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WHERE THE FUCK IS 7?

>>15234961

but yeah the whole trilogy is great, I can't decide between 5 and Zero myself. They're both amazing games that have tons of love and care put into them.

I want AC3 physics back. I want to engage in actual dogfighting like in 3, with energy trapping and controlled stalling. I'm fed up of the starter plane being as good as the last one you get. I'm fed up just holding the stick and launching two missiles when I hear tone. I feel like I could play 4/5/6 blindfolded at this point.

>>15234961

i played a shit ton of infinity, it was hard to get into since you start with a shitty plane and the missions dont give enough credits to upgrade or buy a better plane. so the grind was bad. but it had a cool campaign at least. also they put all the iconic plains and missions in there, so you can replay Excalibur or Stonehenge in modern AC game.

>>15235429

i really wish they'd remake that and give it a proper translation.

>>15234980

Delayed to next year

>>15234961

I hope we get AC3-style branching paths, as well as a few sexy prototype fighters

also considering the game features a space elevator front and center, some extreme altitude/LEO missions would be neat as fuck

>>15235576

I'd rather wait until 2019 or whatever and get a 10/10 phenomenal game than have a mediocre unfinished mess pushed out early

quality takes time

I quit this game a year or so back. The many hours and real life cash I invested in it was a waste and a lesson learned…"Girl, don't hand over your hard-earned to a song-and-dance man".

>>15235429

AC3 was actually the only game in the series before Zero that I never played. Was it really that good? I honestly mostly remember AC2 just because the concept of advanced AI flying the planes, along with the introduction of the Falken, really caught my attention back then. I'm wondering why they never introduced another boss plane that can shoot machine guns and missiles behind it.

>>15235467

Damn, I'm actually pretty sad I missed that then. Just looked up more about it and I saw some gameplay of someone using the Falken to attack a larger version of the SOLG. The grind probably would've killed me since repeating the same missions tends to drain my soul. Just unlocking the alternate/superior versions of the planes by grinding them in 5 is a killjoy to me.

>>15235803

I'd love some high altitude missions as well and it's a prime opportunity for new prototype fighters since it would fit with the new altitudes. Might even just barely reach into space. Looking back, it was very rare for me to climb above 15k in the last games unless the chase just so happened to get me up there. All I know about 7 is that clouds will be more prominent and they cause instability and stealth in a plane, but can also cause stalling as well. Apparently the focus will also be a man vs machine sort of deal since advanced AI have dominated aerial superiority at this point. I hope they go with a ZOE approach with the prototype fighters, too. I'm praying they don't go with Assault Horizon's shitty dogfight mode and I can't believe they were stupid enough to include that in the AC2 remake. Made ZOE even more embarrassing.

>>15236283

It's almost bizzare what tech AC3 had that they scrapped; for instance in AC3 enemy missiles can re-lock if you move back into their path after evading them, no other AC games have this.

>>15241745

Pure coincidence

>>15241783

>cutting out the best part

Anyone who thinks 5 can even barely stand up to 4 or 0 has objectively shit taste. Fuck the "Holy Trinity", 4 > 3 > 0

>>15242243

>Anyone who thinks 5 can even barely stand up to 4 or 0 has objectively shit taste

THANK YOU.

>>15242243

Being this irrefutably wrong. Impressive.

>>15242243

CUM HISTORIA

>>15252785

More like dum historia

>>15252959

*Novel

>>15252959

>civilian air liners can land but then it turns out they're military transports, like something our of a Clancy movie.

That's a fucking war crime.

>>15237420

They should add it back for 7. Would make sense storywise at least due to it being only 20 years before 3.

>>15252978

Still my favorite mission because you were expecting an air battle so you pack multi AA missiles but then the tanks start rolling onto the run way and multi-ATGs work wonders on tanks in formation.

>>15252959

>mission 12b

>mission 19 not even barely challenging while the radio chatter complains it's too challenging

>branching missions only prompted by some stupid, inconsequential question

>plethora of awful escort missions

>needlessly complex war with no clear motives of either side

>constant failure at developing characters who are insignificant to the plot

>story based around constant, predictable twists, with long cutscenes to explain everything

>10 missions longer than 4 or 0

As opposed to 4:

>only one boring mission (13)

>no branching missions, only need to play once to see everything

>very clear conflict which reflects real world politics (refugees)

>only 2 characters in entire story, which directly ties into the player's actions

>player plays through entire war, needing no extra exposition dumps

>short enough to play in one sitting

>>15253012

Except air/land battles make no difference in these games, since the whole game can be played with the standard missiles

Did Belka do anything wrong

>>15253098

>needlessly complex war with no clear motives of either side

That's kind of the point. Both sides are getting played. The people behind it all want everyone to be confused.

>only 2 characters in entire story

>short enough to play in one sitting

You say these like they're inherently good things.

>Except air/land battles make no difference in these games, since the whole game can be played with the standard missiles

True, but dedicated ground-attack weapons are significantly more efficient. You also need the standard missiles for dogfights, so you can't afford to use too many of them on ground targets.

>>15253132

>I don't like some of the expressions Pixy's actor made, always felt really forced and weird.

That probably happened because the voice acting is dubbed over, so the FMV actor is trying to match his expressions to the voice acting.

>>15253213

They lost.

>>15253231

>looks at the camera while smilling

>looks downcast

>looks back to the camera in less than a second as if nothing happened

Yeah nah, it's weird as fuck and has nothing to do with the dub.

>>15236283

at least it wasn't as bad in the AC2 remake, you could beat the game without using the win button

AH was inexcusably bad though, the fucking final boss was just a series of QTEs

PA of all studios should know better

>>15242243(You)

GOD IM DYING TO PLAY AC7

>>15254848

Just play the project wingman demo again.

>>15252978

So is 11B with gassing civilian targets

>>15272699

Not sure what your pic means.

The demo I referenced is here:

https://rb-d2.itch.io/wingman

>>15242243

>Anyone who thinks 5 can even barely stand up to 4 or 0 has objectively shit taste.

CUM

>>15272723

Yeah, that's true.

Also, according to that mission, Osean cops apparently get to keep anti-tank rifles at home.

>>15262145

>>15275759

I really, really hope Project Wingman eventually gets a mission editor. The wasted potential of Vector Thrust still gets to me.

I also hope PW gets rid of those horrid filters on the voice acting. Right now, everyone on the radio sounds like they're inside a Pringles tube. I can't understand a thing without the subtitles, and I hate having to use subtitles.

>Still no release date

2019 delay incoming.

>>15279003

they leaked it on their website by accident when the box art was copy right 2019.

>>15279098

Fucking hell man. A two year delay is absolute bullshit. They better have a good reason.

It's a shame games take so much time and money nowadays because it'd be fun to see spinoffs of Ace Combat. Like a game about the Idea War, with WWI planes, including ones that were prototypes or were seldom used and a huge amount of Paris Gun esque superweapons.

>>15242243

5 is the best part and you're a retard beyond down syndrome.

>>15253098

04 has the weakest story of them all. Mobius is literally treated as a demigod from the very first mission, not ro mention the irrelevance of anyone else's actions. Completely unearned.

>>15279719

the only good part of 5 was last 5 missions or so, the rest of it kind of sucked. I biggest problem with 5 was the AI being literally scripted paths.

>>15279649

I BET IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING VR, I BET SONY WON'T LET THEM RELEASE THE THING UNTIL THEIR STUPID GIMMICK IS FULLY OPERATIONAL

>>15275759

The guy asking for a tutorial and the music sounds like Nier Automata.

>>15279677

Spinoffs are one thing, but I just want to see more AC-style games in general.

>>15281966

(I'm the same poster, just not on mobile anymore)

I think there are plenty of semi-arcadey semi-realistic air combat games around, I just meant that the Strangereal setting is very interesting and ripe for more stories, even under different genres. I believe Namco was actually planning several spinoffs around 2007 but they got cancelled.

>>15282024

>I think there are plenty of semi-arcadey semi-realistic air combat games around

Really? I haven't seen any. Not with jets, anyway. Not with their own universe, either. I find that one of the things I like most about AC is that it doesn't take place in the real world. Using the real world as a setting has too much baggage and too many limits, whereas using a fictional world lets you do whatever you want.

>>15282068

There's HAWX 1 and 2, Sky Crawlers (made by the AC devs) and that's about it as far as I can remember. There was a bunch of extremely shitty PS2 games trying to ape AC but they're not worth mentioning.

>>15282068

Yeah, that's specifically why I'd like to explore Strangereal's past or see the conflicts from other perspectives. A WW2-esque AC would be fun too alternatively, we've already had WW2 planes in Infinity after all.

>>15282094

But there was no WW2 in Strangereal. The Belkan War was the first world war in the setting.

>>15282109

It doesn't have to be a world war, just a local conflict that uses WW2 technology. They can retcon things in all the time, every game takes place before AC3 after all.

>>15282143

>just a local conflict that uses WW2 technology

IIRC Belka had a civil war around that time.

>They can retcon things in all the time, every game takes place before AC3 after all.

None of the games were retcons, though. They simply filled the empty space between AC2 and AC3.

>>15282094

Yeah, that could be fun. I think I just kind of feel burned out on prop fighters because I spent a lot of time as a kid playing Aces of the Pacific, Aces over Europe, and Red Baron (with a lot of their realism settings turned off), and I never really played any jet games until I discovered AC because all I could find were hardcore sims.

>>15278983

>Vector thrust

I only bought into three early access shits, ever. This was one. Never again.

>>15283033

You could try making that request in a drawthread next time one pops up.

>>15282094

There's always Crimson Skies, which plays a lot like Sky Crawlers but with no dogfight mode bullshit, better plane customization, more dogfights and superplane boss battles and vastly superior writing.

>>15283140

> vastly superior writing

I watched the sky crawlers movie and thought it was great. Is the game story nothing like it?

>>15283146

It doesn't follow the movie at all. The writing isn't just bad, it's like they went out of their way to make you hate everything about the characters, the plot and the setting. They at least had the decency of ending the game with protag killing everybody but that doesn't excuse the entire rest of the game.

>>15283146

game story is what happens before the movie you play as the movie antagonist

>>15282991

I don't do early access as a rule, but I made an exception for VT because I really wanted to support it. As far as I know, it's literally the only AC-style game in existence that's also highly moddable and includes an editor.

Despite its other problems, VT actually gets the gameplay right for the most part. My only major complaint about the gameplay is that for some reason it uses a static gunsight and lead indicator as opposed to an LCOS system like AC, but that's something that could probably be fixed in a patch. All the game needs is some optimization, some fixes for the sounds, and a full campaign. And to finally add the F/A-18 as a playable aircraft. For some reason, the game has every plane you'd expect except for that one.

>>15283343

>>15283324

that sounds pretty cool

should I get a PS2 or a PSX bros

>>15284585

Aren't all PS2 models backward compatible (with the exception of a few games)?

>>15283556

>All the game needs is some optimization, some fixes for the sounds, and a full campaign.

Every tech demo would be great if it was polished and made into a full game.

>>15284637

I think so but there's usually some fucked up shit with backwards compatibilities

won't be able to get the actual games either so I'll need some way to play burned copies

>>15284691

You could buy a used fat or slim one with freemcboot.

>>15284585

PS2, no question. Best console of all time, and it also plays everything from the second-best console of all time, the PS1.

>>15284663

VT has enough in it that I think it qualifies as more than a tech demo. I won't say it fully qualifies as a finished product, either, but it's almost there. You could actually make a fully-featured campaign with its editor, it's just that no one really has.

>>15284691

>I think so but there's usually some fucked up shit with backwards compatibilities

Not really. The PS2 can play almost all PS1 games perfectly. There are some games that don't work, but most of them aren't games you'd really want to play anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

>>15293501

This genuinely breaks my heart. Rest in peace.

>>15293551

If only he had been named James.