/v/ - Video Games

Define all moons possible, you counting store moons?

I gave up on those after the literal niggers couldn't keep their balloons in the actual level.

No

No

Doesn't really draw me to keep playing it after beating the post game levels. The hat trick is nice but isn't interesting enough on its own to pull me back.

Lost interest halfway into the game. Platforming isn't that good I had to make my own fun with the hat jumps. No Nintendo games have any soul left. After BoTW I stopped caring about Nintendo.

>>15198168

No and no. A good number of moons are just too tedious and boring to collect. I'd compare them to red coins, but at least those only had one set per stage.

Odyssoy is for fucking chumps. Mario 64 is still king baby!!

I gave up. There's too many moons and it doesn't feel like you have to work for any of them.

>>15198168

its one of those mario games that ill go back to every once in a while. but its too soon for now.

>>15198635

Agreed, the issue I have with it right now is that it's basically empty. In short bursts its pretty good, especially the balloon mini game. However I feel that the open structure of the game hurt it in the long run.

>>15200566

I think the issue is that they're trying to hard to focus on the children. It's the same issue that Smash Bros and Sonic suffer from as well. The game dev teams are too focused on making the game sell rather than making a fun game, When the marketing department should be the ones who should work hard on selling the game. Not the other way around. Game devs should never try and be businessmen, they're terrible at it and both the marketing and the end product suffer as a result.

>>15200566

>>15200576

Also to add to this, apparently the only reason Super Mario Odyssey was a 64 styled game rather than a Galaxy 3 was because Minecraft used a proper camera system. Before that they were worried kids couldn't use the right stick to use the camera, that's how out of touch they are.

>>15200585

Oh yeah, I remember that. To be frank, they're not entirely wrong. My sister plays Autismcraft on her laptop I've also got her to play better games, but she refuses to quit it anyway, and she's struggled with both Mario 64 and Spyro, mostly due to lack of experience. She cried over Spyro, I remember, one of the early levels.

>>15200599

Well yeah, but that doesn't excuse the fact that kids nowadays are playing games like Call of Duty and Fortnite. Kids aren't fucking dogs, they can adapt to a game if needed. It's not like these games are trying to be Ace Combat. Hell I'd argue that kids could even play a game like Devil May Cry if they wanted to.

>>15200612

Marketers don't know that. They also don't know that a lot of kids play these games like Fortnight to look cool.

No

No

I played a bunch and got something like 600 moons. I enjoyed it thoroughly, but feel no drive to poke at every corner of every map and get absolutely everything. I'm fine with just getting all the fun ones.

>>15200616

Which is a huge fucking issue since they need to know these things in order to sell the product. It's why I consider the video games industry to have the worst fucking business people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing. And the devs who support this shit like Sakurai and Iizuka are just part of the problem.

>>15200620

Exactly, the days of the Wii are over. Nintendo seems to slowly be understanding this, but still try to cater to that audience in hopes of bringing them back. Then again having groups like Treehouse who try to push Nintendo as "The Mario Brand" rather than a diverse video game company is also a massive fucking issue. Yes Mario is Nintendo's Mickey Mouse, but even Disney couldn't survive off Mickey Mouse alone. It's why they made movies based off shit like Snow White and Peter Pan and continued to do so even after Walt's Death with Lion King and Little Mermaid. The issue with Nintendo right now is a lack of focus between the three departments. Nintendo of America wants to be the Mario Company while NCL wants to cater to every single person and that never ends well.

>>15200629

Well there are more females legitimately into vidya then you think. Hell I'm sure even here there are quite a number of femanons who just act like dudes to protect their anonymity.

>>15200655

Last girl that was a co-worker of mine had played games like mgs3 and other old ps2 games. So it was fun talking with her about those.

Unlike my new co-worker who's a "gaymer" as she calls herself and only plays Fallout 4 and cod zombies

>>15201053

You work at a gaming retail store don't you?

>>15201108

Nope. Fast food. Kill me

>>15201172

dont worry the food will

>>15198168

I 100% it the first month it came out now I have no reason to keep playing even though I want more :/. Hopefully they wise up and add Delfino.

>>15203545

Hopefully any new content is post-game challenge level tier, but you know it won't be.

I went back recently and finally got around to heading to the Darker Side of the Moon and gotta say, it was a hell of a time to get through, but I managed eventually. It felt good, and I think they did a good job of giving a solid challenge even if the fireball part fucked me over so many times for some reason

>>15203545

>>15203576

Delfino would be pretty fucking crazy, but if there was any challenging content it would probably be only after beating it first. Unless they go full crazy, and sell a new set of levels and places with a warning that this content will be challenging, which wouldn't be what they would do for fear of not selling as much DLC. Although one can always hope

It's one of those things i pick up for a couple hours now and then to grab a new moon, then put back down. I've never been a completionist anyways.

>>15200655

>Well there are more females legitimately into vidya then you think.

That's definitely true in Japan, you see really weird demographic breakdowns like Tales of conventions being 51% female and such. Gaming just never caught on among western women though, and then the gamer grill thing happened and poisoned the well forever.

>>15200576

Its not children per-say but rather the shift came from the casual "boomer" audience they acquired during the Wii success. While they claim to be trying to reembrasure the "gamer" audience they still haven't let go of the design choices they adopted from the Wii's success.

>>15198168

No.

Yes, and I bought enough to get 999 total. It was fun but I'm not picking it up again until I get a couple new levels and/or bosses.

>>15198461

>BBS forum post, 1799, colorized

>>15203926

Reggie mocked a smashfag for playing video games.

How do you get yourself to even get a few hundred moons, let alone all of them? Most of them look boring and tedious as fuck to collect. It seems more like torture than fun.

>>15207689

you take breaks

the game is meant to be played casually :^)

>>15200576

>I think the issue is that they're trying to hard to focus on the children. It's the same issue that Smash Bros and Sonic suffer from as well

That would explain the majority of the people who make threads on either franchise.

>still

you act like it was ten million years ago

fuck off

>>15198168

I'm still playing. Honestly think it's the best 3D Mario since SM64.

Off and on. But that's not praise, I just like having "empty" games that I can play and not think about. I think of Mario Odyssey as only barely above a clicker game, in terms of engagement.

I stopped playing it after going for the extra worlds. But I will echo >>15208625 's remarks, maybe not best, but most consistent, since m64

I think one of the bigger problems people have with it is that they're expecting Super Mario 64, or worse, a collectathon, but that's not really the case. Super Mario 64's major collectable, Stars, are very much like completing a full level. You can see this more clearly in the Galaxy games. On the other hand the most standard collectathons (for the record, Banjo and Spyro) have you completing an objective more often than not. It's not a terribly important distinction, really, but it's there. You also don't have any minor collectables (henceforth called thons) in Super Mario 64 (the 100 coin star is padding, don't let anyone tell you otherwise) but in Spyro and Banjo thons often gate progress and moves. Now, Galaxy 2 has comet medals, but rather than thons they seem to be more like secret exits? On the other hand, 3D Land and 3D World do have collectables, but they serve a different purpose. The Star Medals and Green Stars, respectively, have nearly identical traits. They lock your progress at points, requiring you collect a certain number, and there are three in every stage (with some extras scattered about). They usually require very little beyond exploration and occasional minor challenges, although some of them are more complicated than others. Similarly, Power Moons are actually more similar to the collectables in the 3D titles than anything else. We can probably do some statistical analysis on this, of a sort anyway. I'm going to give the ratios for the minimum reqired collectables to beat the game, the minimum required for the last real roadblock for each game, and the total collectables available.

3D Land: 100/290/335

3D World: 170/342/380

Odyssey: 124/500/880(not counting the shop moons apparently)

What I find most interesting about this analysis is that the minimum requirement for game completion is a similar actual number, clearing most roadblocks takes a huge percent of collectables in the 3D games, but is more lenient in Odyssey, and the fact that Odyssey has so many more collectables, although that's somewhat expected given that the game has a much larger scale and the fact that these collectables also seem to replace 1-ups, serve as story beats, and the end reward for more structured challenges. I don't know if anything I said was worthwhile, but I thought it was neat.

>>15198168

>Do you guys still play Mario Odyssey?

Nah once those credits rolled, the game went back in its case and the case back in the cupboard.

BING BING WAHOO! :D

>>15200576

Said it better than I could. I've been telling my brother exactly this, they've been catering to kids making games that are easy enough for kids to play. I fucking played and beat RPG's when I was a kid and couldn't read, fucking kids today are retarded and can't figure shit out.

>>15211563

Not really. It has more flair but both Galaxy games are superior.

>>15200566

>implying no gimmicks isn't a gimmick

>>15213382

Yea the byproduct of that gimmick is lasting fun.

>>15213410

I think they did that just so they could put in 999 moons.They probably never intended the average player to get all of them.

>>15212177

>>>/tv/

>>15207662

Reggie mocked the smashfag because said smashfag first mocked reggie for not playing smash for 14 hours a day.

So where's all the possession rape pr0n?

>>15227719

It's all over the place, nigga. Search any porn booru.

>>15227707

sounds like Reggie being an idiot, tbh

>>15206762

>thinking Odyssoy > 64

Do you even romhack?

I have never played a Nintendo game in my life.

>>15229362

Then play a SEGA game.