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f29c1d No.15220836

This game actually is a pile of broken shit.

The platform they built the game on has potential - the map, the factions, the battle sub-game - but everything they build on top of that is total and complete nonsense and is almost unplayable.

The overworld map promises strategy, intrigue, challenge, and emergent gameplay but ends up delivering NONE of this.

It all boils down to a grind. Grinding reknown and grinding NPC reputation, constantly polling questgivers for the mere privilege of being able to do a repetitive pointless shallow quest to bump up your reputation with an NPC one point out of 100.

You need NPC reputation so you can automate some of the empire maintenance in the late game, and you need reknown so you have an army big enough

I reiterate: this game is a total pile of shit failure.

*You are constantly punished for succeeding for absolutely no reason other than the mental retardation of the developers.*

Examples:

Grinding reknown destroys NPC reputation inevitably as every lord throws a fit every time you challenge them, so you have to choose between NPCs you want to grind for increased army size and ones you want to grind for rep to try to get them to follow you later. Meanwhile the NPCs constantly change factions, so you will be forced to fight NPCs you want rep with or let them rape your land because they will shit themselves if you challenge them to combat.

Also NPCs freak out about literally anything and everything. There are tons of mechanisms to automatically lose rep with NPCs and basically zero mechanism to automatically gain rep.

You are penalized for winning constantly. The only properties you can hold are cities. Castles and villages are a net loss, they somehow end up as a negative drain on your finances due to "tax inefficiency", which you can't do anything about.

If you give away your conquests you will suffer a massive loss of rep with all of your lords unless you grind through the NPC chat menus and are lucky enough to get the retarded cunts to all agree that one lord should get the property, and this is basically impossible for even one property.

Meanwhile there are cities you can conquer that give you 6 fiefs at once and the entire game is going on at the same time.

You end up being forced to play a game on rails within the sandbox, or forced to abandon your tens-of-hours save game because it's just too psychotically autistic to try to maintain the entire map singlehandedly.

Also the economics of the game make zero sense, it's almost impossible to get enough money fast enough to make armies to progress on the map at a non-autistic pace.

Seriously, this game promises so much, has the ability to deliver, and the retarded autistic commie devs just take a huge shit on it all.

It literally doesn't do one thing right beyond the game engine and the very basics, which they just copied from other games.

Every single thing they try to do on their own is a complete failure.

What pile of shit game, fuck everyone who thinks this is good. This is a proof of concept, not a game.

Bannerlord looks like it's just going to fall into the same trap: we are at the mercy of the autist programming the AI.

Bannerlord looks like what Skyrim is to Morrowind. They're focusing on the polish and not the scale and complexity of gameplay, which is the only justification for the game to begin with.

Also it will never be released.

God damn the video game industry is garbage. God damn are its consumers retarded. God damn.

79aaf5 No.15220892

no u


7f3fc8 No.15220905

A sensible post I really agree with. The game is a neat spectacle initially as you figure out how it works, building an army and everything, but the actual conclusion and later progress is unforgivably bad and 99.99% of players will never conquer the map. No mod I've seen tackles this problem, they only add more troops, quests, dialogue and subsystems.

Fixing this game would require making it far shorter, making war parties take much longer to reform after a defeat so battles are fewer and more decisive, make battles and tactics harder so you can't wipe the floor constantly making them only a chore, and deeply rework and improve the subsystems of relations, intrigue, fiefs, etc. to produce a much shorter, more cohesive, deeper and more complex game that actually considers being beaten.

The saving grace of this game is the multiplayer, it's one of the games I've had the most fun with.


30d50c No.15220960

>>15220836

Git gud

Some of the problems you list have in game solutions but the problem is that the game doesn't communicate them to the player.


f29c1d No.15220963

>>15220960

wrong. I already addressed the solutions the game presents and why they aren't solutions.


30d50c No.15220999

>>15220963

Wrong, you don't mention honor or lord personalities anywhere in your post. Both of which lead to an easy endgame if manipulated properly.

Not to mention how you leave out that the best way to grind reputation with lords is to beat him in a fight then letting him go.

You only half understand the game's features, it's no wonder it becomes a slog as end game approachs.


068baa No.15221048


30d50c No.15221096

>>15220963

Want more proof you have no idea what's going on? Time to dig through your OP.

>>15220836

>Castles and villages are a net loss, they somehow end up as a negative drain on your finances due to "tax inefficiency"

Tax inefficiency is a feature that only comes up if you own too much land at once. I can only assume you are giving yourself all the available land to avoid Lord conflicts because I see no other reason for you to have 6+ towns.

>There are tons of mechanisms to automatically lose rep with NPCs and basically zero mechanism to automatically gain rep.

Completely incorrect, honor is the best way to automatically get reputation. Not only does it give automatic rep, it gives it to lords that won't shit their pants constantly.

Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, the best way to grind rep is to beat a lord, then let him go. Lords with traitorous personalities will get angrier with you while lords with loyal personalities will gain reputation.

>If you give away your conquests you will suffer a massive loss of rep with all of your lords unless you grind through the NPC chat menus and are lucky enough to get the retarded cunts to all agree that one lord should get the property,

This is more proof that you've been constantly hiring traitorous lords. Lords tend to get angry like that for 3 reasons.

1. He has no land

2. You gave land to someone he hates

3. He has the "traitorous" personality setting

Don't hire every person who shows up at your doorstep. Most of the time they do that because they were kicked out of every other kingdom for being a traitor.

>Also the economics of the game make zero sense, it's almost impossible to get enough money fast enough to make armies to progress on the map at a non-autistic pace.

This literally makes no sense, how are you fucking up so bad you are running out of money? That's something you should have solved by Early game.

Did you not set up a single business? Are you not investing in your towns and protecting them from bandit attacks? Did you not get the prisoner skill so you could sell your enemies for loadsamoney?


e5e646 No.15221107

>>15220836

Git gud faggot


f29c1d No.15221161

>>15220999

>if manipulated properly

if endlessly grinded out

yeah I covered that, and you already defeated your post by admitting its all geared toward autistic grinding

it makes ZERO sense that you would get reputation and honor with the lord you let loose but not suffer a loss of reputation with your faction for contradicting its interests by letting the lord raise another army against you while the war is going on.

But anyway, you admit that as long as you refuse to take the benefits of your victory and play to the nonsense autistic model you can win. In this supposed sandbox game. GREAT POST kid, you really vindicated the hours you wasted.


30d50c No.15221181

>>15221161

You have the typing style of Chris chan, are you severely autistic?

>it makes ZERO sense that you would get reputation and honor with the lord you let loose but not suffer a loss of reputation with your faction for contradicting its interests by letting the lord raise another army against you while the war is going on.

It makes perfect gameplay sense, since the best part of the game is the combat. So logically you want to tie most of the feature into it. That's the same reason why almost every quest features it in some way.

>GREAT POST kid

Pfft… nothing… personnel… kid…

*teleports behind you*

>you really vindicated the hours you wasted.

The joke here is that all videogames are the same waste of time. Why don't you bring up an example of a good game. Judging from your posts it's either Overwatch or Undertale.


f29c1d No.15221189

>>15221181

you're just a submissive subhuman that will accept any program set in front of him and defend it blindly


30d50c No.15221255

>>15221189

Are you that contrarian who wants to start stupid arguments all over /v/? There's a perfect website for you called 4chan.com. It's full of subhuman degenerates so you'll fit right in.


f29c1d No.15221267

>>15221255

you came with ZERO rebuttal and actually just provided evidence for my points, but yet concluded that I was wrong.


30d50c No.15221278

>>15221267

But that's wrong, I came with many rebuttals and a lot of evidence and you were destroyed so hard that you resorted to namecalling like a woman. Now I am completely sure you're that retarded contrarian who starts stupid arguments on here to "practice" how to argue.


85e37a No.15221294

Yes, the whole game boils down to grinding. However, all forms of grinding are fed through combat, which is fun. Therefore, grinding in mount and blade is fun.


82ce43 No.15221295

File: a772fcee3ac96b6⋯.jpg (127.73 KB, 831x639, 277:213, a772fcee3ac96b6808d356a575….jpg)

>>15221255

>4chan.com

>.com


753745 No.15221371

>>15220836

>he actually kidnapped lords after fighting them

I played this for the first time a week ago and had no trouble becoming king of half the map within a couple days of playing, most of the issues you're describing are your own fault. The reason you have issue giving away your conquests is that you have too many lords, don't just accept everyone that walks into your court, and don't bother trying to gain rep through dialogue. All of my lords are former enemies who I beat a lot in fights but always let go, giving me a lot of honor and making them love me. I only have 7 of them but each of them controls a substantial portion of my kingdom and thus has a large army, and they don't get very pissed when I give land to one of them since there are so few.

>but if you only gain rep with enemy lords then how do you gain rep with allied ones?

You can also gain a ton of rep with lords by rescuing kidnapped ones or swooping in just as they're about to lose a fight and winning it for them.

One issue I'll agree with you on, however, is that armies are built up way too quickly. I would take a big city that was lightly defended and have a band of enemies three or four times my size at my doorstep, defend the invasion and destroy the armies of 8 lords, then by the time I've secured the city and placed a good garrison (an in-game week at most) they'll all have their armies back and I'll have to do the same thing again for the next city. Apparently in Butterlord the enemy lords have to go around recruiting dudes just like you instead of magically restocking their armies, but unfortunately it won't matter because Butterlord will never come out.


f29c1d No.15221380

>>15221371

>just do shit that logically makes no sense so you get good boy points in game

>the game isn't bad, you are!

yeah, i should have known better than to post this on this board, you are blind subhumans that will brainlessly defend your behavior no matter what


f29c1d No.15221386

>>15221294

it's not just grind, but the way the developers force you to grind the exact way they prescribe…in their 'sandbox' game


a22564 No.15221392

Well it is a 10 year old game now.


6c81dd No.15221396

>>15220836

Ignore the faggots, you are right about the criticism, OP


cb5a52 No.15221404

Some later version(s) of the game has a bug where lords CONSTANTLY will get indicted.

Either play a previous version or get a mod like diplomacy to fix that shit.


0cdbf3 No.15221409

OP you're finding out the hard way that these meme games are only good when they are pumped full of mods that make the broken and poorly balanced systems the developers implemented actually work. Even then the mod implementations can vary significantly and in some cases be perfectly fine but in others absolutely fucked from incompetence.

Sorry you fell for it, but I can't blame you.


753745 No.15221430

>>15221380

>logically makes no sense

Did you not get the message that people in the setting really give a shit about honor and respect? If you want to be king then you want everyone to like you as much as possible, even your enemies, so you should do whatever you can to make them like you even if it isn't a good tactical decision in the short run. If you don't want to be king then you don't have to worry about this stuff and can kidnap people as you please, in fact it sounds like you just really don't enjoy being a king at all so why bother becoming one?


607799 No.15221819

>>15221409

the real point to take out of all of this is how voraciously hungry people are for a real gaming experience. they are so desperate they will endlessly delude themselves


4e07d9 No.15221854

File: 16598db43f2da8c⋯.png (118.16 KB, 600x400, 3:2, horo.png)

>>15220836

I actually agree with you op. I liked the setting, but i had to stop playing just because the game is shit. There are mods however, but they don't fix main problem with the game just like mods for skyrim don't do.


607799 No.15221907

>>15221430

this is exactly the kind of top-down communistic autist thinking that the developers had when making this mess of shit


438c5f No.15221931

File: 574b352a6c891bc⋯.jpg (57.77 KB, 750x543, 250:181, oh wow.jpg)

>realism thread

>just OP bitching about mechanics of the game and calling anyone who proves him wrong an autist

I think you're just shit at video games


b5de94 No.15221940

>>15221931

nobody proved the OP wrong


04ec43 No.15222277

There are definitely problems with the game. I have over 1000 hours and have never completed a run, usually because it just becomes tedious to maintain an empire.

But, you're mostly wrong and an autistic retard. Some of the mechanics in the game aren't spelled out for you and don't quite make sense and wouldn't be acceptable in a game released today. The primary issue you're having is that you're "grinding reknown" hike trying to manage property and deal with lords. This is retarded in the game. You may as well complain that shooting someone with an arrow doesn't cause them to limp and die of wounds later. That's just not how the game works and you're fucking retarded.

Go play sonic or something more your speed, autist.


366dd9 No.15222282

OP is a retard.

I have conquered the vanilla campaign with 100% completion and unmodded. I have so many honorable and martial lords at 100% loyalty that I literally couldn't give them all a proper piece of my kingdom. (I retained lordship over all cities) Once you understand the mechanics, throw a few parties, go to war, rinse and repeat, victory is certain. The game is a grind, but if it wasn't a grind it wouldn't be worthy.

OP, GG


607799 No.15222313

>>15222282

>>15222277

you are so fucking authoritarian and brainless

are you literally retarded? the thread is about how the mechanics make absolutely no sense and are not worth respect and utterly contradict the point of a SANDBOX GAME

where in the fuck do you see anyone arguing that the game is impossible to complete? NO WHERE

It's simply not worth it.

i'm not kidding you, get a realistic self image, you're fucking illiterate, retarded, and soulless


04ec43 No.15222339

>>15222313

You should be playing in a sandbox with all the other kids in your SPED class, autistic retard


f32048 No.15222387

Mount and Blade is fun for a little while but gets really boring fast


d2705a No.15222388

File: 8a0382d305a4f45⋯.jpg (132.55 KB, 513x370, 513:370, 00.JPG)

>>15220836

tl;dr

OP can't stop sucking cock


04e327 No.15222390

>>15220836

It seems to me like you are trying to play conqueror in a game that is 50% politics.

>You are penalized for winning constantly. The only properties you can hold are cities. Castles and villages are a net loss, they somehow end up as a negative drain on your finances due to "tax inefficiency", which you can't do anything about.

Of course towns will suck if you just take five whole towns without any sort of trade or commerce.

If you're getting "only" one point of reputation, this says to me you didn't upgrade your "Intelligence" nor your persuasion. You are making the game harder on yourself by not considering a whole aspect of gameplay.

Do us all a favor, and play the game using all the tools at your disposal, before making asinine remarks about a game that requires more thought than Warcraft 2


607799 No.15222400

>>15221940

>nobody proved the OP wrong

nobody proved the OP wrong

seriously why do you pieces of shit think you're entitled to an opinion? You won't engage with the facts. It's really amazing how fucking delusional these fanboys are.


607799 No.15222406

STOP TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME CREATIVELY, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO PLAY THIS SAND BOX GAME, GOD YOU ARE SO BAD OP


ec77f2 No.15222413

File: 7e8b0963f71345e⋯.png (41.82 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 7e8b0963f71345e1c483b83dfc….png)

>>15220836

Fuck you too, fag. Games fun. And mods make it even better.

>>15221295

>He doesn't use the superior .com versions of 8chan and 4chan

Fucking newfags, I swear.


eb4503 No.15222449

>>15220836

>thought it was a M&B thread

>its just some queer bitching

Wew


04ec43 No.15222459

>>15222406

>Try swinging your sword at the enemy and blocking their attacks

WHAT THE FUCK!??!

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SANDBOX GAME!?!?!??

I WANT TO PUNCH PEOPLE WITH AUTO-LOCK-ON AND RUN AROUND NAKED BACKWARDS INTO ENEMIES

THIS NOT A SANDBOX GAME!??!!

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????


0b1cfd No.15222471

>>15220836

Your core complaint can be fixed in literal seconds by just editing one value in a text file. It's what I did. I literally just added a 0 to the reputation gain for completing a mission or something (I forgot what exactly, it's been forever) from +1 to +10. Bam. Grind gone.


256460 No.15222642

I hate to be part of the cancer dark souls ruined video games with, but you need to Git Gud©, OP.


510bef No.15222649

Remember warband never ever


256460 No.15222653

>>15222649

>warband came out in 2010

What did he mean by this?


510bef No.15222660

>>15222653

Whatever mnb2 is called argh me brain


d23448 No.15222670

File: 05ba581c349b57a⋯.jpg (28.78 KB, 683x800, 683:800, 05ba581c349b57afa9541c9065….jpg)

>>15222660

bannerlord


510bef No.15222678

>>15222670

Yeah that

God damn it where the fuck is it?


256460 No.15222687

>>15222678

>he still thinks bannerlord is real


0aebc4 No.15222694

File: f25dc68639e2180⋯.jpg (18.29 KB, 471x352, 471:352, three darts is too much.jpg)

>OP is a faggot complaining that it's not autistic in the right way

>goes on a cocksucking spree to prove that he doesn't fully understand the system he claims is fundamentally broken

>anyone who disagrees is a subhuman communist redditor goon boogeyman

rhodoks get the rope, faggot


9f4bf8 No.15222708

>tfw you solo a siege defense while outnumbered 20 to one with a morning star because sieges are so retarded that they actually thought only having one ladder made sense only to lose because some faggot AI can't figure how to walk up that one ladder.

Mount and Blade is a shit ridden joke of a game, sad thing is that, with the right mods, it's a lot more fun than most of other shit out there which tells you about the collective merits of (((game developers))) in CY.


607799 No.15222820

>>15222708

this

i don't understand how this is controversial

the video game community needs a schism.


598934 No.15222846

File: f02fbdd7f3e97ed⋯.png (518.68 KB, 1300x1100, 13:11, 1407781934539.png)

Here OP, let me help you out.


510bef No.15222894


5b5bd8 No.15222900


5b5bd8 No.15222905

File: d3125cd380a64e2⋯.jpg (136.23 KB, 736x871, 736:871, laughing gorilla.jpg)

>>15222900

i was hoping to play an actual video game but i guess i'll try it.


4971c1 No.15222909


aac8ae No.15222915

File: e2d539cc60a2b3b⋯.jpg (2.5 MB, 2588x7543, 2588:7543, 1426983736288.jpg)

Hopefully butterlord comes out soon. Its funny that MonHun got a port to PC before it came out.

>>15222846

Hatred should be on this list.


d23448 No.15222933

>>15222678

there are dev blogs that they publish on steam and their own site. bannerlord looks about 70% done at least. they have most of the scenes, the ai, formations, models etc done. turks are lazy though so no time soon.


3766f3 No.15222955

>>15222846

rollin rollin rollin rollin rollin


22a795 No.15223056

>>15222846

Rolling.

>>15222915

Rolling.


22a795 No.15223063

>>15223056

>Hitman and furshit

Mixed feels.


aac8ae No.15223152

>>15222915

>warcraft III

I've been meaning to play it anyway, huh


510bef No.15223405

>>15222933

I blame erdogan for this!

T. Aussie who went to Gallipoli


cd5cef No.15223451


68a1c2 No.15223453

I stopped reading at "almost unplayable". How idiotic can a man be to call something he knows is played by niche hobbyists for thousands of hours each is "almost unplayable"?


cd5cef No.15223454

>>15223451

Fuck that hipster shit, re-roll.


6dacbb No.15223481

>>15222846

Here I go.


af8032 No.15223656


cb9c9d No.15223877

op is a stupid faggot

rolling


cb9c9d No.15223883

>>15223877

nice, i'll be taking blue dragon princess.


6af070 No.15223888

dubs


634b30 No.15223898

File: e59f5f68b29ae7e⋯.webm (1.19 MB, 352x262, 176:131, gets.webm)

>>15223888 (checked)


78dd5a No.15224018


c25bd3 No.15224021

roll


a82699 No.15224999

>>15223453

>literal groupthink as an argument

why do you fucking animals even come here

you're leftists

honestly have to be bots


64c4e6 No.15226737


62a22e No.15226797

>>15220836

Sounds like the game isn't for you, I hope you can find a game to love as much as MBfags love MB.

>>15222846

>>15222915

1d100


10d64c No.15226826

File: 921efd4e9143f9b⋯.gif (1.3 MB, 200x150, 4:3, 921efd4e9143f9b02acc8692b1….gif)

<Muh renown grind

>Have several options to gain them

Amazing critique, the commie accusation was really thought provoking.

Also got to love the same resident 4 autists throwing a hissy fit yet again while vehemently defending the grindiest of JRPGs.


768108 No.15230312

>>15226826

they literally designed the game to force a grind when it would be trivial to automate most tasks and create a grander strategy late game

but the devs are just retarded communist niggers, not unlike yourself. Enforcing your mentally defective autist ideas top-down, while having no real point behind it all besides your brainwashed compulsion to bark at your master's enemies


06df72 No.15230332

>>15222915

rolling


fb7b12 No.15230345

>>15220836

>You are constantly punished for succeeding

>You are penalized for winning constantly.

<I'm so clueless about how this game works that I don't even realize I'm failing.


248146 No.15230383

HOLY SHIT BONERLORD IS OUT


85e37a No.15230388


eb061d No.15230565

>>15222846

rock n roll


6b0ad4 No.15230623

>>15230383

Bonerload sounds way more funny than bonerlord


75062e No.15230644

>>15222915

Rollin!


4c63e9 No.15230653

>>15230623

>Not Butterload


2bd752 No.15230654

File: 0e21dc8d1cc5b53⋯.jpg (489.65 KB, 900x669, 300:223, __half_life_half_life_2_an….jpg)

>>15222846

Rollando


e44592 No.15230684


055d28 No.15230726


438c5f No.15230767

>>15222846

Rollin mane


78338c No.15230787

>>15222846

not gonna play what I roll, but I wanna see what it is.


78338c No.15230792

>>15230787

actually fuck it, that's easy enough to play for a bit.


6d8465 No.15230867


0b1cfd No.15231566

Why the fuck was this bumplocked?


c45ba7 No.15231772

>>15231566

because this entire site is operated by israeli military intelligence and no real conversation is allowed


aa80a6 No.15231860

>>15231566

Warband is one of the protected games. Don't talk shit about it.


af09df No.15231869

>>15222846

It's 4am so I guess it counts if I do it after I wake up


af09df No.15231874

>>15231869

>69 isn't an eroge


78bf1b No.15236862

>>15220836

I think what bugs me the most is the undynamic, static structure of the companions and lords. I would have prefered them to be randomized. I don't want to fucking look up guides on how to get the most optimal parties with characters that already are leveld.

I want to hire some rando in a tavern with level and an automatically generated backstory.


e66eda No.15237313




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