6b2c8a No.15167704
https://web.archive.org/web/20180717175909/https://www.please use archive.is/2018/7/17/17582070/octopath-traveler-haanit-dialogue-localization
Seriously aren't journalists meant to be well versed in the language they they write articles in? But stuff like HAVE AT THEE! in a fantasy jrpg seems too much for them.
b715b2 No.15167724
>current year+4
>still caring about journalists
Get thee hence.
c8712b No.15167728
>>15167704
>Journalist takes about how the chinese ESLs are having trouble with the game
>Anon somehow interprets it as the journalist saying he himself has trouble with the game
How do you retards keep not getting the basic gist of the articles you link to? God damn.
91cdd2 No.15167747
All you have to do to become a journalist is never have an original though and willingly fill your barely moderately sized brain with the leftist garbage that professors (and later your bosses) deluge you with. They are barely even human beings, just husks kept plump and juicy with generous portions of mind poison that they parrot back to the public with narry a thought or afterthought of their own tacked on. All the while they sincerely believe that they are superior to the masses in both intellect and ethical "goodness."
Journalists are explicitly chosen for having this demeanor nowadays.
9a91e6 No.15167756
>>15167728
>Journalist takes about how the chinese are having trouble with the game
>takes
Laugh and lament for thou tongue is ill suited for discourse with those but a swine!
4fe3a1 No.15167757
Who's more retarded here: Kotaku for leveraging chinks to complain, or OP for defending localization?
f77ce7 No.15167759
>>15167724
>>15167728
Par for the course. Watch as this thread gets 200+ replies with barely any discussion about the game itself.
4fe3a1 No.15167765
>>15167757
Hidden bonus option C: Me for missing that it's Polygon.
db5cec No.15167781
>>15167704
I learned the word "erstwhile" just from watching the trailer, so I can understand how a non-native speaker of English may have some difficulty reading all the dialogue. That being said, what are some games that are helpful for developing language skills? Either for English, or any other language that you might be learning. Bonus points if it's not a strictly educational game, but just happens to have an emphasis on language.
e18b72 No.15167799
>Translate X game to Y language
>Dumb down the translation so non-speakers of said language can enjoy the game
Nah fuck off Polygon.
5544a7 No.15167806
Good job making a clickbait thread, we're all proud you believe you're smarter than a kotaku writer
ec0144 No.15167811
Of course non-english speakers cannot grasp english, who cares?
f77ce7 No.15167821
>>15167781
I'm kind of interested in it now. Shame it's a Nintendo title.
04edb2 No.15167825
>>15167821
Worse actually, it's Square Enix.
f77ce7 No.15167835
>>15167825
It's only coming to the Switch though, right?
04edb2 No.15167837
>>15167835
As far as I'm aware it isn't published by Nintendo so maybe not but who knows. Bravely Default never got a port.
338b75 No.15167846
>>15167704
>Journalists
The very screencap you posted says the Chinese have trouble understanding the game, not the writer of the article himself, you illiterate shitstain.
For that matter, I'm wondering what the chinks would think of the English Dragon Quest localizations.
ec0144 No.15167848
>>15167837
Has any 3ds games been ported to the Switch?
9a3c29 No.15167859
first they couldn't jump dash, now they can't even comprehend english
at what step will they forget how to turn the game on?
ce5f32 No.15167861
>>15167704
>didn't even read the the pic he posted
Are you sure it's not you who can't understand basic English?
db5cec No.15167866
>>15167821
I also am curious, but I don't own a switch and I'm not a big fan of RPGs.
04edb2 No.15167867
>>15167848
Hyrule Warriors sort of counts but I was more talking about the game getting ported to non Nintendo systems like RE:Revelations.
dfba7e No.15167906
>>15167704
>reading video game (((journalism)))
>linking video game (((journalism)))
>talking about video game (((journalism)))
you're part of the cancer supporting this garbage. they will deliberately write incorrect/click baity shit purely for exposure and views. stop falling for their kikery faggot.
231762 No.15167908
>>15167759
But the thread isn't about the game. The thread is about how Polygon should just fuck off and die and leave our hobby alone.
05a9aa No.15167909
>payen thy debts
>pagan your debts
>????
231762 No.15167921
231762 No.15167939
>>15167906
>stop falling for their kikery faggot.
They are bottomfeeders but if 8chan's boycotting alone were going to kill them they would have been dead ages ago. They are being propped up.
f8e453 No.15167944
>>15167724
Oh ams wowee, I understoods that reference!
5100a5 No.15167951
>>15167724
Dost thou art defecating upon mineself, foul knave?
b5600d No.15167952
>>15167909
A rare time they are right. Bit for the wrong reason. In the nip she doesn't use olden talk, her speech is pretty common. This is a hack lib arts grad with no talent to make their own stuff, so they shit up a translation instead.
48e8c9 No.15167985
>>15167704
>Reading Shakespearean English (or earlier) is definitely high-level stuff
>material made for plebians and nowadays read by middle-schoolers is high-level stuff
f5cffd No.15167993
>>15167704
MORE FUCKING CLICK BAIT POSTED ON /V/ PLEASE FUCKING DIE
c0636c No.15168000
>>15167704
>Shakespearean english is hard
06e67c No.15168016
>>15168000
>this shit is real
Fucking end it all.
912d48 No.15168023
Jesus christ OP, did you even read the article or did you only screen cap a bad part of it?
>Chinese Nintendo
>without a Chinese localization yet
they're saying this shit is hard to read for China, not polygon.
42736d No.15168027
>>15167781
Pah. English is my second language and I'm fine. Perhaps people who study a certain language should attempt to, oh I dunno, understand it. Don't know the meaning of a word? A dictionary is one search away.
e4c11e No.15168046
>>15167704
>reading shakespeare is certainly high-le el stuff
Nigga that's junior-high level stuff.
700757 No.15168055
>>15167985
>and nowadays read by middle-schoolers
Not anymore. I was almost a teacher, and I had access to the curriculum for a certain school's 8th grade AP English class at one point. Shakespeare was nowhere to be found. He had instead been replaced with no name authors who were black, spic, female, or any combination thereof and whose work was on the level of things my school used to have us read in 5th grade. Long gone are the days of 8th graders reading Shakepeare, Tennyson, or Joyce.
>>15168000
And this is why people can't write to save their lives anymore. They're not being taught to read, let alone write, at anything higher than 4th or 5th grade level.
3e1668 No.15168070
>>15168055
Daily reminder that Common Core was specifically created to artificially retard the intellectual development of any human child that gets shoved into the meatgrinder they call Western public education. Spics and niggers are going to do just fine since they're already retarded.
aee197 No.15168075
Was this stuff present in the Jap version? Did they speak in old Japanese that no one alive speaks now? If this was just the (((localizers))) fucking with the product, like some Dragon Quest game, it's awful simply because they're fucking up the script just because they want to add their "flavor" to it.
>>15168027
>Don't know the meaning of a word? A dictionary is one search away.
Let's be fair, there are more differences between ye olde English and modern English than the way words are spelled. Someone who has never read any or much of it is going to have a hard time figuring it out regardless of access to a dictionary, especially if it's not their primary language.
de6a18 No.15168118
Shakespearean, sayeth thou?
f77ce7 No.15168139
7619f3 No.15168142
>>15167909
I gave that person the benefit of the doubt, but after googling around the word "payen" literally does not seem to exist in the English language.
finishedst -> finishest
I feel "thou hast finished" would make more sense though.
Also pretty sure that entire syntax isn't remotely close to what they were going for.
And here I thought Squenix had learned from their past.
de6a18 No.15168148
>>15168118
>>15168139
Hark, mine lack of vigilance hath procured false material!
3e1668 No.15168170
>>15168142
You hire pretentious indie developers and you get a pretentious, steaming pile of shit. Seems to me SE got exactly what they paid for.
d19fe0 No.15168182
>>15167724
>>15167704
You think it the journalists making triggering threads on /tv/? https://8ch.net/tv/res/1476599.html
f9d024 No.15168190
Maybe these fucking chinks should just fucking learn English then instead of bitching and moaning.
55bdf8 No.15168195
>>15167704
>1991
>I've just turned 5 years old
>get Final Fantasy IV as a birthday present
>start playing it
>can't understand 75% of what I'm reading
>go to library
>borrow thesaurus
>refer to it whenever I find a word that I'm stuck on
>almost immediately start reading at a level far above my classmates
>gives me the foundation to ace English class for the rest of my life, get side jobs as a newspaper reporter, get me published three times throughout my school life for excellence in writing
It's almost like challenging yourself to read and comprehend something above your skill level will help you grow as a person or something. Can't have that nowadays!
3e1668 No.15168210
>>15168190
To be fair English (or any other European language) is as nonsensical to them as Chinese is to us.
ca2b3d No.15168213
f9d024 No.15168223
>>15168215
okay, now this is epic.
d8a145 No.15168227
>TEM-8
>challenging
Only if you're a literal monkey. People in most European countries are proficient at English by the time they're 16. Chinks are dense monkeys that hate English so I see no point in giving a shit about whether they can play Western vidya or not. Publishers care sure, but the consumers themselves should have practically zero care whether some random angry chinkman can understand "Payen" or not.
Why the fuck does Polygon care? Are they game publishers? No. Then why do they care? It makes no difference to their income.
8c3376 No.15168231
>this isn't fair to people who can't speak English well
well, polygon retards, do you even know any Chinese? I hate these people so much
<we need to check our privilege when we use big words and olde English
<it's really mean towards these Chinese people
<oh yeah I don't speak any Chinese and I never touched a Chinese video game before lol xD *sips soylent*
f42ae3 No.15168237
All localizers should hang.
db5cec No.15168252
>>15168227
To be fair, Chinese and English are extremely different languages, and most people are only proficient in one. Very few Europeans are proficient in Chinese by the time they turn 16.
04edb2 No.15168271
>>15168210
Most chinks don't even understand their own language.
3e1668 No.15168276
>>15168271
[citation needed]
d8a145 No.15168287
>>15168252
>Very few Europeans are proficient in Chinese by the time they turn 16.
Of course, why would anyone learn mandarin?
0cb5b7 No.15168304
>>15167985
Early Modern English is high-level because the English language has changed greatly in the 400 fucking years since then.
Don't act for a second like pic related is easy to understand. What's taught in schools is a highly-edited and reworked version of the works from the era to fit modern English.
700757 No.15168306
>>15168227
>It makes no difference to their income.
Actually, it does. You see, these people are all donating to each other's Patreons. This is part of why the original Literally Who was fucking multiple game journos and why SJWs flipped a shit when Persona 5's localization wasn't done by one of their own. They're financially invested in who gets to do the localization, so they shit on it any time someone outside of The Party gets the job.
5ec666 No.15168342
>>15168287
delete your post idiot, none want to read…
3e1668 No.15168396
>>15168306
If only they were physically capable of being competent at their jobs no one would complain, but being a subhuman waste of oxygen comes natural to the leftists.
6ea9fa No.15168464
>>15167704
They write these articles to enrage you. You win by not caring.
06e67c No.15168532
>>15168304
I'm not even English and I can read and understand that with ease.
d19fe0 No.15168565
>>15168319
That’s french nintnedo
3ba03f No.15168573
>>15167704
>That one "gaming journalist" who actually went to college to major in Journalism
3e1668 No.15168583
>>15168464
The only way to win is to wipe them out.
05ecdd No.15168601
color me fucking unsurprised pink from the crayon box that's almost empty with all the colors we keep running out of because we use those fucking crayons every god damn day.
Holy shit op. How is it this bad?
51dedc No.15168627
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15167781
Sam and Max Hit the Road (and to a somewhat lesser extent, the Telltale Sam and Max games) are great examples of the writers flaunting their English prowess. The vocabulary just works so well without getting too obscure that nobody knows what they're saying.
b97d3e No.15168628
>thread supposed to be making fun of journo's English skills
>OP is actually the illiterate one
>followed by every other retard who can't click the archive and read the article or thread
Oh the ironing.
64e5d0 No.15168687
>>15167799
>>Dumb down the translation so non-speakers of said language can enjoy the game
Except in this case, there was nothing to dumb down. The Japanese is pretty basic and the translation team decided to (((localise))) it into flowery nonsense.
Would you faggots defend this if Polygon said the Chinese struggled with Scottish accents?
ce0f1e No.15168695
>>15167909
I knew there had to be something fucky going on with this game, it looked too good to be true.
>finishedst
>payen
This isn't even middle fucking English though. Polygon linked to a book written by a couple Reds. Since fucking when does Russia get to dictate our language? The Bakchesarian Fountain has wtf to do with my language?
>>15168304
I'd be so down for an actual middle English RPG written or at least advised by a true linguist and not some jackalope who uses words like "phonotactics".
37ee37 No.15168697
>>15168687
go back if you cant speak american prorpely paco
9cb1de No.15168699
>>15168215
>Russian hackers ARE real
>Still believing this meme.
http://g-2.space/#2
f1e0c9 No.15168715
>>15167704
>Reading skaespearean english (or earlier) is definitely high-level stuff
the jokes fucking write themselves
0cb5b7 No.15168813
>>15168715
>skaespearean
You have no room to talk when you can't fucking spell.
6d17a0 No.15168826
c7c562 No.15168841
>>15167704
>>15167909
Its a fact H'aanit's translation into sudo old English is a bit annoying. Otherwise I don't really particularly hate the translation and Polygoon is just being hyperbolic.
231762 No.15168849
>>15168215
> everything in that post is verifiably false
Nice goonposting. Now kys.
f1e0c9 No.15168856
>>15168813
I fucked up, I'll hold that L.
12c9b2 No.15168858
9fdd3a No.15168888
>>15167704
>Reading Shakespearean English (or earlier) is definitely high-level stuff
4a1736 No.15168908
>>15168215
By 2100, there won’t be any nonwhites left on Earth, anywhere. There won’t be any jews (who are not white, but you’re too retarded to know that, so it has to be spelled out) outside of a single location. A maximum security island, guarded by automated weaponry set to shoot to kill. If any jew tries to leave the island, a 50 megaton nuclear bomb explodes at its center, killing them all. They’ll be kept there for 50 years, and after two generations of jews know nothing but the island, the nuke will go off, anyway.
There is nothing you can do to stop it.
4a1736 No.15168916
72bb0b No.15168955
The only reason I can think of the (inaccurate) ye olde speak is since the village is very steeped in it's traditions. Like one of the oldest people in the world or some bullshit.
Yet, the culture of it doesn't match. Hunting folk wouldn't have been lords and ladies. It's like how in the demo there's a canadian woman in a sea-side town.
Other than that I've enjoyed the demo. A few flaws here and there, but worth playing. How much it's worth paying for or at all is up to you.
de6a18 No.15168994
>>15168888
Verily, my comrade in arms, a fine procurement
19b7bb No.15169130
>>15168841
>sudo
It's pseudo, retard.
a9ff54 No.15169302
>>15168215
>Mark and the mods finally listened and left the retarded posts up
000000 No.15169356
>>15167704
Journalists (a.k.a child rapists) are all semi-illiterate propagandists for the left. Every single one of them.
(((Professional journalism))) must be eradicated, along with all leftists.
>>15168215
And you are still an impotent leftist, as all others, that are rapidly dying (being killed by us), and you can't do anything about it, cuck.
0b777b No.15170021
>>15168695
It's completely retarded what they did, but payen actually is middle English.
https://books.google.com/books?id=LL4VAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=payen+middle+english&source=bl&ots=sSO-01440H&sig=f0serv0MN9STkBZHW97fmsFbIkk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCjaapzKfcAhUJR6wKHUUYAFAQ6AEIaDAI#v=onepage&q=payen%20middle%20english&f=false
And qwôsç bë absent, Jeanne he schal payen to Seynt Williams lyhte1 three pound of wax ; and it schal bën reysed and gadered bï pë alderman and his felas.
that said middle english is fucking incomprehensible gibberish to modern English speakers and shouldn't be included in a game where the text was all ordinary Japanese.
Tell me who can understand these sentences without cheating:
O wrang be-geten thyng ic oft Þat i moght quite, i quite it noght.
Hast þou borowet oght wel fayn And not I-quyt hyt wel a-gayn?
Ergo, soule shal soule quyte..And al þat man hath mysdo, I, man, wyl amende..And bothe quykke & quyte [C: aquyte] þat queynte was þorw synne.
000000 No.15175508
>>15168916
I just looked it up. Apparently >>15168215 was posting a copypasta from 4/pol/ april 28th, 2017. He deserves a ban just for being halfchan nu/pol/ cancer.