/v/ - Video Games

>>15208190

I'll add on what this anon is saying.

Less originality, more cash cow games, more copycats. The biggest death of the 2020s in gaming, mark my words, will be the game console.

I'm hoping polygons will finally die or change drastically.

Anyone have any positive visions for 2020-2030?

>>15208150

where are you drawing these expectations from? it surely isnt based on your observations of the current course of events is it?

For games to be so cinematic and full of lootboxes that normalfags just stick to movie theaters and casinos.

>>15208150

The only way vidya can go back to being great again is if copyright law were severely rescinded (so that they last like 50-60 years instead of as long as Disney needs Mickey Mouse alive) and LESS money was put into projects. The only games I consistently had fun with this decade were low budget ones or indie titles from devs that allow modding.

>>15208150

>What do you expect out of vidya in the decade of 2020?

I expect nothing and I'm still going to be disappointed.

I see AAA gaming continue on the course it's going, and probably raising prices to $80 a game + mandatory DLC packs. So, complete dogshit that normalfags will eat up anyway.

However, I hope to see a sort of "underground" industry form almost entirely separate from the rest of the market simultaneously - separate from the garbage of overdeveloped AAA trash, but also layers above the pretentious garbage of single-dev indie titles. Small companies of a few people putting together good games - stuff like Sonic Mania, or the like. Titles that have love and care put into them, but aren't just for some extremely niche market - enough to garner a fanbase to support the developers. Not quite AA developers, but certainly better than the F-tier retarded indie garbage of now.

>>15214216

Stop posting your 3dpd trash everywhere.

>>15208150

This post didn't age well.

>>15214098

>>15215186

>>15215155

>>15214337

>>15214216

And everyone on /v/, very justifiably, agrees that nothing will ever get better, and there is nothing we can do about it.The AAA industry fucking won, and their model will become the only economically viable model for gaming in the future. The /agdg/ cucks should hopefully pack their shit and quit after realizing this inevitable truth.

>>15215215

Did you even read my post? The AAA industry will continue to be trash, yes, but being such a blackpilled faggot only makes that a self-fulfilling prophecy. So long as there's people who have a disdain for AAA trash, there will be people willing to make good video games for smaller markets. Especially at the rate the industry is tearing through talent.

>>15215186

>However, I hope to see a sort of "underground" industry form

/v/ has already proved this will never happen. There isn't even any demand for it outside of chans!

>>15208150

>implying much of Europe or the US will have access to internet or electricity as they become increasingly brown

>>15215226

>So long as there's people who have a disdain for AAA trash,

So basically 50 autists on /v/. The rest of the world will still eat it up and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>15215238

>>what is the whole of the indie market

Pixelshit, nostalgia pandering, pretending to be deeper than it actually is. The fucking arthaus of gaming.

>>15215239

>So basically 50 autists on /v/.

I always love how retards like you resort to trying to insult the very board you're posting in, when confronted with any kind of argument. It ousts you as an outsider.

>>15215242

>pixelshit

A Hat in Time

>nostalgia pandering

Don't Starve

>pretending to be deeper than it actually is

almost every Japanese indie title

are you even trying, son?

>>15208150

>>15208190

>>15215231

Either state-enforced VR Homosexuality simulators, powered by the last functioning hydro-power generators while our soy-based food slurry rots in unpowered refrigerators scavenged from the 70's, and gangs of roving third-worlders ransack our homes.

or

Advanced tactical ICE simulators, preparing the next generation of law enforcement for storming the warlords of MS13's compounds in the former Californian republic, and raiding Somalian shanty-towns in Vermont

The only two ways I could see it working out tbh fam It will be option two, never give up!

>>15208150

I'm expecting video games to just be movies but worse.

>>15215264

>>15215238

>>15215226

And then you realize that you're alone in this pipe dream.

We have IDs you know.

>>15215264

>those fuggen outsiders

>i hate JRPGs by the way

Things are going to crash, the trendy gamers will all move on. SJWs are pushing video games in a direction that the market won't like.

I predict Xbox will die in the 2020s. MS will realize that using it as an experiment R&D platform isn't worth it, and that they can make more money by selling off existing studios and IP to Sony and Nintendo. MS will try something really stupid with the next Xbox, something that pisses everyone off again. But after two times being pissed off, it's enough for normalfags to get tired of it. Sony will just come out and say

>Here's PS5, it plays games and the latest Blu-Rays, and it does it all slightly better than Xbox 2 while costing less.

And everyone will tell Xbox to fuck off, minus the last few hardcore fans who think Halo and Forza are unique and amazing.

Switch will be Nintendo's last normalfag console for a while. After Switch, they'll have another Wii U situation, where most of their customers are just Nintendo fans. The Wii situation will never come back as the video game fad is going to die. There won't be much third party support, but they'll make a lot of really good first party games.

Cinematic games will die, people will realize that $60 for a B movie that lasts 10 hours isn't worth it, specially when they keep injecting socjus into everything. Facebook of all places is starting to feel the effects of catering to liberals by having the largest stock value drop in NASDAQ history recently. People turn to video games for entertainment because even if you're buying them, it's an extremely good money to entertainment ratio. But these cinematic games take that away, and you can do much better elsewhere. Most gamers realize they can $60 on some stupid FPS, RPG, sports game, etc and get hundreds of hours of it.

SJWs will blame gamergate for the collapse of their envisioned future where white male characters were removed from video games and replaced by cinematic, diverse mary sues. 10 years after GG started, they will blame everything on GG, and will never admit their cinematic, socjus gaming utopia never materialized because they are a fringe element of society.

Things won't continue on how they are going. Graphics will regress in time, they're not going to look like they do now. The hobbyist era of game development will come back, where people make games for fun instead of trying to get rich.

All the normalfags will just settle for mobile gaming, and only treat video games as another way to pass the time when waiting for things in real life. They'll stop viewing them as a form of entertainment, and they'll stop seeking video games that entertain them, only looking for games to pass the time when they are waiting on something. And even then, they'll have to compete with social media and other dopamine products.

I am optimistic about the future. If these cinematic games were doing very well, I'd be concerned. But look at the most popular games recently. They're games like Fortnite, GTA, PUBG, Minecraft, Rocket League, FPS, etc. Whatever you think about those games, they're not cinematic SJW bullshit. They're video games that revolve around game play and most of them don't even have a story. That's why the cinematic future is never going to come, no matter how hard they try and shill it. If it were coming, we would see cinematic games on the top of all the most popular game lists. Instead we only see them shilled by a bunch of cuck video game bloggers who can't make it past the cuphead tutorial.

Your expectations are optimistic but totally naive. The games industry has been licking Hollywood's crusty anus for well over a decade at this point, like a hopeless slave. Has the film industry had a renaissance of mid-level production movies made by independent, inspired people? No. Neither will games, unless there is a fundamental market difference between those two industries.

I believe what is really going to happen is games as a service. The idea of a release date will become harder and harder to distinguish until it eventually vanishes. Games will release with much less content than they used to but eventually accrue more over time, but the publisher will expect you to pay more money more frequently. Sadly and ironically, these games will be at their very best at the end of their lifecycle, but the publisher won't give a fuck and pull the plug on the service because they already released all the content on their roadmap and got the money they planned to get. The service model is highly prized by executives because it eliminates piracy.

>>15215536

Keep being delusional cuck. You're getting fucking wrecked by actual facts and reasonable predictions of the future.

>>15215740

Most of /v/ is right with you on that. There is no fucking hope, no matter how many delusional """prophecies""" get shat out on this thread.

This is the point in which hopeshills fall silent because they will never find any sort of rebuttal to this post.

>>15215264

>>15215238

>>15215226

>>15215186

See >>15215740. There will never be an underground market because, as most people ITT agree, live services will be the only economically viable way to make a video game. This is an undisputed fact that has not been debated for obvious reasons.

Say goodbye to piracy - forever.

>>15215536

Status of this post after >>15215740

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>>15215760

To say that it's "hopeless" is somewhat inaccurate. However the industry has passed a point of no return. Before, good games would get made routinely because publishers weren't very keen on monetizing games, so they generally threw a chunk of money at a small but dedicated group of developers and hoped things panned out. Now, publishers have a strategy and many more people have skin in the game, so much more money is invested and (from their perspective) much more control must be exerted to ensure everyone makes a return.

Good games still get made every once in a while, but it takes a group of dedicated people, and they usually get snapped up by one of the mega-studios as soon as their first game is a hit. So you can still hope for a good game every now and then, but there isn't any way we'll get games like Starsiege: Tribes again which ran natively on Linux, were insanely optimized and played very fluidly. Those things don't directly translate to money made. Even "retro FPSes" which try to emulate games like that are mostly shit, with very few exceptions (I like AMID EVIL, but that's about it).

>>15215186

>However, I hope to see a sort of "underground" industry form almost entirely separate from the rest of the market simultaneously

This hope did not age well.

Things will get worse like >>15208190 says but it'll get to the point where we'll have another crash

>>15215264

A Hat in Time was pretty neat and gives me hopes for more throwback titles done right like this. It's kinda my dream if I won the lottery or something, I'd fund the development of a game done with PS2 era esque sensibilities just with better graphics.

>>15215740

>neither will games

Games are not film, they aren't required to have a certain standard for normalfags to see it, the indie game boom is proof of this.

>>15215760

>facts and reasonable predictions

Where did he quote a fact? Quit sucking his cock just because you want to think things will always be shit now.

>>15215772

So you're saying gaming is going to die again? Good.

>>15208150

Vidya crypto currency will be used for mobile and vidya. /agdg/, keep an eye out for this:

https://enjincoin.io/

Multiplayer worlds will expand through:

https://improbable.io/

Nothing but niggers, ugly women and soy

>>15208150

Hope you like Gambling anon.

>>15215971

>Multiplayer worlds will expand through:

>https://improbable.io/

Its cloud based. I wouldn't bother tbh. /agdg/ should avoid all your suggestions.

>>15215215

>And everyone on /v/, very justifiably, agrees that nothing will ever get better, and there is nothing we can do about it.The AAA industry fucking won, and their model will become the only economically viable model for gaming in the future.

The problem with this line of thinking is that it assumes that we are playing on equal field to the producers of our vidya. We aren't the target demographic and haven't been for at least the last 10 years at best, the last 20 at worst. Vidya never died and never will die simply because it dies at different times depending on the fandom, there's niggers I know that look longingly at the fucking Wii because they were utter casuals who however were catered to in a special way that wasn't ever replicated. We'll get people nostalgic about VR fucking chat. You just gotta accept that you'll get an exponentially lower amount of games you're looking for while hoping that /agdg/ anons cook up something worth your time.

>>15208150

When the ethnostate rises again and genocide is its highest, Vidya will come back.

>>15215760

>Negative retard thinking he's right

Absolutely fucking disgusting. How about try being positive and not a shitter actively trying to make the rest of the world shittier?

>>15215479

Fuck off Yandev.

>>15216367

How?

So if games as a service is the way of tge future then how exactly will the Jews prevent piracy? Make all software streaming only so your PC/Smartphone streams from the cloud?

Is Windows and Mac OS going to be stream-only operating systems where your PC is merely a terminal that accesses software on the mainframe if you enter your account information and pay a monthly subscription?

>>15215841

>Games are not film, they aren't required to have a certain standard for normalfags to see it, the indie game boom is proof of this.

You are vastly overestimating normalfags and vastly underestimating how much marketers and publishers push for games to appeal to the lowest possible common denominator. As you probably already know, for the past 13 or so years the games industry hasn't grown by making better games. It's grown by making games which appeal to a wider audience. Those are two very different priorities. Normalfags aren't drawn to most indie games; they simply do not command the same audience that AAA games do. Sure they make money because Steam gives them massive exposure they simply would not have otherwise, but that doesn't mean that their audience is comparable.

>B-but PUBG

PUBG is for all intents and purposes a AAA game. It is marketed like one, it sells like one, the only thing it's missing is a bloated company behind it. And above all it is total shit. Please don't try to use this as an example.

>>15216531

>So if games as a service is the way of tge future then how exactly will the Jews prevent piracy?

In software development lingo, a service is a detached component which provides something so an application can do its job. What this means 99% of the time is you are connecting to an external server so your app can work. It is extremely easy to do a little checksum verify and realize you are playing a modified/illegitimate copy of the game and deny you service. By moving most or all of the content of a game behind a connection to a server, you are effectively killing piracy to your game assumimg your servers have decent security.

>>15216548

Ignore the hopeshit. He'll never learn, and will experience the full brunt of the suffering once the inevitable happens

>>15216486

If there truly was a way to fight back against this, we wouldn't be here.

>>15216560

You can still trick the bootleg app to connect to a fake offline server on your PC if the app's software is on the PC. Otherwise streaming with the app on server is the ultimate goal.

Video games were always shit.

>>15216563

>(1)

>hopeshit

You're still at this? You've been trying to blackpill every board on the site and it's getting annoying.

>>15215536

>>15215841

What is it with you hopecucks and constantly getting your shit handed to you by people who know what the fuck they're talking about. You haven't even posted since then!

>>15216583

>You've been trying to blackpill every board

Every board was already blackpilled mate, you're just noticing it now.

>>15216587

>(1)

id hopping I see.

>>15216587

>>15216590

Somebody shut this fella up.

>>15216590

Nope, there's a pretty large difference between being bitter about the state of things and saying you should just take it up the ass and put down your weapons because there's no point in fighting back. Peddle your defeatism somewhere else.

>>15216578

>You can still trick the bootleg app to connect to a fake offline server on your PC if the app's software is on the PC.

Yeah, but the whole point of GaaS would be to move as many assets off the initial release as possible and make updates so frequent and incremental that you're basically always playing an unfinished game even if you manage to get a particular version of the game running via hacks. Basically it would make the game as unsatisfying as possible unless you either buy the game or get it set up after it has run its lifecycle.

>>15216755

But then pirates will wait until post updates are done and pirate the latest patches and assets saved on the latest version of the app. We can't have that. We must be as Jewish as possible by hoarding all assets on our servers and force the goyim privelege to access them by signing in with their universal citizenship account. Hate to be devil's advocate on this but I'm imagining the worst case scenario of computer software.

>What's that? Games are too big to download with your shitty bandwith cap? Stream game on your smartphone package instead. Oh and don't forget to buy a license to play that game. And the season pass too so you can have licenses for each update.

I expect libre gaming to continue improving while the commercial industry continues to consolidate and shit out crappy games with million-dollar budgets.

>>15219927

Also more Linux support. Microsoft has shat themselves in a spectacular fashion in the last several years and I only expect the move away from their DirectX and .NET cancer to continue.

>>15219637

Where did he go? That Invisibo.

>>15215703

KINOGRAPHIC

>What do you expect out of vidya in the decade of 2020?

considering 2020 is barely 2 years away, I don't expect many radical changes

call of duty battle royale

>>15220661

with microtransactions

>>15220661

>>15220664

BLOPS4 is already gonna do that.

>>15216482

Dead Rising 1 owes its uniqueness and detail because it was made with sixth gen mentality but with new toys - it couldn't be done at all on sixth gen, just look at the Wii adaptation.

>>15220568

You don't know. While the massive breakthrough of shit happened in 2007, there were still good games released until 2010, and then in 2011 I've noticed a MASSIVE abrupt change in quality, like whatever was left of the old era was thrown away at once in one fell swoop. Now gaming is so depressingly bad that shit I've considered cancerous in 2008 looks masterfully crafted in comparison.

I expect a major economic recession or depression that will make 2008 look like a vacation. Video games won't be spared this time.

>>15220819

>it's horrifying isn't it

It truly fucking his. I want a time machine so I can go back to the 90s and pretend this future never happened.

>2020

>Only two years from now

We'll get more pushes for videogame streaming services which will undoubtedly fail unless internet speed services see some huge breakthrough and the average internet speed increases massively in all the world. Anthem releases and Bioware dies shortly after. Bannerlord releases and gets shit on because M&B fags hyped it up too much SS4 also releases and tries to do some pseudo-battle royale thing which at first sounds and looks like shit but when you actually play it it's quite fun. Also will get shit on

>>15220819

It doesn't have to be about technology. The underwhelming mid to late 7th gen crap was made on the same hardware as the more ambitious early 7th gen games after all.

And man, GTA V was probably the best one of the AAA bunch presented here but I don't remember anything else disappointing me so much in the latest years. The trailers made it out to be legitimately great, I foolishly expected a lot of content and GTA IV gameplay mechanics. That one taught me to never hype anymore I guess.

>>15220834

For me it's the other way around. I want to experience the PS1/2 era of console games as they came out. That being said, if I were to go back in the past I'd wish for my memory to be selectively erased so I could experience good games anew.

>>15220850

>unless internet speed services see some huge breakthrough

Shit won't matter unless the kikes figure out a way to jew the speed of light.

>Bannerlord releases and gets shit on because M&B fags hyped it up too much

All I fucking want is a better looking Warband with a less retarded interface, and AI that can fight in formations. Anything else is just gravy on top.

>>15220851

>It doesn't have to be about technology.

of course, an example from the 2013 stuff is TLOU, now I am going to go on the record and say I do not -hate- TLOU1, I genuinely feel it did a certain number of small things right that would be cool to see expanded on BUT people ate up the story and forced walking segments, so people tried to emulate it's success so you get more story bogged games that don't even have the decency to make story elements skippable. I expect TLOU2 to be irredeemable trash especially after Uncharted 4 was a fucking abortion. I really wish the journo scene would fall out from under itself already because I know normalfags don't really care about the story that much and just think the stories are good because they are -told- it's good, but the developers and publishers see the positive feedback regarding story elements and push harder on those. Casuals wouldn't care at all if a story was bad if the game kept them occupied enough

>>15220860

I was a console kid so I got the ps1/2 era pretty well, and even as an adult I still find ps2 games here and there that I enjoy a lot and might not have enjoyed when i was younger.

>if I were to go back in the past I'd wish for my memory to be selectively erased so I could experience good games anew.

I almost wish i could do that at any period. I'd love to have a temporary mindwipe to do something like a fresh run of demons souls or something

>>15220860

>>Bannerlord releases and gets shit on because M&B fags hyped it up too much

>All I fucking want is a better looking Warband with a less retarded interface, and AI that can fight in formations. Anything else is just gravy on top.

And Siege Battles that don't go on for 3 days real-time because 1 guy got stuck in a wall somewhere.

>>15215284

this is barely videogames

Every video game's soundtrack will be composed by Sabaton.

basically this decade but worse

Absolute dogshit.

>>15226988

Perfect song for playing as Israel in Red Dragon tbh.

>>15226988

Youre saying that like if the lyrics werent true, the kikes absolutely dominated the got fuckers in the 6 days war.

>>15219637

Nobody worth their salt knows that.

>>15208190

2020 will be the Tokyo Olympics so yeah, Japan's gonna get fucked up for some time.

Kikes, censorship and transactions is only the present. Future always is worse, boys

>>15219637

Actually you really kinda can't. It'd scare off the normalfags.

>>15215227

>blackpill

>chans

>!

Kill yourself.

The ability for jewish pedophiles to shoot poz loads into your children while they're playing Fortnite 2 via 3d printed semen over an internet connection

And if you don't like it, you're a bigot

>>15215703

PURE SEX

>What do you expect out of vidya in the decade of 2020?

nothing. it will die a horrible death.

>>15215155

What if someone made a toaster that toasted bread by mining dogecoin with no fan?

>>15208150

Every game will be free but they will all come with crypto miners built in and the goyim will be cowed into accepting it as the new normal once the industry shills for it enough.

>It's free, goy.

On the bright side, hackers will crack these games and remove the cancer so they don't perform like shit.

>>15226988

Rule 8, bitch.

>>15249370

>>15249409

Sage negated.