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>>15330502

>stats imply wanderer start

>24 strength

>31 dex

>total of 21 levels between them

>total of 4 levels put into vit to raise HP

>complaining about getting killed quickly

>leveled resistance

>>15330502

I'd put more points into resistance.

Git gud, faggot.

It wasn't until this boss that I really felt I needed it, even thought I might've skipped a boss.

Big mobs could kill me in 4 hits if I got cornered. Dex gave me resistance as well and I put

into End for blocking and getting some heavier armor. I'm gonna give the wolf boss in the

forest a couple more tries first. I got him down halfway 3 times now.

>>15330672

What weapons/gear are you using? Have you upgraded anything?

>>15330643

You need to play Dark Souls 2 and 3 in order to appreciate and articulate just how good Dark Souls and Demons Souls are.

>>15330672

Winged spear is on +7 and I got +3 on the armor

>>15330711

Sounds like you're well armed.

If you want to kill Silf (the wolf), go ahead, but you'll need to get past Sen's to advance the game. You got a bow? If so, get some poison arrows. They're helpful for many situations.

>>15330751

Yeah I had to get one for the butterfly but I haven't really used it since it's the melee I like the most. I just got the wolf. What does the covenant ring I got from him do?

>>15330780

Wasn't completely sure about going for Dex or Str.

I got Dark Souls 2 a while back. It's going to be my first Dark Souls game. How fucked am I?

>>15331391

Why didn't you get any other DS game?

Still, you should give it a shot. It's inferior to the other games in the series but it's an above average game on it's own.

This reminds me I still havent beaten darksould 3 and have no desire too. How is Nioh?

>>15331500

It's good. Combat is miles better than any miyazaki shit, but lategame can get pretty autistic.

>>15331391

I hope you're ready to change your name to Wimp Lo.

>>15330643

Why would you skip the best game in the series, though?

>>15330502

>all those points in resistance wasted

you're a retard OP

Stamina and HP are the most gamebreaking or rather points which give most value out of all the stats. you want to reach 40 on both and level strength or dex depending on which weapon you wish to wield.

>>15330417

>play dark souls remastered for first time

You just got scammed with one of the worst possible Remasters ever, but hey, you'll have fun with niggers invading you.

>>15330502

>These fucking numbers

>These fucking stat build

Understand that this game is also a spreadsheet simulator, you just made sure you're eternally anally rectum'd by demons.

>>15330417

only put enough points into dex and str that is necessary for the equipment you want to use.

Pick up a bknight halberd or grab a Lance and upgrade it to +15, use dragon crest or crest shield for either elemental or magic block, find a set that you can fastroll in that also gives you a bit of poise and you can be super cancer and cheese both pvp and pve

>>15330577

>>15330780

>Resistance has resistance to status effect and damage resistance? Wow, this seems more valuable than just plain health

I've never understood why people don't just view the stat changes and see that a level in resistance is usually not even an extra 1% increase on a resistance that's threshold related and not proc related. Especially when they can look at alternative armor choices and see that there's single pieces that give out effective 20%+ increases to poison res just be equipping them. Same goes for just about every stat. You see pretty siginificant boosts to hp for every level invested until at least 20, returns diminish after that but are usually still the better investment over like an extra point or two of weapon damage when weapon upgrades give dozens, or even hundreds if adding element/magic, of extra damage points. It's not exactly as if you need to be a dork souls expert to see this, and there are a lot of builds that do require better understanding of how stats work to make, but this is simply a case of choosing the option that provides the best returns. Unless of course you're roleplaying a trash chracter or something?

>>15330502

Ignore the faggots, resistance is objectively terrible to put points into but it's not the end of the world, especially for a first run.

Just dump all your points into vitality from here on out - those other stats will do you fine. Just be sure to find a decent dex scaling weapon (at least C or above).

>>15331832

This guy made a movie comparing the visual differences, just skip around.

Remaster is an absolute downgrade. I feel bad that's the version OP is experiencing first.

>>15332055

The game's lighting and performance is pretty damn inconsistent, some areas it looks good, others have lighting-shit covered candles, performance is wonky and then there's the music ques that stop or play. Still not patched out unless you get that unofficial patch.

The Black knight sword is op as fuck. Now I'm killing the lizards in two hits. I just bait their attack out

and then combo them. Made it all the way up to the top and killed everything on top except the boss

and got back with 3 flasks to spare. I'm a bit annoyed that the giant loading the balls into the traps

respawn though.

>>15333166

Yea if you're lucky enough to get a black knight weapon and upgrade it it pretty much trivializes the entire rest of the game. Especially the axe.

>>15332055

I think they broke the regular lighting filter in an attempt to add the nice real time reflection effect. It looks way shittier in most spots but a little better in others. It probably would have been not cost effective for them to overhaul the engine and textures. Remasters are always half assed cash grabs.

>>15330502

No wonder you're dying, you need to hit the resistance softcap of 50, I'd prioritize that in leveling if not just restart with a fresh character

>>15333195

Even if you dont get one, you can always cut the dragons tail near solitaire for an OP weapon

>>15333231

That is only OP early game though honestly. I mean you can easily run through the game with it if you know what you're doing but it's not as good as other things later on.

>>15333311

I suppose I should say I bought the first PC port on steam but never got around to finish it because

I lost the save. I pirated the remaster because I'm not paying 20€ for that.

>>15332055

Still makes me sad they halfassed it that much. I had been hoping for a slight facelift for Dark Souls for years. It would be nice if they added back in the cut content, animations, and fixed the online, but if they would have just done a proper face lift I would have bought it again. How did they fuck up that badly.

>>15330417

man imagine being such a cuck you let a bitch handle your problems for you even while you play videogames

>>15330417

There's a hidden wall in the room beneath the bell switch btw

>>15332055

From what I've watched in this video the only things that are better are the particle effects (fire, spells etc.). Everything else looks far worse and it's entirely the fault of the lighting being fucked in the remaster.

Forgot polite sage for blogpost.

>>15333629

>saging after bumping

>polite sage

>blog post

You need to leave or stop posting for a year and lurk.

>>15333632

Don't be a cunt.

>>15330502

I assume this is your first dark souls right?

>>15331486

>I thought quality builds were rather weak until DS2.

Quality builds have always been weak but versatile.

>>15330643

Unless you like the magic and want more of that.

>>15330417

>>15333388 (heiled)

Does the pirated remaster work online?

>>15334113

Did you find the bonfire in Sen's?

What armor are you looking to use?

>>15334666

satan is being misleading again

quality builds were literally the meta for a long ass time, not overpoweringly so but still

>>15333395

They got a company that wasn't Fromsoft to do it.

>>15334870

>tfw keep getting satan trips in different threads

>quality builds were literally the meta for a long ass time

For DS2 & 3 the best builds are Rapier and Estoc respectively.

Quality is only barely viable at SL120, at any lower SL it's a joke. It's forced meta tryhard bullshit.

>>15335094

I mean specifically in one, quality+buff was meta

>>15335192

Again, only viable at SL120. At any lower SL having an even distribution between Str and Dex is awful.

>>15335192

I think you're misremembering things anon. With 27/40 quality you only get enough leftover points at SL 100-120 to invest in VIT and END to bring them up to acceptable levels, you don't get enough to invest in INT/FTH to have a decent buff. I remember DEX/INT builds being very common in pretty much all DS games given how the buff is a flat value and dexfaggotry moves at the speed of sound.

>>15334852

It took a good while. First three times against the iron golem I came from Undead Parish. Don't know what

armors there are. I got the elite knight armor now and it works with a decent protection to weight ratio. Guess I'll exchange it if I find any better.

>>15334629

Yeah, haven't looked at the wiki except for tutorials for equip. load etc. That's where I found you could sprint.

>>15334880

It just took me a while to figure out where I was supposed to go. Was all over the map exploring. Passed through the Drake valley and got the sword and shield but got killed by the dragon so I never went back.

Explored the heart of the forest and had fun fighting the humans and they netted me a lot of souls. Was

around 30 when I fought the capybara demon 35-40ish after the boss in the depths and 40 in blighttown.

>>15335302

>capybara demon

Canon name from now on

>>15335302

That's ok then, on my first play through I had my brother walk me through pretty much everything. After a while you get the feel for the game and stop doing retarded shit like deciding to switch class half way through the game. I didn't know you could jump until I was quite far in

>>15335312

my god, this is the fucking capybara king

>>15330502

I don't know if they changed item locations and spawns, but there are a lot of really good weapons, gear, and rings you can find with just ~20 minutes of walking from firelink shrine.

>>15331642

stat scaling on gear is also important, you want to hit the softcaps on your offensive stat, followed up with 40 endurance for the stamina cap, and then the rest in vitality.

New DSR memory fix: https://www.sendspace.com/file/bm8rs6

Is this shit still not released for Switch yet lol

>>15341552

>isn't that indicative of terrible game design?

Yes.

>>15330518

Sens fun house was unironically one of the easiest areas of the game I never understood this.

>>15342243

It's also one of the funnest areas to invade.

>>15342534

That is indeed a point against the game.

>>15341552

Reminder they made resistance useful in DS2 with ADP and people shit on it cause muh iframes

>>15341552

> isn't that indicative of terrible game design?

Yes, darksouls is actually fucking shit.

>>15341552

>If certain stats are entirely or effectively pointless to the degree that they destroy your build, rather than allowing for a viable alternate build, then isn't that indicative of terrible game design?

Not really. It's wasted potential, but doesn't really ruin anything. You can make dumb build decisions in any RPG. Otherwise every class-based RPG system would be "terrible game design" if they allowed you to make a wizard with no intelligence and maxed strength.

>Further, certain stats have soft-caps which make leveling them fruitless wastes of souls - but no significant in-game indicator letting the player know that investing in that stat beyond a certain point is an exercise in diminishing returns.

You can watch what happens to your stats as you level them.

>>15342734

ADP is shit because iframes need to be timed precisely and the worst thing to do with anything reaction-based is to vary the window of valid input. It would be like playing Guitar Hero with a random input window.

Resistance, if it worked properly, would be a fine stat. The reason it doesn't work well in DS1 is primarily because both level and humanity also count towards defense and they add together to hit the soft cap.

>>15341552

Actually it's smart game design. By making you start over if you fuck up, it incentivizes alternative builds and strategies. Additionally,it fosters discussion such as this. Path of Exile also worked this way.

Diminishing returns are a necessary evil to stop minmaxing

I don't know if it's smart game design so much, people just want it to be some tight PVP Character Action Game when it's not. Hell, the stat shit basically makes it closer to a CRPG.

>>15338494

Oddly, it worked on my shittop. Who the hell has that little RAM though lol.

>>15349309

Contrarians, anon. You will never please them.

>>15341552

This anon basically explains why you're retarded you're likely just baiting anyway

>>15342797

But allow me to elaborate further because I'm bored for anyone who actually gives a shit.

>If certain stats are entirely or effectively pointless to the degree that they destroy your build, rather than allowing for a viable alternate build, then isn't that indicative of terrible game design?

The only way you are ever "punished" in dark souls for being higher level is A) higher level up cost next time and B) the invasion level calculation. Assuming you're talking about being invaded, you're far more likely to be invaded by a lower level player anyway because of how the calculation works in both the original (no upper level cap, a level 1 player can invade a level 713 player) and in the remaster (can still normally invade higher level players than you can co-op with).

If you play offline, the only punishment you get for being a retard is wasting your own time getting more souls to make up for it, and even then, you can still proceed with the same stats as before and progress without too much issue most of the time.

>Further, certain stats have soft-caps which make leveling them fruitless wastes of souls - but no significant in-game indicator letting the player know that investing in that stat beyond a certain point is an exercise in diminishing returns.

Stats suffer from diminishing returns as you increase them, displaying the exact effect each time you level it to teach the player about this mechanic, and every single one will "soft cap" eventually. At that point, only slight advantages come from each increase, some give you nothing but an increase in your soul level (attunement after 50 for example), but even that still has some effect, since your soul level is used to calculate your base defense. this is why all your defenses go up when you start leveling. This also soft caps to an extent, which is why at SL 8 every defense will increase when you level, but at SL 100 it's likely only one will

All of these effects though are clearly visible when you level up, even going to far as to tell you before you commit to increasing that stat the exact effects each one will have, allowing you to experiment until you find what seems best. At the same time, any starting class with their base stats can still finish the game without impossible levels of difficulty as long as you upgrade your weapons , it'll just be harder, with each "smarter" level making a huge impact on reducing that difficulty. If you're just allocating points at random, chances are you'll still do fine, even if it is a bit tougher. While leveling up effectively does make the game easier, no matter how retarded you are with leveling or how many points you "waste" in soft capped skills, your build is never "destroyed" and the game gives you plenty of indication as you increase your stats that each level allocated to a stat has a smaller effect than the last.

Feel free to bully me for my autism; sage for not really adding much since >>15342797 explained this in general terms and the guy I'm replying to was just being a faggot anyway.

>>15349447

Here's a list of what each soft cap does for those who are wondering:

Vitality: less health per level, the gain is actually quite erratic at first, but beyond 50 it goes down quite harshly to less than 10 per level from the typical 20-30 per level.

Attunement: A slot is given at 10, then one more every 2 levels up to 4 slots, then it takes more each time. Once you hit 50 you get capped at 10 slots and after that attunement just gives you SL increase.

Endurance: Stamina generally goes up by 2 per level until 40 where it caps at 160. The Ring of Favor and Protection still increases it to 192 Equip load is 40 + Stamina which remains constant from 1-99

Strength: Increases strength stat scaling damage, soft caps at 20 then again at 40, diminishing returns pretty much the entire time.

Dexterity: Increases dexterity stat scaling damage, soft caps at 20 then again at 40, diminishing returns pretty much the entire time. Also speeds up spell casting, this caps at 45.

Resistance: Actually gives pretty good increases to poison resist up to 15, then some slight ones until 30, after that the increase is quite small. People call it worthless because poison resistance barely matters, and armor can be used when it does.

Intelligence: Increases int scaling on weapons and catalysts, gives heavy diminishing returns between 45-50 with the effect after that being very small.

Faith: Increases faith scaling on weapons and talismans, gives heavy diminishing returns between 45-50 with the effect after that being very small.

Humanity: Increases item droprates and the scaling damage on certain weapons, these effects cap at 10. Also added to your SL when calculating base defense, this continues to 99.

Soul Level: Increases base defense, diminishing returns as it does. The increase becomes very small after 100 or so since you generally just get one point in one defense per level around that time.

As a general rule, focusing on one stat will suffer from diminishing returns, and increases after 40-50 are very small. Resistance caps off a bit quicker but it's not really very useful anyway since armor generally can be used to give you poison resistance when you need it. I tried to account for the remaster wherever relevant, but I don't know all the changes since I really don't give a fuck about it

my autism was so big it had to be broken into two posts