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d9d0a6 (3) No.15208890>>15208893 >>15209163 >>15210073 >>15212287 >>15216505 >>15231217 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Removing virtual console then complaining about piracy and shutting down databases of roms is fucking stupid. As in it's not just greedy but actively costs them money. Why?

d202df (2) No.15208893>>15212301

>>15208890 (OP)

>Why?

Nintendo are stuck in the 90s mentally so they can't understand how to deal with the modern market beyond nostalgia bait.


aa8597 (2) No.15208894>>15208902

I ain't one to defend nintendo, but running ads on a site that hosts roms is fucking retarded.


8da129 (1) No.15208895>>15225777

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Because fuck you goyim you don't get anything for free


d9d0a6 (3) No.15208902>>15208911 >>15229563 >>15229826

>>15208894

Have to pay server costs somehow.


aa8597 (2) No.15208911>>15208916 >>15209366

>>15208902

You do it with discreet donations, not with ads. If people go to the site for roms, and ad revenue is generated, the roms are contributing to the ad revenue pretty directly.

It's the quickest way to get reamed


d9d0a6 (3) No.15208916

>>15208911

I guess donations is effective. Either way killing the virtual console is dumb as shit.


a9c4ec (1) No.15208997

If you want to play Nintendo's vintage video games, all you need is a Nintendo Switch online subscription! You can preorder it today from Amazon!


36b154 (1) No.15209012>>15209020

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is switch emulation a thing yet? I'm out of the loop.


81be8a (1) No.15209015

Either because they are preparing a new virtual console. Or the more likely option that their investor board is filled with old bug people who do not understand young people or how the internet works.


865226 (1) No.15209020>>15209520

>>15209012

Not as far as I know, but apparently its absurdly easy to hack.


055d3c (1) No.15209163


eec4c6 (1) No.15209366>>15209449 >>15209552 >>15210147 >>15212738 >>15216546 >>15226272 >>15230965

>>15208911

Copyright is shit. All entertainment must be free.


e15938 (1) No.15209449>>15209513

>>15209366

Speaking of which, let's say I create a piece of entertainment, like a novel or something, is there a way to be the original author and still register it as public domain as to basically not allow anyone to claim ownership and all that copyright nonsense? or does the author need to die first?


cbe03d (1) No.15209513

>>15209449

Creative Commons has the CC0 mark.

>Dedicating works to the public domain is difficult if not impossible for those wanting to contribute their works for public use before applicable copyright or database protection terms expire. Few if any jurisdictions have a process for doing so easily and reliably. Laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction as to what rights are automatically granted and how and when they expire or may be voluntarily relinquished. More challenging yet, many legal systems effectively prohibit any attempt by these owners to surrender rights automatically conferred by law, particularly moral rights, even when the author wishing to do so is well informed and resolute about doing so and contributing their work to the public domain.

>CC0 helps solve this problem by giving creators a way to waive all their copyright and related rights in their works to the fullest extent allowed by law. CC0 is a universal instrument that is not adapted to the laws of any particular legal jurisdiction, similar to many open source software licenses. And while no tool, not even CC0, can guarantee a complete relinquishment of all copyright and database rights in every jurisdiction, we believe it provides the best and most complete alternative for contributing a work to the public domain given the many complex and diverse copyright and database systems around the world.


2a60fe (1) No.15209520>>15209540

>>15209020

Early models are vulnerable to hacking.

Apparently they are already shipping updated models that fix the paperclip hack and bootROM issue.


c3c07c (2) No.15209540>>15210140

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>>15209520

>Early models are vulnerable to hacking.

>

>Apparently they are already shipping updated models that fix the paperclip hack and bootROM issue.

Yeah, but those early models are permanently vulnerable and there's nothing Nintendo can do about that. Wouldn't those early systems make for prime hacking/testing/development platforms which can be used to exploit even newer firmware updates and provide much easier and robust CFW development for the Switch than pretty much every other console aside from the PSP?


e1d0dd (1) No.15209552>>15209562

>>15209366

Does your mom entertain strangers for free too, comrade?


f7c7a3 (1) No.15209562>>15212192

>>15209552

While his pops is out on the daily commute, his mum's spreadin' her legs to every Clyde, Steve and Cole yonder!

Not the prettiest girl around, but VERY friendly. At least she was to me!


c5489d (1) No.15209568

>Remove VC before they sell New and Improved™ totally not VC service.

>While we wait better hit some of those Roms sites to "force" people to buy our shitservice.

It makes perfect sense.


793750 (1) No.15210073

>>15208890 (OP)

Bug people can't into business anon.


ff45b0 (1) No.15210140

>>15209540

I believe the vulns are hardware level, or something to that effect where you can abstract it from the software. So it works with newer firmwares. Again this is just my guess from what I know.


6c5d81 (2) No.15210145

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Consider Nintendo is getting so cozy with microsoft, you think their service where you get NES games will be like games with gold where you get to keep the games (but not the online play) like games with gold or more like PS+ where you're paying for indefinite rental of games that you don't even get to pick.


7a62c7 (1) No.15210147

>>15209366

>Copyright is shit. All entertainment must be free.

All copyright should do is prevent someone else to claim your work as their own, tbh.


c84f25 (1) No.15212192

>>15209562

Underrated. Have a (YOU)


56a46b (1) No.15212246

Why doesn't the switch have a web browser? Were they scared of exploits? Don't matter now.


8eb66b (2) No.15212252>>15212291 >>15212644 >>15214254

5th thread on this in 3 days, do you women ever get tired of bitching


7a50b9 (3) No.15212287>>15212730

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>>15208890 (OP)

>Removing virtual console

>paying for roms usually in trash emulators and are modified from their original release

>in turn driving people back to "piracy" or playing on original hardware

They can sell all the roms they like, VC emulation was mostly trash not worth the imaginary currency it was sold at.


7a50b9 (3) No.15212291>>15212295 >>15212309

>>15212252

t. Nintencuck


8eb66b (2) No.15212295>>15212304 >>15212644

>>15212291

just tired of you women crying over the same shit on loop


f8e2d2 (2) No.15212301>>15212697

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>>15208893

>Nintendo Japan are traditional

thus leading to its perpetual success through the ages

>Nintendo of America are a bunch of homosexuals trying desperately to sabotage all things traditional

thus the Jewry

>Satoru Iwata died

>NoA Sodomites are starting to assert more influence

Thus the increased radio of Jewry and Soy

it's not really that hard to connect the dots.


7a50b9 (3) No.15212304

>>15212295

Fine, but you can always bitch about people bitching about Nintendo in the rest of the internet. To start you off

>>>/cuckchan/

>>>/reddit/

>>>/facebook/

>>>/resetera/

Or you could just filter the threads, it's not hard if you're not a newfag


f8e2d2 (2) No.15212309

>>15212291

>can't properly format that terveisin meme

>>>/cuckchan/


6fee60 (1) No.15212644

>>15212295

>>15212252

>tired of bitching

Where do you think you are? Might want to fuck off somewhere else if that bothers you.


b4fbc5 (2) No.15212697>>15213969

>>15212301

NoA is also parked right in the middle of Seattle, Soy Central of the north west. Its why their employees are all so fucking useless and moronic, only bandwagoning the brand due to nerd culture and "lmao mary-oh ecks dee!"


6c5d81 (2) No.15212730

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>>15212287

That's a really funny image


656748 (2) No.15212738

>>15209366

I guess you live in a world where people doesn't make songs, series (even animated ones), novels, video games, so on so forth.


d202df (2) No.15213969>>15229977

>>15212697

>Seattle

Nothing good has ever come of this place.


cc7aca (1) No.15214254

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>>15212252

Fuck off you stupid cunt, this is /v/, not Neogaf.


a2a107 (1) No.15216505

>>15208890 (OP)

Agreed. I guess they realize now the danger that is Raspi pi 3 is because it is so, so much better than vc that now they must have realized that it was useless to have vc because only morons would pay for that shit. Now they want to improve it (making almost as good as pi3 but with much, much less content) and take down the roms that are needed for Retroarch emulation… But they are only 8 years too late for that, i believe. I have at least 2 images at my hd with the entire collection of roms from nintendo, snes, genesis, what is interesting on N64, gb, gba, ds, mame, atari, etc… Anyone who has that can upload back the entire library of those sites minutes after they take down and there must be milions of users who have those images…It's useless to even try to take down these sites. They would profit much more with free ads on these sites with NEW stuff… Nintendo is really dumb…


5edb59 (1) No.15216544

tbf, I'm going to steal roms anyway. Who pays for roms?


99a55e (1) No.15216546

>>15209366

hi huenigger


21e52f (1) No.15216611

>>15212683

>All entertainment must be free

Then why would anyone produce entertainment?


b187f8 (1) No.15225072

>>15212683

>All entertainment must be free

Gee, sorry Anon. I really wanted to make that song you like to hear or spend several hours he-hearsing that play you like to watch, but sadly, I need to eat too and factory work doesn't leave much room for pointless shit like "music" or "theater".

Guess you're gonna have to find someone that doesn't have problems with cash and has enough time for all these activities? I heard the Jews might help you out.

You fucking idiot, entertainment should not be seen as a product ever, but it's fucking important to support every entertainer that produces the shit you actually like or they'll just stop making it altogether.

Why the fuck are you applying this shitty reasoning to entertainment when food and shelter are far more basic and important necessities? Shouldn't house and food be free as well? Goddamit stupid priorities you NEETs have.


98ceed (7) No.15225272>>15225280 >>15226352

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Why do people think they deserve free stuff? Why do people consider not being given free stuff an act of greed? When is demanding free access to products or media not considered an act of greed? Who is teaching these people to think this way? How is demanding free access to something non-essential to survival less selfish than not providing free access to that same thing? What do people expect from an entertainment industry that acts purely out of altruism? Where do people expect the market to go if it is funded solely by back patting and thanks? When did expecting shit for free make you anything but a nigger? You deserve nothing. Pirate everything.


0a1ea3 (1) No.15225280>>15225282

>>15225272

Don't worry anon, not only do I not buy your games, I don't pirate them either, cause they're all shit and not worth my time.


98ceed (7) No.15225282


9de0f7 (1) No.15225777

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>>15208895

but then people get things for free if you don't offer them at a price.

Because it doesn't take digging for people to get games, they will pay for them. I know I did, despite having access to free games. On top of that if you design the emulator for your own hardware, you'll have people to test it and refine it so it plays perfectly, which is also a draw.

This shit isn't going to kill off roms and emulators or even piracy, in fact it SPREADS it. Great job nintendo, not only did they kill off their own profit avenue, they also made it harder to exploit it.


f73291 (1) No.15226151

gotta have some way to justify paying money for peer-to-peer multiplayer


656748 (2) No.15226272

>>15209366

>>15212683

I wonder where you live, i mean, you must be living without paying for bills, taxes, internet, electricity, that sweet computer, food, so on, so forth.


00be89 (2) No.15226352>>15229949

>>15225272

The better question is, why do they deserve my money? Why do pasty skinned, stringwristed keyboard clackers deserve my money? Why do resellers and scalpers deserve my money? Why do filthy rich businessmen deserve my money?


a63cfe (1) No.15226872

>I'll soon be able to emulate their latest shit console so I can jack off to Pyra and piss off their fans on discussion forums who will actually defend this shit

>All for free

Can't wait


66f4eb (1) No.15229522>>15229548

Nintendo thinks they can bide their time by slowly trickling away releases that people actually want instead of giving everyone what they want all at once.


6e4a4a (1) No.15229548

>>15229522

well yeah, that's how it has always worked.


7d3a49 (2) No.15229563

>>15208902

A server isn't that expensive. If you work a decent job doing jack in an air conditioned office 8 to 5, you're making enough to live on and easily pay for dozens of servers.


57650f (1) No.15229570

>>15226812

tl;dr


c3c07c (2) No.15229826

>>15208902

>Have to pay server costs somehow.

Consider how much actual traffic is generated by a single user in an online game in a month, and compare that to the traffic that is generated in downloading the game for install. Just how long would it take for you to generate 60GB of data just playing Splatoon 2 online?

Now, especially with consoles having limited internal storage - console upgrades/breakages causing users to redownload their catalogs - demos and whatnot - how much traffic, by comparison does the eshop or PSStore or Live Marketplace generate compared to their multiplayer services. Yet the costs of browsing and utilizing the online stores are factored into the price of the products and you have essentially unlimited downloads for life (or until your digital license expires). Yet the multiplayer aspects of these games is somehow the byte that broke the servers back and forced them to charge extra?

Or will we see a day when companies catch on to this, or when consumers become so complacent, that they'll accept that you can only download a title three times from a virtual store before you have to pay a stipend to get more "download tickets" to access the software you already paid for. After all, distribution servers are expensive to run and maintain anon -- right? They gotta make that money back, somehow. And if the cost of indefinite downloads is included in the purchase price, then why isn't the same true of the costs for online multiplayer?


98ceed (7) No.15229949>>15229984

>>15226352

>The better question is, why do they deserve my money? Why do pasty skinned, stringwristed keyboard clackers deserve my money? Why do resellers and scalpers deserve my money? Why do filthy rich businessmen deserve my money?

Why do you want their product? You sure seem to think the very little about these people, what draws you to desire their creations?

>>15226812

>Exactly because it is not essential. Entertainers have nothing essential to life to demand payment for what they create.

>And as for the industry turning into shit, it already have. There is no point in compensating the pieces of shit in any of the entertainment's industries currently.

>Pirate everything, yes. And let the slaves/entertainers starve to death. There are already enough products to last a whole life.

Again, with this much disdain for the industry, its products, and its practices, what draws you to desire their products? What are the products offering you? Do you pirate games to punish yourself by playing them?

With no praise at all for the industry pirates still desire the products of the industry. It doesn't make sense. To justify piracy every aspect of the industry is attacked, but at that point, if all the attacks are genuine sentiments, the only logical course of action would be to not consume any of their products, regardless of if it is obtained through piracy.

<Why do you pirate

>Fuck you

<That's not an answer

>Fuck off

This appears to be more logical than the justifications I see or hear for piracy.

Furthermore, does piracy hurt the industry? I regularly see claims of the opposite. If this were true then wouldn't pirating in order to reject the industry be counterproductive?

You can't do something claiming it hurts the industry and then turn around and say it benefits the industry when an industry figure attacks piracy through either DMCA or lawsuits.

Well, you can, but that would make whoever does such a thing an abject fraud. A two faced, disingenuous liar.


f6872c (1) No.15229977

>>15213969

in the future all-white northwest republic, it'll become a good city once again as all niggers, spics, kikes, and gooks are purged. (you wouldn't believe the gook problem in the PNW).


00be89 (2) No.15229984>>15230032 >>15230150

>>15229949

>Why do you want their product?

It's fun.

>what draws you to desire their creations?

>scalpers

>businessmen

>creating anything of value


7d3a49 (2) No.15230003

Why the fuck are soccer moms that have no fucking idea how servers work posting in this thread?


98ceed (7) No.15230032

>>15229984

>what draws you to desire their creations?

>scalpers

>businessmen

>creating anything of value

>anything of value

>anything

>Why do you want their product?

<It's fun.

so which is it? you clearly value fun enough to exert energy to obtain it.


b4fbc5 (2) No.15230042

>>15226812

>Edgelord.txt

I bet you'd lick your own urine off a sidewalk for $200


021e44 (4) No.15230053>>15230057

Just saying, but shutting down the virtual console doesn't exactly grant you the right to ROMs. There's no legal obligation for them to give you access to these things. This is where GOOD companies like Sega and Sony differ, after the Bleem situation they just kind of let it go. Whereas Nintendo continues to this day to think that they're god's gift to gaming, and they love to foster the belief that they somehow saved gaming, even though the Sega Master System was out before the NES, and if not for the NES, you'd be saying Sega saved gaming.


98ceed (7) No.15230057>>15230066

>>15230053

The SG-1000 came out the same day as the Famicom

SEGA did save gaming


021e44 (4) No.15230066>>15230087

>>15230057

Yeah well, tell that to all the Nintendo fanboys like James Rolfe, who believe it was solely Nintendo. Also don't forget Nintendo actively soured the milk to spite Sega during the whole Mortal Kombat/Night Trap hearings.


98ceed (7) No.15230087>>15230093

>>15230066

Tell them to ask any European what a video game crash is. As far as I understand they never had one, same with Japan. So, to attribute the end of the crash to a single company that used monopolistic tactics in an attempt to suffocate their competition is completely absurd. Global trends would have seen a resurgence in the industry regardless of Nintendo's anti consumerist business practices leading them to being the only household name of the late 80's in America. If anything one could argue that the manner in which Nintendo conducted themselves did nothing but ultimately poison the industry, and restrict the amount and quality of games released during this time, and potentially even further down the line.


021e44 (4) No.15230093

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>>15230087

Well said, and I agree. It's nice to see a rational opinion on this for a change.


f30fe0 (2) No.15230150

>>15229984

>The games industry is just businessmen and scalpers

<A lot of those businessmen are developers who actually work on their game.


af3624 (1) No.15230185>>15230220

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Don't blame it on Nintendo. Blame it on the weak niggas who have been keeping them alive.


f30fe0 (2) No.15230207

>>15226812

>tor

Is it illegal to have bad opinions in your country?


62df0f (1) No.15230220>>15230230

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021e44 (4) No.15230230

>>15230220

I used to work in retail a decade ago, and a bunch of chinks showed up and camped out in the store with backpacks. They stole a bunch of shit when no one was watching. I'm not saying that everyone who camps out like that in a store are up to something, but yeah it's not just whites who do it.


2eb4ff (1) No.15230965

>>15209366

>Copyright is shit.

Completely true. Intellectual property is a fucking joke.

>All entertainment must be free.

You're retarded.


98ceed (7) No.15231131>>15234948

>>15230909

>To clarify: i am not the anon claiming that piracy does not hurt sales.

I meant that not toward anyone specifically

>Why should i pay for their products that i want (some are fun, and that is enough), if i can try many ways to get it all for free, given that all creators are marxist pieces of shit and don't deserve my money, nor to even be allowed to live?

I'm not going to justify buying games

>I pirate those that i like. I don't have to like their creators, nor care about their well being. But i do care about ruining their lives.

If I had to bet I'd say you're ruining nothing

>It is a pleasant thing to do.

Sure

>It does make sense: we despise the industry, but we will gladly take (for free) whatever rare good products that they make from time to time.

I'm not convinced that "despise" and "enjoy" can apply to the same thing

>And also, one more pleasant thing: it is extremely fun to make more people do the same, while keeping the already good products made, all gotten for free.

I also enjoy sharing

>As for piracy hurting the industry or not, if it does not, then we are just having harmless fun by pirating all products and making more people pirate them, no? Harmless fun that should not trigger anyone, after all, it does not hurt the inudstry.

I want to stress that I am not attacking the act of piracy.

>If it does, then it is a pleasure to do it. So, we can all have fun in ruining the industry because of the subhumans that work on it, along with getting what they create, if it is good.

Sure, but once again it is either one or the other, either hurting or helping the industry.

>If it hursts the industry, good. The marxists kikes and shitskins working on it deserve it.

Why do you take in these peoples propaganda

>If it does not, good. It is just harmless fun.

I want to bring up "despise" again and point to this instance, of which it is not the first, of you enjoying the products of the industry you "despise" which is a rarity as you've said

>Why should i stop to have this much fun?

I never said you shouldn't

>Why should i pay to have fun?

This is an absurd question that completely ignores the core of everything else you were replying to. Why should you pay to go to the amusement park and ride their rides? Why should you charter or purchase a boat for deep sea fishing? Why should you pay for the ability to go skydiving?

This question completely ignores that the conversation is about one specific industry and implies that the entire concept of "fun" is something that is universal in that everything it encompasses should be free from charge.


aa8312 (1) No.15231169

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Why is the WiiU so expensive even though the switch is out. I got a hankering to play some punch out and no more heros.


f206d7 (1) No.15231179>>15234948

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>>15212683

>piracy is stealing

Time to get out, newfag.


199410 (1) No.15231217

>>15208890 (OP)

I think Nintendo trying to shut down ROM sites is their attempt at trying to stop the "casual/low effort" users who want to play those (popular) retro game back catalogues by getting them to purchase their own offerings like the Mini NES/SNES or through the Wii U/3DS VC.

While the hardcore crowd will go through any "long effort" to get hardware or source ROMS/emulators from the internet for their own purposes, that crowd won't bother with Nintendo legal offerings because they can usually get a better result (customized controls, multiple save states, possible mods, games that can't be brought).


3ad586 (1) No.15231808>>15234948

I have bought rereleases of games from Nintendo but their recent actions did make me more likely to download old games. Is it weird that I draw a line at certain time periods where it is ok to download games? My cut off point used to be "anything before PS1 is ok" but now it has creeped up to "anything Gamecube or earlier is ok".


000000 (1) No.15234948

Impotent mod can't silence me.

Corporations are composed of marxists and deformed kikes, and therefore, must never receive any compensation or support.

It is ok to steal from corporations and jews. Never wrong.

>>15231131

Despising the industry and the shit that works there does not mean that i can't like the entertainment that some of them create. As well as liking their products does not mean that i have to support them. I get everything for free as long as it exists, and if it stops existing, i already have enough , so it is not a problem.

Again, hurting the industry is a bonus, if it does really happen. If it does not, just taking what they create, for free, while bashing them and making people avoid them or pirate their creations, is fun enough to justify doing it.

The whole "making all efforts to pirate something" is as fun as playing a good videogame or watching a good movie

As for their propaganda, i don't take it. But will gladly expose it to ensure that others don't take it. The fact that those subhumans exist t all is a "crime", and their existence is reason enough to ruin whatever they try to achieve.

As for why paying, you have answered yourself:

"This is an absurd question that completely ignores the core of everything else you were replying to. Why should you pay to go to the amusement park and ride their rides? Why should you charter or purchase a boat for deep sea fishing? Why should you pay for the ability to go skydiving?

This question completely ignores that the conversation is about one specific industry and implies that the entire concept of "fun" is something that is universal in that everything it encompasses should be free from charge."

Indeed, why pay? Have fun for free. Fun IS universal and everything it encompasses MUST be free from charge.

Entertainment must be free, and those that create it are just slaves to amuse us.

>>15231179

Even if it is not, that is how the industry sees it. And there is nothing wrong in either pirating or literally (as in, physically) stealing something made by a corporation.

Corporations deserve nothing.

>>15231808

Everything is ok to pirate. Avoid paying for anything in entertainment, at all costs.




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