b92509 No.15232724
Cyberpunk 2077 Will Be Political And Focus On Social Commentary, According To Quest Designer
A lot of gamers have realized that politics in video games have become a bane for the quality of the game itself. Almost every single recent game to dive head first into politics has turned out to be a ham-fisted, preachy piece of propaganda. Whenever a developer says their game will be “political”, most gamers retort with groans. Well, CD Projekt Red’s quest designer, Patrick Mills, has confirmed that Cyberpunk 2077 will be “inherently political” and that it will dive into sociopolitical commentary.
WCCF Tech picked up the quote from the recent interview Mills had with the Official Xbox Magazine, where the developer stated…
“Cyberpunk 2077 is a game about people with power at the top and people at the bottom with none”, he replied. “That power can come from money, hierarchies, technology and violence. The original Cyberpunk 2020 setting, like the setting of The Witcher stories, was a complex critique of the author’s world, and we don’t shy away from that in our games. On the contrary I think it’s one of the things that sets us apart […] Cyberpunk is an inherently political genre and it’s an inherently political franchise.”
This sent some shock waves through the community, as they were already on pins and needles after the trailer debuted at E3, which depicted a futuristic America that some gamers felt was a little too “diverse”.
Across the web, however, most gamers are expressing fear and apprehension at CD Projekt Red’s admission to diving into a politically themed universe within Cyberpunk 2077.
Nearly all things politics have become tainted in today’s media due to overt political propaganda pushed by Leftist media.
Games have become overrun with the SJW agenda to the point where many gamers find themselves passing up on some games altogether to avoid it, which is exactly what happened with Wolfenstein 2 and Mass Effect: Andromeda.
You’ll find some commenters trolling about the diversity issue in order to get normal gamers all riled up.
Some games like Shadowrun managed to cover various sociopolitical topic matter within the cyberpunk universe without upsetting most fans. Harebrained Schemes handled the political themes in a far more subtle manner within Shadowrun compared to their more overt politicization of Battletech.
In this case, however, CD Projekt really needs to tread carefully here because if word begins to spread that the game is going to be more Leftist agitprop, it could end up starving on the marketplace floor just like Battleborn and Lawbreakers.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/07/cyberpunk-2077-will-be-political-and-focus-on-social-commentary-according-to-quest-designer/65252/
90c990 No.15232730
>>15232724
Not even slightly surprised.
03bea5 No.15232733
Cyberpunk is anti-corporate/state by its very nature
ba8734 No.15232735
d516ab No.15232739
This is post "we won't downgrade on PC" and "We'll put out an SDK, we swear to God" CDPR, so don't get your hopes up for anything good.
90c990 No.15232740
>>15232735
This is actually important news though.
579de8 No.15232744
In other news the sky is blue.
d6f33f No.15232747
The quote is too vague to determine if it's politics within the world of the game itself (which is a matter of course for fucking cyberpunk) or straight up references to real world politics.
b67f9c No.15232752
>>1523272>>15232733
THIS It wouldn't be Cyberpunk without these elements.
We can only cross our fingers that it won't use too literal allegories or any SJW stuff but since it's current year +2 chances are slim
b92509 No.15232757
>>15232747
Need to google about that Patrick Mills guy, and research if he was hired around the time "current year" jokes were made in Witcher 3 DLCs.
f32d6d No.15232764
>>15232724
Well yeah no shit it's cyberpunk.
6022b7 No.15232788
>>15232724
There has been so much fud spread about this game where most of it has been a liberal amount of filling in blanks, misinterpretation and plain falsehood.
I'm just going to ignore any news about it now and simply judge the game when it's out
I'll shit on it when I can see the contents of the game and they're shoehorning shit where it doesn't belong.
8ca131 No.15232794
>>15232788
>I'll shit on it when I can see the contents of the game and they're shoehorning shit where it doesn't belong.
I fully agree with this since we'll know more when the game comes out if it's pozzed or not.
ab59bb No.15232812
I dont see how this is bad tbh
You cant make a cyberpunk without politics
7aa529 No.15232820
>>15232724
Reminder that CD Projekt is pozzed, case in point the recent twitter fiasco where they erased a comment that joked about gaming journalism because some people of the SJW clique complained about it.
Also I'm sure this hasn't been the first time they did something of this level of faggotry.
679e7f No.15232822
>>15232788
This. It's not cyberpunk without the option of sticking it to the man, but likewise there is always the option to sell out your soul and be the chromed fist of the establishment. I imagine they mean this when they speak of "politics", but since the world of Current Year +3 is a dystopian cyberpunk nightmare anyway, it's really easy to get carried away with speculation. I'll just wait for it to come out, pirate it and make my own conclusion about it.
10fef7 No.15232823
c2e4e2 No.15232831
>>15232757
I took a look at his Twitter he is ex-obsidian says he worked on NWN2 and Alpha Protocol. Most of his tweets are normal. Except for him re-tweeting someone celebrating "racists" getting banned from RB6:Siege and another person talking about transgender nonsense.
25fff8 No.15232832
>>15232724
Killing a game before the release… BRAVO! BRAVA!
59817e No.15232834
I'd play a cyberpunk game with social commentary if it was critical of corporate marxist liberals and the jews.
f23008 No.15232838
>>15232834
It'll just be a rag tag bunch of mixed race "individuals" fighting against right wing establishment corporations ran by white people who are oppressing them because they are afraid of the future.
6f2683 No.15232841
>>15232724
Ok fair enough, but isn't the genre of cyberpunk itself have inherent social commentary?
Games with politics ain't bad, games with current politics are the problem.
>some gamers felt was a little too “diverse”
I don't know man, in order to accuse the game of being "too diverse” you need to have a leg to stand on i.e they changed the race of a character(s), remember that it's based on a tabletop game. Also, you need to get out more because whether you like or not and especially if you live in a big city in America, that's the world we live in.
unless you mean that there aren't enough Asians because those will be the majority of the population by 2077
019b4e No.15232855
>Cyberpunk game is political
Wow
88d51a No.15232857
If there is any sort of SJW propaganda or feminist bullshit in the game Im gonna pirate it. If devs want to make less money with their game its not my problem.
f32d6d No.15232860
>>15232841
By 2077 non-Hispanic whites will be a minority in the US, possibly below 30% of the population, if anything, having a large amount of white people in Night City California would be unrealistic and unfaithful to the upcoming dystopian decline of the USA.
a34871 No.15232862
I warned you: Bringing politic in videogames wasn't a good idea
eda61d No.15232863
>>15232724
No fucking shit, it's cyberpunk.
ab59bb No.15232879
a34871 No.15232902
bc4e9f No.15232909
>A game featuring an inherently political genre will be political
Wow, who could have ever expected this? I bet the same people bitching about this, are the same people who bitched about the trailer being too bright because their idea of cyberpunk is limited to rainy nights drenched in a neon haze.
f23008 No.15232912
>>15232862
Where were you 20 years ago when westerners started doing it?
ab59bb No.15232913
>>15232902
I mean seriously, politics in games is a great way to deepen the world, make it more alive and make player more interested.
Take Fallout 1, 2 and NV for example, most of the world and quests is based around power struggles and politics
59817e No.15232917
>>15232860
Once the percentage goes very low I think we will see a huge self feeding decrease spiral. We're already seeing it in part but as the number of whites sink things will get exponentially worse and the number too will shrink exponentially. It will either end with complete genocide or exodus way before 2077. San Francisco is just a hint of the future once the US completes its transformation to third world shithole.
It will be a few jews living in shiny skyscrapers while the brown slave cattle roam the streets like zombies, subdued with drugs and hatred for one another.
f23008 No.15232918
>>15232913
politics is a hollow way to engage with the universe in games, rarely is it done well and most of the time it's used as shallow allegory. Western games are defined by their agenda pushing and always have been.
abeab7 No.15232919
>>15232831
>I took a look at his Twitter he is ex-obsidian says he worked on NWN2 and Alpha Protocol. Most of his tweets are normal. Except for him re-tweeting someone celebrating "racists" getting banned from RB6:Siege and another person talking about transgender nonsense.
Oh, just another moderate muslim then, hm?
2ff7be No.15232921
>>15232747
This is the same guy that said QA will help them find 'problematic content' and that 'California's ideals are important to us'.
f23008 No.15232922
>>15232918
oh and it ages like shit. anyone who has played THUG recently would know this.
dacba0 No.15232923
My honest opinion, these kind of news only serve the purpose to grow hype. Just like the FPView.
I'll shit on the game when i'll play it.
7aa529 No.15232925
>ITT: People ignoring that "politics" in Current Year vidya is a codeword for le drumpf and antifa virtual signalling
ab59bb No.15232927
>>15232918
>politics is a hollow way to engage with the universe in games
What do you mean? If you want a complex in game world you need to have power dynamics and politics, there is no avoiding it as politics is almost everywhere you look irl
>rarely is it done well and most of the time it's used as shallow allegory
I agree here
>Western games are defined by their agenda pushing and always have been.
So what? You have a brain, you can spot an analyze those agendas and hidden goals, you dont play games that dont align with you politically just because they present opposite ideas?
Part of the fun is to spot those agendas, see the ideas and think for yourself about them.
I admit i had to drop some games because they done terrible job with subtlety and presenting said ideas but that doesnt mean that there arent games that handle those things well
f94feb No.15232928
I honestly believe more games should have the guts to be more political
You might already think that most modern games are already political to begin with, but these politics are never actually explored within the plot of the game. Usually when one thinks of politics in games, they think of forced gays, communist propaganda, and normalizing trannies, usually punctuated with evil straight white men. Thing is, those are entirely virtue signaling, like putting a bumper sticker on your game. BATTLETECH let you choose Xir or whatever as your preferred pronoun, and there's some very tumblr-esque character portraits in the game, but the actual story of the game does not delve into these politics at all.
Modern game developers want to sprinkle enough hints that they're being developed by /yourguys/, and you can certainly gauge the beliefs of the developers after playing their games, but when it comes to actually dealing with politics in any kind of depth, you'll find absolutely squat. And that's something I genuinely wished people would do more. People assumed FarCry 5 would be some grand message against the modern state of America, but it turned out to be a dumb action story with an even dumber fuckyou ending. Very little developers have the guts or insight to properly utilize the political themes at hand on top of forming a cohesive plot and engaging gameplay, so it's often reduced to bumper stickers on a game.
There are such games which delve more deeply into what it's like to be a muslim woman or whatever, but those tend to be shitty Twine adventures instead of actual fun games because they're made by propagandists looking to create a work of art first and a game second. Said message would be more effective if I had actual fun playing the game. Now, if a game actually took upon itself to explore some political theme seriously, it would at least be more interesting than games where politics are just a passing mention. At least a point would have to be brought up and have to be solidified with arguments and defended against to appear valid and not come off as total propaganda. Even journalists are speaking up against games twiddling with their fingers for which side they're on and using politics as window dressing, though I don't believe a side should be picked (in this case it would be more accurate that most games aren't even sitting on the fence, they're not there at all).
Even if said politics are bullshit and the arguments of both sides are presented in a completely one-sided fashion, it can at least provide you with a unique perspective on things, and one you can disagree with at your own leisure.
Moreover, a political game where you're entirely railroaded would feel entirely hamfisted and not gel with players at all. Look at Spec Ops: The Line, they had to take away most of the impacts the player could make on the storyline just so the game could get its point across, but in doing so players felt disconnected from it because they were forced to do bad baaaad things rather than make the decision themselves. Had they been offered the option to do said baaad things out of their own volition on top of other less obvious options where they didn't have to, the impact would have been much greater if said things were a consequence of their own choices. A lot of stories in game don't utilize the possibilities interactivity and player choice, even though it would be a perfect fit for exploring any political theme. To be the most effective, games would have to let you explore both sides of the argument through roleplaying or whatever. Ideally games should not pick sides and just present you with realistic consequences to your actions. Obviously that's not very likely to happen, but I find it honestly more preferable to beating around the bush. You'd have to step up and say something of greater insight than DIVERSITY GOOD, NAZIS BAD–which most players already agree with or don't care about. Maybe delve more into the economical aspect of your point of view instead of only the societal one.
f94feb No.15232932
>>15232928
I actually don't mind developers going out of their way to send a message, but most game writers are often inexperienced in writing or the subject matter they're handling. Most social issues in fictional worlds in games tend to be copied very unsubtly from existing ones IRL. Instead, consider how Michael Kirkbride, someone who actually studied theology, managed to create for The Elder Scrolls games he worked on a much more interesting mythology than any game out there. That's another core issue, most game writers are talking about things they know jack about, or are only copying what they heard from other media outlets. Saying something of actual insight requires deeper understanding and experience with the subject material you're dealing with.
47d99c No.15232936
>>15232862
"Art, like science, is emancipated from all that is positive, and all that is humanly conventional; both are
completely independent of the arbitrary will of men. The political legislator may place their empire under an
interdict, but he cannot reign there. He can proscribe the friend of truth, but truth subsists; he can degrade the
artist, but he cannot change art. No doubt, nothing is more common than to see science and art bend before the
spirit of the age, and creative taste receive its law from critical taste. When the character becomes stiff and
hardens itself, we see science severely keeping her limits, and art subject to the harsh restraint of rules; when the
character is relaxed and softened, science endeavours to please and art to rejoice. For whole ages philosophers as
well as artists show themselves occupied in letting down truth and beauty to the depths of vulgar humanity."
943a7a No.15232937
Game Based Upon the Premise of a Dystopian Future™ will be Political
>In other news: Water! It's Wet!
f32d6d No.15232943
>>15232917
>It will be a few jews living in shiny skyscrapers while the brown slave cattle roam the streets like zombies, subdued with drugs and hatred for one another.
Pretty much
ffd681 No.15232948
>>15232937
There's a difference between being political and crying DRUMPH
ab59bb No.15232949
>>15232946
>>15232948
You americans are fucked in the head, nobody said anything about "muh drumpf"
Who the fuck cares about him
f23008 No.15232953
>>15232927
>If you want a complex in game world you need to have power dynamics and politics
Nothing wrong with in-universe politics, everything wrong with shallow allegory.
>So what?
It's disgusting.
>hidden goals
hidden in plain sight
>they present opposite ideas
they force bad ideas that are dangerous for society.
>Part of the fun is to spot those agendas
The fun is being repulsed by them and playing something good instead that doesn't tell you what to think.
dfffbd No.15232956
>>15232928
I play vidya to relax after a long day of work, not hear the same shit I heard throughout the day. As if vidya could not get any worse, let's take away all that's comfy and pure and replace it with more "fuck drumpf" and more "lock her up".
You want a political discussion? Talk to your neighbor or your friend. I'd say that, if you want to make an actual political argument in a game world, at a minimum, you have to make it as fleshed out and thought out as Deus Ex. Name me other games that have done that. I can't think of any, not even the other Deus Ex games. It's always going to be garbage. All you're asking for is more of what we're getting already, which you don't need to ask, or more of right-wing-centered games which are going to be about just as preachy and annoying.
Stop begging for the further death of video games, it's already shit enough.
ab59bb No.15232965
>>15232956
>I play vidya to relax after a long day of work, not hear the same shit I heard throughout the day.
Well thats your problem that you prefer escapism
>let's take away all that's comfy and pure and replace it with more "fuck drumpf" and more "lock her up".
If thats your idea of "politics" then im sorry for you
>Name me other games that have done that. I can't think of any, not even the other Deus Ex games.
First Deus Ex was on spot when handling in world politics, what you didnt liked about it? Another good example might be Fallout New Vegas
7aa529 No.15232966
>>15232949
I'm eurocuck, and you have to be a fool if you think that they aren't going to jump onto the political correct mentality after seeing shitshows like the new deus ex or detroit: human
8ca131 No.15232970
>>15232949
>Who the fuck cares about him
Many to the point where people are having mental break downs over him and trying to inflect their trauma on media.
0145ba No.15232975
>>15232724
>cyberpunk 2077
>titles is literally named after a genre that's about a technological underclass fighting the corrupt/rich upperclass
>not political
ab59bb No.15232977
>>15232966
>and you have to be a fool if you think that they aren't going to jump onto the political correct mentality
I dont know, ill pirate it and then see, its a coin toss at this point saying how the game will come out
For eg. Witcher 3 and 2 had politics in it and i found it quite well done so i give them benefit of the doubt
>after seeing shitshows like the new deus ex or detroit: human
Different companies and devs, thats not an indicator of anything
>>15232970
>Many to the point where people are having mental break downs over him and trying to inflect their trauma on media.
I dont know, i dont care nor follow american media and society, in my country nobody gives a fuck about him
Besides bringing him up to this thread is pointless as nobody mentioned it earlier
1ce293 No.15232980
>>15232820
But they made the tweet in the first place and i doubt the guy in charge of GOG's tweeter has anything to do with Cyberpunk's writting
ffd681 No.15232984
>>15232970
Yeah, it's bloody insanity.
ffd681 No.15232986
>>15232980
You mean the Konrad cunt? He probably has a say to the PR department which is a problem in itself.
e74fd0 No.15232990
>>15232724
i dont mind 2077 politics the same way i dont mind medieval fantasy politics.
dfffbd No.15232998
>>15232965
>Well thats your problem that you prefer escapism
Yes, I should want my entertainment to be identical to my job. Man, I wish there were more multi-cultural walking simulators out there!
>If thats your idea of "politics" then im sorry for you
That is politics, though, nigger, everywhere where I've lived.
In slavic countries, people get elected despite no one you will ever talk to voting for them, then passing retarded laws taking away more rights, raising pension ages and pretending to raise wages while the prices of everything rise even faster.
In western Europe and Britain, it's unelected officials passing laws taking away more rights by the minute and the general population just trying to pretend that it's not happening and just "going with the flow."
And in America, it's just two billionaires or soon-to-be billionaires bickering over how many billions to give to Israel, and how many rights to take away from their citizens.
I've lived in all three regions for a decent period of time, and it's all shit. All of it.
>what you didnt liked about it?
You might have misunderstood me. I praised Deus Ex as being the one game to do it well, and then said that no other games have done anything even close to that.
8ca131 No.15233004
>>15232977
>I dont know, i dont care nor follow american media and society, in my country nobody gives a fuck about him
>Besides bringing him up to this thread is pointless as nobody mentioned it earlier
What people are saying is pretty fucking simple you europoor, there is a difference between political and crying over trump. whether you like it or not the hysterical shit with USA political effects everything world wide right down to gaming, if the game does what Deus EX did then everyone on /v/ will be happy but if it does the current year +3 trend of pozzed cancer which what no one wants then people are going to be pissed.
ab59bb No.15233005
>>15232998
>Yes, I should want my entertainment to be identical to my job
I didnt say that, what i mean that it can be entertaining to see ideas presented in your media and entertaiment, even ones you dont agree with.
For eg recently i read 2 war memoirs, both of them about same things but written by two different people, they had opposing opinions about the whole thing, and i found myself agreeing with one writer and disagreeing with another, and yet both books were higly entertaining for me and i enjoyed thinking about both characters motivations etc…
8ca131 No.15233011
>>15232984
It's gotten to the point where even normalfags don't want to play certain games.
03bea5 No.15233016
5333a4 No.15233032
>>15232724
>wanting apolitical cyberpunk
nigger, how would that even work? Politics is one of the baselines of the whole genre. Corporation versus individual, order versus anarchy, or (in modern cucked era) augmented versus unaugmented. The whole point is to throw you into a dystopian shithole where you can either try to create some kind of change, or game the system and rise to the top. Literally all of this is political in nature.
Here's what's gonna happen: the race of NPCs will be randomly generated (the premise is a fully globalised hellhole), there will be three societal classes (the incredibly rich CEOs who exploit everybody in search for more profit, the people working for the corporations on positions higher than a janitorr who manage to keep a decent living standard and live in gated communities, and the unwashed masses who are dirt-poor, live in ghettos, and commit crime for a living), and there will be some "ebin jokes" here and there about faggots and trannies that will make your eyes bleed, since CDPR wants to stay hip. The protag's choices will likely revolve around either trying to bring down a corp and giving the power back to the people, siding with a corp and cashing out with big dosh, and taking over a corp and being a CEO himself.
The fact the article namedrops fucking Shadowrun gives enough of an indication that the author has no idea what the fuck he's talking about, as nu-shadowrun is probably the most pozzed game I've ever played (both Dragonfall and Hong Kong)
d516ab No.15233037
>>15233016
>uploaded
>11th of July 2018
>the Witcher 3 release date
>19th of May 2015
Can you blame me for not knowing?
13078d No.15233056
Well, they are right. Cyberpunk as a genre has always been fairly political, what with being a pessimistic vision of the extrapolation of the 80s' decadent trends. You could still update its critiques to extrapolate from today's panorama, and double down on the original multiculturalism, China as the new boogieman instead of Russia, extreme consumerism, the slowly increasing gap between the lowest educationless (or even educated, we are all fucked anyway) class and The Man, the corporations as the shadow government… sadly, what they probably mean by political is "le DRUMPF xD".
b8cc88 No.15233059
>>15232831
>I took a look at his Twitter
>Most of his tweets are normal
>Except for him re-tweeting someone celebrating "racists" getting banned from RB6:Siege and another person talking about transgender nonsense.
It's over then.
23f15a No.15233061
59817e No.15233076
>>15232838
It's ironic because this is the narrative shat out by big big dystopian corps.
a0f04f No.15233081
>>15233032
>Corporation versus individual
It's funny because corps love individualism, or rather the liberal pretense of it.
dca5b9 No.15233086
>>15232831
> re-tweeting someone celebrating "racists" getting banned from RB6:Siege and another person talking about transgender nonsense
Yeah, that shit already stinks to high heaven.
278dd3 No.15233097
>>15233086
I disagree. If you actually go and check the twitters of developers who you like, it's very common to see a level of poz there that you wouldn't expect. This is largely, I suspect, a product of the kind of people who become gamedevs as a career.
ab59bb No.15233114
>>15233097
>If you actually go and check the twitters of developers who you like, it's very common to see a level of poz there that you wouldn't expect.
This, i was really surprised after i looked up dev studio behind Satellite Regin on twitter
spoiler, they supported fag marriage and set their twitter icon to rainbow flag
c8af89 No.15233115
>>15233081
Its more so the "be unique by opposing the rest". Basically individual identity through controversy instead of unique ness of your skills and efforts rising above the others, not just standing to the side.
5333a4 No.15233116
>>15233081
they love economical individualism, in that each and every individual will spend shekels for whatever he craves rather than spending capital as a family unit (as that tends to lead to more sensible spending for shit they actually need rather than chasing after brands and similar crap to show just how "uniquee" you are). Actual individualism where one is a sane, thinking being? Fuck no. Corps love having a consumer herd to bamboozle with marketing.
3b7448 No.15233120
Truth is New Vegas for example is political as fuck, you even have Christianity thrown in Honest Hearths for good measure and it is fucking good game. It just didn't took any sides in current politics.
If they will handle it properly, it will be good game.
It is just you need to be retarded to promote your game by being "political" in 2018, when everyone is tired of politics.
278dd3 No.15233125
>>15233116
<Nah, dude. Children and the elderly are just leeches on my money.
I hate people who prioritize money or "principles" or feelz over general health of themselves and their societies.
dca5b9 No.15233127
>>15233114
But Satellite Reign was shit. The idea to ape Commanods was interesting but they completely failed in its execution.
ab59bb No.15233128
>>15233127
I liked the setting and the hacking part, i guess it wasnt a great game or maybe even good, but it was decent enough
13078d No.15233130
>>15233114
>>15233127
You mean Satellite "one hacker army" Reign, or Satellite "infilitrator with remote hacker one shotting every dungeon" Reign?
dfffbd No.15233132
>>15233125
>over general health of themselves
I'm pretty sure that most people will pay to get help if they need it, anon. Only cartoon villains will say "I'm fine with this broken leg, I just need me gold."
>and their societies
How about fuck my society? My society never did shit for me. My society hates me with a passion and wishes I was dead for disagreeing with them. They're adults and are responsible for their own lives, and if they have kids, they're responsible for their kids as well.
ca3087 No.15233138
>>15232744
THE SKY ISN'T BLUE AND WATER ISN'T WET
c2e4e2 No.15233142
>>15233059
Not necessarily re-tweeting are not necessarily endorsements, it's why people make a point of getting ratioed on Twitter. He also has an American flag pinned to his screen at work so he at least doesn't think America is evil.
5a6e9e No.15233147
>>15232966
>you have to be a fool if you think that they aren't going to jump onto the political correct mentality
>after seeing shitshows like the new deus ex or detroit: human
You're contradicting yourself. The new Desu Sex was lambasted for being a really, really retarded commentary on "race" using augmented people as proxy for that. Nobody actually liked the game that much or talked about it much after it was released, even Human Revolution is more topical and interesting.
Detroit: Become Nigger goes the same way, shitty political pandering in a non-sensical world that nobody actually liked. It's pretty much already forgotten and it's main criticism was how they sabotaged their entire world and logical consistency for the sake of having nigger droids without even having the courtesy of giving you gameplay.
If you're gonna quote those 2 examples as the reason why Cyberpunk will be political, then it's far more logical that it will be as political as Doom at this point.
ab59bb No.15233155
>>15233130
>You mean Satellite "one hacker army" Reign, or Satellite "infilitrator with remote hacker one shotting every dungeon" Reign?
Say what you want but hijacking random goons and sneaking trough enemy base was fun for me
dca5b9 No.15233159
>>15233147
>then it's far more logical that it will be as political as Doom at this point
Anon…
ab59bb No.15233162
>>15233142
>so he at least doesn't think America is evil.
Thats not a good thing tho
20f57e No.15233165
Being political doesn't mean shoving postmodernist neoliberal bullshit into your face. Nobody gave a shit when the Witcher games repeatedly touched racism, imperialism, religious doctrine and various kinds of prejudice. There was no organised cultural propaganda around video games then, and the more you pay attention to it now the more power you are giving to the very same people who would not allow anything like the Witcher games to exist. Stop with this inane bullshit.
23b216 No.15233168
>>15232724
guess i will cancel my preorder then.
ab59bb No.15233169
>>15233165
>There was no organised cultural propaganda around video games then
Then as in 3 years ago?
8055ca No.15233171
>>15233138
Then why is it wet when I touch it?
Checkmate, autists.
20f57e No.15233174
>>15233169
Witcher 1 was 10 years ago, anon.
ab59bb No.15233177
>>15233174
Yes but all games in Witcher series touch upon those subjects
13078d No.15233178
>>15233155
Can't say it wasn't, but both the Soldier and the Support were really underused. Stopping time was fun, but that's about it because most of the time the Support was using the nanostims, and the Soldier was simply shit.
1102ee No.15233185
This doesn't mean anything until the game is out; there's never been a cyberpunk game that doesn't deal with politics
ab59bb No.15233186
>>15233178
Yeah i know, too bad as the game could be much better
709b54 No.15233191
>>15233165
But anon, the Witcher is post-modern neoliberalist bullshit. The original source material was written by an avowed communist, Geralt is a feminist man whore, and the traditional feudal society the game takes place in is portrayed very badly.
78fc87 No.15233200
>>15233191
After playing the games and reading a couple of the books, I'm inclined to disagree. No neoliberal would ever write a story that constantly shows the true colors and awful manipulation that women are capable of. On purpose, at least
20f57e No.15233208
>>15233191
Haven't read the books yet, but there's very little preaching in the games. It's like they're trying to let you engage with the world and its situations as a player or something.
18ff15 No.15233210
>>15233171
Your fingers are becoming wet.
Checkmate atheists.
c6fe01 No.15233221
Considering the politics in the Witcher games were well handled, I'll keep optimistic about CP2077's take on political narratives and themes.
95b502 No.15233244
>>15233191
>>15233200
Proof that even communist slavs know that women are harpies.
8055ca No.15233251
>>15233210
So the water is transferring its wetness to me and therefore becoming dry?
?checkmate philosophers?
e67c02 No.15233278
>>15232724
As long I can beat uppity nig nogs.
a637ca No.15233289
While you expect the worst and hope for the best its a sad state of affairs when 'political' in a game based on a neckbeards answer to 80's consumerism and yuppies vs punks is assumed to be socjus.
i mean Robocop is political AND satirical as is Starship Troopers but it sure as shit didn't ruin them. Don't get me wrong i still expect the wort but i would wait and see before going nuclear. Not like you buy a game without knowing and scream you got tricker, right?
6448ab No.15233299
Cyberpunk is an inherently political genre. Kind of like spy fiction.
6448ab No.15233309
>>15233289
I do kind of detest the politics of Starship Troopers, to be honest. Fun movie, but Paul Verhoeven childishly wiped his ass with the politics of a book he didn't understand.
55b574 No.15233313
>>15233299
But it's fantasy politics, not the real life shit
77a300 No.15233319
>>15232724
>Cyberpunk 2077 Will Be Political And Focus On Social Commentary
Translation:
Cyberpunk 2077 Is An Anti-White/Christian Pro-Tranny/Faggot/Shitskin/Muslim/Jew Propaganda Piece=
0efd16 No.15233323
>>15233309
Paul Verhoeven didn't do a very good job, because I came out of that movie thinking they had a damn good society.
ab59bb No.15233326
>>15233313
There is no such thing as "fantasy" politics, lots of classical books about utopias and ideology present a fictional setting/city that would be presented as a model to strive irl for, eg Plato "Republic". Is this too "fantasy politics"?
6448ab No.15233327
>>15233313
Depends what "real life shit" is. Commenting on the growth of corporations into behemoths with power comparable to government, the way technology effects every day people, and problems that come with overcrowding and pollution is all real world shit.
abeab7 No.15233329
>>15233309
tbh honest, the author of the book didn't understand politics either
44bab9 No.15233332
You have to realize that Democrats, during the 1960s, saw a chance to redeem themselves by allying exclusively with the left, and erasing the things they were associated with, such as slavery, the KKK, etc. They bet their money on horses like minorities and socialism(communism). Fifty years on, those horses still haven't paid off, and they just keep doubling down on them in hopes that one day they will.
Since most game developers were ostracized by their peers while growing up, they blamed the establishment for their ills, and who better to rage against the machine than the left? At least on the surface. So vidya is now creeping into trendy faux-political garbage, and it doesn't look like this is going to change.
6448ab No.15233334
>>15233323
His criticisms are very childish. He just has characters dress up like Nazis, and then points and says "look. Nazis".
I think even the book has a satirical bend to it personally, but it's more nuanced, and less pleb tier about it.
2b12cc No.15233338
Didn't a number of devs jump ship from CD Projekt Red during this game's development?
5a6e9e No.15233339
>>15233178
>The Soldier was shit
The best part of the game was all the explosions. If your Soldier wasn't a grenade throwing freak with several heavy weapons, you were playing the game wrong.
Support was a backup Soldier and good mostly for healing, though.
>>15233191
You're gonna substantiate those claims, or do you expect everyone to just believe you?
Because those that played the game know very well how Elves and Dwarves are not portrayed as poor refugees, displaced by the white men but rather as murderous freaks that run drugs using kids when it suits them.
It also shows plenty of women that are powerless besides using their cunning and lies or simply emotional arguments, and even when they do have the power to kickass, they'll still manipulate instead.
It's almost like you're talking about something completely different.
5a6e9e No.15233347
>>15233313
The source of conflict and the solutions presented may be fictitional but the ideology behind how to solve problems and use the resources you have is never "fantasy".
>>15233319
>hyperbole
At this point, I kinda think you want this to happen so you can gloat about being right again.
>>15233332
None of this is relevant for the thread at all, especially for a studio that isn't even in America.
0efd16 No.15233356
>>15233332
Since plebs think of history as "boring nerd shit," most young people think it was Republicans who wanted to keep slavery, Republicans who created and funded the KKK, and Republicans who were in charge of all the Southern states when black protesters were getting attack dogs and water cannons unleashed on them, even though it was the Democrats fighting for all that shit. The Democrats have, for the younger and dumber, successfully painted the Democrats as the nice party of equal rights for everyone that loves brown people, and the Republicans as the party of le old mean racist bigots who hate gays and immigrants for no reason. They don't even know how comically, blatantly racist the Democrats were up until JFK's election. They've done a great job at rewriting history.
af84a9 No.15233368
Deus Ex was political in a good way.
Political today means it's just a way to tell me how great and superior fags and niggers and women are. Looks like I'll pass this one.
44bab9 No.15233373
.>>15233347
CDPR sure as shit isn't delving into EU or Far East political matters for this game, so which high profile country's politics does that leave?
>>15233356
Well, we're in a society in which people watch historical dramas on HBO or Netflix and think that gives them a thumb on the pulse of history. In reality, reading a fucking book on a subject is far more interesting. Truth is always stranger than fiction.
dca5b9 No.15233378
>>15233376
Artists are always going to be degenerate, leftist cucks if you don't put the fear of God in them.
a57b2f No.15233379
>>15232724
I hope that Cyberpunk 2077 does not go into complete cartoonish nazi shit that wolfenstein 2 did.
With the whole Blazkowicz being Polish and Jewish Polish where the father sent his wife to the nazis because he hated the Jews, then why would he marry a fucking Jew to begin with?
Or when Detroit was taking itself seriously by being a BLM simulator on one end then on the other you follow the plot of a robot that has the kinks for a loli robot. Then you have the only rational robot in town being Connor.
If cdpr goes beyond the AnCap wonderland and goes into ebil white racist shit then it's going to be another, I don't care or give a fuck about game.
46483b No.15233391
>>15232724
I wouldn't be mad if this just meant generic futuristic anti-authoritarian stuff, but let's be real, this most likely means "le drumpf" memes and shoehorned trannies reciting current year feminist talking points.
158156 No.15233394
Witcher 2 and 3 was overrated garbage so this hardly surprises me once normalfags get a hold of something enmasse they ruin it almost instantly
Maybe fallout 5 or something else will fill the gap because cp2020 is gonna be garbage tier story wise just like the 2016 dood sex game
Jesus christ how quickly the industry fell we need another crash or hope to fuck some indie madman do it.
Oh well back to kingdom come once they fix the bugs
af84a9 No.15233396
>>15233376
Gog usually modernizes the games they sell so they can run on windows 10 without having to google hotfixes and emulators for 4 hours.
af84a9 No.15233404
>>15233396
I also forgot that they still don't have any drm, so for fucks sake.
ecc5f1 No.15233413
>>15232733
Yes, but that doesn’t mean they have to allude to drumpfkins and have faggot “cyberpunk” characters whose only difference from SJWs is that they have cool laser beams. See: Read only memories
ab59bb No.15233423
>>15233373
> so which high profile country's politics does that leave?
China? Russia? India?
13078d No.15233442
>>15233378
Real art is what "educated artists" considere outsider art. There, I said it.
dca5b9 No.15233453
>>15233396
>usually
Yeah, they also sell blatantly defective products like Interstate 76 or Shadow of the Horned Rat. Also, the whole Postal 2 debacle and their embarrassing attempt to get their costumers to stop shitting on them.
You have to try really fucking hard to make Steam look like the good guy.
6448ab No.15233454
>>15233442
Isn't outsider art mostly mental patients smearing shit on the walls?
af84a9 No.15233464
>>15233453
Steam is still way worse, fuck off.
13078d No.15233465
>>15233454
While there is a link, outsider art is generally used by artists "in the scene" to describe art made by people outside of the scene. As a result, it often looks weird, but their works are really different from anything else, including other outsiders, because their minds have not been tainted by the education Jew.
dca5b9 No.15233468
>>15233454
How are they any different from the usual crop of modern artists?
6448ab No.15233473
>>15233468
I mean, the only time I've heard that term, it was literally a mental patient smearing shit on a wall. They displayed this in a gallery.
dca5b9 No.15233478
>>15233473
>a mental patient smearing shit on a wall
Sounds like the majority of modern artists to me.
6448ab No.15233481
>>15233478
Literal mental patient, and literal shit though.
dca5b9 No.15233489
>>15233481
>Literal mental patient
So, leftists.
>and literal shit
I said modern artists, right?
13078d No.15233492
>>15233481
Well, I have seen a fair deal of literal secretions as art, and literal mental artists, just not patient. They are not outsiders because they probably went to some college to get a basic formation in some humanity (gender studies, anyone?), which often includes some references to art, which theoretically means they are more prepared to u n d e r s t a n d and craft art than anyone else.
As an example of outsider art, The Room is often considered an outsider movie. While Tommy Wiseau may be kinda retarded, I doubt he actually is mental.
4034ed No.15233493
>>15232949
I do
<worship intensifies
43f5a9 No.15233496
Umm, no sweetie the definition of punk has changed
ef5de4 No.15233498
Games and narratives can be political as fuck, but if handled correctly. You can either do it in the form of high politics as discussion of ideas, think of LoGH. This makes it timeless and worth reading. You can also make it so low level that it becomes detached from any polititical ideology and it is basically is about people making deals and screwing over each other in political setting. The bad area is the middle ground of current year politics, it makes the narrative shallow and dated fast. Imagine playing a ocuppy wallstreet or tea party centered game, by this point its cringe as fuck and in few decades nobody will remember it.
Also, cyberpunk was always political, but it is a genre of the 80s, with its sentiments and problems. The same guys who wrote those books are pretty much liberal lefty tier nowadays. Do not read William Gibsons twitter in any case.
e67c02 No.15233499
>>15233489
Reminds me of the tumblrcon ball pit building.
c6ef54 No.15233501
We know it was going to be shit.
6448ab No.15233512
>>15233489
That's a sculpture of shit.
dca5b9 No.15233519
>>15233512
>That's a sculpture of shit.
No, what you hope is that it is a sculpture of shit, not made of it.
6448ab No.15233531
>>15233525
tbh, I'm actually mental, and can doodle a bit. How do I get registered as an outsider artist?
dca5b9 No.15233541
>>15233531
Shit into your palm, smear it on a canvas and call it an intersectional piece about white racism and sexism.
da318b No.15233546
>>15233539
Or he can become transjew
24082a No.15233547
>>15233478
I'd love to see the actual dragon instead of part of an unfinished tail.
de2106 No.15233574
>>15232822
Now I want to GM a shadowrun campaign about bikes with rockets.
4034ed No.15233588
>>15233171
>sexualizing water
3a9f89 No.15233589
>>15232724
even if it had no political angle the /pol/tards would make one unless it was a porno of hitler for them to jack off to
24082a No.15233591
>>15233588
>implying there's anything wrong with that
abeab7 No.15233605
>>15233589
>trannypol has od'd on semen again
1774b7 No.15233609
>>15233496
>sad_anarchy_in_the_UK_plays_in_the_background
I don't listen to punk, of course I'm going to refrence one of the most well-known punk bands of all time, my country made a movie glorifiying punk for gods sake
Sons of Norway was alright, I think my father would have enjoyed it if he was still alive
And fuck this shit, afropunk, really? I mean, really-really? No ageism, oh they just want to serve alcohol to minors so they can rape them. Fucking hell, why can't we have a black masshooter for once at an event like this?
58bc97 No.15233620
Hopefully they mean political as in Deus Ex 1 or New Vegas instead of having some hamfisted social justice "message". Who am I kidding, this is current year- there's almost zero chance that'll be the case.
>>15233478
Do you really expect much from people who have their art teachers conditioned to say their art is good even if it's objectively shit?
a43d34 No.15233641
Let us hope that we will be able to finish the game without a single battle - defeat all your enemies by giving them AIDS.
ce15f2 No.15233653
>>15233641
Why not use diplomacy?
Just make every enemy undergo HRT and cut off their dicks.
73e6a0 No.15233662
>>15233376
>So I'm not supersized
the absolute state of /v/
5a6e9e No.15233678
>>15233672
You're being a dick on purpose, aren't you?
a43d34 No.15233686
>>15233653
Trannies can be dangerous.
8fa595 No.15233733
I knew it would have been shit back in fucking 2014. Feels good being right
73e6a0 No.15233809
>>15233764
I wish I had typos that funny.
You can also post some picture without endorsing whoever is featured in it, you sperg.
0b4bbc No.15233825
>>15233396
>modernize
>bundle with DOSbox and force you to install it unless you manually unpack the shitty archive installer
pick one faggot
4791a8 No.15233831
>>15233764
>make a silly typo
>get called out on it
<instead of laughing it off get hyper defensive and play the victim card while spouting shit about reddit and liberals for no reason
Holy fucking shit.
58bc97 No.15233836
>>15233825
>You can't play your old games on your old systems because you bought them from GOG
fuck
5a6e9e No.15233838
>>15233764
It's a meme, you dip. He was making a jab about your "I'm not supersized" and the "give her the D" meme.
Is this Poe's Law? Or just autism? Am I being rused?
33b38d No.15233933
>>15232724
Cyberpunk has always been political and sci-fi in general has always been progressive. I dunno what you fucks are expecting from this.
1774b7 No.15234013
>>15233933
Good gameplay, entertaining story and quests, a good atmosphere, memorable and likeable characters, replayability, other such things?
32e612 No.15234062
>>15233764
have fun being dyslexic retard
96bf9a No.15234074
>>15233733
>not knowing it in 1420
Pleb.
and you don't even know it right now, retard
4791a8 No.15234090
>>15234075
>he keeps doubling down
32e612 No.15234115
>>15234075
>waaah don't make fun of my spelling mistakes
>how dare you post a reaction image I don't like
whatever you say, liberal
fa7ee7 No.15234118
>>15233933
>Cyberpunk has always been political
The anti giant conglomerates part isn't the problem, the problem is making every nigger a genius hacker rocket surgeon. Nobody likes niggers, the only good vidya with them is GTA: Ghetto Sim. While they could have place in dytopic burger ghettos, making them super hackers and sheeeeeiiit makes it hard to enjoy the game as it's a completely nonsense setting, niggers simply aren't capable of that or they, who outnumber humans, would be doing something other than drive-bys by now.
1774b7 No.15234124
>>15234068
That's already included in gameplay, you refugee fucker, now go away.
27cc9c No.15234135
>>15232724
>Shadowrun managed to cover various sociopolitical topic matter within the cyberpunk universe without upsetting most fans
That's a good one. One of the Shadowrun video games had an NPC who goes full fedora and shits on christianity, calling it backwards and ignorant, when there exists a
GOD DAMN CHRISTIAN MAGIC TRADITION IN THE UNIVERSE.
Shadowrun has literal christian magic, and the writers went against well established canon to fedora tip instead. Also, let's not forget that the pen and paper game has had some hardcore non-cyberpunk commentary lately, ranging from feminist talking point bullshit about equality in a game where female shadowrunners have very much been a prominent things since 1st edition, talk about tranny rights and shit when sex change modifications have been around since at least 2nd edition, possibly 1st, and not really talked about, due to the irrelevancy of the politics of it, and the same tired Black Lives Matter-esque shit regarding orks and trolls, and how dey all good boys who dindu nuffin.
Worst of all, the cyberpunk genre has plenty of political commentary already, consisting of wealth inequality, the consequences of corporations becoming far too powerful, and essentially becoming their own nations in a sense, constantly being spied on due to almost everything being connected to the internet, and the negative consequences of the glorification of violence in media.
Snow Crash, a book that was borderline parody of the cyberpunk genre is a lot less absurd than the current politics of trannies, pedophiles, open border activists, feminazis, black apologists, and hurt feelings on the internet.
4791a8 No.15234141
>>15234138
Well it's painfully obvious you aren't lying about being mentally deficient.
ab59bb No.15234142
>>15234118
Nigger created cyberpunk 2020 tho
c469cc No.15234166
>>15232724
>A cyberpunk game being political
No shit retard, what never you going to complain about fantasy games having magic?
32e612 No.15234169
>>15234138
redditver you say, redditard
71ee35 No.15234189
>a little too diverse
Who the fuck said that?
4d1000 No.15234212
>>15233159
Thanks for the aids anon, spoiler your visual aids next time
fa7ee7 No.15234243
>>15234189
Literally Hitler.
ab59bb No.15234257
>>15234234
more like redchanit amrite?
5801dd No.15234281
Yeah, the whole "fight the powa" faux-commie bullshit that was churned out in the 80s and 90s and led to this mainstream marketable corporate backed "resistance" isn't going to fly as well in the modern age as the internet has allowed the intelligent to be informed on how that scam pans out in the long run. Cyberpunk is dead, because punks were always childish and lazy fools crying about greener grass without wanting to work for it and it has since become extremely obvious. Sad to see all the over-the-hill Peter Pans still refusing to see this.
da318b No.15234283
>>15233641
>rape isn't a battle
>>15232943
>>15232917
>well off white people live peacefully in their own communities
<poor browns with a billion body mods led, by a woman with a huge nose, seek to overthrow the evil whites by way of violence.
eece45 No.15234337
>>15233142
>so he at least doesn't think America is evil.
fa7ee7 No.15234340
>>15232943
Worst is they won't allow us a single White country, everyone has to take millions of niggers and commies pretend that'd make a difference for Apefrica (despite just the monetary cost of paying for a million niggers here being much more than paying for ten million niggers in their country). Best hope for mankind is ww3, which should shake things enough that we can gas the kikes responsible and their commies and pet niggers with them.
8a5025 No.15234343
>>15232998
The only place left with true freedom is Africa. But even then, you sacrifice security for freedom. No one would say Somalia is a particularly safe place to live, but it is the most free. it doesn’t help that all anyone in first world countries do is bitch about how fucked the system is, yet do nothing to try and change it. But I will agree, modern politics is just bread and circuses, it’s sports for people who don’t watch sports. Especially in America where there are two clearly defined “teams” one can root for
fa7ee7 No.15234351
>>15234343
Africa is not free. Being a faggot for instance is illegal and with harsh penalties in many nigger countries.
I don't know how well it works in practice, but the Swiss get to vote on many issues that'd be decided by some politician elsewhere.
e18e11 No.15234363
>The Witcher stories, was a complex critique of the author’s world
>complex
569154 No.15234381
>redneck stereotype that looks exactly like a modern redneck only with a double barrel laser gun
Fake, boring and gay
fa7ee7 No.15234385
>>15234363
>he didn't understand the several subtle but highly complex critiques in The Witcher
>he didn't even see how The Witcher when played backwards predicted all major events until the next game
>he didn't understand how when Geralt was fighting (which in turn is a a metaphor for playing gwent) he was really fighting himself and the only real way to win the game is to stop playing it
0c3704 No.15234438
>>15234381
>Sign: Moon and star
moon-and-star wasn't a birthsign in morrowind, it was the ring the protag was destined to wear as the nerevarine and also symbolic of his mission. inb4 but the player wasn't actually the nerevarine. it's irrelevent, he fulfilled the prophecies and became it
e6ea6c No.15234448
>>15234438
>not getting the joke
4791a8 No.15234454
>>15234438
Syrian isn't a race and rocket scientist isn't a class either, it's for the joke stupid.
0c3704 No.15234459
>>15234454
for classes you could design a custom one and call it 'Rocket Scientist'. i get the joke, but using a nonbirthsign in the 'birthsign' spot doesn't affect the joke itself, just makes that specific part inaccurate.
e6ea6c No.15234475
>>15234459
You might be autistic.
93da99 No.15234476
>Cyberpunk 2020 vidya adaptation will have the same commentary as Cyberpunk 2020
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eece45 No.15234478
>>15234475
We need more autistic people and less fags like you tbh
0c3704 No.15234481
>>15234475
it's not a huge deal, but just would've been funnier if he used 'The Thief' birthsign instead, for example. no point in being inaccurate for no reason when it doesn't add to the joke.
13460d No.15234536
>>15234476
I hope so. 2020 was a comfy setting. I hope they don't go full harebrained schemes on the setting. I know Mike Pondsmith spends a lot of time in Seattle, but for my sanity I have to hope he isn't a full blown SJW.
f51b02 No.15234556
>>15234481
I can't believe you are this autistic that you can't see how moon and star adds to the joke.
But for the sake of my sanity I'm going to spoon feed you.
0c3704 No.15234573
>>15234556
i understand that, it's the most common symbolism of islam, but it should've been included in the joke some other way, since moon-and-star isn't a fucking birthsign.
1cb65b No.15234575
>>15232920
People conflate class issues with Da Juze
4791a8 No.15234591
>>15234573
And nothing else in the joke except the name is in the game either, you fucking aspie.
2f9806 No.15234594
>>15232724
>Focus On Social Commentary
Oh course it will. I get that it's a cyberpunk game and all. The problem is that we all already know what kind of social commentary it's going to have: Right-wingers, capitalism, boaders and white people are evil and LGBTQLMNOPSUV+FOV-BBQ/HTTP and diversity(especially muslims) are the best things ever and if you don't like them then you're literally a Nazi. And you know, focusing on social commentary rather then being fun. But with The Witcher 3 having fag and tranny shit in it I can't say I'm surprised this shit is pozzed.
5801dd No.15234599
>>15234381
Not to mention the pregnant woman smoking, gotta show those breeders as ignorant and poor, unless they are having mixed babies, that is.
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ed445b No.15234612
>>15234591
How autistic can you get?
358782 No.15234724
>>15234243
>watching the cringehat
c6fe01 No.15234729
>>15234536
>Cyberpunk is comfy
Oh, you're one of those fags.
58bc97 No.15234740
>>15233933
>Sci-Fi was always political
5fefcd No.15234749
Developer:
>We're gonna change the mind of so many people, we're gonna make everyone love trans people by painting them in such a great light, and make them sympathize with PoC and finally people will be aware of the racial injustice occurring in the world today!
Player:
>Man this guy looks weird. Just shut up and give me the mission already, I wanna go shoot people.
99% of the time this is true.
6448ab No.15234753
>>15234740
Everything is political, if you want to play that game. Mario is political, because it shows respect for monarchy, and not redistributing Princess Peach's wealth among the Goombas.
860898 No.15234780
>>15232724
Did anyone not notice the protagonist was referred to as a Dreamer, in the e3 reveal?
Saw it coming a mile away.
1ebcd0 No.15234807
>>15232946
>Trump is final boss
>he's Armstrong 2.0
ab59bb No.15234808
>>15234780
>Makes a pun connected to the american dream "and im a big dreamer"
>ITS TOTTALY A PROOF THAT THE GAME WILL BE POZED GUIS !
what the hell are you smoking
96f83e No.15234834
>It will be the first bomb of CDProjectRed
>It will tank the studio completely as the polish government will stop funding it.
703657 No.15234865
There better be an option to play as an augment hating EVIL NAZI THAT PURIFIES THE WORLD OF UPPITY NIGGERS
d56c42 No.15234897
>>15234135
>>Snow Crash
most hardcore pizza service ever.
ef27a6 No.15234898
Putin and Trump to be bosses
fa7ee7 No.15234976
>>15234865
SJWs never allow dissenting thoughts in their games. Witcher allows you to go more to one side or the other, but if CDPR goes full SJW, and I'm not saying they will, all dialog options will be some variation of "we wuz kangz kill whitey blm muh dyk drumpf", even in historical games they don't allow the main character to have what was the most common opinion at the time.
53d180 No.15234984
And there were retards still delusional, trying to pretend that it would not be a marxist propaganda.
CDPR are marxists.
Cyberpunk 2077 WILL be shit. It will be full of marxism, and being made by leftists, it's gameplay will be completely shit.
Never buy games made by leftists. Spread to all normalfags about the "game" being full of marxist propaganda, and make them stop buying it.
8992bc No.15234997
>>15234898
But this is what actually happened with the powers at the time. Everybody was so afraid of another war in Europe they let Germany do whatever until they took France.
ff50d5 No.15234999
>>15234898
It would be extremely based and fashy.
5494ff No.15235007
>>15233332
How do you define "paid off?" The democrats are very competitive in many geographical areas and levels of government. The black loyalty to democrats (like 95%) continues to pay off in majority black areas
fa7ee7 No.15235038
>>15234997
>Everybody was so afraid of another war in Europe they let Germany do whatever until they took France.
Yes… after France declared war on Germany.
96bf9a No.15235060
>>15234984
Are you hallucinating, anon? Admit it, you started writing your post after reading the first 5 words in the OP and made the rest up in your mind as you were typing.
17f62d No.15235061
>>15234984
I tend to be out of the loop for when companies become pozzed, what did they do that was marxist? That tweet apology doesn't count as it was just corporate damage control.
>>15234999
One thing I don't get is why (((they))) would allow Trump to continue fighting child trafficking if he were truly /theirgoy/.
It's not like the majority of people even cared to begin with, why have him cut off their supply of organs and poon?
bc574a No.15235062
>>15235038
Stop ignoring the fact that both france and the UK were allied to poland.
777748 No.15235069
Cyberpunk was always political. From Neuromancer to GitS.
53d180 No.15235079
>>15235060
>>15235061
Check their staff, as well as their (((social media))).
They are all marxists.
Cyberpunk 2077 is confirmed to be marxist propaganda, and thus, shit.
fa7ee7 No.15235086
>>15235062
So why didn't they help Poland? Why didn't they declare war on the USSR, who also invaded Poland?
bc574a No.15235092
>>15235086
Because to get to poland you have to cross germany, you cant be at war with germany and the soviet union at the same time and dont expect them to ally and completely take over europe.
fa7ee7 No.15235107
>>15235092
>Because to get to poland you have to cross germany
I forgot water hadn't been invented back then.
>you cant be at war with germany and the soviet union
Especially when one of them is on your side.
c3dda8 No.15235108
>>15235062
I still think it's interesting to note that it was only a (((small segment))) of the Polish army that actually 1. Refused Hitler's ultimatum and 2. Actually put up a fight when he moved to to take Poland. The funniest thing is they even have footage of his army rolling into the city with droves upon droves of civilians cheering for him because they had been abused and taken advantage of by (((Bolshevik))) interests for years. France and England just wanted a reason at that point. Pre and Post war speeches by Churchill prove that beyond the shadow of a doubt. Vids related.
bc574a No.15235127
>>15235107
>I forgot water hadn't been invented back then.
Its not like germany had a fucking navy, defences and figthing in a coastal region means that the number advantage means jackshit.
Ever wondered why noone tried to invade germany through the sea in any of the world wars?
>Especially when one of them is on your side.
That happened later in the war, when both poland and france had been taken over.
>>15235108
>France and England just wanted a reason at that point.
For sure, but as a casus belli both the UK and france had all the reasons to attack germany, since they were allied with poland.
fa7ee7 No.15235156
>>15235127
>That happened later in the war
I meant the side of who ordered the war, not France/England who were puppets just like the USSR.
c3dda8 No.15235328
>>15235302
>What is Blade Runner
>What is Neuromancer
>What is Ghost in the Shell
>What is Akira
>What is nu-Deus Ex Only reason original didn't have daytime missions was Warren didn't like how the engine handled shading
>What is Judge Dredd
>What is Snow Crash
>What is pretty much all of it, you just don't remember.
17f62d No.15235375
>>15235328
>>15235302
Daytime cyberpunk is basically a modernized World of Tomorrow
b112db No.15235376
>>15235328
>bu-Deus Ex
I thought muh global warming makes the daytime too hot so the world operates on a graveyard schedule.
5801dd No.15235411
>>15235328
Y'know, when you list them out like that, it makes me realize how static in worldview the genre is, and how irrelevant those past perceptions are in light of the banality of technology as used by the contemporary common man.
0d08b5 No.15235970
>>15235328
To think. We almost had CP77 thread without day time bullshit.
2005e2 No.15236072
>umm… SWEETIE ITS 2077… we're fighting the fascist system!
>Umm… Sweetie no you can't think that!
17f62d No.15236108
>>15236072
I'm legit surprised they didn't sneak in
>no pedophobia.
61c79d No.15236131
>>15232724
Friendly reminder CD project always been SJW trash and the Witcher series is plagiarize trash That ripped off Elric of melnibone
61c79d No.15236135
Here the full size picture. How long until people stop damage controlling CD project?
39bdea No.15236205
>>15232724
>>15232730
looks like it's not going to make much money then. I guess we should roast something over this dumpster fire.
39bdea No.15236218
>>15232965
The person who does not prefer escapism enjoys his life too much to be taken away from it.
And a politician is only happy when he's hurting other people.
8c1847 No.15236221
>>15236205
>If I don't like it then it won't be successful
When will retards like you stop being so fucking retarded?
8fa595 No.15236224
>>15234074
Sure thing boyo
39bdea No.15236231
>>15233609
Whites and asians are mass shooters because they're good at planning. Blacks already shoot eachother over drugs and hookers. Quality vs quantity, checkmate atheists.
most fucking edgy thing i've posted of all time I apologize.
e97c32 No.15236233
>>15236135
>only one who kinda looks like a pol
e683be No.15236235
>>15236233
It's the mutt, isn't it?
39bdea No.15236238
>>15236221
Do you think that with the track record we have with political "fuck drumf" games we've had that it's going to be successful?
0d08b5 No.15236248
>>15236135
>criticizes CDPR
>uses an image of the team behind the show, that has nothing to do with CDPR
Come on man. Show a little skill.
e97c32 No.15236261
>>15236248
Thats still a thing?
8fa595 No.15236265
>>15236238
BF1 sold like hotcakes
39bdea No.15236273
>>15236265
And the people I know that bought it, will not be buying Battlefield games again. Plenty of people can still be fooled. Once.
a8b0c7 No.15236295
>andromeda was passed up because politics
>not because it was a bad game
SAGE
e97c32 No.15236296
>>15236273
So its the last jedi and solo situation?
0d08b5 No.15236301
>>15236261
Yes. Unfortunately. Somehow, because of all the show runner's virtue signalling online, missed this wonderful tidbit. https://archive.fo/sGkR2
This show is going to be something alright.
8fa0ec No.15236326
>>15232822
Eastern Europeans are the niggers of white people and yet I love them.
036990 No.15236333
>>15232724
Well, Bioshock is political. Witcher is political. GTA is political. So games can be political without being preachy leftist bullshit. So long as it doesn't delve into "lol drumpf is a nazi hurr", it should be fine. We shall see.
39bdea No.15236347
>>15236296
we're going to be seeing a lot of that.
Pretty much everyone I know from work that plays games bought it and not a single one liked it when I asked. They're the type to sell off their shit too, and guess what they sold my man
8fa0ec No.15236348
>>15236333
It's truly amazing to me that in the span of only a few years the media has managed to convince liberals that wanting to protect your own borders makes you racist.
It also amazing to me that kikes managed to convince conservatives that man made climate change isn't real
de60f9 No.15236359
>>15232724
Isn't social commentary the whole point of near-future scifi…?
c4fba8 No.15236368
I want more cyberpunk games that let me fight for an industrial consortium and kill street filth and zogbots alike.
c86e62 No.15236379
>>15236370
God fucking dammit that's a shitcan I wish I could forget.
3382c9 No.15236385
>>15232724
>in the future, everythnig will glow
Lazy and shit design
4791a8 No.15236390
>>15236348
Careful anon, wouldn't wanna trigger /pol/.
42737f No.15236395
>>15236370
>>15236379
Has that faggot killed himself yet or does he insist on plaguing the world with his presence and remain dedicated to producing cancer?
8ca131 No.15236396
>>15236370
>Raz0rfist.
I hate the faggot but his video on the why the wall needs to be built was surprisingly good.
b3b527 No.15236425
You'd think that they'd stick to societal commentary about technology affecting people but go for the political stuff eh?
Not surprised CD-BR drank the koolaid considering how much Witcher 3 blew up and out of proportion.
a8b0c7 No.15236441
>>15236390
its easy to control the image in a mirror, all you have to do is move one side of it.
26840d No.15236535
>>15236425
A lot of people are in denial, which is stupid, considering how shitty The Witcher 3 was.
8c1847 No.15236561
>>15236535
When will people realise that as long as media is overwhelmingly progressive then all companies will put out a progressive message?
Just look at this from a business perspective. Progressive message = good press and lots of hype. Non-profits sauce message = ignored or labels of being the boogeyman. Obviously, if you are selling a product, you're going to go along with whatever is popular in media.
a019cc No.15236691
>>15232917
Spot on, at least we're not alone fam. We have each other. The internet has been a tool which has helped them collect information, but it's also helped us realize there are other free thinkers out there, and it's helped wake up a lot of people to the truth. This world has a lot of bad, but it also has a lot of good.
a019cc No.15236713
>>15236348
To be fair wanting to protect your borders is racist. You are discriminating on who you want to come into your country, just like you discriminate on who you want in your home, and just like white people used to have the freedom of association to discriminate on who lived in their neighborhoods or did business with them. The problem isn't racism, racism is natural and healthy in moderation. You should hate the things and people that seek to destroy or invade the things or people you love. The problem is they've weaponized that term and turned it into the equivalent of a modern day witch/witch hunt because it would be "problematic" for the Jews to retain control over an ethnically homogeneous and united society, who would be their proletariat? Class warfare already failed with whites multiple times, as much as they've exacerbated the problem.
3661e0 No.15236843
It's too damn difficult to make a game/movie/book with a cyberpunk theme without any political focus.
The question is: what focus would it be.
55ad39 No.15236857
>>15232724
>That power can come from money, hierarchies, technology and violence.
What about gender, sexuality and autism?
9c19fa No.15236859
>>15233037
Reminds me of Earth 2160.
>we will give modding sdk to modders
<if you're not Polish you can go fuck yourself lmao
01c60b No.15236888
>>15236396
> his video on the why the wall needs to be built was surprisingly good.
his video on hollywood communism and the truth about mccarthy was also good very good.
ab59bb No.15236904
>>15236859
Should have been born Polish lmao
543def No.15236914
>>15232838
Capitalism is a liberal left wing philosophy, its only called "right wing" by the culturally marxist because they can only think in the left/right dichotomy and so everything they are against has to be on the right.
8fa595 No.15236953
e36d1b No.15236961
>>15234166
>about fantasy games having magic
Not every fantasy setting has a magic system, and cyberpunk deals first and foremost with the nature of future technology and its possible negative effects on society. If politics, especially pro-liberal politcs, doesn't make sense for a particular cyberpunk story, then yeah, I don't want to hear it. That being said, the Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop often dealt with politics, so OP is faggot.
96bf9a No.15237002
>>15236135
That's not CDPR you thumbnail posting retard. >>15236131
d094d4 No.15237011
>>15236961
if a fantasy game doesnt have magic elements to it then its not a fantasy game its just gay historical garbage and dick dick suck
88b932 No.15237068
>>15236914
>Capitalism is a liberal left wing philosophy
Fucking binary politics thinkers. You are getting retarded with each day.
18f80c No.15237425
theyre poles, so at least it will be anti-commie. anyone got that picture of a commie dying from the trailer?
a354e8 No.15237434
>>15232724
Will it be about how you need to keep rapefugees out of the city?
f3ec69 No.15237435
>>15232724
Hot garbage dumpster fire on arrival?
a354e8 No.15237438
a354e8 No.15237451
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15234997
Why didn't (((they))) declare war on Stalin taking half of Poland and instigating the Katyn Massacre?
4b4cc2 No.15237482
>>15237425
What? There's no way that's a thing.
8ca131 No.15237491
a13138 No.15237500
>>15232740
they said from the very beginning (and it was also the main reason use to justifie FULL nudity) that there will be a social commentary related to trans humanism .
81de8b No.15237504
>>15232724
>one angry gamer
MAXIMUM GAMERGOY
a13138 No.15237526
>>15232970
>mentally ill people have mental breakdown about someone
OH VEY! HE MUST BE SOMEONE IMPORTANT!
8b950a No.15237528
>>15237500
There's a difference between transhumanism and trans humanism.
a13138 No.15237563
>>15237528
no there is not.
'transhumanism' and 'trans humanism' is the same thing.
the 2nd is only the 'Etymological' writing
transhumanism come from the latin trāns (“across, on the far side, beyond”). + humanism.
so if you are implying sjw shit because "omg he said "trans" that mean trap, fags SJW etc…
=> GTFO you triggered faggot you are no better than tumblr's retards.. and on that note:
>one angry gamer
for fuck sake, summer at it's finest
2a9f46 No.15237587
>>15233005
Yeah man, i'm going to pay money, and use what very little free time i've got in the day to listen to you and your butt buddies drone on about your personal politics. What I love about retards like you, is you're incapable of understanding that people don't need your shit political opinions in their life, and the vast majority wont pay you money to hear that stupid shit in the very sparse free time they already have. Undoubtedly you're another fucking neet or socialist who browses the internet all day at work and has no concept of how the common working man feels about your bs or how valuable the bare amount of free time they have really is.
But I like that. It's why your kind inevitably keep failing. Just like wolfenstein and andromeda.
2a9f46 No.15237593
>>15233114
I used to like Avellone until I realize how much of an SJW and soyboy he is. IIRC he even went to resetera and apologized for some writing shit he'd done in games they didn't like. Guy has no backbone.
>>15236888
He learned that shit from molyneux
Since some anons kept posting molyneux videos at him during the trump election cycle
e60f32 No.15237611
>>15234440
The appearance side of things, I knew a few. But a lot of people don't understand that most construction workers, mechanics, or really most blue collar workers build a shitload of muscle along the sides of their body and their core - and this has the unfortunate side effect of making them look overweight. My sister once regaled me of how her uncle, a construction worker, was insulted and jeered at by a dude on his way to work, and then invited the man to punch him in the gut as hard as he could. Now, the insulting party was no soyboy weakling, but it was pretty clear he was more of a gym bunny than an honest worker and didn't know how to throw a punch right.
Fucker broke his thumb, to be short about it, on the dense muscle that made up my uncle's gut. Said uncle then laughed and walked away.
This fat-seeming appearance, blue-collar careers, and general gravity towards nature and guns leads to a certain stereotype that I believe can be rather unfair.
f960c5 No.15237622
>>15237504
>>15237563
>one angry gamer
Great news resource together with niche gamer outside of /v/.
a13138 No.15237626
>>15237587
>and the vast majority wont pay you money to hear that stupid shit in the very sparse free time they already have.
Precisely my little slave goy. you wouldn't want to cultivate yourself and get a bigger brain, your free time is not for that. go on watch the last clip of shitty pop music or meaningless activites that bring nothing but waste your time .
but hey! at least you had fun :^) and don't forget, 8 o'clock tomorow without delay or you are fired
2a9f46 No.15237633
>>15237626
>cultivate your brain by listening to marxist rhetoric
Nigger, if I want to cultivate my brain i'll read a fucking book. Go be a leech on society and your parents elsewhere, you useless piece of trash.
It's bad enough your parents have to deal with your failed carcass daily, I don't need to too.
4b4cc2 No.15237639
>Be dude who likes robots and robot accessories
>Enjoy cybernetics, drones, cool futuristic weapons
>Want to be a four-armed robot martial artist with laser eyes, rocket feet and stealth armor with a gun-drone for backup
>Or I can be a big fucking tank on two legs with big fucking guns because why the hell not
>Never gonna get it because politics
I just wanna have fun. I'm gonna pirate this game anyway.
a13138 No.15237643
>>15237633
>he doesn't want to know what his enemies thinks
yea, i am pretty sure you never had any real discussion or argumentation with anyone outside of your own echo chamber.
keep circlejerking, this will lead you nowhere.
<he isn't realising that he is exactly what a sjw are.
kek
de2106 No.15237645
>>15234135
In lore technology is so advanced you CAN, in theory, change completely your sex and even have ovaries. But of course classic shadowrun was not only anti corporativist, but against the madness of humanity in general.
2a9f46 No.15237661
>>15237643
>If you don't buy our games and listen to our propaganda, you're just like us
Your bait is stale, and you won't be getting my shekels for your subpar marxist rhetoric.
>exactly what a sjw are
And sjws are most infamous for subverting companies, communities and developers, not for telling you to fuck off, you dumb nigger.
That'll be the last (you) you'll be getting from me. Go get a rope and hang yourself already, and do your parents the favor.
a13138 No.15237669
>>15237661
>If you don't buy our games and listen to our propaganda, you're just like us
strawman-ing that much
kill yourself
8ca131 No.15237690
>>15237526
I mean it's not like he is the leader of the USA.
6a438e No.15237713
>>15232733
Indeed, but they'll twist the genre to be pro commie bullshit, in the same way they twist 1984 to be anti-Trump.
8a15f7 No.15237723
>>15237643
If I wanted to see more of their bilge I'd go to fucking leddit. Spoiler alert: they're all fucking retarded and entitled twenty year olds with no life experience whatsoever in denial over their ignorance and pathetic lives, who would backstab their families and friends for any material gain in their narcissistic worldview.
6a438e No.15237725
>>15233147
>Doom
You know they're politicizing Doom, right?
8ca131 No.15237731
>>15237713
>1984
That whole book was pretty much a warning over Far left totalitarianism how they don't understand this is beyond me.
>>15237723
I hate millennials.
894408 No.15237752
>>15237731
>That whole book was pretty much a warning over Far left totalitarianism
>This dystopian novel is about this thing i don't like, it can't possibly apply to what i like
a13138 No.15237772
>>15237723
>If I wanted to see more of their bilge I'd go to fucking leddit
that's your problem right here.
Instead of getting info from intelligent people, the source: 'You' prefer going to the 12 years old retard.
why? are you genuinely afraid of something? ²
this is almost like prefering to go to Kindergarten or edgy pre-teen to 'debate' with the kids rather than with people who are actually able to think. And you even acknowledge that! So even more so: why?
² It's ok if you are, but if you are: what's even the point in going to Kindergarten/reddit ? what's the point?
(nb: Just a reminder that my argument is just answer to the retard who wrote that >>15237587 )
cdc3fe No.15237780
>>15237643
>He doesn't want to know what his enemies think
<We're not all bombarded by what they think every day through "popular" media
If you think the "enemy" is some retarded tranny leftypol fag sperging about marxist dialectic then you're as retarded as they are. The enemy is the government and corporate progressive superstructure, they're not interested in an actual "communist" society, they want open borders to deflate wages and soft socialism to cripple smaller competitors who can't afford to legally circumvent fucked up tax and regulation. Arguing primarily against the gay communist retard is exactly what corporate oligarchs want.
We all should be focusing
1) On the absurdity of such nonsensical propaganda, and how it is contrary to the welfare of their family and community
2) On such propaganda's true corporatist nature. People are already conditioned to hate the companies that fuck them in the ass, this has huge untapped potential with normalfags.
Neither of these strategies requires buying any cultural marxist garbage, and only cursory review of what they're saying. If anything you shouldn't try to argue with them at all, be like Trump and just redirect the thrust of their "grievance" back toward your own arguments, don't try to dissect their gobbledygook. Just emphasize all the positive things your position can do for people, and top it off by ridiculing the sorry excuse for a "person" that wants to stop you.
dc4df8 No.15237801
>>15237752
Orwell has been documented as saying the book was inspired by Stalinist rule. It's by the guy who also wrote Animal Farm, you shouldn't be surprised.
98d1f4 No.15237804
>>15237752
>the curtains are blue is a deep philosophical statement even if the author says otherwise
08504e No.15237811
13bbe2 No.15237859
The problem is not politics, but IDENTITY politics. Rather than big themes like wealth and power, now it's all about bullshit like feminism, transgenderism, cultural appropriation, media representation, micro-aggressions, intersectionality…
8a15f7 No.15237898
>>15237772
Who said I use that astroturfed platform and give its company any data with an account? It's almost like there's this obscure online practice called "lurking" and reading the garbage comments. It's not a difficult practice when there are legions offering their stupidity and publicly for all to see.
And perusing it comes in handy because every "intelligent" person I come across IRL turns out to just be regurgitating the nintenyearold opinions word for word. It really gets funny every time they whip out their iPhone when they can't cone up with a rebuttal. I can already read Das Kapital online and mock it and other works that survive as modern substitutes for religuous mysticism.
8ca131 No.15237922
>>15237752
Leftycuck I understand you don't like how the book is pretty blatant on far left shit fucking the world.
5a6e9e No.15238019
>>15237801
But there's nothing inherently left-wing about the book, though. It could very easily apply to a right-wing ruler as well, the Nazis for instance.
79ed5b No.15238048
>>15237801
Yeah he was a socialist writing about how his movement can go too far.
6a438e No.15238158
>>15237752
>the moment when you realize, you're the exact kind of idiot we're talking about in this conversation.
I wish I could see your face when it happens.
5a6e9e No.15238179
>>15238158
>implying Hitler isn't your big brother
>implying all of /pol/ doesn't dream about being a card-carrying party menber for a job
>implying it's not your hatred of outside forces that keeps you together
5accbf No.15238196
>>15238179
Hatred is why people join, it usually transforms into love for one's race after a while. And it's hatred not for external but internal enemies, people who never had to interact with a nigger for instance don't hate them. Unlike the Soviet Union you didn't need to be a member of the party in Germany to get a good job, plenty of scientists weren't.
278dd3 No.15238199
>>15238179
>>implying Hitler isn't your big brother
He's not, NatSocs are directly opposed to the mass surveillance shit because it goes against human nature (namely, the need for privacy).
>implying all of /pol/ doesn't dream about being a card-carrying party member
This is true
>for a job
This is flase
>implying it's not your hatred of outside forces that keeps you together
Our love of our people keeps us together. The hate part is merely a fun byproduct. Look up the effects of oxytocin on human psychology.
5a6e9e No.15238210
>>15238196
All I hear is "We are all together because we hate niggers and jew". Unless you wanna argue those are part of your country, as in you believe they should be, it's still the hatred for other people that keeps you together.
Why don't you go have another Two Minutes of Hate, shouting about the leftists, the kikes, etc?
>>15238199
Idol worship was what I was refering, which you pretty much do about Hitler like they did with the Big Brother. But when you're talking about books you never read, I guess this is as far as you go.
I'm also pretty sure /pol/ would be all up for mass surveilance if it was for the right targets, I've seen much worse shit suggested by them as a good idea, like China's social network being a good way to filter out undesirables.
>This is flase
>Our love of our people keeps us together.
For "love of our people", you sure spend a lot of time talking about anything BUT that. Thank the heavens the jews are still around, you'd be blamed for your own failings if they weren't. :^)
5accbf No.15238250
>>15238210
>Idol worship was what I was refering, which you pretty much do
Only esoteric hitlerists do it that much. Otherwise it's just as much as any other human group, you need a face and that's Hitler. Having idols is more of a lefty thing actually, just look how you worship Marx and Lenin, not to mention the Che (TM) t-shirts.
>I'm also pretty sure /pol/ would be all up for mass surveilance
If we stick to the facts instead of speculation, the only people who were for mass surveillance were commies and capitalists. Capitalists doing it better since it's less in-your-face than the soviet or chink models.
>For "love of our people", you sure spend a lot of time talking about anything BUT that.
Go to /pol/ if that's the discussion you want. It'd (rightfully) get deleted from /v/ since that's way too off-topic.
5accbf No.15238267
>>15238210
For an example of the importance of having a human face, compare the impact of Snowden and when people found out about room 641A. Nobody short of nerds cared about the NSA room in AT&T's facility, but when a whistleblower talked about the spying the general public got interested in the story (not enough to change anything of course).
5a6e9e No.15238346
>>15238250
>we can't have a political ideology unless there's an idol to rally behind
Weak and pathetic. There's no true strength here, only an idealized perfect version of someone that never was as great as he's painted as and you'll never achieve anyway. If you need an idol, you're not an ideology, you're a boy's band.
>just look how you worship Marx and Lenin
Point a single post where I imply any of those 2 stooges was anything but a liability to the human race.
All I said was that 1984 was about authoritarian governments and it would apply equally both to the left and to the right if they rose to the same positition.
But keeping making assumptions about your "oponents" and you'll win many internet arguments, don't worry.
>If we stick to the facts instead of speculation
If we stick to the facts, I've seen /pol/ advocate for the use of drugs to become buff because the SS did it, and that Chinese social network was indeed considered something good for society by them.
Mass surveilance is practically nothing compared to those two so it's not just "speculation", it's "likely".
>>15238267
That has nothing to do with having a face attached to it. It was how Snowden was treated and the discussion surrounding whistleblowers that made the situation different, and he's still not an idol to rally behind anyway, no ideology to follow in his steps.
5333a4 No.15238416
>>15237451
Stalin attacked Poland only after Brits and French already declared war on Germany. Warring both Germany and USSR would be too big an undertaking, so they just let it go and concentrated on Germany.
6a268c No.15240177
>>15237645
Correct, but it was never something celebrated to the point of annoyance. Sex change through cyberware and bioware has been available to players for 30+ years, and it was never something that was in the spotlight. Which is why throwing that tranny shit in our faces in these games is absurd these days. People are only going to care because these "progressives" are going to use it as a political tool with their revisionist history shit.
c3dda8 No.15240604
>>15238196
That's a good one, I'll see you pic related…
c3dda8 No.15240622
>>15238346
>I've seen /pol/ advocate for the use of drugs to become buff because the SS did it, and that Chinese social network was indeed considered something good for society by them.
I've seen /leftypol/'s BO suck a dick, what's your point?
Polite sage for double post.
299ea4 No.15243312
Cyberpunk always is dystopian. I expect questlines that would fit well in the Judge Dredd universe out of this game, and that is the minimum i would expect from a cyberpunk setting.
SJW mongrels, transexual parasites, and digusting shitskin hybrids fit well in the dystopian style.
It's just a shame CD Projekt Red is going to fuck it up and make it about their (((Narrative))). Those types need to be villified and put on a platform of disgust and hate in universes like these to allow the main character to take a morally gray point that works best in this setting.
Cyberpunk needs a character that isnt good or evil, but pragmatic to whats going on. A sociopath. If he sides with one cause and its the "correct" storyline it ruins the Cyberpunk aesthetic. Anarchy rules.
For Red to do this right, he cant side with the shitskins, the trannys, the police, or the whites. He has to be out for himself. Theyll fuck it up though. They always all fuck it up now. Explicitly morally gray main characters are a dead art.
c3dda8 No.15246508
>>15243312
Explicitly morally gray main characters are Cyberpunk 2020 bread and butter though, I just don't see CDPR fucking this up as badly as everyone believes they will. The poz in The Witcher 3 was relegated to a glorified side quest in DLC and the idea to include it was from a single dev if I remember correctly.