1207ff No.15349571
Can this company be salvaged? Lately they have been releasing nothing but shit with the exception of Etrian Odyssey. They're rife with Persona milking, DLC whoring and (lately) shitty remakes that misses the point of the originals. I have low confidence in Catherine Full Body with yet again a new waifu route and SMT V which will certainly continue SMT's downhill trajectory.
1207ff No.15349605
>>15349579
Just giving out my opinion.
33a009 No.15349637
It's really disappointing to see the grim darkness of classical megaten being washed away by the ever consuming popularity of persona. Seriously, what is the point of changing an already grim dark series into an optimistic one if you already have a hopeful series that's mildly grim in comparison?
11ec5f No.15349652
>>15349579
>waaaaaaah someone dared to criticize what I like waaaahhh
lol
1207ff No.15349653
>>15349637
I thought they would contain that shit to modern Persona but now it's spread to SMT and even Radiant Historia with its remake.
cd8b82 No.15349662
>>15349571
>what we should do in terms of bust size
It looks to me like they stopped wasting time on nonsense and started asking the important questions.
6ab80d No.15349671
>>15349571
>Can this company be salvaged?
Seems all the names that contributed to the early tone and design of Atlus games have either left or moved into the background doing unknown things and occasionally resurfacing like Kaneko has been doing. If the company is to be salvaged, it's going to have to be by the current or new staff forging that new direction. They've been vocal about not wanting to tred upon the legacy of older directors which is why stuff like Persona doesn't reference or acknowledge the first two games anymore, and I can imagine this is also the case for other franchises.
Problem is they got money going the waifu route for remakes, and even stuff like Etrian Odyssey has degraded because of bad design decisions like turning bosses into HP sponges and less interesting class dynamics. DLC is just a type of cancer thats infected all their stuff at this point but apparently the model is working because they are still making bank. And as far as mainline titles and spinoffs, yeah, the tone is far less bleak and gothic and the PS2 was the last generation where they really had the right mix of contemporary style and good design decisions with thtles like Nocturne and DDS. I really feel like they are just stuck trying to recapture the success of those games since they won't abandon Press Turn to try something else and it's been over a decade now.
They manage to do good with titles like Devil Survivor…only to go full retard with narratives in the sequel.
>>15349662
>asanagi
Wish he could draw more than one face and write more than 1 story.
52384c No.15349747
>>15349571
Isn't it obvious? They're just going to keep doing what makes them the most money.
(At least Sharp FE flopped, thankfulkly.)
249378 No.15349760
>>15349571
Why should the company be salvaged when it is clear they're doing pretty swell?
Oh wait, you expected a company to give a shit about anything that doesn't involve money.
70baac No.15349763
Has any series managed to keep it's identity passed the 6th console generation?
6e022c No.15349779
>>15349662
more images like that please
840a2c No.15349780
>>15349671
/thread
The heart and soul of Megaten left after he created Nocturne. Last anyone heard he went bankrupt and is still living on the streets.
81b0c8 No.15349791
>>15349780
>Last anyone heard he went bankrupt and is still living on the streets.
Excuse me what?
6ab80d No.15349804
>>15349763
No. Looking at any long running franchise change is inevitable, especially one that has run for over 30 y3ars. A lot of what Defined SMT after the first two megami tensei entries was the 80s aesthetics and cultural iconography since the game was designed to reflect the then modern tokyo. By the time we got to Soul hackers it had evolved to 90s aesthetics in terms of fashion and culture. Now we're riding in the current year of trends and cultural artifacts.
And that's still not addressing changes in mechanics as people have refined and redefined the notion of an RPG. And spinoffs come and go adding some variety to what the overall franchise offers. There was a tactical RPG for the Megaten franchise back in the 80s or early 90s that played like fire emblem. Now you got something like Devil Survivor which is a decidedly different take.
Shit was always going to change, the thing that matters is whether or not some fans will accept those changes as being good or bad. For me I can't really get behind these 150+ hour grind fests that constitute Persona. Or the comparably shorter but less fullfilling SMT IV. Strange Journey was great and the DS seems like the last bastion of "good" Megaten games that I played barring any remakes on the 3DS like Overclocked and Soul Hackers. And it's not like Atlus still doesn't publish good titles but their in-house stuff has been lacking for the last generation of consoles and handhelds.
840a2c No.15349826
>>15349791
One of their key creative director's left after Nocturne and didn't do so good. I can't remember who it was, I remember hearing about it in one of Nyth Grandbeard "Year of Megaten" videos but I can't find it.
df7910 No.15349851
Persona mainline games are good, the spin-offs are okay but you're more than justified to be tired by it. The DLC is really not a big deal. I get there's a lot of it, but they aren't locking anything of any value behind it. Fucking Senran Kagura is worse than Megaten. The remakes do seem to miss something I agree. I never got into strange journey, I've always had trouble getting into games for portable consoles but that's beside the point. That point being, I can see some of the original lost in the remake, with a different art style and Marie 2.0. I don't know how much it really does shit on the original, but either way it's just a remake, and I don't think it's a good metric for the future of Megaten. With full body we'll have to wait and see. I did play Catherine, so I'm more invested in what they do to the story. If the new route is a trap, and they really go the route of calling Vincent's sexuality into question, then that would make me really question their judgement, but I can't draw any conclusions yet. SMT V however, looks promising from what little we have seen. The art looks like Kaneko's, even if it's not, and the setting seems to be similar to Nocturne's. I honestly believe that SMT V is the most important game for the future of megaten. It's the first SMT game on something more powerful than the PS2, which means non-person megaten has a chance of getting the care it deserves again.
6ab80d No.15349856
>>15349826
You're probably thinking of Cozy Okada, he left to make his own company but it dissolved in 2010. Which sucks because I'd played Folklore and liked it a lot. They had other titles but I've never played any of them much less heard of them.
77c849 No.15349864
>>15349856
He got a loan from Sony and blew it by overdeveloping the monster system in Jewel Summoner, he's basically ostracized himself at this point.
ddc1c1 No.15349887
Persona Q2 will be good most likely
SMT IV was… serviceable though it had large flaws, Apoc too
Strange Journey was like the whore who works at ISis came in, same for Radiant Historia, but the remakes for SMT Devil Survivor games and Soul Hackers was very good
Alliance Alive is okay, Persona is good, though it went in a different direction from Old Persona
The new Persona dancing games are coming out as well
They also still publish and localize good shit too
e84b57 No.15349891
>>15349571
No, they shifted gears a long time ago. Remember that Atlus doesn't make games for the western market or even care for it. Can't blame them really, their weeb games do sell much better and they still have a knack for stylish prestentation
840a2c No.15349895
>>15349887
So far they're doing pretty well. All the problems IV had were fixed in Apocolypse.
77c849 No.15349916
>>15349895
You're not very funny.
1207ff No.15349922
>>15349851
>The DLC is really not a big deal. I get there's a lot of it, but they aren't locking anything of any value behind it.
Yes they did. They locked parts of maps and a class behind a paywall in that Etrian Odyssey 2 remake. Both SMT IV and IV Apocalypse had bosses and story locked behind a paywall as well. To say nothing for Radiant Historia remake with the old artstyle requiring additional payment.
ddc1c1 No.15349996
>>15349895
I've heard Apoc partially balanced the combat system but screwed up every other aspect, especially story hard
ddc1c1 No.15349997
>>15349922
>bosses and story locked behind a paywall
I know SMT IV/Apoc had some kikery with DLC in terms of app points, Macca and shit like that but this is the first I've heard of this, is it just optional unimportant shit or actually significant to the story?
7be9f1 No.15350014
>>15349571
The invention of cuckime greatly hindered the creative capacities of the Japanese people.
40ba06 No.15350025
1207ff No.15350026
>>15349997
Pretty significant actually. In IV you got that one DLC where you are sent to the past to fight the archangels. It showed that you are partially responsible for them being locked in that tower.
The DLC is cart-locked too:
http://archive.is/rVkIL#selection-1465.1-1467.1
58635b No.15350031
ddc1c1 No.15350038
>>15350026
That's really disappointing honestly
I know Atlus is turning jewier but that's just sad
1207ff No.15350115
>>15350038
Yeah the rot began with SMT IV and it got so bad with Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold that it bombed in Japan. At least with the EO side of things they don't have important content locked behind a paywall anymore with V and Nexus.
6a4290 No.15350658
Atlus peaked on PS2 with some great games on the DS.
Right now they are a shadow of their former selves, the most obvious way to see it would be comparing SMT 3 and 4.
Supposed to be a direct sequel SMT 4 takes steps back in almost every single aspect, from presentation to level design. In SMT 3 every single area was a labyrinth to be explored.
In SMT 4 most areas are so pathetic they can't even be called dungeons and the exploration is so lackluster they have to constantly reward you with shitty vendor trash.
158f8f No.15350720
>>15349605
>>15349652
Stop responding to obvious bait.
57ac7a No.15350861
>>15350658
> In SMT 3 every single area was a labyrinth to be explored.
>In SMT 4 most areas are so pathetic they can't even be called dungeons and the exploration is so lackluster they have to constantly reward you with shitty vendor trash.
Dungeon Design took an arrow to the knee with Atlus games with arguably Strange Journey having the last dungeon that offered any depth or challenge based on layout and puzzles. There was an article I remember reading some years ago detailing how Nocturned did a fantastic job of managing and manipulating space and I'll have to see if I can find the site it was on later.
Sufficed to say, IV had dungeon designs on par with the ps2 persona games which isn't great because they were barebones procedural generated schlock.
6a27f8 No.15351126
>>15350861
4 apoc has actual real dungeons but the final dungeon of that game is absolute garbage
5494df No.15351213
>>15351126
>4 apoc has actual real dungeons
if you have brain problems you can think that..
57ac7a No.15351224
Found the article I was remembering. If anyone remembers Project Ballad, the guy who worked on it had a blog he discussed a bunch of things on. He also had a number of very well written analysis on different MegaTen titles but sadly the website is no longer up and I haven't checked wayback to see what could be salvaged.
Anyways looks like someone uploaded a few of the articles from P:B onto their own blog.
http://arbitrarynumbers.blogspot.com/2016/05/pb-flashback-distance-between-sides-of.html
67ea54 No.15351234
>>15349662
That artwork is fucking garbage. Fabric doesn't fucking work like that and that lighting is fucking abysmal.
700f23 No.15351272
>>15350861
>all maps combined are one third of one floor of one sector of Strange Journey
Oh wow, you nocturne players are so hardcore and badass. Almost having to navigate a three room teleporter maze, I don't know how you do it.If I want a legit dungeon crawler experience I have way better choices even in freeware than that shit. SMT4 isn't much worse from where the rest of us are standing.
5e361a No.15351285
>>15351234
>why isn't this anime realistic???
67791d No.15351328
>>15349571
>hating Atlus
It seems like you got lost, faggot. The >>>/oven/ is that way.
>>15349652
>>waaaaaaah
>waaaahhh
You goons are so easy to spot.
f71ac0 No.15351411
>>15349763
Zelda went back to it's roots in BotW.
3b2c5e No.15351477
>>15349571
Its a little thing called Decay. Everything gets shittier and falls apart no matter how good it may seem.
fc3995 No.15351486
Atlus was only ever good for publishing Cave's shmups.
173abe No.15351507
>>15351328
>liking nupersona
Go back to reddit.
78b33f No.15351572
>>15351486
Cave shmups are garbage tho, even Treasure shmups are better and those are pretty shit
52384c No.15351814
>>15349791
>>15349856
>>15349864
Yup. Apparently Cozy's name was found on some Japanese list of tax evaders, but it's not 100% confirmed.
Either way, no one has seen him in a decade.
bc0dd1 No.15351853
>>15349571
There's not a single SMT game that didn't have awful gameplay, relying in entirety on a pretentious as fuck story to carry everything. Them moving towards waifubait is an improvement, as that way they have at least something to offer
840a2c No.15352079
>>15349916
Honestly I've never played it. That's what I was told. I played IV and it always seems to railroad you into the chaos ending unless you explicitly make very specific choices aiming for law. I was told Apocalypse fixed that. Yea I know Apocalypse seemed to further push the Persona social link tier shit more, but that's a different conversation.
721dd5 No.15352156
I hate Japanese video games. Don't you just hate Japanese video games, anons? I mean grrr anime. Atlas should make more games like God of Soy.
840a2c No.15352158
>>15351853
Polite sage REDUX! for double post
That's like saying "Dragon Quest needs to adopt more Final Fantasy gameplay if it wants to be successful!" or "Europeans need to adopt more multiculturalism if they want to survive!"
57ac7a No.15352218
Sure are a lot of (1) and done posts.
ddc1c1 No.15352250
>>15351814
>Yup. Apparently Cozy's name was found on some Japanese list of tax evaders, but it's not 100% confirmed.
I bet the Yakuza did this, he was too cool for this world; I refuse to believe it
>>15351563
>no gym
does that mean no exercise?I eat meat all the fucking time and I still look average with some fat
>>15352218
IPs switch all the time faggot
15283c No.15352296
>>15352250
While having a diet such as the one he mentions would make you lose fat because of ketosis, it's impossible to look defined like in the picture without exercise. So either he's lying or he has a top tier calisthenics regime.
52384c No.15352353
>>15352250
>I bet the Yakuza did this, he was too cool for this world; I refuse to believe it
I know what you mean. I'm very skeptical to any Okada-related "news" I might come across.
>>15351853
>There's not a single SMT game that didn't have awful gameplay, relying in entirety on a pretentious as fuck story to carry everything.
Go back to your casual fairy tale simulators, Hackaguchi. This is a thread for real RPGs.
57ac7a No.15352363
>>15352250
>IPs switch
Unless your intentionally changing it or changing locations, your IP will be the same.
840a2c No.15352469
>>15352363
>He isn't refreshing his Tor/AnonSurf connection every time he posts.
49dd60 No.15352484
Anybody who has played atlus games before P3 could have told you this.
All the good talent left a long time ago, amd the current staff is trying to mimic the works of their predecessors by hearsay, old design docs, and the art Cozy Kaneko provided. He still hasn't been confirmed on V staff, very worrisome
V will likely be a mess upon release, and only 'cleaned up' with the inevitable DLC route.
PQ2 doesn't need to exist. The artstyle is more than enough ugliness to dissuade most sane people away and leaving the fetid pile for the faggots, fujoshits & normalfaggots.
The fact that they are focusing on P6 and not fixing the garbage fire that is P5 speaks volumes of their integrity and care for their own franchises.
840a2c No.15352557
>>15352484
Other than the "friendship is magic" bullshit, which has been a pervasive element of every Persona game since 3, what's wrong with P5? I fixed the syntax of the second image (used to be "Hee Ho Hold the fuck up", took 6 gorillion years in paint, rate my OC
79fead No.15352647
>>15352557
>rate my OC
Move the "HO" closer to each other, as well as the "-LD" within it's own line. A little extra space between the left edge and the start of "FUCK" would also provide a bit more breathing room. 7/10.
840a2c No.15352650
>>15352647
I literally just used the middle line from the h to do that… I'll screw around with it though.
ddc1c1 No.15352653
>>15352363
In my case I changed locations, and I do it fairly frequently; I was ddc1c1
edaf37 No.15352667
>>15352250
Stop eating sugar, especially fructose, and you'll be amazed how much weight you loose.
840a2c No.15352687
>>15352647
What about now?
49dd60 No.15352695
>>15352557
>it's possiblyjack frost avatarfag
Okay m8, I'll give (You) this one bite, and that's it.
P5's scenario got rewritten and rushed after the death of Igor's seiyuu, effectively scrapping the original P5, save some characters but personalities changed or backstories redone. You can see this in the erratic pacing during the mid game, and so much missed time because they didn't have time to write/script/act. This is again thanks to the game being redone midway through.
The game holds your hand throughout the entire journey as if it was a guided tour. That makes the person playing the game feel very patronized and insulted.
The combat is piss easy and never proved a challenge, even on 'hard mode.'
The dropping of shadow enemies is two steps backwards, in my opinion, and it serves no purpose for the story. The only reason demons are enemies is because this game was a tech demo for the SMTV engine, and instead of designing new shadows, they can simply use the demon models that were developed for V
The S-Links themselves are uninteresting, and only two give objectively good and worthwhile completion bonuses.Lil' Nobunaga and Slut Kawakami
The daily life is shit, as I mentioned above, it feels like a guided tour.
You are given the feign of free agency, and gated in with constant in world events/flags blocking paths.
Mementos was horrible. It feels as if they took the whiniest complaints about tartarus and cranked it up to fifteen, just to spite you for buying this shit. Long, narrow hallways and multi path forks. The enemies are a joke, and the treasure usually isnt worth the time unless gold(and even then, it would only be good for sell fodder). The mementos quests that tie in to every s link completion is another way to get someone turned off from your game.
>Hey, you know that shitty dungeon you visit to start the next chapter of the game?
>Yeah, I'm gonna need you to go down there for other bullshit so you can get your s links and other subquests
Come on, seriously?
Tartarus was actually fun to dick around in, as there was a sense of putting shit on the line when traversing. If you got greedy and went too far in underprepared, or for too long, you could get your shit pushed in.
There isn't this sort of thing in Mementos, everything feels so safe, and the exit is always within reach. You never have to worry about enemies catching you as they are too slow. And even if you are retarded enough to get hit, guess what? The demon youre going to fight is likely much weaker than you, and only exists to waste time via loading/transition screens.
The bosses are all a pushover. The most I died to a boss was probably shadow sae/leviathan, and that was only once!
You see what I'm trying to say here?
P5 is shit.
If you genuinely think it is "good," you are mentally retarded.
52384c No.15352878
>>15352557
P5 has made a number of improvements in combat and dungeons over P3 and P4, sure, but the cancerous life sim elements are still around and ruin the game. And they are unfortunately far too popular to ever go away.
I'm afraid the Persona series is beyond saving. The best we can get out of it at this point is the PQ spinoffs.
840a2c No.15352900
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>>15352695
>[CONTEMPLATIVE JAZZ MUSIC]
<I see you too are a man of culture.jpg I can't find it in my meme folder, plz no bully
>jack frost avatarfag
I'm actually the guy that told him the syntax was fucked up a month or so ago, finally got around to fixing it myself.
>Pacing
I did wonder why early game was fun as fuck and then mid game tapered off HARD. I don't really follow the development of the games that much, I probably should now.
>Hand holding
<You're tired, goyim. Don't you wanna go to sleep?
<Do you know what their palace's name could be? Here we'll just tell you with supposition because you're too braindead to figure it out on your own.
That is something I really liked about Persona 4, you actually had to do detective work. A little here and there throughout the game, and a lot during the endings. It was comfy.
>Easy combat
Completely agree
>The dropping of shadow enemies was a mistake
I rather like the use of demons as enemies like Persona 1 and 2.
>Uninteresting S-Links
But, anon. There is only one S-Link in the game. pic related
>Everything else
Completely agree.
77c849 No.15352920
>>15352079
> I was told Apocalypse fixed that.
It fixed nothing.
92e5de No.15352934
>>15352878
i don't believe people enjoy the cringy slice of life segments, they slow down the game to a halt and just makes you wish you were actually fighting shit in a dungeon
52384c No.15353040
>>15352934
You can find those modern fans on just about every Persona-related comment section on the internet, saying how they find the original trilogy too boring to play because there are no "social links" and stuff. They talk about that all the time.
Sadly, those people exist and there are tons of them.
79fead No.15353262
6ab80d No.15353267
>>15352878
>P5 has made a number of improvements in combat and dungeons over P3 and P4,
I still can't use status effects on anything considered a "boss" in this game so it can go fuck itself. Even when it's a shadow I already know the weakness of sometimes. Team swapping is the only real improvement as it curtails the issue of nobody else being able to shift persona but it's best benefit is gated behind an entire social link so by the time you get it it's only useful for the last dungeon unless you knew to max that one as soon as possible.
Negotiations are back but anything relating to your party intervening is RNG so I've still yet to see them despite using the majority of the dungeon talking to demons to get items once I've secured my infiltration route. I don't even think thats statistically possible. What happened to just letting party members interact outside of more than cutscenes in Persona? At least in P3 your group generally didn't like each other so it made sense you had to bridge the gap and earn their trust to get benefits. And there weren't any negotiations so there was no need for what Persona 2 did excellently with letting party members work together to sway demons. Hell, it even gave an actual voice and personality to Tatsuya and Maya in their respective roles as the silent main character. Now you're just some bland anime self insert.
I could write a laundry list of reasons why Persona 5's combat system and dungeon designs are still an inferior product both within the context of this series, and with RPGs in general. I put up a Great wall of Text in the last persona thread and even that didn't scratch the surface of how mediocre this game is. They aren't improving anything with this game, they just made another Persona 4 to get that money.
ddc1c1 No.15353275
>>15353040
>I put up a Great wall of Text in the last persona thread and even that didn't scratch the surface of how mediocre this game is.
(re)post it and continue
9adfa9 No.15353277
I think lots of stuff they put out is still good like Etrian Odyssey and Persona 5. That poor game was a pretty major misstep made even worse by Nintendo's interference.
ddc1c1 No.15353280
29cec9 No.15353299
9adfa9 No.15353352
>>15352934
>>15353040
I liked the stories of Persona 4 and 5. Persona 3 was a little less interesting for me just because of the comparitive lack of human bosses. They fill a good little niche. I think it's nice to have a relaxing game that is punctuated with dungeon runs and boss fights. I do hope that the next one has a little more variety plot-wise just because I really like the general idea of "weird shit happens in the real world" that made Persona 1 so entertaining. That's why I liked the last of Persona 4 so much too.
9adfa9 No.15353360
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>>15353352
*last month of Persona 4
f46d32 No.15353424
>>15352557
Next to everything with the characters, story, pacing, dungeons and everything after not-Nanako's Egyptian hissy fit. Also the lack of any actual edge (not the meme) despite it being an obvious inversion of Persona 2.
Toy guns. That simple. Only decent thing was the Cake and cinnebun and that's not worth it.
b05bc4 No.15353459
P5 would be better if all of the party dialogue in dungeons was completely cut out of the game. It's just a bad idea the devs had and nobody made the call to cut it.
f46d32 No.15353492
>>15352695
YOU MISSED:
>area locations are locked behind certain S.Links/Confidants so you have to know which ones you need and at what rank they unlock
>certain important gameplay features are locked behind S.Links/Confidants so combat is technically gimped if you don't rank up with them and get it
>terrible narrative framing device in the "interrogation" which:
>>1. spoils every upcoming boss and event right before it happens
>>2. wastes another potential S.Link and character for said S.Link on yet another (there are already four) rail-road unavoidable S.Links
>>3. ruins the narrative pacing even further by constantly cutting back to things
>>4. makes no sense and is an obvious late-draft inclusion to the script to have a something actually resemble Lupin (the "I'm not dead or really captured" plot trick )
Also
>said plot trick only works by obfuscating and hiding key dialogue and events from the player despite the play character - the insert of the player - knowing them full well
this is given a pathetic cover with "muh drugs" but raises more questions, like why Sae would even be allowed any interrogation if even the chief of police was in on it and the drugs were given to get a forced confession out of the protag
>Pancake Lad is a serial killer who's early-game subway assassination also murdered dozens in collateral damage
>Pancake Lad's entire motivation was a flimsy excuse for not taking revenge immediately
<Pancake Lad just had daddy issues
>Pancake Lad, the serial mass murderer with daddy issues who tried to kill you and did murder one of the characters' parents (two parents actually) is played off at the very last millisecond as redeemable and self-sacrificial
>big boss was a joke and his motivation was dumb (not ultra nationalistic but just some guy who wanted power because ego or whatever)
>last boss was Castlevania shooting Geometry
>final dungeon proved that none of the villains actually changed. Everything was pointless. Kamoshida even jokes about being a lech which someone who was actually sobbing over being a rapist would never do
<inb4 muh geometry boss was doing that though
Still doesn't change the facts, and no he wasn't. He was amplifying their apathy not undoing the theives' work
>KEY PLOT POINTS ARE SHOWN IMMEDIATELY TOO EARLY (Haru's dad being assassinated by Berserk Armor Pancake Lad for example, which the game plays off as somehow the player not knowing this)
>everything about the Chief of Police and all that is pointless and goes nowhere
>NONE of the main characters' S.Links are sincere but are all nothing more than anime this and anime that. No actual trauma, heart or etc.
>Not-Nanako is Nickelodeon Watamote
>Ryuji
Just EVERYTHING about Ryuji (except for his S.Link)
>Ann is a braindead troglodyte
>Makoto has no real character or growth
>the cat
>the music is "acid jazz" but sounds like ass aside from two tracks and you immediately know what they are because they are the only memorable ones not regurgitated in your ears every fight or event
>no real weapons
>no real crimes
>not even underage drinking
TO HELL WITH THIS TOOTHLESS CRAP OH COME ON
etc. etc.
b05bc4 No.15353513
>>15353492
>final dungeon proved that none of the villains actually changed.
They did change, but the change made them part of the larger societal problem rather than causing their own unique problems.
f21db6 No.15353523
although persona 3 is arguably nu-atlus, I don't think they can do a character like jubei where he's your scooby doo shaggy side-kick who has a legitimate reason to actively resent and hate the protagonist for making him the side-kick to begin with. it's like having a real-life friend who is passive and nice turn out to secretly hate you and wants you to fail.
not to mention, ginko who turned out to be a literal whore with daddy issues
d6b82a No.15353532
Are any of these games worth playing? I have never played a JRPG that wasn't tedious and grindy, what exactly is the appeal of Persona/SMT/whatever?
>>15352250
If he isn't lying then his day to day activities involve a fair amount of physical work.
b05bc4 No.15353536
>>15353532
>I have never played a JRPG that wasn't tedious and grindy
If you dislike grinding, you're better off not playing SMT.
f21db6 No.15353539
>>15353536
SMT itself is light on grinding, it's more about smart demon fusing, but Persona is the grindy series
000000 No.15353541
>>15349571
Supporting companies and helping them grow always makes those companies turn into shit.
When they get too much money, they will want more. And thus, they will cater to whatever mindless groups blindly spend their money, and make products for those mindless cattle.
Supporting the industry makes the industry worse.
Never let any group or company grow too much.
8fd895 No.15353542
>>15352695
>P3 is shit.
>If you genuinely think it is "good," you are mentally retarded.
:3c
ddc1c1 No.15353544
>>15353532
>Persona/SMT/whatever
Demons and fusion, dungeon-crawling, very "extreme" combat (in that you can turn yourself or your demons into nukes if you know how to fight, but also get nuked in turn yourself if you're not careful, ), high difficulty quotient, usually decent-good story and characters, gray morality systems with difficult choices to make, etc
6a4290 No.15353560
>>15351272
>SMT4 isn't much worse from where the rest of us are standing.
speak for yourself faggot
f46d32 No.15355323
>>15353523
>not to mention, ginko who turned out to be a literal whore with daddy issues
and drug abuser who got her friends into tricking themselves out for money as well.
What did you expect from (((Silverman)))?
Ginko is best girl
1207ff No.15355387
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure no one asked for a Strange Journey remake. The DS version was good enough.
6a4290 No.15361090
>>15355387
Nobody asked for any of the fatlus remakes.
1207ff No.15361359
>>15361090
We got only 3 remakes that can be considered good. Everything else is a farce.
c70e4f No.15361394
>>15350861
This is just the first floor
4540ad No.15361404
>>15351507
>>15351563
>id hopping this obvious
6a27f8 No.15361408
>>15361394
no matter how many times i play it i always dread this part.
2e657e No.15361415
>>15361404
>(1)
Eat shit fag
312a71 No.15361447
I fear the day Atlus "remakes' Devil Summoner and the "remake" becomes the only way to play the game in english. It's gonna be a damn shame that people won't be able to experience a good game in a non-fucked manor.
4540ad No.15361502
>>15352878
Even though I like SMT a bit more than Persona I have to admit that I enjoy the VN elements. It's a nice change from the extremely dark setting of the main SMT timeline.
>I want Persona to be SMT
Cancer.
>>15353267
>status effects on anything considered a "boss"
Status effects are what makes SMT 1 & 2 a walk in the park
>any zio magic + sword/gun
>repeat
4540ad No.15361512
350fb1 No.15361567
>>15355323
Lisa may have been a whore, but she's a qt nonetheless.
(The best girl is Maya though.)
>>15361502
>"I want Persona to be SMT"
Your strawman fails from the get-go. The original Persona trilogy was quite different from SMT, and arguably even better than SMT.
4540ad No.15361570
>>15361359
You mean six.
1. Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei (remake of Megami Tensei 1 & 2)
2. PS1 version SMT if…
3. PS1 version of SMT
4. PS1 version of SMT 2
5. Persona 3 Portable
6. Persona 4 Golden
1207ff No.15361642
>>15361570
I mainly meant the 3DS remakes with both Devil Survivors and Soul Hackers.
472297 No.15361656
>>15361502
Persona could have provided contrast to SMT, but the problem is the people that make Persona can't keep their retardation in check and its spilled over into everything they do. They can't even port the original Persona(s) without perverting them.
For example here is the battle music for the original game:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=7CR3yfusRQs
Here is the battle music in the PSP remake:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=HPHJJY8GhMY
Persona 1 and both versions of 2 were remade to be more accommodating for players that started with 4 rather than let them experience what the originals were like and how the series changed over time. That pisses me off.
1207ff No.15361678
>>15361656
Need I remind you that there are people out there that want remakes of older SMTs and Personas along with EO3 despite the shitty track record Atlus has with it's remakes.
4540ad No.15361752
>>15361656
I haven't played the P1 or P2 ports, because of shit like this, but P3P and P4G are better than the originals.
>>15361685
>You can't spend all your time obsessing over anime tits
Exactly, DFCs need love too.
59154d No.15361849
>>15350720
>bait-tan
I did not know I needed this in my life
472297 No.15361901
>>15361752
The NTSC-U PS1 games are the censored versions, the PSP versions aren't censored, but kept "Mark danced crazy!"
4540ad No.15361991
>>15361901
>PSP versions aren't censored,
One of them is definitely censored, because that's a screenshot from the PSP version.
dcf046 No.15362007
>>15349571
>Etrian Odyssey
>good
TOP KEK :^)
5e361a No.15362010
>>15362007
>I don't like a custom name in an English trailer so the entire series is shit :^)
dcf046 No.15362055
>>15362010
It's a fucking SJW pedo webcomic reference. There's no salvaging EO.
Before you pull the "m-muh lolcalization!!!" card, the Japs allowed this to happen.
4e70e3 No.15362076
>>15349571
welcome back to the real world. Atlus do these weird ports, they did them back with Catherine to Shin Megami Tensei 4 release.
I've followed the Atlus release of news and games, so I get an idea of how big the particular game they are releasing and how safe they are.
So this batch after Persona 5 is the games you folks are against, but if you watch of what other games would've been released if this was the time window of SMT4 release then this is not so strange, this is around the time of Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked 3ds version is released or Persona 2 is released.
But back then they did not need to do allot of things to the games because they where somewhat new or they where older then 10 years.
Now with SMT Strange Journey and Radiant Historia perfect chronicles they could not just release the game as is, mainly because Strange Journey is about 9 years old and Radiant Historia is 8 years old.
And in Japan you can get all of these games pretty easily online or a store that sells old games.
So they needed a hock, and that was the new characters or remake in art which was the case for Strange Journey Redux.
Radiant Historia I don't know what is new and old in the game but my guess is that it's a character that is new.
With Catherine I don't really care all to much mainly because it's the original makers that is remaking it and putting in the new character, it's the guys that should've been working on their new Fantasy game but for some reason thought it was OK to remake another one.
Fuck this gay earth.
6a1030 No.15362100
>>15362055
>being legit autistic
point at this nigger and laugh
4a38cd No.15362103
>>15362055
>It's a fucking SJW pedo webcomic reference
What?
730f9d No.15362107
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15349571
>>15349605
Persona 4 and by extension Persona 3 happened. The old games were niche and did whatever the fuck the team wanted, but when Persona 3 hit, it was essentially a new franchise at that point by the way, they got enough money for a sequel, and when Persona 4 hit, it had mass appeal and got a shit ton of money.
So Atlus was like "What the fuck?", analyzed why they succeeded and figured that it was because of the tone of the game and the extra style it had, so Atlus released re-releases and went hard into the paint on the franchising, plays, t-shirts, Dancing All Night because the devs were cheap, etc. And they started putting Persona devs into the writing team for SMT4 and relegated it to a portable because it was cheaper on permits while their main console game became Persona Persona Persona fucking 5.
dcf046 No.15362122
>>15362103
It's a reference to Homestuck, a comic that promotes pedophilia. Ask >>15362100 about it, he seems to be a big fan.
4e70e3 No.15362126
>>15362107
This little explanation do explain allot but still I do wonder why they let the nocturne, Catherine and Persona 3 - 5 team make a new studio then work on a fantasy game, would that not be suicide?
Since if they are working on a new Persona game probably 6, and that does not feel like Persona 3-5 then most people would want their money back or revolt.
ddc1c1 No.15362166
>>15361991
Persona 1 on the PSP wasn't censored
Persona 2 its not the fault of the localizers, he was known as "fuhrer" in Japan's version of the PSP remake; its a funny reversal as the PS1 version wasn't censored and the localizers called him hitler
Supposedly it was changed for this reason:
>The CERO has a rule which states that people with a real background (such as Adolf Hitler) may not appear in fictional media.
So Japanese ESRB's rules must've changed between the PSX and PSP remake to do that.
4540ad No.15362172
>>15362007
Best thing would be if Atlus stopped releasing games for the west and stick to Japan and SEA English releases, but thats not going to happen so we have to live with butchered SJW translations, garbage voice acting and shit like this >>15362007
4695ed No.15362212
>>15352250
He had a lot of muscle at the start. A high protein diet helps you keep muscle while losing weight. If he had lifted along side the diet, he'd have kept even more muscle.
ddc1c1 No.15362257
>>15362172
>Garbage voice-acting
Atlus has good voice-acting though, at least in the games I've played so far.
>Butchered SJW translations
Again, I pointed out how Persona 2 were fucked in the japanese versions; nothing to do with the localizers, and I don't think that was a reference to any comic; their translations are also fine.
and in the case of Atlus Japan their newest shitty remakes were made for eastern audiences according to
>>15362076
and they ruined key parts of the game, has nothing to do with their localizers.
4e70e3 No.15362307
>>15362257
which games where ruined you kinda need to elaborate on such statements.
If it's making SMT Strange Journey easier then OK, I can see how a die hard would see it that way.
If it's Radiant Historia perfect chronology I dunno what was changed and what was not changed in the game, but I did find it weird that they just made one game and never planed on making a sequel.
6a4290 No.15362335
>>15362307
The art in both Strange Journey Redux and Radiant Historia PC is fucked and in case of Radiant Historia, the original one is chopped up and being sold as fucking DLC.
4540ad No.15362361
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15362257
>Atlus has good voice-acting though, at least in the games I've played so far.
See vid.
1/2
4540ad No.15362367
>>15362257
>Again, I pointed out how Persona 2 were fucked in the japanese versions
I'm not talking about Persona 2. Shit like pic related and Futaba saying "kek". Not to mention they took like 4 years or so for their translation.
2/2
2c5c1f No.15362391
>>15361752
>P3P and P4G are better than the originals.
>P3P
>Completely removed the 3D backgrounds and the actual exploring of the environment
>Turned the game into just a visual novel
>This was clearly a design limitation due to the PSP
>When they made P4G they avoided doing this because they were aware how much this sucked
>The game also lacks the anime style cutscenes in the original
>The only thing they added was the female protagonist who has worse social links than the male one
>Female protagonist doesn't do the badass gunflip the male protagonist does when he summons his persona. She just lazily puts it to her head. Doesn't even do something cool but elegant like Mitsuru.
>better
923157 No.15362421
>>15362307
They retconned all the endings of the original to make way for the new mary sue character
They fucked over the perfect true ending for Radiant Historia
>>15362367
Wasn't Futaba obsessed with imageboards or something and isn't her name even a reference to imageboards?
I also don't know enough about P5's translation so I won't speak to that; I'll concede there
923157 No.15362428
>>15362307
Also your english reminds me of a spic girl I know who who happens to like SMT
2c5c1f No.15362437
>>15362421
>Wasn't Futaba obsessed with imageboards or something and isn't her name even a reference to imageboards?
Her first name is a reference to Futaba Channel which is also known as "2chan". Her mother's name Wakaba is a reference to the software that runs that site.
923157 No.15362449
>>15362367
Forgot
>Not to mention they took like 4 years or so for their translation.
Eh?
4e70e3 No.15362464
>>15362335
I did not have any problem with Strange Journey only found the game to be somewhat easier, it's kinda expected that they would have the game be more light in it's representation when Persona 3 design is Atlus big games.
After all, Persona 3 bleeds into everything it touches.
>>15362421
Now this is more interesting, so they essentially fucked over the previous games and if they are making a sequel they are going to have these changes.
>>15362428
I'm not a spic or a girl.
2c5c1f No.15362465
>>15362367
>Not to mention they took like 4 years or so for their translation.
Game was translated in a year
The game took way longer to develop than either P3 or P4 entirely because they created a new engine for the game. Which was clearly the right call for the game and something that paid off considerably.
2c5c1f No.15362495
>>15362470
>better combat
Never understood this the game played fine to me
>you can actually control party members
I thought this unbalanced the game and made it too easy. Bosses like sleeping table or The Reaper in the original are trivial in P3P. The entire game is actually like that because they didn't bother to rebalance it to take into account being able to control party members.
>skill cards
Again makes the game too easy compared to the original
>no cutscenes
It just cheapens the actual story to the game and makes it so you have to watch awkward in-engine cutscenes. It wasn't what the developers intended.
Imagine for example if Persona 3 FES was on PC and they updated it to the Persona 3 Portable build of the game and this was the only version you could play. It would be ridiculous.
>Also FeMC.
Who has worse social links and no gunflip. Also no Elizabeth. While her artistic design is great the tradeoffs are really bad.
06bf94 No.15362513
>>15353492
>the music is "acid jazz" but sounds like ass aside from two tracks and you immediately know what they are because they are the only memorable ones not regurgitated in your ears every fight or event
such bad taste
17c440 No.15362537
>>15349662
I enjoy fan service but its possible to have both fan service and world building.
78b527 No.15362578
>>15362569
Because they're retarded
f46d32 No.15362616
>>15351563
>that pic
Well obviously you'll lose definition and get fat because you're not exercising and just eating meat. Good luck with the gout and apnea, idiot.
f46d32 No.15362640
>>15352250
>does that mean no exercise?I eat meat all the fucking time and I still look average with some fat
>falling for this nonsense
>there are people like this
>you are one of them
>you exist
Yes, anon. Eating mostly if not exclusively meat and no exercise will not only lose you weight but will also not harm your physique or muscles at all, but in fact will get you vague muscular definition to your body.
17c440 No.15362647
>>15362616
Generally with before and after pictures the before is on the left and the after is on the right
06bf94 No.15362695
>>15362616
HAHA LOOKS LIKE THOSE MANGAS HAVE ROTTEN YOUR BRAIN
16d4f0 No.15362977
>>15351507
I recall this place liking it too, or did I just imagine that dozens upon dozens of threads that were had following Persona 5’s release? It’s just that /v/ can not stand enjoying anything that’s popular, because it will always be full of hipsters.
ddc1c1 No.15363019
>>15362977
There are people here who liked it a lot
There are also people who felt ambivalent on it, and people who didn't like it at all (usually this is the hardcore SMT/Old persona community)
This has always been the case and there have always been people who shat on NuPersona even in those threads, kys
2c5c1f No.15363550
>>15362569
>And why are they using the U4 engine for SMT5?
Presumably SMT5 is going to have a different development team who isn't accustomed to the P5 engine they made. So they're going to make it on UE4 because it's already built for huge projects and there's a lot more documentation available. They can also outsource development to other companies a lot easier.
With a lot of these big companies they generally only use Unreal/Unity if they have to. Since they're starting to realize that they can just instead use their own proprietary engines they already have and not pay Epic a nickle. You can see it especially with Bethesda where a lot of their subsidiaries like Arkane used to use licensed engines like Unreal and Source and now just use a modified Id tech 6 engine.
57ac7a No.15363655
>>15362007
>etrian Odyssey III
>arguably the best in the series
>being this upset over some trailer with homestuck names in the custom name field
At least be mad over the shit they pulled when they got onto the 3DS instead of this complete non-issue.
>>15361394
Yeah, Sector E was a nightmare but toughing it out comes with the territory.
4e70e3 No.15363681
>>15363550
they are using U4 engine for SMTV , they even said that they could test stuff more easily then go back to work if that thing did not work.
But in general it seem there are allot of Japanese that just uses Unreal 4 on games.
I wonder if re-fantasy is going to use unreal or the P5 engine.
74bc32 No.15363764
Persona 3-5 were all masterpieces and the franchise will only keep getting better and selling more with each installment
350fb1 No.15363868
>>15362166
>The CERO has a rule which states that people with a real background (such as Adolf Hitler) may not appear in fictional media.
So, did they lift that rule, or do they just bend it depending on the person?
d15a9d No.15363904
>>15351563
I don't use facebook, but does some anon who does want to find this guys profile and post it here? In his screencap he has:
Marko Borjan:
https://www.facebook.com/marko.borjan.73
World Carnivore Tribe:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/worldcarnivoretribe/
Friends named:
Ævar
Guilli
L Amber
Asa
Peter
Profile picture of someone lifting weights
That's all I could get without it prompting me for a facebook account. Looking forward for results
ab2a23 No.15363969
840a2c No.15364154
>>15361567
>Whore
>A male who engages in sexual acts for money
What is this (((Merriam-Webster)))? That's called a gigolo.
350fb1 No.15364322
>>15363764
Alphaomegasin, is that you?
You're only right about the "selling more" part, sadly.
a53a72 No.15364359
>>15349571
>that pic
Wait, were you trying to tell me Atlus got worse? Seems to me like an improvement
4b4dfa No.15364362
>>15362166
>The CERO has a rule which states that people with a real background (such as Adolf Hitler) may not appear in fictional media.
That must be why games like Musou don't exist huh, Anon.
350fb1 No.15364432
>>15364359
To the modern pleb audience they're catering to, sure it seems like an improvement. I guess you'd fit right in with them.
ddc1c1 No.15364462
>>15364362
I just pulled that from the wiki they have on it
840a2c No.15364595
e >>15364432
>CalArts nose on wholesome Aegis.
DELET THIS!
350fb1 No.15364641
>>15364595
And nothing of value was lost.
840a2c No.15364702
>>15364641
The instructions must not have been clear.
1207ff No.15367598
Looks like Yamai wants to do a port or remake of Nocturne.
http://archive.is/tOKGu
6a4290 No.15367679
>>15367598
A port would be fine but I am afraid of a remake
Modern fatlus games somehow manage to be more clunky than the ps2 ones and they'll probably replace the vocals in the ost completely ruining it.
6a27f8 No.15367726
>>15367679
i would like a remake. i played that game a lot so i would prefer new content instead of the same game again with no changes. the way stats in that game work and the damage for magic should be changed
79fead No.15367793
>>15367726
That's a big monkey's paw with current Atlus. Fuck it, I'm going to go make a better quality stitch of that one anon's rant about nuRadiant Historia.
6a4290 No.15367795
>>15367726
>the way stats in that game work and the damage for magic should be changed
They'll just fuck it up like SMT 4 where the difference between highest tier spells/abilities and the lowest ones is negligible and remove a bunch of attributes.
6a27f8 No.15367815
>>15367795
have you see the hardmode mod on game faqs? they do some nice changes to make it interesting again though i couldnt play it cause it was too slow on my laptop
6a4290 No.15367839
>>15367815
You mean this?
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/
Its less of a hardtype hack and more of a casualization with arbitrary changes.
>Trafuri is removed
>Tetra/Makarakarn now only affect the caster
literally why
a53a72 No.15367841
>>15364432
>2deep4u oldfag
Yeah, nah, you're a cunt
1207ff No.15367914
>>15367726
They will almost certainly fuck it up if they're going to remake it. A HD port is the best case scenario, no exceptions.
98f61a No.15367931
>>15361656
>I haven't played the P1 or P2 ports
that means you haven't even played like a third of Persona 1
c1ebc7 No.15367943
>>15367793
>>15367914
its possible that they won't, they're about 60/40 on RPG remakes for the 3DS, with Devil Survivor 1, 2 and Soul Hackers being good and Radiant Historia and SJ being bad
1207ff No.15367999
>>15367943
Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold is bad too while the first one is ok, not good. Since EO2U, RH and SJ are the most recent ones it's not a stretch to say Nocturne will be ruined too.
53cc9f No.15368010
>>15367931
that reminds me, now that I have a proper Upscaler I can play with good looking video output on my psp 2000. since I already beat the usa version of the PSX original when I was a kid, I guess I should do the snow queen quest… right?
62e646 No.15368102
>>15367598
As someone who recently put far too much time into Nocturne again recently drew maps of all the areas on graph paper, the QoL changes I want are:
1. Skill inheritance not being completely random Jesus Christ, it was painful getting Phys Drain on early game demons to make it less of a grind. I can understand something point-based so that stronger skills require more demons as input, but the IV/P5 system would be nice, too.
2. Back-attacks can't immediately game over you if your health is full enough
3. Better rewards for going for Reason Endings. The only such reward is Samael on Shijima, and he's not that strong. God's Curse, Beast Eye, Rakukaja, Rakukaja intensifies
4? Magatama skills using a system more toward DDS would be nice. Perhaps certain skills could be kept on reserve, but not so that the list of usable skills is crammed full of useless ones. That said, keeping Boost skills on until endgame should still be rewarded accordingly.
Not sure how I feel about mystical chests only being openable during Full Kagutsuchi for 100% chance at rewards. Maybe add the encounters into opening the chest manually, obviating them if Kagutsuchi is full, and cutting down on walking in place otherwise?
Likewise, not sure if I'd like the compendium to have progressive discounts up to 50% off for 100% completion. Somewhat related, but the races with one or two representative demons were always weird to me (like Raptor and Avian).
Would also be interesting if shields from DDS made a comeback, but I'm not sure Nocturne's built around it
b3ff7e No.15369870
Looks like PQ2 will have some kind of 3-man team move called "Unison".
>>15367598
>Atlus' Yamai-san is assuring fans that the team is still working hard on SMTV. They won't have any compromises for SMTV to make it deserving as a mainline title. Most chars are now moving on the machine. Info will be released later when the time is ripe.
That was the only important tweet on the page you linked.
Fuck remakes. They just betray the design of the original. SMTIII is fine the way it is. I suppose a port would be nice for the people who don't already have the game.
>>15367841
>oldfag
No. Played the original trilogy after the later titles, not before. The OT is infinitely superior, no matter how old you are or which order you play them.
3c5041 No.15370164
>>15349747
yea due to fucking censorship you faggot
caa836 No.15370213
>>15370164
The censorship was a factor, but let's not forget it flopped even in its uncensored form in Japan. The real killer was that for a game that advertised itself as SMT x FE, it seemed more like Persona x FE. The FE side of it was also screwed because the representation was literally only Akaneia + Awakening, and the idolshit pandering wasn't what anyone wanted out of this.
830447 No.15370218
>>15362495
i really want to fuck the female MC
fe3fcc No.15373298
Just finished SMT 4
Jesus christ what a wet fart of a game. Its like they took everything interesting about it, threw it in the trash and then called it an ending.
2e657e No.15373527
c3e0f7 No.15375814
>>15349571
>with the exception of Etrian Odyssey
Compare the original EO with the remake and the latest then tell me it hasn't fundamentally changed.
1207ff No.15376974
>>15375814
You mean the series that decided to do a compliation game rather than a shitty remake of the third one. The second untold is DLC-ridden garbage and it sold like shit.
a49fc1 No.15376999
To be honest the Japanese make shitty games and if you're into them you have no fucking taste whatsoever. Imagine being such a weeaboo that you're totally blind to how garbage Japanese games are.
838dfc No.15377635
>>15349571
>top: chaos path
>bottom: law path
838dfc No.15377647
>>15376999
Fuck off, Phil Fish.
f6be97 No.15380452
PQ2's PV02 is out. Plenty of gameplay info this time, including a bit of the Velvet Room.
Sadly, I can't upload it here because the admins are poorfags who can't afford to raise the file size limit on the site. So here's a screenshot instead.
>Climax Theater
Well, Soejima is officially taunting us at this point.
Anyway, I think they should have given Theo that position instead of Liz. That way, we would at least get a nice bad pun out of it. "Climax Theodore". Missed opportunity there.
>>15370164
Whatever you say, Ishida.
25aa1e No.15380521
>>15353459
P5 would be better if ALL dialogue was removed.
f6be97 No.15380689
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15380452
Well, it's come to my attention that Invidious embedding is now a thing, so I'm just gonna embed the new trailer right here.
2b9b3d No.15381001
I have eclectic tastes. Played P2-3-4-5 and DDS1-2. Liked them all.
2b9b3d No.15381021
>>15370164
Atlus trying to make an idol game and then censoring it was so stupid. Atlus is no KTGust that's for sure.
If you want to make pedo bait COMMIT. I want naked underage flesh.
aa7010 No.15381071
>>15349579
I'm legitimately impressed that somebody bothered to fix the typo in the original image. Good on them.
2b9b3d No.15381123
>>15352363
Mobile networks anon. My IP changes every few hours. Considering I have an unlimited data plan I prefer 4G over WiFi. Its actually faster.
Anyway OT: Catherine is a game that resonates with the "mature games for mature people", "I hate anime" and "I don't want to play as a teenager" crowd. SJWera likes it. Well they did until the tranny thing.
79fead No.15381236
>>15381021
>Atlus trying to make an idol game and then censoring it was so stupid.
Considering it was also a Nintendo game (in that it started development under the idea of SMT x FE), would it not be likely that NoA and NoE forced the censorship? Not to say Atlus dindu nuffin (there's games they'll censor on their own at times, usually via having the artist redraw CGs like in DT2), but it just strikes me that given Nintendo's own involvement in the game, and how NoA handles things on their own, they might be more the culprit.
I still am left to wonder why they'd even deign to bring it over if it was going to piss absolutely everybody that might have once been interested in it off, be it those that wanted SMT x FE (and were already angry by the game being changed), or those that did want an idol RPG and what should have come with it (and was removed/changed). Makes me wonder if the entire idea to release here was simply to ruin it out of spite for the people that did want would it had turned into.
b14727 No.15381402
>>1538100
Nanako is well-hung
52384c No.15381761
A bit more info. Fusion menu screenshots confirm a bunch of persona names and their level requirements in the game.
Looking forward to getting Okuninushi at level 25. He is my fuckin bro and I use him in every game I can, no matter how disadvantaged he is.
Also, PQ2 is scheduled to have a presentation during TGS. (Let's hope Atlus will also give us some SMTV news while they're there.)
>>15381123
>Catherine is a game that resonates with the "mature games for mature people", "I hate anime" and "I don't want to play as a teenager" crowd.
Catherine is a game that has plenty of anime cutscenes, so that must be a very confused crowd.
1207ff No.15383542
>>15381761
I'm actually looking forward to this since this is the last EO dual-screen gameplay. Can't wait to see what the dungeons are like.
335d1d No.15383606
>>15381123
>game that brings back gameplay from a long time ago and does a good job at it
>game that has a story that doesn't rely on fantasizing about how cool high school life should have been for them
>A story that doesn't culminate in the power of friendship and highschool experiences triumphing over the cause of the big bad in their life
>a story that a person in high school, in a job, or a NEET in his basement could have or could see parts of in their life
>still does crazy japanese shit like running around in underwear, dying in your dreams, sexy photos, traps, and fighting gods
>NOPE IF YOU LIKE IT YOU'RE JUST AN SJWEEB WHO DOESN'T REALLY LIKE ANIME
The blatant dismissal of wanting something that doesn't follow persona to the 'T' is infuriating and another reason why I hate the stupid persona fanbase.I only fear what is to become of SMTV
1bee23 No.15383612
>>15381761
I read New Cinema Labyrinth as Jew Cinema Labyrinth. I hate that pseudo 70s pop art font.
a74ec0 No.15383815
Just saying, it would have been a better justification of her showing her scar NOT TO REMIND HERSELF of her weakness, but to show how confident she is in her own abilities to deal with them. She's so confident that she's daring others to try and go after her where she's supposedly vulnerable. Reminding yourself of your weakness is just reminding yourself of your weakness, instead of doing that, become strong enough to the point you don't have one.
045772 No.15383963
>>15381236
People pointed that Treehouse made them do it at the time it was happening
886e08 No.15385729
>picking Law means you side with Jewish god, YHVH
>picking Chaos means you side with Jewish demon, Lucifer
What a kiked dichotomy. That just leaves the Neutral routes as the only non-Jewish choices.
1a4a04 No.15385760
>>15383606
>still does crazy japanese shit like running around in underwear, dying in your dreams, sexy photos, traps, and fighting gods
>traps
>considering crossdressing faggots a good thing
That you consider literal faggotry to be a positive tells me a whole lot about you. No, it was never ok when Japan did it either.
2032a1 No.15385829
>>15385729
Yup. That's exactly what makes SMT so redpilled.
2b1277 No.15385885
>>15385760
>i don't like a game because politics reee
Go back to reddit.
8d6092 No.15385956
>>15385760
A fair position to take. But if you don't like degeneracy why are you playing Japanese games?
614151 No.15390070
Salvaged? Has Atlus ever made anything other than piles of shit that only weebs enjoy?