517014 No.15212126
So…why this exists? I just don't get it. You want to make a jrpg about idols and such? Fine. But why announce and then pretend it's a crossover game about Fire Emblem and Megami Tensei? Didn't they see it would only piss off the fandom of both franchises and hurt sales?
Besides…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwGHohR3g4
Holy.Fucking.Shit. This is basically FE x SMT done RIGHT! All they needed to do was either remake this Spin off or you know…make other game in a similar fashion. Instead, they went with this idol pandering crap. I cannot believe Atlus is that much retarded today, it's kinda of disgusting really.
39ce4e No.15212135
>>15212126
Probably because the original project was canceled due to the poor reception and shift in marketing. So the project was replaced with a Persona game rather than a true SMT X Fire Emblem. Besides, I'd rather have a Pokemon X SMT than a Fire Emblem one.
da6a34 No.15212139
Both Atlus and IntSys are being helmed by people who actively hate the games that their companies were founded on so it really shouldn't be a surprise.
ce897a No.15212221
They announced it as such but never pretended after the fact. Once it was revealed as an idol game it was pretty much straightforward as a completely new IP borrowing some things of both. Only salty retards still complain about it.
bc1bcc No.15212226
Isn't the jap bitch who is responsible for nuemblem responsible for this too?
0a6585 No.15212375
>>15212139
This. Look what happened to the Strange Journey remake and SMT IV Apocalypse, Atlus fucked over almost of all it's IPs.
49129d No.15212523
>>15212126
Funny thing is that by that point, Omega Quintet had already released for that same "idol RPG" niche, and as an original game instead of repurposing what was supposed to be some other series.
517014 No.15212901
>>15212135
Pokemon x SMT? You're aware that SMT was pokemon before pokemon right?
da6a34 No.15212927
>>15212523
It was also equally forgettable.
7ec795 No.15213308
>>15212126
>can't embed
>posts thumbnails
What the fuck are you doing?
517014 No.15215130
>>15212139
How in the fuck such people get in such a high position then? That only means pain and suffering to the fans of their games!
f1e130 No.15215148
>>15212126
>Hype up FE x SMT for the Wii U
>Developers do not have a fucking idea how to make this work
>I know! lets take Persona and add in an Idol setting along with cameos by SMT demons!
They really had no fucking idea, and some of the devs wanted to make the game into a musical. Also, fuck the censorship.
517014 No.15216768
>>15212221
Which is exactly why we have freaking FE characters SINGING in it among other things right. if they only "borrowed" a system or something maybe…but no they did worse than that. Plus it's brilliant how you make it sound fans are retarded like it's their fault for daring to want to see such a crossover being made justice and not turned into that weird idol shit.
517014 No.15222453
>>15212226
What jap bitch?
4cc64a No.15222521
the problem is that it's not even real persona, it's a crappy bootleg persona
I was hoping for game with mechanics and characters from throught each series crossed between the two games, demon summoners and persona users and mercenaries and manaketes etc. all in an adapted version of fire emblem's battle system
4cc64a No.15222563
>>15222453
I don't remember her name but she's a writer for the new FE games or something who doesn't even like the old ones
85d080 No.15222862
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Even ignoring what it was supposed to be, I was most disappointed in what a shitty "idol" game it was. Further censored by NA when it gutted the gravure modeling, the only time it veered towards the uncomfortable truth of the entertainment business. I remember IS saying they were off hands so Atlus could make a game that was distinctly them but it was just dime a dozen feelgood shit compile heart could have made. Next time just throw the IP in the trash. Atlus didn't give a fuck, if they did they would have made Devil Survivor 3 but even more FE flavored. DeSu3 never.
bf80a7 No.15222869
This game shot in the middle and missed every fucking target. They lost hardcore SMT the moment the jpop cut in on the trailer. They could have had the Persona/FE Waifu crowd…but then they didn't pander to them either and didn't include waifuing. Throw in censorship (some even in the Japanese version) and the game couldn't do anything but flop.
a655f5 No.15222913
>>15222563
>doesn't even like the old ones
Hasn't she not even played them period?
>>15222798
Never mind, she was just mind-numbingly casual and retarded
>>15222869
It didn't help that it was on the fucking Wii U where neither an SMT game nor a Fire Emblem game ever showed up
24467f No.15227972
Holy shit the amount of tasteless plebs in this thread. It turned out to be the best JRPG in the Wii U and one of the best in the genre in the past decade.
11c5e5 No.15228141
>>15227972
No, it wasn't. It was a mediocre pile of shit that wasn't a good SMT game nor a good FE game. Just a mediocre Persona without the stuff that makes Persona appealing and charming in the first place.
Stop being a salty-ass Wii U owner.
3f505b No.15228390
>>15227972
>best JRPG on the Wii U
And with such competition!
a2bf79 No.15228402
>>15212126
We were promised SMT x fire emblem
We got persona x idolm@sters with fire emblem 1 and 13 themed skins
553e0f No.15228437
It's honestly a pretty decent game if you can tolerate idol shit.
People were mad because it ended up being neither SMT, nor Fire Emblem.
d6a643 No.15228938
I honestly think Nintendo wanted a Persona-style IP for their system so they kicked Atlus in the ass until they said "fuck it"
And then they put it on their dead system.
Really wish I could play it sometime. I kinda like the idolshit.
01cd45 No.15229038
>>15228938
everything on the WiiU was a mistake, just like the system…
02d5b4 No.15229048
>>15212139
>>15215130
Shit like this has got to be the most infuriating cases of nepotism or whatever the fuck is going on to make this happen. Like how the fuck did a woman who hated guild wars 1 ended up being the director of 2? This shit happens in anime too (looking at rage of bahamut)
85d080 No.15229564
>>15227972
You can't skip through attack animations and the whole game is just chaining, wow how revolutionary. The most fun part of the game is the costumes and jiggle physics.
85d080 No.15229592
>>15229583
They wanted the idolfag audience but they didn't go for the bait. They have gatchashit, why would they sink money into a crossover when neither series appeals to them?
679ce3 No.15229595
>So…why this exists?
Just an excuse for them to pander for those otakubucks.
679ce3 No.15229623
>>15229592
>They have gatchashit, why would they sink money into a crossover when neither series appeals to them?
They were probably hoping to create another Persona like franchise. Too bad it never happened.
55c69b No.15229634
>>15229623
>Persona-like franchise
>with a crossover
Doubtful tbh
65f228 No.15229662
>>15229634
>>15229623
I read somewhere that the game's producer said #FE was meant to kickstart a series of Shin Megami Tensei-inspired franchise crossovers with different IPs. Though frankly if this was their idea of "SMT inspired", it's for the best this series died in its cradle.
92ffe8 No.15229706
It seemed decent even if it had fuck all to do with any of the games of either series, I would've bought the game had it not been censored. After even feet and hands were covered up, any thought of me doing so disappeared.
b40426 No.15229717
>>15212126
I have a question! Why did this game get censored but Nintendo did not give a fuck about Xenoblade 2? It does not make sense.
eca2ae No.15229782
>I cannot believe Atlus is that much retarded today, it's kinda of disgusting really.
Hm?
Aren't you a bit late to the party?
You should have realized that SMT and Fire Emblem got too popular for their own good a while ago and are nothing but husks of their former self now, designed to milk as much money out of you as possible. I thought everyone realized that by now and gave up on them. You should just be happy that you were able to experience their glory times.
You are a slow one, aren't you anon?
ded273 No.15229809
>>15229782
You write like an incest porn caption.
2eaa34 No.15229823
>>15229717
Maybe because all of the backlash they got for the censorship, including Xenoblade Chronicles X's. Or maybe not, it doesn't seem like they'd care if people didn't like it.
2753cd No.15229837
Because when the SMT x FE trailer came out, Atlus had absolutely no fucking idea what they wanted to do other than have SMT and FE elements in it, and the geniuses at Nintendo decided to release a trailer branding it as that in the early, early concept stages.
If Tokyo Mirage Sessions was revealed without the SMT x FE trailer being a thing, it probably would've been much more well-received.
Also >>15228938 is probably right and Nintendo wanted them to port Persona 5 to the Wii U but they refused so instead they just told them to make this, which was also a bad decision as it is becoming increasingly obvious Persona will no longer be a Sony-exclusive franchise in a matter of time.
5dd4b0 No.15229907
>>15229717
Nintendo's current censorship policy is that Nintendo of America will inspect Nintendo-published Japanese games while they are being developed, and apply censorship to the games during development as they see fit. The result is that every version of a game is censored, even the Japanese version. Xenoblade 2 may have been censored, but it's impossible to tell in what specific way, as the Japanese version would have received that censorship too.
a5d507 No.15230060
>>15229907
this is the world on globalism
4cc64a No.15232287
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>>15229717
>>15229907
Also Xenoblade 2's English dialogue vastly differs at times from the Japanese version, tons of stuff is toned down or weirdly altered, the visuals only made it out okay probably because they didn't want to put in the effort to change them.
Really you can't trust any of the kikes at Nintendo anymore, it's like they've relapsed into the 90s or something.
517014 No.15233551
>>15212375
What do you mean? What happened with those two games? The remake sucked? IV plays like ass or something?
a655f5 No.15233658
>>15233551
the remake sucked
Apoc was considered shit by a lot of people, as was IV to a lesser extent
9d18fe No.15233812
>>15212901
I don't know why referencing SMT as "Pokemon" gets an emotional reaction out of me (especially since Megami Tensei already had a series that was explicitly structured after Pokemon) but regardless I dislike individuals who practice this.
517014 No.15237370
>>15212927
I heard OQ had a fine battle system but a meh story and characters. Guess that checks out.
733b98 No.15237649
I love weebshit. If they had released it on PS3 with Japanese audio, no censorship and no altering for Western normalfaggies I would have gladly bought it.
a655f5 No.15238164
>>15237649
>normalfaggies
Is this the legendary 8chan toddlerposting?
b3f706 No.15238367
>>15230060
Nothing wrong with globalization if we took Dutch ethics and morality as the world standard and not fucking Burgerland.
Sadly it never works out that way.
517014 No.15247159
>>15215148
I really wonder how the game would have sold if it wasn't for a failure like the wii u and of course it wasn't censored. Doesn't mean the game shouldn't even exist in first place but you do wonder.
6a63ac No.15247161
>>15215130
Eiji Aonuma hates Zelda 1, has never beaten it and has gone on record saying "I don't want to make a game like that." It's more common than you think.
0613db No.15247439
>Idolshit x Fire Emblem
So I can kill off all the shitty idols and solo it with units that are least bad?
517014 No.15249933
>>15222521
This actually sounds what most people expected. It didn't needed to be something exactly like Manji Tense after all. Shame they managed to ruin it in such a spectacular way.
6072b4 No.15250148
>>15249933
Everyone pretty much expected a Devil Survivor knockoff with Fire Emblem mechanics. The mechanics were done for both cases so they could've just copy/pasted and merged both series' mechanics, the characters aren't that important so you could just make some new shitty FE Lords that represent the Law/Neutral/Chaos alignments, you could just make the story and setting about a bunch of mages in a shitty fantasy world summon SMT demons to win a war, the summoning goes out of control and it's up to the Lords take care of the demon invasion, which in turn would justify using both DeSu and FE mechanics together. That was really the easiest thing they could have done with nearly no effort and it would have appealed to a great deal of people. Hell, it wouldn't even need to be a good game, it would just need to be serviceable for people to say that it was alright. Instead they went with this trashy idolshit product that tried to be notPersona with FE Awakening Lords as personas but failed spectacularly at it.
I'm no longer truly angry about it, but it still makes me wonder how Atlus opted out of the easiest, most logical solution that could have pandered to a lot of people, if not most of both the SMT and FE fanbases. It's just amazing to see how hard they dropped the ball with this.
ccdcd7 No.15251392
>>15222798
>Joins game developer because it's close by to their home
>Doesn't have any prior experience with Fire Emblem (so she must have liked IS's other games right? Paper Mario, Advance Wars, etc)
>Becomes the series supervisor despite all her terrible FE writing criticism because "sales success" negates poor talent apparently
>FE fans now live in hell where the worst possible person is in charge of the series, instead of say a true fan who grew up with it and got hired instead. And the only way for her to possibly get out would be for a game to bomb in sales and possibly kill the series.
>>15247161
I think he mentioned that he has beaten the game now before starting work on BoTW.
1c01c4 No.15251436
>>15222453
>>15222798
I think that twitter bot would explain it, it's called @NK_of_IS
c21e56 No.15251821
>>15232287
>vastly differs
>tons of stuff
Lying.