dragon's Dogma game.
ab4316 No.15361050
>>15360421
Literally a few posts above you. Deep Down.
8f5137 No.15361058
>>15355624
But you're wrong.
It does have a slightly deeper combat system
There are more special skills in here other than you make 25% more damage.
b540e4 No.15361111
>>15360421
>It looked like a third-person Dragon's Dogma game.
Dragon's Dogma is third-person.
eda158 No.15361116
>DD is closer to Demon Souls than it is Skyrim
What? No. It's not similar to Demon's Souls at all.
6063ff No.15361280
No.
What does Capcom make money with these days? Resident evil and DMC I think? Why give that up and sink money into an old cult game?
92ccc3 No.15361338
The only gameplay video I ever seen of Dragon Dogma was of a red dragon talking to some knight, meanwhile monsters were surrounding a jester. That's pretty much it.
9fe1ee No.15361343
>>15361280
>RE and DMC
>when it's not even their most selling IP
fucking kek, capcom's focused on mh now
304fb2 No.15361358
ede362 No.15361392
>>15352848
That's fine and all, but I still think the scattered dungeons, even the small ones that didn't really lead anywhere were the best part of the game for me. That feeling of not knowing what lies beyond the next turn or whether or not you're going to find something neat. That's what I've been looking for in a game and DD is the only one to hit the spot for me while also having good combat. Plus, it's not like there were all that many obstacles where you had to think like that in the game, you know?
f0de04 No.15361423
>>15361343
>when it's not even their most selling IP
What is it then? The reactions to both REmake2 and DNMCV were good, they'll probably both make top 5 games of 2019 assuming there isn't much competition in the way beyond NuDoom2 and I forget which other but the two conformable meme games of the year, and let's say Death Stranding actually comes out in 2019, then it still has 2 spots to fill with normal fag lists, it'll pay off and Capcom made a smart business decision giving them sequels and remakes and not Dragons Dogma.
04da20 No.15361435
>>15361423
>What is it then?
Re-read the post you just replied to.
f0de04 No.15361443
>>15361423
That is assuming NuDoom2 won't drop the ball.
04da20 No.15361718
>>15361443
How can it drop the ball when the first nuDoom didn't even hold the ball in the first place?
f0de04 No.15361777
>>15361718
For normalfags I mean, trust me I have a hunch NuDoom2 will be worse than the original.
c2d4e8 No.15361856
>>15361443
>>15361718
>>15361777
>implying nudoom dropped the ball at all
From Quora
>Doom began development in mid 2008 and most likely took about 65 million dollars to make. If you add in employee costs it’s about 90 million dollars.
>The game sold roughly a million copies at the end of August 2016 and at 60 dollars they were down 30 million by the end of that month. During the holiday season sales definitely increased. By the end of that year they sold about 3.6 million copies across all platforms bringing profits to at least 207 million dollars.
Sales don’t translate to good game, obviously, but you’re acting like it was a complete failure when it was competent enough to warrant a sequel.
ede362 No.15361891
>>15361856
>8 years
>for a game that's as limited and basic as nuDoom
>make roughly double the cost of what it took to make all things considered
Now imagine it being made by a properly managed, non-bloated dev team.
f0de04 No.15361896
>>15361856
>Profit=Quality
Back to Reddit.
f0de04 No.15361904
>>15361891
To be fair IdTech6 was made took a while to make and they had to redo the whole game.
04da20 No.15361915
>>15361856
I see "dropping the ball" as being not good, not selling badly. New WoW expansions always sell like hotcakes, yet consistently drop the ball and playercount after a month or two. Skyrim is one of the most sold games ever, yet I'm pretty sure everyone here agrees it dropped the ball, as did Oblivion.
6efcec No.15361984
What would Dragon's Dogma by Ninja Theory be like?:
https://archive.is/AEdfv
8f9085 No.15362319
>>15361984
>Ninja Theory is style incarnated.
I'm about to puke.
73b48e No.15365290
>>15361856
>$15 million employee costs
Does that include devs and the suits? Because that's a low as fuck number considering everything else cost $75 million. Ah, the vidya industry of today where the largest cost component is either marketing costs or retarded shit like bonuses for the suits.
7ff2b2 No.15365312
>>15352848
>image
Needs bunny ears
99f456 No.15365317
>>15361891
No wonder they are managing to shit a sequel in less than three years.
b48450 No.15365327
>>15361984
I don't even want to think about it.
>>15362319
Itsuno also said that DmC is his favorite DMC game. That is very worrying.
But I think DMC5 is going to turn out fine, Itsuno is probably taking the only salvageable ideas into the game and incorporating it into DMC5.
70d937 No.15365366
>>15354895
>Completely miss the point
>Wrote wall of text about just how much you missed the point
Ah, the wonders of unbridled autism.
730d3b No.15367450
>>15354674
Can you play that without a VPN on PC? I remember at least the PS3 version being region locked.
a3ba15 No.15368031
What is the recommended level for BBI anyway? I'm level 74 and I'm getting my shit pushed in by just about everything. Elder ogres are drop kicking me into oblivion and I was raped in the cathedral. Major enemies are basically just one shotting me. Do I need better equipment or do I need to git gud?
04da20 No.15368138
>>15368031
>the recommended level for BBI
Level 1
0808f2 No.15368185
>>15367450
no, still fucking jap ip only
b97867 No.15368213
>>15361280
slot machines, really
c96097 No.15368279
>>15368031
The recommended level is having some decent gear and probably at least 100. A lot of stuff in BBI just hits hard though. Make sure you upgrade/dragonforge your gear.
8f43dc No.15368337
>>15368279
I started BBI at level 50 and did fine. He just needs to git gud.
34a1bc No.15368344
>>15361280
Monster Hunter world has shifted over 10mil units.
3878f2 No.15368380
>>15361670
>tfw no heartless, scarred-chested qt loli gf
2cf8ae No.15368416
>>15368344
>normalcattle likes to eat shit
What a revelation.
8f43dc No.15368437
>>15368416
You say the word "like" as if they are sapient. They don't have likes because they lack the mental capacity to experience the world.
ff2f9a No.15368539
>>15355610
>what the hell are you talking about?
He means it's more satisfying to swing your Zweihänder on a horde of goblins.
>completely generic fantasy art?
Are you too fucking dumb to understand that games have different graphical art designs?
>great, are you 9yo?
The transitions are nice,
are you a nigger?
661b00 No.15368569
>>15361777
If the campaign is much much longer than the original game I will buy it full price. I fucking loved NuDoom. Bite me.
777efd No.15369053
>>15361984
>Would Capcom ever consider ever working on a sequel to DmC with Ninja Theory, or some other project?
<We love those guys. We’d love to be able to work with them again someday. But they’re under the Microsoft umbrella now, right? [laughs] So we’d have to clear that up with them first.
Ha ha ha shut the fuck up Itsuno
b2419e No.15369469
>>15355550
>picture 2 & 3
Jesus Christ, I need more of this.
ddb592 No.15369521
>>15352402
The MMO is decent. It's still got all the boss-climbing goodness and some new classes. Gameplay wise, it stays pretty true, it doesn't just do MMO gameplay with a DD skin. There are some unofficial guides out there on how to play it in English and all.
f0de04 No.15369630
>>15368569
>I love NuDoom, bite me
1. Kill yourself.
2. If my hunch is right you won't once 2 comes outl.
eb85f0 No.15370069
>>15369630
See, the thing is, the original doom wasn't that good i.e. literal perfection like you think it is. I know that nudoom doesn't play like the original, but if you think it's shit, then you have no right to say the original game was good, or any game for that matter
709597 No.15370107
>>15370069
>actually defending master chief in hell
>throwing a better game under the bus to do so
ab4316 No.15370222
>>15368437
> lack the mental capacity to experience the world
That's not how normalfags work. They are the ones who go out into the world and enjoy it, whether that be sports, camping, traveling or the far more common MUH DICK clubbing, we're the ones who stay inside and behind a screen.
47af07 No.15370244
>>15361392
That's kinda what I meant, you can either plan to go somewhere and get surprised along the way, or wander and get surprised, this is an adventure, not a super planned special op, but on the part
>Plus, it's not like there were all that many obstacles where you had to think like that in the game, you know?
There was getting to the Goblin fortress, do you go under the mountain and face ogres? Around the mountain which is longer and get assaulted by a Chimera on the mountain pass? Actually be intelligent and do a detour around the Chimera on the plain where you only get a small chance of getting assaulted by a Gryphon if the Gryphon is even unlocked but then you also have to wander around and avoid the dragon in the forest, which may be unavoidable to a first player.
e9c480 No.15370253
>>15370222
Hungry ghosts do not 'enjoy', they crave, and nihilism is rampant among them. We stay inside because there is nothing out there to offer our type, who are nourished from the inner world. Unfortunately, many of this group waste their time jacking themselves off with resentful self-loathing and not looking inwards to understand their type, due to no guidance from the longterm cultural structures we used to have in place.
47af07 No.15370263
>>15370222
Normalfags are numbing their senses as we are numbing our dopamine receptors to the point where I fucking swear they are no longer normal by any principled senses. I've never seen more lack of meaning as in normalfags but of course that's all in accordance to the traps gifts left by the Chosen.
eb85f0 No.15370699
>>15370107
>throwing a better game under the bus to do so
Huh? No I didn't
6a0dc6 No.15370774
>>15354948
So, you got what you expected?
659e50 No.15371639
>>15354948
This.
Reddit's Dogma is a boring button mash fest with shitty MMORPG-tier fetch quests, empty open world and shit story, just like Skyrim. The only reason faggots on this board like it is because "muh lolis".
31deea No.15372366
>>15368138
This nigger knows what's up. Going into BBI as early as possible and beating it twice solo as an assassin without coming back to the mainland is some of the most fun that I ever had in a video game. I suggest you at least cheat yourself a godsbane though, to make farming chests and getting proper cursed items less tedious.
77a9b0 No.15373071
ff2f9a No.15373131
I'm currently playing and just noticed, that all the armor you wear are actually on top of the naked skeleton of your char, they are actually clothes.
Are there anymore secrets you guys know about DD, it seems whenever i return i find new little stuff.
>>15354948
>>15370774
>>15371639
>>15354948
Samefag more you unfunny retard.
310de5 No.15379952
>>15352402
SOON™
About time, I donated that game to CCG last year or so I think.
c5f2d4 No.15380480
>>15373131
>mfw my question triggered you
I'm not as funny as you, that's true enough.
0775ec No.15380526
>>15379952
Oh shit I remember these guys. They actually came here if I remember right. That and they do pretty good game reviews.
018762 No.15380563
>>15352402
>Will we ever get a proper sequel to Dragon's Dogma?
I hope to god we do, I don't know what they where thinking when they made the next game a shitty MMO.
If we ever see a proper sequel they could build up on the foundation the first one's combat layed down among other things.
>classes that can use Reset actually playing like a fighting game character
>Sorcerers actually having few more quick options aside from fuckhuge CGI shitstorms
>Magick Archer/Mystic Knight not being so spammy and OP
>Warriors actually getting 3 more ability slots
>more incentive to use other attacks, instead of just spamming the optimal one
>more weapon types, like polearms
>being able to have a caravan
>less rng loot
>2 OR MORE PLAYERS COOP MULTIPLAYER HOLYSHIT
and the most important one:
>leaving the character creator EXACTLY how it is aside from more options
Shit's amazing. Simple enough that you can make a character and start playing in no time, yet somehow complex enough you can make literally make any fantasy race, of any age, of any height with any proportions.
6f9a8e No.15380594
>>15380563
>leaving the character creator EXACTLY how it is aside from more options
It needs at least the original's options plus the options they added in DDO.
fa0b0c No.15380646
So is there any way to play a fast 2h character a la the Witcher games or do all the 2h weapons handle like barbells all the time? I switched the first chance I got because I love huge swords but found it boring as shit because of how slow it was.
b8b8c3 No.15381269
>>15380646
Unfortunately no. The point of warrior is that you hit hard, but slow & limited. Althought I like the concept of a heavy armored with two-handed weapons, Warrior is not my favourire class in DDD because weapons are too big to my tastes, compared to your size, and the gameplay is not bad, but I enjoyed the others vocations more. Its is still awesome to almost one-hit kill monsters when doing it right, thought.
6c55e5 No.15383361
Did anybody ever put together a formula for a convincing Valmiro doppelganger? He'd make for a good pawn.
3a4b1d No.15383534
>>15380646
don't use the arc or savage slash skills. Fuck charging shit up
Warrior actually becomes pretty fluid once you get the hang of it. It relies heavily on it's core attacks, especially it's jumping ones and requires augments to support them (Eminence and Ferocity).
Indomitable Lunge and Exodus Slash are both skills you can control. You can cancel the lunge early and the second part of Exodus Slash is optional which means you have a skill with a monstrous amount of i-frames that comes out really quick.
Warrior really becomes cash money once you get Iraklis, a sword you can buy from Mountebank I believe that has a chance to crit for 4x damage or something. But, it's not totally necessary. It'll just smooth out the progression bumps along the way.
3c5ea0 No.15384420
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If DMC5 does well probably. It's what Itsuno wants to do after DMC5 is done. DD is his baby.
79df4b No.15391829
Dragon's Dogma died for DmC 2