/v/ - Video Games

pirate it and find out fag

>>15129424

It's decent. I enjoyed it a lot.

How much would you pay for it?

>>15129473

>>15129448

i already stole it, just wondering if it's worth the time.

Not really, subpar. Get Underrail instead, and buy it if possible because it's a indie title rather than something by the scammers and conmen at inXile.

>>15129481

If you enjoyed Fallout 1 and 2 you'll probably enjoy WL2.

To it was closer to F2, which I very much liked. Though you shouldn't go in with too high expectations as you'll probably leave disappointed

Take Fallout

Make everything worse

Poz it slightly

You have W2

>>15129424

It's meh.

It's not bad, but it's clearly not good enough to strongly recommend it.

If you have nothing else to play it will do.

I've not played the director's cut but the original was boring as shit. A dry, uninteresting, uninspired, by-the-numbers Fallout clone when we wanted Wasteland 2. It also had severe performance problems and progression stoppers at release which didn't help.

>>15129542

Don't forget worse gameplay and the same ammo type doing 4x damage in a different gun

It's bad. I was stupid enough to back their kikestarter and I still haven't finished it, despite several attempts. It both runs and looks like shit, with long load times. There's clearly a memory leak or something, too. A bit of pozz, of course. The first non-player created party member you can get is a stronk womyn, stronger than your grown men and with typical masculine skills like the brute force field skill or whatever it was called. The writing isn't completely awful but not all that great either. More than anything it's just dull and boring.

>>15129512

>implying fallout wasnt pozed

>>15129424

I dunno, I just picked it up and honestly I'm still playing through the first one. (Wasteland 1988 is fucking awesome, btw, and the new soundtrack fucking rocks).

I've heard everybody shit on WL2 but I've heard nobody say why.

no

>>15129506

>If you enjoyed Fallout 1 and 2 you'll probably enjoy WL2.

lies

>>15129424

this shit is more like fallout tactics

>>15129655

It would be a decent game if the cover system was actually reliable. There are some segments where there's cover that doesn't work as intended and others that don't have any cover at all. It's also easy to tell that some parts of the game were created by different designers and writers without central oversight which makes it very choppy.

Minus that it's a barely average F1/F2 and nuCOM copy. I made it just past the junkyard where everyone on their forums say it gets better, it didn't.

>>15129716

dont forgot the shit camera that doesnt allow you to select objects through walls and overhead objects looking at you chopshop cyborg faggot computer that would have let me save the girl

>>15129655

It's hard to read the posts in the thread, huh?

>>15129802

yes

>>15129867

>>15129877

I couldn't get into underrail, although to be fair I only tried it for a couple hours. I recall not liking the combat and finding the world boring.

Give me a general build idea and I'll reinstall it and see if I like it more the third time.

>>15129886

stealth crossbowmen that punches enemies with your mind

>>15129899

Why would you want two seperate methods of attack?

I have a shit connection so the torrent will take an hour.

>>15129886

whatever build you go for don deviate much, it's one of those games that if you spread yourself out you will get fucked so be great at one thing instead of decent at a bunch

>>15129886

Underrail is one of those games where you kind of have to min-max with only a few deviations and restarting the game multiple times to figure out the build you want. I believe I must have spent the first 20 hours JUST figuring out what kind of character I wanted to play.

But if you want an easy build I recommend stealth + sniper + SMG with some genades. Skip PSI and ALWAYS put points in Mechanics and Electronics. In fact, just dump all your points in stealth, guns, mechanics, electronics, lockpicking, hacking. If you have any points over just distribute them in something you want. Persuasion can be useful but this game is more combat oriented than diplomatic.

Seriously, with this build and if you play your cards right, you can one-shot pretty much anything. Including The final boss

>>15129909

>Why would you want two seperate methods of attack?

damage resistance types for starters, brain beatles are very physicly resistant when their shells are closed but you can still kick their asses with non physical psychic power, also their shells are usually open most of the time when out of combat so sneak attacks are a good way to start a fight, not just for Beatles, also stealth is good

Been playing games for over 25 years and never experienced a more buggy game. Thats the no exaggeration or hyperbole its really the worst.

>>15129909

>Why would you want two seperate methods of attack?

because no single attack type works against everything, but in general you are going to want a main weapon plus psi powers. crit and attack bonus can be stacked like crazy on stealth and crossbow. psi powers in general are great, but the punch can do a lot of damage and stun. the electric mind powers are great against humans, mutants, and bots, but there are some enemies that electric attacks do nothing except make them stronger. you can also use traps really well with a stealth character, but i prefer using throwing weapons instead of traps.

a good example is sniping an enemy from stealth with the crossbow and doing like 200% damage to them, which usually kills them. then throwing a flashbang to stun the rest, keeping distance as you shoot them and using the punch on any melee that rush you. there are even more options since you can craft bolts and make several different poison bolts, to electric stun bolts, incendiary, and explosive bolts. plus crossbow ammo is usually the easiest to acquire compared to other ammo types.

>>15129995

dont forget tho, the AP cost is much higher with crossbow than other firearms

>>15129424

if you enjoyed games with shitty gameplay like FO1 or FO2, this game improves on the gameplay while keeping the vibe the same it's pretty good

If I like turn based strategy games with guns, are there any alternatives?

>>15130058

Can you re-use crossbow bolts? Craft them? Are they significantly cheaper than bullets?

>>15130084

I know you can craft them and different poison ones from stingers, and I think you can extract poison into vials to use later I think but it's been a bit, I know you can make poison caltrops to just throw where you think enemies will run, also gas grenades I think

I dont remember if you can re use them but I'm pretty sure I pulled a few out of some alpha whatever outside a junk town after I played kite and ambush to kill the pack

>>15129652

Yeah, the original was great and people were still memeing blood sausages well into the '90s. I don't know why /v/ hasn't rediscovered it yet.

>>15130121

interface is ancient

It's alot of missed potential. I wanted to like it but overall its trash. Poorly written, bad pacing, unbalanced mess.

>>15130121

> I don't know why /v/ hasn't rediscovered it yet.

…I'm right here, rediscovering it. I even mentioned it in the (always too early) Friday night threads. :D

>>15130163

Keyboard only input for the motherfucking WIN.

>>15130185

I was actually referring to the gui but yeah

It was bland as cardboard to me, just shaped wrong. Maybe that retrofit they did changed something but I don't even care to reinstall it.

OK Underrail is installed. Oddities or classic? Oddities sound utterly shit to me, but I'll do whatever is suggested by someone who has played before. I try to avoid the trap of everything being perfect or not at all these days.

i dont know what happened

why was New Vegas good and this bland as cardboard?

Maybe they dont have writers or directors with a vision for the world?

not really sure, but general idea for it is good i guess,

but they clearly put too much effort into the gameplay(trying to make something out of everything being turn based) and too little into characters and worldbuilding

whatever was going at the inXile at the time didnt produce quality to match even first Fallouts

>>15130294

Please respond

It was ok but I have no previous experience with the genre. The hireable characters are mostly shit, and a lot of the weapon types are mostly bad. You can make a varied team work but it's honestly less versatile than a group with 3+ ARs and a sniper. Shotguns, energy and heavy weapons are woefully bad for most of the game, a pistol focused dude can be good with very high initiative and speed to get him into enemy lines to pick off nearly dead baddies.

I managed to finish the game but the last 10 hours were a serious slog. My team was big fat shotgun guy, nimble pistol headshot ninja, 2 basically identical rifle masters, the Indian sniper and 2 other named dudes I used as non-combat skillmonkeys/medics. Keep lots of explosives and pump your combat stats early because making most your shots is way better than whatever trash vendor loot you'll miss out on in the first few safes.

>>15130103

>>15129995

>>15130294

>>15130362

Chose oddities

>sneak, aimed shot a rathound

>The one in the next room didn't automatically attack me

OK, I'm interested now

>>15130305

Considering the recent games in which development various prominent Obsidian members were involved in some way (Pillars of Eternity 1/2, Tyranny, Wasteland 2) we can conclude that New Vegas was only a fluke on otherwise uninterrupted, downward trajectory and they will never be good ever again. If they ever were that is.

>>15129424

Not really. It wasn't shit tier, but quite subpar nevertheless. Do what the other anons say and play Underrail

>>15131089

What's having shit taste like?

>>15131121

From what I remember, Underrail had shitloads of viable playstyles. Whatever you made, you can probably make it work with one thing or another.

>>15130291

inXile are scam artists. Fargo is leader of the scam artists, and he works with many other scam artists such as the management of Obsidian Entertainment and Tim Schafer. Brian Fargo is the founder of Fig, which is essentially a pyramid scheme and he is currently trying to make a crypto based gaming competitor to steam which is also a scam, with the spin that you can "sell" your game and get back 25% of the money in their crypto shitcoin. Do not trust inXile or Brian Fargo.

wasteland is ok.

underrail is shit that doesn't even scale above 1024X768 resolution.

>>15130291

wait, no white people in torment?

I never even got around to pirating it

>>15130305

>why was New Vegas good and this bland as cardboard?

Because the last good writers in the team took off at Pillars of Eternity?

pretty sure he was mexican too so that's extra bad

I think it was the guy that did the writing for survivalist for honest hearts and the fire wizard/monk for POE, got a huge back seat and took off after

if memory serves character and world building as one of his things

>>15131927

again that's all shit I can barely rmemeber and I'm mixing it up

I do remember Chris Avellone was one of ther better writers and took off too

>>15130675

you should look at the shift in staff in obsidian over time, one of these we should make a chart

>>15131233

good?

>>15131541

>this is bait

3 should be good. 2 was only to get fargo enough shekels to get back in the game, i never took it serious as a game and they obviously did not too if you look at the dumbass story

but if they blow 3 too than the post apoc genre is dead - rip for best genre with no games other than fo1,2,tactics and nv. shamest

>>15133156

they do not hire writers anymore, they waste that money on environmental artist slaves and graphic designers.

good looks make shit games, that's the new reality. rather play underrail dlc next

speaking of which… time to check out the codex from my rpg twitch. only bastion left for computer gaming

>>15131216

yeah, the man is a greedy shady tycoon. good thing he will (((retire))) after w3 so he can rake in the shekels.

lets face it, gaming is dead. or at least as dead as it gets. no more fallout 1's, no more deus ex (1). those were freudian slips at best - glitches in the matrix happening by accident. we were never supposed to see those

>>15129625

B-BUT IT HAPPENED YEARS AGO SO IT DOESN'T COUNT, ONLY STUFF WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS CAN BE POZZED

>>15129625

>>15133298

provide examples to disillusion me, I want to suffer

decent

>>15129490

>>15129490

> Underrail

>>15129867

> Underrail

>>15129877

> Underrail

Isn't that text rpg? How much is gameplay and how much story shit?

>>15130305

For one thing, Fallout: New Vegas and Wasteland 2 were made by completely different developers.

>>15133688

it plays like fallout anon, like fallout tactics mechanics with fallout content

>>15133739

HOW MUCH IS GAMEPLAY AND HOW MUCH TEXT BULLSHIT FILLER STORY

>>15133741

mostly gameplay you faggot queer

>>15133741

jsut fucking pirate it and try it already

>>15131034

On higher difficulty levels 3 x AR plus one sniper to initiate combat is the only sensible option. Everything else is shit. Melee requires time that could be better spend shooting. Energy weapons are ineffective even against robots, not to mention they are completely shit against any meat bag whatsoever. Heavy weapons jam too much to ever be useful. Shotguns don't have the range and SMG are just worse ARs in general. Thanks Sawyer. 2 AR bursts per turn is the only sensible way to play.

>>15133746

>>15133745

What the fuck is this shit? Picked hard difficulty, can't even pass the rats

Is there an isometric RPG only CRPG tier list?

>>15134565

I bet you did something stupid, post skills and stats

>>15133823

>Thanks Sawyer

Are you retarded? Sawyer had nothing to do with Wasteland 2. He's the PoE guy.

>>15135106

inb4 entire party has 1 speed

>>15133188

No, I am positive and will keep playing and supporting new good games. I just won't buy generic multiplayer shooter shit, but I will support smaller but good studios like Piranha Bytes, sometimes Obsidian and sometimes Larian. RPGs won't die.

captcha: nshitz

>>15135106

Put 20 points in crossbow and 7 points in agility. I expected to have 3 - 4 shots per turn and kill enemies in 2 shots max.

I will restart the game. Specialize in shotgun.

>>15137207

anon I already said earlier that crossbow has higher AP cost than other weapons, do you even original fallouts?

>>15137207

also DEX is movement points and Agility is how much AP is consumed by LIGHT weapons, and jsut to be clear these are the light weapons "(unarmed, fist weapons, knives, throwing knives, pistols, SMGs) "

>>15138491

>>15138500

yeah uninstalled the game, took too much to travel between places.. engine is limited, no run, no fast travel.. fuck that not wasting my time travelling between dead areas

>>15138516

I think I know a place that's more your speed

>>>/reddit/

>>15129424

I died in my first encounter because I put all my points in "Smartass"

>>15139064

Just like real life.