5b7cc0 No.15335820
It was confirmed to have it before launch, then a week before it did they seem to have quietly removed it
This is fucking huge since Sega has never removed Denuvo from any games that have had it, this would be their first which is historic for them. I don't know how much this has to do with their new COO Ian Curran, but this is a good sign.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/758330/Shenmue_I__II/
If you care, send Sega a message for doing this. They did a good thing and if we're lucky they might remove it from their other shit, or at least their upcoming shit too. Just thank them for doing this if you do bother to send anything, positive reinforcement goes a long way I think
help@sega.com
https://twitter.com/SEGA
>Feedback contact form
https://faq.sega.jp/helpdesk?category_id=622&site_domain=default
>PC/home console game contact inquiry form
https://faq.sega.jp/helpdesk?category_id=613&site_domain=default
Finally something that might be able to be called a victory this year
d1b56a No.15335829
>>15335820
>It was confirmed to have it before launch
5b7cc0 No.15335833
6f8d48 No.15335847
Their other games still have it. Its nice, but they are still fucking up.
877cb4 No.15335848
What's stopping them from patching it in later?
d1b56a No.15335849
>>15335833 (checked)
fug, i hope they remove denuvo from VC4
61cc91 No.15335865
Well hey,time to add it back to my wishlist
5f699f No.15335876
>>15335848
Please think about what you just posted.
d1b56a No.15335888
>>15335881
>2018
>using firefox
cd6ff0 No.15335901
>>15335820
I can think of several reasons they did this, from the negative reception of Denuvo to them not being sure it will even boost sales. It was probably a mixture of several factors that caused them to remove it.
>>15335848
Jesus Christ, anon.
5cddf4 No.15335902
>>15335881
>phone
Well whatever I'm happy Shenmue doesn't have Denuvo. For now.
33aaaa No.15335912
>>15335848
>What's stopping them from patching it in later?
>>15335902
> I'm happy Shenmue doesn't have Denuvo. For now.
Are you anons drinking mercury?
476bfa No.15335916
>>15335820
Do it for Yakuza and their future ports and maybe I'll give a shit.
It's an odd thing to see after they started tacking on Denuvo to their ports, but I'm not about to start jumping from one instance of it.
What's their next upcoming game besides Shenmue 1/2? If that also doesn't have Denuvo I'll start paying attention to Sega again.
That said shooting them an email or the like might do some good. You think they'd give a reason if you asked them why they didn't put Denuvo on it?
f78fdf No.15335919
I don't quite trust them yet.
and also I have no money
f1a2e9 No.15335920
>>15335848
You can't be this dumb.
5cddf4 No.15335928
>>15335912
If it doesn't have Denuvo now I can pirate it now. Instead of later, priorities Anon.
5b7cc0 No.15335938
>>15335916
I don't care too much about their reasoning for it, just as long as they realize that its a good idea to not put it in future releases of their games and products (and to eventually remove it from the ones they have) and that doing this would build goodwill with their customers
476bfa No.15335943
>>15335901
>from the negative reception of Denuvo to them not being sure it will even boost sales.
I'm skeptical about the first one. They'd be the first to admit to the bad reputation it has and putting action before their words by removing it before launch. That'd be quite something, but unlikely in my estimation.
The second is more likely. I guess it depends on their expected sales and the amount it costs to rape your game with denuvo.
I definitely would like to know their motivations for it.
cd6ff0 No.15335947
>>15335928
The port is already released. If they put Denuvo in now there will still be downloaded versions without the Denuvo, which defeats the entire purpose.
5cddf4 No.15335976
>>15335947
Yeah but adding Denuvo in later is basically back pedaling.
61cc91 No.15335985
It's amazing how on forums people are crying that the pirates won and will upload this
when in reality many people are saying thank you and buying the game.
cd6ff0 No.15335987
>>15335976
I don't think you understand that adding Denuvo after the game released is literally pointless, there are already torrents for the game.
5b7cc0 No.15335992
>>15335985
Is Kalkaiden or whatever his name is on suicide watch yet?
a08864 No.15335993
>>15335848
Shit dude, you only have like 1 INT.
1ad3e2 No.15335999
And on the flip side, rage at Bandai Namco for including it
support@bandainamcoent.com
2051 Mission College Blvd.
Santa Clara, CA 95054
(I've still got a postal tube left. I'm tempted to use it. Only reason I'm even questioning it is it requires going to the post office, which means I have to leave my gun at home or hike a block with my gun left in the car)
http://www.bandainamco-am.com/contact.php
You can also try contacting Valve and request they require DRM be revealed on the store page and prohibit hiding this information in the EULA. Forcing companies to admit they use DRM hurts them (they wouldn't hide it if they didn't). From Steam's prospective there's no good reason why they should have an option to disclose DRM but not require its use and it requires minimal resources for them to implement.
gaben@valvesoftware.com
Whatever Valve's fax number is
e7f48a No.15336003
>>15335992
I think he's going to die from trying to un-fuck the MonHun World PC port.
1ad3e2 No.15336012
>>15335928
You could literally pirate it for almost 17 years.
5cddf4 No.15336014
>>15336012
Yeah but I always felt the emulators I used were clunky.
9a04cf No.15336018
>>15335820
Of course this happens to a game I don't care care about.
7dcc2a No.15336019
>>15335912
well what do you think the Denucucks are chugging themselves?
5b7cc0 No.15336025
>>15336019
soylent mixed with nigger semen most likely
61cc91 No.15336030
>>15335992
I have no idea but hopefully he steps on a fucking STD infused bladed lego.
476bfa No.15336032
>>15335938
That's why you should care. If they just do it to save money then you'll see Denuvo on their next big title like nothing ever happened.
>>15335985
I legitimately cannot tell if those people are honest to god shills for Denuvo or if they're that mentally warped to complain about not having extra DRM tacked onto their games.
5cddf4 No.15336042
>>15336032
The only reason I wouldn't buy it is because I've sworn off steam.
7dcc2a No.15336046
>>15335985
corporate cuckoldry is a disease widespread amongst normalfags
I wish WW3/a new plague would happen to cull the fuckers
61cc91 No.15336059
>>15336046
No but it's like,imagine not having to go through an extra gate at your work to enter for security,even if it never bothered you,why would you dislike them getting rid of it?
Maybe that analogy is terrible,i dont know
5b7cc0 No.15336066
>>15336042
>The only reason I wouldn't buy it is because I've sworn off steam.
I have done the same, however if there is no other option and I want to support this behavior, I'll buy off Humble since almost none of the money from purchases there goes to (((Steam))) and more of it goes to the devs (I haven't had a reason to do this yet, though I will probably do it if VC4 comes out with no Denuvo)
I wish there were more viable platforms and storefronts
c6fc9f No.15336151
0b6d5e No.15336201
3323ff No.15336213
>>15336032
They've bought into the scare tactics. They think pirates will steal everything, and then we wont get more games.
8f4374 No.15336217
https://scenegames. goodolddownloads.com /game/shenmue-i-and-ii
ur whalecum
5cddf4 No.15336223
>>15336151
Well some people are having problems with Shenmue 1 and you need 30GB of space for this.
3323ff No.15336233
>>15336223
Hmm. How's Dreamcast emulation these days?
0b6d5e No.15336242
>>15336233
Stop being dumb.
3323ff No.15336249
>>15336242
Just saying. If a port can't compete with emulation, I'm emulating.
67eef7 No.15336272
>>15335820
perhaps they couldn't manage to get denuvo into the product AND also be in a playable before they were scheduled to release it
which would mean that they'd have denuvo later
67eef7 No.15336282
>>15336272
also, they perhaps are contractually obliged to have denuvo in the game, but are also contractually obliged to release the game by the deadline, which they perhaps could not do both of
19bb51 No.15336319
>>15335992
https://archive.fo/bLNyy
Here he is trying to shit up the forums. I think he's raging at the fact that they removed Denuvo. Pic is his Facebook profile.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, people
8cee9f No.15336322
>>15336272
>>15336282
Come on, they delayed the Sonic Mania port by two weeks to secretly shove in Denuvo, there's no way they'd release this without Denuvo if they actually gave a shit at this point. Also, there's no reason to add it back in later, it'd be fucking pointless.
a80302 No.15336343
>>15336272
>>15336282
Or maybe the "contractual obligations" is bullshit they use to make sliding denuvo into stuff easier with less pushback.
67eef7 No.15336358
>>15336322
perhaps that release date wasn't the hard deadline
c6fc9f No.15336366
>>15336201
Okay, how good is the emulation then? Don't get me wrong, I'll probably just keep playing it on my dreamcast.
b32fef No.15336402
But it's still on Steam so it has DRM?
7dcc2a No.15336452
>>15336319
What's the story about him sneaking cryptoshit in his garbage? Anyone got an infographic on the shill known as (((Kuckdaien)))?
54d19f No.15336465
>>15336223
>30GB of space
>For a couple of dreamcast games
How? I thought it was just a port, what the fuck is taking up all that room?
b03786 No.15336469
contacted sega to include denuvo, sending this thread and posts from other threads saying they'll pirate it.
459184 No.15336482
>I-I'm contacting Sega!
No (you)s for your sad bait from me, faggot.
c6fc9f No.15336484
>>15336465
Original games were pretty big (four discs each, though really 1 was 3 discs), but even still that's a bit large. Maybe fully uncompressed audio (which would probably make it sound weird and not like Shenmue)?
95885f No.15336502
>>15335820
>they actually removed denuvo
Did I fall into an alternate dimension? The fuck is going on? I'm afraid of this new world.
Seriously though, 2 games for $30 ain't bad. How is Shenmue as a series? I never played it.
37d03d No.15336534
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15336502
Shenmue as a series is phenomenal and is criminally underrated. The music is fantastic, the story is great, the characters are goofy but likable, and we have minigames and other cool side activities other than the main quest that you can goof off on.
The two main things which can turn some people off from Shenmue is the fact that it is somewhat a "real life" simulator (be prepared to wait a lot and have "boring" days) and that the combat is either okay or downright awful (since they used a Virtua Fighter engine during the time for the combat. A 2D fighter for a 3D game, I think you can see where the problem is). Either way, Shenmue is good, I like it, and you should try and play it.
c6fc9f No.15336545
>>15336534
>virtua fighter
>2d
What did he mean by this?
083604 No.15336556
>>15336502
Do you like games that actually have good gameplay? If so, Shenmue might not be the game for you.
b03786 No.15336559
>>15336534
It's basically Yu Suzuki trying to keep up with Yukio Futatsugi and Kenji Eno.
6fbb9c No.15336566
I honestly can't wait to have more forklift races.
95885f No.15336571
>>15336534
>>15336556
So a good game except for the whole gameplay part. Sounds a bit unfortunate, but I'll have to look up some gameplay and see myself. Even if it's not that good $30 isn't that bad for two decent games.
e15073 No.15336683
>>15336465
The original versions were single-language, I understand this one has both English and Japanese audio. Also, the torrent is a more reasonable 12 GB.
df693a No.15336712
>>15335928
And this is why companies use denuvo. Thanks for feeding the cancer, you dumb bitch.
5cddf4 No.15336794
>>15336712
You're assuming I'd buy it if it wasn't easy to pirate the same reasoning companies use, if it wasn't capable of being pirated and never leave the steam platform I'd bite the bullet and simply not pay for it at all and move on.
Dumbass.
1ad3e2 No.15336802
>>15336484
Dreamcast discs only hold 1 GB each, and a large portion of assets were duplicated between them. Where the fuck does the other 22 come from?
df693a No.15336805
>>15336794
So you're just a scumbag then?
5cddf4 No.15336827
>>15336805
There is nothing morally right or wrong with copying a digital medium vs paying for it; likewise there is nothing morally right or wrong with paying for it vs copying it. As far as I'm concerned it's on steam and that's a quality on my "never buy" list, and as as I can tell this is just a port so the original creators are not benefiting this as far as I can tell but I never followed it's development and could be wrong.
54d19f No.15336836
>>15336827
Stop responding to anti-piracy bait.
f661db No.15336842
>company removes Denuvo
you fuckers still bitch about the size of the game and other bull shit. You were never going to buy the game in the first place.
61cc91 No.15336848
>>15336833
You think it should be free?
2b290a No.15336850
>>15336842
Go choke on a dick and die, (((Kuckdaien))).
1eb8a4 No.15336866
>>15335848
people are replying to this guy as if thats not exactly what happened with conan exiles.
11e08b No.15336870
>>15336856
So you're a commie.
Got it.
get back to /leftypol/ you being here violates my NAP laws. I won't hesitate to rain down upon you a thousand nukes.
61cc91 No.15336871
>>15336856
Are you an actual communist?
0b6d5e No.15336872
>>15336848
>>15336833
>>15336870
You people need to leave this site.
54d19f No.15336873
>>15336842
I'm pleased they removed one layer of DRM, but there's still another. I would buy it if it was on a platform other than Steam.
30a8a4 No.15336874
Who the fuck cares about Shenmue in 2018?
Especially since there's already Yakuza.
0b6d5e No.15336879
>>15336874
I thought it was just Kickstarter drones.
26e666 No.15336886
>>15335847
Just like with their Sonic games… heh.
5f7582 No.15336889
>>15336866
And how did that turn out?
If you're seriously asking what's stopping them from doing it like that guy is, you need help. What's stopping them from doing it is they're not retarded.
>>15336874
If Yakuza ever comes out on PC, would it be possible someone could rip Virtua Fighter 5 out of it to play as a standalone PC port?
That's all I'm interested in.
543f9e No.15336894
>SAGA does something right
e15073 No.15336895
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I'm a poor macaco, but you rich-ass gringos have no excuse now. Shenmue is totally worth $30, and the port is very good as this video shows.
30a8a4 No.15336901
>>15336889
>If Yakuza ever comes out on PC
But it did…
5f7582 No.15336906
>>15336901
>Virtua Fighter 5
You're thinking of the wrong Yakuza.
5f7582 No.15336914
>>15336895
They may be richer than the average south american dirt eating negro, but most people here are students, unemployed or have shitty Mc jobs.
8f4374 No.15336921
anyone know if the torrent is a virus?
df693a No.15336925
>>15336827
You aren't copying it, though. You're downloading someone else's copy.
>>15336836
Stop being a fag
1eb8a4 No.15336939
>>15336889
conan got updates, the new versions that are actually decent never got cracked and denuvo wins?
I get that shenmue is a singleplayer non early access game (we will see about that though), it's a different situation, but it has happened before.
5f7582 No.15336962
>>15336939
> the new versions that are actually decent never got cracked
I did a quick Google search and found a cracked version from June.
d6ab83 No.15336963
That's pretty good, but I've already got Shenmue I & II for the Dreamcast and can emulate them on my PC and get the same level of "HD Remastered" experience that D3T is capable of shitting out.
Meanwhile, Yakuza Kiwami 2 launches in a week.
0b6d5e No.15336967
>>15336963
That's why I'm confused.
ae9c69 No.15336973
6a2f51 No.15336984
>>15335820
Doesn't make much sense actually. Denuvo seems to have the entire industry by the balls. Blackmail, leverage, contracts, cronyism? Something is getting their cracked DRM into everything.
I'd like to hope this is a sign that they are beginning to lose that grip.
351de2 No.15336988
That and the supposed fact that Codex has begun cracking Denuvo again is making me quite happy
8f4374 No.15337003
>>15336921
shenmue.exe is using a strange amount of cpu
5b7cc0 No.15337004
>>15336963
Email/contact them about it, this is a good time to strike. You can point to the Shenmue thing as an example to be praised and hope you, as an interested customer of the Yakuza series hope they make the same decision for its release, its not hard
083604 No.15337012
>>15336571
Games that don't have good gameplay are objectively not good games. Shenmue was just an early example of modern story games. Funny how the Japanese used to be worse with that, but they at least stayed at about the same level, while western devs decided to do away with gameplay so hard that it makes Japanese games look like the ones with gameplay.
e15073 No.15337060
>>15337012
A game can still be immensely enjoyable with imperfect mechanics. Shenmue offers a ton of exploration and interaction, good visuals, good music, interesting plot, and even a pretty decent fighting system, which is a step above the menu-driven battles of most RPGs.
351de2 No.15337062
>>15336988
>supposed fact that Codex has begun cracking Denuvo again is making me quite happy
Nevermind that, it's real.
cd6ff0 No.15337260
>>15336939
>conan got updates, the new versions that are actually decent never got cracked and denuvo wins?
This is a port of a game that came out 17 years ago
a5ab2f No.15337295
Steam play on Linux when?
000000 No.15337331
>>15335820
Yeah, but they still gave too much money to denuvo in the pasdt, and most of their games still have denuvo. Sega does not deserve any support nor any money.
It is the same old "we are friends now, right, fellow gamer?" marketing tactic to deceive people into wasting money on them. As soon as they are trusted again, they will use your money to pay for the next DRM.
If they want support, they must at the very least remove denuvo from every single of their games, along with an apology for having used it, as a start.
b03786 No.15337334
>>15337331
pirates are basically sjws who will always find an excuse to not pay for your game
316628 No.15337338
>t h i r t y
>f u c k i n g
>g b
5f7582 No.15337348
>>15337331
You're talking as if Sega fucked your wife and killed your dog, and as such was "unforgivable" now. Sega's not a person, it's a corporation (technically owned by another bigger corporation). They pump out products and services.
If you vote with your wallet by buying non Denuvo games, they'll keep making them. If you don't vote for the Denuvo games with your wallet, they won't make them. It's that simple.
5f7582 No.15337582
>>15337492
I don't care if you buy from Sega or not
bf156f No.15337615
>>15336223
Now I feel like downloading it just to see what kind of shit did they do to make it so bloated
bb39a0 No.15338141
>>15336319
>Nier fix
Didn't he include some kind of malware into that?
f77863 No.15338151
>>15335820
wow based
brb immediately giving my money to faga now that they maybe aren't ready to fuck my ass for a bit
351de2 No.15338187
>>15338141
If the game detected that either A you were using a pirated copy or B you were on the internal blacklist (steam UID based) of the program it would crash the game and maybe delete a few of the game files.
f39533 No.15338202
>>15335820
>30fps locked
aaaaand dropped
f72fb9 No.15338220
It's nice but they need to drop the Denuvo on their fucking new games (Yakuza, Total War, VC4).
c7b8e7 No.15338233
File: e2d9454e2010073⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 3.39 MB, 2397x3473, 2397:3473, 12dcf8a1086f88a0f49fcf5c77….jpg)
Not bad.
They get a cute girl for their efforts, and maybe my shekels if they drop it for VC4.
9c7fac No.15338240
>>15338187
Wew, what a shitshow. I think it's the same guy that shit on W7 and said W10 was a huge improvement and then made his Yakuza 0 mod not compatible with W7.
c7b8e7 No.15338256
>>15338141
>>15338187
>>15338240
>you will never be so butthurt about peoples' preferences that you purposefully sabotage your own work
Feels good.
e97491 No.15338271
>>15336452
>What's the story about him sneaking cryptoshit in his garbage
There's no story. It was a very weak jab at the fact that his fixes block people that disagree on him on the forums.
He should've said something like "make a fix that doesn't work on people who hurt your fee fees" instead. It was just a bad post.
7d3ea5 No.15338320
>>15336319
>It's a heeb
Who would have thought?
acc22a No.15338332
>>15338271
No? I think the story was that he made some patch for some game and included some malware that fucked your shit up if you were playing a pirated copy or something.
e97491 No.15338336
>>15338332
Like I said, it didn't fuck anything up. All it did was stop working if it detected you were running a pirated copy or you were one of the people on Steam that hurt his feelings. That's it. There was never any malware and his shit was open source.
When you're attacking someone, it's important to be accurate.
e7f48a No.15338348
>>15338187
>so butthurt about pirates he sabotages his own shit
>people create pirated versions of his mods that work better
6243eb No.15338360
>>15336866
The game you referenced was Multiplayer, again nigger think about what you said
fb0704 No.15338372
>>15337338
or free if you've a tenth of a brain
e7f48a No.15338384
>>15338360
Conan Exiles has a singleplayer mode though.
316628 No.15338386
>>15338372
I didn't know gigabytes were a currency.
5f12eb No.15338472
>>15336984
I'm surprised nobody has made any effort to unearth any foul play on denuvo's part. Even if corporate executives are too stupid to see why it's only a detriment to their products, there has to be something that's "convincing" so many companies to adopt it. And denuvo knows their product is bullshit. They are fully aware of the issues the software causes, and when you're deliberately selling a shitty product en masse, you're probably doing it in an unfair manner. Either blackmail, cronyism, or whatever other shady deals can occur between video game developers and denuvo. There has to be something.
f78fdf No.15338485
Someone's going in on the Suggestions/Tips discussion about denuvo
476bfa No.15338496
>>15338372
>when you try to act like a smartass but realize you only got a tenth of a brain
Nice going, dude.
4d0864 No.15338514
>>15338386
Don't give those shekelsnorting cunts any ideas.
fb0704 No.15338777
Sound is fucked is the Steam version.
fb0704 No.15338796
>>15336925
Downloading something is making a copy of it retard the original file doesn't jump from wherever they're hosting onto your machine.
fb0704 No.15338812
>>15338800
>using steam
The cracked Steam version by codex has no sound/an inability to detect sound devices.
114e63 No.15338854
How are the controls, can I play it mouse+kb?
742186 No.15338859
>>15336889
>What's stopping them from doing it is they're not retarded.
That's the most retarded shit I've read in a fucklong time.
Holy shit anon, how the fuck can you still be alive and not forget to breathe?
2f0ef5 No.15338875
>>15338796
But it's not a copy of your game that you paid for, it's a copy of someone else's game
fd74da No.15338891
>>15338875
And that someone else doesn't lose his copy. What is it with all the retards in the thread?
0e52de No.15338907
>>15335849
i hope so too, it looks great but i'm not going to willfully install malware for it.
i blame all you niggers for supporting denuvo though.
919f24 No.15338919
>>15336319
>>15338320
He's also a pedo and on The List, he was probably forced to strike a deal with them.
2e23cc No.15338939
>>15336233
There's been a new emulator in development that people are pretty enthousiastic about because it is really easy to use and doesn't require a bios.
It's also 5bux if you wanna play in 4k resolutions
351de2 No.15338946
>>15338939
Reicast OIT does the same shit except free
87399f No.15338948
>>15336484
original games were on 1GB GD-ROMS. 4 discs * 2 games * 1GB per disc is still just 8GB
Did Shenmue 2 on Xbox have four filled DVDs?
b03786 No.15338980
>>15338948
also includes both language options. 30gb is nothing you whiny faggot upgrade from a single 250gb hard drive, 2007 was 11 years ago.
2f0ef5 No.15338994
>>15338891
It's not about losing copies, you dipshit, it's about making everybody else suffer by making these companies think the only way to stop pirates is to lock games onto DRM systems like Denuvo, Steam, or consoles. Pirates are detrimental to everybody else.
351de2 No.15338995
>>15338948
>Did Shenmue 2 on Xbox have four filled DVDs?
Nope, probably didn't even fill over half a DVD9
7de20c No.15339027
>>15338187
That's actually pretty funny. It's like when devs add messages or unbeatable bosses like that scorpion in Serious Sam 3. Not to mention that it's better than Denuvo. Denuvo actually punishes people who bought the games.
c6fc9f No.15339089
>>15336895
So it's cool that it runs well and all, but why the fuck are the colors all fucked up? It looks like someone added an extra layer of some form of bloom. Fucking disgusting.
c6fc9f No.15339095
>>15339089
nevermind, just got to the part where they mentioned the bloom and how it's optional. Why you'd add bullshit like that I don't honestly know but at least it can be turned off.
22c40d No.15339099
DENUVO IS GOING TO BE PATCHED IN LATER
ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY
MOST GAMERS DONT LOOK AT UPDATES AND PATCHED NOTES
ALL PRE ORDER GAMERS WILL DOWNLOAD IT DENUVO FREE
THEY WILL GET AUTOMATICLY DENUVO NEXT WEEK WITH A PATCH
7f5838 No.15339103
>>15339099
Doesn't that mean that the initial release will be already available for free?
22c40d No.15339107
>>15339103
PIRACY IS JUST THE FRONT STORY
THIS IS NOT ABOUT ACTUALLY PIRACY
PUBLISHER WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE USERS
72850a No.15339116
>>15336534
>>15336571
>>15337012
>>15337060
The game's a prototype Yakuza game, but where Yakuza lets you go around and do whatever you want, Shenmue is a little more restrictive and fluid in that you're not told where to go and you have to actually learn the game's areas yourself and ask around, which slows the pace down to something more relaxed.
5cddf4 No.15339120
>>15339095
Part of the promise for this port was trying to polish the graphics a bit for the port so stuff like bloom would be expected, cause devs love bloom.
>>15339103
There are people who don't pirate things all the time, they're the ones who are going to get screwed. Which will then teach steam buyers to wait a week or crack the steam game and keep it in a separate folder.
>>15339107
Steam already does that, it's half the reason I sworn off it.
c6fc9f No.15339130
>>15339120
It's a shame even without the bloom the colors are fucked up and too bright. Honestly this port looks like trash to me. I can appreciate all they did to make the image look better but when they fundamentally change things like color warmth they're officially fucking with the style of flavor of the game. Shenmue was meant to emulate real life, not be bloomed out shit with overly bright colors.
72850a No.15339148
>>15339099
>>15339107
So they're patching the game by breaking it? DO they study their customer's reaction when their game suddenly can't play on their PC because of the bloat? It's like they WANT people to not buy their future games. If this were a supermarket industry people would be selling games tagged "Now without Denuvo!" because when something bad happens in the food industry, like the sudden info bomb that was Trans Fat, businesses start dropping that shit like it's hot and instantly put up tags informing people that they no longer carry items with the stuff in it.
Stores that don't do that lose entire isles of produce because the drop in customers is real. Supermarkets are a tightly run industry because the money is buy low sell lowish so the actual profit margins are mid-tier as far as profit gains go, but I guaruntee that about a year or two down the line we're going to see a fucking DROP happen with Denuvo after the normalfags catch on.
If you're smart you won't fall for the pirating propaganda bullshit and just sell your game. People crack protection all the time, if it's made it's gone. But what's really important for a product is exposure. Putting Denuvo on a game limits the game's attention in other countries, because outside of America pirating is the standard for low income areas, and low income areas fucking talk.
You don't have to worry about those guys, because they'll pirate everything, and the middle income areas and high income areas are more likely to buy then low income, but low speaks to middle speaks to high thanks to the internet.
If you put Denuvo on the game you're lowering the attention it gets from an entire financial class, one of the most common, one that talks and creates connections out of necessity to survive. And while it does get cracked, if it's not day one available people WILL pass your game over and it'll get less attention because the hype train on shit like this gets the most attention day one.
And putting Denuvo on these games makes the lower income areas TALK about how shit your game is because of Denuvo and how it doesn't work well because of it. This isn't a case of bad publicity being good, this is a case of bad publicity causing the worst thing that can happen to your game, DISINTEREST.
The killing words in the marketing sphere are "I no longer give a shit about this". And that's what Denuvo does that fucks you over subtly. It's not just invasive, it's bloat, and that's enough for most people to not get it.
f78fdf No.15339160
>>15339099
>ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY
Post proof or vacate life
61cc91 No.15339167
>>15337338
Shit dude you've got zero int
677f97 No.15339168
nice, time to pirate that shit.
61cc91 No.15339172
>>15339027
I'd say the best version i've seen of it has been in alan wake,you just get a little pirate eyepatch,it's neat
c6fc9f No.15339184
>>15339181
Sega isn't making Shenmue 3
61cc91 No.15339186
>>15339181
You do realize a large amount of people who ignored the game/would have pirated it because of denuvo are now buying it right?
a80302 No.15339199
>>15339192
The people who would have pirated the game would never have bought it in the first place, with or without Denuvo. Denuvo doesn't stop piracy.
61cc91 No.15339201
>>15339192
That's not something you know for true though
fb0704 No.15339253
>>15338875
Which they chose to share freely, if you're looking to demonise someone why not go for the supplier? Mass Effect 3 taught me to never pay for games again.
>>15338994
Everything they try fails though, you'd think they'd clue in also it's not my fault they're wasting their time to (((maximise profits))).
459184 No.15339269
>>15339257
I'm already in a developer's shoes and you're full of shit. Fuck off.
61cc91 No.15339273
>>15339257
I'm defending the dev here you fucking mongrel
4d4b5b No.15339281
>>15339027
>>15339027
>Batman: Arkham Asylum had a simple anti-piracy measure tied to the gliding ability
>In early pirate versions, instead of being able to glide over long distances, Batman would repeatedly open and close his cape, flapping his arms like a retard
>This would cause players to get stuck in an early area of the game, call the publisher's tech support line to describe the problem, and immediately be exposed as pirates
b71f68 No.15339285
>>15339257
>Piratecucks
Back to halfchan
2c0ee7 No.15339302
>>15339257
>Piratecucks
How does that work?
2cefe2 No.15339390
>>15335849
This is all I want, please. VC4 is about the only game I've been interested in for a while, denuvo killed that.
79911f No.15339392
>>15339099
>They're going to patch in a DRM that exists for the sole purpose of not having the game cracked on day 1 when the game is already cracked
You're fucking retarded.
a80302 No.15339411
>>15339257
No, I'm a customer and I have standards. This whole paradigm of laying down to bow before the developers and lick their boots for the mere privileged of paying to play their latest piece-of-shit product where most of the budget went into advertising and astroturfing, whose every aspect needs to be pre-approved by some hook-nosed kike on an advisory board and targeted at the largest possible audience market research suggests exists. Don't ask me to take a Dev's viewpoint into consideration when they've never considered mine beyond the dimes they think they can squeeze out of me.
I've got no problem paying for something that meets my reasonable standards. Denuvo sits way below that.
0d431e No.15339482
>>15335820
A typical symptom of stockholm syndrome is the victim mistaking a temporary lack of abuse from their captors for a gesture of love.
2a3428 No.15339499
>>15337334
And there is nothing that you can do about it, impotent corporate shill.
There is nothing wrong in stealing from corporations and jews.
>>15337348
If they release anything with denuvo, i will wait for it to be cracked and pirate it.
If they release anything without denuvo, i will pirate because they dared to put denuvo on their products at some point.
It is that simple.
>>15339257
Corporations are our slaves. You should be grateful for the mere privilege of working for free to create amusement for us.
7c59e7 No.15339502
>>15339257
Devs != Publishers you retard
6765d2 No.15339506
>>15339257
>oy vey think about the poor game dev earning $70k a year in a nice city
>the horror!
fb0704 No.15339518
>>15339257
>dev's shoes
Pink high heels with 'I'm With Her' written up the side.
fb0704 No.15339556
>>15337334
>trying this hard to make no sense
fb0704 No.15339573
>>15338496
I hope your parents put a sign around your neck to warn others.
f1571a No.15339960
Has anyone got a clear and concise document or even image that clearly outlines and explains all the issues with Denuvo and why exactly it is so bad?
Trying to explain why its cancer to my friends and family working only off of memory and the few articles I've read is getting tiring especially with all the possible developments over the years and I'm just wondering if there is something I can easily link to them and explain as questions arise instead of having to give an almost autistic ad-libbed lecture.
a80302 No.15339978
4f1bb6 No.15342836
>>15339392
fitgirl has already got his repack out now, even includes options for original jap voices but holy shit that another 700MB.
306d59 No.15342858
>>15339499
Brazilians should at least be slaves too, although the complete cleansing of retarded BRmonkeys would be the best possible scenario.
9c7fac No.15344289
Denuvo is now expanding into anti-cheat solutions for multiplayer games (there's a few news articles if you google it). I assume we're going to see even more Denuvo, even for multiplayer-only games which didn't require any sort of pirate protection because of their nature.
ee6014 No.15344293
>>15335820
>send Sega a message for doing this
"Oh, shit. We forgot to enable Denuvo. Thanks for reminding us."
ee6014 No.15344296
>>15339392
You get a refund for Denuvo if the game gets cracked in less than a year and you remove Denuvo from your game. Despite many Sega games being cracked in days or less, making Denuvo pointless, they still haven't removed Denuvo from their games.
215185 No.15344387
Looks like I have to keep my promise of buying it if it doens't have denuvo. WILL BUY IT even if I won't play it because I actually own Xbox Shenmue 2 and was in my backlog for 6 years…
2a3428 No.15344391
>>15342858
There is nothing that you can do about me being here, impotent soyboy.
>>15344289
Not if more people stop buying anything with denuvo.
215185 No.15344529
>>15342858
>Has to fake superiority based not on race, nor gender, nor IQ even less physical traits… just a ==location==
Impressed with the level of loserness, are you a autistic, soyboy, niger/white niger, poor, gay, neet person?
9c0fa5 No.15344541
>>15335849
It's hard to get excited. First game was fun then it was an okay mis-step and then an absolutely terrible 4th game. I don't have any confidence in them.
9c0fa5 No.15344542
c7b8e7 No.15344544
>>15344541
>>15344542
VC3 is pretty good though.
3b1a26 No.15344550
Probobly because of the new version of Denuvo requiring CPU's sop much higher then the specs, why lessen the actual market buying the game behind a spec wall when they probably know denuvo is a plaster for piracy at best.
Any piracy "saved" wouldn't be worth the mass spec wall shutting off customers.
>MFW if sonic mania was made today you'd need a 2014 CPU to run a game made to look like a saturn game
03e439 No.15344846
>>15336895
>rich gringos
Listen Juan, you realize where you are right? This isn't reddit or 4chan. Most people here are neets, or like the other guy said, have shit jobs and live in a broken system. All the people with money probably don't play video games and just act like they do.
6e8046 No.15344855
2a3428 No.15344878
>>15344529
Just a nobody impotently raging when he is confronted.
>>15336895
No game is worth buying. Ever. Pirate everything.
919f24 No.15344905
>>15344855
Talmudism in digital form.
d7e78c No.15344917
022df5 No.15348530
>>15336873
It's on Dreamcast
d7e78c No.15348682
>>15348530
What were those Chinese discs called that were better for Dreamcast piracy than regular CDs again? It was Golden something, I think.
2a3428 No.15348768
>>15336873
What is the point of having fun if you have to pay for it? Get it for free.
90effd No.15349322
>35$
>For a port of a 18 year old game
>Not even trying to emulate it
f78fdf No.15349325
>>15344846
>All the people with money probably don't play video games and just act like they do.
I bet you wish that were the case, faggot.
73cc28 No.15349433
They finally released a game without denuvo and you faggots will find any excuse to not buy a game and pirate it. I don't care either way and am not a drm cuck, it's just funny to see.
2a3428 No.15349712
>>15349433
Any entertainment that you have to pay for is a scam.
215185 No.15349875
Is the port broken like some people are complaining or they are just trying to run on toasters?
>>15349712
So ==IF== you have money, what you do with it if there is no entertainment worth of paying? Do you only pay for water, eletricity, rent and bread to keep you alive?
-When you go out, you don't pay for anything? Not even for a soda to hang out?
-How do you go to the movies without paying?
-How do you dress to go out? Or do you only wear floorbag clothes that you sew yourself?
-Do you pay for internet or you steal the neighbor wifi?
or
Mommy pays and that's why you think that people ==endure== work to not spend the fucking money with whatever the fuck they want because they fucking worked for it?
59d5bf No.15350396
>>15337331
>Sega does not deserve any support nor any money
Companies should be rewarded when they act in good faith. Pan o palo, m8.
a42605 No.15351025
>>15344391
I dont have to do anything, you will eventually starve to death like the worthless BR nigger you are.
>>15344529
>cant even redtext right
>possibly samefagging
>niger
How are BR niggers even able to live if they are THIS retarded?
42e6eb No.15352929
now if they could do that to Valkyria Chronicles 4 and Yakuza 0, that would be great.
42e6eb No.15352937
>>15350396
The exception to this is if they are completely irredeemable. Example being EA, Ubisoft, and NISA to name a few. sage for double post.
ee6014 No.15353073
>>15350396
After all the games they put Denuvo on I've lost faith in SEGA and I'm going to be cautious for a while. I was ready to buy Sonic Mania until Denuvo.
>>15352937
People are too quick to forgive EA despite all the terrible shit they've done.
e77f65 No.15353170
well, if you're steamtard buy this, that's the best way to send a message
2a3428 No.15353804
>>15349875
Yes. Pay only for essentials (and even then, only those that you can't game the system to get for free), while keeping all the remaining disposable income for the sake of having plenty in the case of any emergency.
-I don't drink soda. Ever.
-I only watch pirated movies.
-I buy clothes from smugglers (yes, they exist, and yes it is cheaper and high quality stolen clothes)
-I steal whatever i can. Game the system whenever i can. Pay only for essential when i have no other means to get them for free.
As for work, if you got a job that you hate, only to endure it to have money to spend on entertainment, that is your problem with your shit life.
Working only on what one like, and having plenty of income (but always avoiding paying for the work of others) is what a good life is, and what one must always aim for. And that is what i managed to achieve for me.
And: all fun must be free. There is no point in having fun if you had to pay for it.
>>15350396
No, they should not. Companies are slaves. When you support then, they will use your own money against you sooner or later.
>>15351025
No. I will starve others to death, while living a pretty decent life and getting what i can without compensating companies whenever i can. Stay mad, impotent soyboy.
b98ac5 No.15353897
>>15353804
that all sounds good to me.
a42605 No.15354024
>>15353804
Nice try, but it's a well known fact that Brazilians like you are subhuman, therefore unable to be superior to anyone else, since after all, when has a nigger been superior to anyone?