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>What do you think FFXVI will be like?

shit

It's going to be even worse because SE is too stupid to learn lessons

>>15125958

It could be decent if they continue the trend of adding mod support like they did in FF15.

>>15125958

It will take 25+ years to make.

>>15125958

>What do you think FFXVI will be like?

Non-existent.

>>15125990

We can only hope.

>What do you think FFXVI will be like?

it's gonna be bad, boss. They'll probably add more waifus to save the series though

>>15125958

I want to fill Alexa Bliss with my Mexican seed.

>>15125990

Unironically this. I'm tired of being sold the idea of a game based on its name. Brand appeal has become a sign of weakness.

>>15126019

/tv/ pls go

I hope VIIR kills the series completely. In the unlikely case that actually becomes REmake tier good, then who knows.

It's going to be episodic with a pay to win model with microtransactions and loot crates for a PAID SINGLE PLAYER GAME.

>>15125958

>wanting FFXVI

Anon we all know SE will fuck this up and make it more unfinished and less polished than FFXV and it will take 4 times as long

we won't get XVI until the 7 remake is out. so another decade maybe

>>15125958

Shit.

Square is poisoned with fujoshit and faggot abominations.

Go ahead and sue me but FFX is my favorite one! The story is coherently told and focused. You're constantly on a journey into new and strange places. The entire "theme" of the game is water, which is pretty aesthetic in itself. The sphere grid is actually not that great, but it does allow you to make Tidus a white mage, and Yuna a melee attacker if you wish. The turn based combat system is my favorite combat system of the series. The Aeons aren't just random "wtf am I summoning" abilities like some other FFs, but are central to the story. I actually enjoy the story and I think it has a lot of impact, the whole issues of "this journey is doomed, we have to break this infinite pattern". When the party says no to turning Yuna into the final Aeon and potentially throwing all hope away, I thought was a great moment.

Anyways, I'm sure FFXVI will have an active battle system and probably a shit story focusing more on looks than substance like FFXV.

I fully expect it to come out for PS5 maybe even ps6.

Considering 15 was easily their worst game i would prefer a completely different game or something at least opposite of what 15 was. I would also like them to fire everyone involved in writing 15 and get someone who can string a proper story with actual characters together.

>>15129993

Something like this, but with modern graphics and a trillion available classes like V or Tactics would be cool. I personally don't need voiced protagonists or deepest lore, but that stuff is so ingrained in the franchise by now that I don't know if Square Enix would even be willing to consider it. Having a set character cast has allowed them to do things like the spinoff movies and games with the VII cast, and adding Noctis as a guest fighter in Tekken 7.

>>15130161

FV's main problem was that even after many years of development it was still overly ambitious and ultimately unfinished. If the story wasn't so uneven and the climax wasn't so rushed it would have wound up being my favorite. The last third or so of the game was supremely disappointing after the cool adventure it started out as. I know they've released a lot of patches since but I haven't felt compelled to go back and try to care about them. Also they pozzed their game by throwing in Ass Creed stuff.

>>15130429

'meant XV

>>15130407

>and was more fun to actually play once AotI launched some actual content.

Also, to expand - **AotI introduced the Just Attack/Just Guard system, which sounds retarded, but the base game was a soft-whiffing of PA spam with no feedback or timing required. JA/JG was optional, but by timing your attacks properly - like you needed to do in PSO - it changed how you approached enemy mobs. Made you more cautious in figuring out the timing to your combos so that you wouldn't get hit from the flank - and gave normal attacks an actual purpose, namely to stunlock enemies while refilling your PP gauge instead of - again - just blindly spamming PA and then popping Photon Charges when your blue meter depleted.

It wasn't perfect, and wouldn't be perfected until PSP2/PSP2i/PSZero introduced chain building/breaking for damage multipliers. So you'd have a flow of using normal timed JA attacks to build a chain while supplementing PP regeneration - then breaking that chain with a few special/PA attacks for big damage. Though that only applies for Hunters. All Rangers gun attacks consume PP, and their primary role was just spreading status ailments and building chains so they needed a cooldown period where the rest of the party would cover them - while FOs were all about party buffs and healing punctuated by a few well placed nukes when the chain broke. **

I want a Crystal Chronicles.

>>15130452

As any sane man should. This foul era lacks thick selkie booty.

>>15127094

The shitventures of a crybaby soyboy that got cucked by the ugly-haired priest and whose father is a lot more interesting and better character than him.

>>15130161

13 was worse. Literal nigger pandering, and a strong talking dog (woman) protagonist that was not hot and looked like a faggot. The characters acted like terrorists and complained that the world called them terrorists, and the game played by itself with minimum input (as 15), but with it all being a gigantic corridor.

>>15130524

>The characters acted like terrorists and complained that the world called them terrorists

Not that I think this characterization is accurate but it does tap into something I don't know if many people saw: FFXIII was trying to be FFVII and it failed.

Final Fantasy has become unenjoyable. It's just such a mess of gameplay ideas that do not work. I shudder to think about ff16.

>>15130541

considering the age of the franchise it's only recently that it's become so unbearable, and i think it's because they have no fucking idea what they want to make anymore. if they went back and made just another meat and potatoes JRPG it'd probably sell gangbusters at this point, because everyone's so fucking sick of corridors, cup noodle and lightning. i agree that XVI will likely be a piece of garbage however given the last like ten years of fuckups excluding FFXIV

>>15125958

>What do you think FFXVI will be like?

I assume it will be another MMO or complete bomb that even normalfags won't buy.

>What do you want?

For Square-Enix to let it rip, almost anybody who could make it good again already left.

>>15126013

Don't joke about that.

I didn't need reminder that some people were saying FFBE is FFXVI. As if latest installment wasn't bad enough.

>>15130572

They just keep removing directors from them. They changed FF12 and FF15s director half way through development.

Their redo of FF14 proves they can make games, they just don't dare do it with the main franchise.

>>15125958

It's going to be agni's philosophy but fleshed out. So an open world shooter

But that will be decades down the line when they are done with FFVII:Remake and after WW3

>>15130531

It was. It is known by some time now. 13 was literally made to be a FF VII Remake in disguise. To the main cunt looking just like Advent Children's Cloud, to the whole "muh we are fighting oppression" part (expanded, to pander to communists, like any current Square game) to the whole nature and shamanism-like shit "overcoming the harshness of technology".

Square basically made a whole game out of the Midgar section in 7, put some open areas in some places, copied what 7's was most recognized for, and tried to sell it as a game.

>>15130541

This.

Up until 9, everyone thought "i can't wait to see what will Square create next".

Nowadays, it is "what piece of shit will Square create next?".

>>15130572

Try "since FF 8". 8 started the whole shitty trends that still poison the franchise today. 8 started the cinematic looks (instead of the superior anime-styled looks), started the trend of characters made realistic/cosplay ready and based on some shitty celebrity, started the shitty plots, "neon cities" and "idiotic weapons so journos would have pics of them to show and discuss". And many other stupid ideas that infested the franchise.

>>15130771

14 proved that they are out of touch "groupie-like" old men that cheer for whatever is currently trending in any medium. The reworks as only possible because they would have gone bankrupt if 14 failed. That made then swallow their useless pride. But when they are in comfortable positions again, they won't let any good ideas be implemented. Only what the deranged old men at the top think that is "cool" at the time. And it is never good.

>tfw no WWF RPG with a BROKEN Matt Hardy

It'll be shit.

>>15130881

So you want Sneak King with a better combat system?

>>15130698

Final Fantasy Brave EXVIus

>>15130861

L'cie autism got in the way of it all.

ATB is the fucking worst. It punishes you for thinking about your moves by making it "real time" and punishes you for knowing your shit by forcing you to wait for the gauge to fill up. Regular turnbased combat is better.

>>15125966

/thread

Did you know that asking questions wich you know the answer for is a sign of autism OP?

I really hope it's XV Versus, with a non fucked storyline like how it was originally envisioned. It's not too late for them to use the same XV assets and just change minor things ala majoras mask. I think XV is a distant second in terms of "the story that could have been" only next to Destiny, which will likely never be surpassed until VIIR is released as the greatest failure to manifest the original storyline in a major title ever.

>>15130161

You should do some sleuthing around to see what XVs story actually should have been. It's worth knowing, if you can handle the disappointment.

>>15133014

> Boy band adventures on the run from assassins but we stop to go camping and do odd-jobs for people for money despite being rich as literal fucking princes and some fishing because why not

< Aranea, champion of the wind crystal, as a proper member of your party never ever ever

Worst possible outcome.

>>15132948

CTB from FFX is really one of the best turn based systems I've played, but they never used it again

>>15133180

100% objectively correct.

Final Fantasy came to a close when Sakaguchi left

all final fantasies post sakaguchi are usually shit

>>15133180

FFX-2 also has the best, fast paced and fluid ATB system in the entire series, but it is wasted on that cash grab sequel

It will be a MMO. They're all MMOs now.

>>15133374

Tranny Returns was painted over a WIP Valkyrie Profile though from what I've heard. It shouldn't necessarily be indicative of FFXVI

>>15133425

I've heard praises about X-2's battle system but I refuse to play that shit.

>>15133438

MMOs are too expensive.

There will be a XVI MMO, but it will be separate and designed from the start to be a "companion piece" to XVI, just like XV was originally designed as some kind of companion piece to XIII.

Like how XV now has a monster-hunter mode to explain the complete gutting of the second half of the core game where they rushed the ending because they were bleeding money from this mismanaged waste of a franchise.

Except the MMO will be XIV all over again, with no hope of an ARR redemption attempt.

Because SE never, ever learns.

They admitted Bravely Default did better than they ever expected and could not believe people still wanted those traditional style RPGs, and yet what have we seen since?

Fucking nothing.

>>15133476

Its probably among the best implementations of the job system, but the story is absolute garbage to the point it feels intentionally awful

>>15136090

I'd give it a chance if they didn't completely rape Yuna's character transforming her into some slutty-clothed idolshit. I noped the fuck out of that intro

>>15132944

The whole production was ruined from the start. Everything was destined to fail, when you read about who were working on 13, what were they purpose, mindset, and what the failed developers did to create the game. The whole thing was a mess since the very first trailer.

>>15132948

True. It is has the worse from both systems.

>>15133014

15's original planned history that was abandoned is one of the main reasons why the final game is so rightfully hated. And it is one of the strongest examples of why it is ok to judge a product by "what it could have been" instead of by what it is.

>>15133180

That is also true. They abandoned the good system, and kept the shitty characters and shitty plot. Square's priorities are a red flag to anyone still hopping for anything good from that has been company.

>>15133394

Partly true. The thing is, there are numerous hacks in the industry that ride the fame, but never deliver when they are on their own. Final Fantasy stopped being good when Sakaguchi's TEAM left. One person is not the sole responsible for a team's good product.

>>15133462

It was. And worse: the second 13 one was done sacrificing a Chrono Trigger 3 that was in development.

>>15133374

>lightning is tolerable when shes literally copy pasted over the protagonist of valkyrie profile when usurping her next game.

>>15136498

>The whole production was ruined from the start. Everything was destined to fail, when you read about who were working on 13, what were they purpose, mindset, and what the failed developers did to create the game. The whole thing was a mess since the very first trailer.

Any good sources? I imagined it was a good trainwreck but I'd love to hear more.

>>15136498

>And worse: the second 13 one was done sacrificing a Chrono Trigger 3 that was in development.

Do you have evidence of this? That's revolting.

>>15137261

Toriyama forced his team -in a north koreanesque environment where you must sit in eyeview of a lightning poster at all times or get kicked from the team- to vastly overproduce assetts for 13 which meant it didn't make back a fraction of its costs. Why do you think they shilled lightning so hard when nobody likes her?

Gotta flip those assetts for money mang. So Valkyrie Profile 3 and Chrono Crusade both get rebuilt into a lightning sequel hoping the final fantasy name will make them sell.

Then Bravely Default made more money. Imagine that.

>>15137280

I wonder if the guy who made Toblerone knew about this. He would seem like a normal person if so

>>15137261

>>15137260

Do a quick search in any search engine. There are multiple outlets telling the history. Basically, Square had 2 teams developing both a new Valkyrie Profile and a new Chrono Trigger. Then, the main team developing 13 fucked everything up, and to recoup losses, Square, ordered the Valkyrie and Chrono games to be turned into 13's sequels.

Search for the development of Final Fantasy XIII and you surely will find it. Everything from 13, from the start, was a mistake and turned into a money sucking cancer that killed other games and made a huge hole in Square's finances.

As for 13 itself, the first trailer was done before they even knew what the game would be like, and they outright lied about it when they showed a gameplay similar to Devil May Cry, that never got into the game, among many other lies and alterations. And then, the whole Fabula Nova Cristalis fiasco, that was such mismanaged that all 3 initial games that would be related to each other under the name Final Fantasy XIII became separated games. One being turned into Final Fantasy XV out of desperation and 10 years of delays.

I hope both Tetsuya Buttpirate Nomura and Gackt die when SE even start thinking about FFXVI.

>>15137843

Gackt dying will improve japanese entertainment as a whole.