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I am not sure i'l be up to replay that thing again. I didn't liked mania levels and more open to replay some hacks instead.

>>15162501

Is Sonic Mania actually good?

12

>>15162537

8000 YEARS

>>15162501

Ending spooked the FUCK outta me!

>>15162536

Yes. Might as well wait for Plus if you're gonna play it.

>>15162537

Does it still use DRM?

>>15162574

It has a physical version now, so don't bother with leasing the digital version at all.

I've been waiting to pick up a physical copy, was very happy when they announced it. I liked replaying Sonic games because they aren't very long and improving on them has always been a ton of fun, so I'll probably be getting it soon.

im a big 2D sonic fan but still havnt played mania. if i do decide to get it, should i just get mania+ instead?

>>15162755

Yes. It has lots of extra content and you can actually get a physical copy. Never pay for digital copies.

>>15162755

Definitely, unless some news gets out that there's some insane changes it should be the same game but improved. I'm surprised you haven't played Mania yet because it's really good and has a ton of great details.

>>15162536

Not as good as Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

>>15162778

Which is not as good as sonic 2.

>>15162783

Didn't even know Sonic 2 exists.

>>15162802

>That commercial is shit

I liked it

>>15162802

It's another throwback commercial like the last Mania one

>>15162769

>>15162770

i'll do that. i refuse to pay for digital. still waiting for hatsune miku FTDX NA announcement, but its still jp only

>>15162885

Fuck you I just want to pretend I'm still in the era when video games were still good.

>>15162802

I have to ask mark how it felt getting mocked by the devs

>>15162959

I imagine it's like Chris Chan, where he tries desperately to convince himself that they weren't talking about him.

>>15163164

>>15162959

I didn't take offense to it. It's just banter.

>>15163803

I prefer Toei Sonic

>>15163751

I mean your on the spot reaction, where you realized they were talking about you specifically.

>>15162802

12 GAME OVERS

I will never understand how he managed to fuck up that bad. I've seen four year olds play better. I got a 1cc on my first run through of Mania just from being so familiar with the old games.

>>15165092

I want to make sweet murry Mobian molestation against Tails

>>15165684

>Angry Birds comic

People still play that?

No physical, DRM free version of the PC port it seems.

>>15162867

>i refuse to pay for digital

Smart man. Congrats.

At least you're not a mental midget like the moronic 0 IQ brainlets who still buy from steam and gog. The only acceptable options are pirating, emulators, and any free games. Never become a stupid, retarded dumbfuck that still pays for digital copies.

Team sonic racing does not fill me with confidence.

>>15166935

>Decent N64 emulator by 2040.

Being a tad bit optimistic there Anon.

>>15166910

And what a fluke it was. Unironically the best karter since CTR.

>>15166935

Ironically enough, Dolphin running the Wii N64 emulator might just be that.

>>15166935

>retarded anti-emulator scalper being retarded as usual

lol

>>15166884

The team mechanic is at least unique as a focus; leaving specific slipstreams for your partners is interesting.

>Need to pay 5 extra dollaridoos to get it if you have the game even though they said it'd be free

>The bitcoin mining jews aren't going to have it cracked for a while

It's like they don't even want people to play it

>>15167731

They didn't say it was free, though

>>15167390

Yeah, but is there a non-team, "normal" mode as well?

>>15166935

See >>15167038. Using virtual console in Dolphin is apparently superior to actual N64 emulators.

>>15166809

I didn't hate the remixed original stages but I'd so much rather see entirely new stages. I liked what was there, it wasn't perfect, but I, like probably many other Sonic fans out there have experienced the aesthetics, music, and style of those levels probably hundreds of times. They were still good, and the mechanics were excellent as well as even the remixed music. Here's hoping that Mania 2 or whatever is a proper new game.

>>15167764

>Here's hoping that Mania 2 or whatever is a proper new game.

At this point, Mania's done so well that it's just as likely to be good as it is to be sabotaged by Sega for doing better than their trash fire attempts at game development

I wouldn't be surprised if they just assume people only want fanservice and force them to keep rehashing old levels

>>15167780

Given how vocal fans are about wanting new stages instead of old ones (or at least old stages from weirder games like the Game Gear ones or Chaotix), and also given how Sega listens to Sonic fags too much (unless they're Adventure fags) I have a feeling if there's a new Mania it will be mostly new stages. It also might be terrible depending on how they fuck around with it. I'm convinced that the only reason they delayed Mania is because the team pointed out that the only time Sega went through with pushing a game for a certain date and it worked out was Sonic 3, and they had to cut out half the game and sell it as DLC. Actually maybe Mania + is a little like that now that I think about it. Well, better that than 06, Boom, or, uh, do you think Forces was rushed? I haven't paid any attention to that.

>>15167780

I don't share your negativity.

>>15167809

If Forces wasn't rushed then Sega has the worst fucking devs on the planet

>>15167809

>forces

>rushed

Dude they had 4 fucking years of development for that game, a rarity in these days.

>>15167877

Most of the people at Sonic Team might be tired of making Sonic games.

>>15167941

Yuji Naka pretty much wanted to not make Sonic since the first Sonic game, and after 3 and Knuckles he got his wish. However since Extreme never fucking happened they dragged him back for Adventure. It's no wonder he left the company, I wouldn't want to be in charge of Sonic. Nobody else on the team has a vision for Sonic. Who's the guy who's in charge of it now? The guy who started with CD? He's got no idea what he's doing. Lost World tried to get the Mario audience for fuck's sake, and they wasted a perfectly good parkour mechanic on that game.

>>15167975

You can witness the same fatigue in a studio like gamefreak. Get them a break from Pokemon and they make Drill Dozer. Get them a break from Pokemon and they make HarmoKnight. There's only so much you can do in sequels, and I find it's only an occasional event where a sequel results in the realization of concepts not brought to life in the first. Fuck, most of the time you can find unused content in first games that got re-used in sequels. I struggle to think of a game that wasn't like this.

Then forcing those developers to work with new staff, getting constantly poached by a bigger studio, constantly strung on a foundation of a game which even at the time was rocky at best, Sonic Team may be in one of the most unfortunate situations in gaming.

>>15168001

Gamefreak's never had a break from pokemon, Harmoknight was a project some random low level employee came up with

They'll give anyone a shot if they can come up with an idea and make a prototype in their free time

>>15162536

Yes, it's pretty good 2d sonic game.

>>15168001

The problem with Game Freak and Pokemon isn't so much the fatigue (although given how much better third versions are a year of development and feedback would probably have helped any given game) but rather unwillingness to keep what works (Game Freak "removing" features) and general incompetence (it's baffling how bad they are at some stuff). It's no wonder Gen 2 is one of the better games, they had years to work on, it, went through at least two different versions, and Iwata had to come in and fix their horribly retarded mapping mistake. And they still fucked it up because the level curve is awful, even if it's supposed to make some sort of sense in the lore. I've said it before, but Pokemon needs a game like Sonic Mania right now. Or more specifically, the opposite of the Game Cube games. When Pokemon was 2D, 3D was a novelty and the variation on gameplay was welcome. Since Pokemon has been struggling in 3D, we need a good 2D side game. Honestly, if the Pokemon Sage team got an actually decent programmer or two, went to TPCi, and presented a decently accurate Pokemon game engine with really nice art assets and maps, I'd hope TPCi would jump on the chance to get them to make a side game like the GC games. Genius Sonority sure as hell can't do it anymore, look at fucking Denpa Men, there's a franchise that's a microcosm of the entire vidya industry.

>>15167923

It's been theorized or implicitly stated that they spent 3 of those years just working on the new graphics engine for it to work on 8th gen hardware with only 1 full year devoted to the actual game, explaining the brevity and use of recycled content. I think a video they put out in 2016 had them in japanese sayong "2Sonoc 2016 Project start!!!" was used as evidence for this.

>>15167975

That would be IIzuka who started out as a newfag level designer for 3&K but character and environmental artist Kazuyuki Hoshino is probably the earliest remaining Sonic Team member yhere. (He's the one you see at the end of OP's video). Colors and Lost World's director Morio Kishimoto was responsible for Forces alongside Samba de Amigo and 06's director Shun Nakamura as the game's producer.

What did you think of the mania plus additions /v/?

Ray and Mighty are cool as fuck, but encore mode is a bit disappointing.

>>15171840

agreed, I'm also disappointed that Angel Island wasn't even a full stage.

>>15168473

>>15167975

I just hope they reassign Sonic to a new team, maybe Treasure.

>>15171739

>no Shahra or Merlina

>>15171739

Who gave blaze implants?