9f2946 No.15277089
Public service announcement that the new Zachtronics game, Exapunks, released a couple hours ago. This was a surprise to me since I believe it was supposed to release in about two weeks, but it's there. As is typical for Zachtronics it's in EA first, so put it on your radar to check out in a few months if you don't want to support that model.
It's yet another coding-based puzzle game, but isn't based in assembly this time, and supposedly doesn't have strict space requirements for your code. I've had the limited edition sitting on my desk for a week now but haven't read too much into the zine to see what it's like mechanically.
929a1d No.15277110
Talking about a newly released game? Not today, marketer-kun.
2176df No.15277130
>>15277089
Hello shill-kun! Zachtronics games are usually good, so I'll give you the extremely rare benefit of a doubt and take a look…
>Only on Steam
It's shit. GoG has early access games so you got less of an excuse.
9f2946 No.15277136
Glancing through the zine it reminds me of God Is A Cube (which still isn't out yet), but GIAC was inspired by Zachtronics anyway. There are small bots which are individually programmed to run certain instruction loops in an isometric field.
06141e No.15277138
>>15277089
come back when you have something to show
b59730 No.15277197
>Zachtronics hacking simulator
>write your own viruses, hack all kinds of systems, read magazines for programming tips and tricks
>take down your friends
YES YES YES YES YES
THIS IS THE GZME I:VE ALWAYS WANTED SINCE UPLINK
THIS BETTER DELIVEEEEEEEEEEEER
9f2946 No.15277206
>>15277197
>hack all kinds of systems
Yeah, supposedly there's a sandbox where you hack a game development toolkit and program your own stereoscopic 3D games, the limited edition came with a pair of 3D glasses for it.
So far it's just tutorializing but it seems like this might be the first Zach game that isn't based around looping instructions, you can destruct each EXA with a "halt" command as soon as it's done what it's supposed to do
d629ea No.15277240
>>15277110
And thus, the prophecy of /v/ having terrible taste continues
137c44 No.15277263
Im glad Zachtronics keeps churning these out, Im also glad people are finally starting to rip them off.
Honestly this weird genre of quasi-programming open puzzle games have a lot of potential
anyone here tried Prime Mover?
9f2946 No.15277290
Ok, with the fourth and final tutorial it's starting to open up and introduce loops and conditionals. Sort of wish the introduction had been as straightforward as TIS-100 but it seems like this has more going on mechanically, enough to justify a tutorial
>>15277263
I haven't, I was going to but I figured Zachtronics would be dropping something new soon. There's also Hardware Engineering, Silicon Zeroes, and one other I can't remember that I know I wanted to check out
8d34e0 No.15277310
>>15277263
I've tried it. Definitely felt some claustrophobia from the level layouts, even with the miniature grid modules.
5618f7 No.15277327
9f2946 No.15277409
>>15277327
You can get a 3D printed version apparently
51ead5 No.15277713
>>15277409
Is that paint job from the 3D printing, or just haphazardly done?
0f050a No.15277757
Thanks OP, I had forgotten about it.
>>15277136
>God Is A Cube
That guy has been taking his sweet time.
c682d0 No.15277923
>>15277136
I remember when the dev of GiaC came to this very board to discuss his game and ask for feedback. Shared an in-development download for the game and everything. Seemed like a cool guy.
How's the game looking these days? I really liked the concept the guy had planned out, though it felt very ambitious.
ba8fc7 No.15277938
>>15277713
Looks like it was just slathered on to me
ba8fc7 No.15277950
>>15277923
He used to post in the agdg's of various boards
9f2946 No.15278367
I've only had the opportunity to play a little so far, but it's good. I remember Zach said he'd figured the difficulty would be on the same level as Opus Magnum since EXAs don't have line limits the way TIS and Shenzhen do, but I don't think that's going to be the case. Opus also had relatively shallow mechanics and very easy puzzles, and Exa seems like it's set up to eventually turn up the difficulty. I'd still predict that the main challenge / enjoyment is going to be optimization, though, some of the histogram scores are already pretty impressive.
>>15277923
Haven't kept up with it for a while but he just updated a month ago, apparently.
0f050a No.15280310
>first character you meet is androgynous and uses 'they' pronoun
>second one is a nigger
Starting to get worried.
137c44 No.15280355
>>15280310
>they pronoun
oh for fucks sake
94b116 No.15280461
>>15280310
>>15280355
What's funny is that i didn't even mind the tumblr goblin and the nigger until pic related
137c44 No.15280519
>>15280461
Im just so tired of this stuff
Hell Im not even /pol/ material and I already lost half of my enthusiasm for this games
9f2946 No.15280556
If anybody finds a way to get the cycle count for TEC Redshift under 3000 let me know, that's the top percentile score at the moment. I don't think you could speed it up by running two EXAs in parallel since the #PASS register can only receive one digit at a time anyway
b59730 No.15280654
>>15280461
It'd be kind of weird for a cyberpunk game to not feature that at this point
b3d74c No.15280659
>>15280519
stop being such a homophobe racist shitlord, its 2018 ffs
4fe650 No.15280681
>>15277089
>one hack, one dose
c8b007 No.15280703
>>15280310
For fuck's sake, I would have thought that Zachtronics games, of all the fucking games in the universe, would be immune to that bullshit. Yet here we are. Fucking christ.
6c2ff3 No.15280712
>>15280461
>they pronoun
>Euclide Pizza
Geddit? Because "they's" pronouns are non-euclidian?
XXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I'm going to murder Zach tonight. I'm going to use a spoon. Then I'm going to skin him and make a fuck doll by stuffing it with printed Kotaku articles. I'm going to hatefuck this shit away from the face the earth until it rots in baked hot decomposing sperm.
Mark my words, Zach.
You're fucking dead.
06141e No.15280733
>>15280519
Remember: you're here forever
4fe650 No.15280752
>>15280519
>not even /pol/ material
Perhaps not yet.
4fe650 No.15280762
>>15280654
That is where you are wrong. If anything, it should be a shithouse of pajeets.
4fe650 No.15280776
>>15280712
Why do you post like this, even in pretend? You're taking no piss, just covering yourself in it.
9f2946 No.15280784
Battle system seems pretty cool, also seems like the sort of thing that's going to be completely ruined by redditors posting "ideal" solutions to every battle arena and other users copypasting them. So far the game reminds me of an expansion to that one puzzle in SpaceChem where you have to program your solution to account for one of three random molecules.
4fe650 No.15280802
>>15280784
How and why are you even paying attention to such faggotry? Anons on baud modems with a stick for a joystick soundly downed them it SkiFree Tribes.
4fe650 No.15280817
This is the same argument as, "I have all these options, so I must cheese," I'm quite certain the faggotry lays upon you, instead of playing video games for the sake of playing video games.
9f2946 No.15280842
>>15280802
>>15280817
Did you have a stroke or did I?
268774 No.15280850
>>15280461
>>15280519
>>15280712
Wow I didn't know you xirs were such heteropatriarchal cisnormative tansphobes.
In the Drumpf era where genderfluid womynx are being lynched on the streets every second, every decent soy-based humyn being has a duty to use tranny pronouns.
4fe650 No.15280875
>>15280842
I am sharp as the day is wrong. I cannot speak to your own medical condition.
611449 No.15283214
>>15280681
<one hack, one dose
>underrated post
480fdb No.15283253
>>15280310
>>15280461
>>15280519
>>15280712
>getting this triggered over fictional characters not being your personal ideal
Are you guys larping /pol/ or tumblr? I can't tell at this point.
80d526 No.15283271
>>15283253
>If I make it seem like both sides are shit maybe they'll get confused and become more open minded to further indoctrination!
… and so we move further down the slippery slope into hell.
b9b317 No.15283275
>>15283253
Not everyone is a cuck nigger lover like you
480fdb No.15283289
>>15283275
>says the cuck nigger
984b6a No.15283360
>>15277136
I remember a similar game from the 00's but as programmer training for kids.
9f2946 No.15283385
>>15283360
That's cool, I've always wanted to play some proto-Zach games. I think there was some programming game on the NES as well but I can't remember what it was called.
adb30d No.15283469
>>15277409
THIN YOUR FUCKING PAINTS
aa665b No.15283497
$20? Geez dude, I don't know… I could do, maybe, $3?
0488dc No.15283500
>>15277938
>>15283469
That isn't paint. That's just the printer going fast as fuck so the resolution on the print is blocky.
705189 No.15283514
>>15283253
I wish political discussion had its own board. Oh wait, it does. Like 3 at least. Why can't commietraps and neo nazi larpers stay in their containment?
382cc3 No.15283644
006311 No.15283917
Infohash here, 41E19EA1DF1B40A470F7417AF9C3F8373EF233D5, bit fucking expensive with this game's 20 dollary-doo price tag, so here's a try before you buy.
80d526 No.15283930
>>15283514
Politics is a fact of life, it's in everything. The sooner you realize that the sooner you can stop getting butthurt about it.
9f2946 No.15283931
>>15283917
Thanks for sharing. It was patched yesterday and again today, so it might be outdated, but what can you do
863d31 No.15283964
>>15283514
We don't make this any more political than game developers already did.
>>15283360
>>15283385
You may mean Colobot, a game where you could program robots with C-like pseudocode. You also could drive robots manually, so that's what probably everyone did.
87efb2 No.15284592
>>15277089
>tumblr gender bullshit
POZ DETECTED
b7797c No.15284806
The REPL command is god tier
137c44 No.15284946
>>15283253
I aint larping anything
Im just pretty fucking jaded
0f0917 No.15284964
>>15283514
I'd like to agree with you but you should direct your complaints towards whoever said "videogames are political dammit" (hint: it wasn't none of the political boards).
Nobody fights until someone wants to, and you better believe they want to. You can keep "being neutral" and continue to turn the other cheek until you die from blunt force trauma. I don't find that appealing in the least, but to each their own.
b75e6f No.15284972
>>15284592
>tumblr
I wish it was just tumblr. Its now inside main psychological teachings.
d37dac No.15285230
>>15283253
>haha I love it when games for children have inserted leftist politics into them
>haha how dare you oppose that
Kill yourself right now.
0f050a No.15285385
>>15283514
>>15283253
>not wanting Tumblr pronouns in programming games is being a nazi LARPer
How about you newfags both eat shit.
68647e No.15286458
>>15284806
>he didn't change his hostname
what a boring faggot
9f2946 No.15286493
>>15284806
I don't think there's actually a limit to how many times you can replicate or how many EXAs can be active on screen at once, besides the number of tiles. In the battle arenas it looks like it's always capped at 10 per player.
>>15286458
I thought Rhizome was a cool name
68647e No.15286574
>>15286493
>I thought Rhizome was a cool name
>it's literally just a plant part
Get some taste. Nerd.
e6020c No.15292047
It's a lot easier than the earlier games. You're given a ton of space for code and with files you have infinite memory you can freely access. The problems might be a little more complex to compensate but without limitations it no longer feels like a puzzle, more like you're just writing code. I only came close to the limit on one level and that was with a really shitty solution that used @rep 8 instead of a loop.
9f2946 No.15292193
>>15292047
Have you finished the game yet?
a3088c No.15293004
>>15283253
Daily reminder that if Samus Aran was introduced today people would screech about muh SJWs
3799c1 No.15293038
>>15286574
I'm convinced DEFCON is just a bunch of hackers on steroids pulling pranks on each other for fun
000000 No.15293086
>>15293004
<I BET U WOULD BE TRIGGERED WITRH ARYAN FEMALE LELELELEL
No. Nice try though, rabbbi Ettinger.
Also coding games are shit for retards. Just like freely download godot, eclipse or whatever and code to your heart content and learn useful shit in the process, dont be a faggot.
dab222 No.15293102
>>15293004
If Samus Aran was introduced today she'd be a male-to-female black genderfluid tranny.
a3088c No.15293112
>>15293086
>heh, stronk female women in vidya is redpilled if they're h'white
>>15293102
It sure is epic obliterating strawmen in nonexistent arguments
dab222 No.15293125
>>15293112
Seriously speaking though, it wouldn't matter if Samus was introduced today since the games aren't about shoving in your face that she's a stronk independant woman.
94081c No.15293129
>>15293004
>Implying
Why? Because she's a competent woman? Only a tiny part of the farthest fringes would complain about that. A tiny part of the farthest fringes complains about everything no matter the era. You'd have exponentially more SJWs complaining that she's attractive and an unrealistic role model, even though her exceptional excellence is given good reason in-universe.
9445e0 No.15293131
>make autistic robot programming game
>add politically relevant human characters and story in it
a3088c No.15293161
>>15293125
>>15293129
If you think Samus wasn't originally portrayed as having massive man proportions you're just wrong
if you think this wouldn't lead to endless shitposting and memes about cultural marxism and soy you're delusional
87a55d No.15293172
>>15293086
>>15293125
Except there have been actual anons getting triggered by the min character in La Mulana 2 because
>hurrrrr playing as a woman fucking SJWs
Despite the fact that La Mulana has just about zero interaction by its main character, and the only thing her being an attractive aryan woman changed from the first game is the fact you can dress her up in a few cute outfits.
a3088c No.15293198
>>15293129
>actually the SJWs would hate Samus even MORE did you even think of that??? A warrior amazon who just kills monsters and lives in a tin can would trigger them so hard
bd98a6 No.15293214
>>15293198
>average guy
>5'6"
70dca0 No.15293229
>>15293214
maybe it was drawn by a mexican
a3088c No.15293230
>>15293214
>america is the world
7ac55d No.15293234
Never understood how samus turned into a perfect ball. how?
ce7bb8 No.15293236
>>15293214
that is average you retard, the taller someone is the more time it takes for their reaction time due to the electrical signals traveling at a certain speed, and any shorter you are malnourished.
ce7bb8 No.15293248
>>15293086
>anyone with blond hair is aryan all of a sudden
aryans are indian and Iranic.
the germans who moved from the middle east to europe were part of the aryan tribe but that doesn't mean all europeans are aryan all of a sudden you retard.
a3088c No.15293250
>>15293240
>the world average height is 5' 6 so you must be 5' 6
d3414c No.15293277
>>15293260
According to this, I should consider suicide.
Yet I'm married and about to buy our first house after renting for a year
Things are looking good.
000000 No.15293295
>>15293277
>married
>Things are looking good
sure pal
bd98a6 No.15293308
>>15293260
>6'6"+
>too tall.
87a55d No.15293311
>>15293281
Out of Africa theory has been disproven multiple times now, you triple kike. Take your own advice.
5d22fb No.15293326
>>15293260
Please delete this image right now
ce7bb8 No.15293339
>>15293337
>Am i fitting in now guis?
97773d No.15293347
>>15277089
>released a couple of hours ago
>it's in early access
Anon why did you lie?
Also the tranny pronoun shit totally sapped my interest.
ce7bb8 No.15293348
>>15293344
>triggered of myself
halp halp
215b71 No.15295731
>game about playing as a dying infected person in a cyberpunk world that has to hack to please an AI so he can live another day
>surprised when the only other characters are the lower dregs of the earth who also are related to hacking
d225d5 No.15297507
>>15280556
You have to hammer the PASS register with 3 EXAs
9f2946 No.15300513
I was a little surprised I didn't get a message after completing the game that I was eligible for the patch, since the game's only been out for five days, but the secret envelope had a patch in it anyway. I wouldn't at all agree that the game's significantly easier than TIS or Shenzhen after finishing that last puzzle, most scores on the last few puzzles were flush all the way to the 150 line limit.
>>15297507
That makes sense, it seems like the cycle optimization game is based around running operations in parallel without having EXAs talk over each other. I'm not sure if I want to go back and optimize immediately or if I want to try making a game, though.
9f2946 No.15300816
They just patched something about all three Tec EXA-Blaster Modem puzzles, by the way. I don't know if this is a universal experience but it broke my solutions.
000000 No.15301064
>>15277089
Fuck off shill. You won't profit. Corporations are our slaves to create entertainment for free and without any compensation for them.
165cad No.15301085
>>15293004
To be fair, if she was introduced today she'd be criticized for promoting unrealistic body standards etc.
e69b60 No.15301105
>implying the guys who inadvertently created the blockgame genre could make a good game
Lamo.
215b71 No.15301693
>>15301105
>has hasn't made a computer in Opus Magnum
9f2946 No.15302341
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The patch just fixed a bug with the M register. Apparently it was unintentional that you could communicate across broken links using the global setting, so every modem puzzle was easier than it was supposed to be. I think the patch introduced a new bug, though, because now two EXAs set to "global" can't communicate if they're in the same node, they have to be separated by at least one link.
>>15301693
In addition to the brainfuck interpreter, somebody also wrote an automated puzzle solver. This guy has a lot of good Shenzhen and Infinifactory solutions on his channel as well.
243f3b No.15304905
>>15302341
Oh god this autist. The god among men. Here's wondering where he'll take Exapunks.
87a55d No.15317791
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Made it to the last puzzle I think? the one where you upload yourself. There's been a few rather frustrating moments along the way but I've managed to do everything myself so far, for better or worse, without it feeling too easy or too challenging. Don't have leaderboards because piracy, so I don't know if my solutions are good, but probably not really.
I rate it breddygud/10, better than Opus Magnum at least.
>>15304905
Pretty damn far, and that's just to "stretch his legs" so to speak.
9f2946 No.15317832
>>15317791
>Made it to the last puzzle I think? the one where you upload yourself.
I'd assume the flyer in the epilogue is a hint for where the secret puzzle is, but I haven't gone looking for it yet.
>There's been a few rather frustrating moments along the way but I've managed to do everything myself so far, for better or worse, without it feeling too easy or too challenging
Speaking strictly in terms of the difficulty of completing the main campaign, I'd say it goes
SpaceChem > Shenzhen I/O > Exapunks > TIS-100 > Infinifactory > Opus Magnum
Since the bonus campaign hasn't been released yet, it's hard to say how far the difficulty will be taken. I remember people were saying Shenzhen was easier than TIS back in the day, and those complaints haven't aged well now that Avalon City is out.
87a55d No.15317855
>>15317832
When I say made it to the last puzzle, I mean I haven't completed it yet. Currently working on a reliable method for distributing all over the network without clogging up the nodes entirely. Just trying all four directions and seeing if there's already one there (denoted by a helper EXA that just locally sends a value that won't be received until all spawning is done) doesn't work as the nodes with a #nerv in them get clogged too fast.
I think I should make 4 unique spawn functions that ignore the direction the EXA came from, then I don't need the helper. Gotta go do some IRL shit first though.
3e19c4 No.15318584
>>15317855 here, different ID
My idea for spreading across the network worked, but just naively sending the hostname and nerve value results in timing conflicts.
Solving that, I think I'm going to wound up with a solution that actually has a random execution time for getting the unsorted data to one file (can't test yet since I need to finish the sorting first). Is every test run's RNG deterministic, including the RNG for Copy-M order?
3e19c4 No.15318690
Aaaand solved it.
So there's a secret mission? And you'd find it using the final zine/flyer? I'd guess you have to call the number using one of the modem levels, gonna try that first.
9f2946 No.15318705
>>15318584
>>15318690
Congratulations, did you eventually find a way to resolve the global miscommunications? It gave me such a headache I eventually made each EXA return to the host server after finding a #NERV, so good job solving it however you did.
>So there's a secret mission?
Well TIS had one and Shenzhen had one, so reasonably this one will too. Otherwise throwing in that flyer at the end just seems like very weird flavor text.
3e19c4 No.15318769
>>15318705
>Congratulations, did you eventually find a way to resolve the global miscommunications? It gave me such a headache I eventually made each EXA return to the host server after finding a #NERV, so good job solving it however you did.
I had them all ping the home EXA with a 1, said home EXA waited for a certain amount of time, checked MRD, and added one to x if true. The EXAs at the nerves then waited for a long period of cycles (like ~180 worked) so all of them had done this, and then wait for input on M. Then the home EXA sends a -1, which a random one receives, which then sends both of its values. If a nerv EXA receives a value that isn't -1, it just sends it out again, so eventually it winds up at the home EXA, which saves them to a file
Basically, only sending data when pinged, and through a network that ensures the "packet" arrives at its destination.
I've attached my entire code as an image, obviously don't look at it if you haven't finished the game yet. You wouldn't cheat, right anon?
Oh, and just dialing the numbers in the flyer in the modem levels didn't work. Back to thinking, I guess.
3e19c4 No.15318789
Image got cut off. Polite sage.
9f2946 No.15318850
>>15318769
>obviously don't look at it if you haven't finished the game yet. You wouldn't cheat, right anon?
Well no, I beat it a few days ago. Here are the most current histograms for that puzzle so you can have some idea of how you stacked up. All that time EXAs spent waiting around obviously left you with a higher cycle count than average, but that's still a cool solution to the problem.
>Oh, and just dialing the numbers in the flyer in the modem levels didn't work. Back to thinking, I guess.
For TIS you had to click the image of an eagle in the faux copyright protection screen, and in Shenzhen you had to click a certain character's icon in the last e-mail chain, so the trigger will probably be something like that. If there is one, anyway, but I'm pretty confident there will be.
3e19c4 No.15318975
>>15318850
>Well no, I beat it a few days ago
I didn't mean you, I meant other anons in the thread who might be stuck on the puzzle.
Also, how did you manage to walk back from the nerves in your solution? The only viable way I could think of would be to leave a file with the link ID of the previous node in every node, but that'd be hell to clean up and still might lead to problems if two EXAs try to read that file at the same time. Just using repl the way you'd spread out initially would lead to mass clogging.
9f2946 No.15319039
>>15318975
>Also, how did you manage to walk back from the nerves in your solution?
Each EXA holds a file with a record of the inverse of each successful link. E.g. if an EXA is sent out to test if there is a 3 link, once it crosses to the other side it'll add -3 to the end of its copy of the previous EXA's list before sending out new replicates to test for new links. It ends up so that each EXA that finds a #NERV has a record of every link necessary to go back to the host server. It's only slow at the moment because I duplicate the parent EXA's file for every replicate it sends out to test the links, so it makes a total of four copies of the file every time it finds a new node, if I want to get down below 1000 cycles I'll have to find a way to speed that up.
Even this setup doesn't completely preclude miscommunication by the way, because there are two or three tests out of the 100 where by pure coincidence two EXAs can end up at the host server at exactly the same cycle, so I had to make it so that there's only one empty space in the host to prevent two of them from getting there at the same time. It's not a great solution, it just works
3e19c4 No.15319231
>>15319039
>file with the path
I considered this, but felt like having to create a copy of the file every time you spawn a new EXA would be hard and there'd be a lot of them lying around since my EXAs just try the 3 next directions and die if there's no node.
>speed stuff up
Probably a very minor improvement, but can't you just spawn XC through XH or XI before starting instead of using repl idle to save at least a few cycles?
5586f4 No.15319298
9f2946 No.15319347
>>15319231
>Probably a very minor improvement, but can't you just spawn XC through XH or XI before starting instead of using repl idle to save at least a few cycles?
Nah, since XB isn't active until the last #NERV comes back anyway, the replication loop doesn't overlap with what XA's doing. Surprisingly it doesn't save lines to do it the other way either
9bf1a9 No.15321292
>>15277409
>Guys I think my Tachikoma has autism
14836d No.15321303
3e19c4 No.15323355
Still haven't managed to find any secret level, perhaps it'll be added when/if the expansion is released. For now I went back to Shenzen, which I never managed to finish. Progressed two more puzzles, but god damn are the mechanics a bitch in this game. Especially after how "liberating" Exapunks' mechanics were.
>>15321303
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:41E19EA1DF1B40A470F7417AF9C3F8373EF233D5&dn=EXAPUNKS.rar&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fp4p.arenabg.ch%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2feddie4.nl%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.zer0day.to%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fp4p.arenabg.com%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2f9.rarbg.me%3a2750%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2f9.rarbg.to%3a2770%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fnyaa.tracker.wf%3a7777%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fsukebei.tracker.wf%3a8888%2fannounce&tr=http%3a%2f%2fanidex.moe%3a6969%2fannounce
It's IGG, but I didn't find anything unusual about it.
9f2946 No.15323393
>>15323355
>For now I went back to Shenzen, which I never managed to finish.
Just the main campaign, or the bonus campaign? The puzzles past the Kelp Harvesting Robot are the only Zachtronics material I've never managed to beat yet
f80cde No.15323444
>>15293236
World average height is considered to be 5'8 at minimum even when accounting for radical population increases in the third world; the average in the West is more along the lines of 5'9 or 5'10'' varying by year and trending generally upwards.
Please don't spread or perpetuate misinformation as a coping mechanism for thinly veiled insecurities, there are far better and healthier options.
3e19c4 No.15323538
>>15323393
Last one I beat is the meat printer one, which I beat earlier today after unlocking it by beating the sandwich maker.
Currently open puzzles (in order) are:
>laser tag equipment
>smart grid control router
>precision food scale
>cryptocurrency deposit terminal
>electronic door lock
Haven't taken a look at all of them yet, so some might suddenly be obvious to me now. Or the spec might even have changed, it's been ages since I played and I had to revalidate a few puzzles and at least one broke.
4931ba No.15335020
>>15293347
Early Access is still released tbh.
243f3b No.15337099
Any Redshift games out in the wild yet? I'm a lazy fuck and just want to play it and see some games in action.
9f2946 No.15337128
>>15337099
Zach's posted a couple to his twitter; gtw ported Asteroids and somebody else made a version of Poker. I've been meaning to try my hand at porting Space Invaders, but haven't touched the game in a few days.
>>15335020
Zachtronics EA is, anyway, it's the same model they've used for the last five games.
243f3b No.15337140
>>15337128
It's baller as shit to see the games being distributed as PNGs that look like cartridges, and you 'plug them in' by dropping them into the game. Zach really went the extra mile with this game, almost makes me wish I got the special edition with all the feelies it includes.
243f3b No.15337152
>>15337140
Actually, nevermind. Looks like it was just a gloss printed version of the zines and the 3d glasses in a yellow paper bag. Guess you can't ask for more than that though.
At least until someone builds a working replica of the Redshift.
243f3b No.15337167
>>15337140
And the drag and drop doesn't retain the ghost image of the cartridge when you drag and drop over the game window.
Well that went down fast.
9f2946 No.15337269
>>15337152
>Actually, nevermind. Looks like it was just a gloss printed version of the zines and the 3d glasses in a yellow paper bag. Guess you can't ask for more than that though.
It had some nice little touches too, the secret envelope and the second zine were closed with little holographic stickers with the Exapunks logo on them, and the secret envelope had the iron-on patch in it. Makes me wish I had gone for Shenzhen's limited edition back in the day.
>>15337167
>drag and drop
Is that seriously how you load them? I thought it was some menu option
dd74a5 No.15337557
>>15293004
>Still trying to find a way to defend pronoun bullshit in the game.
87a55d No.15337853
>>15337557
Does it need defending when the game takes place in a dystopian future past? Everyone is a shade of mixed brown, dirt poor special snowflake actually oppressed by the cloned global elite with companies becoming so big that even shitty 7/11 knockoffs manage to create cults that try to nuke the world. It'd be weird if the general populace WASN'T leftist mystery meat too lazy to actually fight the system but virtue signal about it anyway.
>>15337269
>Makes me wish I had gone for Shenzhen's limited edition back in the day
I might feel bad if I had actually managed to get to the point where I would be allowed to open the secret envelope inside that special edition. That game's fucking difficulty goes fucking nuts.
87a55d No.15338881
I want to strangle this fat fuck from Shenzhen for his retarded ideas. There's no benefit to shoes that pick one of six colors when you hold a button and swipe a sensor over your clothes when you could just add six buttons to pick the color directly.
It's striking a little too close to clients at my actual programming job, fuck.
sage because I'm just using this as a general Zachtronics thread now
9f2946 No.15339062
>>15337853
>That game's fucking difficulty goes fucking nuts.
I remember having a lot of trouble with the Color-Coordinating Shoes back on release too, but have some faith in yourself, it's not the hardest difficulty spike Shenzhen's going to throw at you.
If you're needing a little help there's that dgt command that you may never have used before that could really help in this puzzle.
87a55d No.15339512
>>15339062
I wasn't mainly complaining about the difficulty of that particular puzzle, there's a few that seem harder to me right now. It's just that the actual premise for it is idiotic. IRL I'd be tempted to strangle Joe, if I managed to get enough of my hands wrapped around what is supposed to be a neck to do so at least.
>spoiler
Jesus fuck, completely forgot that existed. Was lamenting the lack of it while thinking about the drink mixer, and it pretty much works as a replacement for the missing div command for div 10. You are an angel, anon. I should've just RTFM better.
In my defense, constantly switching between Exapunks, Shenzhen, and TIS-100 is making it a lot harder to remember the exact commands for each. I've been binge-optimizing a lot of stuff the past few days.
2283bd No.15339644
another thing taken from me
3a99d0 No.15340513
>>15277130
>Only on Steam
i'll wait for TPB release
9f2946 No.15340623
It would be nice to have a slightly larger sprite palette, but I suppose drawing the sprite is a one-time one minute affair anyway, since it's just animated with the GP register after that
>>15340513
Every game releases on GOG after it leaves EA, and two magnets are already in the thread if you had looked
3a99d0 No.15341135
>>15340623
i just noticed it was on igg
3a99d0 No.15341184
wait wtf
star trek jew owners don't have a copyright or trademark on this term?
cc8a41 No.15341391
Went down to the printers and got the 'zines color printed. Just got handed the second one in-game, is that about the halfway point?
>>15341184
wikipedia org/wiki/Bacteriophage
>A bacteriophage (/bækˈtɪərioʊfeɪdʒ/), also known informally as a phage (/feɪdʒ/), is a virus that infects and replicates within Bacteria and Archaea
No reason star trek would have a copyright over the word phage, no
Also, captcha: Yid
3a99d0 No.15341426
>>15323355
this is super fun to install if you don't already have all the libraries and shit, visual c++ 2012, 2015, lastest .net 4.7, whatever. there's no installer so your going to have fun putting error messages into the search engine to try to find out what the fuck your missing.
3a99d0 No.15341493
>>15341426
just got it installed and BASED negro is hooking it up with knowledge to destroy the botnet
3a99d0 No.15342324
>>15341493
after playing for 4 hours this game is pretty fucking awesome
9f2946 No.15342361
I was able to get some rudimentary animations and controls working, haven't had too much time to work on it. Invaders may have been a bad idea because of sprite limitations, but I'd like to get it working all the same.
>>15341391
More or less, yeah. All in all the game includes
4 tutorial puzzles
30 puzzles
5 hacker battles
2 minigames
1 sandbox
1 level creator
and the Redshift is introduced a little after the twelfth puzzle, I think
87a55d No.15343790
In Shenzhen, for the Sun Hoatian puzzle where you have to make badges that report where people are in sectors, can someone "spoil" for me if it can request data the same tick that a new ping comes in? It happens once on the first test run, but there it sends a different ID so it can be ignored.
Really missing Exapunks' ability to scroll through tests right now, I can save a few lines if it doesn't happen but can't just go and check.
>>15342361
Did you manually make those animations or did you use the online editor?
For those that don't know, someone made a tool for animations and editing the redshift cart images: https://herebemike.github.io/tecredshift/
9ef9d6 No.15343818
>>15293236
>if you are bigger you are less reactive
Hello manlet, how is the soil?
9f2946 No.15344396
>>15343790
>can someone "spoil" for me if it can request data the same tick that a new ping comes in?
Yes, that can happen
>Did you manually make those animations or did you use the online editor?
I just made them manually, if I ever wanted to make something more complicated than a two-frame animation I'd probably want to use that tool though, thanks.
3a99d0 No.15344402
>>15280461
i'd still stick it in they's butthole
i wish this game was more multiplayer somehow, i guess the leaderboards are that, i assume there's going to be somewhere where people can download other people's challenges and compete on leaderboards.
not sure if it's worth spending $20 to compete on a leaderboard, game seems like it's worth $20 if the dev isn't a total faggot who announces his pronouns on his twitter.
9f2946 No.15344446
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15344402
>i assume there's going to be somewhere where people can download other people's challenges and compete on leaderboards.
In addition to histograms, there are also the hacker battles. You can also download other user-made puzzles and eventually you can download other players' homebrew Redshift games. It's probably the most multiplayer a game like this has had so far although I haven't for the life of me gotten the hacker battles to work with other human players yet
>if the dev isn't a total faggot
Have you never played a game from this developer before? Zach's a pretty cool guy. He doesn't do the writing anyway, Matthew Burns does that
78ca3a No.15344500
I made it what I assume to be roughly 2/3 through the game and only now realized you can directly store values in T
god I feel retarded
>>15344446
>spoiler
that's because you can only compete against people on your friend list
9f2946 No.15345565
It's coming together now, only a few items left on the checklist before it's fully functional. In the future I'd want to try making something that takes advantage of z-depth, though. The unlimited line space compared to Shenzhen's game and watch sandbox makes everything a lot easier
>>15344500
>friends
Oh, shit
3a99d0 No.15348078
>>15345565
how many lines?
i'm almost halfway done i think with the puzzles and it's becoming an issue of it becoming fucking work lol.
55dd13 No.15348271
>>15293236
>claiming that 5'6" is the ideal height for a man because taller people somehow have slower reaction time due to the length of their bodies
I know you manlets have a different perception of the world, but this is the most bizarre reasoning to justify superiority. I'm speaking from experience when saying that things only get better the taller you are, if you're not a lanky beanstalk that is. Only disadvantage is that your dick looks average
87a55d No.15348794
>>15345565
Do dead enemies still influence when they progress a line? I already saw one shitty implementation of space invaders on the Redshift, but aside from being way too fast that was one of my main complaints about it.
>z-depth
just make stuff closer to the bottom of the screen pop out more, so it feels like they're coming closer as they march on.
9f2946 No.15349723
>>15348078
It's about 1700 at the moment, mostly due to @REP loops. I think there's no line cap in the sandbox at all.
>i'm almost halfway done i think with the puzzles and it's becoming an issue of it becoming fucking work lol.
Some of the later puzzles do have a pretty generous line limit, except for the last one. They even patched the U.S. Government puzzle to have a 200 line limit for some unknown reason.
>>15348794
>Do dead enemies still influence when they progress a line?
They do, I have an idea of how to work around that but haven't gotten it working yet, you'd essentially just need invader EXAs to remain as placeholders in the pattern unless they've checked to see if they're the leftmost or rightmost invader.
>I already saw one shitty implementation of space invaders on the Redshift
Well it was honestly just a bad idea for a first game anyway, the screen space and sprite limitations make the games so short it's hard to justify including a scoring or lives system, even at the slowest speed. I had a version that sped up, but it only made the problem worse
3a99d0 No.15352962
before i destroy my brain, is this a bug?
it's on the workhouse mission.
pic related should explain it all. the username i'm looking for doesn't exist in any of the user files. there's one in "secure" that has usernames, but it doesn't work. "NORMALHUMAN" points to file 249 in this, and I got everything working as far as what i'm supposed to do, but it's apparently not the right file, but there's no fucking files that have "NORMALHUMAN" as the username.
3799c1 No.15352977
>Game was shown to have a nigger with neutral pronouns
So why are you shilling this stuff again? The thread should have died at that point.
9f2946 No.15352998
>>15352962
The description means that Norm Standart's username is normalhuman, not that the literal keyword will appear in the file
3a99d0 No.15353005
>>15352962
>>15352998
nevermind i am indeed retarded, i cheated sort of and looked at some jewtube video which confirmed i was doing it write, i had extra bullshit code that was fucking up my numbers, removed it and my solution works. thanks though.
e003f8 No.15354481
>>15354435
Anon, robots don't have those.
4e553b No.15354829
396331 No.15355011
What makes something worthy of the "punk" moniker?
I thought the punk part of cyberpunk was the "low life" contrast to the advanced tech.
But then there's steampunk. Where's the "punk" part of everything being shit and life being cheap?
I've also heard "Modem Punk".
When did punk become a thing for rich white girls? Is there a certain date? I thought the original punks were squatters and heroin addicts and shit. I don't really know much about punk music.
54e0da No.15355089
>>15293236
> the taller someone is the more time it takes for their reaction time due to the electrical signals traveling at a certain speed
< this is what manlets actually believe to help themselves sleep at night
4863e4 No.15355149
>>15352977
When did your life become so shit? What are you doing to change it?
3a99d0 No.15355191
>>15354829
>>15355149
astroturfing jews spilling over from /pol/
c16c47 No.15372377
>>15341493
So many leftist games have nigger superhackers but I've never even heard of one in real life. Does anyone know of one?
aad02f No.15372383
87a55d No.15372509
>>15372428
That's fake right? Please tell me that's fake.
>slkgier: lskfsj ksfji ksfskju ksfji ksfjks ksjgie
Nevermind, obviously written by an actual nigger behind a typewriter.
e25515 No.15372615
3a99d0 No.15372666
>>15355011
this is nu-punk, it's filled with trannies faggots anti-fa and xir's rebelling for massive government
c16c47 No.15372736
>>15372509
voice-online and newsofthesouth are real in their minds.
87a55d No.15372843
>>15372736
>they failed to find an attorney who was able to file a patent for the Greener Power because it violated the present day natural laws of physics
87a55d No.15373159
>just unlocked Avalon City in Shenzhen
Well, at least I managed to "beat the base campaign" if nothing else. I think that's something I can feel a little bit proud of.
This game's really good at making me feel like a retard though.
9f2946 No.15373170
>>15373159
Well congratulations anyway. You should try to push a little further, there are some cool puzzles in the bonus campaign, at least from what I saw.
ce0e0f No.15373358
>>15280461
I don't get it.
I can excuse the "they" pronoun since it's not made up. Am I missing something else?
3a99d0 No.15373415