/v/ - Video Games

>reading vidya books

why

>reading anything but non fiction

>>>/lit/

>>15217069

I am on vacation and have little better to do.

>>15217069

The games are based on the books, not adaptations of the games, and from what I hear - the games barely even resemble the books despite being a direct sequel of sorts. Chronologically they are, and due to licensing, they are - but from I hear the author is horribly buttblasted over the fact that the games are massively more popular and successful than the books ever were. So he doesn't consider them canon, even though his publishers do.

Triss dies halfway into the Witcher 3 and forces you to marry Yennifer anyways so it doesn't really matter in the end.

>>15217062

Geralt barely touches any woman in the books, I can recall 5 or 6 in total which is more than yeneffer fucks, dont read them if that's gonna bother you

>>15217151

This tbh. Sapkowski is an old fart, and I don't expect old farts to understand video games. It's only natural to be put off when you lose a fat stack of cash and become overshadowed.

His books are worth reading, but his short stories are significantly better than the long novels, much like the side quests and main quests in TW3.

>>15217069

The Halo books were bretty gud until the fucking devs started cannibalizing them for game plot

>>15217062

The only game that needs a book is the blood omen, and soul reaver games so we can imagine all that dialogue in the main characters voices.

>>15217115

>Geralt barely touches any woman in the books

did you even fucking read Sword of Destiny or The Last Wish? like the first chapter of two of Sword, he's banging some amazonian huntresses. I'm considering giving Witcher 3 another shot because I've consigned that W2 is just utter shit and worth forgetting it even exists

>>15217062

>I feel like the book is giving me new perspective that is making it extremely easy to guess motives and explain small detail I know happen in the games spoiling them.

After reading a shitload of novels about 15 years ago, I can very easily predict the plot, events, and sometimes even the dialogue in modern fiction. On the plus side, I no longer watch TV, and could write a better character than most writers, without even trying. Actually, that's terrible. Being able to predict what happens in a book, game, or movie barely through the first act means nothing good.

books are so good though. in the end you treat books and game as totally separate things.

>>15217113

You're making stuff up, anon. Don't lie like that.

>>15217062

>In other words please help find a good argument for me why I should reconsider Yennifer

because its the current century, OP.

>>15217229

bad

>>15217069

good

>>15217062

>1 and done

Then good news faggot, the plagiarizing author of the books is salty that the new fans that gave him worldwide fame don't give a shit about the book.

>>15217062

Triss is a Wizard Lives Matter activist that smuggles refugees around, and therefore an inferior pick

>>15218172

>the plagiarizing author

Now I'm interested

>>15217611

Thanks anon I was pretty sure that was a lie. You made me feel better.

>>15217285

Its almost as if narratives have been the same for thousands of years. Immense amount of stories, folk tales, ranging from all peoples and cultures have damn near the same blueprints for characters and story arcs.

>>15218843

I'm talking stupid shit like jumpscares being predictable, and the progression of a plot being fucking 3rd grade creative writing assignment bullshit. Literary archetypes are not the reason why you can tell who the criminal is in a suspense drama right off the bat. Modern foreshadowing and dramatic irony are about as subtle as a cigarette to the eye.

>>15218514

There is another fantasy book with a protagonist that has white hair and uses a (one) sword.

That's pretty much where the similarities end. Because that Elric guy is the king of some overpowered mage nation that goes around doing fantasy stuff rather than a mutated monster hunter that is only tolerated by society because they need him.

It's only a superficial thing because of the hairstyle and the fact that swords are a thing. Not sure if any author can really lay claim on those things, but it feels nice to be a harsh critic of something popular.

It's such shame that we haven't goten witcher game where you just play witcher doing witcher stuff. Main quest would be there just to encourage explore places, it could be long witcher job not some massive kingdom threathing event.

The Witcher short stories are eh and the mainline books are downright trash - games really don't do a better job with the writing as seen here >>15220165 when to disincentivize the player from going with the best option they had to invent a downside from whole cloth by having the guy off his co-conspirators in a singularly out-of-character move (him quoting Macbeth does NOT make it better). It's a cheap hackjob very reminiscent of what New Vegas did with House and the Brotherhood of Steel. Anyhow, Witcher is at it's best when sticking to short stories.

What's worse is a lot of Euros swear by the books as if they were the highest literary standard, shoving it down everybody's throat whenever the topic of what the fuck I am reading pops up. Had the great pleasure of introducing said people to the Book of the Fallen and watch them fucking eat their words in the span of a fucking week.

PS. I agree about Essi Draven. That short story was particularly poignant.

>>15220450

Is this a outside bot script posting, because I find this very confusing. Because I made this thread and posted multiple times in it.

>>15220492

Lurk more.

>>15217174

>There's no real difference between reading and playing fiction.

But the difference is that you can fail and lose at video games, Books have no skill involved.

Otherwise you would be playing a David Cage game/

>Essi Daven Little Eye is the only true answer for who the best girl is

This, she was truly too good for the series. The real shame is that she's killed off in such an offhand manner. But pretty much every female character is superior to the eternal roastie that is Yennifer.

>>15221150

The story hit me really hard because I knew a similarly girl who passed way during surgery at the beginning of this year.

>>15217062

Triss sleeps with Philipa at one point. For this alone, she is an irredeemable dumpster fire that should be exterminated along with the rest of the Lodge.

>>15222825

This. Trissfags are nation wrecking traitors At least Yennefer stays out of that shit and stays loyal to Geralt and Ciri.

>>15223423

Agreed. Yenn and Triss (and just about every other woman in the books) has screwed Geralt over, slept with multiple partners, etc.

At the very least, Yenn wants Ciri to become independent. Triss deludes herself into thinking the Lodge is any way good for Ciri.

>>15223423

>>15223485

Please try to avoid major spoilers.

Essi Daven is girl who was truely the best to Geralt.

It honestly feels like though the author ham fisted Triss into that role, and if the author didn't have a fridged dominatrix fetish, they plot roles with Yennifer would have simply been swapped.

I disslike the books, they're extremelly medicore and the they're hailed as the greatest shit ever. Poland has better writers than Sapkowski, he doesn't deserve such recognition.

The books are pretty good and most of them are just compilations of short stories which I really like.

I think you're severely autistic if you can't read a book without first thinking it would ruin your gayme and then actually asking /v/ for advice.

>>15223645

Pretty sure there are only two books which were collections of short stories which are the first 2.

>>15218423

>Wizard Lives Matter activist

Are the Scoia'tael Elf Lives Matter activists?

>>15217190

Yeah 343 fucked that up, but to be fair, they fucked up almost everything else too. Also I just got done reading the Fall of Reach after an anon suggested it, and I enjoyed it. Thank you Halo Book Anon wherever you are

Gameplay-wise, Dragon's Dogma is the best Witcher game. You go around hunting monsters with distinct and believable behavioral patterns and are heavily encouraged to learn their weaknesses, and the interesting behaviors of the monsters result in a lot of varied fights despite the fact that you're often fighting the same enemy over and over again (Chimeras are the best example of this).

The issues that the games have come from that they are subsequently too faithful and not faithful enough to the source material. Geralt in the games is a lot less interesting than his book counterpart due to having most of his character flaws minimized or removed (autism about things like facial hair, inhuman appearance), yet the games are very faithful about things which aren't particularly important like the specific configuration of spells and weaponry that Witchers used. Had they been less faithful they could have added a lot more variety to the gameplay, and it would have probably been wise to not make Geralt the protagonist due to him already having completed his character arc in the books. That said, I don't think the books were anything special to begin with. The concept of Witchers is neat and makes for a cool setup, but in general the characters are pretty bland and the little isolated fairytale stories that comprise most of the books don't have much relation to each other. This format would actually better suit a videogame or a TV show, which would make it the most redeeming aspect of the games. Or it would be had the games focused more on this format instead of trying to copy Game of Thrones starting with Witcher 2.

Since this is basically a Witcher thread, I wanna ask: Witcher 1 worth playing or should I skip it? Is the gameplay as bad as it looks?

>>15225457

You can skip all of the games and all the books, but if you absolutely must play/read some of them for some reason just read the first two books and I guess play the first game, maybe the third, but really don't bother with the second. I must reiterate though that there is little value in the series and you should prioritize other things on your backlog.

>>15225457

Witcher 1 gameplay is terrible as it's a looping QTE does it actually get better?

why does anyone play this game…

its so simple… seriously… theres nothing ot think about… its like a themepark mmo in singleplayer… i could find the optimal character build with my eyes closed (third eye included)… sigh…

>>15219871

There's too much baggage with Yen, every interaction with her is like pulling teeth. She's off doing her own thing and doesn't give a shit about Geralt and he comes off like a beta orbiter who wants a long distance relationship with a moody cow if he goes for her. Triss all the way, she's not perfect but at least she's somewhat fun to be around far better than Yen.at any rate.

>>15227433

>he uses the term 'cis males'

It's already tainted garbage

>>15227705

Fuck off /pol/. The fact that you let kikes become this abusive to white children does not include the fact that age difference should be a big matter in a pure relationship with marriage.

No, not at all.

>>15217069

Did I hear that Keltec are having a sale? You know what to do anon.

>>15227705

>>15227712

Isn't every Enchantress many times older then Geralt by hundreds of years?

>>15217062

Just finished fighting the Frog Prince in Blood an Broken Bone difficulty with no enemy healthbar, was intense.

SPOILERS FOR TIME OF CONTEMPT BOOK

spoiler I Just finished reading the book while on a 10 hour road trip, and holy fuck the ending pissed me off with the Author having Ciri Raped. The most insulting and infuriating part is that the Author set up the situation where she is being Raped by a guy who is stopped by a girl who then rapes her instead. And this shit is played off as being less sever because it's a woman and lesbian. Completely out of character for Ciri not to take action against the even double standard of injustice.

Fuck while it is expected and welcome in hentai by me. There Author just keeps pushing her dam magical realm into every part of the book. And it's utterly infuriating as this goes to show the hypocrisy SJWs and Feminists take advantage of in popular culture.

What a vile way to sour the mood. If I was Geralt I would stab and kill the bitch Missile of molesting my adopted daughter.

>>15229899

Most books are/were on par with video game shlock. 95% of books are pure literary garbage, just like 95% of video games are garbage.

>>15229758

I am growing further into boiling, I am livid fucking furious right now finding out what the books actually are has ruined my amazement at the perfect fucking tone of the setting the video game portrayed with Art, style of direction and writing, and promotional material surrounding the. Shattering the illusion.

This just makes me think back to the Witcher 3 Killing Monsters Trailer, and how this shit just spits in the fucking face of Geralt's "Lesser, greater, middling Evils" quote. Such utter tonal dissonance and trite is astounding, ( if the orignal author actually wrote that one liner, it just goes to show how much a fluke that's hacks success is.) And the unfathomable amount of credit CD Project Red deserves.

In short, the more I find out about the story, the more utterly pissed off I get.

>>15229909

I'd say that non-fiction books are more harmful for you than videogames. The less you know happier you are.

For example life is much more comfortable when you believe that Napoleon was a murderous tyrant who absolutely everyone hated and who declared war on everyone just for sheer shits and giggles.

>>15217062

The Author has some seriously unhealthy views on relationships. Essi Daven and Dandilion at least deserved each other.

>>15228026

Hearts of Stones? you're in for a wild ride

>>15229987

>>15229758

Odd, the consensus seems to be the books are better, i haven't read them though, so i wouldn't know

>>15225457

>Witcher 1 worth playing or should I skip it? Is the gameplay as bad as it looks?

The Witcher 1 is still my favorite of the whole series. The gameplay is kind of primitive compared to the later versions, but the story is terrific. Very moody, very Polish, and it feels more original and genuinely medieval than the sequels.

>>15229909

/lit/ please leave.

>>15230033

Life isn't about comfort, if it was we'd have never bothered evolving to think.

>>15226466

Just fire up cheat engine turn the game on the lowest difficulty and feel even better about yourself for "winning" at a single player RPG.

>sigh

Maybe stop typing like a faggot while you're at it as well.

>>15227433

I am amazed how the act of virute signaling alone is not hated by everyone, it just goes to show you are doing it for reward and not for its own good of the act.

>>15229758

>>15229987

If you haven't already started reading the next book, you're in for a wild fucking ride as far as your adopted daughter is concerned. If it's any consolation, her behavior in Baptism of Fire is mostly just a phase she seems to outgrow later on.

>>15231515

>If you haven't already started reading the next book, you're in for a wild fucking ride as far as your adopted daughter is concerned.

The core of my iusse, is not that a main character got raped. As I am a fan of Berserk and have read game of thrones.

My fury is at the double standard in the light which the Author portrays male rape bad and lesbian rape good. Talking about female previlage. The fact that in next book Crir develops Stockholm syndrome is just twisting the knife in the gut, and the fact that the rapist Mistle develops codependent Lamia syndrome in no way excuses the actions.

>On a another note

I discovered I missed reading the first book the Last Wish and now I am debating going back and reading it first. After having my opinion of the books bittered by this shit.

>>15226654

mads mikkelsen with a wig could probably actually pull it off.

>>15232018

>I discovered I missed reading the first book the Last Wish and now I am debating going back and reading it first. After having my opinion of the books bittered by this shit.

Go ahead and read it. I think you'd like it. I did. It was the first Sapkowski book published in English IIRC, and it's mostly short stories about events that appeared in the game in some form.

>>15233157

Thanks for the recommendation, it's actually shocking how the short stories managed to calm me. The author seems to have a problem when he is not writing the story from Geralts Perspective. Doesn't help that the political story is not every good.

>>15227699

Consenting adults my dude.

>>15217174

>And theater was multiplayer.

Shakespear made G mod dark RP fanfiction

>>15217062

just remember not everything you read in a book is true. i feel like too many people cant process the fact that another human wrote it, fully capable of lying. basing your life style off of a book is kind of ridiculous.

>>15237109

>just remember not everything you read in a book is true. i feel like too many people cant process the fact that another human wrote it, fully capable of lying. basing your life style off of a book is kind of ridiculous.

That's why I am calling out the examples that show the Author has a twisted, and incorrect sense of morality which the making the book unpleasant to read. This is mainly to do him clearly inserting his personal fetishes into situations where it doesn't make sense.

>>15237269

I fucking swear People in the west who can't write Loli gore horror Ntr hentai doujins in Japan, become dark medieval fantasy popular novel Authors. It's absolutely shocking what they get popularly rewarded for, when the same content when in Art and Movies, much less videogames can result in jail time in the west.

>>15220401

>What's worse is a lot of Euros swear by the books as if they were the highest literary standard,

I feel like all of continental Europe has pompus standard, but their tastes are shit. Anyone who does have taste moves to the Americas.

>>15224472

No, Scoia'tael are Black Panthers

Is the Witcher 3 worth pirating and playing ? I heard the combat is shit.

>>15244407

It's worth. Combat could be better.

>>15244407

Its perfect it has no niggers.

Ive read all the books, they are pretty good actually.

>>15243840

>the DLCs are leagues above the main story

YES

>kebabs in HoS

Are you that easily triggered? you kill most of

them anyway

>>15243867

Oldgierd is my husbando no joke

>>15244407

It's absolutely worth it, combat aint that bad really, it's not amazing but i don't get why people think it's shit

God this game is so shit

>>15217062

The games are shit anyway anon. The game play is bloody awful.

>>15246057

I am reading the first book last wish and I am noticing that Geralt has a ton of different powerful signs he doesn't use in the games or other books. Mink trunk, horse calming, force fields, etc.

>>15247494

So many potential into making non-combat skills and perks with those Signs in the game that touts RPG, but they'd rather let you have Bamham spam combat and shitty Witcher-detective with narration. Goddamn waste.

>>15246057

> Mink trunk

I meant Mind Trick

>>15247523

It's actually very weird the Author seems to retcon Geralt into being shit at magic after the first book. In the Last Wish they call him a Sorcerer, and he has a large variety of non combat Signs.

Further more what does make sense is in Time of Contempt it is acknowledge is magically very powerful because he is the son of a Enchantress. But doesn't want to learn magic cause he hates the Lodge organization. The real question is why doesn't he learn it by himself from Yennefer and Triss and use it as a tool independently.

>>15248500

IIRC Geralt can't learn higher magic but can only do simple magic like Witcher signs, which are considered by sorcerers and the like as basically baby toys.

And other signs are included in the games, but not as ones you can cast in your spell selection. Heliotrope, which is a sign in the books for example, is a special skill you learn in your skill tree.

>>15248541

>IIRC Geralt can't learn higher magic but can only do simple magic like Witcher signs,

While this is part of the gameplay, it is made very clear is can become a Sorcerer Wizard if he wants to. It is in fact heavily implied he could become the strongest living Sorcerer ( though he would stilly be only Second to Ciri because Plot Power Reasons.)

>>15248500

>The real question is why doesn't he learn it by himself from Yennefer and Triss and use it as a tool independently.

Maybe it isn't worth the time. Witcher signs are shit-tier in power but they're quick enough to cast in combat.

>>15244789

Is Priscilla basically a Essi Daven replacement clone?

>>15223567

This is probably because of the success of the videogames.

>>15220401

>Book of the Fallen

If I liked Book of the New Sun will I like Book of the Fallen?

>>15217190

>The Halo books were bretty gud until the fucking devs started cannibalizing them for game plot

How does using good books for game plot harm the story in any way?

>>15257512

You misunderstand, the devs started forcing all new books in a bad direction to accomodate the shitty plot of their newer games, while also shitting up what was good from the older books with said shitty plot. Those older Halo books are high-tier stuff, much better than the games IMO, and their loss is far more saddening than what happened to the games.

>>15262140

>You misunderstand, the devs started forcing all new books in a bad direction to accomodate the shitty plot of their newer games,

I didn't know about this or care about Halo ad it still pisses me off.

>>15219987

It never makes sense to me as why would Wizards not be always the ruling class. It's always explained away as they are lazy or other equal bad justifications.

>>15266200

>It never makes sense to me as why would Wizards not be always the ruling class.

>Giving a shit about politics when the pursuit of knowledge is more interesting and rewarding

I think you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be a wizard.

>>15266213

>I think you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be a wizard.

Asumption of authority, and Empty assertion with no evidence.

>Educate yourself shitlord level of discourse

>>15266227

nice spacing, dickface.

>>>/reddit/

>>15266213

The Emperor of Nilfgaard is a Sorcerer King so this guy is fundamentally wrong within the context of the Witcher.

>>15266328

>reading

Enjoy your stupid.

>>15217069

>vidya books

But it's not a vidya book, it came first, so Witcher is actually a book vidya.

>>15266973

>>>reading

Why reading and kill trees and your eyes sight. When you can listing to the audiobook.

>>15267610

any kind of book in this enlightened age is retardet, all important books have been turned into movies and videogames already.

>>15267620

yeah, but not all of them are good, or even if they're good they deviate from the source material (like Dune)

99.999% of the time watching the movie is completely inferior to reading the book

>>15256089

It's a very different style of book in the beginning, a lot more similar to the Black Company than it is to the New Sun - but that changes later on. A lot of people have difficulties with the first one, Gardens of the Moon - just power through it if it doesn't click with you and get to Deadhouse Gates. So, in answer to your question - yeah, you will. In for a wild fucking ride.

>>15267850

Oddly, I can point out the exact moment when the Dune books lost me.

>“You have the word of a Duke,” Paul said, “but Muad’Dib is another matter. He may not recognize your definition of what constitutes an entourage.

>>15217190

Did you ever read the Forerunner series? I got the first book but haven't read it yet.

>>15269594

Didn't they retcon they make the forerunners all stupid and shit in 4? And have some we wuz humans going on?

>>15269594

The Greg Bear ones? They were meh, and the start of 343 raping the lore to suit their needs. The Eric Nylund books are the best.

>>15269614

It was heavily implied from the first game that forerunners were humans, or a close relative. When the robots call you "reclaimer" it's pretty damn obvious. Then in books you had the Covenant artifact scanners freaking out with human worlds registering everything as forerunner artifacts.I think one monitor outright states "You are forerunner" somewhere as well. Then 343 turned them into voldemort-people just because.

>>15217069

You are a fucking imbecile. That's like bitching about reading movie books when someone mentions they are reading Lord of the Rings. It's ass-backwards and completely retarded.

>>15230305

Depends on the book in question. The Ciri books are usually acknowledged to not be a high point of Sapkowski's writing.

>>15271758

>The Ciri books are usually acknowledged to not be a high point of Sapkowski's writing.

Sucks that the later books are mostly in Ciris perspective.

>I just finished reading the Last Wish book

I was extremely frustrated by the relationship with Yennifer and how she cheated on Geralt. Now I seems allot more obvious by the fact that it only exists because of a fucking Magic genie Lamp wish.

>Can you guys recommend some good vidya books?

bump

>>15226654

>>15227433

Isn't there a CY version of the Trojan War airing on BBC that is doing rather poorly viewer-wise? Nubian Achilles or something like that.

>>15283503

I am very confused what does that GTA picture have to do with anything?

>>15283680

Wasn't that cancelled?

>>15225370

Best book are written by Eric Nylund, rest are hit or miss

>>15230244

Man her death hit me in the feels, and showed aside of dandelion we don't see again

>>15284327

>Man her death hit me in the feels, and showed aside of dandelion we don't see again

Dandelion is actually a great person, he really cares and they both deserved love. The video games really did right by both of them from what i know. Given little eyes spirit living on in Pricilla.

>>15284821

Such blatant race mixing propaganda. It's ridiculous. If they MUST have male nigger protagonists then at least let their love interests also be niggers, and not white women. No one but kikes and SJW idiots wants to see white women with niggers.

>>15284821

I'd bet anything they're just glazing right over Achilles and Patroclus (Hurrdurr, spelled with a 'k' because "MUH FANCIFUL REIMAGINATION") in favor of having the niggers drool over Aphrodite.

Oh wait

>interracial threesome

Surprise, surprise.

>>15289555

Ever notice how for some reason it's never an English colonist civilizing exotic native girls? People might actually tune in for that.

>>15226654

>dreads

I thought the Polish were supposed to be against this bullshit

>>15284821

>to thrill viewers with an inter-racial threesome

If people wanted to see that shit they'll just go to porn site.

>>15292309

Or make something totally original so people can choose to ignore it completely, instead of ham fist stapling it on to an existing book or myth.

>>15292249

You have no idea how much pozz an alcoholic commie faggot (sapkowski) can sell in his books. The games are very tame and it still seeps through.

>>15294589

I really liked the video games because they are the closet thing to an open world Warhammer Fantasy battle game aesthetic. But reading the books just has me in absolute shock as things that are utterly immoral are occur and characters don't react to it at all, and go about as if it's normal. Even Game of Thrones didn't have this problem when the bad guys got away with evil deeds. This just feels like finding the author has utterly incompatible values that make his view of the world seem alien.

Most notably Yennifer cheating being brushed off, and this shit

>>15229758

>>15296715

bump

>>15292249

Why do SJWs keep forgetting that the Vikings had dreads?

>>15300254

fuck off with your slavshit power fantasy for turbo-dweebs

>>15289480

I am amazed that Nu-God of War is a far more faithful portrait of Norse Mythology then the Thor movies.

>>15313178

thank you anon