/v/ - Video Games

>>15302442

Steam saves PC gaming again

You mean Wine?

>>15302478

Nigger*

>being smug about this

You’re not bright. Like most Linuxfags, I see.

daily valve shill

>>15302478

Say that to the 10000 casual distributions.

>>15302478

>the last thing I want to do is actually play games

Ftfy

>>15302442

>>Valve appears to be working on a set of "compatibility tools," called Steam Play, that would allow at least some Windows-based titles to run on Linux-based SteamOS systems.

This sounds like it's only for their distro.

>valve

>working

>>15302442

I bet it will be shitty port of "crossover" or "play on linux"

>>15302442

>Valve seems to be working on tools to get Windows games run on Linux

noice, I mean they'll probably fail, but I'd try

>>15302478

>I don't want free software to catch on with the masses because muh elitism

>wtf why is the world so bad??

>>15302478

This is why Linux has no games.

Wow, Valve's doing something actually good for once. It'll probably just be a shitty cross-play service, but if this is what it sounds like, then holy shit.

>>15302661

Whoever made this deserves pain

>valve

>working on anything

good joke, I chuckled

>>15302689

I remember her,i don't remember her deserving this kind of disgusting filth fan art

>>15302695

They are working hard on expanding the snack bar and enforcing a weight minimum for new employees.

That much you can be sure of.

>>15302719

>valve hates on Microsoft for forcing things both at OS level and in deals

>valve proceeds to do the same

There are no good companies.

>>15302442

This is good news, Anon.

>>15302736

>being communist

>>15302756

Valve's entire organization is communist

Look up anything from Rich Geldreich, he was the fag behind the initial big Linux push and development from Valve 6 or 7 years ago and him being gone and the place being cancer is the reason OpenGL and other shit is disastrously far behind where it should've been by now

>>15302719

Are the demonic characters on the poster sapping the trafficking safeness of nearby adults to transfer it to children? Is that why a man walking by got hit by a car?

>>15302736

considering their office is right next to microsoft i expect theyre either getting some money or gonna get some serious slaps

no way microsoft and them havent been in talks, walk 50ft from valve youre at microsoft, congrats

>>15302760

There's no debate that Valve is shit. This:

>There are no good companies.

Is the communism. "No good companies" is a meme.

>>15302761

Maybe.

>>15302764

You're right.

>>15302478

It's too late.

ubuntu, manjaro, opensuse, linux mint already exist.

>>15302661

GoG already does that faggot.

They've been packaging winewraped games sense fucking forever.

>>15302795

This is news to me, got links/proof?

>>15302511

Of course they would. They are a fucking business, you expect them to do this for free?

>>15302764

There are no good companies, corporate shill.

Being Valve they'll likely add some inane feature.

>>15302815

t. Huenigger

>>15302815

>herr durr werkers of za worudo UNITE lmao!

>>15302908

>10_luck.png

>>15302920

Some say he's still sitting there.

>>15302508

"Oops, we accidentally removed your entire root directory." - Valve

>>15302816

Valve used to be good, but after Portal 2 they just stopped caring. Either that or they became such perfectionists they were afraid to release ANYTHING, instead just sticking with what worked: Steam and updating games that already had fanbases.

They no longer take risks, that's why they mostly do hardware. And by "They do hardware," I mean "They make tech demos for hardware they've invested in and have little to nothing to do with"

Who gives a fuck? It'll only work for games you own on Steam, and you might as well be using Windows in that case.

>>15302477

this, steam is just going to bundle an ancient version of wine now along with the ancient versions of the linux libraries it already ships for linux native games.

>>15302795

i'd also like some proofs on this.

i was considering buying X3 TC/AP on GoG because it's supposed to come with the linux native client (there is a linux native client), but I'm going to be fucking pissed if what I get instead is the windows version with some kind of prepackaged wine bullshit.

>>15302785

I wish there was a decent compromise between usability and fuction for Linux.

Either you go with something like Tails that is absolutely not viable as a main OS or you use garbage like Ubuntu.

>having any proprietary software on your pc

disguisting

>>15303044

>commie

>ancap

you don't have to choose, slutty burger conformist

>>15302702

Need a r34 pic of how exactly she's "DRM free"

>>15302961

They are way too ambitious with their games, and then they fell for the marketing and the VR meme. Plus their inner structure is a fucking mess at the moment. They only reason they didn't implode was because of Steam.

>>15302661

They already sell DosBox-wrapped games so this isn't much different

>>15302764

>>15302756

I meant no reference to communism.

I want to stress how we used to kind of like these guys before, yet now they are worse than ever.

>>15303089

Has there ever been a time where a TORpedo made a post that wasn’t fucking garbage?

About fucking time. Running two versions of Steam just to play a few games in Wine is retarded.

>>15303019

>Now that I, Evil Corporation, have arisen to the top of my own market field, no one will be safe from my reign of terror! You, consumerling, tremble in despair and GIVE ME YOUR MONEY

>no

>wait, you can do that?

>yep

>but… then I won't give you my services! mwahahahaha!

>yeah, figures, still not givin you my money though

>what? you can do this… wait… ummm… what if I ask nicely?

>too late, I'd rather use a fringe service from a smaller company now

>I need to be subsidised. GUBMENT, HEEEEELP

Remember that time [company] forced you to buy from them? No? Me neither

Remember that time you could send a letter to the IRS saying you didn't quite wanted to support [government program X], so you'd refrain from paying X% of your taxes? No? Me neither

>>15302661

>abandonware

It's not abandonware if there is still a publisher running around suing people for distributing it without their permission.

>>15302816

>Valve News Network

Sounds reasonable, it's not like there is much to talk about when it comes to Valve in recent years, other then how something that has absolutely nothing to do with HL3 could totally mean that HL3 is confirmed.

>>15303584

No. But 80% of posts here are complete garbage anyway, Torpedo or not. Not even gonna bother to reply to them

>>15303614

Who do you think pays the most taxes?

just who pays all the lobbyists?

who funds most politicians campaigns through party donations?

That's right, it's corporations. What is the difference between the corporation and the government?

The government owns you, and the corporations own the government.

>>15303614

Ever heard of Com-Ed faggot? How about Exelon Corporation? Good luck doing anything without electricity, you absolute fucking retard

You also neglect to mention that many of these companies while growing bigger and to the top of their market field, kill off and consume most, if not all alternatives or at least render them irrelevant and so vastly inferior at providing services that its better to not use them

Do you not remember what had happened to this site? How Hotwheels was kicked off every major platform, including fucking gratipay? you can't even use fucking fringe shit in a monopoly, you're just straight fucked

How about when you can't use cloudflare or their alternatives (because even when it isn't a monopoly its still an incestuous oligopoly) and the site gets ddosed?

If games can't release in the digital PC marketplace outside of Steam without severely limiting their success to the point of being overwhelmingly crippling, Steam has too much power and control of the market

Sure you can release on your own website or fringe platform, good luck wasting your life getting people to use that shit while you lose all your money and time that you wasted developing a game to have nobody buy it or even know it exists because you didn't use Steam

Services like Steam only grow more and more powerful with network effects working in their favor, look that shit up

This will only get worse with time, honestly

It'll probably be some fork of Wine with some proprietary addons by Valve for maximum compatibility.

>>15303781

Not to mention even the civil law system is carried by money and corporations have the most of that.

Even if their case is bullshit they can afford to drown anyone who becomes inconvenient in frivolous law suits and there is nothing, absolutely nothing to protect you from the insanity of a nonexistent fictional entity with endless resources mounting a legal case against you an actual living individual who has to eat to survive.

>>15304313

>valve didn't used to be good

We're reaching peak contrarian

And for the record, Yes, the steam controller being able to be used on games that aren't on steam is a MISTAKE, that they just rolled with.

>>15304313

>an opinion this edgy, or a glow in the dark trying to fit in

>le crudely drawn maymay

>>>/cuckchan/ you triple nigger sack of shit.

>>15302761

That's the mystery. Try reading some of his manga. You will not understand a lot, but you will understand why the characters are afraid.

>>15302992

You could just install gentoo

I've got a better idea…

MAKE A REAL FUCKING LINUX PORT YOU LAZY SLOBS, MONO IS NOT A FUCKING LINUX PORT

>>15302657

>steam

>free software

>>15306737

Planescape had the same deal before it got axed in favor of the Beampoz version.

>>15302657

the masses don't even use computers, they use phones

keep your niggers out of my free software

>>15302785

>>15302478

Nigger, what the fuck are you on about? Do you want Linux to be Gentoo and Arch levels retarded? No normalfag will be bothered to install their OS and if they did, there's no way you can dumb down an OS. This is fucking elitism at it's finest.

>>15307268

computing was better in the dos days when normalfags needed a base level of knowledge just to operate a computer

>>15307285

I can't argue that because I don't know anything about dos but why do you say that? Normalfags will NEVER bother installing packages through a terminal. If anything that's wrong today is the easy access smartphones have given them use to the internet, that's the fucked up part with modern computing.

>>15307306

not even just dos, but computing in general from the 80s/90s.

first of all they were relatively expensive, so you had to be somewhat serious about buying a computer, you had to get good use of it. nowadays it's just treated very materialistic, either just a fashion item (gaymen pcs) or because you "have to".

2ndly, you had to learn. That's it. You had to learn to use a computer, learning means you have the capability to learn.

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>>15307321

Understood, I can't argue with that, all sound points.

As good as this sound it's just going to be some form of WINE implementation, so yeah same stuff

>>15302511

It's built specifically for steam, so people can play steam games. It's in the name

>>15307317

>Has Valve actually done anything worthwhile the last 10 years?

Valve has a quasi-monopoly on PC gaming since they are the one universal DRM normalfags tolerate. There is no need for Valve to even be trying anymore.

If the stories from ex-emplyees are to be believed, Valve has no hierarchies, rather the company is made up of small sub-companies where everyone is equal, so they keep bickering among each other and don't get anything done.

>>15307561

Basically this. Valve desks have wheels, and if they really are interested in a project, they wheel their desk over and "work" on it, which I'm sure works out well. The only semi-confirmed rumors, aside for all the directory leaks which are so numerous as to be meaningless, was that there was a big falling out between staff of a Left 4 Dead 3, as half wanted to work in Source/Source 2 and the other half wanted to work in Unreal, and that shelved the project "for a while".

>>15307561

They announced they were making games again. Turns out to be VR stuff and a card game nobody asked for.

>>15307722

Nice digits.

To be fair, how much can you really do with a series like Half Life when the lead writer quits, and publishes his original intended finale for what HL2 Ep3 was supposed to be. Even then, he wanted to wrap it up and let other people handle HL3, but even he gave up hope of Valve ever bothering to finish.

>>15303781

>Good luck doing anything without electricity

<GOVERNMENT FUNDED monopolies are corporations now

I'm sorry you're too retarded to tell the difference from a private company and a company run by the fucking government.

>>15302478

>Linux is the last defense against normalfag gamers.

Where have you been for the last ten years or so?

>>15303756

>government can force you to use a company's services

>it can stop other companies from geting into the market

>companies can't do any of those by themselfes

granted, companies who buy into a lobby are just as much at fault, but it's not them who hold the power to opress you. It's the fucking government. If lobbies annoy you, you should want the government to have LESS power over the market, not more.

>>15303781

See above, fag. No company can force you to buy it's services. The government can.

>you can't even use fucking fringe shit in a monopoly, you're just straight fucked

in an actual monopoly, you can't, because the fucking government stops other competitors from arising, like in the examples you posted yourself, dumbass

>and the site gets ddosed?

>but what if [bad thing] happens?

because [bad thing] can't happen to government programs, right? not only do they do, but EVERYONE pays the price, unlike when something bad happens to a company

>Sure you can release on your own website or fringe platform

Yes, thank you for proving my point. When your beloved government owns/controls it, then you CAN'T EVEN TRY

This is how you spot the fabian socialist who never had to engage in anything market related.

>>15302991

>Requires following packages: libc6:i386, libasound2:i386, libasound2-data:i386, libasound2-plugins:i386, libgtk2.0-0:i386, libxml2:i386

It's different than warning for wine so I presume it's native

Sounds like a combination of database for community-reported workarounds similar to the wine appdb and automated installation for those workarounds once verified. It's not a bad step to take, since Valve obviously is neither going to commit man-hours to testing configuration for thousands upon thousands of games, nor establish bounties for native Linux ports. Next best thing is getting the community to figure it out, and just put up a framework to sort, verify, and automate their findings.

The future is going to look fucking weird if Linux and OSX become the sole platforms for Steam and other companies' respective launchers stay on Windows.

>>15307780

>company ran by the fucking government

They aren't "ran by the government", they're given help and large chunks of money by the government, they're like any other large corporation in that regard

They also didn't really have any (meaningful) government help until they became big and powerful enough to absorb their smaller competitors, unless you count the indirect legislative help over the years that they got from passing money to them under the table

Exelon corp is publicly traded and has its board of directors and CEO just like any other corporation

>>15307909

See above fag :^)

I can't tell if you're actually this obtuse or just retarded, some fucking form of regulation does not mean I want the government to have a mandated program or mandated control or anything like that

>Yes, thank you for proving my point. When your beloved government owns/controls it, then you CAN'T EVEN TRY

Yes, I forgot wanting regulation of a market when bad actors use unethical practices to grow, gain power and destroy competition, then once they've seized a vast majority of power take grossly anti-consumer behavior makes me a socialist

The government doesn't "own" or "control" these companies, they're involved and bankroll them because money goes both ways. Once the government controls or owns it, that's already the final fucking stage you fucking retard, and the reason it would've gotten to that level to begin with was because the company/corporation in question had to grow, bankroll the government over time, destroy/absorb competitors using unethical practices combined with snowballing resources, etc.

Competitors don't spring up because of a combination of these companies absorbing and crushing them, having already seized all the fucking power combined with government aid because of their sheer size, power and money

>It's the fucking government. If lobbies annoy you, you should want the government to have LESS power over the market, not more.

Yes, anarchy is the solution here. Let corporations have more power than the government, that's a good fucking idea.

I would personally love a constitution written by Facebook, personally.

You act like corporations are fucking people and the government is the single-handed oppressor of them when they both work together in tandem once the former either grows big enough, slips them enough money under the table, or both (sometimes using the latter to achieve the former, then snowballing once they achieve monopoly)

Corporations do not represent people any better than the government does, and monopolies don't only exist because the government wills it, the corporation has to grow to that extent to begin with

All I would want out of the government is laws to ensure a more competitive market to hold corporations and companies accountable

You seem to want no government power at all over anything (that's the only thing I can assume with these disingenuous, incredibly gross overreaching statements intended to be made on my behalf), in which case good luck expecting anyone else to uphold any rights that you have as a person you incredible fucking retard, you would get raped in the ass by any large enough group who disliked you enough

Tell me, are you also one of those libertarian retards who believes in the "muh day of the rope for both leftists and right wingers xD"? You seem like the kind of obtuse retard who would fit in quite well on >>>/liberty/

>>15302478

LOOK AT ME GUYS! I'M THE GATEKEEPER OF USERS THAT USE LINUX! NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT MILLIONS ALREADY USE IT!!!

>>15302511

What if people crack it or reverse engineer it?

>>15302478

>gatekeeping a fucking operating system because buzzword

People like you make this board shit

>all those microsoft shills getting apeshit

>>15303756

No its the fucking JEWS

>>15302816

>>15303654

Didn't he spend an hour discussing a 3x3 pixel image that might have resembled a 3?

place your bets

they're doing this because:

a.) they want to merge your linux computer with the botnet

b.) they're planning to make a steam console for real this time

c.) they need an excuse not to make half-life 3

d.) all of the above

e.) ____

>>15309962

D. A & B are the same, and even if they aren't doing it purposefully deep down they're doing C.

>>15302478

look at how many cuckchanners this post triggered kek

>>15302736

>>15302719

youre both fucking retarded. "automatically installs" just means it comes with steam ootb for linux and mac os or installs it when you try to install a windows only game

>>15302442

>inb4 the whole project collapses into development hell like everything else valve tries to do because some bitter autist doesn't want someone else to get a bonus

>>15312346

This pretty much. Not to mention there's only so much they can achieve, just because they have money doesn't mean they can magically overcome hardware and software limitations

>>15312300

>>15302478

This is why no one can take linuxfags seriously. They bitch about kids and redditors triggering them in computer games and ignore the fact their community is run and infested with trannies and commies.

>>15312420

That's what trannies and commies do though, they infect everything we view as fun. I also find it hilarious that you think Microsoft and Apple aren't also ran by trannies and commies, at least ALL of the Linux distro communities aren't infected with the filth.

>>15307317

SteamVR is getting quite a few updates, rather religiously. It's too bad that literally any game that is even remotely realistic and has even an ounce of tension scars the shit out of me in VR.

porn is predy gud, though

>>15302442

Nice but unlikely.

>>15312300

>the PC Master Race meme became a thing.

Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw has a lot to answer for. He should have gone with "PC dick slurp all-stars."

But will Valve finish it at the end? Thats what matters, and Valve is too lazy to finish anything that isnt Steam; I mean, they abandoned SteamOS just after release, regardless of success.

I just want to have functional alternatives to Microsoft almost total monopoly in OS with Windows. By this time there should have been nations & corporations that could have made some alternative to it, but it never comes outs. Goddamit.

>>15302981

Jesus christ… Someone trying to use the horror that is Wine for commercial purposes…

Does that mean I can finally get a job?

>>15302477

There is no info what they will use, only referencing "Steam Play" - which is already a thing, but for now it only means that you buy multiplatform version of the game, with all the versions (for mac windows and linux) avaliable.

>>15302442

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9439-QHKN-1308

>>15304556

>by total accident mind you

Are you retarded?

The reason it work because it launched trough steam. I think it's works the same way as the overlay which i think works by connecting steam dll to the game at the launch.

They just didn't disabled it for non steam games in library because why even do it?

>>15309889

>hour

IT WAS 3 FUCKING MINUTES from the whole podcast. Or 6 minutes.

>>15302704

Sadly the snack bar is gone. On one of recent videos (don't remember which) it can be seen that they switched to healthy food.

RIP BIG PINK COOKIE

>>15307722

>Turns out to be VR stuff and a card game

Public knew about them BEFORE Valve updated site with "We make games" and etc.

But seems like "In the Valley of Gods" by Campo Santo is a part of the "we make games again" which at least is funny.

>>15308185

This would be interesting, there is also some string about it being optional (if i'm not mistaken) which does hint to community-patches.

>>15326833

I don't think you understand, it working (As in having and being able to save configurations on a game by game basis) with nonsteam games, (When it was in beta) was (and if we're going on the same logic of 150 damage tank punches to survivors being ridden by jockeys, still is) technically a bug. You're not actually supposed to be able to use the controller with games off steam. They just decided to call it a feature when it went out of beta.

>>15302945

It wouldn't be the first time - Half-Life's uninstaller (I don't know if it applies to all versions or only certain ones) would delete the entire upper folder, i.e. Program Files, Games or wherever you installed it. Had that shit in the early 00's, dodged a bullet because my Games directory only had a few games.

>>15302945

>>15327116

I was referring to this incident

https://github.com/valvesoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671

>>15327388

I work with the command line every day but I'll always prefer something with a gui instead. That, and Linux has always been far more obtuse than it should be for simple things. The simplest thing, that I can't just take a program specifically made for "Linux" and run it, is what kills it. At best, you need to run a popular shitty distro and maybe you'll get lucky and it'll have a build. Most likely, you'll have to build your own from the source, but oh shit, there is no source, looks like you're going to have to use a borderline-useless, /tech/-approved alternative.

>>15327442

Nigger, what the fuck are you talking about? Ubuntu is easier to install and run than Windows 10. And Flatpak/Snap are making installing and running 3rd party apps brain-dead simple.

>>15327496

While I agree we've gotten a little to welcoming of newfags here, Linux isn't an imageboard. As bad as Windows 10 has gotten, we'll NEED a life raft sooner or later, and Linux is the only material there is to build one from.

>>15327542

The Linux community?

>>15327442

>I'm tech illiterate

You could just cut the shit and say it.

>>15302478

This. The replies alone are enough proof.

>>15327582

He is confusing the open source community with Linux the operating system.

>>15327592

Desktop Linux is more standardized than it has ever been. The few differences that there are do not matter to 3rd part application distribution either.

>>15327589

Nice straw man.

>>15327601

If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>15327496

They're the same people that white about reddit , 4chan, or newfags "invading", when they should be welcoming them and helping them coexist with us. The kikes want us to build borders around other internet users, we need to build bridges instead.

>>15327687

So which one is it: do (((they))) want us to accept the immigrants or build walls?

>>15302478

They already started that with SystemD and Gnome 3 6 years ago..

>>15327687

made me chuckle

>>15327088

Did they even assumed it as a bug, and not the feature?

>>15327725

Why it's "or"?

Isn't it just "start infighting inside a group and then conquer them"?

>>15327637

Linux is just a sub-species of UNIX-like OSes. And not all of the communities built around it cooperate. Hell, some are basically at war.

>>15303019

Actually, it's still the government, because those are predominantly government enabled trusts and monopolies.

>>15328318

It was posted as a bug in error reporting for people who were part of the beta.

Also

>ITT: People that can't comprehend there being more than 2 political ideologies

>>15328648

Flatpak has nothing to do with pottering and doesn't even need systemd to work, unlike Snap.

And I have nothing against Appimage, but it lends itself better to testing than general application distribution.

>>15328665

>Flatpak has nothing to do with pottering and doesn't even need systemd to work, unlike Snap.

Yes, but it does come from RedHat.

>And I have nothing against Appimage, but it lends itself better to testing than general application distribution.

I use appimages every day, even ones for complex powerhouse ones like Krita. I never have any problems.

>>15328648

>>15328665

>>15328702

AppImages are the poor man's statically linked binaries.

>>15328899

>AppImages are the poor man's statically linked binaries.

Static linking can sometimes violate the GPL or other licenses when they are mixed together. Appimages allow them to be dynamically linked and distributed easily.

buy directx you fat slob. cut out the (((middle man))). then we talk about linux.

>>15329857

DirectX has literally no reason to exist now that Vulkan is a thing.

>>15329896

This is why nobody's using DirectX12.

>>15332439

Strange that id soesn't use it, like they release their games on xbox one which does use dx12. Why not port support for it into pc release? Or maybe they use Vulkan on xbox one?

>>15332988

>Strange that id soesn't use it, like they release their games on xbox one which does use dx12. Why not port support for it into pc release? Or maybe they use Vulkan on xbox one?

You don't have to use DX12 if you're making an Xbox One game.

>>15302546

SteamOS is just Debian with outdated software and proprietary drivers in the repos. It will work in all distros via Steam Runtime, more than probably.

>>15327388

GUI's are always better because you don't need to use both hands, you could do something else while clicking.

Accessibility is only bad when efficiency suffers.

>>15307321

>first of all they were relatively expensive

Commodore 64 sold for as little as $200 barely a year after initial release. Even accounting for inflation that's hardly "expensive".

>>15327687

nice autocorrect, bro

what are you rocking, an iPhone™? ;)

>>15333864

>You don't have to use DX12.

Sure, yes. But not with id, because they switched to low level APIs only, at least on PC. And the only low level api on Xbox one should be dx12, if there isn't another one on it.

>>15327687

no, kikes hate people other than them enforcing borders. they want to flood the both chans with normalfags to ruin the culture. thats why they namedrop it and epic movies such as pixels mentions it

>>15335736

Native ports cost money; a LOT of money. Wrapper ports are usually MUCH cheaper in comparison. This lowers the bar SUBSTANTIALLY for games getting Linux support. And DXVK means you only lose about 12% of your FPS if it's done right.

>>15333864

>>15332988

>>15335422

I would guess they are using a wrapper to convert OpenGL or Vulkan to DX11 (Xbox One hardware pre-dates DX12 but I guess it's possible MS could have backported it or some of it with software updates). That would probably be the easiest solution.

>>15335824

They're using DXVK and VKD3D, which, it turns out, they were behind this whole time.

https://youtu.be/sSEawuTpJKI

>>15335890

They kinda have to because

A) DXVK is C++

B) They make other changes that cant be added to upstream Wine.

>>15335824

Microsoft did announsed long time ago that xbox one will use dx12, and also there is amd card in it. and you know that amd cards supported dx12/vulkan because they supported mantle by amd.

>>15335850

Maybe vk to dx12? We are about id tech and it's lack of dx12 on pc and what does it use on xbox one.

>>15335890

MS will NEVER let Valve use native D3D. BUT Valve did help make DXVK, which gets damn close to native:

https://youtu.be/sSEawuTpJKI

>>15335914

Yeah but usually you have to drop a big fat asterisk next to such claims. My old R9 280X is a 1st Gen GCN part and it doesn't do DX12, only DX11. It works with Mantle and Vulkan though.

>>15335952

It doesn't? I googled and looks like it does support dx12. Maybe it doesn't support some thing in it (Like that nvidia only feature the snitched into dx12 api).

>>15336004

DX12 and Vulkan are still practically twin APIs, so a translation layer would be much easier to make for them than, say, DX11>OpenGL.

>>15335890

>they could just directly contribute to the project

Have you seen the autism fits when people try to contribute to wine? Have you seen the shoddy broken shit "trusted" contributors push through without any review? Forking is the right move. Valve have their source on github, wine can benefit from their work if they pull their heads out of their asses.

>>15302442

>implying gaben gives a fuck about steamos anymore

They just launched a fucking twitch clone as if the cancer wasn't already bad enough

Valve realeases port of wine that will run native windows games in steam client https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561

>>15336661

Valve officially owns the linux gaming market. This is not a good thing longterm when things like GOG exist.

>As a result of this work, today we are releasing the Beta of a new and improved version of Steam Play to all Linux users!

guess it's time to test this shit out

>>15336776

Yeah yeah, and opengl directx and vulkan with metal is all the same things with identical syntax and etc.

>>15336776

And isn't true even for apps that don't use graphics api in them. There is still winforms and analogue for MacOS.

>>15334940

<devuan

>falling for the systemdicks meme

>>15336930

You're not even allowed to run Steam as root.

>>15336612

Valve is still hiring Linux devs to work on the low-level plumbing. Gaben knows all he's done with Steam and Linux so far is kick the can down the road where Windows becomes a hostile environment to 3rd party stores. He's going to need a life boat sooner or later regardless.

>>15337023

Reminds me of Chrome's logo

Did you know that the Chrome logo is 666?

Or tha tthe Google Play Store logo is a mark of satan?

>>15335649

This could potentially mean a possible port to Windows so that you wouldn't have to install Windows 10 to be able to play DX12 games.

There are already some efforts put into porting Wine to Windows.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160115055656/http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOnWindows

>>15337972

Which version of denuvo do they use?

>>15338013

Both use version 4 it looks like.

Is loonix even supposed to be "hard" to use or is it just because I installed mint?

It's literally just a command line replacing graphical interfaces and a bit more involvement when installing something, what's so fucking difficult about that?

>>15337972

A specific title not working doesn't mean all Denuvo titles won't work. Wine could definitely be worked on to make Denuvo work.

>>15338057

Mint does include a little bit more handholding than other distros, but when people say "hard" they usually mean "turned off by". It's like when you see a smart biologist being absolutely terrified of doing anything involving touching a computer since he's just used to watching plants. Some peoples' brains just turn off when they got to do certain things.

>>15338082

And Dawn of War 3? Another title where Denuvo on Linux was an issue? Both times, Denuvo was fairly clear, no Denuvo on Linux.

Now suddenly, it's no problem, works fine. That doesn't fucking make sense.

>>15338105

Automata seems to work fine with Denuvo

>>15338057

Try installing systemd-free systems. It takes not that much more to get them to work, you probably will just need to download a lot of things in the beginning like gcc, python libraries, and stuff but in the end you will have a better system for it.

>>15338222

I genuinely want to make the switch, I just fear for my vidya. Using Mint I really have nothing else keeping me to Windows besides vidya.

>>15338057

>Is loonix even supposed to be "hard"

depends on what you're doing and what's already been done and provided to you

>a bit more involvement when installing something

this can be either typing one command, compiling everything from source, or (the worst if you ask me) trying to figure out why shit doesn't work event though it should. this last thing takes the most involvement.

>>15338105

Every public statement issued by Denuvo is made by a professional liar.

>>15338188

You sure that's not a cracked version?

>>15338868

Automata runs on Proton through Steam and through Lutris (which uses Steam).

>>15339877 (checked)

Exactly what we needed: a compatibility layer for cancer

What's the point of adopting Linux, when none of the core philosophy of freedom software and FOSS get accepted? There's no reason to celebrate this as long as game software stays closed source. Valve are helping gaymers by killing Linux. Only an idiot would think this is good.

>>15340077

>valve is trying to force and eternal September onto the Linux community

At least I truly see.

BASED STEAM

>>15340077

Do you seriously think FLOSS will stop being an option because of a wine fork? This will not stop people who are so behind the free and libre concept that they refuse to use patched intel systems because the patch is closed source

>>15340077

>WINE development goes into overdrive, dx12>vulkan translation now giving native performance

<This is amazing, FOSS is unstoppable!

>It is revealed that a big corp is behind it

<OMG, they are killing Linux!

every major linux advancement was made by a corporation

lets that sink in fellas

>>15338057

GNU/Linux is fucking easy. You'd have to be a nigger to think it's hard (unless you're using that piece of shit apt as your package manager, and in your case you are.)

Why not just make Steam OS instead of wasting time with Linux?

>>15340077

Luckily, there are FOSS alternatives to your favorite titles. Such as Super Tux Kart, and Free Doom, among the other four you can grab from your user repo today!

>>15344016

Reread your sentence.

>>15338868

Absolutely. Plus, cracks don't remove Denuvo. They just work around it.

>>15343990

You'd have to be a nigger to think apt is hard, actually.

>>15335890

Re-read Valve's post.

>>15344023

>Plus, cracks don't remove Denuvo. They just work around it.

A you sure about that? I know there was recent breakthrough with consistent workaround for denuvo, but didn't earlier cracks just removed it?

>>15344038

>I'm white, the only package manager I need is git

Is all your software statically linked like God intended too?

>>15302657

It's not elitism. It's keeping faggots and cancer away. They don't make the slightest effort to adapt or learn and start demanding that everyone start catering to them and make everything like their shitty phone 'apps', and ruining things for everyone in general.

>crappy bloated, automated, unconfigurable, unscriptable GUI-only programs (bonus points if program depends on electron or chromium embedded framework)

>insecure auto-updating one-click install 'apps' which download over http from random repositories a la node (javascript cancer)

>(((cloud))) services and 'sync'

>overbloated, animated crap and useless eyecandy that hogs resources

>limited, rigid design and settings appealing to lowest common denominator that remove choice and functionality for the sake of 'user-friendliness' while alienating established audience

This is the kind of cancer that normalfaggotry brings. They deserve gas, not hospitality.

Also steam is DRM cancer which shouldn't be used by anyone. Enjoy not owning your games.

>>15344236

>No idea why

Valve is building a lifeboat for themselves. It just so happens that it happens to be made out of Linux, Wine and Vulkan. The fact that their contributions are improving these for everyone else too is a side-benefit as far as they're concerned.

>>15344038

>There's no excuse for a million fucking broken dependencies for no reason.

>debianshit

I had no idea that Debian used rpm.

>>15344701

And it's NEVER a bad idea to have a contingency plan.

>>15344734

Microsoft is a shit company to deal with. There's a few angles from which the linux/wine/vulkan lifeboat is a great decision.

The first one is overall compatibility. Steam might even end up developing wine variants for Windows in order to allow older games to keep running on Windows 10.

The second one is the fact that Windows 10 is a service, not a product. And that service is most likely gonna be ridden with ads and an app store sooner or later. That means Microsoft might compete with Valve, and when the forced Windows 10 updates are already breaking shit left and right, it would be a (((pure coincidence))) if Steam might end up breaking due to an update.

The third one is that Microsoft has a history of deliberately stifling development to sell their shit. We already have D3D10 being exclusive to Windows Vista and up, and D3D11 being exclusive to Windows 7 and up. Whilst Microsoft gladly wants to keep all new graffics developments exclusive to the newest version of Windows, Valve wants to sell games to as many users as possible, even those not having the newest Windows OS. Valve has already developed tools for this in the past. D3D12 to Vulkan is just the newest iteration of it.

Additionally, more people moving to an open source OS would be an improvement for society as a whole. But that's less of a "lifeboat for themselves" and more of a "lifeboat for everyone".

>>15344794

Running away from Microcock is going to be difficult.

Who would have thought that Valve would end up being useful.

Thanks.

>>15344794

Devs moving away from DX and to Vulkan alone would take away a lot of the undo power MS has over PC gaming.

>>15344941

Wish Valve already finished and released their Source 2 with VK support.

At least Unity and UE4 do support VK or want to support it. Don't really know recent state on it.

>>15344997

Personally, I'd rather see more people using Godot once it gets Vulkan support. There used to be a tradition that you'd release the source code to your game after a decade or two.

But since everyone is using 3rd-party proprietary engines, that is no longer possible. Godot would allow you to do that if you wanted though, since it's MIT-cuck licensed.

https://youtu.be/btazdd8jNEc

>>15345010

Whatever, it's just that "open" engines (or how to name when you can easily use engine) adapt Vulkan API as an option. Which will increase it's popularity. And also i'm a Valve fanboy.

wine is free

>>15347544

Games are not

>>15347544

Your post triggers me. Like, what do you point out? Proton isn't sold separately, and it's source code is on github (WHICH IS OWNED MY M$ GUYS YOU FORGOT THIS) and steam account is free to create (they added paywall for community stuff and etc. but not playing games).

>>15347544

Wine can't even run games made for windows 95 like Baldies.

>>15345060

But Warband natively supports Linux.

>>15344997

Did they ever get around to pushing the updated OpenGL to their windows source games?

>>15347738

I think so, but old source mods like Zombie Panic don't support Linux. Wine breaks it to, the text is missing and randoms hit happens.

>>15347745

It still boggles the fucking mind, with early access to the Vulkan library dragged their feet with it, and still has most of source running on DX10.

>>15344639

You're forgetting Windows 10 is the normalfag default. It's well worth it if Microshit loses market share, and is sowing good seeds in general.

It's free software. Massive variety, endlessly forkable, decentralized, you can always use what you want. People can't ruin shit for you. Plus a large pump of Linux focus and compatibility because of the expanded audience.

>>15347763

All the talent in valve left years ago. It's all trustfunds kids from game design school now.

>>15347734

Natively? Last I remember it was broken under Linux regarding multiplayer through Wine or whatever. It's been quite a while since I last checked though.

see I realize that windows is shit and the newer the version of it the worse, but isn't all modern hardware only compatible with (((W10)))? leaving you with no other choice but to use W10 if you want to play relatively new video games?

>>15348750

Yea it is. That's probably the biggest fuck you of it all. It's basically the Motherboard/CPU vendor (((deal))) where every time they come out with a new CPU you need to get a new motherboard because the socket is different, but 10x worse. Luckily you can download a patch online to have Windows updates ignore the fact you don't have (((Winblows 10))) with your newest (((Israel Inside™))) CPU. I don't believe AMD CPUs have the same issue.

>>15348770

I wonder how fucked ARM is at this point. I recall there being talk about it being the architecture that has room for advancement yet.

>>15348770

Or you could just buy the computer with windows 10 on it and delete it, followed by installing gentoo.

>>15348791

ARM still has a sizable cult following. There are CPU companies that still make them and they're decently powerful, the only reason they faded into relative obscurity is because the big 2 were scared and went into overdrive to strong arm it out of the market when it started to get too big.

>>15348814

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>>15348814

They should be scared, they have the market on just about anything portable. Reading up, it seems it's possible to recompile with Winelib for the architecture even.

>>15348820

Qualcomm, which has a better bottom line than intel. Pretty much anyone that makes their own mainboards has dabbled in the CPU market.

>>15334940

NOOOOOOOOO

SYSTEMD IS JEWS

I have an idea for a horrible cursed future

games you want to play go directx 12 only and you have to run something like this to play them on windows 7 through vulkan

>>15348847

What's so cursed about that?

>>15348834

Interesting.

I thought the whole market was just those two.

>>15348861

Qualcomm is mainly phones, but they've begun to dip their toes into the computer market.

>>15343822

>expecting anything else from a freetard

>>15302678

>>15302702

Fucking normalfags like you is why this board is shit.

>>15348847

It's a good thing if something like that could be done for older windows titles. Like some said New Vegas only works on XP

>>15348952

More like SteamOS.

>>15348952

Partially. Main focus of Steam Machines and SteamOS was to make PC optimized for games. As for SteamOS i think they tried to achieve low latency in software and etc in games.

Valve already tried to improve net latency before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation#PowerPlay

>>15348952

I could see them attempting to toss off the same ~3 year old builds at less retarded pricing now.

>>15348952

I actually would like this to happen. Would not mind a cheap PC for gaming (then, if it does not turn out to be cheap, whatever, I don't have to buy it).

>>15335649

Lol, that was expected. Let's hope Valve will have enough admin power to make gamedevs make wine-compatible games.

>>15347729

Neither can Win10.