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If I want to get all the DLC at a later date, am I better off getting the season-pass now, or waiting until it's all out and nabbing it then?

I've enjoyed my time so much with it I'm gonna restart with all the shit.

There actually needs to be an appearance slot on character because the only purpose of these swimsuits is for one. specific. challenge.

>>15350423

Monolith Soft needs to do this, but they either will do this later or are too busy, with other projects such as the new game they are making.

>>15350455

I'd need to check but I believe you get them over time.

Thank FRICK it's not the meme chink potato loli!

But the Torna DLC is dropping pretty soon.

I came to this thread to call x shit

X is shit

>>15350566

That reminds me, how long is the Torna DLC? 20 hours? 40 hours?

>>15350589

Yeah, especially the localization.

>>15350630

I think around 40ish?

>>15350589

Elma is the only good thing to come out of X. Alien in disguise or not, she is best waifu in X.

>>15350346

One thing that strikes me as odd is that there's no player character from X. Perhaps they realized it was a dumb idea? Makes me wonder how they're gonna handle it in X2.

>>15350414

>lower back gap isn't Zohar-shaped

YOU HAD ONE JOB

Anyone know how big the sept update is gonna be? I dread needing to upgrade my sd this early, especially as an avoider of digital when possible.

>>15350414

What other characters have swimsuits?

ANSWER ME, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>>15350630

We'll know once it comes out

>>15350435

It's probably not gonna happen, the last update comes with the Torna expansion.

>>15350776

Rex, Nia,Tora, Morag (the best one), Zeke, Pyra, Mythra, Poppi Alpha, Brighid, and Pandoria. There only use is for one fucking challenge the costumes came with.

>>15350805

>>15350776

SHOW ME THE WELSH CAT IN A SWIMSUIT

>>15350885

I'm sorry, anon, it's the worst one.

>>15350864

>using hooktube

anon, I…

>>15350780

cocktease

>>15350864

>hooktube

>not converting to webm or using invidious

>>15350928

Why would they give her such a shitty one? Her normal outfits look more like swimwear than that. Are they trolling?

>>15351241

They did it because

FUCK WALES

>>15350805

I unironically hope mods will fix it

>>15351440

I miss Morag worship posts.

>>15351241

Probably because if she had a cute one, it would amplify her accent, and no one would be able to hide their boner.

The devs literally saved the world from seeing your tiny wood. You should be thankful.

>>15350346

One thing that strikes me as odd is the lack of normal bikinis. I wonder why they did that?

>>15350936

What happened?

>>15352526

Because I didn't pay good money for the season pass to just have "normal bikinis".

>>15352690

Play the uncensored version on cemu,

>>15351937

I worship her and Oda Nobunaga but I don't have any pics. Sorry.

>>15350663

X is not in the same universe, it has nothing to do with clauth n'shiet

>>15352701

What's the suggested GPU?

>>15352835

I think any GPU should be fine.

>>15352690

No it's a complete waste of time

-Story doesn't make any sense and you keep asking yourself obvious question that should be answered at the prologue but they cockblock you until 20% of the game to tell you about obvious shit, the character sucks everyone of them especially the nopon.

-Gameplay infinite overdrive and you can roll over the game, mecha are not fun at all.

-Soundtrack is a shitshow written by chinkniggers and you add a shitty sound designer that put voiced music in combat, so you can be even more pissed off when you farm.

-Worldbuilding there are 2 cities wich are absolute garbage in xeno 1/2 every city was comfy were you can feel like home, here it looks like your everyday post commie architecture.

Oh and the cats are not available as characters.

<my english sucks

>>15352846

The cancer (((localisation))) really did not help either.

>XB2

>main game

Ha ha.

No.

XB2 is shit.

Suck dicks niggers.

>>15351440

to bad she is fucking flat

>>15353490

Wait Microsoft announced Xbox 2?

>>15353504

You have no appreciation for Morag's abs.

>>15352620

Asshole threw ads onto it for shekels and jewtube went up his ass and forced him to use the ID settings that basically makes hooktube jewtube now.

Use invidio.us, just don't embed it.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=7xgjM3MqqWM

>>15354942

Greedy kike.

>>15352690

No, it is a pile of occasional interesting stuff, retarded design decisions, and wasted potential.

How many of you have beaten Elma yet?

I pirated this, and I was waiting until all the worthwhile updates come out to add them. Do you think the Torna DLC will be the last major update? Because I'll probably get it on the 14th or 15th anyway, it would just be convenient if I don't have to do it again. Jamming a paperclip down my joycon rail and plugging my Switch into the computer is mildly inconvenient.

>>15356530

> the last major update

With how well the game and it's updates have been doing I think they'll give us more updates.

>>15352690

>>15352846

>>15353000

>>15354966

I disagree with the mechs not being fun but apart form that spot on.

>>15356572

It really depends. Do you like doing lots of damage fast? You're better on foot. Do you like making your auto attack weapon so overpowered it crashes the game? You'll love the mechs.

>>15351440

There's not gonna be of this is there?

>>15356572

Mechs were kinda fun.

>>15351273

saved

>>15359822 (checked)

how are these game connected to Xenosaga/Xeno gears? is this KOS-MOS the same one from the other games?

>>15360060

end game spoilers if you care.

The Zohar literally came into the world of Xenoblade and made a scientist into a god

>>15360066

so its basically another universe/timeline cop-out? and the android girls (in this game) are pretty much just like the summons FF/KH?

>>15353786

>morag's abs

eh? i dont see shit.

>>15360060

>is this KOS-MOS the same one from the other games?

nope

>>15360097

>and the android girls (in this game) are pretty much just like the summons FF/KH?

the artificial blades made by the jews are actually android girlsand the only girls that are not used goods, the blades are something like summons that actually collect data from all thier drivers who use them, the whole thing is the NSA wet dream of surveillance, but the architect doesnt do shit with it

>>15360097

Posted this in the last thread, but it fell off too soon. Xenogears, Xenosaga and Xenoblade are all officially in different universes due to different companies holding the rights to them. The connections are limited to the conceptual level, the Zohar being the biggest one along with some other stuff like the Wave Existence and the mech designs. But the timeline of Xenosaga fits the Xenogears timeline.

For someone that hates most JRPG's in general except for the Mario RPG's, should I get Xenoblade Chronicles 1, X or 2? Running out of games to play

>>15361527

If you're running out of games to play, then stop buying Nintendo consoles.

>>15350414

>>15361224

That is a very nice ass for a Jap game. It always disappoints me when they just make them flat back there, Neptunia is especially bad about that.

>>15361527

If you don't like JRPGs then you won't like Xenoblade anon.

>>15361600

Does this game encourage interactive skill-based reflex combat or is it just going through menus most of the time? I saw from some gameplay that attacks have a lot of menus so that concerns me.

>>15361616

You have to go into each fight prepared and how to set up a elemental combo, it's not turn based as this video shows.

>>15361640

Looks like I'm gonna emulate XC1 first to get a general feel of the game first before getting XC2.

>>15361652

Tell us how it goes.

What's the ship name for Zeke x Morag?

Bringer of Bringer?

>>15361616

Well it depend how you want to play it.

You will past all of the game jerking off because of how easy it is and the whole campagn can take 60 hours if you rush it.

Check tutorial about auto attack cancel and you will see the gameplay can be pretty dynamic if you want to perfect everything, small tips if you want to artificialy increase the difficulty of the game don't take rest xp and don't bash every mob you see try to always stay 3 level under the common mobs you encounter ( until you are in a boss fight then you can allow yourself 1 or 2 level if you're to much underleveled)

>>15352690

it's ok. not a complete waste of your time but it's not great either. the localization was fucking horrible but the game itself isn't bad

Whats the point of the terrain damage reduction on the blade swimsuits?

>>15364898

7 years after Xenoblade 1, the AI still wants to stand in acid and there's no "you stand here" button.

When you guys play Tiger! Tiger! To get crystals for Poppi do you play easy or normal? I play normal because playing easy puts me to sleep and makes me hit shit.

>>15361652

I have 30 some hours in XC1. I just got into alcamonth. I still have no idea what the fuck I am doing combat wise. I get the break-topple-daze shit, but a certain somebody doesn't always do topple after my break.

So now I am playing as melia as my main. Cute girls doing cute things.

>>15364985

But the blades don't take damage.

>>15366409

2 made the whole topple and break thing much better and more coherent.

>>15361616

The battle system has a really low skill floor and a high skill ceiling. You can get through the story not using any mechanics and just randomly spamming arts.

I have 300 hours into the game building up blades and stuff, the Elma Redux challenge battle took me 30 minutes to beat on easy after a few hours of trying, I wasn't even close to beating it on normal. I can usually destroy everything else in the game, even things most people have trouble with. But there's some serious difficulty in XC2 if you really want to seek it. It really just depends on if you want to go through the story and coast, or if you want to learn the battle system and get better at it for all the post-game content.

>>15352690

It's great if you love exploring. The story is weak, characters are annoying (thanks to the shit localization by NoA), and the battle system isn't as good as the one in XC2. There's rumors of a remastered version coming for Switch, if they unfuck the localization and polish the game up a bit, it could be worth it if you are looking for something more than just exploring some alien world and making a living there. It has MMO quests, battle system is far more MMOish than XC2, a bit shallower, and some people really dislike the music (it's done by Hiroyuki Sawano who does a lot of big anime OSTs).

I liked the game, but it's clear it was Monolith's first real attempt at a giant open world game. I think they've laid a good foundation for an open world spin off for Xenoblade series, but they should be able to do a lot better if there's a XCX2.

>>15368295

Both, you'll find quests to do along the way, but a lot of the DLC is for post game. I believe you can do challenge mode before clearing the story, but you're going to have a hard time, even on easy, without a well rounded team.

>>15360066

>made into a god

More like Klaus ruined the Earth for everyone and Zohar fucked off to some other place/time

I spent most of yesterday crying in other places that I'd never get a Rare Blade again, and certainly never get KOS-MOS.

Today, I got two consecutive Rare Blades, the first being KOS-MOS.

I hated xenoblade 2 so much I physically harmed myself during its cutscenes. I just need someone to release me at this point

So anyone managed to figure out how to take Poppi for a walk in dog mode yet?

>>15371081

Not unlocked him yet but people are saying you can cheese it by putting Corvin on Zeke and spamming his aoe attack that evades, all the evades will instantly recharge it due to his passive. Will probably work on Morag too but she has no aoe attacks with him.

>>15372971

>Zeke

Wow, I ended up giving him Corvin because I didn't research what kind of Blade he was. If I had known he was a tank, I'd have put him on Morag, but putting him on Zeke is actually freaking broken like that?

I might have to give that a shot.

>>15374594

Zeke can be really fucking broken if done right.

Guess I have to look at the core affinity of the characters to decide when to use precious overdrive protocols. Or just wait until I unlock all core affinity nodes before rolling. I have the most shit luck with rolling the right rare blades on the right characters.

I really want to transfer a rare knuckles Blade from Nia to Morag, since my Rex pulled Nim and my Nia pulled Adenine, Kora and Ursula.

Now hear me out, I know Morag isn't supposed to be a healer, but she starts with WP in knuckles and I'm not concerned with min-maxing, just giving my rare Blades enough attention and trying out different arts.

Which one should I transfer? I'm leaning towards Adenine, because my Nia uses Boreas a lot and I prefer to engage Blades of different elements whenever possible.

I can’t wait until I finish XC2 so I can put it on my shelf and never play it again. What a completely boring mess of a game.

>fill out all poppi affinity charts

>Tora is now a brick wall with spikes

Why is tora such a fucking beast? Even threw poppi alpha the dilaton chip and the Ultimate Shield for maximum cheese.

>>15351241

Because catgirls don't like to get wet, she has a sundress cause she just wants to lay in the sun all day.

>>15382286

I end up using knuckles for more DPS than heals most of the time. I know they spawn potions but running around to collect potions wastes time you could use to hit enemies. Also if you're on top of a slope then forget about grabbing potions. NPCs can grab them but I'm min/maxing the shit out of my stats to overkill singleplayer. I end up using blade specials or rings/balls to heal more anyway. Plus driver combos that topple > launch > smash spawn bigger potions anyway.

>>15384246

I already know all that.

>>15384246

>Also if you're on top of a slope then forget about grabbing potions.

>only way to keep alive was getting potions

>they keep falling of the cliff

i hate gravity.

>>15384289

>fight large monsters

>potions soar off into the horizon

I just hate the concept behind potions

>>15384285

My lazy answer is use whichever rare blade with specials sync well with Brighid's fire for fusions. Wind, earth, and water seem like a good start. Forget Korra.

I'm new to game so I don't know blades in and out. Morag's primary role is also a tank (Dunban Agility tank, the best kind of tank). So you'll probably want whichever blade with blade arts that complement frontal assaults. Morag's going to be fighting head on. So unless you're tank switching you'll probably want blades for burst specials and heals.

>>15384285

Give her Adenine. Kora sucks ass and Ursula is actually a good healer blade unlike most of the other knuckles. Adenine is one of the least healy healer blades (Crossette is the least, as a crypto ATK blade considering how much dps she can shit out on someone with a good ball moveset like Zeke) and she has fringe benefits in the form of her passive weakness damage up and treasure sensor equivalent. Ideally I'd put her on Rex but if you want to have a knuckle on Morag that's probably the best choice of those.

If you're going to be doing that though, I recommend playing as her, it's a pain in the ass to give her a non-tank blade because she will absolutely switch to it at the worst moments. The party AI in this game is abysmal.

New XBC2:TTGC trailer.

Interesting new shit

-Mythra appears to be using Pneuma's sword

-Mythra's specials are different, she has Pyra's lv3 in this

-Minoth has really unique animations which is nice considering the rest of the blades are all reused assets

-Lora has punches and kicks and they're really cute

-More combat footage, it looks like there's a little more guidance as to wtf you're doing in combos and whatnot, probably good because most people who played XBC2 never fully figured out orbs or other core game mechanics

>>15374594

double post but yeah Zeke is absolutely busted with Corvin becuase he gets an AOE/Evade up attack that you can easily build so you can chain it into itself and just be unhittable and doing aoe damage to everything. It's the way to cheese the Elma fight for free if you can't be bothered to deal with her ghost factory bullshit.

>>15387156

Looks good

>>15387247

So, Nia kitten?

>>15387345

I do, but I also just want to see pics of baby kitty Nia.

>>15368360

>XCX apologist in this thrwad

NO

the game is shit. Stop lying to people. NoA shitty localization doesn't even matter in the face of the other problems the game has.

>>15387156

Am I seeing this wrong, or are the Drivers and Blades fighting completely independently? I mean, maybe a Blade will power up their Driver, but the Drivers themselves aren't wielding the Blades?

>Finished chapter 2.

>Made it to Crown Summit.

>See skeeters at level 37-40.

>Currently level 28 (did some leveling while RNG says fuck you with tri-color rock).

>Never used inn to level.

>Got decent weapon chips.

>Have 2 shit blades 'cause I'm holding off blade resonating until Zeke.

>Sure I'll risk the low procs.

>Successfully bait and kill first skeet.

>River titan snake dragon says "lol u fag gut skeet on".

>Oh shit.

>Chain attack second skeeter because RIP party gague.

>Recieve pentagon chip.

>Over 300 attack on Pyra.

>+50 luck.

How badly did I break the game?

>>15393430

It's a separate game that you can buy without XB2. You have the option to buy the expansion pack for XB2 that gives items, 6 new blades, challenge mode, new quests, new merc missions, and you get the Torna game.

>>15393449

so torna is a seperate game no matter what, i.e will appear as another game on my profile

>>15393455

Yes. You do not need the base game.

>>15393458

Okay, I'll just get the physical release then

>>15393458

Whether there will be rewards for the base game remains to be seen.

>>15393865

I also forgot to mention that Nia can just use non-gacha Vess which is a wonderfully braindead healer that even her AI won't fuck up that much.

Honestly it's so weird that people are so constantly furious about gacha when in reality, only one character actually makes extensive use of gacha blades. It's only an issue if you're a 100% autist and it doesn't even take that much effort to get them. I think after 50 hours of play (completed story in 46) I'm only missing Nim, Zenobia and KOS-MOS. I've heard of some people having 150+ without having all of them which just seems retarded to me. KOS-MOS odds aren't even THAT bad, you have about a 50/50 chance of pulling her when going through a stack of legendary crystals with a max luck Zeke.

>>15387156

Any news on the game size?

>>15394122

We all think around 40 hours.

>>15387156

Is Morag's brother in this? Haven't been following this dlc and it's ages since I played the game, but I wasn't aware that he didn't age.

>>15394698

Just looked it up. Apparently his name is Hugo, and he's basically the same character: a young emperor.

Does anyone else find it odd that both Nia and Pyra/Mythra basically just watch as Vandham needlessly kills himself when they both could have protected him? Also that this is never mentioned - like Rex doesn't say to Mythra 'could have done with this awakening of yours about two minutes ago', or to Nia 'you were too embarrassed about your identity to save Vandham's life?'.

>>15394768

Them being deathly afraid of using their power is a central theme to both characters

>>15393908

Don't forget Crossette if you get the DLC.

>>15393908

Yeah, the gacha mechanic is technically optional, it doesn't deserve so much rage. I don't like it, I hope it doesn't return in sequels (gacha skells?), but there are more than enough named core crystals for every character. Just look up a guide for where they are (I completely missed the Theory/Praxis quest in my first playthrough) and you'll be fine.

>>15395982

Any opinion on using Tora and Poppi? Because I plan to pretty much drop Nia after I get Morag and Zeke.

>>15396903

Depends how long you can stand playing the minigame for crystals.

If the Architect had made fully-upgraded Poppis instead of Aegises there would be no survivors.

>>15397285

I presume if the Architect had his way KOS-MOSes and T-ELOSes would be more like Poppi. But higher beings are assholes.

>>15395982

Touche. I don't really have much of an argument there. Makes me wonder if I should try to customize the Poppi series into healers.

>>15397492

Poppi doesn't have the blade arts or weapons to be a good party healer in any form I think. At best you'll be relying on parts that spawn potions and potions are pretty fucky with physics. And you'll be spawning pots with driver combos and blade specials anyway.

Unless you're going with a Luck Mod which makes Tora practically immune to debuffs. I should look into a Luck Mod build for fun.

>>15397513

That really doesn't leave me with good options. Either I personally play the healer, or I keep Nia in the party at all times. I unfortunately can't trust the AI to properly handle non-pure builds.

>>15397540

Playing the healer means chasing potions and wasting time not hitting the enemy to build up blade specials to fuse into orbs for chain attacks. You can do that with a good break > topple party without sacrificing too much damage.

So far a lot of enemies have a "kill timer" where if you don't kill them within X amount of time you risk them unleashing an AoE super move that routs your entire party at once regardless of party gague remaining. If you want to heal then you're going to need to do as much damage as you can. AI sucks at this. So if you want a deticated healer then you HAVE to play healer.

>>15393908

No, KOS-MOS is bullshit. You need her to complete a few quests and to complete Elma's affinity chart. I've gone through several stacks of rares and a few legendary stacks and KOS-MOS is the only gacha I don't have.

Kinda makes me sad having to hold out on spending my core crystals until I get Zeke. So give all optional story cores to Morag, the rest to Zeke, and never use Nia?

why did they take such a cartoony look with the 2nd game?

>>15397990

I should probably elaborate on pity blade counters thing I mentioned, basically every save file, at creation, is assigned one of five probability tables for blade pulls. Each of these tables has 3 blades that it will give you based on a point system, with common crystals being worth 5 points, rares worth 25 points and legendaries worth 50 points. You get a pity blade at 100, 200 and 300 points, with the pity counter being reset every time it gives you a blade. The following are your potential pity blades depending on which probability table your file is on. Getting one of these blades from a common crystal is a very strong indicator that you're on a certain probability table, because most of them are lower probability blades within the tables that assign them as pity blades:

1 - Godfrey, Agate, Boreas

2 - Perceval, Azami, Adenine

3 - Gorg, Perun, Electra

4 - Kora, Nim, Finch

5 - Vale, Ursula, Floren

If you REALLY want to know what column you're on if you release a suspected pity blade the point system will give it back to you at 500 points.

https://pastebin.com/raw/dzuxLqGy

is the raw probabilities for each table, spoiler warning ofc if you care about that.

I also forgot to mention idea levels, get 15 Justice on Zeke to maximize your KOS-MOS odds. At 999 luck, using a legendary crystal and with 15 Justice you have a 0.714% chance to pull her which is actually higher than your unmodified chance of pulling Agate on table 5.

>>15398100

1. The Switch is a glorified handheld and cell shading is the best way to make a game look good on weak hardware

2. Xenoblade 1 was originally not going to be a Xenogame, Takahashi wanted a departure from the more animu heavy styles of gears and saga, only later did Nintendo tell him to call the game Xenoblade instead of his original title, Monado. Xenoblade X was also not really oriented towards the old games. Xenoblade 2 is largely a return to form, bringing the zohar back and retroactively bringing it into 1 and also going with a more stylized, animu art direction.

I personally think that Xenoblade 1 and X renders were really ugly and didn't translate the style of the art the games were based on into 3d very well. The way they chose to render characters in 2 pretty much objectively looks better than 1/X. The art direction as a whole though, that's an iffier proposition especially as far as characters go due to the dozens of guest artist designs that make little effort to "fit in" with the rest of the world. Character design wasn't always great in 1/X but it's downright schizophrenic in 2.

>>15398166

Monolith should get more Japanese porn artists to do more character art. Also I'm guessing rare blades are the red 5* like Electra and Boreas and those don't matter?

Just finished BotW and i'm looking for another game. Do I HAVE to play XB1? I want to read the spreadsheets, but spoilers. The only thing I know about XC1 is that

shulk is god..?

>>15399068

Not at all, XBC2 plugs the biggest plotholes in 1 and makes the game retroactively better in how it connects to the first game but the game's links to 1 are minimal.

>>15398513

All blades that aren't one of the random commons or main story blades (ie, ones you can't remove from your party until NG+) are rare but just being a rare blade doesn't mean the blade is good, in fact a good 4* chroma katana common is better than the majority of the rare tank blades. Commons can also have useful field/battle skills like treasure sensor and elemental masteries. The abilities that commons have are semi-random themselves so ironically your common blades are often more unique than the rare ones which are identical game to game.

If you're talking story, basically every rare blade has their own quest and many of them have unique field skills.

>>15399068

To clarify the previous comment, whether you play 2 or 1 first doesn't matter that much because they tie in together very, very late in each of their respective stories, and the second one you play will give you a similar "oh shit" realization (and an OH SHIT realization if you played Gears/Saga).

The games actually take place concurrently, 2 is not actually a sequel to 1 but another story in another universe that is happening at the same time as the events in 1.

>>15399503

>>15399786

I have a question then. I'm not asking to be linked now, but would there be a simple youtube video that shows the link between the two?

>>15399799

Basically yeah, there are lots of little things towards the end of 2 but there's one really fucking big one in a cutscene right before the final boss that's basically the "okay if you didn't get it now here it is spelled out for you"

Some people still didn't get it after that.

>>15399068

XB1 is pretty good. Clearly, it was good enough for a second helping. The areas are fucking huge. I'm trying to finish it (50 hrs, about 60% done) so I can get fully into 2.

>>15400131

My only problem with the game is you end up breaking the combat way faster while in XB2 you don't really have the tools to crack the game wide open until postgame.

>There no porn of Morag in a swimsuit

I'd say I'm disappointed, but I didn't expect shit to happen anyway.

>>15401524

This is why I've became a chronic "Save about 10 times before I shut off the thing" for RPGs. I forgot to save on in a pokemon game, and I lost like 2 fucking hours.

>>15397554

>Playing the healer means chasing potions and wasting time not hitting the enemy to build up blade specials to fuse into orbs for chain attacks.

Those are the two new combat mechanics in Xenoblade 2 I really dislike. There was nothing wrong with arts recharging over time. Now if an enemy keeps blocking your auto-attacks, you can't use your arts, you can't use your specials, you miss the timer for combos, and your chain attacks are shorter as a direct result of that cascading failure.

Maybe there's a couple of rare Blades that can mitigate block rate with auto-attacks, I don't know, but there certainly aren't any accessories or aux cores that can.

So is Wulfric better on Rex or Zeke? I know for Rex lances give him Break but Zeke has Smash which Wulfric takes advantage of.

>>15402420

Zeke is slow as shit with lances. Use Morag, who gets smash and is much faster .Until you get Patroka in NG+ who will then outclass Wulfric

>>15402476

>>15402420

As a rule

Rex: Knuckles, his exclusive weapons, certain unique blade weapons (Fiora, some of the NG+ blades)

Morag: Katanas, Lances, her exclusives (technically also hammers but hammers fucking suck)

Zeke: Everything else

Nia sucks with everything and is only useful as a healslut in the earlygame when you don't have everyone set up to keep themselves alive. She has the highest ETH of any character but her movesets are just worse. The best you can do with her is an ether cannon build from a damage perspective but she's still worse at it than Zeke.

>>15397990

I went through 60 legendary cores tonight, with 999 luck on Rex. Still nothing. I have over 300 hours in this game, if I don't get it tomorrow night I'm done until Torna. I've managed to acquire over 30 4 star common blades in the meantime. This is gay as fuck, guess I'll never have a maxed out Elma.

>>15402604

>the dub is shit

yeah welcome to 99% of Japanese content. 1 was one of the few games that actually had a good dub and that was mostly because the dub wasn't being done concurrently and English VAs had direction and could listen to how the JP dub sounded. They also had better talent, like the girl who voices Pyra/Mythra who between them definitely have the most lines in the game's previous notable work was on a fucking lego game. I don't know why they don't just hire theater actors for this shit, there are tons of them you can get cheap who are significantly better than 90% of video game voice actors.

>important audio cues in combat

not really, it's mostly cute banter. Providing subs would be an absolute clusterfuck in an already bloated UI because in a typical battle more than one person is talking at any given time and at least 70% combat 'dialogue' is DABBU SPINNING EDGE!'

If anything, complain about how mangled and censorship ridden the English translation in general is. All references to god and as many references to religion as were possible were removed and tons of the heart to hearts were completely mangled some to the point that they don't even make sense anymore. Like there's one with PoppiQTpi in the world tree where she reveals that Tora has programmed her for petplay and in English all of the text is translated to "woof woof!" and it's played off as so randumb xD humor. There are pretty significant liberties taken with the translation and not all of it is even censorship related.

>>15402604

>combat which has important audio cues

Which game are you playing?

>>15402852

At least you aren't trying to shill your shit video anymore.

>>15403288

It's an affinity thing; it builds trust faster and is required for a lot of skills.

http://xenoblade.wikia.com/wiki/Pouch

>>15404619

>you generally need to be in NG+ to hit 999 to unequip your story blade

You can cheat it by removing story blades on rex when he becomes the master driver. Assigning a story blade to him can force unequip it from the others, allowing for the free third slot for a luck blade.

>>15404732

Fuck, I forgot about that, good catch.

>Rolling a few common blades to get past the affinity check in Mor Ardain at chaper 3.

>Rex rolls Godfrey.

I know Godfrey sucks but come the fuck on.

>>15404766

Welcome to probability table 1 comrade, fringe benefits include a high likelihood of pulling Ursula which means you'll get her earlier and be on that 30ish hours of merc mission grind that much faster.

>>15402604

>that sin of a dub

but thats the best part.

>>15404776

So unless I get stupid luck I'll never see any of the interesting blades then. Ah well, pretty much putting this game down after main story for a bit until Torna DLC to play something else. Unless post game has some interesting story bits.

>>15404848

NG+ has a couple of the torna cunts as blades you can get, and I think they are far more common than the other rares. Plus you can break the game even further with more trait unlocks and a 3rd accessory slot.

>>15404848

>stupid luck

not really. Do the farm method I posted in and you'll probably have all but one or two of the rare blades in maybe 4 hours of play postgame. Most of the actually interesting blades, from a story/character perspective, are quest blades and not gacha anyways. Gameplay wise most of the gacha blades generally aren't that great other than Zenobia and KOS-MOS who have the same probability in all of the tables except 2 where Zenobia is 3x more likely than the others.

Again, with max luck you have about a 50% chance of pulling KOS-MOS from a stack of 99 legendary cores, more if you also factor in the 99 rares you get alongside them. It takes less than an hour to farm 99/99 once you're set up for it. I'm at 70 hours, wasn't especially lucky, and have every non-NG+ blade now. I've heard some horror stories of people having 150+ hours without finding one or two but honestly I suspect they're just not farming efficiently.

>>15404859

Torna blades are 0.5% which is pretty typical, maybe a little below average while the two gacha members are 0.25% which is the same as Zenobia.

Really gotta get back to this game once my joy con comes back (left one's been acting up and I rather wait 3 weeks then drop $50). Think I stopped at chapter 2.

>>15402852

>yeah welcome to 99% of Japanese content.

and it makes me want to kill myself so fucking much. All of the things is you mentioned are so common and unsurprising AND there will be some piece of shit professional localizers who will either defend all of the choices made, yell a free market non-answer or push responsibility on the jp side when they can advise jps to leave their 100% weeb stuff in as it's not necessary to censor. Japs being retards who think they can't sell their original product to a """broad audience""" (by imitating 90s era censorship and over-localization) on its own are only enabled by localizers who think only the americunt stereotype matters as an audience and affirm that retarded preconception.

And there will always be some smug piece of shit professional who'll claim the thing you're criticizing is "not understanding" localization as their own definition, which somehow also happens to be slightly at odds with other localizers', is the one true objective definition down to specific examples/details of the practice that only peasants won't grasp

>Like there's one with PoppiQTpi in the world tree where she reveals that Tora has programmed her for petplay and in English all of the text is translated to "woof woof!" and it's played off as so randumb xD humor. There are pretty significant liberties taken with the translation and not all of it is even censorship related.

Truthfully though, there's a lot of people I see everywhere who legit enjoy the cringe-worthy tumblr-humor that happens when some localizer "just does his job", which is changing something for no reason except maybe because the localizer's a goddamn creative genius who just HAS to insert their own quirky humor, localizers are artists too!!!

I hate all of the people who do like and encourage this kind of localizer narcissism and as long as they exist "professional" localization will always be a fucking joke. It'll be stuck with obnoxious retards who like an epic "twist" added to their weeb setting hailed as the only audience within the target language that matters. But niggers like this are on 8chan too and probably even in this thread, really everywhere.

It just makes me want to kill myself so much; why do you niggers exist, why do you live. Can't you just not have cancer taste. I hate most weebshit and I don't know whether overlocalization is designed to "alleviate" from weebshit or not, but it's 100% fucking worse, it really is.

>>15405282

>I hate most weebshit

You probably posted something like

>god i fucking love 2d cowtits

In another thread :^)

I hate Jimbo Coldsteel.

>>15404902

I'm finally done with rushing through the main game. Chapter 5 is when I should start doing some side quests for story quests. I plan on using common cores to grind idea points before rolling better blades. I want to have a bit more control with what elements of commons I get. Though it seems farming for luck boosting gear is the best bet.

>>15405851

>Jimbo Coldsteel

Even after he died I wanted to be the one to run a pike through his ass. Beautiful soul my ass, he was a cunt of the highest degree.

>>15405851

Ideas are kind of a meme honestly and so is trying to roll lots of blades before you have access to postgame resources. Just roll with the cores you naturally get and go get non-gacha sidequest blades, iirc Praxis and Vess both unlock in 5, and popping commons or whatever as you go will get you your pity blades.

>>15405878

That's what I figured. If anything 1* should be easy WP.

>>15406038

No, Mumkar would be a tank because Xenoblade 1 uses a completely different battle system.

>>15405580

dear hotpocket,

one can fap to cowtits and still believe that cowtits in a game that tries to be serious is fucking laughable. I will always respect games that embrace ecchi more than some cowardly, virgin mix of EMOTIONALLY MOVING PHILOSOPHICALLY DEEP story and massive 2d tits with self-awareness reduced to like 3% of the game's writing. The dissonance is just too un-believable and retarded

If there's a "deep" story that's good, it will never have gratuitous fanservice

>>15406370

The mixture of fanservice and teenaged philosophy is pretty core to the type of JRPG that all Xenogames are, keeping in mind that this series is a spinoff of FF7.

Funny thing is the fanservice actually has a lore explanation in this game, all of the fanservice characters are blades who are synthetic lifeforms designed to resonate with the emotional data provided by their drivers. If a blade resonates with a bunch of people who want a cute girl the blade can be shifted into a cuter and girlier form over time. In fact a lot of the fanservice is actually kind of subversive but not slap you in the face with it subversive. Pyra more than anyother character embodies it since Mythra consciously created her as a waifublade. Pyra herself says she's Mythra's shadow, Mythra's assertive, bossy, demanding/needy, a bad cook, ect while Pyra is the opposite, ie a good woman. Because Addam never trusted her she quite literally retreated into herself. Blades and titans both instinctively crave bonds with people because they are designed to communicate information to god about how his creation is doing, how the people are doing in particular.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/xeno2newstory/assets/images/top/bgm02.mp3

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/xeno2newstory/assets/images/top/bgm01.mp3

Seems like the Torna soundtrack is mostly jazz inspired rather than rock like the original game.

>>15350346

I want to cum all over his chest!

>>15408532

BGM01 is just totally Gormott. BGM02 is one battle theme, for the record. Also, looking on the website, there's apparently some sort of cross between the quest system, the old-style affinity chart, and the new development system. The Japanese site also has some card looking shit, don't know what the deal is there.

>>15404619

You know, I'd like to read a well written breakdown of every character and Blade, who goes well with what, and different builds. I always find optimization interesting in games, especially when shit gets broken like Ether Blossom Dance or Discbombs. Maybe consider doing it next thread or something, or make a pastebin, whatever.

>>15409120

In general, you have 3 ways to build a party

1. Artspam, ideal for characters/blades with quick refreshing arts, these builds often focus around a single character using a single move on a single blade, and pick secondary blades purely for passives/stats. These builds are easy to achieve and use so they're ideal for people who don't want to think too much. EOSJ Zeke is probably the best character for artspam in NG+ (and this is the only thing in the game that touches QTpi in terms of bustedness) but Rex/Fiora is the best in NG.

2. Blade combo/chain attacks, you want to build around special recharge/damage and have a party with 8 elements ideally. This style of play is pretty much optimal in normal/custom difficulty where you can kill almost anything with a successful full burst. This style is the least restrictive in terms of which drivers and weapon types you're using but requires you to not stack elements across your team.

3. Driver combo, sees more use in BOC where chain attacks are nerfed. Tora is clearly the best for this when built with fast switch parts for his poppis and an overclocking bangle, you can basically topplelock anything with him without being overly constrained.

Any optimization guide is going to have to take into account at least the last two. Optimizing each character is generally not that difficult or interesting, generally just max affinities and slap tachyon chips on everything, stuff like affinity max ATK, outdoor ATK, ect, then equip blades/accessories based on what you're going to build around.

>>15409930

Sounds like end game party is either going to be Rex as heal slut, Tora, and Zeke or Tora, Zeke, and Morag.

>>15410334

Both rex and tora can self heal easily, not sure about Zeke, though. I ended up keeping nia as a healslut because rex would continuously pull aggro off tora and drop dead from enraged boss specials. It's kinda silly to basically facetank with him via crit healing, though.

>>15410361

Nia a shit though, and Zeke is going to have the most blade variety by the end.

Zeke honest to god can do some insane damage once you learn how to use bringer of chaos.

>>15410427

Nah, just makes Jim and Malos seem more like shitty pawns to a greater villain. Poor Rex just wants land. But nah! Spoop the kid. Make him touch Pyra's crystal instead of pulling him away from the sword. Turn the biggest fool in Alrest into your worst enemy. If I find out that was part of the plan then fuck this game.

>>15410427

Malos wanted his driver to fuck him, human semen and vaginal fluids are used as blade lubricant and they become extremely depressed if they are not given a good, hard fucking by their driver once in awhile. He wanted to end the world because Amalthus was a closeted fag who wouldn't admit that he was a gay, the aegis knew of course which is why resonance made Malos gay.

Malos saw how Jin dicked Lora and was mad jealous over it and eventually after 500 years of tfw no gf Jin finally turned prison gay and agreed to fuck Malos which bound them together, remember how Malos says that he lives for Jin's benefit, that's what he meant. Amalthus was also jealous of Lora and wanted to steal Jin which is why he blew up Torna, he told himself because he wanted power to end the world and other emo shit but really it was because he wanted Jin to fuck him. If Jin just fucked Amalthus and awakened his inner latent homosexuality, he would have been able to give Malos the fucking that he needed and the entire aegis war would have been averted.

Mythra's issues also go back to Addam being afraid to stick his dick in a weapon of mass destruction, blades become downright suicidal when deprived of human bodily fluids because Klaus needed data on humans having sex for his personal research so he programmed them to instinctively seek sex from humans. Her entire arc in 2 is Rex's sexual awakening and Pyra/Mythra's power and will to live slowly being revived by repeated injections of shota semen, it took several chapters for them to really get out of the funk though because they had gone 500 years without any. It's like how vampires go nuts if they don't drink blood often enough.

Malos, at the end, lamented that he didn't meet Rex earlier mostly because getting beat down by him made him randy and his boyfriend just died. Malos asks "How was it?" to his sister at the end, he wasn't talking just about life but also being fucked by Rex.

>>15401524

>tfw you lose 2 hours of running around and ganking random critters for people's affinity charts because you forgot about the bug where you softlock if you trigger a quest finish while doing a special

Been happening to me too. A few times during Praxis's quest (where I get Theory), and now during T-elos's quest. And I've also had a few times where just moving through the menu just completely locks things up.

>>15411467

just don't end fights that end a quest during an art or special. I haven't had any menu crashes though I heard that was a big issue when the game first came out.

>>15411405

>Research.

Sure… Of course!

FUCKING DEGENERATE

>>15411523

It's lonely at the top.

>>15411620

indeed, you can share her parts with your friends.

>>15387247

Wait, they didn’t make Nia a gay did they? I’m still saving the game till all the DLC is out.

>>15411900

Nia is not gay considering she gets NTR'd by Pyra

>>15411615

> Also direct tomorrow possibly with Torna stuff.

Not anymore. Another earthquake hit and it's been delayed indefinitely.

Am I the only one who has lost all interest in the Torna DLC because I don't want to play an entire RPG playing as a discount sephiroth.

>>15412482

Then don't. Play as Addam/Mythra/Haze instead.

>>15411900

They didn't make her gay. If you see that scene in context shes pissed that her "rival" has a better figure.

>>15411620

I hate her she has paper legs yet she can stand. FUCK OFF that gives me migraines.

>>15412769

she probably doesn't weigh shit anyways because her entire body except her head is hollow and she's kinda floaty.

>>15412482

Every character in Xenoblade 2 was an anime/JRPG trope, why be so offended by one of the tropes in particular?

>>15411738

That's cuckoldry. I was thinking she would write notes with her upper half while watching the lower half be used.

What game should I start with if I want to get into the Xeno series? And how do I progress?

>>15413114

>Are there any upcoming games that seem promising?

Smash Ultimate and Metroid 4. But you should give BotW a try too.

There's also Bayonetta 1&2 if you haven't played them yet and there's 3 coming out soon too.

>>15413114

Emulation will probably be viable within 12-18 months, possibly sooner. Progress has been very rapid on Mario, only question is how much spillover from the top game we'll see, could rapidly accelerate Xenoblade 2 or it could be an X style situation where years later the emulator is still iffy for it. I only pulled the trigger on my switch when we learned about the hardware exploits in original switches, I figure they'll release a switch pro in a few years like the N3DS, I'll buy that, system transfer to it and have a blank slate 1.0 switch to hack for fun.

On the whole I haven't been disappointed though. Octopath is a solid 40ish hour JRPG though I would have preferred something like a third, non terrible Bravely game. I've got about 100 hours in Xenoblade 2. Mario was okay, Bayo2 was worse than 1 but still pretty good, BOTW was a snorefest and I should have just played on CEMU to figure out that it was a meme open world with asscreed towers and tons of filler. It's amazing that people call this game a 'return to roots' when it doesn't have a single dungeon, just open world areas and 4 large puzzles with shitty bosses in them.

>>15413172

>X combat has the most depth

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe, it's kind of one dimensional once you figure out overdrive with the main exception of superbosses. But 1 and 2 are easy to break as well.

>>15413252

> But 1 and 2 are easy to break as well.

2 you can 3 shot a boss if you play the builds right.

>>15413114

>tfw no Vivian James blade.

>>15414516

Xenoblade 2 is the game that can be broken the hardest of the three but you need much more grind and prep to get to that level of broken than you need to break the majority of the game with overdrive in X. BOC also can't be broken with chain attacks in the same way normal can be, though stuff like NG+ Zeke/Pandoria and PoppiQTpi can still blow up any boss in a few second flat with arts you're not encountering that until you've already spent over 100 hours on the game.

Lora has Jin (ice) and Haze (wind)

Addam has Mythra (light) and Minoth (dark)

Hugo has Brighid (fire) and Aegaeon (water)

All opposed element pairs… Were there plans for a fourth player Driver with earth and electric Blades that got cut?

I was pulling Blades from rare core crystals for no good reason, and somehow I got KOS-MOS. On Nia, which is probably my second best option actually. I'll probably swap her over to Zeke eventually, when I get more Overdrives from driver affinity chart completion and maybe that rank 4 Blade I also pulled.

>>15415368

Drivers themselves have elements. Addam is electric and hugo is earth IIRC. Don't remember what Lora is.

>>15415656

Drivers change their element by equipping different weapons.

>>15415707

There is no way that he was not inspired by optimal optimus.

>>15412721

Lora and Jin are obviously the main characters here.

>>15412902

>Every character in Xenoblade 2 was an anime/JRPG trope, why be so offended by one of the tropes in particular?

I just think he is a shit character, his design isn't appealing, his personality isn't appealing, his 'a noble soul' death was stupid when Amalthus had pretty much the exact same tragic back story to him but done 10 times better.

>>15422234

His life has been suffering from day one alright he didn't even get to finish his gachapon opening speech/animation, Lora's dad interrupted him by trying to kill her so he had to nuthin personnel him. He was killing bitches right from the word go.

>>15416004

And you apparently missed the discussion about Blades and Drivers fighting independently. Essentially, the Torna Drivers will be their own fighters with non-Blade weapons, tagging in the Blades to fight rather than swapping weapons. Exception to Blade Combos, those seem to still be cooperative attacks with the Blade and Driver.

>>15424626

I already knew all that.

What does that have to do with pointing out that of the three playable pairs of Blades, they all have opposed element pairs?

>>15424639

>>15424676

My bad, I must've substituted "weapon" with "Blade" in my mind, because no shit it changes.

Nearing the 100 hour mark on my save, I want to be ready to enter NG+ the second I'm done with Torna. Really the last thing I have to do is grinding trust/affinity with love source and merc missions, so far I pretty much just have the story blades plus the literally free trees like Boreas, Sheba and Herald maxed. Also need to roll and grind out some commons on Nia/Morag so I can break the dark/ice sealstones to finish Zenobia.

Also to put the fucking Ursula grind into perspective I got her in chapter 8 and she's been in merc missions 24/7 ever since and only now is she almost done.

>>15424639

It's obvious why they're all opposed, I think they're trying to make the game's core mechanics a little more intuitive, ie blade combos, orbs, chain attacks. Without having so many blade options it's easier to force mongs to learn how to play so they don't whine about the combat sucking when it's a fine system. Hopefully they also don't withhold core mechanics until several chapters in again, I know you can't necessarily throw someone into a fight and expect them to driver combo, blade combo and chain attack but there's also no reason to be still giving me new mechanics and tutorials in chapter 8.

>>15424688

I meant by default based on lower level videos we've seen since it closes the elemental gap, I knew there were switchable weapons. I was just saying that driver's attacks are also elemental.

>>15424688

>5 driver slots on the picture

So who can even be added? Amalthus? He'd make sense and be a pretty cool addition, better than some no-names with no real relation to the story. That still leaves one driver left, though.

Does Xenogears' combat ever become anything more than "use your newest/highest damage combo and maybe heal occasionally"?

>>15426980

>Does Xenogears' combat ever become anything more than "use your newest/highest damage combo and maybe heal occasionally"?

That is every JRPG ever. So no. Still fun though…up until the second disc.

>>15413114

I thought the same for a bit. Ended up getting the Switch for Xenoblade 2. Picked up MHGU, Octopath and Dragon Quest Builders. Think I'm sorted for games this year.

>>15413172

Fuck I really want X on the Switch. Hate having to set the Wii U with it's gay as fuck pad that needs it own power supply.

>>15426684

Technically Mikhail is in this, but I don't think he was a Driver until way later.

>watch some Torna vids

>apparently their titan is super powerful and it has already been used to slaughter other titans in the past

>mfw Amalthus might have saved the nations of Alrest by destroying Torna

>>15427063

It was definitely after the war that he turned into an eater, so it'd make no sense. Unless the two spots are just a mistake and an UI leftover from regular XC2, it's probably Amalthus because who the fuck else can you pick? Then either a random faggot nobody will care about, king of some titan or maybe another kike like Tora. It might be his famed ancestor, Talmood.

>>15426684

Yeah we might get some temporary members, either that or they were just using the old UI and forgot to remove slots 4 and 5

>>15427193

Probably not as they said they sealed that power away. But maybe they unsealed it for the aegis war and we get to see some reasoning behind "I'm evil and I crave power" for that decision.

>>15427275

Dahlia is a gachablade. Don't bother stocking up on common cores, just pop them, they count towards your pity points (at 100, 200 and 300 points they give you a pity rare) but aren't good for much else. You can technically pull any blade from them but even if when you roll one, you get a rare blade in its pool, it only has a 1 in 4 chance to give you the rare over a common, while rare crystals will always give you a rare if one shows up in the pool when you roll it. Commons end up not even being worth the time to open them in the lategame.

Don't worry about getting all of the gachablades until postgame when you can smash farm superbosses for 99 rares and 99 legendaries in about 40-50 minutes, until then just roll with what the game gives you. It shouldn't ever take you more than 2-3 hours to roll everything. In fact opening the fucking things, even post-patch, takes almost as long as farming them.

>>15412482

Xenogears was a first draft for Final fantasy VII that got told to fuck off it was too strange. There is a LOT of Final Fantasy DNA in Xeno and to be honest Xeno is more FF than FF these days.

>>15427312

Yeah, the only cores you should consider holding onto until you get someone with 999 luck are legendaries. Anything else is scrub shit that you will mostly end up grinding into boosters anyways. Legendaries are 3x as good as a rare.

The game doesn't really dump legendary cores on you, you have to strategically itemize to farm legendaries that efficiently, but it absolutely dumps commons on you like crazy in the mid-lategame.

So Pokken Hori pads work pretty well with Tiger! Tiger! if you can get used to the bigger D-pad. Hori pad is also perfect for Puyo Puyo x Tetris. As long as you stand in front of the arcade machine you can keep playing. It's also pretty easy to switch back to pro controller/joycon when done.

If you're going to play through NG+, there's no need to grind tiger tiger unless you enjoy it. Specially if you plan on doing a lot of post game stuff.

>>15427805

When I play Tiger! Tiger! I forget it's suppose to be farming for crystals and instead go for the high score.

>>15427334

>here is a LOT of Final Fantasy DNA in Xeno and to be honest Xeno is more FF than FF these days.

That's really fucking true.

>>15428445

i wish they balanced it so that the harder levels had a big crystal multiplier so there was actually an incentive to get good, sadly the best crystal farming strat is just doing lv1 over and over and hoping you get a secret room.

Let's pretend I'll ever be done with all my other switch games. Can I just pick up XC2 with no prior knowledge?

>>15428562

Yes.

>>15428562

Yeah, the story is fully self contained and merely enhances and is enhanced by its connections to 1, which only become really relevant at the end.

>>15427334

Like how Rex gets stabbed by a dude with white hair and a long sword and then gets a girlfriend with big tits and shorts?

>>15427342

Okay, so open all course, only legendaries should you hang onto.

And if you get one of those ones in the "book" (such as Dahlia) they will always be the same, yes?

>>15427193

>>15426684

There's a good chance we'll see the founder of Tantal at some point, so a Pandoria cameo is possible.

>>15429616

Their skill layout is always identical, it's only the commons with random setups.

Commons get a few exclusive skills that no rares have though so you shouldn't write them off. Many of them have better stat boosts than rares

>>15411900

nah, she is just a bisexual like pyra and mythra.

These blade sidequests range from ridiculous cringe to kino, I just helped the jojoblade set up a dessert shop.

So are any of the costumes actually good accessories/aux cores? Aside from the terrain resisting ones I guess?

>>15438318

Honestly they're mostly shit, but the swimsuits are nice for the retarded AI who love swimming in poison.

>>15438332

I noticed the Mythra-Style Pyra one gave Pyra Critical Up V, which would be pretty good for a crit heal build but the problem is real Mythra is the one who does that sort of thing. Oh well, might as well get some of them anyway, it's nice to have extra stuff. Not like there's anything worthwhile to get with Noponstones aside from Idea increases for Tora so he does a little more elemental damage, and some parts for Poppi which aren't even great either, right?

>>15438318

Zekes gives crit damage which is good if you are using Axes/Telos on him and don't have one of the better ones that can drop from the Challenge Land.

Poppi QTPi has annul defense.

>>15447626

Xenoblade XII better have lots of guest mecha designs, that's really all I need at this point.

Should we let this thread die and talk about Golden Country in a fresh thread?

>>15447698

Poppi Mecha WHEN? Rosa was a blue ball shitfest with memes.

>>15447698

Keep this thread alive.

>>15402555

Are Crti Heal items so easy to get in the main story? I would not recomment people go without a dedicated healer until they beat chapter 6.

I get to play Torna a week early because I was a good goy. I need a drink.

>>15447928

I also plan on playing it a little early because I'm a dirty pirate. Well, hopefully somebody will put it online relatively quickly, at least. I had to go digging for the August updates since they weren't in our Switch hacking thread.

>>15448655

Yar har!

If one hacks, and gets banned, how does one go about updating their games? Online is crap, but I want my XB2 season pass updates.

>>15448835

More piracy usually solves that. If you get CDN banned, you'll have to rely on other people to get the files for you though. Check out the Switch Hacking thread, they'll give you the rundown, if not the actual files. I personally haven't even entered any credentials for online or put my Switch out of airplane mode just in case I ever wanted to do any online stuff.

>>15428562

You can play 2 without 1 and x, but there will be some background info lost if you dont play 1 eventually.

>>15447698

I appreciated xenoblade 1's robot design though, something about robots with more than 1 pair of eyes as alien entities just feels right.

Tiger! Tiger's scoring system is so unclear. I go through identical layouts with the same tactics: collect groups of crystals at once, kill multiple enemies with the hook, etc. And yet sometimes I come out with 10,000 or 12,000.

What's the highest level enemy you have found in the Torna DLC? I'm only 8 hours in and going slow so it's still the level 50 in the first area.

>>15452323

Malos 1 is level 40 but from what I've seen in the areas I'm doing quests in after the capital city the level curve probably sticks around 50ish at most.

Also judging by the fact that I have my 5th level key affinity for Jin, the game shouldn't go much longer in terms of level curve. idk what the cap is but my guess is 60 given that it was a challenge battle cutoff in the base game.

>>15452346

That's exactly what I thought it would be and I'm a bit sad I was right. I want to know about a possible end game or ng+ for Torna but I can't look up anything out of fear of specific spoilers and I am taking my sweet ass time. I just left Gormott after having finished every side quest available and while at this pace I think it'll take me 60+ hours to beat it I can't risk learning of the content possibly lacking compared to what I envisioned it to be because it will severely damper my experience.

>>15452386

Nintendo said it'd be about 20 hours of content for most players. Some people misconstrued that comment, since it came alongside the guy saying that they were half way through the game in the desert. I think on the whole it's pretty damn reasonable given that we also got challenge mode, extra blades and swimsuits in the base game.

I was at about 8 hours entering the desert so I assume that I will be done at around 15 or 16 hours and then maybe have some stuff to wrap up after. I found the gate where you use the sealstones you pick up and there's a bunch of barriers there, I assume this games' big bad optional boss is hiding behind them and I'm actually looking forward to it since big enemies are so satisfying to fight in this game.

>>15450936

I agree with that last bit (haven't played enough to fairly assess the first part), some Xenogears vibes, and some XBC1 vibes as well Gort reminds me of Mumkhar so far. Unfortunately, the localization team made an absolutely horrendous decision to have Mythra use nigger-tier speech when communicating with Haze on at least one occasion, post-normal battle. Mythra thanks Haze, Haze acts surprised at Mythra's gratitude, and Mythra says something along the lines of 'wow, I take it back, Haze is the master of low-key shade.' Get the fuck out of here with that shit. It sounds so awkward and out of place. Whoever thought having that in there can fuck right off forever.

>>15452535

>playing the dub

that's your mistake. Actually Mythra is the only absolute shit tier character in it but she was dogshit in the base game as well so you had plenty of warning to steer clear of the dub.

>>15452550

>missing out on hot welsh cat action

Its worth dealing with Skye's absolutely shitty performance just for Nia.

>>15452558

There is no Nia in Torna

>>15452604

>You will never marry a catgirl bioweapon and make a litter of kittens.

>>15452550

I know it was trash, but I'll always play the dub first since I don't speak nip, and then I'll change it to the original for subsequent playthroughs.

Still mulling over the $32 season pass. I do have the base game but is it worth playing on its own?

>>15452619

God fucking dammit

>>15453034

The content you get is pretty value tbh. The blades are pretty fun and challenge mode is the best postgame content in Xeno2 and is basically a training room for doing whatever brokeass postgame build you want to use.

Torna is definitely the main feature of that though. I figure the content in the main game is worth about ten bucks and Torna is probably worth thirty. Torna won't be a 60-120 hour project like Xenoblade 2. People have beat it in as little as 12 hours, most players will finish it in between 15 and 20 hours. But those are a generally much higher quality, lower filler content (and what filler there is, is generally more enjoyable to do due to a superior combat system). Considering the fact that people pay 60 bucks for an 8 hour cinematic walking experience I think that 30 for a 15-20 hour JRPG is pretty reasonable.

Torna's system is actually really good. I'm not quite at endgame yet, not sure what it'll look like fully geared but it's the only system I've seen that can have encounters with 9 party members all engaged in combat, 6 at the same time, without being an unmanageable clusterfuck. Chain attacks are nerfed in Torna but it's also easier to full burst since you get an orb on every stage of a chain instead of just on the last special. Driver combos are much more consistent and since your blades are fixed you don't need to lock yourself into a suboptimal blade just to have the right reaction (fucking Roc).

The only design decision I'm not liking is them locking the final showdown behind sidequests. While I was going to do them anyways, it's kind of bad to cockblock the people who want to rip the bandaid off and get the horribly sad ending they were playing for immediately. It's kind of sad/boring doing all of this community building shit when you know the titan's getting blown up and everyone dies anyways. I'm mostly in it for the gameplay and seeing the character interactions.

>>15453034

If you get the Torna phsyical cart, you get the season pass with it, as a code. Seems pretty value to me.

>>15453591

physical cart is 10 bucks more and comes out a week later though

>>15453591

>If you get the Torna phsyical cart

>physical cart

How in the hell does that work? Is it its own game outright?

>>15453303

Sad to say that I haven't mastered the battle system just yet. Barely started the game (chapter 2 or 3) and controller issues drove me away from the console for a while. Taken care of but now I'm sucked into another game. Don't like to leave too many unfinished at a time.

>>15453659

you literally can't master the battle system before chapter 5 because of the pants on head retarded decision to gate tons of core mechanics until 20 hours into the game. That's another advantage Torna has, you have everything in like an hour or two at most, and enough to avoid the autoattack hell that the first two chapters of the base game are within 10 minutes.

>>15453688

Not since Dragon Age Origins have I played a game with auto attack mechanics. Still takes some getting used to. I managed to pull off a few specials but I swear the game wanted me to reach higher tiers and either I can't trigger them or I did and I didn't/couldn't notice.

Until I get Zeke I just flip the stick with Rex to rapid fire the first hit and spam Rolling Smash. I give him max DEX early game to avoid blocks. Maybe I switch to Roc or knuckle slut to pull off a blade combo.

>>15454720

I've been doing that a lot with Lora in the DLC, her third hit takes forever to come out compared to the first two, feels like arts charge much faster if you one-two-flick

>>15455107

Kinda sucks if you want the most effectiveness out of your driver arts you have to land that third hit and cancel. If you have a good character with good weapon rhythm this isn't a problem. By late game you'll be using driver combos to interrupt enemies behavior anyway. Also smash farming.

>>15453659

Yes, the torna DLC is it's own game. Confirmed on the official nintendo website. I'm not too happy they didn't put the whole season pass and game updates on the cart.

>>15455620

I make it a point to go physical whenever possible. So it's not so much DLC but whatever Infamous: First Light (another DLC that was its own short game) called itself.

>>15455692

Standalone Expansion?

>>15455963

You do not need to buy Xenoblade 2's base game to play.

>>15455999

I know, I was trying to present the term he was looking for.

>>15455999

You do if you want a digital version, digital version launches off of XBC2. Physical version will be fully standalone.

>>15456023

Well fuck then. Stand alone will be snatched up by scalpers. Is there no option to get the digital game next week without expansion pass and base game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKUuKQLGXXI

For people who were wondering about the level curve in this game. Apparently the max level is 99 just like the base game. Normal game content ends at level 50 and there seems to be much less postgame stuff in terms of monsters and no challenge battles.

>>15459641

Also it's permanently bonded to the character that opened it unless you use one of the 4-or-so override items to give it to another character

>>15459661

After chapter 5 put all non-story blades on Zeke for the rest of the game. Then use your 4 overdrives to put the few quality blades you get on Morag. Rex is Master Driver by chapter 8 so no point wasting overdrives on him. Rex is seated forever until then anyway until you can use him to replace Nia as a healslut.

>>15459641

~50% of the blades in the game are locked behind gachapons.

>>15459656

There are technically infinite overdrives, you get them for releasing 4 star blades with maxed affinities and for maxing out each driver's affinity chart, so you have at least 9. IIRC in NG+ you can buy them for bonus XP as well.

>>15459685

end of the day, don't worry about it, you'll get solutions to do whatever you want later if you want to play around postgame. You don't need any of the rares other than the ones you get through the story for free, in fact commons are often better than shitty rare blades, only about half of the gachablades are even worth a shit.

Just picked up a cheap second hand WiiU and X, am I going to get buyers remorse?

>>15461030

>WiiU

>X

>Buyers remorse

Yes.

>>15461006

Fiora and Crossette, need to beat the game for Fiora but you don't need to be in NG+

>>15461030

You can easily pirate everything on the Wii U X undub uncensor included, so no. You won't regret it.

Why is Addam a fucking bro?

>>15461094

You will never eat a sushi platter off of Morag.

>>15462583

>He is basically like Rex if Rex was cooler.

Well Rex is definitely younger than Addam.

> I was surprised with how they actually made Jin edgy, but not obnoxiously so like they did in the main game

Because his waifu is still alive. He was obviously going to be less edgy in this. It was stated many, many times what happened to her was what made him Nothing-Personnel-Man.

>>15462583

something something something Zohar something something

there I made it work.

>>15461094

No seriously what do I do about Doom?

>>15466422

devote an accessory to it if you absolutely have to.

>>15466478

I was hoping there was an actual gameplay way of dealing with it but it seems not even invuln attacks protect against it.

I know hammers other than Finch is shit but I like Electra's design.

>>15470084

You seem to not understand hammers. They all suck in their own unique ways. Kassandra has two Aux Core slots meaning she can take advantage of Ultimate Shield and Block Rate Up V making her decent, Godfrey can't do shit even with them, Electra just doesn't give a shit about taking or dealing damage, Finch does care about doing damage but forgets to be a tank, and Poppibuster is DLC and if there's any analysis to be done there I don't know or care.

>>15470148

Whoever the fuck invented hammer rares that can't block and reflect damage like they're suppose to needs to commit sudoku.

>>15470187

Eelecta would be fucking invincible if she had 2 aux core slots, I think they realized that and didn't want to break the game. Shame they missed the everything else though. At least Kassandra does alright at that and isn't gatchashit. But given how Morag is pretty good at both dealing and taking damage, you might be better off with Finch than anything if you want to not have two katanas on her. Or try out Poppibuster and see what the fuck is up with that thing.

>>15470227

Electra has an incredible chart and the ability to reflect ether damage (I did a new game and accidentally rolled her on Rex, could be worse). It's that lack of the second AUX core that sucks.

>>15470227

too bad tanking damage in general is scrubby outside of BOC pre-maxed poppi/EOSJ zeke and endgame builds focus on just blowing up enemies before they can do shit about it.

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