/v/ - Happy GamerGate Day

>>15268391

Fucken downloading it now, ya twit. Gimme a few hours to try it out before you make a faggot thread.

Magnet?

>>15268423

Google it, it's everywhere singe it got gog release.

>>15268427

Go fuck yourself, make one yourself or shill elsewhere.

I'm not paying for this garbage.

>>15268432

Then you don't matter anyway.

>>15268434

>you don't matter anyway

<#leftbehind

They obviously hired a cheapskate if you're the one on duty here.

>>15268440

Czech these on your way out.

>>15268443

>off by one

Nice try fagman

>>15268434

Matter to whom, the company paying you? They are paying you, right?

>>15268423

>>15268427

>>15268432

>>15268434

>>15268440

The fuck is this faggotry

>>15268510

>hater

you don't belong here normalfaggot

>>15268518

>word policing

Nice SJW tactic, faggot. You really are just like them.

>>15268510

>hater

Nevermind cuckchan, you belong in the fucking Youtube comments.

>>15268512

OP posting a magnet has always been an unspoken rule, faggot. It's how he proves he isn't trying to sell the game and genuinely wants people to play it.

>>15268533

(checked)

>>15268529

>spoonfeeding has always been an unspoken rule

No it has not.

Still waiting on magnet…

>>15268569

lurk more shill

So what was this drama about? I missed it entirely and IGNorant issued an apology?

>>15268577

IGNorant ripped off their Deadcells review from a youtuber who caught them and made a comparision video

>>15268586

It was IGN's Nintendo editor of all people too.

>inb4 I get banned for implications

>>15268512

lurk for 2 more years newfag

>>15268391

>>15268423

For any anon wanting a download, It's going to be uploaded at the Sharethread OP's volafile

If you dont want to wait go to goodolddownloads and they should have it soon

>>15268609

You're just mad because you got exposed as a newfag begging to be spoonfed

>>15268609

>can't get dubs

>on a post ending with 8585

>does not know Made in Abyss

>calls others newfags

you're clearly a redditor and it shows newfag

>>15268609

>he doesn't know what MiA is

newfags >>>/out/

>>15268569

>>15268585

>spoonfeeding

I can easily find a magnet myself. I want OP to provide one to prove he isn't doing it for free, and because it shows that he's actually interested in getting people to play and possibly enjoy the game. When OP says shit like >>15268434 because someone said they won't pay, it looks like he's more interested in making sales than getting people to play and join the discussion.

>>15268623

>sperging out and projecting

>which I never responded to

>doubling down

<haha i told you, you newfag!

Don't you have a gg thread to sit in, or a discuck group chat to circlejerk in?

I asked for a magnet because this game is an early access indie pixelshit game. I don't give a fuck what eceleb/streamer got your attention fixated on this, but that does not make it purchase material. This was in beta for over a year, why would I pay for aomething they have been selling half complete for much longer?

Fuck off

>nanachifags still this butthurt that their furry fapbait guro manga isn't widely accepted outside of MAL/leddit/tr/a/nnytown

>screeching and calling others newfags

Color me shocked.

Back to discuck with you fags.

DESIGNATED

>>15268654

>being this new

>being this assblasted

>>15268667

>only names nanachi after he was called on not knowing what it was

>had to go find out what made in abyss is

>doubleposts instead of responding to both posters in same post

>being this fucking new

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15268647

You're the accuser, shouldn't you be the one proving OP is a shill?

>>15268667

>what are IDs

The cuckchan refugees are getting too bold

>>15268677

Nice digits, shitter, but you are making such an ass of yourself with the sperging out here.

Maybe consider this when you are emotionally driven to respond:

Write your initial thoughts down, and walk away without posting.

Take your mind off the upsetting remark you read.

Come back with a fresh mind, and re-read what you typed.

No, seriously dude, slow your autism down. You are embarassing enough for us both, with only (2) posts

>>15268690

>>15268692

The both of you need to fuck off.

>>15268703

Playing it now, will report back to you in a few days.

I don't make my opinion after the first 5 minutes of a game.

>>15268690

>You're the accuser, shouldn't you be the one proving OP is a shill?

Well, he said this on that same post:

>When OP says shit like >>15268434 because someone said they won't pay, it looks like he's more interested in making sales than getting people to play and join the discussion.

>>15268702

This shit thread needs to fuck off

>>15268715

>doubling down this hard

>being this gay

>being this much of a nigger

>>>/out/

>49 replies and still no discussion of the vidya

Not that I am contributing, since I never even heard of the game, and the thread certainly didn't help.

>>15268510

what

>>15268760

Anyone that doesn't like indieshit shilling is a hater apparently

>>15268740

<stop namecalling me!

>whose entirety of posts toward myself were calling me a newfag or cuckchanner

Something about crying out in pain as they strike you?

>>15268391

I dunno, its an okay game, I like it.

Coudnt beat the first elite enemy though because im a shitter.

>>15268805

Who reallllly died that day

>>15268703

It's the best attempt at making roguelite meme since BOI work so far. Being for over a year in EA also means it has plenty of content to back replayability up with.

If you can stomach visuals that is.

Roguelite just means shitty facsimile of a video game and also now pay for it.

@15268936

Posts shitting on entire genres are shitty fascimiles of a post and also expect (you)s but in this case you're not getting one.

>>15268805

>(12) posts of BUTTHURT

it gets boring after a while just like every rogue lite. im waitin on deaths gambit

>>15268972

>that reply

>thinking "(You)s" are an upvote

Go back to cuckchan.

so based on the shilling being tried here I'm guessing it's garbage?

>>15269130

Wrong game.

>>15269240

This is what every thread about a new release of a game is like on /v/ if the game in question has no preceding reputation or hype surrounding it or if OP is too much of a faggot. The Kingdom Come threads were like this too at release, until everyone's torrents finished downloading and people talking about off-topic stuff were drowned out by people actually playing the game.

>>15269240

It's not as amazing as the shills or the "super rogue metroidvania" buzzwords want you to think, but it's alright assuming you're not one of those autists who screech about muh graphics over gameplay.

>>15268703

it's still unfinished,so no

>The dark-souls of rogue-like metroid-vanias

I purchased it when it barely had a first stage, and let me tell you , its still shit and i don't feel like i ever got those 10 bucks worth of gameplay, at its current lenght its about a third or less of what i would expect of an indie castlevania game, and the few boss fights make the eventually boring traverse through the levels feel unrewarded.

>>15269240

you've hit it right on the head, anon

Bump

>>15268609

>cute geeky girl with glasses

So glad I married one.

>>15273922

prove it fag

I just beat it twice (2cells so far) and Im wondering if there's a secret boss at 5 cells

>>15273922

Post her thighs

Tried salvaging game topic by creating new thread >>15274898, but was told by fagmod to use this abomination of a shit thread.

I wouldn't use this fucked thread to save the world. Will just let it die and find my vidya resources elsewhere.

hey kuchera, how is the shilling going? Making good money here.

>>15275172

Too tedious since I only browse 8chan in incognito mode which auto-clears cookies.

>>15275194

But, honestly, if the mods just did their jobs, there wouldn't be a problem. Therefore, I will just say fuck it and let this thread die the slow, horrible death it deserves.

>>15268735

A fine fate for a shill thread, if you asked me.

>>15275228

>I played it in EA in January and I doubt they've added enough new shit to stave off my boredom with the game.

You are missing the castle, The Hand of the King boss fight, a fuckload of new modifiers, some new weapons, more cells difficulties…

>>15268735

>49 replies and still no discussion of the vidya

You can thank the fagmods for this. They sit at their computers all day "moderating" 24/7, but they can't actually janny worth dick.

>>15275374

No.

>>15275381

no x 2

>>15275387

Holy shit haven't seen this guy in i don't know how long

>>15275390

Just stick to smaller boards. The discussion there is a lot more focused.

>>15275390

The problem comes from faggots that ask for magnet when they could look for it themselves instead of asking ot be spoonfed with the excuse of "If you don't do this you are a shill".

It doesn't help that most faggots here have a hateboner for anything that looks like it contains pixels/indie thus instantly calling it shit without trying it or at least watching some gameplay, add bonus points for roguelites since, again, most niggers here can't stand that.

I doubt this thread can be salvaged at all.

In my opinion the best roguelites we have so far has been Dead Cells, Enter the Gungeon and Crypt of the Necrodancer.

>>15275422

I'd fuck that outfit in the last pic.

It's a fun game. I got it during a steam sale. Smooth combat and movement, tons of weapons that all feel really different. The only thing that kind of blows is the enemy variety.

>>15275446

And how you obtain the rare blueprints being just a grind and luck of certain enemies. Although there's a mod to fix that issue.

Now that the game has official mod support we're getting a lot of shit to get into the game and salty faggots crying that their achievements mean nothing when some mods make some achievos easier as well.

So is this shit at least better than Hollow Knight? Should I scurve it?

>>15275481

In my opinion it's better but taste is subjective. Juts give it a try. Hollow Knight is not a roguelite, Dead Cells is.

>>15275481

It's okay but not even close to Hollow Knight unless you're a 14 year old whose adrenalin skyrockets when they get to see enemies explode in flashy colors with little effort.

>>15275532

I tried creating a new bread >>15274898, but fagmods locked it and said to use this cancerous loaf

>>15268391

>dead cells

more like incels..ha.ha..ha..ill now go kms

>shills are still frustrated that they cannot delete this thread to hide the shame

You own marketers said it: If the anon isnt interested in spending money on this pixelshit, then "they don't matter anyways" ->>15268434

Here's an archive, just in case this turns into a debacle like the midair threads.

http://archive.fo/L35gC

>>15275600

>(14)

For someone who hates this game sooo muuuch you sure like to lounge around posting in this thread.

>shit game

>blatant shilling

>reddit fingerprint everywhere

2D soulsvania are dime a dozen and get their profit from early access fools.

>>15275640

But this game is not in early access anon. Where is the shilling? Talking about a game is shilling? This is some /pol/tier of retardation where you only close your eyes and shout at everything.

>>15275654

i've seen almost non-stop shilling for this game, i'm not sure why you're trying to deny it

>>15268590

The same retard that a while back downvoted a game because behind the localization there wasn't "the competent" nintendo threehouse?

>>15275654

>pretending this wasn't another early access scam for years

Get out kike

>>15275665

>downvoted

Hello fellow /v/edditor

>>15275654

Even OP's in it

Oh and yeah, it's weird. Hollow Knight had much larger shilling campaign here, but not nearly as large push back.

Unless it's some one autistic anon going out of his way to shit on DC.

sage for double post

>>15275747

Kneejerk reaction to 2d art that isn't 1:1 8bit pixels, hating something because other people hate it, desperate attempt trying to fit in, comparing it against proper metroidvanias instead of procgen roguewhatevers, failing to understand that some games actually come out of early access, etc.

>>15275792

It's actually fun though.

I don't have much of an opinion about the game but this fucking awful thread full of faggots unironically using the term 'hater' is a big red flag.

>>15276832

You know it's 3D models with pixels on top of it, right? Watch the game in motion, it's much different.

>>15276832

is it even claiming to be retro or are you just going out of your way to trick yourself into being more homosexual than usual?

polygone

>>15275132

is that really the only criticism you can come up with on a pixelshit 2d sidescrolling generic metroidvania game with simple combat?

bump

>>15276832

Look I understand the pixelshit stereotype as it enables even the most braindead of developers to create a 2 hour shitfest of a game.

But to judge a game solely on how it looks is very shallow and you should consider that there are other things that make a game great.

You know, like game mechanics.

>>15278374

If average /v/ poster cared about gameplay mechanics there wouldn't be any nintendo or bethesda threads.

>>15268391

I dunno, where's the magnet, shill?

>>15276832

>Maybe I am the faggot here

Watch out, it's becoming self aware.

It's low-res prerendered 3D. If this game is pixelshit then so is donkey kong country.

Maybe at least look at a gameplay video instead of going off a couple screenshots like a fucking goldfish next time. Now everyone knows your opinions are worthless.

>>15278523

google.com

>>15278523

nigger

>>15278523

motherless.com

This game isn't even worth a pirate imo, gets repetitive fast

>>15278523

ctrl+F

>>15275792

DELET YOUR POST

If you don't pay for pixel shit you're racist sexist bigot!

>>15279333

It's dolphin porn, don't download it.

>>15279348

Its dolphin porn? I'm downloading this shit right away!

>>15268391

pixelshit

>>15268510

>ID hopping

as if anyone could be bothered

>hater

get in your grave

>>15279333

Good triple.

Seems legit.

Just stopping by to see if this thread has been cured of its cancer yet.

Looks like it hasn't.

Will check back tomorrow.

>>15279809

Your retard spacing doesn't help either fag.

>>15280137

You keep at it.

>>15281091

You have unfinished Early Access version.

Now it's feature complete and has actual ending.

so now that we have a magnet can we talk about the game?

Is there any point in beating again with more cells? is there any more content? or is it just rehashing the content with artificial difficulty? (just tuning up enemy damage and lowering your checkpoints)

>>15281118

Anon thats not released. Thats finished.

The game has been released for months, its already made an impact. Arbitrarily saying it's now feature complete while still having a version number tacked on is stupid because I promise you updates will come that add more stuff.

>>15281138

Are you arguing semantics over this?

By that logic no game is ever finished EVER.

>>15281134

>Artificial difficulty

Oh boy.

>>15280137

pixels r gud - it's the "games" they code around them that suck mah boi.

>>15281180

want i want, is a proper metal slug 4 (clone) - not that korean cancer from )))playmore(((

>>15276860

>>15278779

Frankly that's worse. Good pixel art is way better than the halfway point between sprite and model. I'd take Metal Slug over DKC any day.

>>15281138

>release tech demo of game where you jump around in an test room

>3 years later release finished game with all features added and 80 levels and a story

>retard thinks the tech demo was the finished release and the new one is a bonus update

One thing I really don't like is how the more you unlock the rarer useful items get. Most of the items are just garbage to pollute the loot lists. It would be nice if there were some way to turn off any unlocked gear, that way you wouldn't feel penalized for buying it and then finding out it's shit.

Personal build: infantry bow+cudgel (shield). Bow does more damage than most melee weapons at melee range thanks to the guaranteed crit, with a faster initial hit and the potential of using it at ranged, all on red/brutality upgrades which are essential for damaging mutations. Shield doesn't see much use outside of bosses and specific enemies, but it completely shuts down enemies when it needs to thanks to its stun effect. Everything else I've unlocked is just instant trash.

>>15279348

>tfw it's not dolphin porn

god damn it

>>15281927

I wish we could remove from the pool some items like Crypt of the Necrodancer let us.

Some items like Spartan boots are just garbage. For builds I would recommend a melee weapon of your choice with 3 items that gives you -X% damage taken such as freezing bow, some shields, active skills like vampirism or tonic can have as modifier +35% max HP healing on use which can be used once per stage.

>>15268391

>Was it worth the wait?

From what I've seen there are still enemies that can hopelessly stunlock you if you get caught between them and another enemy or a wall, and the glitch where parries don't stun enemies is still there so

No.

>>15282536

The Infantry Bow serves as a melee weapon. The only drawback is you CAN run out of ammo especially on bosses, and it doesn't have penetration by default. Ammo does return after a set amount of time if you don't kill the enemy, so it still works against bosses as your only weapon. With the 2x ammo mutation assuming you aren't able to spam non-stop (because you are dodging and shit) you probably wont run out. It's an amazing weapon on trash, you can 1-2 shot everything and it has basically no windup, so just walk up and shoot and move on, great for timed door runs.

>>15282536

what are you talking about? The spartan boots are awesome.

>kick enemies into a wall, they're either dead or near dead and stunned

>kick them off a platform and the same, but now you have a clear platform and maybe something to stomp on

The assault shield and impaler are the only things I have so far that do anything similar, and they only do one or the other. You could clear the whole game with a tier one boot and no damage buffs if bosses didn't exist.

>>15283880

Bosses is the single one thread in the entire game to begin with.

>>15284177

*threat

>>15283880

The assault shield is the best support item in the game. It had an easier parry window, can punt enemies off ledges, and works as a movement tool.

>>15282892

The infantry bow and pyrotechnics easily tie for thd best ranged weapon in the game. Honorable mention to all three charging crossbows.

>>15281091

>What? Its been released for a while

Shht, the shills are pretending this early access scam is magically honest after release. They will say the same about Scam Yiddizen

>>15268528

>muh horseshoe theory.

>How dare you have an imageboard culture and exposing me as a filthy normalfag.

Like he said fuck off.

>>15284851

>game's quality is measured by waifus and furshit and not gameplay

The absolute state of /v/

>>15285215

Hi, goon

>>15285018

>>15285215

>casual organic poster of a metroidvania thread

>has no idea of what Rabi Ribi is like

Goons and shills

One of my favorite roguelikelite whatevers. Combat is fast, fun, controls are smooth, movement is fast and fun, only thing I dislike is the Forge system, since you can only add to it after bosses and bosses only give one amount of souls every time, and you can't stack up souls between levels or the guy won't let you through the door.

>>15285215

>never played rabi ribi

<it's trash anine shit, play an eroge instead incels!

Your ten dollars, never to be returned.

The game is pretty shit, after finally downloading and playing

And by the game, I am meaning shit cells.

>>15285275

>Nigga, you can break the door. Try hitting it.

I want to cry

>>15285371

I'm playing on PC controller myself, have you tried one and how are you liking kb controls?

>>15285419

Infection, that's probably the malaise thing? I only got some of it during the castle. I had to restart over yesterday for the full release since past saves wouldn't transfer.

Also do you know what's up with the doors around everywhere you can knock? In the early versions I thought it just wasn't a feature yet, but no doorbanging has lead to anything in this version either.

>>15285506

You unlock them on new game + cycles.

>>15285371

>polluting your loot pool with trash items

shiggy diggy

>>15285215

>that poorly cropped reaction image belonging to cuckchan

>getting triggered by definitions

>not liking rabi ribi

you're a faggot

To rebuke you, mechanics, frame data, speed are not changed in higher difficulty. The organic difficulty of the gameplay is the same. The only thing that is change is tweaking enemies to hit harder gameplay-wise, ergo difficulty is artificially increased instead of a tasteful or actually engaging manner. It's artificial. The rest of the changes are merely structural changes that take no effort to do, and hardly change anything besides turn the meta into a slow and campy playstyle of staying away and abusing slow/freeze/ +% damage when x reforges along with ENCOURAGING GRINDING on the blacksmith or upgrades

It is artificial difficulty. You're a gargantuan mongoloid for not comprehending it

Is there some special trick to this game or is it just git gud etc.

In this new build I can get to the Hand of King every time, even with just three potions, but I just can't beat it, there's so much going on. Someone said something about tank builds and so on, how xactly do you do a build in rng game?

>>15286467

Interesting. I've up until now only focused on offense, mostly by getting the most high damage throwers (sinew slicer, double crossbow thrower) as a back up, and maining impaler or assasing's dagger with a most likely support of Ice brand as a second. Is focusing on just one weapon and building evertyhing else up as a -% damage or health drain bonus really that good? I've been on maximun damage output mode myself, even if better weapons give me more damage %

>>15286737

Autistic walls of text are always useful, anon. Thanks

>>15281091

what's bigger, the pile of embarassed marcille or smug nagatoro?

>>15285275

>fanservice

>nigga

You stick out son

>>15286644

If you haven't seen the heavy turret yet, it's a fucking thing of beauty. Not only can in chain-stun enemies and absolutely ream anything it hits, it also boosts your damage for being near it and has considerably more health than any other turrets. Load up with pyrotechnics or an alchemist's pistol as your main weapon, a hokuto's bow (risky) or assault shield (tanky), and two heavy turrets with pierce or more damage for burn/poison. Only the Hand of the King, Lancer clusterfucks, and big eyeball faggot are half a challenge.

>>15287286

I think I had heavy turret in previous playthrughs, never really ran into them. Hand of the King is my only challenge left at this point so I'll keep an eye out for the drop.

bump

bump

>>15288502

>>15289558

(we're totally not shills guys)

Talk about the game or let the thread die already, don't just fucking "bump" you faggots.

>>15291101

That's actually just a random image I found on Google after searching for "Hand of the King", but your advice is still pretty good anyway.

Would you recommend focusing on two stats, or evenly spreading points throughout all the stats?

>>15291057

There are two optimal builds in this game

1.- Brutality with 2 grenades, grenade cooldown talent, sadism and X

Sadism synergizes with burning. Go 1 grenade for the fire grenade and reforge to +100% more damage on burning targets. Second grenade can be Freeze Grenade if you don't go Ice bow for secondary wep to apply slow.

Main wep should be Impaler (excellent frame data), Frantic Sword (good crit mechanic, also make sure it has +20% crit), Balanced Blade, Swift Sword or you can also go for the molotov throw whatever the fuck that weapon is. The build you're showing is legit, but they should for power grenades instead of baby grenades that build he just throws grenades and molotovs and reapplies slow from far away.

2.- Second build is tactician. Go for endless bow and arrow, nerves of steel (best), or whatever strong damage dealing bow. You want deployable traps, and instead of grenade cooldown mutation you go for the Trap cooldown reduction mutation. Esentially the same but ranged, and with turrets instead of grenades. Your bow should leave a trail of flames and everything should have +100% damage on burning. Secondary weapon being something that sets on fire also works. This build is easier and does more damage but you have to get lucky rng with more items than just the melee weapon, making it harder to set up

>>15291101

You can apply slow then dot the enemy just fine. It doesnt remove the dots if you apply freeze first.

>>15291238

Always focus on your damage dealing stat. you will get upgrades that are Tactician/survival that won't have the one you're stacking, when you get those just go for whatever gives more HP increase

>>15291238

Focus on one, on your primary weapon that you have chosen and the rest supportive items unless you have a specific build where all the items are from the same colour like the turrets + bow builds.

There was this guy that found out that the less scrolls that you have the less damage the enemies dealt to you, however I have not tested that theory nor I like to take a hundred years to kill something even if they deal little damage to me because even if I run a tank build myself I still deal massive damage thanks to focusing in one stat.

When a scroll appears without the option of your colour, just go ahead with the one that gives you the highest HP %.

>>15291491

Weapons that you should ignore

Anything with bad frame data, that is bad mid-air, that has a lot of startup or a lot of lag . You don't want to let the enemies attack you.

Avoid the following:

Broadsword

The 2h Mace thing mallet

Twin Daggers

Twin Spear from the hand of the king (its shit), in general avoid all spears that are not The impaler

any bow that has little ammo and is not the Ice Bow

the boomerang unless you have +3 ammo as a reforge.

The Worms grenade

The Survival traps are usually SHIT

The assassin's dagger is ONLY good if you have +175% on frozen targets/ +75% on slowed targets +20% critical hit damage and a Freeze Grenade or Ice bow, preferably the bow. The sub-zero freeze hadouken is not as good as the icebow but it is a viable option if you find it to replace the ice bow. Freeze/slow and burning are the best two debuffs to have on your enemies because of the synergy with the reforges and Sadism. having the reforge Poisons the enemy and +50% on poisoned targets is optimal, but really have to be lucky with rng. this is why your reforging in your secondary weapon should be the application (burning,poison) and your main weapon the damage dealer. if you happen to have some random bow, you can use it to get good reforges to get a build going until you find a legendary.

>>15291573

Also, never go for a crit build. They're not consistent. The only consistent and reliable crit for bosses (The Hand of the King, which the only hard thing about this game and after 2 cells you building for that boss will be the meta) is the assassin's dagger or Frantic Sword.

i get why fags dont wanna unlock all the shit but im having fun trying out all the different weapons. throwing kunai twice to bleed the enemy that spreads out to nearby enemies and finishing them off with quick bow made for a good run. quick bow does crit whenever an enemy has two projectiles on their bodies so i was raping especially with sadism, velocity and ammox2

>>15291582

Pyrotechnics, two heavy turrets, and a shield or Hokuto's bow will solve every hand-related problem you face. Even better if they can put oil on him somehow for extra crits, or if you have an amulet with extra jumps.

>>15291662

You're gonna regret that after finding the hammer of useless dogshit++ on every second run. Holy shit does everything about that weapon combine to make it useless.

>>15280137

whats some good soulsvania?

I'm a bit late here as I only started earlier today, but I've killed the final boss now so I think I've got a handle on what this game did right and wrong.

>It has fast paced combat that rewards killing enemies back to back.

>Fun items, useful status effects, and monsters can be killed using the environment all make the combat feel good. There's a lot of attention to the little details in combat like being able to use a shield parry to reverse projectile attacks. The combat feels very polished.

>non linear map progression for the most part

>the different levels are distinctive even though they're procedurally generated. Some are underground mazes like the sewer, but others are much more open like the village. Also, I really tend to like environments like the Ramparts and Clocktower.

>seems like all 3 of the stats are viable

<The unlock progression that stays between runs feels bad. It feels way too grindy to unlock anything, and really important stuff is gated there. For example, health is really hard to recover from just running around, but you get to carry an hp potion that heals you 2/3 of your hp. You can only drink once if you haven't farmed for more, but later on you can drink at least 4 times a section (I only got up to 3). Additionally, the store is how you do item unlocks, and they always lose out in priority to these passive buffs or mutations you can get for sure on every run. So you're going to be stuck using the starter items for quite some time, and once you start unlocking stuff it's not exactly clear what to get. You can't test move sets until you've already unlocked the weapon, and if you buy something that is shit it'll be forever in your loot pool. Also, because of the way the currency works (start with none, no save points, you drop it all if you die, invest little by little for the items between levels) you can't save, buy, test, and reload to see what works best.

<There is too much rng in the loot. Each weapon rolls for what weapon it is, rarity, level, and modifiers these can be rerolled between levels. On top of all that, the stat system locks you into a type of weapon, and you're going to suffer if you use a good weapon that falls outside what you specced for.

<The game is kind of buggy. Right before I got to the final boss one time I ran into a glitch where the game generated a map that couldn't be completed because my jump height was lower than the ledge I needed to get onto. I ended up using cheat engine to momentarily give myself infinite jumps, but otherwise I would have had to reset all my progress in a really disappointing way. On the other hand I also ran into a bug at the final boss that caused him to sit still for a good 5 or 6 seconds I think his AI wanted to charge attack me at the same time I threw a bear trap under him. So what should have just rooted him to the spot made him stand still flickering between two different animations. Throwing another bear trap under him reset the timer while keeping him in that state. If I had specced more into the purple stat to get my item cool down reduced further or if I had carried a second bear trap with me into the fight, then that could have acted as a perma stun. In fact, this bug occurred twice in the same fight.

<Weak soundtrack

<I was looking around online about some stuff, and I saw that enemies scale with the player. This is probably the most damning thing in the whole game. For every stat upgrade you grab you get 15% more damage with that weapon colour and an ever decreasing % starts at 40%/50%/60% and quickly works its way to the single digits increase to max health. All of these increases are multiplied on top of each other so you'd think your growth would always be pretty decent, but the enemies also get 9% attack and 7% more health for every stat point you collect. On top of that, if you start pumping a single stat and ignoring the others the game will start weighting your stat boosts towards a version that only lets you level up your other two stats. Early on the stat boosts for the player blow the enemies away, but once you go further on it's actually better to avoid stat increases at some points. For example: If you're only using red weapons, you'd eventually get to the point where a level in your red stat gives something like 15%damage / 1%hp increase. If you take that all monsters will get 9% more damage and 7% more hp. Thus, you'd be getting an effective 8%damage / -8%hp increase. However, if you've got more red than purple and green the game will weight your levels towards only being able to choose purple and green. If both of those are 0%damage (not using the weapon) / 8% hp increases, then once the monsters level up you'll get an effective -7% damage / -1%hp increase. The game only gets harder by taking that level up. This really shouldn't be a thing.

Sorry, I am pretty sure this turned into a wall of text at some point.

>>15292751

>Weak soundtrack

I actually like it

>Pool polluted with bad items that you have to try out

Yes that's bad and I wish we had the option like in Crypt of the Necrodancer to clean those items from the pool.

About the potion being 4 uses per stage, that's at the start of the game. At 2 Cells you can only recover potion uses every 2-3 areas, at 3 and 4 Cells you can't recover potion uses.

>RNG in the loot

Nothing wrong with that, it's a roguelite and most of these you are suppossed to adapt to what the game gives you. I can see some people disliking it though.

>My jump was lower

Did you try rolling mid air or doing any wall running? Did you try using any of the doors that teleport you to different points of the map at the castle? I have never seen the Hand getting bugged, that's some weird ass shit.

>The scroll system

I already mentioned it before, but it's still better to keep stacking damage for yourself even if they get more HP and damage. You can mitigate their damage or avoid it completely but regardless of what you do, not grabbing more damage will hurt you in the long run making certain fights last too long. However I agree that they should change how enemies "evolve" by the tier of the area instead of scrolls used because it's counter intuitive and only seem to help speedrunners.

>>15291582

>Crit builds are not consistent

>Only daggers and Frantic sword

You're forgetting longbow, explosive crossbow and inf bow

>>15291573

Hokuto's bow has low ammo count but it's truly great since it gives extra damage and grants you -X% damage taken.

>>15293186

Hokuto's bow isn't realy a weapon, though it is a great utility. Also, the longbow just isn't that great, what with its startup time and finicky crit condition. It's much easier to get close to an enemy than keep away from bosses who bounce around in tiny arenas.

>>15281148

???

Anon games were finished all the time not long ago. You know, before the ability to update via the internet was a thing, people actually had to make sure their shit was complete and in a ready to ship state before making money off it.

>>15281921

If they asked for money, then yes it was.

>>15286867

Marcille.

>>15293186

>Did you try rolling mid air or doing any wall running? Did you try using any of the doors that teleport you to different points of the map at the castle? I have never seen the Hand getting bugged, that's some weird ass shit.

Yeah, I tried everything with the high wall bug. Unfortunately, I never did unlock the rune for wall running. Looking it up online also had other people reporting on similar issues, so I am pretty sure it's not just me being retarded. You might not use the hunter's trap enough to see the hand bug out because of it. They felt kind of awkward to me at first, but I ended up sticking with them in that run because I never did find anything I liked.

>>15293559

Hunter's Trap behaves in a weird manner, you can catch the bridge boss mid air on it and make it look like he's still trying to fall.

Probably the game expects you to have the wall run rune for the castle since you should be dying left and right till you get the hang of it. That's bad design right there.

>>15293294

>If they asked for money, then yes it was

It's called early access for a reason. If you don't like it, then stop fucking buying into it so you don't have to redefine the meaning of "finished".

>>15296136

Most probably because you have no weapon and only fucking turrets, plus you have used the scrolls for HP and not damage.

Seriously, if you build like this you have to expect to deal low DPS.

>>15300322

Please consider the following:

>This game has been in EA since 2016

>This game has been shilled by streamfags and jewtube ecelebs alike leading up to release

Also pay attention to the shill OP who said "if you haven't bought the game nor have immediate plans to, you don't matter"

>>15301975

dont reply to the D&C shitposters, there is a good reason activity fell to new lows and you see nothing but these retarded goons here, its literally all they do.

>>15293186

those bows are all suboptimal compared to other weapons anyway. Nerves of Steel is the only good bow crit-wise, both consistency, damage and ammo

Longbow is shit for bosses

>>15291747

the hammer is default, you don't unlock it

>>15268703

Enough content to clock 30 hours and have a good time, but Id say either wait for more content or find a magnet

You guys are really fucking retarded, are you new to imageboards or what? Report / Ignore, talk about the game and move the fucking on. It has been like that since newfags learnt the word "shill", it was the same when they learnt the word "cuck", everything is [new word].

>>15302234

Come on now, longbow is great for bosses as long as you have a set up to support it with. Such as hard CC shit, that's how I kept getting the first two bosses at bay without taking a hit, I admit that against the Hand it's quite iffy.

>>15302244

Always, ALWAYS find a magnet before buying a game. This shit ass industry doesn't give demos anymore, it pisses me off. About the hours I would dare say around 50, but not much more than that unless you're a diehard fan of the genre.

Bump

>>15308462

>>15305070

>contentless bumps from (1)s

>t-there are no astroturfers you guys, this thread is just full of genuine interest!

>>15308482

Who are you quoting?

>>15309911

Enjoy all the 12 year olds who can't handle being called a nigger, nigger.

>>15309911

>fun threads where people can joke around

This makes hate within me.

>>15309911

wew

>>15309911

agreed tbh

this place is shit

good shitposts contribute greatly to the quality of any board. They're an integral part of imageboard culture.

>>15316108

Am I missing something or broad sword is just trash? No matter what possible stats it can have, slow weapons in this game just don't work?

Unless you run some mod for them.

Speaking of, what are your favourite mods?

I found myself enjoying 10x mod a lot more than I probably should.

>>15279333

I could have sworn it use to be expected for threads talking about specific games to have a magnet link, for OP's to be called shills if they didn't provide one.

>shills ignored

>baiting becomes insults

F R U S T R A T I O N

>>15317096

>halfchan roleplaying a nigger

Checks out

>>15316108

>paying 25$ for indie pixelshit

>omg so random difficulsh

Or you could play a fully complete platformer from years back that doesn't scam you out the ass

>>15302155

>>15309911

>halfchan posters coming onto 8ch and bringing their halfchan influence with then

>go into threads and complain about how 8ch is worse than halfchan despite being the main source of the problem

Also if you have honestly checked out halfchan lately and you think it's superior to 8ch you really need to get the fuck out of here.

i think this game looks cool. still havent tried it though

>>15317069

The broad sword absolutely sucks and I only use it if I have the means to freeze enemies. However, if I ever start out with the nutcracker, I will pick up the first broad sword I see because the nutcracker sucks even worse.

>>15317603

Is the throne room the final boss or any boss at all? If so, you have mutations that probably won't do you any good. You can reset your mutations for a price prior to each stage.

>Mixed pixel sizes.

Why do people do this?

>>15317747

You can enable pixelated font in the options.

>>15317741

There is final boss and I totally fucking forgot to switch my mutations yeah.

Support would help a lot with final boss.

>>15317770

Did you ever beat the boss? I got to him just a bit a ago and was utterly obliterated. Had all kinds of -X% Damage buffs and a colorless assassin dagger (I think that's what it's called). I will keep trying, but this die-and-start-from-the-beginning bullshit might make this game yet another that I don't feel like beating.

>>15322363

Agreed, the last boss doesn't feel right with the game plus 4 cells makes the game feel really bad if you want to play melee forcing you to cheese your way out.

To be honest the game is good but the last difficulty and the last boss need to be worked on.

>still shilling for kike sales

When did cuckchan take over?

>>15322039

Go back to getting raped by your local priest faggot.

bump

great pixels don't mean shit. most of these games are dung of the lowest caliber.

i tried all of those rips, and they mostly all suck. stick with metal slug 1-3. that was done right.

if it's on unity, expect no controls or gameplay whatsoever, that's my motto. they only copied the looks of the snes, but not it's controls, and we all know that controls make or brake any game. especially on pc where you play with keyboard and mouse, not a fucking controller. this is not a console, despite what bs microsoft sold you.

>>15329841

console games and pc games do not mix. and these games are the living proof of that.

>>15321776

>/pol/ and /christian/ are normalfags

Another brainwashed leftist who believes hes fighting the man, when every single corporation and think tank is on his side

>>15329979

he's not wrong though, both boards see being a normalfag as the only objective in life and anything else is bread and circus.

Normalfags =/= Degenerates, Degenerates = Normalfags

>>15329510

Those mutators are:

Healing upon curse lifting

x2 Bow Ammo

+30% Max HP

In that order and yes, I do remember the threads of this game when it was on EA, the shitposting wasn't this massive. It doesn't help that fucking Mark didn't let someone else make a new thread that would be properly cleansed from this faggotry.

>>15329841

The controls are great and responsive you nigger, yes I play with keyboard. Try harder next time.

>>15332527

>Those mutators are

I know. I meant it like "WTF is this nigger doing with those shitty mutations and still destroying HotK"

>>15329847

>>15329847

Ever played Hollow Knight? DC is a different beast but there is a reason those games were compared to each other all the time. (hint: they're both bretty gud)

>>15329841

Unity is a fine engine it's just that complete retards keep using to develop indieshit.

>>15340257

I disagree.

I haven't seen a game on unity that doesn't suck ass technically.

>>15343881

Do you think it's impossible to make a good game on Unity, then? Or has it just not been done yet, in your opinion?

>>15345928

It boils down to dev's attitude.

Lazy fucks go for unity, and of course they will never make a good game.

People that care about their product won't use unity in the first place.

So unity itself is a red flag for shitty devs that make shitty games.

>>15347430

What about Unity makes it good for the lazy, though? I'd assume it takes as much time to familiarize yourself with any game development kit and UE has been around longer.

Plus, you get shit like PUBG and DayZ as outliers to the trend you point towards.

>>15347797

It's super easy to puck up and go. You don't need to know coding at all to make some functional shit in it.

>>15348186

I understand it lowers the bar for idiots to get into game development, but shouldn't making programing easier for the people who already make good games be a good thing?

>>15348257

>people who already make good games

They just make their own engine or use one that is not shit, even if it's not as accessible.

Am i the only one who thinks the real king is the dead giant at the beginning of the game?

Did you know you can use the standard equipment even if you buy the random equipment modifier?

One think i really want is be able to use more than three mutations at once

>>15349472

tl;dr Rusty sword is actually the best sword in the game, no joking.

The only problem is that you can't get it at higher levels with better affixes.

If that thing could drop as legendary, i.e. just like any other sword, it would be fucking game breaker.

>>15361302

Rusty Sword has good frame data. its better than the balanced sword or Frantic sword in frame data as a sword. It has a little forward momentum when used and its good in the air. It's better to grab the rusty sword than some shit 2h or spear if you're too lazy to restart to reroll starter items

>>15361438

It's got GODLY frame data as well as crazy damage putting most enemies into stun state real fast. It starts to fall off real quick though, that's the problem.

I got through the game with it on 0 and 1 cells no problem, but after that it just doesn't hold up after a zone or two, even with maxed forge.

>>15284851

I fucking love Rabi-Ribi. The sequel is shaping up to be interesting as well.

>>15361680

>mixed pixels sizes

this song is great