04ab36 No.15304917
The time has come
server soon
d1d640 No.15305036
c34dc3 No.15305039
d1d640 No.15305049
d2ae47 No.15305171
>grinding simulator
Wurm has been succeeded, just wait for more Eco updates.
0650dc No.15305291
>>15304917
We just had a serb that died in less than 2 weeks.
Fuck off.
Unless we join some normalfag pvp server and fuck with normalfags, I'm not interested.
5e3741 No.15306981
It's too soon OP we just had a mostly abortive summer serb, wait till the cold rolls in at least.
79967a No.15307091
04ab36 No.15307279
on sale right now for $12 on steam for those of you that like to purchase extended game rentals with botnet.
a6de33 No.15307381
>>15304917
Next server better have modded surface mining, I gave up on the last server when I realized I was going to have to solo surface mine 200+ tiles.
8f608b No.15308127
Wurm veteran here with some protips. Since we once played a 2k map that was 75% water, anything less than 8k is too shitty. Make sure the rates are 2x-3x since school is starting for lots of us and we need to make the gap between macro users and normal players even wider. Also keep the server as secret as possible and only on /v/ so that cuckchanners won't balloon our population to an unsustainable 20 people. Make sure to only communicate through Discord and don't let new people into your clans so that everything dies to lack of population and communication.
3f2e5f No.15308175
>>15308127
>anything less than 8k is too shitty
>Make sure the rates are 2x-3x
>keep the server as secret as possible
These are the only sensible things you said.
8f608b No.15308183
If you do make a server, don't listen to anybody. To this day we got fags that try to gaslight the admin into fucking the server up like >>15308175
032fe4 No.15308277
4k
3/4 of map pvp
1/4 pve
skill curve to 40 with rapid drop off after
custom dungeons/events
b6eb46 No.15308291
>>15308127
Don't forget to make sure you announce the serb out of fucking nowhere, especially if someone else already had a serb planned and was being crafted and prepared with mods, so you get the whole threads attention. Make sure to have 1 or 2 of your co-workers at the gay brothel come in a shit up the thread and tell everyone how they are wrong for not immediately wanting to flock to this serb, have them do this for two or three threads, just to be safe.
d2ae47 No.15308293
>>15308229
you're doing a good job, hopefully your suggestions turn everyone away from the game for good :^)
04ab36 No.15308405
>>15308175
>8k map
>2x-3x
this is what is happening
>keep the server as secret as possible
not this.
>>15308277
epic curve is cancer
032fe4 No.15308412
>>15308405
>epic curve is cancer
Why is that? The only problem that I've seen is that when someone tried to implement the curve mid-game it fucked everything up. But if it's used from the start it works. The benefit I see of using it is that when the town's [insert job] decides to leave out of nowhere, someone else can grind out that skill and get to a somewhat decent level quickly so that the town doesn't collapse.
388a18 No.15309021
Host of the last server here, I did not make this thread and I'm not releasing a server soon, however I have been working on the next server, and it'll come out in a couple of months. Unless someone is planning on releasing their own high quality, well-made server, then this thread is a waste of time.
79967a No.15309033
can we just fucking play already you shitstains??
032fe4 No.15309155
>>15309021
>high quality, well-made server, then this thread is a waste of time.
Just like yours right?
>>15309033
6 months
388a18 No.15309179
>>15309155
I will not deny and say my other server was fucking atrocious, but thats because there was no planning in it. The next one will actually be set up :^)
5e3741 No.15309207
>>15308127
>8k
Killed the last serb don't fucking do this. Endless NOTHING makes the thing unplayable, you have to be able to get out of town and back in one session or you'll haemorrhage players like a stuck pig.
5e3741 No.15309224
>>15308405
>8k map
>2x-3x
>this is what is happening
Enjoy your ded serb idiot.
090053 No.15309307
>>15309021
next eco server, please put the Improved Mining eco-mods.com/threads/bettermining-asphalt-mdk.121/ mod.
I might lose my sanity mining forever otherwise. Last serb I got so burned out of hunting big shards that I didn't even didn't bother keep playing after finally getting the skid steer
324e22 No.15309437
THE SAME FUCKING THING HAPPENS EVERY TIME:
#1) New server comes online
#2) The same 15 people log on
#3) Everyone bots to 90 skill
#4) Everyone quits because there is nothing left to do
And then people will come into the thread denying that this happens.
I pray every day that Epic 2.0 will be released in Wurm Online, so that you fucking autists can experience what real Wurm is, and so that we can relive our glory days.
5e3741 No.15309463
What Wurm really needs is a dedicated DM, someone with either a lot of time on their hands to meddle where needed/wanted and/or a lot of shit up their sleeve ready at launch or shortly thereafter, let everyone get going for a week then start dropping missions on individuals (or groups), charging them with tasks fitting to their role. Shiny hat if they do it, maybe a curse of some sort if not.The kind of DM who'll hover over a player's shoulder for a bit to see what makes them tick then craft a goal for them to attain, something to make players feel wanted or like they're useful to the town. Wurm has a lot of potential but clearly takes a lot of effort to set PVE things up correctly for a comparatively short pay-off (since Pvp is a romanticised wasteland) while making sure everyone from an overtaxed smith who's barely moved since the start to a pig-based shadow boxer FS Autist gets a challenge.
It either needs a DM story going in the background or frequent re-fills of nasty, killable, bastards on the roam to keep the PvP starved trophy hunters around cos annoying as they might get once they're gone it oh so briefly turns into stable Comfytown which then pares down to a handful of niggers who're jack-of-most-trades but very specialised, then it drops to me playing Sims decorating my 3x3 cube and a couple of ubernerds who sit there refining their bots to play the game for them and building gigantic things at a terrifying rate. An injection of longevity is what's needed I'd like to see us get to the crazy builds while we still have a population.
Oh well.
5e3741 No.15309488
>>15309437
>#3) Everyone bots to 90 skill
No-one ever gets there though, there's only one true botfag, even Fen was just using autoclickers on multiple clients that whole time, anyone not using an auto clicker to up their shit (especially mining) is insane.
032fe4 No.15309491
>>15309437
>>15309463
Pretty much this. We need an autist DM who can't be bullied.
21ff10 No.15309498
>>15304917
>>15308405
I want to believe but I'm skeptical.
Prove you're serious and that this isn't just bait.
388a18 No.15309505
>>15309463
>>15309491
I don't mind hosting and being a dedicated dm, but I'd rather not let what happened last time happen again, hence why I'm preparing months ahead.
>>15309498
Its bait until proven otherwise.
032fe4 No.15309509
>>15309505
I wish you the best of luck. A tip from DMing in DnD and just playing Wurm in general, always prepare for the group to fuck every little thing up that you try to steer us towards.
5e3741 No.15309511
>>15309505
>I don't mind hosting and being a dedicated dm, but I'd rather not let what happened last time happen again, hence why I'm preparing months ahead.
I like these sounds.
0650dc No.15309564
Last serb was an abortion that managed to live 2 weeks in a dumpster. Just about everything that could happen to fuck up a server happened.
We dont have the population to have more than 1 settlement.
We dont have enough people for anything higher than 2k map.
We have botfags grind 24/7 to level 90 and then quit from boredom (cheating in any game ruins it for your self and everyone else)
I'm not playing any other serb unless you retards manage to convince a horde of normalfags to come and play against us. Or join a normalfag PVP server.
There needs to be a no macro rule that is regularly enforced by summoning a fucking ogre beside them if they don't respond within 3 minutes. Seriously botting is the number one cancer in the game above everything else.
5e3741 No.15309661
>>15309564
>We have botfags grind 24/7 to level 90 and then quit from boredom
This doesn't really happen, not with bots and certainly not to that extent maybe to the 70s and the ones who approach that are the last to quit.
Even Fen wasn't a botfag, there is an actual one now though Sanae/Reimu and he went off innawoods to do his own thing on the last one, some people do have an alt(s) true, I don't but I can see why. Auto clickers are needed, you can't expect people to mine without one.
21ff10 No.15309686
>>15309564
8k is definitely out of the question after the last map. Spreading ~30 anons across 60 million tiles was retarded and exacerbated the server's death throes. 1 person leaving in a town of 20 isn't too bad, but in a village of 4 or 5 the loss of skill and labor can be felt for days as the remaining players try to take on the jobs the other person used to have. Wurm shines when people are able to specialize, so when people are unable to do that because they're lacking basic shit like a farmer or blacksmith the game starts to become unfun unless you're a veteran hermitfag who's used to doing that shit anyway
032fe4 No.15309708
>>15309564
Botting is a problem, but there is really no way to detect if someone is botting or not without hovering over them 24/7. Even on the normalfag servers the admins have no way to prevent them aside from having multiple admins dedicated to the job.
324e22 No.15309714
>>15309463
>since Pvp is a romanticised wasteland
Maybe in Wurm Unlimited. You don't know what it was like in the real game, where everything you worked so hard for was at risk of being destroyed. There was no better feeling than raiding enemy towns and stealing all of their shit. There was no worse feeling than having all of your shit destroyed. Having 20 people pop into your local while you're grinding is TERRIFYING, WO managed to give PvP an actual life-or-death feel, something most MMOs lack.
35d0e9 No.15309730
In order to revive it…
…you first have to let it die.
0650dc No.15309777
>>15309661
>this doesnt really happen
Son some autist fattened a massive mine that seemed to be 50x50 by botting 24/7 for days.
Some other autist botted bow making 24/7 and left about a dozen piles of improved bows all over the place.
If it doesn't happen, then why would you care if no botting is enforced?
>>15309708
Half assed enforcement is infinitely better than zero enforcement and allowing people to lazily bot away all day and night without consequence. All it takes to stop 99% of botting is for admins to hop around once in a while and fuck with people that are afk grinding.
There should be zero tolerance for botting, since giving people an inch to bot priest resulted in everyone taking a mile and botting everything. Just fix priest, make it so they can pray once a day for 5 levels or some shit, and make the rates X5, X5 so no one complains.
Either way, you dumb bakas better not attempt to start another server until at least December. If you see someone trying to shill their Wurm serb before than, please bully them mercilessly for the integrity of the /v/ Wurm community.
090053 No.15309783
>>15309488
Not only I've developed an bot that is soon able to connect multiple characters in a single client, but also accidentally created a 'you see this character your client crashes' bug.
Attempting to connect more than once on the same client can actually cause a server breaking bug. I had fucked up the spawn and black light while attempting to march 9 characters to the black light.
You cannot fix this client side, I had not only fucked up the spawn and black light, but lost the alts whose were 'performing the dance of server death', since they couldn't log in due to 'being moved by the server' forever
090053 No.15309807
>>15309564
>by summoning a fucking ogre beside them if they don't respond within 3 minutes
Dude, I WILL make a discord/telegram bot to link my local chat with my cellphone if I have to, you can't stop my botting.
Also, I will soon be mass summoning those ogres for farming
4923b4 No.15309815
>>15309714
if burnout weren't such a problem, raiding in unlimited would be better than online now
the issue online now has is that people spend money on the game, you can get upwards of $200 for a full set of dragonscale armor, and if you get killed you just lost all that money you spent
combine that with an apparent event in online's history where one kingdom adopted scorched-earth tactics and outright razed deeds during raids, as well as the aging playerbase, and everyone just stopped caring about PVP
with unlimited all you lose is time
0650dc No.15309819
>>15309807
It will certainly reduce your ability to bot since you cant stay at your computer 24/7.
Tbh if someone openly admits to trying to get away with botting like this they should just have their character deleted.
090053 No.15309838
>>15309777
>Just fix priest, make it so they can pray once a day for 5 levels or some shit
that won't fix it, it's the casting grind that kills you, faith is just a stepping stone, but that would certainly be appreciated.
The aforementioned 9 alts were just for being a battery for my priest to better grind casting.
Remove casting and have all casting calculations use faith, and have faith skill gain only once per day. Then I won't bot a priest, nor have multiple of it. Of course, remove the 1 skill per gain limit, or have everyone start at 20 faith. Otherwise it will take literally 20 days to reach 20 faith
Also, after being spoiled by Eco, where you actually have cooperation and an economy, I don't think I will ever go back to wurm, if not to make the ultimate wurm bot and then release it into the forums to kill Wurm Online/Ultimate for good, that is
4923b4 No.15309844
>>15309564
>spawning ogres
>not dropping the skill the bot's grinding by 10 points
032fe4 No.15309864
>>15309844
>not wanting to get the admin to spawn ogres on your bot on purpose for the sole reason of getting people you hate to also die with you
5e3741 No.15309915
>>15309777
>Son some autist fattened a massive mine that seemed to be 50x50 by botting 24/7 for days.
Yeah that was done by the botter and another player.with an auto clicker took fucking ages.
>Some other autist botted bow making 24/7 and left about a dozen piles of improved bows all over the place.
>bows
Big deal, who cares about bows? You're attributing a lot of auto clicker activity to bots it's inaccurate.is all.
21ff10 No.15309935
>>15309777
bowmaker here. I wanted to get the skill out of the way as fast as possible so a) I could hunt mobs and raise my fight skill for once and b) if shitters from an enemy Kingdom (it was only after I stopped bowmaking did we learn they were millions of miles away and posed zero threat) sailed around we could take decent potshots at them. The kicker is barely a single person ever used the bows I made, either because they regarded Archery as underpowered (wew) or because they had already trained their fight skill so high that they killed things faster with the huge clubs that were overly buffed by the armoury mod the server was running, so all the time spent getting my bowmaking skill up was of zero consequence.
The mine wasn't made by me but it was cleared out because it's where we were going to put our town's houses in, but that didn't stop niggers from throwing up shitshacks all around outside the mine entrance. In the end, only a single house was ever built in the mine and it wasn't even in the cleared out area, so it was just another thing of zero consequence or game impact.
After I was done bowmaking, our weaponsmith had gone AWOL so I took over that job out of necessity. The bows weren't even that good, I could only get them up to 40, 50 if I got lucky with the improve actions not requiring a log. I could've gone up to 70 but by the time we had a woodcutter capable of providing good logs I was already making weapons trying to catch up to the skill our old weaponsmith had.
When I quit, it wasn't out of "boredom" it was because almost everyone was gone and the server was being used to assess events and combat balance. Some of the gear the events gave out was OP compared to anything I could make, which made my time spent weaponsmithing feel useless since our top fighters weren't even using gear we'd made.
tl;dr
the botters (and everyone else's) time spent amounted to nothing because the server was so structurally fucked. Everyone being so spread out meant each place had everyone doing the same "essential" jobs like farming and mining that no one could sit back and autism something like puppeteering. The uLtRa hArDcOre PvP focus the server was going for also meant that slowing down in something like weaponsmithing or armorsmithing put the thought in the back of your head that you're falling behind the other autists who would love to raid your shit.
beb34c No.15309966
90c8df No.15310124
Fuck off we don't need this we're all on burn out. wait till next summer so the burnouts over and something actually good will be ready t. fixit
0650dc No.15310222
>>15309915
>>15309935
>who cares about X its not even that good
>so it doesn't matter if I afk grind that skill to 80
I don't give a shit if you bot carve wooden dildos that serve no other purpose than going up your asshole. Botting is still botting. You're still raising your other attributes by doing carving.
That fag flattening the mine certainly wasn't just an autoclicker, he was periodically moving in perfectly straight lines and stopping dead center on tiles for countless hours on end.
Even if it was just an auto clicker it doesn't make it any more acceptable to gain a tremendous advantage over everyone who isn't a faggot.
Those who play genuinely ask them selves why they bother putting effort into it when there are 3 other fags next to him just afking and raising all their shit passively.
090053 No.15310230
>>15310222
>he was periodically moving in perfectly straight lines and stopping dead center on tiles for countless hours on end
my bot can detect tiles based on parameters like height and if it's flatten or not and if it's adjacent to another tile in similar fashion, and then execute actions targeting the found tile.
Also, pathfinding on caves
>:^)
<Those who play genuinely ask themselves why they bother putting effort
>People playing the shitty game ask themselves why they didn't learn how to code instead of doing this fucking job for hours to end like a retarded slave or some shit
032fe4 No.15310236
>>15310230
Wanna share those bots?
0650dc No.15310243
>>15310230
Yeah I figured you could read the mesh data and compare it to adjacent tiles ya' faggot. Whats the point of bring that up?
>people who play the game wonder why they don't just cheat and get bored of it within 3 days
Why even bother playing games then?
090053 No.15310263
>>15310243
I enjoyed improving the bot to no end, but there's no point on having a bot if the server is dead, so I don't do that unless there's a server running
>>15310236
I will hold on into killing Wurm Unlimited for a while longer. Possibly not gonna release before it can be used for combat, so that it will 100% kill every server people bring it on, and maybe some anti-detection features (like chat<->discord/telegram connection), to make sure it will kill all public servers
0650dc No.15310288
>>15310263
>force Wurm devs to create some kind of client tampering detection
Go for it faggot. Would be great if the server periodically checked the byte code of clients and compared it to the expected client + mods and raised a flag for the admins if someone altered it.
090053 No.15310298
>>15310288
You do know that the server needs to ask the client for the client to run this test, right?
The server can't run arbitrary code in the client (at least, without first going through the client).
Both of which can be solved by 'modding the checking method' :^)
4923b4 No.15310328
>>15310263
>stopping at wurm unlimited
if you're going to kill the game at least kill it for the dads while you're at it
0650dc No.15310338
>>15310298
The better solution would be to rewrite the game and run the fucking thing through a code obfuscator before releasing, or better yet write it in something the java shitcoders can't easily decompile and mess with.
It would be much more difficult to fuck with it if the methods and variables were called "var0, var1", "method0, method1". Who ever thought it would be a good idea to keep the variable names and shit in the compiled code was an idiot.
Either way you're a fag.
032fe4 No.15310526
>>15310338
>java shitcoders
What are you talking about? The wurm team are very competent coders.
1e6468 No.15310581
>>15310526
That's a legit use of case, what's the problem here cuck?
6eda92 No.15310631
You niggers are completely fucking crazy and borderline suicidal. You keep doing this to yourselves and you never ever learn.
8bd6bb No.15310655
>>15310581
If you're using a case like that then use a lookup table and multiply the result.
My Java is a bit rusty, something like this should work:
float[] rarities = {
0.0f, 0.03f, 0.06f, 0.09f
};
public static getRarityArmorBonus(byte rarity) {
final float MODIFIER = 0.03f;
return rarities[rarity] * MODIFIER;
}
b0aafe No.15310673
>>15310631
t. nigger enabler
090053 No.15310676
>>15310338
rolf code is the best obfuscator in the market
aefc2e No.15310825
8f608b No.15311041
>>15309207
It's sarcasm, hence the line about the water %
8f608b No.15311060
It's time for a new group of people that have no idea how to play come join. The old guard are burnouts who only care to argue for shitty suggestions like low multipliers and 8k maps, or now the sudden surge of scriptkiddie botfags who may or may not be BR. Since you guys are insistent on not having new people, no server is going to work so just don't even try.
5e3741 No.15312453
>>15310222
I said it was the bot guy AND a guy with an autoclicker who did the mine, it didn't even get used anyway and the bot guy left us, so what ever 'tremendous advantage' that provided was pointless. EVERY cunt uses auto-clickers in this, you have to if you want to retain your sanity, I had to take up fucking mining last run myself, (after grinding up my main skills honestly) to get into the 40s, without an auto clicker do you have the slightest conception of how monotonous and time consuming that is? Nevermind going any higher with it.
At worst I autoclick tedious simple jobs like anyone with a brain would, you want to sit there in front of the screen inputting 1000 clicks to get one block down, then go enjoy yourself.
I'm not excusing botters, they mostly just serve themselves anyway barring the odd big build but I do like to see what they can pull off, whining about them is utterly pointless, being a purist just hobbles you, you must deal with reality and not your personal ideals.
d2ae47 No.15312576
>>15311060
I was such a player, bought a key and was excited for the server, seemed like a deep and complex RPG. And then lo and behold, nope, it's just 99% repeated mind-numbing click click click grinding. It's unacceptable, the gameplay loop is so bad the whole thing can be flushed down the shitter for all I care.
032fe4 No.15313795
So who wants to join a quickly thrown together server just to get your fix while we wait for the real server??
0650dc No.15313902
>>15310655
>getRarityArmorBonus(5);
Error: Index was outside the array.
*Clap Clap Clap* well done.
In the switch case it would have defaulted to rarity*0.03f. Yours has no error prevention and would crash the game with no survivors if someone passed in an invalid value.
0650dc No.15313920
>>15313795
Try joining a normalfag server u baka.
Forgot to sage last time.
Let it die already and don't come back until the start of next summer.
96770f No.15315396
>>15304917
>making a thread now when winter is still months off and you discordians are still ironing your shit out
How about you calm the fuck down? Yes, obviously I'll play again, but fuck's sake, really? A thread now? The mods better not gank each other again and leave the server over hurt feefees. The map better by 4000. I'm still thinking of going BL, but if I end up trailing your Spurdans again, what's the risk of you lads choosing to dorf it up like last serb? I need my farms. I need my comfy. We're doing a proper town, right? With some actual city planning? Yes? Maybe? Please?
96770f No.15315421
>>15307279
>$12
>not $1
The Chinese called, they want to remind you that they're your greatest ally.
https://www.g2a.com/wurm-unlimited-steam-key-global-i10000006651002
>>15308127
>anything less than 8k is too shitty.
If we do 8k again I'm going to find you, specifically, for recommending it. 8k is a mistake. We have had multiple threads on this very subject. No 8k.
>>15309437
As I will forever argue: If you are playing Wurm for stats alone, you are not playing Wurm correctly. You make your comfy town with your comfy friends so you can make comfy raids on uncomfy monsters and btfo of your neighbors for being unaesthetic faggots. People need to stop burning themselves out for no reason and adhere to the Law of Aestheticism.
21ff10 No.15316236
>>15315396
>With some actual city planning
Depends on your definition of planning and how much of it you want. Broschwitz had the largest amount of planning behind it so far with its large town square, wide roads, and centrally located public storage area, but I've heard several anons say that the amount of planning made it seem pretty soulless compared to a "natural" town like Brosmouth or even Spurda where we just slapped our shit down and worked from there.
b0aafe No.15316311
>>15316284
damn thats small. 8k all the way
b4827e No.15316326
>>15316284
With the walk speed of Wurm? Oh yeah, let's make it as large as possible. Seriously mate,
were you on the last server? Starting out and trying
to walk around was cancer. Seriously, these other games have cars/fast travel, Wurm has
a walking speed that a snail would scoff at.
96770f No.15316327
>>15316236
Broschwitz was great except for all the empty room. So I would agree that there needs to be some natural town growth, surely so. But at the very least, really, how difficult is it to lay out space for a town square and go from there? Spurda was a mess thanks to the town square being the very last thing the community decided to do, and by the time that happened nobody had the interest do complete any other big projects outside of the colossus, and by then it was just the four of us left to make it. Townsquare first, inn and planned specialty "businesses" located thereon and lining the main streets, maybe a park, then your residentials and farming spreading out from there. General layout stuff. The kind of layout stuff you'd expect in a town. Double roads for the main roads. Single-tile for the side roads. Maybe districts.
>>15316284
>>15316311
i sweer to me mum u fukkin cunts ye i'll nack yer fukken gabbers inter ye fukken heads m8s
4000 works. It just does. 8000 failed, it's a dead meme.
032fe4 No.15316364
Always remember to plan your raids in advance and tell the other town exactly when you plan to do it! The enemy town also needs to agree as well otherwise it's offline raiding!
96770f No.15316410
>>15316364
HOTS didn't even put up a fight last serb. They left almost immediately after their town was discovered.
0650dc No.15316466
>>15316284
>>15316311
Difference between those fuck huge game maps and our wurm serbs is a highly paid professional design team of several people spending years hand crafting the world, and a lone autist randomly generating a map and then fucking with the height map to add rivers and shit in Gimp for a week.
The 8k map was a giant sea of the same trees repeating for miles and the same few mobs scattered between them. It was boring and pointless. The muh explore fag just spent hours sailing down one river and back up a single time and that was all.
Unless you faggots want to spend $100,000 on professional designers fuck off.
>>15316327
Sage the thread you faggots.
0650dc No.15316491
>>15316284
>Tanaris is bigger than the entire Spurda map
Seems to me like you're just retarded. You could auto walk across Tanaris in probably 10 minutes on foot. I haven't played WoW in ages, it might even be 5 minutes.
You dumb bakas really need to stop posting this image when it looks so ridiculously inaccurate.
21ff10 No.15316781
Since it will probably never ever get built even if a new server opens I might as well post it here as a proof of concept.
I call it Festung Siegreich.
It is an unconquerable bulwark designed to protect the Settlement token and central Guard tower at all costs while at the same time allowing the main town to develop independently.
The cobblestone roads are meant to stretch out up to the main entrances of the town.
LITERALLY ANYTHING can be built on the grass. Farmland, houses, colossus spam, it does not matter. There is only one rule and I call it the "locked down border rule": If what you're building borders on the cobblestone or main square, make absolutely sure that EVERY tile border between the pavement and grass you're using is occupied by either a wall, door, fence, gate, or any other impassable object/passable object that can be locked, and make sure that anything on the grass/cobble border that can be locked is indeed locked.
The reason for this is to funnel attackers into a decisive final engagement in the town center where the defenders would be able to safely bandage inside the buildings while the attackers would be constantly harassed by undamaged defenders, town guards, and archery towers. If an opening was allowed along the side of the main road, it could potentially lead into a network of alleyways allowing the attackers to maneuver through the residential town proper, giving them an opportunity to loot and attempt an escape before the defenders have enough time to react. Theoretically the locked down border rule would also apply to land bordering a tile touching an outer town wall so that if the besiegers enter the town by destroying a wall instead of going through a gate they still cannot quickly access the town's inner districts.
The four main slate paths leading up to the summit are a steady incline with each flat tile border possessing a gate that must be lockpicked or bashed to continue upwards, slowing even the most determined attackers progress to the center keep, giving the defenders time to rally and plan a counter-attack.
The four large squares between the four paths leading up are all farmland, each with a large defensive silo in the corner which doubles as a secondary defensive tower allowing archers to fire on attackers as they try to bash down or lockpick the fences and gates.
Across each patch of farmland is a lattice of even more fences and gates which would be easily navigable by the locals who would get used to it, but completely labyrinthine to outsiders. An attacker would have to scrape and claw to achieve a feat as small as stealing a patch of crops.
The four patches of farmland would generally used to grow whatever the town needs most, but otherwise would be used to stockpile "useful" crops like cotton, wemp, garlic, etc. to safeguard against shortages.
Through careful planning and preparation, a small garrison would be able to hold out against a much larger force almost indefinitely.
With this impenetrable town center, the surrounding townsfolk are free to expand and develop the land as they wish. Build a mountain, dig a valley, anything is permitted as long as at the end of the day the roads are kept secure.
aa1a0c No.15316828
>>15316284
This picture is wrong on so many levels.
The map sizes are wrong, which maps are bigger than which is wrong, and you're pretending all those games have accurate scales, which none of them do.
96770f No.15316849
>>15316466
>Sage the thread you faggots.
Eat my shorts.
>>15316781
Imagine how much fun it'd be to drag enough dirt to allow the sloping for this.
b0aafe No.15316887
21ff10 No.15316892
>>15316849
Assuming a completely flat plane it would take 6400 dirt by my calculations.
>>15316887
stone brick repair squad
9e4b00 No.15316926
>>15316466
Here's your bump my dude
5e3741 No.15317036
>>15316284
IF THERE'S NOTHING IN IT IT'S A FUCKING WASTELAND.
Until there are cars and planes stop pushing this bullshit.
04ab36 No.15317150
>>15316284
i'll admit though 4k is a reasonable compromise
aa1a0c No.15317169
>>15317150
<a literal woman pops in
>an hour of travel with the fastest mounts in game is a reasonable compromise
04ab36 No.15317176
>>15317169
>casuals playing wurm
231142 No.15318034
Pirate friendly serb right here
It's LITERALLY a russian serb, but as i've seen - they are cool. Polar opposite of the WRC/DRC serb admins.
They are even working on a mega mod serb - overhauls and RPG system implementation, as i have understood they gonna make another serb for it and you could sail over to it by boat.
>IP 88.87.84.203 port 20000
>PVE only with Rift and events
>Rates - Skill x2 and Speed x1 (might be wrong, not sure)
>Map - 8096x8096 with portals
>Mods - allowed and they have serverside mods too
>LINK TO CLIENT
https://mega.nz/#!6JcziIhY!Cbb0krA5aZhxlDHzmtM9KjOjqSVOe11qCIQtPoxSnpw
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BRpG9iHPtZ-3bdK6qK4_6iZpbCblriGI
>Extra info (rus only)
Server setup - https://gamecoma.ru/forum/threads/kak-nachat-igrat-v-wurm-unlimited-na-nashem-servere.5558/
Serverside mods - https://gamecoma.ru/forum/threads/vse-chto-nuzhno-znat-o-servere-i-ustanovlennyx-modifikacijax.5560/
pic is some of the custom monsters
96770f No.15318047
>>15318034
oh shit nigga what are you doing
f84a51 No.15318457
>>15318034
>rift
fug
the only loot i havent got my hands on is neat pauldrons
those rates are ass though. i need me at least 3x speed
21ff10 No.15318965
>>15318034
>log in
>walk 5 steps out of the starter area
>see this
0869bf No.15319579
96770f No.15319734
0650dc No.15319794
>>15319579
The conditioning has been successful.
8f608b No.15320541
>>15315421
>thinking I suggested 8k
How can you play a game that involves reading the wiki every second without being able to read? How can you read that post and think I was serious?
96770f No.15321242
>>15320541
Is the wiki written in sarcasm? All those people who made all those suggestions last time and fucked everything for all of us, you think typing like that is suppose to make a distinction between their retardation and your "i'm totally not retarded, i'm just meming!" You overvalue yourself.
04ab36 No.15321259
i think it should be a 16k map. this way if someone wants to fuck with you or your shit there's an actual commitment required. it should take 3 IRL days to get there, you should have to bring along food and water and supplies, and if you die, then it means something because you lost 3 days getting to the other side of the map, and you'll never recover your body before it disappears.
04ab36 No.15321264
>>15321259
imagine lord of the rings. it wouldn't be much of an adventure if mordor was a 15 minute walk now would it.
2ede61 No.15321271
>>15308175
>8k
Why is this meme still being pushed? If you played it at all and remembered correctly many of us complained that the map was TOO big in the last serb, it made PVP shenanigans extremely difficult to get into. At the very most 6k would be alright and at the very least it should be 4K. Those would be the happy mediums in terms of map size.
>>15307279
>12 dollarydoos
There's a chinese website where it costs less than $1 or if you want to use a more secure one you can pay around $1.18 or something for it.
04ab36 No.15322802
>>15321271
steam will revoke those keys eventually and g2a is notorious for charging you an extra $20 monthly for (((insurance))) even though you explicitly unchecked the option and they'll keep charging your card over and over again, it's difficult to get them to stop.
use a prepaid on g2a only. do not give them your debit card.
2ede61 No.15323362
>>15322802
I used a yurop website that charged a bit extra for the game. They seem to be alright as I bought there before and didn't get odd charges. I think I payed around 1.29 or 1.49 for the game.
a8a2e1 No.15323421
>>15321271
>PVP
Anybody that thinks we can have proper PVP on a /v/ private server is deluding themselves. Besides the occasional small encounters in the wilderness there's no way an already fragmented group of autists from this shithole would be able to plan a raid on a settlement. If we want PVP, we'd need a public server with normalfags, otherwise everyone's going to be split up into villages of like 5-6 people. With villages like that, once a single person with an even semi-important job quits the whole village becomes gimped and everyone else there quits. This is what happened in the village I was in last server, our only somewhat trained blacksmith/miner quit after only a few days and the whole village was fucked and had no direction or motivation to keep going. Honestly, I'd prefer either a private server where we all go the same kingdom a few HoTS fags can join if they want that kind of thing and have an admin that sets up regular PVE events with worthwhile rewards OR we all team up on a normalfag serb and fuck with the russians who aren't used to people fucking with them. Either way I think that when we split ourselves up in any significant way the server is doomed from the start. all I want to do is some grindan' and build my autism mansion in a comfy village and shitpost
beb34c No.15323455
032fe4 No.15323570
>>15323421
What if we had two maps; the main one being 4k pve where most people can build their kingdoms/villages and a very small pvp map that could only support 2 villages max.
Make it so that people can't easily transfer between maps.
0650dc No.15323600
>>15321259
>>15321264
Why not just go full retard and make it 128k map so it would take a real life month to get there? I don't think Frodo made it to LaCreatura's nest in 3 days.
96770f No.15323722
>>15323421
Everything in this post is wrong.
>>15323570
So is this. Stop being wrong.
21ff10 No.15323859
>>15323421
>>15323570
On a usual /v/ server we tend to have
>cityfags
>hermitfags
<skillingchads
>pvpfags
>hotsniggers
Using this as a list of people to take into consideration when making a server, I suggest this:
We do exactly what the slavserver did, more or less. Two kingdoms: One whitelight and one blacklight.
Whitelight has a general rule of "Only bully fags that deserve it." And niggerlighters always deserve it. If a hermitfag isn't doing something retarded like settling two feet away from town or worshiping the dark god then you've got no reason to violate the NAP.
Blacklight has no rules. Backstabbing, stealing, and raiding is encouraged. The only thing stopping you from killing the player next to you is how much it will bite you in the ass later. If you've just come back from raiding whitey and you see your partner looted a supreme huge axe, then go for it muhfugga bix nood.
What's expected to happen with this is the main bulk of the population will go whitelight and build a city there, with the usual hermitfags spreading out through the countryside as they typically do.
On blacklight side it's expected you'll have the usual hotsfags along with any other anons who would join for a variety of reasons like wanting to raid like vikangz n shieet, wanting to hermitfag on hardcore difficulty, or just wanting to commit heresy in general because some of Libila's enchants are pretty decent.
The expected dynamic to come from this is that blacklight will compete among themselves for a bit and occasionally unite under one Big Nig for a dark crusade into the whitelight's lands.
On whitelight's side it will just be wurm as usual. Big town, comfy farms, newfags shitting up the chat. It's just that from time to time heretical fags will come over the horizon to keep things interesting.
To allow for "fair" PvP between the best both sides have to offer, the HotA can be implemented. On official servers, the HotA awards starmetal to the winners so both sides have a vested interest in attending and winning. It's a built-in game feature that runs by itself in a designated HotA Zone and lets everyone know when a new HotA is going to begin soon so they can gather their forces.
04ab36 No.15323879
>>15323600
if only it were possible. use heightmap data for all of africa and make sure there's plenty of nigger enemies spawned everywhere.
65c2c8 No.15324673
>>15323859
Not going to lie this sounds pretty cool and I relish the chance of actual PVP in Wurm since I seemed to always be offline when there's been an attack on the other serbs.
>>15323421
Yes I've experienced this, fags always talked of raising HoTS but never actually got around to getting a large scale raid except maybe one time and I was offline for that one. I wouldn't mind if we all banded together on a public Serb that isn't cancer or maybe we can make our own public server and have a strictly two kingdom system with what >>15323859 said, but the two kingdom system lends itself to letting normalfags in which isn't necessarily a bad thing if they aren't pozzed.
7e9c73 No.15325864
>>15318034
>PVE only
t r a s h
moot point because every serb will implode faster and faster as more anons realize they will never recapture that magic
bd5ba8 No.15330285
>>15318965
As i said - the admins and hosts are quite the "memesters"
0650dc No.15330328
>>15318034
>PVE
Delet your Sys32.
21ff10 No.15332392
>>15325864
>>15330328
Gonna play devil's advocate for a second and point out that the server Brosmouth was on was mainly PvE in practice but we were still able to fuck over our neighbors like that one Artorias guy. Sure there was the HotA and HotS but serious fighting or village raiding was pretty much completely unheard of.
In fact the only interaction with HotS that we had at all was one (1) faggot who would shit up the threads with his /fit/ girl fetish. I wonder what happened to that guy and if he still lurks here
My point is that PvE alone does not preclude a good time. My trouble with the map is that it's so big that it would be a pain in the ass to find a slavic Artorias to torture and even if by some miracle we did find one, he probably wouldn't even know enough english to bitch at us about it.
96770f No.15332465
>>15332392
>>15318034
>>15318965
If there are people playing this for a quick fix before winter serb, drop some info as to how to join you for a settlement. Might as well.
8a90f9 No.15332854
>>15332465
Agreed, but I start school soon so it might be too late already.
6254c6 No.15332957
>>15330328
Wurm is pretty much a PvE game. If you want a pure pvp experience Wurm is not the best of choices.
7e9c73 No.15337529
>>15332392
Brosmouth/Broschwitz also had PvEfags bitching to faggy admins to shut us down, which they eventually did. I'm sure a bunch of the slavlands' choice autists will be even quicker to kick out a sudden surge of English-speaking rusemen who appeared to heckle their bread and butter.
The problem with having normalfags to bully, PvE or PvP, is the game is too dead to attract normalfags to a new server, and the few servers with any amount of population are euro nanny state sims that'll have the whole /v/illage banned within the weak.
bd5ba8 No.15338142
>>15337529
Umm in this new russian serb they actually want players of any kind. Without a doubt they are shitposters too.
We all started out as PvE and i don't see the problem. PvP is plain and simple shitpostin, PvE only is smart and ingenious shiposting - we have to actually scratch our heads to bully someone.
96770f No.15338270
>>15338142
Okay, but how to find you nigs?
bd5ba8 No.15338327
>>15338270
Well i am alone currently and no village. Plus the spot i am at is pretty shit, since its hard to get to trees.
I will post in the Global chat right now.
bd5ba8 No.15338364
>>15338270
And here i am, waiting on you
0398b5 No.15338423
>>15310526
>>15310655
TBH the real problem with wurm is that a crap ton of these constants are buried in the code instead of being read from a database, or whatever. Which is probably fine for its original purpose of being a modestly multiplayer online game, since the host would have access to the source code anyway, but sucks for customization in WU.
8a90f9 No.15350200
What's with the pure autism of people who go out of their way to make sure people don't play wurm?
96770f No.15350208
>>15338364
Post your name so I can msg you personally on the instance I hop on.
>>15350200
People want to play, but some on our own serb for reasons. Some are simply butthurt.
04ab36 No.15350881
>>15350208
casuals can't handle playing on a server that's up for longer than 3 weeks without 50x/50x rates a map larger than 2k and epic curve.
21ff10 No.15350986
>>15350881
I'd honestly be fine with little more than a slow paced long-term server at this point, something that would at the very least would last at least half a year. Even in a tiny village it'd be nice to just log-in, harvest some crops, check out what other people started doing while I was offline, start a pet project of my own, and log-off to repeat the process the next day.
It's just that there needs to be SOMEONE to make a village with and there needs to be confidence that the server won't die in a month.
Now to be completely clear, am I asking for 1x/1x, no starting tools? No. All I'm asking for are anons and a somewhat stable server.
96770f No.15351062
>>15350986
Maybe the next admin won't be an alcoholic who shits all over his help.
d1dbf0 No.15351065
With every Server that doesn't at least last 3 Months at a reasonably high population you are killing /v/s Wurm community more and more. If you want to do it you have to do it right. Whoever hosts the next serb has to be the apex autisimo, his sweat and blood has to flow into the serb, it has to be a masterpiece that learns from the past servers, both successful and failed, while also doing something new that grants us new purpose.
Honestly, I have no hope for this. You faggots will find a way to fuck it up, be it the good old discord VS boardposter discussion, some more internal drama, two servers being hosted at once, some shitty server setting that ruins it all… you will find a way. The golden age is over. Only a true hero of autism could save the /v/illagers.
c3914d No.15352536
I love wurm like I love SS13 but lets face it, we will never have a stable serb.
0650dc No.15352598
>>15332465
>winter serb
You mean summer serb? See you next May you cunt.
Let it die.
0869bf No.15352993
>>15352598
>may
thats winter you tard
4b3db4 No.15353137
>>15332465
>>15315396
>need my fix
Wurm is for junkies.
96770f No.15353219
>>15353137
>vidya is for junkies.
fix'd
9016b6 No.15353296
>8k map
Literally the reason the previous serb died.
>2k map
Literally the reason Spurda died.
Make it 4k.
.t FuriousFuhrer
4b3db4 No.15353316
>>15353219
Wurm is a game where you run around the forest aimlessly chasing dragons
0869bf No.15353451
>game lasted the longest, 4 months, on a 4k server that could have and should have lasted longer
this >>15353296
8a90f9 No.15354361
>>15351065
What we need is a public serb with custom mods/content. I can say from experience that people here will play longer if we know there are a bunch of normals out there looking to kill us.
0650dc No.15354462
>>15350200
>why don't people want some impulsive tards tarnishing the /v/urm community every 2 months
For each one of your half-assed serbs more and more regulars decide not to join the next one. The last one didn't even go 1 week without 90% of the population quitting. And then 96% after week 2.
4b3db4 No.15354951
"The perfect server is real! I saw it! Just keep waiting 6 more months, I swear."
f84a51 No.15354984
Personally I don't trust anyone from 8ch to do it right (based on previous servers in this game and others). Should get the Brohan guys on board or just infest an already existing server.
bf3616 No.15355058
>>15354984
There is no way to do a /v/urm serb right. The PvEfags want an 8k map so they can find their perfect location, while the PvPfags want a 2k so they can get their thrills quickly. PvEfags dislike priest restrictions as they're tired of either asking the guy with a priest alt to chant something and PvPfags are terrified of fighting someone at similar strength who can also heal their self. Anons no longer want to bother with "/v/" servers infested with shitcord and cuckchan. Manual vs marco, high rates vs low rates, mountains vs plains, deed size, guard limit, upkeep yes/no, what mods to get, what mods are cheating, and a slew of other shit I can't name off the top of my head. All of these issues will drive away players from a very small playerbase, this snowballs as the guys playing happily grow bored with playing with seven other guys total.
You cannot do a perfect /v/urm server. What you can do, should someone decide they wanted to host, is carefully consider what kind of server you want to host. After you've figured out the specifics create a wurm thread stating all the details and ask if there's any mapfags around who will try their hands at making map(s) for the server that match what you've decided on earlier.
There will be anons who will bitch, whine, piss, and scream on every single decision the host has made. Ignore them, you get no where quick attempting to appease everyone.
6e2ccc No.15355330
i just want to play as a nigger picking cotton all day
96770f No.15355350
>>15355330
>implying moores are allowed in our ethnoserb in any capacity
30db16 No.15355586
I hope that dumb bitch in OP's image likes 3rd degree burns on her leg.
da94d2 No.15355619
>>15355586
she's so bad-ass she doesn't even need fitting shirt
032fe4 No.15355725
So are we playing or not?
96770f No.15355736
945d34 No.15355748
>>15355586
Her feet seem to have already been amputated. Actually I'm noticing a distinct lack of feet anywhere.
624752 No.15362536
It's just not fun once you're familiar with the game and realize how little depth there is.