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My problem with the game is that I wouldn't know where to go to do things, and also it still has the same gameplay mechanics associated with it. It is inevitable that you'd end up grossly overpowered by level 8-12 even if you don't cheat

>>15341348

>My problem with the game is that I wouldn't know where to go to do things

You have a journal for a reason.

>>15341361

No but like, how do you even get to the new areas? Where are the quest hubs?

Is there even incharacter ways to find this out? Why would your character want to go there

wasn't morrowind abandoned due to eruptions? doesn't that make anything you do there pointless in the end?

>>15341326

Wasn't old ebonheart already released? Did they remake it?

>>15341418

Nerevarine fulfilled the prophecy, killed the Almsivi (Almalexia, Vivec, Sotha Sil) and Dagoth Ur (who had acquired godhood by means of dwemer technology or something like that). Because Vivec wasn't around to use his dick magic to keep the meteor in the sky by the Vivec cantons, it slammed into the earth and caused Red Mountain to blow up

Around this time, Argonians decided they wasn't slaves n shiet and had an uprising and started raping and killing everything in sight, especially the Dark Elves. Redoran(?) even animated the giant mudcrab to fight back it even got fucked, too.

>>15341326

That's so fucking cool. I've been watching the mods that rebuilt other continents as well, and they seemed awesome. I'm looking forward to them because I feel like they'll all mesh wonderfully with OpenMW's multiplayer project.

>>15341464

so you directly cause the events that get morrowind destroyed?

>>15341464

Redoran reviving their giant crab was to fight off the Daedric invasion from the Oblivion gates, Argonians was much later after the Red Mountain blew up and the whole island was all fucked up already.

>>15341372

At the very start, you're given instructions to go to Balmora, which has good beginner points for the fighters guild, mages guild, thieves guild, and House Hlaalu. There's also a nearby legion fort. You're also advised to go by Silt Strider, which has a number of locations for you to decide to got to, instead. If that wasn't enough, Caius even goes so far to point you to the various factions, recommending you get some experience under your belt before you start his quests. After that, the quests you'll find will eventually take you to other cities and place, where you'll find more quests and things to do. Even just following the main quest, you'll visit nearly every major population center in the game, plus a few smaller ones. And, you could always just go randomly explore and find things. The game is built for you to be able to do that.

>>15341563

I know that, I've played MW to death. But I mean as far as the Tamriel Rebuilt stuff

>>15341615

TR is 90% empty space and 8% broken dreams. 2% is actual content (mostly cities without quests or broken quests).

Should I buy skyrim for ps4, vr, or switch?

>>15341326

Does it make Morrowind even slightly fun to play?

>>15341642

Morrowind is best. Morrowind is god. Which version of skyrim should I buy?

>>15341642

No.

>>15341655

Thanks.

>>15341615

Oh. From what I can tell, you basically just have to seek it out, yourself.

>>15341675

>you basically just have to seek it out, yourself.

sounds like a quest. is that a quest? ill write it to my quest log

>>15341372

>Being a Skyrim kid that needs a codified single way to have 'your character' (read:Bethesda promotional material you copied 1:1) to find out 'in character' (read:be force fed a journal update ala Solstheim and led by the hand so you don't have to be creative)

>>15341418

>he thinks the sequels are canon

You've got bigger issues my friend

>>15341418

>Anything after Morrowind is canon

top fucking kek, get out

>>15342015

>morrowind isn't a piece of consolized shit

Go back to cuckchan. Daggerfall is better than morrowind at everything except graphics.

>>15342039

>Daggerfall is better than morrowind

Walking through a random generated landscape is no more fun than reading PI to 25,000 digits.

>>15342039

I like Daggerfall too, but no. The dungeons are better, the scale is nice but more of a sidegrade to the handplaced static world of Morrowind and the character system is okay, but ultimately trivialized by the ease to which it is cheesed. I don't appreciate your uppity newfag tone, but I understand your limitations as a human being and I forgive you.

>play some morrowind for the first time, enjoy the fuck out of it

>"hey lets make this look a bit more pretty with mods"

>see the long list of shit you'd have to do courtesy of the step project site

Well shit. This is going to take a while

Tell me about Aryon! Why does he keep an Imperial Legion soldier prisoners?

Did he screw over the Imperial who built the Imperial part of his tower after he nonchalantly dropped his Tower seed right into the construction side, causing most of the builders to be crushed to death by the roots?

>>15342158

Of course he did. He's a Telvanni wizard. They don't give a fuck about anything but their personal interests.

>>15341372

> quest hubs

What, do you think this is supposed to be WoW?

>>15341372

RPGs might not be for you then. Try Skyrim.

>>15342051

I like daggerfall too but that vast, unpopulated landscape is a huge boner killler.

>>15342051

What's fun about woosh woosh flail then?

>>15341348

I use a mod that makes my character level x4 slower. I was using x2 but even then I leveled too quickly. That with Morrowind Rebirth with its rebalancing makes the game a lot more enjoyable.

>>15342039

Imagine being this much of a contrarian.

Dumbner are the shittiest race.

>>15341638

get a pc and pirate everything

seriously, stop giving money to the industry, build yourself a gaming pc with AMD product (Ryzen) and pirate fucking everything

>>15342039

reminder that all these Daggerfall faggots are just newfag Morrowhiners that see how Morrowind got popular and still want to imagine that they're the true oldfags, so they double-back and jump on Daggerfall as epic oldfag street cred.

>>15341638

if you own a console or some other Jewish shit and pay for fucking videogames, then you are the problem

get a pc and pirate everything, and those games you want to play but cannot pirate because of always online kikery, wait until the steam summer sale and buy them at a deep discount

give as little money as possible, if at all, boycott everything

>>15344404

git gud

>>15344715

I hesitate to call OpenMW "true vanilla" when it doesn't even have the vanilla water shader. OpenMW is just a more polished front-end engine to run Morrowind on if you demand 100% stability. Basically if you really can't stand random crashes go OpenMW and enjoy a generally more solid game engine, if you want a vanilla experience, and I know this is going to shock you but, PLAY THE ORIGINAL GAME. TR I wouldn't describe as for newbies, TR is if you already love morrowind like and addict loves crack and you want even more to explore.

>>15344730

When I said "true vanilla experience" I was more suggesting a version that fixes most bugs while adding QOL changes that don't disturb the original balance in a too obvious way without requiring extensive modding.

I guess what I'm also interested in, how fleshed out and "fixed" is vanilla TR? I've played a retarded amount of vanilla Morrowind in my days and the past months I've experienced a lot of fun in a mostly unmodded OpenMW.

Now I'm still itching for Morrowing content and TR looks like fun.

>>15344715

>>15344747

TR works perfectly fine with OpenMW, you can use both. Although OpenMW does admittedly have some optimization problems with mods that add lots of little objects inside the same cell so expect dips in framerate in some of the more complex and populated areas in TR. Also if you want to play TR go ahead and grab the Skyrim HotN and Province Cyrodiil previews; they're MUCH less developed that TR but what is there so far is great.

maybe I'll check back in five years

they are going to die before they finish this shit

>>15341372

>Is there even incharacter ways to find this out?

Maybe try talking to people.

>>15344772

Thanks anon. How compatible with old saves is TR? Would I be best off at creating a new save game? I realize creating a new game is almost universally the best option to avoid issues but I still thought that I'd ask.

>>15341501

>OpenMW's multiplayer project

And here I was, hoping that they weren't wasting time on pointless bullshit. Silly me.

>>15344802

You should be fine with old saves, TR doesn't really affect anything in Vvardenfell, so long as you don't use the plugin that ties your Vvardenfell faction progress to the mainland ones (it may still work but I dunno). The travels plugin adds fast travel NPC's to the mages guilds to travel to the mainland, but those shouuld be fine on old saves too. Still, you may wanna start over just to be safe, but if you're really attached to those old saves you should be okay.

>>15344814

The people working on the multiplayer mod are separate from the ones working on OpenMW itself

>~59k KB

So for the most part it's just using vanilla Morrowind assets? Not necessarily criticizing, just asking/throwing it out there.

I guess I don't mind, just surprised.

>>15345186

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44537/

You need this .esm file for everything TR/PC/SHotN. Instead of downloading huge master files for all the different province mods, you just download this and it contains all the data for all of them. Load it before TR.

>>15345194

>You mean autistic bullshit?

Yeah, I do you fucking normalfaggot.

I like not having the world being tied to my level and having actual stats like in a real RPG tied to my skills which grants you a greater purpose for leveling up other than increasing your maximum mana/stamina/health.

I enjoy the greater variety of skills such as Medium Armor, Mysticism, Athletics and Acrobatics.

I also think that the weapon skills shouldn't have been dissolved from:

>Spear, Axe, Short Blade, Marksman, Long Blade, Blunt Weapon, Axe and Hand-to-hand

into

<One-handed, two-handed and Archery

>>15345219

Thanks.

>>15345300

I knew this was bait. You were doing really well until this post.

>>15345306

>I knew this was bait

I think everyone did, I just felt like providing some genuine counterpoints since there's actually some people lurking that have not played any of the TES games.

Since this is the designated Morrowind thread, is there anything I should know before I start my first playthrough of the game? I'm thinking of going with a magic based character but I'm going to go with a custom class since the default classes seem to be regarded as worthless.

>>15345467

Get delayed brotherhood attack and solstheim rumor fix, two mods that make sure having the expansions already installed doesnt fuck over your first time.

>>15345467

Pump luck every level since it affects spell casts and every single RNG action you take. Endurance is important to level up as well since you gain health based on your endurance every level up but it's not retroactive.

When you level up a skill you gain 0.5 worth of points for the attribute in it. Meaning if you gain 10 levels in Spear (which governs Endurance) before you lvl up, you'll have the chance of increasing your endurance by the maximum points which is 5. This can be combined with any skill, such as 5 points in spear and 5 points in medium armor.

OpenMW is a good way to play the game in a mostly vanilla state with minimum modding required while caching most bugs.

>>15345499

Also speechcraft and mercantile are for the most part useless besides for role playing purposes.

Speechcraft only lets you bribe NPC's a bit easier in order to increase their affection. A much easier way is to cast a spell of personality on yourself which will nearly max out their affection towards you instantly. You can also bribe most NPC's into liking you without speechcraft taking up any importance.

Mercantile is a bit better where it'll let you change the price when buying/selling but money is largely irrelevant if you know how to earn it. Still a decent skill to level up but not worth putting as a major/minor.

Oh and dont listen to eb16e5, min max bullshit has no place at all in morrowind. You'll be a walking god fast enough anyway

>>15345561

Fatigue potions cost 2 gold to craft. Health potions cost 11 gold to craft. Mana potions cost 86 gold to craft.

This is with the cheapest possible basic ingredients and assuming I remember their cost correctly.

But yeah, alchemy is fucking great.

>>15345573

>min max bullshit has no place at all in morrowind. You'll be a walking god fast enough anyway

That's true, but I can't stop my autism

>>15345582

Me neither but anon is about go on his first playthrough so I imagine putting one point in luck each level will feel very unrewarding and bullshit

>>15345596

Actually I'd say it's good advice for him to pump luck every level, since it's his first time playing the game doesn't really tell you how important luck is for spellcasting. However, giving a new player the advice of training non major/minor skills for min/maxed x5 level-ups is unnecessary, you should do fine just playing the game normally.

>>15345606

>>15345596

Luck has a major, noticeable impact on spell casting and you can easily see it when creating spells (at least in OpenMW, don't know about vanilla) where it'll only take base luck (40) into account but later show the true chance on your spell menu.

I wouldn't have suggested it if he didn't mention going spell for a spell caster. His most important attributes will be Intelligence, Willpower and Luck.

I'll have to agree that minmaxing your attributes is dumb and tedious, especially for your earlier playthroughs even if it hits my autism just right hnnng. It's completely unnecessary. I still think it's important to point out that endurance is a good stat to get early.

Old Ebonheart as a name just sounds so silly. Ebonheart and New Ebonheart would make more sense. Is there any real life examples of a similar case? "Old Ebonheart" sounds like a region within Ebonheart rather than a different city.

>>15345644

>endurance

Yeah, it'll definitely help. I like making heavy armor/spear wielding wizard classes so I can be a swole spellcaster.

>>15345467

Oh also for a quality of life suggestion, the strength and speed attributes both improve your running speed as well as the athletics skill. Acrobatics will also improve your travel speed as jumping further and faster is better than running.

Spending money in order to improve athletics and acrobatics is worth it. Acrobatics also improves upon taking falling damage and athletics improves faster while swimming.

>>15345644

Grinding isn't fun.

>>15345715

What head replacer are you using?

>>15345748

Mel's Face pack / "Morrowinds Epic Ladies"

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/41589

>>15345739

But it tickles my autsim just right. Also alchemy gives me free money so I might as well spend it on on spear and athleticism training.

>>15345467

Get these mods

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/23746/?tab=posts&BH=0

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42796

Unless you want to spend 30 minutes running very slowly to every dungeon and hours of grinding combat.

>>15346005

You have to realize not everybody is autistic like you.

>>15345467

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45238

Here's another great mod.

>>15345988

>>15346015

>>15346034

>Get 100 athletics and speed

>Can't even wear enchantments to increase said stats without going immersion breaking sanic

I realize you're just fucking aroundwhich is fine but it would be sad to see someone inexperienced taking your advice seriously.

>>15346060

Why would you wear enchantments you don't want? I'm just giving him good mods that make up for the shortcomings of Morrowind.

>>15346069

Those easily-managable mechanics are "shortcomings" only to those used to games that hold their hand. It's not hard to level up fighting skills if you're always fighting, and it isn't hard to use the different types of attack to beat any individual enemy's defense. It's not hard to level up Athletics if you're always running, and for those who just hate exploring the world for some inane reason, there are always Silt Striders and boats and the Propylon Index, so fuck babbycore fast travel mechanics.

>>15346116

Not wasting time isn't handholding. You gain nothing by spending all that time leveling skills. Standing with your clothes off and letting a bug hit you for a week isn't immersive or fun. That's time you could be doing actual quests.

>>15346069

Shortcomings? I've just recently started playing but I haven't found any of the things you mention as a real problem with the game. I do dislike the slow run speed but after a little bit of alchemy my argonian speargirl charges across mountains like a crack addict looking for his next fix thanks to all of those fortify speed potions I've created. Vanilla has been a pretty smooth experience minus all of the bones she's broken with the accidental long jumps during each potion binge.

>>15346160

>Do quests to earn gold

>Sell loot to earn gold

>Sell player created potions to earn gold

<Buy training with said gold

I dunno anon, sounds like you're playing the game wrong.

All the magic schools are easy as fuck to train by yourself but it's worth spending a bit of gold on the other stuff that interests you.

>>15346160

Go play shitrim if you want your dumbed down causal game then.

>>15346222

Why not just make speed potions

>>15346169

Here's a tip: If you permanently enchant an item with one point of slowfall it'll negate all falling damage. It's a pretty cheap enchantment and then you can hop around as recklessly as you like and never worry.

>>15345988

Ring of Divine Intervention.

Ring of Almsivi Intervention.

Ring of Recall.

Constant effect Levitation 1 point amulet.

Boots of blinding speed.

Congratulations, you can now go ANYWHERE in the game within 30 seconds, assuming you know the boat and strider routes by heart. No mods required, just a functioning brain.

>>15346695

>functioning brain

you're expecting a bit too much of skyrim kiddies, anon

>>15346034

>>15345988

You're a faggot and should be shamed. How pathetic do you have to be to be bad at Morrowind and need to mod it?

>>15345467

>>15345483

>>15345499

>>15345666

>>15345988

>>15346034

Thanks for the advice although I might not try the mods at first since I'm going for vanilla run.

>>15347167

(Weapon Skill + (Agility / 5) + (Luck / 10)) * (0.75 + 0.5 * Current Fatigue / Maximum Fatigue) + Fortify Attack Magnitude - Blind Magnitude

Redguard Spellsword

Long Blades 45

Agility 40

Luck 40

Fatigue 190

So, without using Adrenaline Rush, your starting chance to-hit fresh off the boat should be along the lines of (45+8+4)*1.25, or 71.25%. If you use Adrenaline Rush, the numbers get even better for the next sixty seconds. As your Fatigue goes down, that multiplier decreases and becomes a malus, encouraging you to either carry potions of Restore Fatigue or manage your environment in order to regenerate your Fatigue naturally.

There's the vanilla way to be gud at fightan if that's what you want to do, so don't start crying later that "I can't hit anything", deal?

>>15347167

Well if you actually want to experience vanilla you have to get the mods I listed. Or are you just playing the base game without the expansions installed? If you have the bloodmoon expansion installed one of the most important parts of NPCs dialogue will be fucked resulting in you missing out on several quests and important hints. Tribunal expansion will spawn a faggot trying to kill you who either obliterates your newbie ass or drops relatively overpowered loot. None of this shit was in the base game of course but at this point in time pretty much everyone just installs the entire game.

>>15347185

>if you make this autistic build i minmaxed to have optimal gameplay you will hit with 70% chance

epic

>>15346160

If you think the actual gameplay of the game is not worth your time, then why are you playing it? You don't have to play Morrowind.

Personally I think you've been ruined with the internet, play it no guides, just explore

>>15348894

>min-max'd

>40 points in stuff

Just read the descriptions as you're making a character you mong. Hell I played it like a moron and fucked my stats, but I had conjuration and just bound daggered my way to victory. Just play the fucking game, and you'll figure shit out. It's not hard you're just being a pussy.

>>15348962

I played the game and finished it. It's not worth playing ultimately. Once the muh mushroom fad wears off some 10 hours into the game you are left with woosh woosh flail, fetch quests and boring dialogue that doesn't lead anywhere 99.999999% of the time. You don't even see the consequences of your actions, the world is just stationary like WoW - except it's singleplayer.

>>15348993

post pics of ur mom my dood

>>15348986

Wow, maybe it is hard for some people.

Not like you aren't funposting, you'd have to be braindead to still be missing shit after 10 hours

>>15349064

nah eventually you grind it to an acceptable level after hours but it's not worth it at the end

>>15348894

Fresh off the boat. Pick Redguard, pick Spellsword, no minmaxing involved, shitter.

>>15349214

>an acceptable level

That level being "I can hit everything forever even though I'm a shitrat who is too stupid to manage Fatigue"?

>>15349278

>>15349276

>play a nigger or else you won't hit anything unltil you grind skills for 5 hours

top kek, GOTY 10/10

>>15348933

You are completely right. Guides & wiki's really screws with your experience and sucks the fun out of playing a game. Discovering things on your own is something I've really missed doing in vidya after being used to keeping a wiki open all the time

>>15346034

You need to lower the speed at which you level, not increase it.

>>15348098

Never had to grind in this game.

>>15349281

If you have that much of a problem playing Morrowind properly it would only be fitting. You're already a nigger in the real.

>>15342039

<no I AM COOLER I LIKE THE OLDER GAME THEREFORE I'M BETTER THAN YOU

>>15350067

I love Morrowind, but Daggerfall is the better game because it offers more challenge and, therefore, more reward.

>>15348986

>woosh woosh flail

Git gud faggot, and I'll post it every time you meme it up.

>>15342113

>>15344685

I recall the mod guide on the halfchan elder scrolls general's website being pretty good.

Also, I don't have a morrowind folder yet, anyone mind posting pictures?

>>15348890

I have the expansions installed but since those problems exist I'll install those mods now.

>>15350231

>Playing TES games for "challenge"

Made me reply.

>>15350339

well, it challenges your patience

>>15341464

Wait, is it canon that the Nerevarine killed Vivec, or did he just eventually die from not being a god anymore?