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Isn't that because Netflix mostly recommended the series on their own platform, rather than promoting it on Youtube?

>>15274801

It's Netflix, everything they touch turns into shit. Remember the Death Note live adaptation? Also…

>hooktube

Anon, I…

>>15274819

What happened to hooktube?

>>15274826

It's now just a lightweight Youtube, the site owner made the mistake of putting ads and Google promptly shut them down

>>15274801

>Netflix

There's your answer.

I thought the same thing. Hell, that trailer was so good I was about to fucking preorder the game… then the emuparadise news came out so I’ll be buying my Nintendo games used from now on.

Still, that was a damn good trailer and they are giving Castlevania a lot of the right kind of love.

>>15274864

>Still, that was a damn good trailer and they are giving Castlevania a lot of the right kind of love.

It like letting Garth Ennis turn castlevaina anti-christian circle jerk was stupid.

>>15274801

Netflix is shit anon.

>>15274801

The pajeet director and the britcuck writer are not fans of the games, they liked the aesthetics and originally enjoyed Lords of Shadows. Also, no Grant DaNasty because Fuck You.

>>15274963

>abomination parade earlier this year.

># Nintendosupportschildrape (and a leftist mod is censoring the hashtag)

>Nintendo passing fag pride parade stickers as bad as Sony and Microsoft funding fag events and parades

Hi Cuckchan. Take you console shit back to Cuckchan neogaf I mean /v/.

>catholic priest in charge of an Orthodox country

Is this the legendary burger education at work?

That alucard looked all kinds of wrong.

Otherwise cool. Can we get a good castlevania now?

>>15274801

>But how can Netflix fuck up something so simple as a castlevaina show?

Because (((Netflix))) is a shitty and overly-kiked company, that's why.

>>15274801

>how can Netflix fuck up

It's Netflix. All they do anymore is shit out hateful propaganda and shut down the reviews and comments to hide the wholesale rejection of said propaganda.

>>15275337

>POL (All caps. No slashes.)

>Saying "Go back to /pol/" at all

>(1)

Hello and goodbye Newfag. Back to reddit.

>Netflix Castlevania was bad because polshit

You fuckers really do try to ruin everything you touch.

>>15275509

Fuck off faggot, don't even bring /pol/ into this when honestly these days most boards are more NatSoc than the Trump loving faggots at /pol/

>>15275645

Most criticism I’ve ever seen out of the Castlevania show, even in this thread, has been /pol/ tier crying and

>Netflix

The show was good, stop being contrarian faggots trying to fit in.

>>15275705

They didn't use it on the trailer, but they'll include plenty of classic tracks

cringe

>>15275697

you're the contrarian faggot here

>>15274801

Netflixlevania is shit anon.

>>15274819

>everything they touch turns into shit

Not necessarily, Devilman was really good although that could have just been a fluke

>>15275078

>turned Crossed into pro Muslim feminist propaganda.

I keep hearing that but I see no proof. Not that I can't believe that.

>actually showcases classics monsters like mummies, Medusa, Death

>isn't embarrassed to display Christian symbols in an unambiguously positive light

>monsters are just monsters, not tragic men of science who dindunuff

Do you see now, Warren "fedora" Ellis? Do you see how not hard this is?

>>15275078

That's Ennis. Different fedora.

>>15275706

I have a suspicion they designed Simon for western fans, and Richter for Japan.

I still like the netflix show though, the pajeet director is the same guy that directed judge dredd 3d.

>>15275030

Blame the japs, in castlevania wallachia is catholic and the ottomans dont exist.

>>15275949

It's a perfectly good dark fantasy show in it's own right. It just has nothing to do with Castlevania.

>>15275727

When the show came out most people on /v/ liked it, only /christian/ kept going with the anti-christian argument that you faggots keep spewing while trying to fit in.

>>15275078

You're right about it being written by a anti-theist fedora, but it wasn't written by Garth Ennis. Warren Ellis.

>>15275964

Lol what? Most people didn't like it. They liked the animation, but they thought that the writing didn't make sense at all.

>>15275913

Thats literally dracula's story in castlevania you dipshit, he became a vampire due to sheer hate towards god for his first wife's death and alchemy, then he spent the time on his castle doing more science and alchemy while the belmonts periodically attacked him sucesfully, he met alucard's mother, the events of her death happens and then he goes all out on his hatred for humanity, trevor becomes the first belmont to actually kill him and the rest of castlevania happens.

I swear you fucks seems to not have played the games, the thing is a whole plotpoint in symphony of the night.

>>15275964

It's blatantly anti-Christian. It spends more time demonising priests than monsters.

I don't even consider myself a Christian, and I don't mind criticism of the church in the right context, but it makes no sense to take on a franchise that has always been at least implicitly pro-Christian, if that's your angle. Just make a new thing.

>>15275969

We had like 3 threads when it came out and we all pirated it thanks to some helpfull anon that posted links for the different dubs, the only criticism was that of calling the show anti-christian (wich is bullshit) and the lack of castlevania music, now you try-hard faggots want to pretend is leftist trash that has nothing to do with castlevania, wich is, again, a bullshit claim.

>>15275985

The belmonts by that time were kicked out of wallachia (excomunicated) by the people of wallachia, that got tied with the fact that draculas wife was burned at the stake by the church, they tied that narrative together to keep a cohesive villain.

Heres the thing, the church isnt evil, the fucking bishop and his goons are, the priest in black are shown to be actually ordained catholic priests and not goons in robes, the vatican is still a force of good with the bishop being the typical bad guy that causes dracula to get mad and come back to kill people.

>But how can Netflix fuck up something so simple as a castlevaina show?

Because it was written by a jew who hated the source material and is more interested in taking a shit on The West.

>>15275982

The more you know: in Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula movie, the count stabs a crucifix and gets cursed by God. This is actually a reference to a miracle, where a crucifix was stabbed by a JES and consequently bleeded.

In another similar miracle, another jew tried to fry some sacramental bread in a pot: the pot overboiled with blood. These 2 miracles were greatly celebrated in the past; nowadays, the cucked Catholic Church of today ignores them, to protect the kikes.

>>15276012

Yeah, thats why the crucifix are usee as weapons in the game.

They adapted Castlevania 3, the worst of the original quadrology. It was doomed from the start.

>>15276029

>3

>the worst

Holy shit, what shit taste.

>>15276029

>the best game in the franchise

>the worst

You could literally go with any of the other ones. 1 for being simplistic (though that's a minor complaint), 2 for being slow and cryptic, and 4 for being piss easy and having useless items. But you went with the actually best one.

I'm curious, what did you not like about 3? Because right now, I'm assuming you're just bad.

>>15274963

>Netflix has George Soros as a shareholder.

https://money.cnn.com/quote/shareholders/shareholders.html?symb=NFLX&subView=institutional

Nowhere on either of those lists shows any of Soros's funding schemes.

>>15274801

it was made to be fetish fuel, piss drinking bestiality, fedora circle jerk

>>15276032

>>15276038

3 takes all the bullshit design from 1 and multiplies it by ten. IV is the only good Castlevania game since 1.

>>15276075

>I can't run and spam the whip button and dodge all damage

>the game is therefore bad

Yeah, go and play 4, faggot.

>>15276022

They adapted it because of nostalgia. Remember that VHS trailer when it was first announced?

The show was horribly paced since they cut an obvious movie into 4 parts. Too much dracula story at the beginning. If they were going for a sympathetic dracula, it would have been a better reveal in the second season. Also I found it a little weird they were going for a science vs religion thing with Dracula on the science side. Downgrading his menacing slaughter of the priest because they killed her innocent girlfriend ruins the mystique since they revealed that beforehand. As I said before, revealing that after would have worked much better but whatever. It was mediocre at best but it has Legends of Korra 1st season level of problems.

>>15276083

You couldn't do that in Castlevania 4 either you strawmanning faggot.

>>15275967

>but it wasn't written by Garth Ennis. Warren Ellis.

There a difference?

Castlevania 4 is objectively a bad game.

>>15276059

>Universal

It also draw a a lot of inspiration from Hammer as well.

>>15276206

Reddit isn't welcome here.

>>15276085

The series is written by some english anti-christian fedora lord who wrote for shitty comics before this series.

Just report and filter the faggot.

>>15276206

>>15276221

>>15276272

>>15276281

Mods, for the first time in my life: I am actually proud of you

>>15276470

>kino

go back to >>>/tv/

>>15276515

>Implying I drink soda at all

I only drink coffee like any healthy individual would.

>>15274909

Your're thinking about Warren Ellis, not Garth Ennis.

>>15274801

Eh, the show's alright. Nothing spectacular but it could've been a lot worse.

>>15275705

Holly Shit, this is fucking amazing!

The issue is that Castlevania was never supposed to be super-serious grimdark anime shit. It was supposed to be atmospheric and creepy, but in the same way as old monster movies, with over-the-top action camp and cheesy vampire stuff. SotN was a good game, but it did more damage than just pushing Castlevania into a Metroidvania series, it also completely changed the atmosphere and style.

Castlevania going anime was a mistake.

>>15275735

>devilman

>good

everyone point and laugh at this nigger

You have shit taste

>>15277010

That's a good point, but SotN really cemented it just by virtue of being massively popular. They're still good games, but I do miss when Castlevania was a cheesy romp through Universal and Hammer movie tropes with killer music, a gothic atmosphere, and a goofy story on top, and they hadn't gotten up their ass with a convoluted self-important anime story yet. I enjoy the anime metroidvania games, but I wish they were a different series and Castlevania itself had gone in a different direction.

>>15277082

Don't reply to shitposters and derailers. Talk about Castlevania and Smash Bros. Off topic is one thing, but never entertain a shitposter whose obvious goal is to derail an entire thread onto politics and religion.

This is just my shit opinion, but if a show were to be done right on Castlevania it should be a huge mash-up of "spooky" horror stuff and monsters in general fighting each-other for dominance, destroying and threatening everything in the process, with the Belmont bloodline somehow always finding themselves in the mix. Kind of like a semi-serious parody of everything horror and gothic related.

I've actually never watched the Netflix series so I'm not sure if it's exactly this, I just assumed since it's Netflix it's shit

>castlevania should like be a non-serious (((parody))) and stuff

NO.

>>15277135

You're right about Mario, but I don't think it'd work on Castlevania because people don't expect Mario to have a consistent story throughout the games because things are more deliberately and openly goofy and non-serious on that game. The world is even made up and inconsistent, whereas Castlevania takes place on Earth.

Just take a look at the closer relatives of Mario and you'll find Zelda, which has an extremely convoluted timeline shit made to bullshit all the games together, and can get pretty self-important and animey at times. If you consider that Castlevania doesn't even have comedic characters or even cutesy stuff like Zelda does, you'll see it has many more reasons to needing to have a story that strings it together than Mario.

>>15277164

If you think for a minute that I mean it should be like those shitty Youtube "parodies" or even Scary Movie then you need to go, man. I'm not sure if I worded it right, but I mean "parody" as a good twist on different concepts.

>>15277172

You're probably right. It could be done well, but the general public doesn't like nuance and probably wouldn't be able to see the point in a game that is gritty and gothic but still not serious despite not being openly cartoony or goofy.

>>15277164

Given that the first game was already essentially semi-serious parody, being a mashup of action and Hammer horror tropes with a killer soundtrack, I don't see the problem. Did you not like the first Castlevania?

>>15277189

So you basically mean not super serious. A parody is far afield of some joke names as reference in the credits of the game.

>>15277190

>Did you not like the first Castlevania?

I loved it. Read above and rethink your notion that Castlevania was a parody.

>>15277205

Mega Man's mechanics were never really that solid either. Only could shoot directly ahead, couldn't duck, and movement is really slippery. I'm not sure why you're bringing up that you can only whip in one direction, but turning around to compare it to a game where you can only shoot in one direction.

If you take the music and setting out of Mega Man, it's also much less fun. Really, if you take the strong portions of any game out of the game, it's less good. Is that much of a revelation?

>>15277224

>So you basically mean not super serious. A parody is far afield of some joke names as reference in the credits of the game.

He literally said "semi-serious", and no, those are definitely parody.

> I loved it. Read above and rethink your notion that Castlevania was a parody.

It absolutely was. You're misunderstanding what the word "parody" means. It's simply exaggeration for humor. It doesn't have to be over-the-top. Catch-22 is parody. Parody doesn't have to be extreme, over-the-top, or even obvious. It's simply humorous exaggeration.

>>15274829

The jews always feast on the weak willed he got too greedy and fell right into their trap. Why can't someone do something for free now days just to help others?

>>15277248

>parodies

>semi-serious

Nigger, you don't even know what a parody is.

>It absolutely was. You're misunderstand what the word "parody" means.

<doubling down on your own ignorance

>It's simply exaggeration for humor.

<slightly changed names as horror film references is "an exaggeration"

>It doesn't have to be over-the-top. Catch-22 is parody. Parody doesn't have to be extreme, over-the-top, or even obvious. It's simply humorous exaggeration.

Again the only thing you a grasping at for parody status are some altered names referencing those involved with classic horror movies at the end of the entire game.

>>15277190

It absolutely would have worked if it had established to be goofy from the very beginning. The NES castlevania games didn't have any comedic characters or interactions and the world was always presented as being in a state of decay and grittiness due to Dracula's presence. Even the first Zelda games had some goofy characters and towns where people seemed to be fine despite of the monsters lurking around.

>>15277205

Castlevania's gameplay was slower and more deliberate than Megaman and required you to use the sub weapons to make do for the whip's limitations. Whereas you could get by in Megaman by sheer reflexes, Castlevania forced you to think ahead a little bit more due to the fact that you're slower and the whip has a delay. The gameplay is nothing alike and they attempt to do different things. Sub weapons in Megaman, for example, aren't as much of a necessity as they are in Castlevania (i'm saying as much because I know you can get by in NES Castlevania with just the whip, it's just a lot harder).

>>15277258

> Again the only thing you a grasping at for parody status are some altered names referencing those involved with classic horror movies at the end of the entire game.

That and the entire concept and makeup of the game, which is a barbarian fighting through a bunch of Hammer movie monsters. I'm not sure why you're bringing up the changed names, as I didn't site those as a definition of parody; I brought those up to exemplify that the earlier games weren't taking themselves seriously.

I'm sure it's easy to make a point when you take my words out of context and pretend that they were directed at you.

>>15277261

I don't think it should be goofy in-game, though. The game can have a serious tone without taking itself seriously or having to have some big self-important story. I want the games to have a serious tone, but I don't want the game to pretend like it's serious business. Look at 80s action movies like Die Hard. They are serious and gritty for the most part, but they know the purpose is fun. They don't try to sell some deep plot or convoluted arcs.

>>15277302

>didn't site those

*cite

I'm making typos all over the place today for some reason.

>>15277302

>which is a barbarian

It's almost like those were popular at the time…

>fighting through a bunch of Hammer movie monsters

It's almost like fighting monsters is cool

You are grasping at straws.

>>15277309

What's your point? Neither of those negate that it is parody. If you had a movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger ran through a castle killing Dracula, the Wolf Man, the Mummy, and Death, using joke names that reference the original actors, it would be considered a parody. Turn it into a video game and it's not?

>>15277135

There is a fine line between camp and trash. One of the things that worked about the original Castlevania aesthetic was that it played it straight and unironically but was self aware. All too often people trying to recapture that camp are self aware but deliberately play up the comedy and break the 4th wall to let the audience know they the author is in on the "joke" which paradoxically spoils the innocence that made the original authentic. Just like how the original horror movies it borrows from where authentic there is still a sense of respect and dignity paid to these things even in the film real styled credits sequence. That it was rather an homage then a parody.

>to let the audience know the author is in on the "joke"

they

>The original horror movies it borrows from where authentic. There is still a sense of respect and dignity paid to the original. This is even seen in the film real styled credits sequence in Castlevania

what the fuck, I hardly even know what I was trying to say with this broken sentience.

>>15277335

A movie with a barbarian killing a bunch of Hammer monsters with Hammer monster references wouldn't be considered parody?

>>15277341

I'm also not saying that it should be campy or trashy, either. I want it to take itself seriously and not break the 4th wall, I just want it to have the simplicity of the original and stop getting up its own ass with anime cutscenes, main characters who talk way too much, and magical plots with piles of villains. I liked when it was just Dracula summoned a bunch of Hammer monsters and you had to kill them all.

I'm just suggesting that the games could be a lot closer to what they were originally.

>>15277389

First of all, Simon being buff and wearing fur/leather doesn't make him a barbarian. Secondly, even if he were a barbarian, him killing famous monsters that happened to be in old movies doesn't make it a parody. As the anon above pointed out, it's a homage. Not a parody. Just because you can't take a "barbarian" fighting Hammer monsters seriously doesn't mean it's a fucking parody.

>Castelvania cartoon was bad because it offended people

>>15275697

>The show was good

The story is completely retarded. It tries to portray the church as anti-science ignorant hypocritical retards and Dracula as a misguided and sympathetic villain when Dracula is literally the setting's Satan and the church's blessings are the only effective way to fight back against his omnicidal hoard of demons.

The fight scenes are nice, though. Nice to see actual fights instead of choreographed dance-offs with swords.

>>15274963

>(and a leftist mod is censoring the hashtag)

Actually its because you are a treehouse faggot false flagging so anytime somebody brings up criticisms of treehouse outside of here you can just point to your posts and say "look its only homophobic misogynist gamergator drumpf nazis that has a problem with treehouse'

>>15276075

>not playing the infinitely better jap version which also has better music

CV3[j] is the best game in the series. Seriously, play it.

>>15277531

Dracula IRL was a hero, not a villain.

>Korra had nice fight choreography too, didn't stop the show from being a dumpster fire.

I can't agree with you on that one. The fights were dance-offs with elemental magic and felt nothing like actual fights.

>>15277617

Kill yourself faggot

>>15277205

>music and setting were the only things that made old castlevania worth it but mechanically it was never good

This tbh, i played castlevania in the NES as a kid because it was spooky (the only spooky, famous NES game in the west) and was enjoyable

>>15277522

None of you fucks have played the fucking castlevania games yet here you are talking about castlevania like if you knew what was going on.

All the things that happens in the animated series happen in the videogame you dumb fuck, including dracula being an alchemist, dracula's castle has a lab and libraries and many mechanical/biomechanical monsters have appeared on it, dracula is a smart guy in castlevania.

>>15277691

>dracula is a smart guy in castlevania.

Yes, having played most of the games, I'm fully aware of this. However, nothing you were blathering on about addressed anything I said, and even if it did, it would still be wrong because the church in the games isn't a pack of anti-science luddites like they are in the show. All of the DS games have the church using science, alchemy, and magic to oppose Dracula. Hell, the magic spell Holy Lightning has been part of the series since CV3.

You're a retard, kill yourself.

>>15277770

> All of the DS games have the church using science, alchemy, and magic to oppose Dracula.

Anon, that only started after the belmonts fucked off and the first attempts are on order of ecclesia, thats in the 19th century, travor's times are much more different.

>You're a retard, kill yourself.

For pointing out that the shit peopel sperg about actually shows up in the fucking games?

Drac's wife getting burned at the stake was what caused his undying hatred for mankind.

>>15277861

There's no mention of the order being part of the church. They could be scholars.

And before that the Belmonts have been working with magic users and even married them into their bloodline.

Lisa died during the witch trials which was actually caused by Carmilla. The church was one of the places that acted as a refuge for hunted witches.

Catholic monks were known to be scholarly in their pursuits and were greatly influenced by Aristotle who they referred to as "The Philosopher" If the church in Castlevannia is true to it's parallels then they would have been hoarding all kinds of knowledge including magics..

>>15277944

>There's no mention of the order being part of the church.

They were funded by the church along with other orders, but thats not the point, the point is the the church in castlevania getting mixed up with science is something that started around the 19th century in the game.

>And before that the Belmonts have been working with magic users and even married them into their bloodline.

Yes, trevor married sypha and many magic users were present, i faiil to see how this relates to the point of the church not being scientific alligned in castelavania 3's era.

>Lisa died during the witch trials which was actually caused by Carmilla.

And she was burned by the church.

>If the church in Castlevannia is true to it's parallels

They arent, for starters, wallachia is orthodox, not catholic.

>>15277861

> travor's times are much more different.

Sypha was literally employed by the church, you illiterate subhuman retard. Not only is your red herring "no this is in the games" argument completely bullshit, it still has NOT A GOD DAMN THING TO DO WITH THE WRITING BEING ATROCIOUS AND SELF-CONTRADICTORY EVEN WHEN YOU SET THE GAMES ASIDE.

>>15277389

>i just want Castlevania to be wholesome again and true to itself.

I agree

>>15275337

Like shooting fish in a barrel

>>15278010

>They were funded by the church along with other orders

Source? I couldn't find anything on it

>Yes, trevor married sypha and many magic users were present, i faiil to see how this relates to the point of the church not being scientific alligned in castelavania 3's era.

Because the church called upon them for help and maintained good relations with them thereafter?

>And she was burned by the church.

In the anime. Not the game

In the games the church offered refuge to the witches. They even employed them as hunters.

>They arent, for starters, wallachia is orthodox, not catholic.

The Easter Orthodox Church aka the Orthodox Catholic church? That breanch uses Aristotle in its conceptual frameworks too

>>15278084

>I couldn't find anything on it

It's heavily implied throughout the dialog in OoE that the OoE is funded by the church, but there's no moment where it's outright stated.

>>15278087

Anon, if we go by that, then trevor should be called ralph, the cross is a boomerang shaped like an X, alucard is lugosi, grant is a pirate ghost and dracula conquered all of europe.

You are aware most of the shit in the old manuals (both japanese and english, since they were both different) has been retconned to hell and back right?

>Because the church called upon them for help and maintained good relations with them thereafter?

After the events of castlevania 3, not during or before (like what happens in the series).

>The Easter Orthodox Church aka the Orthodox Catholic church?

Greek orthodox, as in the ones that were in constantinople.

>>15278122

Forgot to quote >>15278084

>>15278122

Ah, so you're claiming that Sypha's allegiance to the church was retconned out? Why not prove that, then? Should be easy enough for a master like you who's played all the games and definitely isn't talking out of their ass.

>>15274801

>>15274819

Netflix is also the geniuses behind "Dear White People".

Cap that off with them wanting to make Japan do things more western-y so they can force them to compete on their level and then beat them with experience.

> Why appeal to all the losers in your country when you can appeal to the dry-brains in the whole western hemisphere? Instead of making soft-core porn you make subtle propaganda.

Sad thing is, these guys are still shaping up to pick up the mantle of TV. Apart from being a'la carte and on demand, there really is no difference in the quality of what is output. Sure you have older media but it comes and goes, and I have no doubt they'll happily take money to keep good old stuff off their network if it kicks the shit out of a similar modern show, or promotes "bad" ideals.

>>15275078

That'll explain it. While good shows from good people can end up on Netflix, they will support people like that.

The worst one is when you get someone who makes something good, then as they get popular (or even right at the end of a series) reveal their hard-left agenda.

The other major downside is that thanks to how fucked media has been for several generations, even good people don't know how to write a good story anymore- the idea of expanding beyond the same tired tactics everyone else uses is alien to them.

> "If I make my protagonist too useful or strong, readers might find him unrealistic. I better add some flaws."

> Proceeds to make the protag a pathetic piece of shit that wins the day through sheer bullshit, and doesn't inspire audiences like a powerful & strong character who has to work even harder/smarter to beat the villain.

>>15278122

After the events of Castlevania 3 would still be the same year in which it took place (1476) which was well before the 19th century. And this is Trevor Belmont who later had babies with a witch who worked for the church.

>Greek orthodox, as in the ones that were in constantinople.

Which is part of the Eastern Orthodoxy?

>>15278162

Technically it was also before and during as well as after, since Trevor was specifically sought out by the church after Sypha failed to get the job done. And it's not like the church was afraid of magic even before that, since during the 11th century they gave Leon the whip of alchemy.

>>15278141

I have no idea if sypha's status as a holy witch was retconned, but what im sure is that the church using magic and science is a thing that comes later in the series since the gameboy advance.

>>15278162

What are you even trying to prove at this point?

Yes, the events of castlevania 3 do not take place in the 19th century, where the belmonts fucked off and the church had to resort to magic and science to figth off dracula.

>>15278177

> they gave Leon the whip of alchemy.

Wasnt the whip given to him by that armourer guy outside of the castle before the whole deal with his wife?

>>15278181

> im sure is that the church using magic and science is a thing that comes later in the series since the gameboy advance.

Prove it, you illiterate faggot. I've already provided evidence for the church embracing magic in the 15th century and earlier. You've only asserted claims and nothing else.

>>15278181

Literally this

>If the church in Castlevannia is true to it's parallels then they would have been hoarding all kinds of knowledge including magics.

And I proved it by showing they employed magic users? And offered them refuge? And their descendants STILL work for the church (Yoko)? Literally contradicting what you said about the church the line above?

>>15278211

*line above your response to me

>>15278203

Again, order of ecclesia is implied to be the start of the church getting shit done with magic a science, its mentioned many different organizatiosn such as ecclesia had tried and failed, from then on is that we see non-belmonts man it up to defeating dracula while the belmonts take a break for a century.

>>15278211

All of that happening AFTER castlevania 3.

Wich is also AFTER the belmonts were kicked out of wallachia.

>>15278224

Yeah and they were sought out by the church in 1476 (well before the 19th century) who worked with them thereafter.

>>15279016

jews demonize the shit out of Christians at every opportunity. I'm an atheist who has mercifully grown out of the teenagst phase, and even I capitalize God, and don't bag on people who want to follow a guidebook of morals. I mean, now that I know about the evils of pisslam and dishebes, why would I piss on a religion that is legitimately peaceful, for the most part?

>>15279078

I believe the last part of Matthew actually calls out the Jews and reveals their deceitful ways which is probably why it irks them so much.

>>15279016

I guess the real sin here is that they found a need to include a corrupt clergy subplot into a Castlevania show. It's needless padding. There's plenty enough antagonists to fill screentime for a Belmont to slay without having a stupid human drama angle too.

>>15277944

>order of ecclesia

>not the church

You know what the word "ecclesia" is often used to refer to, right?

>>15279162

Knew the Greek usage but never knew it could refer to a church

>>15279172

It's the root for the word "Ecclesiastical."

>>15276007

>>15275985

That's the thing though. It didn't portray christianity as a whole bad, it only portrayed the bishop and the chirch corrupt, hell the major point if you remember was the vampires storming the Church itself at Dusk and the thing the Bishop says is "How can you be here? This is God's holy ground" and the main vampire beast says outright "God no longer knows this place" if that didn't tip you off that he fucked up so hard that God doesn't even acknowledge the Church anymore and the people who were good christians that were safe implies more pro christianity than negative then I dunno what to tell you

>>15279201

I feel that was just some weak lampshading to the otherwise obvious "CHURCH B BAD" bullshit they had going, but I'd be willing to forgive it if they show some badass Catholic armies fighting back against Dracula's horde in S2. Something to show "oh, hey, it's not every single religious person, just a few corrupt sectors".

Still not very Castlevania-like, but better.

>>15279211

I wouldn't doubt if Sypha's sect of Monks came back like that. Hell that was another thing they were convinced partially by Sypha towards the end of Season 1 to start fighting back

>>15279226

In the show Sypha isn't from or connected to the church in any way. She's some kind of gypsie.

>>15279777

I was mistaking the Speakers as part of the church when they're traveling monks essentially. You're right. However there was still the Priest that gave Trevor Holy Water to save survivors of the battle. Which is another thing that points to "The church bad, but Christianity is good" was at the very end of Season one the church and Bishop was all but cleaned out but there was still heavy worship of Christianity. So most likely yes we're going to see those armies at least start rising up in Season 2

>>15278153

On a side note, Netflix funded the Hibana: Spark, which was a series made exclusively for Japanese market, and I gotta say that I really enjoyed it, because Netflix actually provided funds for good equipment and quality film directors to be hired for a TV series (which is a rarity).

>>15280906

>why was my post deleted for pointing out an atheist subverted the game's pro-religious undertones???

Mark a literal fedora tipping jew.

>>15277252

Muh server costs ?

>>15275706

>>15275924

He-Man!Simon was Konami trying to emulate Western media back then.

Also lol politics in bideo jamesssssssss

>>15286108

>nollie

<doesn't nollie

>>15286130

Fakie?

>>15275985

>It's blatantly anti-Christian. It spends more time demonizing priests than monsters.

This is a piece of what I meant when I said a lot of you fuckers work desperately to destroy everything you touch. Your complaint doesn't hold fucking water when the expanded canon (and I use that term loosely since Castlevania 1/2 didn't really HAVE anything in the lines of story) has long since drawn the picture you're bitching about. It's not so much religion is evil as it is men want power and will do shit to get that power. Just so happens back then the easiest way to claim it in Europe was be of the cloth or be of the sword. A lot of the events in post-Rondo Castlevania lore emphasize those points. Curse of Darkness in particular justifies more than a bit of what the show itself does, since a lot of the map backdrops are abandoned and sacked fortresses and villages—places where people used to live before Lisa's death caused Mathias to flip the fuck out and full-on KRIEG on Wallachia and Europe (a factor also stated in Castlevania 3's own prologue).

Curse of Darkness wasn't the only title that threw zealots and exploitation of high positions into question: Order of Ecclesia did the same damn thing in spades. Hell, the "pro-christian" message you spout didn't really pop up timeline-wise until Portrait of Ruin, which was modern era. Doctrine as represented in canon is harsh, though not entirely unfair. It's the individual that also tends to exasperate shitty situations, like with Barlowe, Shaft, and Isaac.

- Sypha (CV3) was a heretic through & through, and would have been burnt at the stake as a witch if she were ever caught.

- The Church DID also excommunicate the entire Belmont family (a second time by Trevor's lifetime, the first being Leon).

- Racheal(name?)—Isaac's sister and the Curse of Darkness's vendor—outright states her practice would earn her an Inquisition. She's a practicing witch, same as Sypha.

- Hector's wife? Burned for heresy (despite it being a setup, someone still played along with it). A Nun, btw.

- Lisa, burned for heresy. Apothecary who had the nerve to science in a time where science wasn't so encouraged.

- Maria, Ricther's sister in-law, would've also been burned and kept a low profile outside of demon hunting (Drama CDs of her chasing after Alucard). Mystic and spirit medium.

Shit was always there and you'd know that if you & others played the series.

>>15278177

>since during the 11th century they gave Leon the whip of alchemy.

Reinhard (Renaldo?) gave Leon that whip inside the Forest of Darkness. The church gave Leon the boot after he decided to desert the front lines vs the Ottomans when he caught word that his waifu was in danger. Lament of Innocense goes into detail in prologue that Leon was stripped of status and land when he forsook his post to rescue his wife from a vampire lord.

A little bit of occult knowledge for you. The word 'witch' refers to 2 completely different creatures: the first is human sorcerers, as commonly intended; but the other is a kind of supernatural fiend that hunts at night, especially in the woods.

Ancient romans believed in malevolent, flying spirits called Stryx, described as demonic howls. The concept carried over to the middle ages, up to Romania where they became vampires: flying predators of the night.

>>15286954

>Curse of Darkness wasn't the only title that threw zealots and exploitation of high positions into question: Order of Ecclesia did the same damn thing in spades.

It was implied, especially in the Japanese dialogue that Barlow got corrupted by the Dominus just like Albus did

>Sypha (CV3) was a heretic through & through, and would have been burnt at the stake as a witch if she were ever caught.

They gave her refuge and even taught her magics in order to become a hunter

>- Racheal(name?)—Isaac's sister and the Curse of Darkness's vendor—outright states her practice would earn her an Inquisition. She's a practicing witch, same as Sypha.

No mention of Julia being hunted by the church but being hunted in general due to the witch trials caused by Carmilla. The very same trials that the church offered witches refuge.

> Lisa, burned for heresy. Apothecary who had the nerve to science in a time where science wasn't so encouraged.

> Maria, Ricther's sister in-law, would've also been burned and kept a low profile outside of demon hunting (Drama CDs of her chasing after Alucard). Mystic and spirit medium.

Did it occur to you that it was the peasants and not the church who did that? At the time even the church's employee, Syphia, had to disguise herself as a man to avoid being accused by the townspeople she was trying to help of being a witch which is why she's referred to as a he until the game's ending.

>>15277861

>>15278010

>(16)

wew thats a lot of salt.

You lost. It's time to go back to leftypol

>>15287225

>he thinks 16 posts on topic on a thread that has 162 posts its a lot

>actually talking about the game is leftypol

God forbid you actually play the games, better just keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again.

>>15287259

17 posts of salt and blatantly wrong information.

>>15287270

>wrong information

>shit that actually happened in the game

The ones that are wrong are those that nitpick shit from manuals of the NES that wouldnt even make sense nowadays.

If you think sypha is a witch of the church then grant is a pirate ghost and dracula conquered all of europe (while somehow the pope is ok and sent trevor to kill him).

>>15287284

That info is literally confirmed in game in later entries but okay.

>>15279078

>why would I piss on a religion that is legitimately peaceful, for the most part?

Because peace isn't inherently good and Christianity is functionally AIDS for ethnostates. Sure, pulling a Gandhi is great for settling conflict through ideological subversion, but you have to understand that it only works when you have the ethnic substrate for that subversion, i.e. sapient or near sapient hominids. Try such things in the face of nigger hordes and the outcome isn't going to be the Christianization of Europe, where having no ethnic immune system isn't really that important because you're surrounded by other Whites in ever direction.

>>15287404

Basically this, Atheist ethnostates are the future of the white race.

Athiests have more kids, it's a proven fact.

Norway

Iceland

Japan

Finland

Czech

Sweden

All atheist and secular ethnostates with healthy birthrates and strong values.

Christcucks are killing the world

>>15287453

I see what you did there.

>>15287482

>Christcuck can't argue, so he becomes facetious

It's an upgrade from spamming fedora pictures, but still pretty illogical

>>15287453

When the pathos is lit but the logos is shit. Fast death, slow death, what about no death? Of course the atheist is maladjusted, but the choice isn't between Christianity and atheism.

>>15287494

Begum Bagan

>>15287453

How do you do fellow /pol/lacks

>>15287404

A benign religion, one that is more Platonic, is goof for keeping the peace among lay person in spite of ethnic differences. Cultural homogeneity either through religion or race can prolong the peace even in socialized economies that are prone to crashing like Japan's whereas without that homogeneity it will every man (and his tribe) for themselves which is what we're seeing with the rise of socialism in South Africa.

>>15287517

I feel like the solution is more like having a comforting, productive, and non-self destructive mythos for people who intellectually bottom out at different thresholds; a purpose for people who find the edge of the unknown at string theory or in the magic of a light turning on when you flick the switch alike.

>>15287527

One of the more interesting things about Catholicism is that it incorporated both Platonic and Aristotelian philosophies into it's conceptual frameworks. While you had priests who preached to the masses the church had monks and scholars who dedicated themselves to reconciling the substantive reality with the belief in God and even contributed to the sciences. Plato in the streets Aristotle in the sheets.

>>15287545

Not for lack of trying to prevent exactly that. Christianity's initial spread into Europe via the Roman Empire was lubricated by Stoicism being in vogue among the Greek enamored elite and the success of other imported Eastern sun cults-

An aside: Stoicism is fundamentally proto-Christianity, the idea that being moral comes from accepting all things, no matter how horrible, as the will of a single all powerful God, conflated to various degrees with Greek philosophical ideas of God and other Gods being manifestations. Meditations, Book 8, 23:

>23. Am I in action; I refer it to some benefit thence to accrue to mankind. Does any thing befall me? I accept it, as referring it to the Gods, the fountain of all things; from whom all things are ordered in a fixed series.

Marcus himself was a literal cuckold whose reactionary policies towards the problems faced by the Roman Empire (not more significant than in the past) can be comfortably blamed for the end of the golden age.

-, though it was initially avowedly an anti-intellectual religion for slaves and other mystery meat non-citizens ("downtrodden") where anyone with a Classical education was disparaged as being blinded by learning from God's truth, you inevitably had what were essentially Roman elite hipsters who, tired by the inherent lack of final answers about life from the Greek philosophical schools, plied all they had learned from them to give a deeper basis to this new spirituality imported once again from the ever exotic east.

Again, all of this occurring in essentially a test tube filled with Europeans, hence the effect of the action, which cannot be generalized as we have since seen.

>>15279104

I'm not a religious anon. Could you point the passage out for me?

A black gangsta rapper with a WE WUZ KANG gimmick produce better music than Netflix castlevania

Sadly I am not even kidding.

>>15288645

Sounds like shit

>>15288230

>Revelation 2:9

<‘I know the distress you are suffering and your poverty (but you are rich). I also know the slander against you by those who call themselves Jews and really are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

>Revelation 3:9

<Listen! I am going to make those people from the synagogue of Satan – who say they are Jews yet are not, but are lying – Look, I will make them come and bow down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

<those who call themselves Jews and really are not, but are a synagogue of Satan

<those people from the synagogue of Satan – who say they are Jews yet are not

>Literally #NotAllJews

That second image is so out of context it gives the yellow press a run for its money.

>>15288758

inb4 Khazar mental gymnastic

>>15288777

Checked for Khazar milkers destroying so many European civilizations. I wonder how many generations it took from the Khazars larping as jews to actually becoming the real jew menace.

>>15288758

You're pretty retarded m8, its basicly saying that the jews of today arent real jews but just say they are, the real jews died ages ago and the ones claiming to be ones today are just satan worshippers.

>>15288840

>the real jews died ages ago

They joined Christianity. It's hard to realize, but a modern jew is someone whose entire philosophy is to deny all Jesus teachings.

>>15288840

>jews aren't jews

>because my magic desert wars book said so

/christian/ used to be the underdog of religion arguments a couple of years ago. Always being bullied and made fun of.

Nowadays they have their own board, their own anime mascot, and their own anti-dissidence meme, the memehat thing (how the fuck did they keep the fedora meme alive anyway? Its older than fucking baneposting and nobody even cares about it anymore except for them). That goes to show even religion is a cyclical trend. I'm particularly surprised about this because imageboard culture and Christianity don't mix at all. Most of the ways and mannerisms of imageboard culture are centered around bullying, putting people down or being derogative.

>>15297424

christcucks are like scientologists or jehovah's witnesses in that they always go places where they are not welcome (even by design) and try to convert lost souls to their cult. Remember christian rock? All these christian-friendly alternative rip offs of actually cool events/activities? They're a cancer.

>>15275312

>overly-kiked

Any amount of kiked is overly kiked.

>>15297432

This new trend of flaunting your Christianity on the internet isn't exactly rooted in Christianity itself. It's political. Political retaliation, to be more precise.

/pol/ started hammering down the Christianity thing really hard in retaliation of the left trying to slander it in any way possible (since Christianity goes against feminism, and since the left just hates everything conservatives do). Now being Christian is cool, DEUS VULT and all that, you're fighting off feminiggers and standing for what your ancestors stood for, bla bla bla.

>>15278031

>the same that said that sypha was a fucking guy.

Anon, I.

>>15287210

>At the time even the church's employee, Syphia, had to disguise herself as a man to avoid being accused by the townspeople she was trying to help of being a witch which is why she's referred to as a he until the game's ending.

>>15279078

What if I just don't capitalize god all the time?

>>15285993

>The Divine Comedy was basically Dante's quasi-historical self-insert Fanfic

I've only read part of it in a general literature book in highschool many years ago, and what little else I know, I know secondhand. Yet I feel this is an accurate statement.

>>15297591

>doesn't post video games

Go back to cuckchan with that thread policing if you aren't going to do something useful.

So were there any decent vidya adaptations?

>>15279040

More info on this please

>>15298081

I'd activate her, if you know what I mean.