b4b3a6 No.15124071
So while everyone is bitching about fake news and manufacturing outrage I guess we missed something that actually matters.
DENUVO V4.9++ HAS FALLEN
https://torrentfreak.com/latest-denuvo-anti-piracy-protection-falls-cracker-voksi-on-fire-180706/
What may or may not shock you is this part though:
>“The game executable is 128MB big, of which just 5-6MB is the real game code. The rest of it is Denuvo. It’s the most bloated Denuvo I’ve ever seen.”
ONLY ~4% OF THE GAME .EXE IS THE ACTUAL GAME. THE REST IS DENUVO
For those wondering, here's a list of games that use Denuvo, it's depressingly large:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo#List_of_games_using_Denuvo
It basically covers almost every single large company in the business and even some smaller ones. We need to get people to actually care and vote with their wallets. I don't wanna hear any defeatist shit either, crazier things have worked before.
f36e2e No.15124083
>"(Voksi)The Bulgarian coder doesn't want to share too many of his secrets but informs TorrentFreak that he won't stop until Denuvo is a thing of the past, which he hopes will be sooner rather than later"
Voksi is a fucking anime character confirmed
113d7f No.15124085
>>15124078
>piracy
>stealing
How is duplicating something stealing?
2418b2 No.15124086
I wonder if this'll be a trend. Bloat game filesizes to all hell and back with DRM and unoptimized garbage code and then conveniently offer streaming games as the solution. Even stating that streaming is a solution to poorfags who can't afford larger storage space ignoring the fact if you can't afford larger hard drives then you definitely wouldn't be able to afford a decdent internet connection required to stream games.
4570f7 No.15124091
>>15124071
aww shit, Voksi is a really cool guy.
2362f7 No.15124092
>>15124086
The best part is that first iteration of current gen consoles were shipped with 500gb hard drives that today are barely enough for 5 games.
56f767 No.15124095
6af486 No.15124097
Voksi has been cracking every game except the only one that's good: Dragon Ball Fighterz.
2418b2 No.15124101
>>15124092
It'll only get worse as 4K and 8K gain greater adoption rates.
b5e226 No.15124102
Where are all those retards that kept shrieking about how "newer denuvo versions had no one working on them"? And how now they REALLY REALLY made an uncrackable version?
Are these denuvofags the newest form of goldenface, doomed to get btfo over and over for eternity?
b4b3a6 No.15124106
>>15124086
>if you can't afford larger hard drives then you definitely wouldn't be able to afford a decdent internet connection required to stream games.
But that's exactly it, do you really think ISPs wouldn't be in on this too? They're far more evil than any game company could be, and I'm sure they cream each time they think of their subscription-based services replacing things like hard drives. If these companies can put a subscription on anything, they will.
>>15124097
>What is: NiER: Automata
2362f7 No.15124108
>>15124101
I am not waiting for 8k resolution, i am waiting for 8k textures. You don't even know what fun game sizes we're yet about to see.
3b1cb9 No.15124110
Great, can't wait for DBFZ to get cracked.
ea9fb9 No.15124117
Reminder that while cracking Denuvo games is always great, next to none of them are worth downloading in any capacity.
acdce2 No.15124120
>>15124095
What are you, some sort of poorfag that you can't afford a bigger hard drive? Wow, get a job, you fucking NEET.
I'm sure there's no performance impact either, I mean, that's just unsubstantiated claims, made up by pirates to promote themselves!
seriously, though, 120 mb for anti-piracy is fucking mental, fuck this industry for allowing this shit.
>>15124108
Doesn't the real bloat come from complely lossless uncompressed audio in voice acting? I'm sure that it's possible to bloat the audio even more, but how much more?
2362f7 No.15124122
>>15124120
>I'm sure that it's possible to bloat the audio even more, but how much more?
Ship game with every single sound in flac.
acdce2 No.15124125
>>15124122
You mean they don't yet? Isn't that why VA takes up 20 gigs of space in games now?
2418b2 No.15124126
>>15124106
At least in Burger land the underlying infrastructure isn't there to handle something like. I'm sure the ISP's would love the idea, but that would require the money they recieve to actually be spent on improving the infrastructure, which will never happen.
>>15124108
That's what I meant. Only the dead will know peace.
b4b3a6 No.15124131
>>15124117
>none of them are worth downloading
>Unravel
>God Eater
>Resident Evil 7
>NieR: Automata
>Sonic Mania
>Dragon Ball FighterZ
>Valkyria Chronicles 4
>Yakuza Kiwami
Try harder. These games at least are certainly worth pirating.
f14f3e No.15124134
>>15124131
He said next to none, not none at all.
acdce2 No.15124135
>>15124126
Watch the media praise this as technological advancement. Pic related.
d3f92e No.15124138
>>15124071
>96% of game download is shitty DRM.
>Shitty DRM gets cracked.
DRM defenders beat the fuck out. This shit is basically bloatware that does not even work.
56f767 No.15124139
>>15124135
I thought this was a crash blossoms at first. Look it up
That makes no goddamn sense.
b4b3a6 No.15124142
>>15124134
But that's not next to none. That's at least 8 games right there. People were unironically recommending the Wii U with less games.
045a47 No.15124146
>>15124071
Just waiting for the publishers to delay their game releases to get another update of Denuvo in place.
fab931 No.15124147
>>15124131
>Resident Evil 7
>Dragon Ball FighterZ
>Valkyria Chronicles 4
Terminal case of shit taste.
acdce2 No.15124149
>>15124138
It does say "the executable", not the game itself, so I assume the separate assets take up a bit. I know it's just Puyo Puyo Tetris, but the game itself is probably more than 6 megs.
Still, it's fucking insane for it to be so noticeable. I get that these faggots want their anti-piracy but back in the good ol days, it was just some data at the beginning of the CD, or in a random section of code, that's why it took a bit to crack some methods at first.
b66ee5 No.15124152
>>15124126
>At least in Burger land the underlying infrastructure isn't there to handle something like.
Yeah, the scam the telcos have been running here is to collect truckloads of subsidy money, buy cocaine with it while their infrastructure rots, and then use the rotting infrastructure as an excuse to demand more subsidy money. And they've carefully divided the country up between them so that most people only have one ISP available, so there's basically no competition.
I've got about 3 mb/s download and 250 kb/s upload. Speed tests would say I have more, but those have no bearing on reality; I think the telcos cheat on those. Anything requiring a non-third world connection is going to be out of reach for most of America.
3c8ac7 No.15124161
>>15124152
>I've got about 3 mb/s download and 250 kb/s upload
That's reason enough to start public lynchings.
3c8ac7 No.15124197
>>15124181
All these read like bait posts made by very lazy trolls.
58ad75 No.15124204
>>15124197
>trolls
Close. Paid marketers.
1edde9 No.15124206
>>15124197
For us here it indeed looks like that's the work of retards baiting. But unfortunately, that is how the average person talks on the internet. These users are dead-serious. Take a look at the steam Yakuza forums and prepare to witness true normalfaggotry and eternal shilling.
44e616 No.15124207
>We need to get people to actually care and vote with their wallets.
Doesn't that mean I would have to actually buy video games instead of taking them?
2362f7 No.15124209
>>15124181
Yakuza is really overrated and barely replayable to be honest. After completion there's barely anything to do outside of challenges and arena, and when you're done with that you're stuck with self contained minigames that aren't really varied and don't give you as much fun as a main game stuff.
They are desperate for thing they never tried out because console users praise their every purchase.
113d7f No.15124220
>>15124209
>Yakuza is really overrated
Have you played Yakuza anon?
a32f56 No.15124221
>>15124206
That's the scary part, what anons post ironically for a quick laugh is something most people honestly believe.
f19261 No.15124225
>>15124181
One question: How is
>your pc is literally 10 years old
not a valid argument? How ironic is complaining about game's performance while sitting on ancient pc? Any self respecting person who is interested in newer games will upgrade unless he's some degenerate neet living on 'tismbux. No matter where you live you can affort to upgrade cpu or gpu every 5 years, especially if vidya is your hobby. If you literally live from one month to another not making any spare cash your life is beyond saving.
Sure, when you have 2 years old pc and shit like new games has performance issues that could be avoided by optimization there is no excuse for bad performance. I dont shill for denuvo, this crap should never been made and i pirate fuckton of games myself because im from poland and nobody here gives a fuck about catching pirates.
60cfe5 No.15124227
>>15124207
yea but who cares about people doing jobs, they should make games for free like anton and coolpecker!
44e616 No.15124228
>>15124227
>yea but who cares about people doing jobs
Not me.
58ad75 No.15124229
>>15124220
I watched someone play Yakuza 7, and it looks pretty average. Lots of cutscenes, and the gameplay looked really easy on the hardest difficulty. Just spam food and throw shit in the arena for ez win
113d7f No.15124232
>>15124227
>Yakuza 7
Give us details anon, considering Yakuza 7 isn't out yet
1edde9 No.15124239
>>15124225
I made many threads about Denuvo, and most of these posts are from my threads. I have a better rig than the absolute majority of these retards but that doesn't mean I don't care about DRM and performance drops.
It's not an argument. It doesn't matter when a game is released, what matters is how good it looks. When for example Crysis 3 looks and runs 100 times better than the average modern trash game then the problem here is not your rig, the problem is the incompetence of the developers.
58ad75 No.15124241
>>15124232
>>15124229
I assume you meant to reply to me and you're right, it was Yakuza 6. Still, the points stand about the gameplay
adcbae No.15124242
>>15124225
It's just like how removing Adorbs bullshit DRM makes their programs start-up faster.
60cfe5 No.15124243
>>15124239
>the problem is the incompetence of the developers.
always this. i've had 100x more problems with shitty coded unity games burning up my gpu and hdd than any denuvo game
f19261 No.15124245
>>15124239
That is true, but not every game can be made on crysis engine and i think writing whole engine and a good one is a hard task and devs will defend their secrets
ef353f No.15124266
>>15124225
>Sure, when you have 2 years old pc and shit like new games has performance issues that could be avoided by optimization there is no excuse for bad performance
What about 3 years? Or 4?
Where you draw the line? I'm genuinely curious.
For me it's 5 years, but I sometimes wonder if that's too generous.
c9ab90 No.15124267
>>15124152
And this is why internet should just be a public utility. I'm usually for letting markets play themselves out, but at this point the US internet market is beyond saving.
1edde9 No.15124271
>>15124245
CryEngine is garbage, which is why I chose that game as an example. It runs like shit, but still better than many "next-gen" games that struggle to maintain more than 40fps on a RX 580 or even a 1080 Ti despite looking extremely mediocre and having muddy textures and abhorrent LODs.
Also, his very argument was nothing but baseless assumption. "People complaining about Denuvo have bad computers and are poor haha!"
Did he look at statistics? Or did he pull that out his ass? Probably the latter. Having a $8,000 computer that runs every game on 144FPS on max settings at 4K doesn't mean thatt you suddenly don't care about Denuvo. If the denuvo-free version runs even by 5fps better than I am fucking insulted. Why the fuck do I get worse performance for paying them money?! They can go fuck themselves.
f8d236 No.15124282
>>15124071
>“The game executable is 128MB big, of which just 5-6MB is the real game code. The rest of it is Denuvo. It’s the most bloated Denuvo I’ve ever seen.”
how many layers of virtualization and obfuscation are you on my dude?
<not enough
dare I ask how bloated v5 is going to be?
81570c No.15124285
>>15124282
>dare I ask how bloated v5 is going to be?
so bloated that it son't fit on people's hard disks.
f14f3e No.15124293
>>15124225
>One question: How is your pc is literally 10 years old not a valid argument?
Assuming you're speaking from the perspective that the person making the argument knows, for a fact, his opponent is on ten-year-old hardware and not just making grand assumptions, because it's about why the game runs poorly. Having higher quality graphics, audio, and just more game is obviously going to require better hardware. That doesn't excuse games running worse because they had DRM injected into them, and it doesn't excuse devs/publishers foregoing optimization just because hardware, that can handle unoptimized garbage, exists.
113d7f No.15124301
>>15124071
>The game executable is 128MB big, of which just 5-6MB is the real game code
So is Denuvo only 128MB or is it dependent on the game?
ef353f No.15124306
>>15124302
It's not? Mania was selling like crazy despite denuvo.
I imagine Yakuza ports will full meet their expectations.
f8d236 No.15124317
>>15124301
there are a number of working parts - that is just the main executable that bootstraps the whole thing.
it also does depend on the game and how it's implemented and loads resources
81570c No.15124320
>>15124306
>Mania was selling like crazy despite denuvo.
Mania had been snuck in at the last minute.
ef353f No.15124326
6af486 No.15124330
>>15124106
Why would he crack something that was already cracked?
6c0a4e No.15124335
>>15124306
nigga I'm just making a joke about sega pissing away hundreds of thousands of dollars for denuvo licenses that are gonna be wasted. Especially since they have a new release that uses it coming out on Tuesday.
f14f3e No.15124339
>>15124326
Unfortunately, but you also have to remember the stunt they pulled with preorders and that free copy of a Sonic rom, which basically forced people to keep their preorder even if they didn't want to.
60cfe5 No.15124342
>>15124336
well of course pcfags don't care about denuvo, look at how easily it gets cracked and then some fag rolls in pretending consoles give any sort of freedom
339aec No.15124345
I'm beginning to think the guys that make Denuvo either have developers and publishers by the balls in some way OR they really have good snake oil salesmen among them.
Question, I know Denuvo is made/pushed by the trademark police in USA, but is it required by law in some sense? Gotta watch out if that becomes the case….
ef353f No.15124346
>>15124335
I mean I hope it will hit them, but I doubt it will.
acdce2 No.15124355
>>15124345
There's no laws requiring it, that'd be fucking ridiculous it wouldn't shock me though, at this point. It's just that a lot of devs that use it are out of touch. They see that a game will sell more on a console than on PC, decide that this must be due to piracy and shoehorn Denuvo into all their future games.
92bf5b No.15124363
There's this steam curator tracking games with Denuvo. Not a small following but not as big as I would hope it would be.
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/26095454-Denuvo-Games/
60cfe5 No.15124365
acdce2 No.15124366
>>15124357
Yes, anon, normalfags are retarded and put up with anything as long as it's convenient. That's why Steam is so popular. It's also why companies can get away with selling $2000 "gaming" PCs that have worse specs than mine $600 one from four years ago. And it's also why consoles can get away with anything as well. PS4 sold 75 million with no games, and they keep getting away with their cross-play bullshit because normalfags do not give a shit, they're too busy playing fucking Fortnite.
3c8ac7 No.15124415
>>15124306
>I imagine Yakuza ports will full meet their expectations.
I wonder at the rate they'll be releasing them. Yakuza 0 at such a low price is obviously a way to familiarize the PC crowd with the franchise, shortly followed with the remake of 1. I don wonder when they'll port over the re-releases of 4, 5 and 6.
1edde9 No.15124671
>>15124363
Nice find, thanks lad
f77c5a No.15124681
>>15124131
>Resident Evil 7
I want Outlast faggots to get away from my RE.
>>15124196
Go away Sadiq Khan, we won't tolerate your consumer terrorism.
>>15124241
No it doesn't.
000000 No.15124693
>>15124225
tl dr kys shill
>>15124266
I bought PC in 2012. i3 8Gb 7850HD2Gb
Still playing new games alright. Usually 40-60fps at max settings excluding shadows sometimes.
But then again I always use denuvo-free editions of any games.
Just now played HitmanTM benchmark shows 42fps on average.
Witcher3 runs at about 50-60 and graphics is even better.
Black Desert lags but i guess it's because of networking since it's only in populated towns.
FC5 has same shitty graphics as 3 and just as boring.
No other new shit even caught my attention.
However I don't feel like upgrading at all even though I could. I mostly play potato Japanese games, Zero Hour or Warband anyway. Would "new" games stop working I can't say I care anymore. It's not like they're offering anything new.
Not even graphics or physics in games is getting better. Even reflections are mostly thing of the past. Fallout4, watch dogs and many others doesn't have them. I have no idea how to justify upgrade anymore or how do they justify system requirements.
Any unity asset flip about floating shit "requires" 20x more powerful rig than Crysis.
ae9936 No.15124697
>>15124083
>is a fucking anime character confirmed
fd14e3 No.15124724
>>15124071
>>“The game executable is 128MB big
Hahaha holy shit. I remember when
9e5e6b No.15124733
>>15124122
They use use wav for that, that's even bigger.
3c8ac7 No.15124734
>>15124724
I still don't understand why companies keep hiring these Austrian kikes when it's been proven time and again their shit product doesn't work?
504862 No.15124737
>>15124734
Moronic investors who get caught with the marketing teams buzzwords.
0ca029 No.15124767
>>15124085
If you spend months designing a budgeting software that works really well and streamlines the process, if later I simply buy 1 copy and make thousands more how much money do you think you're gonna make from your program.
I'm not saying all piracy is wrong and most games deserve to be pirated, but this idiotic idea of "IT'S JUST DUPLICATION ITS NOT STEALING" is a fucking joke of an argument.
Any inventor would be dead in the water in terms of finances if that line was picked up by people at large.
I design software for a living, it takes month to make software, sometimes on a contract sometimes freelance that I then try to pitch to companies, if someone were to buy it and then distribute it themselves, yeah it is stealing not of the software itself but of the IP, plus everytime you buy a game even if all you want to do is crack it and then make it available you sign a contract that forbids you from copying therefore it is still illegal.
b762b5 No.15124825
>>15124225
>Any self respecting person who is interested in newer games will upgrade unless he's some degenerate neet living on 'tismbux. No matter where you live you can affort to upgrade cpu or gpu every 5 years
Except there is no incentitive for me to upgrade my current build (Pentium G3258 + GTX 1050Ti + 8GB RAM) considering how garbage the PC platform has gone to be for this whole decade (and no matter how much the mustard race tries to say the contrary). I got my dose of nippon games more from consoles for those past few years.
1b6d71 No.15124835
>>15124734
>>15124737
>>15124345
>when it's been proven time and again their shit product doesn't work?
The fuck are you talking about? Injustice 2 came out in May and Puyo Puyo Tetris in February. Your definition of "working" might be as stupid as you are, anon.
f5e070 No.15124838
>>15124767
>illegal
What value does this argument have when the guys on top producing this trash can break the laws as much as they want? The less the masses care the laws and the potential punishment that come with breaking them the better because that'll collapse this rotten system.
That's not even getting into the fact copyright laws are part of the reason why everything is so fucked.
b93999 No.15124851
>>15124225
>How ironic is complaining about game's performance while sitting on ancient pc?
Because if they didn't put it in I would be a ble to run the thing? Are you fucking retarded? You are forcing me to change hardware over the paranoia that somebody is going to make an copy of the game without giving shekels.
b4b3a6 No.15124875
>>15124851
I think he was more trying to say that you should weed out shit specs being the root cause before blaming Denuvo. That being said, we DO know that Denuvo affects performance in many games. If I remember correctly Watch Dogs is a great example of this.
0bc591 No.15124878
>>15124207
There is no "this game is shit" vote.
There's only
"I don't care about this vote / not part of the audience" vote and "this game is good vote". The latter is more of a "I heard about this game off of a YouTuber or was charmed by the marketing+advertising, and now I want to play it" vote rather than any retrospective judgment from the actual playing experience.
There is no "this sequel is decent, but they removed a nice feature from the previous games" vote. There is 0 granularity in getting across your impression of the game in a way that would better reflect the video game market.
3f0af0 No.15124880
>last iteration
>ONLY ~4% OF THE GAME .EXE IS THE ACTUAL GAME
66269d No.15124892
e713ac No.15124893
>>15124767
>"IT'S JUST DUPLICATION ITS NOT STEALING" is a fucking joke of an argument.
But duplication is literally not stealing.
If you had said that duplication is wrong, that's another thing entirely.
4a29c6 No.15124894
>>15124893
b-b-b-b-but is a lost sale!
3f0af0 No.15124896
>>15124875
>shit specs
Nigger, please. If they can't get o'er 60 on a 6+ core system they all deserve to die.
c8815d No.15124902
>>15124875
The biggest example so far is still Rime, I think. It's not a GFX heavy game, but Denuvo was so badly implemented that it worked like molasses until cracked.
And before the defense force shows up, the standard procedure as I've heard is that the dev sends a clean executable to Denuvo and they wrap it in their shitty DRM, so the fuckup is on their side.
b4b3a6 No.15124927
>>15124893
duplication isn't inherently stealing, but it can be in the right circumstances. That's why copyright exists in the first place. For instance, say you post a video on YouTube that's pretty funny, but gets no views. Then some cancerous Facebook bot takes your video and reposts it on their page, maybe even on YouTube, and gets 1 million+ views and hella advertising money. Is that not stealing your video?
To be clear I'm not arguing against piracy, I'm just providing an example where digital duplication could be accurately called stealing.
f07abd No.15124941
>>15124902
>the standard procedure as I've heard
ah yes, the old pulled out of my ass source, very reputable
1b6d71 No.15124946
>>15124927
>duplication isn't inherently MURDER, but it can be in the right circumstances. That's why copyright exists in the first place.
The definition of stealing includes "taking something away", if nothing is taken away nothing is being stolen.
You can't just make up new definitions for already established words just because you dislike something.
4a29c6 No.15124951
>>15124927
You are mistaking "stealing" with "copyright infringement" if anything and even then is a bit of a stretch.
ae9936 No.15124957
>>15124946
Nothing IS being taken away. You clone a sandwich, that person still has the sandwich.
Piracy is piracy, not stealing, whatever is in your moral compass is another thing.
fab931 No.15124974
>>15124927
The only reason this ridicilous wordplay continues is because faggots want to attach the negative emotions that come with the word 'steal' to copying so they can jerk about it or something.
Stop being a fucking faggot, copying is copying and it will never be stealing since those are two different concepts.
You want to argue the moral implications of those words be my guest but trying to bunch them up so that you can justify being a little bitch is just pathetic.
f77c5a No.15124975
>>15124927
Pirates don't make money downloading games or movies for private consumption.
ba141e No.15124976
>>15124927
>Is that not stealing your video?
Not really. It's clearly simply been advertised better by them than by you if they get an audience for the same thing and you don't. :^)
b762b5 No.15124990
>>15124975
I saw plenty of fags going SUPPORT MY WORK by using shit like ad.fly on download links though
48c98d No.15125007
>>15124957
Publishers think piracy is stealing because they actually think most people who pirate their game would have bought it instead. They're total idiots, but that's why they have such a problem with piracy. Well, one of the reasons. The other is that they also want to keep it out of the hands of people who aren't rabid fanboys. Because someone pirating their game the first week it comes out, telling everyone it's shit and game media lied to them, is the last thing they want. They make big investments into big gaming sites to make sure that their product is portrayed in a positive light. Someone who didn't buy your game getting on the internet and telling everyone the game actually sucks is their worst fear.
When publishers discuss piracy with shareholders
>see here this download link had 5,000 downloads, that's 5000 * 60 lost in revenue!
>>15124975
Go to a site like igg games, they make a ton of money. So does kissanime. Owning a site that lets you bypass DRM is extremely lucrative.
63a322 No.15125017
>>15124941
Well I don't know why he cites Rime if he didn't play it, all he had to do was relate his experience with games with denuvo that aren't cracked pirate copies and compared it to the cracked version.
I've only played 2 games that I didn't pirate exclusively with Denuvo Yakuza 0 and MGSV. Now for MGSV I barely got any problems but my fan was always going off all the time until it was cracked the biggest difference was Yakuza 0 where I'd have inexplicable lag which went away once it was cracked as well.
14c6c8 No.15125020
>oy vey, Shlomo, da goyum are stealin' our gaymez waddawe do?
>I know, Haim, use Denuvo!
>Denuvo, Shlomo, but it'z bigger dan de gaym!
>I know, Haim, but the goyum don't and it will stop all the pirates and such.
<Most Denuvo games get pirated 0-7 days after release
As a lifelong pirate I can say that the only thing Denuvo does is waste bandwidth. Otherwise, it's completely useless.
c9ab90 No.15125031
Since we're all arguing about changing definitions of words and such, why do we call it piracy if it's nothing like stealing? I've never heard of a pirate copying a doubloon. Maybe if we want people to stop thinking it's stealing we should find a better term to use.
478bde No.15125039
>>15124085
If you exclusively pirate and don't support the developers of things you enjoy even if you have the ability to do so, you are essentially 'stealing' as you gain access to the product without paying for it.
094774 No.15125040
>>15125007
The reason why kissanime does is because it has existed for over a god damn decade and a half and is still alive. I remember when the damn site still offered rvmb downloads for anime, I'm fucking surprised that someone even bothered keeping it alive by buying the damn site up.
3b1cb9 No.15125045
>>15124767
>IP
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html
"Intellectual property" might be a nice ideal but it is currently a term used to confuse and take advantage of confusion. Stop using it, say what you mean.
e5915b No.15125046
Multiplayer is the only copy protection that works. In the future all games will be multiplayer only.
14c6c8 No.15125051
>>15125031
Because it's the term we use. It's actually pretty neutral and most people don't think much of the term.
Most people aren't that retarded, anon.
ae9936 No.15125054
14c6c8 No.15125057
>>15125046
>multiplayer copy protection works
Eeeeeeeeeh, it depends. There are ways around that too.
7b1c10 No.15125058
>>15125007
>Publishers think piracy is stealing because they actually think most people who pirate their game would have bought it instead.
This. I think the reality is that some of the piracy contributes to loss in sales. But it certainly isn't anywhere near 100% of all pirated copies downloaded (which is what publishers/devs assume when they claim lost sales). People only have a certain amount of expendable income to spend on games each month or per year. Most people who pirate tend to pirate a lot and wouldn't be able to afford the amount of money on games that they pirate every year. If piracy suddenly didn't exist perhaps some fraction of the loss in sales would be recovered at best.
ca7dce No.15125059
>>15125031
A few reasons. Piracy was repurposed for illicit software sharing, as it wasn't really a first world problem and stealing describes the physical act of theft, wherein an original item is taken illegally. Piracy these days is only really practiced by brown people, much like software piracy, so it fits.
12636f No.15125068
>>15125020
This
At this point Denuvo provides as much protection from pirates as a soggy tissue does to prevent pregnancy.
It's just irritating and doesn't stop anything.
c8815d No.15125069
>>15124941
Try to play hardass, huh. Go to leddit and check Crackwatch, then. If you can't/don't want to here's the rundown:
>Integration workflow into a game:
>The protection is a post-compiler step and does not need any source code modifications on your end (only three compiler / linker settings must be enabled in VS).
>We have an online encryption service which is available as SaaS (hosted in the AWS).
>Step 1: Provide us (access to) a (running) build with three compiler / linker settings enabled: /pdb /map /fixed:no; the Steam app ID and Steam private key
>Step 2: We create and run our performance profiler and play the game collecting performance uncritical functions
>Step 3: We setup the game project on the protection server and send a cmd line tool to the dev team with instructions how to embed it to the build process
>Step 4: When running the protection our engine decompiles the exe, parses the collected functions from step 2, injects the security code and recompiles the executable (and creates an updated pdb for debugging)
>We usually see this workflow done in 1-2 weeks but suggest to start integrating it 1 month prior goldmaster date to have enough time and focus – also for testing.
Pay close attention to We create and run our performance profiler and play the game collecting performance uncritical functions. They (Denuvo) do this.
>>15125017
And where did I say I didn't play Rime? I said it's not resource demanding on the graphical side, and that's an observation made when y'know, playing the game.
And while we're at it, even Harada blamed Denuvo for issues with the PC version of Tekken 7.
478bde No.15125071
>>15125057
>Eeeeeeeeeh, it depends. There are ways around that too.
There are but they generally give you a subpar experience that doesn't compare to just buying the game officially. There are generally few ways to ban cheaters, if the game is constantly updated it's a pain in the ass to maintain and keep people/servers on the newest version and if it has no LAN or custom server ability at all, there is basically no way at all to do that.
a86fd9 No.15125091
>>15125020
As someone who buys their games nowadays i wouldn't even mind Denuvo if it werent so damn intrusive, performance taxing and other problems it has and has had.
Also majority of Denuvo games are shit and sadly the moment you got the money to spend on vidya means you got less free-time or other shit to do during it so you won't be gaming nearly as much as you used to be when you were a penniless high-schooler or NEET.
73ea00 No.15125102
I'm buyfag but I'm having orgasm every time Denuvo beaten.
c9ab90 No.15125104
>>15125051
But it's absolutely not neutral. The term itself being used to refer to people copying works predates the internet (the Stationers Company of London used the term as far back as 1557 to refer to the unlicensed publication of books) and was used to reinforce the idea that it was a criminal act. This isn't some term that we the community came up with, it's a label we were given by the very companies we fight against. If we don't like the idea of the term stealing being used to talk about unlicensed copying, then we shouldn't like piracy being used either.
12636f No.15125111
>>15125102
You also retard that can't speak proper.
5003a1 No.15125114
You know what's funny?
Drm's technically illegal in the states, like, I get every company has tried to redefine selling you a product is actually renting it.
But technically?
All DRMs illegal
4a29c6 No.15125120
In the end we can all thank Disney for the shit that are copyright laws today.
f778aa No.15125130
>>15125102
>I’m buyfag
You don’t belong here. Never post here again.
acdce2 No.15125136
>>15125120
Speaking of which, the copyright of Mickey Mouse ends in 2019, I think. Can't wait for them to change the laws again.
f778aa No.15125139
>>15124330
Because it isn’t. Because it crashes every 5 minutes on the PC version, no matter what fixes are applied in combination and no matter your hardware configuration.
4b147c No.15125148
>>15125114
Tell me more. I've heard this statement before but I've never seen it elaborated on.
9dab46 No.15125156
>>15124102
>Where are all those retards that kept shrieking about how "newer denuvo versions had no one working on them"?
That was me. I was explicitly saying the only person working on Denuvo at that moment was Voksi and I was fucking right. Injustice 2 took almost a year to get cracked. Cracks are taking a long time and it would have been catastrophic if Voksi hadn't showed up.
I'm very glad he did.
>And how now they REALLY REALLY made an uncrackable version?
Ok, I definitely didn't say that. Either I didn't see that post or you're exaggerating.
14c6c8 No.15125161
>>15125104
Doesn't matter, it's the terminology we use. It's effect on people is null. What it was intended for 500 years ago is irrelevant to how it's used now.
Nobody has any trouble with the word.
4a29c6 No.15125170
>>15125136
That soon? I thought I wouldn't live to see them renew the laws.
acdce2 No.15125184
>>15125170
I was a bit wrong, it's 2023. Still, quite soon. That, and you should have seen once, you were hopefully around in 98, even if young.
5003a1 No.15125187
>>15125148
Well you see, in the states there are pretty concrete and extensive rules concerning personal use of a product that has been sold to a consumer. Basically ensuring that consumers have essentially unlimited rights to do whatever they want with something as long ad you aren't duplicating and redistributing it" and sometimes even then (forking a piece of software) that, if we're going off consumer laws and stop pretending digital purchases are now somehow rentals because EULA LOL. Technically speaking DRM isn't legal since it's a claim of ownership over somethung that has been sold.
Going further into it the "you don't actually own the software because we as a company own all the individual assets that make up the game" excuse which is the current one which they cling to is debatably sound considering it's effectively manipulating copyright law to suggest they somehow own the rights to a product they sold you because as a copyright they own the parts that make up said product.
9dab46 No.15125197
>>15124345
>I'm beginning to think the guys that make Denuvo either have developers and publishers by the balls in some way OR they really have good snake oil salesmen among them.
Neither. Investors are just really fucking jewish and immensely paranoid.
>>15124734
It has proven that it worked. Some cracks took close to a year to be released.
14c6c8 No.15125203
>>15125184
>tfw they change the law instead of filing for an extension
>tfw they can just file for an extension
>tfw they can just trademark it.
>tfw there's literally no reason to change the law except screw with other people
14c6c8 No.15125206
>>15125197
>it worked
>years to release
Yes…in 2011. Since then, 99% of games on Denuvo get cracked within week 1.
4a29c6 No.15125217
>>15125184
I was 18 back then, and internet wasn't accessible for me at the time, let alone my interest in vidya and all the copyright shit one has to deal with.
9dab46 No.15125218
>>15125206
Denuvo didn't exist in 2011. I have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
Take a look at crackwatch and see the amount of Denuvo games that took longer than a week to crack for yourself.
65dcb4 No.15125220
>>15124131
>NieR: Automata
maybe if they actually fixed the damn thing.
14c6c8 No.15125234
>>15125218
>hur dur literally 2011
Figuratively speaking. I meant a long time ago when it was first introduced.
>check the dates
I did, the overwhelming majority of Denuvo games get cracked the same week, sometimes a little more. Very few games take weeks or months.
The only games that took months or more were the first games to use Denuvo and that's because crackers needed time to figure out how to do it. They did, now it gets cracked just as fast.
9dab46 No.15125240
>>15125234
Well, say what you mean to say if you don't want to be misunderstood. That's not my fault.
>I did
I'm not going to pull the list so have it your way. Don't care.
14c6c8 No.15125244
>>15125240
Of course you don't, anon.
000000 No.15125252
>>15124071
Good. Piracy always wins. Companies hate their own customers, and must never receive any support.
>>15124767
No. It is copying and free distribution. Go find another job.
9dab46 No.15125253
bde368 No.15125256
>>15124131
>God Eater
isn't that just shitty monster hunter but with youkai?
f77c5a No.15125276
>>15124990
>>15125007
>distributor is a pirate
>>15125220
I still haven't played that game because of Denuvo, despite it being cracked for a while.
7e1eac No.15125297
>>15125256
It has also been available on both PSP and PS Vita for fucking years. It only became famous among normalfags because of the anime adaptation which is putrid shit.
5003a1 No.15125304
>>15125187
Additionally: this is often why if you actually read a EULA there's quite a lot of often contradictory language concerning what type of "ownership" that the end user has, mostly because it's a means to confound someone in the event of a lawsuit in the hopes the company can get the suit passed to a biased judge (See: Most lawsuits in California/Washington) which, incidentally I might add, violate the terms of a fair trial considering the state courts of these companies have a vested interest in redefining legal use as illegitimate to ensure these companies don't crumble under their own weight.
ff9440 No.15125333
>>15125256
>shitty monster hunter but with youkai
That's Toukiden.
GE is a shitty monster hunter with anime edge that only gets good if you play solo (when possible, the story missions force allies on you) and go for no damage runs. Nice bullet system, shit story, fappable girls, recycled monsters up the ass. Try Resurrection if you want.
0a755e No.15125349
>>15125184
I wonder what would it take for the American people (I'm not even counting yurofags due to how half the continent is third world shitholes and hence copyright barely applies) to get up and force the law to be changed back to the 1974 standards.
d83393 No.15125359
>>15125031
For the same reason we use stealing instead of copying or copyright infringement, or why we use post traumautic stress disorder or "ptsd" instead of shell shocked for soldiers nowadays, or why sjws try to use cishet instead of straight. Words have emotions tied to them, especially long standing words with purpose, and the goal of the kikes in charge of these corps and other businesses have a vested interest in you feeling a certain way about a certain thing, so they try to repurpose and use words with negative emotions, or positive emotions attached to further their agenda, or try to make less terrible sounding words free of the emotion and stigmas attached to them so you don't feel the way you did about those terrible things. It's all a bid to control your emotions, the same as the shills in this thread claiming anyone whos ever pirated something must clearly be a brown person like this guy >>15125059
Is it really surprising that the people who are largely pushing denuvo and are known to be good at twisting words and glibness, as well as those pushing sjwism are the ones trying to manipulate the feelings of others by trying to repurpose words which have no right being what they're being connected to.
8bddeb No.15125405
>>15125256
that's toukiden. Which is a fairly serviceable series. Age of Demons is ass but Kiwami is pretty okay as long as you don't have 3 other ai companions (because it makes the game too damn easy), I'd advise just taking ONE AI companion with you on missions. The Mitama mechanic is the biggest standout of the games, as they can vastly change up your play style regardless of your weapon. Toukiden 2 does it even better than Kiwami, while also sporting the Demon Arm (see: supernatural grappling hook) mechanic.
Toukiden is pretty gud m8. I liked the story for 2 even though it's somewhat predictable God Eater is edgy mediocre shit.
b521c9 No.15125484
>>15124117
this is correct. it's only the derps who need them though, the gaming community is a cucked mess for 20 years now, in no small thanks to consoles for brainiacs.
but since they are so fucking retarded, this is where to money went - there are no good games anymore, only trash for morons.
ec0aef No.15125526
>>15125203
Pretty sure they can';t just file for an extension. They've not been able to do it every other time the mouse has come close to PD. That's why they change the law. Disney isn't in the business of spending millions if they don't have too.
Trademark and copyright are two different things. You can't trademark the Mickey Mouse character. You can trademark the mouse ear logo however (I'm sure they have) Also trademarks have to be continually defended or else they lapse. Copyrights don't.
I don't think you know enough about the subject to be talking about it with such authority.
9cac32 No.15125581
>>15124229
>>15124241
>I watched someone play Yakuza 7
>I watched someone play
>6
>Arena
die
>>15124209
die too
f9cc19 No.15125628
>>15124927
>hella
I'm going to rip your fucking throat out and pull your jaw from your skull.
98eb52 No.15125686
daily reminder
sony is behind denuvo
c27a20 No.15125706
>>15125628
Dont say such things while posting sylvie you fuck.
595406 No.15125710
>>15125484
Based redpill. More people on this site need to realize this. There has been no good games since 2011 and all of /v/ agrees with me, except for tidepod cuckchan derps.
>tfw chans have better taste in gaming then the rest of the internet.
>>15124131
Fuck off shill, all these games are shit. You go back to cuckchan while we actually smart users discuss the truth of the real quality of your favorite shitty games you like to shill so much.
595406 No.15125723
>>15124142
Go back to playing fortnite nushill. 8ch is a place for actual independent thought.
b4b3a6 No.15125726
>>15125628
>I'm going to rip your fucking throat out and pull your jaw from your skull.
Sounds like you're hella miffed, famalamborghini
>>15125710
>and all of /v/ agrees with me
f11de2 No.15125734
>>15125710
You have never played /v/ favorite game of 2017? That's shameful even though it has the Denuvo cancer.
b1f24b No.15125885
>>15125726
>hella miffed, famalamborghini
1db3c7 No.15125937
>>15125734
>That's shameful even though it has the Denuvo cancer.
>implying that's the only problem
The first one was better too, so I don't feel bad about it
f77c5a No.15126130
>>15125710
>yakuza
>nier: a
>shit
>>15125726
>hella
I grew up hearing a lot of that niggerspeak, I abhor it. I abhor it even more because it reminds me of Life is Tumblr.
97f50c No.15126149
>>15124131
yakuza 0 is going to have denuvo
97f50c No.15126219
>>15124225
>One question: How is your pc is literally 10 years old not a valid argument?
Because most games don't cater to newer graphics cards and more powerful rigs.
The same kind of graphics being presented in most of these games is doable with older cards very easily.
While, they may not be able to use """ultra""" high to low settings work fine, and, don't look really any different.
56c468 No.15126266
>>15126219 (You)
Is there a reason to have a high end pc in 2018?
5b1511 No.15126332
>>15126266
So you can post it on reddit and get upvotes.
c27a20 No.15126346
>>15126332
>that pic
Not enough bullying.
b5ce0d No.15126373
>>15126219
>>15126266
I want to add to everyone's discussion here by noting that I play most games on medium or high settings using a Geforce 660, FX-8350, and an old hard drive. The only games I can't play at 60fps are either games that include Denuvo or games made with Unreal 4, aka games that aren't worth touching. There is no reason to spend the artificially inflated $600 upgrading to a video card that I don't need.
016222 No.15126378
003367 No.15126379
003367 No.15126388
b1f24b No.15126389
>>15126373
>600$
I draw the line at 200$ (or 250$ if there's literally nothing else available) every 5 or 6 years.
And that's mainly because I want 60 FPS. If I didn't mind 30 fps, my 10 year old rig runs everything this one does at David Cage's 27 fps.
The only games it didn't run at all are the same games my current rig doesn't run at 60: Denuvo shit. Even Unreal 4 works flawlessly, but everytime I tried one of those early Denuvo hacks (that partially bypassed it) I was amazed how shit it run before the pirates removed it completely.
I'm tempted to pirate Injustice 2 and check this shit out.
377890 No.15126409
60fps was low even in the '90s. I don't see how you povertyfags stand it. I wonder if you've just never experienced higher.
d088f8 No.15126473
>>15124767
>How much money am I gonna make if you copy it wahh
>If I spend months designing budgeting wah wahhh
Don't care, not the end users problem.
Plenty of amazing pieces of software have been made by one dude with a shoestring budget, I don't care what you spend or thought you needed for production that isn't a concern of the consumer.
Nobody forced you to make something, you happened to make something that is infinitely propagated digitally and is of a subjective value that is inherently devalued by its non scarcity.
You're the joke deal with reality, get fucked son.
b4b3a6 No.15126541
>>15125885
>>15126130
Bruh y'all need to chill.
>>15126266
Sure there are.
>Ace Combat 7
>Cyberpunk 2077
>Witcher 3
>nuDOOM___ ;^)
>Emulating anything under the sun
>[Insert guaranteed replies game that /v/ hates here]
d4683b No.15126573
>>15126541
I play NuDoom at 60fps/1080p on high settings on a PC from 2012.
b4b3a6 No.15126589
>>15126573
>60fps
Yeah that would've been impressive in 2012 too.
f77c5a No.15126599
>>15126541
You need to kill yourself nigger/commiefornian.
>Witcher 3
Shit.
>Cyberpunk
Not even out yet.
>>15126573
>nuDoom
Both of you kill yourselves.
db8f21 No.15126619
>>15125184
Good god that graph is fucking awful. Why did they use a bar graph when there are no discrete categories? Why do all the bars overlap each other? Why do there at some points seem to be multiple bars sitting on top of each other? Why didn't they just use a fucking line graph?
I can barely read that thing, good thing it only contains information I already know.
d4683b No.15126623
>>15126589
I don't see much reason in buying a newer monitor, especially considering that would also mean updating my rig.
97cf56 No.15126649
I pirate games to test them. Too many games that come out nowadays are garbage and too many reviewers are paid off to say nice things about any game they get. I'm not poor, I don't like wasting money. Its a bigger risk to me to buy a game than it is to pirate a game. If I bought a game, I take the risk of having wasted $60 on a stinker. If I pirate a game, I get to test it, find out if its shit or not and then determine if its worth paying for. Most retailers won't allow you to return a PC game, if they even have them. Every online distributor has no way or an extremely restrictive way to "return" a video game you didn't like. Most games take a few hours to determine if they are worth it or not, some, an entire play-through. The two hours steam gives you isn't enough.
Video game devs need to bring back demos.
f3f9f3 No.15126650
>>15125017
Sorry but isnt the cracked version meant to play the same?
I know Denuvo obviously makes games harder to run and adds many bugs, stutters and such. Still, when a game is cracked, the crack does not remove denuvo. It only makes Denuvo "allow" you to run the game, but it is still encrypted.
One example of this is that benchmark from the leaked Final Fantasy without denuvo and the encrypted version. By the way, anyone has the video?
000000 No.15126697
>>15125686
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true.
>>15126650
It allows piracy. That is the only thing that matters.
f3f9f3 No.15126715
>>15126697
Yaeh, I'm all against Denuvo, I'm just pointing it out that even the cracked version of Denuvo games still suck(right?).
b4b3a6 No.15126747
>>15126599
>taking me at all seriously
>>15126623
Honestly I can't judge. I run a 75Hz 1080p monitor with a GTX 1080 so that I can have good performance over a longer period.
003367 No.15126753
>>15126715
The answer you're looking for is that the companies themselves know Denuvo shits up their game but don't care, so ask yourself if you should be buying a product with it again when they add it on purpose to fuck with you.
b9fcc5 No.15126898
>>15125139
This has nothing to do with the crack. It's the quality of the game as it was deployed on PC and never patched. t. played it through family sharing
3ae587 No.15127216
> “In the end, it might take some more testing and test cracks, but I’m very happy to announce that I won’t stop until we are Denuvo Cancer Free from all games,”
This is a soundbyte from a hero, ladies and gents.
3ae587 No.15127245
>>15124767
>"IT'S JUST DUPLICATION ITS NOT STEALING" is a fucking joke of an argument.
How is a fucking fact a joke of an argument you fucking moron? Intellectual property isn't even real.
3ae587 No.15127268
Reminder that if the dev put Denuvo on their game they are telling you to never buy it.
078a98 No.15127427
>>15125405
Toukiden 2 might not be a masterpiece but it's art style and music really is up there.
f778aa No.15127440
>>15126898
How the fuck is that legal?
2418b2 No.15127454
>>15127440
Because Square Enix doesn't give a fuck. They promised a patch sometime around August of last year and look where we are.
https://archive.is/DaOdJ
https://archive.is/j0acA
https://archive.is/R4NrN
078a98 No.15127456
>>15127440
Don't like it, don't buy it. Doesn't work, just refund it. Spent your free refund period trying to fix it or praying for a patch? Too bad!
789e8d No.15127466
>>15125007
>kissanime
Got banned the other day because I blocked ads, I'm sure there's irony there
d52d9f No.15127468
>>15126346
RIP AND TEAR her hymen
2418b2 No.15127472
>>15127466
>streaming anime
You deserve everything you get you cuck.
000000 No.15127474
>>15127456
Pirating it is better.
009b30 No.15127486
>>>15127440
>How the fuck is that legal?
Because money talks. Buyfags bought the shit out the game and didn't raise nearly enough of a stink. On top of that they had nothing else to sell in relation to Nier Autotomato. Peak interest is over.
However see Chrono Trigger on PC, which has been patched at least 4 times now to unshit it as it failed to reach saturation out of the box and has a terrible reputation.
See FFXIV which had to be relaunched. It was a tent pole title which had plans to monetize through subscription for years. Of course they were going to bow and scrape until they could recover. Its the only time I've seen a video game company actually apologize to garner reputation back. Sure FFxIV is back to being shit but thats another story.
Meanwhile in the case of Nier, they're onto the next project. Nobody raised enough of a shitstorm over it. Moneys been made and the community patched the game to a workable extent for them.
d1576f No.15127487
>>15124152
>Anything requiring a non-third world connection is going to be out of reach for most of America
Excuse me?
On 3rd world if you are poor, you get a shitty connection. If you aren't things are top tier…Today my ping is kinda high…Usually is 1 ms, downgraded my download speed witch was 120 with the old isp to this because of super lower pings on this new isp… Ps: The ping really is super low because this isp brings the optic cable inside the house on their modem beside the router and the Central is 5 blocks from my house.
d1576f No.15127511
Another try on different site
789e8d No.15127530
>>15127472
Fuck that streaming is a lot quicker and easier, I prefer to see everything that is out on one site rather than searching individually for each torrent for any one i want to watch
That being said unless I really like a series or want to make sure to get the blu-ray uncut version or something I wont bother torrenting it and waste valuable hard drive space
009b30 No.15127595
>>15124734
Its quite simple. Denuvo claims to guarantee the publisher a window of sales to capitalize window of anti-piracy protection in order to deliver peak sales.
Denuvo makes the pitch with retarded statistics and plenty of screen shots from places like this crying about Denuvo. Usually from threads started by or seeded by denuvo shills. Which is why you'll see comments such as:
>oh man I hope DBZF gets cracked soon
Meanwhile the publisher cuts a check to include denuvo. I don't know the financial arrangement but take a look at the games that have patched Denuvo out. NuDoom took it out and turned it into a marketing move. In reality, the nature of the contract was probably limited to a certain window and the removal was used as a crafty press piece to bump people off the fence and spur a few sales.
MVCI just had Denuvo removed and the impact was such that it directly impacted performance. Likely this was due to MVCI bombing and Capcom looking to cut costs. Its interesting to note that Denuvo apparently impacted the console versions of MVCI where the copy protection isn't even needed. Never the less it resulted in a huge patch across all platforms that had all types of speculation brewing about new characters. If a citation is needed on this, I'll dig it up, but there are plenty of youtube vids on this, including Maximillion Dood talking about it.
If you haven't figured it out yet, nobody cares about how shit your game plays as long as you're paying and not collectively stirring a big enough shit to impact the overall sales picture. Which is why buyfags take the brunt of the bullshit which gets inflicted on them. Publishers will load a copy protection that bugs the fuck out of a game within a certain margin AS WELL AS pay for it to be in place so far as it will guarantee a certain margin of sales during peak interest for a game. They literally have done the speculative math and know how hard they can fuck you before sales sour. They're not always right, see EA with Battlefront II for example, but they are right enough to stave off bankruptcy and continually profit. At least for now.
Denuvo is just the latest in a long line of horseshit that profits this way. A solution isn't just to wait and hope for some based fuck in the middle of nowhere to fix our problems. Most of you here whom aren't talking a good game probably practice what you preach. The only solution is to meme the fuck out copy protection until enough of the normalfags get the message and get with the program and the only profit thats left are the useless fucking whales subsidizing most of the cancer we have now. Post #GG being mostly useless, I won't hold my breath, but if you could meme an election your way, you could certainly fix this ass fucked industry.
56f767 No.15127633
>>15126346
That's Doomslayer, not Doomguy.
2c1847 No.15127716
>>15124071
recently uninstalled steam to try a cracked game, ended up freeing up about 300gig of hd space that i was wasting on games i dont even play. since then i've installed about x3 as many games as b4 and i still have space left over.
55a594 No.15127726
Copyright is a war tax imposed by the US on the rest of the world after WW2. It didn't exist in the URSS, and doesn't still in China - well China has its own copyright laws which void ours.
Scientific progress hold up is caused by copyright gating the free flow of information for the sake of the jew. Had the US be subjected to copyright laws since 1776, it would still be a farmer society.
63a322 No.15127730
>>15126650
I don't understand it myself, I guess Denuvo does something in the background while running parallel with a legit copy that crackers put in once cracked or something I don't know.
2c1847 No.15127742
>>15125220
im playing nieR right now and it's a fucking treat. its pretty much all the best parts of several different genres i enjoy, tho i kinda wish i had more combo freedom & more weapon presets. its the sorta game western devs desperately want to create but lack the skill to undertake.
>>15126541
nothings more fun than playing Witcher 3 on My alienware PC!
15555f No.15127748
>>15124085
one could argue that the fed does it all the time
15555f No.15127751
>>15124139
it does if you take away content
8efedc No.15127753
>>15127742
Really? All the genre blending made it meme-tier to me and I associate the shmup genre with undertale
15555f No.15127756
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>>15124875
>Watch Dogs
>this is a game I pirated and played a few hours before uninstalling
078a98 No.15127760
f3f9f3 No.15127933
>>15126753
Yeah, I don't buy a game that has denuvo in it. Still, even the cracked version gets fucked up due to Denuvo.
>>15127164
Thanks.
fbd1cb No.15127966
>>15127742
Quick question, did you actually play the first nier?
377890 No.15128000
>>15127487
>Today my ping is kinda high…Usually is 1 ms
You'll falling for a ruse. Your ISP has located an endpoint for whatever test you're using inside its network. Pick a location about 186 miles from where you currently are (1ms via light) and ping it. It won't be anything even remotely close to 1ms with a 50Mbit link.
b41994 No.15128169
>>15124767
You are arguing spirit of law ha! over word. It feels bad not to pay for something that you are supposed to pay for.
d195ff No.15128318
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>>15124927
Well aware you're shitposting but I haven't seen this video posted anywhere in a long time. It can explain the concept to actual retards pretty effectively, not just people pretending to be retarded.
b41994 No.15128332
>>15128318
But he has a point. You'd be pretty pissed off if you worked months on something only to have someone else take credit. I don't even care about shekels, but the name pisses me off. Case in point, Michelangelo's Pietà.
"One day Michelagnolo, entering the place where it was set up, found there a great number of strangers from Lombardy, who were praising it highly, and one of them asked one of the others who had done it, and he answered, 'Our Gobbo from Milan.' Michelagnolo stood silent, but thought it something strange that his labors should be attributed to another; and one night he shut himself in there, and, having brought a little light and his chisels, carved his name upon it." —Giorgi Vasari
d195ff No.15128338
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>>15128332
I can't tell if you're walking into this intentionally, but these views can and must be held simultaneously to have a legitimate claim.
The internet can and should be the source of transparency for those who want it, and anonymity for those who don't.
697e9f No.15128354
>>15128332
The problem with his "point" is that it has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Taking credit for something you didn't make does not magically turn the duplication into stealing, the plagiarism itself is.
Same way piracy isn't illegal where I live, distribution of pirated content is. By his argument that'd mean piracy is illegal "in the right circumstances", but that's not the case as distribution is not piracy. The required "circumstances" are something being completely unrelated. Tying your shoelaces is not lethal just because you could tie a noose and hang yourself.
b41994 No.15128360
>>15128354
Yeah, I missed that in his statement.
>>15128338
What views? And the cartoons are annoying.
d195ff No.15128371
>>15128360
>Copying isn't theft.
>Credit is due.
You don't even have to watch the videos to figure out which views go hand in hand, but I'd probably get annoyed too if my nuanced take on treating piracy like theft could be declawed by a couple shitty cartoons intended primarily for children and tweens.
acdce2 No.15128372
Here's the thing. Whether it's "theft" or not, really shouldn't fucking matter to anyone here. I don't see why it matters.
The only questions that matter are "is the developer affected by it?" That's why they bitch, of course, they believe that they're losing out on money.
The simple point is this: not only has the EU done long extensive papers on how it doesn't affect sales, based on paper, but ask yourself this: if you couldn't pirate a game, would you have played it in the first place? I sure as fuck wouldn't have. Simple example, from the same company. Saw Mario Odyssey, it looked fun, I bought it and played it. Saw BotW, it looked like it could be fun but most likely was going to be boring, so I emulated it and it was exactly that. I wasn't going to get Zelda if the Wii U port wasn't available for emulation, simple as that, so they never lost out on a sale.
If we extend emulation to older games, then I found a fuck ton of great games through emulation. It's less common with new ones, of course, since you can download a console's entire rom pack in the time it takes to download modern bloatware, but it does happen.
d14d5f No.15128607
>>15124085
>How is duplicating something stealing?
Hey nigger I just stole your words what you gonna do about it? Better get some Denuvo on that shit
d14d5f No.15128612
>>15124142
8 out of how many in total? It's a meagre showing in any case.
00c609 No.15128633
697e9f No.15128635
>>15128607
Wouldn't that just be the /r9k/ bot?
d14d5f No.15128642
Theft implies something is lost, they're not losing a copy nor are they losing any money because I wouldn't be paying for their shit anyway. The retards who pay for games are more than footing the bill for their production, what I do with a copy is irrelevant to the makers profits. Ultimately Denuvo is pointless shittiness on the part of the devs their game IS going to be cracked open regardless of security, really every new iteration is just good practice for those inclined to crack it.
I wonder if the real thrust behind it is to curtail the Chinks making knockoffs of fucking everything by making stealing the code a little harder.
697e9f No.15128652
>>15128642
Reverse engineering compiled code is already retardedly hard, chinks just write their own shitty knockoff code. If they're going to steal anything, it'd be models and sounds, to alter them just enough to be a knockoff instead of stealing.
911e7b No.15129210
>voksi is 21 and can break the most sophisticated copy protection in the market
>I'm 25 and can't even cook
000000 No.15129874
>>15127726
This. Copyright itself is a cancer that must be purged.
>>15127753
But with with a hot and White girl. So it is better.
>>15128169
It doesn't. And when the creator is a marxist or a jew, it is even pleasant to do so.
>>15128332
You would. that is why you must never turn into a greedy piece of shit or a subhuman leftist, so people won't take pleasure in taking things away from you.
>>15128372
But when piracy spreads and becomes known and easily accessible to normalfags, they will stop buying. And that is a good thing. And it is what companies fears most.
Spreading the custom of pirating everything to nromalfags must be the end goal. Companies that create shit or are run by leftists must have no money at all from customers.
>>15129181
It never will. You have no power to stop it.
10839e No.15129883
>>15129181
Get a load of this goon. YOU WILL NEVER GET THOSE 10BUX BACK!
f77c5a No.15130040
>>15126747
>was merely pretending to be retarded
Can you "pretend" to kill yourself as well?
>>15127726
We should still be an agrarian society. Jefferson was right.
>>15127164
>IGG games
Actually prefered this method of piracy before they got caught putting miners on their downloads, are there any alternatives to their site that use the same methods, or should I just go back to torrenting and the pirate bay.
1373ec No.15130057
Is Throne of Britannia cracked yet?
820fa7 No.15130094
>>15127726
>Scientific progress hold up is caused by copyright gating the free flow of information for the sake of the jew.
That's exactly what I was thinking recently. It's pretty much impossible to do hobbyist scientific research, because a huge portion of the journals and data are locked up behind unaffordable paywalls or just not released to the public at all.
39a8c8 No.15130139
>>15130094
CORN! CORN!!!!!!!!!
b4b3a6 No.15130214
>>15130040
>Can you "pretend" to kill yourself as well?
Cool your jets, dudemanbro
f77c5a No.15130330
>>15130214
Japanese Garfield posting doesn't help your case.
1837d0 No.15130545
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>>15125220
Why should they fix their games when PC Indentured Servant Race will do it for them via modding?
e8e7ca No.15130705
>>15128332
It's shit like asset flips, recolor OCs, and other blatant ripoffs that they're talking about - they're all copies, although slightly modified to differentiate it from the original.
00310b No.15130751
>>15130545
>wearing shades
>indoors
A split second in and I just know this guy's the god-king of colossal faggots.
000000 No.15130870
>>15130751
Faggots have no gods. All gods hate faggots.
0348a7 No.15130952
>>15130870
Slaanesh disagrees.
d1576f No.15131101
>>15128000
Yes it varies depending of the number of jumps, the site traffic, etc.. But still, it's pretty fast. The main problem imo is The Biggest city of my state, Sao Paulo, I live on a small town in the state of Sao Paulo, there it tends to lag, probably infraestructure issues, but not in this particular example but when it does, it is usually there.
c211a9 No.15131200
>>15124131
>Sonic Mania
>Resident Evil 7
>NieR: Automata
Cuckchan-tier taste.
43d94f No.15131263
>>15130545
>Consolefaggot butthurt about the truth
Your copy protection box is more irrelevant than ever and publishers make more money out of paid online, third party licenses and microtransactions than actual physical games which need 100 updates to even work correctly on those locked down PCs.
I'll have alll my files sitting on an 8TB HDD to run at will while you stream your PS2 games and play modern games at blurryshit res and garbage framerates.
f596d2 No.15131323
Good, you faggots are fucking thieves. Hope you all go to prison. Get a job and buy the games you want to play like the rest of us.
f596d2 No.15131346
>>15131331
So if a nigger goes to your house and steals your shit its fine because he's a pirate who's fighting for the people. You're a kike for wanting to protect your stuff and not wanting to share with the rest of the world for free.
54108d No.15131369
>>15131346
But what if the nigger just scanned all my stuff with a 3D laser scanner, then 3D printed at home with his wakandan future tech and I never ever knew he broke in?
8e24cd No.15131423
>>15131346
>You wouldn't download a car
fced44 No.15131439
>>15131346
l
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>>15131327
>>15131287
000000 No.15131537
>>15131323
No. We will keep getting them all for free and never being arrested for it.
>>15131346
Stay mad, impotent corporate shill. There is nothing wrong in stealing from corporations and jews.
2c1847 No.15132000
>>15127966
there was a first? never knew about that. i only heard it was some drakengard spinoff
2c1847 No.15132029
>>15127753
meme-tier to me would be a little lip-service to a genre without actually delving into it at all, and only for the 3 seconds work of recognition value before you go back to the usual thing. But you can tell they put effort in to reward you for exploring and fleshing out areas, giving dialogue to npcs off the beaten path as well as rewarding you for talking to everyone. It's a nice to settle in and be able to scratch multiple itches in one game. the music is just the icing on the cake.
037e5e No.15132165
>>15125187
But that's retarded, anon, because it's illegal in the United States to bypass copy protection or other access control schemes and has been ever since the Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1996.
Stop spreading lies. DRM is perfectly legal in the US, companies are perfectly within their rights to sell you keys that they can revoke at any time if you violate their terms of service.
1fe324 No.15132237
How long did this iteration last?
0fba43 No.15133040
>>15132165
>keys
Stop buying digital products or anything that needs online activation you ninny.
3208e3 No.15133396
>>15133040
I don't play console games you fucking plebian.
09901d No.15133541
>>15124228
What movie is that?
000000 No.15135963
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>>15131729
YES
>using Windows 10
….
Voksi, mang, I can forgive (((jewtube))), but you are asking Microsoft to report you straight to ICR.
000000 No.15136422
>>15132165
Even more reason to end copyright completely.
61e541 No.15136450
>>15124767
I design software for a living and I also pirate games. What up.
15e028 No.15136515
>>15125710
>le tidepod meme. FUCK off Boomer.
15e028 No.15136523
>>15125710
I personally think that gaming died in 2013 because that year was the start of Marxism and the BLM movement.
037e5e No.15136525
>>15136422
But anon, we're not a communist nation, we don't simply take the labor of others as our own because we're not entitled to the labor of others.
If you don't mind being a communist, by all means continue to simply appropriate the works of others, but do understand that means you are communist scum that will inevitably be removed like the cancer you are.
Now, I don't mind expanding fair use, I think it's entirely fair for Japs to have their content copied and fanlated since they outright refuse to sell us uncensored and properly translated content and so I don't particularly give a fuck about what they want, I give a fuck about what I want.
15e028 No.15136531
>>15136525
This is why we did National Socialism. Best form of government ever.
5cd508 No.15136545
>>15136531
>censorship
>effectively convincing your population that being overworked worse than a japanese salary man is good and should be strived for under guise of group belonging and self improvement
>circlejerking around a dictator whose clique has immense power to the point of states existing within states
>establishing minimal prices for common items, thus killing economy of lesser habitable areas or areas with less resources due to lack of profits
That's not the best form of government. That's just socialism lite with nationalist undertones. It will kill your people's soul and leave economy destitute.
037e5e No.15136556
>>15136531
If you mean "objectively one of the worst failures of a government of all history," then yes, it was the best form of government ever. Let's not forget they couldn't even take out the Russians because they were too incompetent and poor to actually build and maintain and defend railways to send supplies to their troops *and* they thought the Enigma machines were of literally any use at all despite the first principle of encryption being "The algorithm is not and cannot be secret, it will be reverse engineered, the encryption has to be feasibly unable to be beaten even if the entire world knows the process or it's the same as not using it in the first place."
037e5e No.15136564
>>15136556
Fuckin' hell, they printed their passwords and delivered them to officers in organized notebooks so that any pleb that knew German could just use the password and crack the encryption even without UK computers.
504862 No.15136568
>>15136564
What are the chances of a pleb getting one of those books?
Remember, they didn't have big brother watching every square milimeter.
037e5e No.15136577
>>15136568
Very high, given that's often how Allied powers countered the Germans.
The officers had these books, it wasn't hard to raid a camp and take them. That's what made the Enigma machines extra retarded - not only were they fundamentally insecure and crackable, the Germans didn't understand a fucking thing about information security so the Allied Forces often didn't even need to bother running their fancy encryption cracking computers since the Germans carried the keys on them or left them in their tents.
f77c5a No.15136582
>>15136523
>start of Marxism in gaming
>2013
Oh Anon…
>>15136545
>knowing nothing about natsoc
>tells such brazen fucking lies when germany was the first country in europe to implement 40 hour work weeks and idolized Henry Ford who was one of the best industrialists in american history
Kike.
>>15136556
>>15136564
Not relevant to the system of government, just someone playing Captain Hindsight again. Ignorant newfags need to lurk.
037e5e No.15136606
>>15136582
Make whatever excuses you like, the Allies weren't so retarded as to be basically complete amateurs at intelligence and counter-intelligence. Of course the Allies would win.
The Germans also had their factories working as hard as possible while not really maintaining any of the machines so they were always living on borrowed time and their economy was only ever as good as the infrastructure in the most recently conquered territory since they kept ruining all the infrastructure and the market was too controlled for businesses to survive for long. It's the inevitable problem with socialism - a controlled market does not respond to market forces quickly enough (if at all) and businrsses are too regulated to allow business to occur except through nepotism and corruption.
5cd508 No.15136621
>>15136582
>focusing on a single point
>refusing to acknowledge huge censorship under nazi rule
Okay. Let's do it your way then.
<40 hour work weeks
Okay that's cool. What about going to various local rallies or belonging to social groups throwing drills like Hitlerjugend in case of kids? What about KdF? DAF? You think not attending meetings or going on vacations organized by those would be voluntary? It would be as voluntary as not going to rallies in Best Korea. This means you'd be fined or face social retribution directly or indirectly down the line. Don't kid yourself that a highly militaristic and socialist government would value freedom of an individual.
f77c5a No.15136641
>>15136606
No, no, no. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, you haven't actually looked into what the ideology stands for or their economic polices, you unironically think it's some brand of marxist socialism when National Socialism is it's own entire take on "socialism" based around a totally different non-gibs mindset, essentially it means society. NatSocs respect firearms, private property, hate welfare, and debt enslavement. Read Gottfried Feder, or actually read Mein Kampf instead of what others tell you about these things on TV or your made up assumptions in your pretentious fucking skull.
>The Germans also had their factories working as hard as possible
Unlike Allied production, German production wasn't at max until near the end of the war in 1944 because they didn't want the war and were not prepared for it since their military size and development was hindered by the Treaty of Versailles.
>and their economy was only ever as good as the infrastructure in the most recently conquered territory
Factually incorrect it was better than most of Europe, whereas to explain your other retarded post about railroads, in the Soviet Union they were insanely outdated. The old Russian rail system didn't match the rest of Europe whatsoever, so the Germans had to dismantle it and rebuild all of it to run their trains on it. This is in addition to already being massively overstretched in yet another situation they were forced into. Don't argue with me on this shit either until you've read Viktor Surovov's 'Icebreaker' or 'Exposing Stalin's Plan to Conquer Europe' in which this former Soviet/Russian historian exposes the truth behind Operation Barbarossa after lying to his superiors to gain access to classified documents.
>and businesses are too regulated to allow business to occur except through nepotism and corruption
You are, as mentioned earlier, falsely applying how Marxist Socialism worked, to Germany at the time. Also could ironically enough be describing jewish capitalism with that corruption and nepotism bit.
>>15136621
>huge censorship
Oh no, degenerate pornography and Marxist literature weren't promoted in Germany. Still hardly ever lied to their people compared to today's governments.
>kids joining the german equivalent of the boy scouts is bad
>groups who promote the ideology and good work ethic are bad
Wew lad, Germans were so oppressed that the government subsidized vacations to foreign countries on new luxury cruise liners. They were so oppressed that it no longer took two wheel barrels to buy a loaf of bread, they were so oppressed that they had a better work scheduled than the "free" British citizens, so oppresed that loans were practically interest free and easy to pay off, so oppressed that policy favored small farmers over monopolies, so oppressed that they build hundreds of thousands of new homes for workers and farmers with decent living accomidations that were actually fucking affordable.
TOTALLY LIKE NORTH KOREA!
Filtered kike.
97088c No.15136679
>>15124225
Shill we've been hitting for quite a while "diminishing returns" (this and hard material limits are what has slowed down Moore's law) territory on tech.
The hardware out there is more than powerful enough to play any game made now or into the future.
Noone needs more powerful hardware and what we see now is meme tech with 200 cores that the diversity hires have no way of figuring out how to code for anyway, hell they can't program for what we've got now since you "need" that 200 core memetech that runs worse than a Commodore 64.
0a80f5 No.15136733
>>15125220
It's basically fixed for AMD, and runs well enough that there's little microstutter. Had to wait about a year after release before I said "fuck it" and gave it a chance, it worked.
Compared to MGR, at least it has a lot more graphics options to play with, but if AMD's going to be blamed every time the game is bugged instead of Platinum, Platinum should invest in more varied test rigs.
acba8f No.15136766
>>15136641
>this is video games
b0d6bd No.15136782
>>15136523
King nigger passed a law back in 2013 allowing the government to use propaganda on its own people, that's why all that shit started coincidentally that year.
b0d6bd No.15136783
>>15136782
I misspelled that, KANG nigger.
000000 No.15136828
>>15136525
Capitalism can exist without corporations, corporate shill. Stealing from corporations is never wrong. The wrong thing is to have corporate suits dictating the market instead of the customers dictating it. Those that work for said corporations deserve no compensation at all.
>>15136556
Try harder, deformed kike. The lies are as big as you nose.
2923a6 No.15136939
>>15127530
nyaa.si
720-2160p quality is worth the 5 mins of waiting.
066d02 No.15136943
>>15136782
>(((coincidentally)))
4f4099 No.15137027
>>15125710
>that careful balance between buzzwords used on /v/ and on other sites, /v/ is one person/hivemind meme and no true Scotsman fallacy
I r8 this b8 8/8
ab84e7 No.15137167
>>15125710
As a proud channer, I approve of this post.
97f50c No.15137237
>>15136939
>using the cartel site
Anidex or pantsu faggot.
Better yet, get it directly from the subbers instead of being a middleman cuck.
b44d48 No.15137256
>>15130330
>posting things that make me mad isn't helping your case that you're trolling
wow
0aaed7 No.15137319
>Voksi-sama please violate my copyrights! aahh~n
denuvo a slut
c1f08a No.15137329
>>15137319
>try and crack this
BRRRAAAAPPPP
0aaed7 No.15137352
>>15137329
I won't let you copyright mafia goons take onii-chan away from me.
037e5e No.15137415
>>15136641
>didn't want the war
>literally started invading nations
>including Russia who they had a non-aggression pact with
Sure bud.
There was no such thing as private property. It was a socialist government you nigger, the government owned all businesses.
I take it you've never read Vampire Economy?
57ffc7 No.15137933
>>15137415
>literally started invading nations
Actually, they only "invaded" poland because they were genociding germans in there. This caused everyone else to declare war on Germany, since they were already waiting for an excuse anyway because bad bad germoney had circumvented their sanctions from the previous war, and were th only country not being shat on by a depression.
>including Russia
Stalin was a literally insane time bomb, Hitler rightfully didn't trust him and decided to strike first.
It seems all your information is based on speeches made after the war already started and the usual lies, instead of ones before then and the inconvenient facts kept hush hush (((for some reason))).
>It was a socialist government
National socialism has very little to do with socialism aside from the name, I take it you've never read a non-leftist-propaganda book?
f77c5a No.15139291
>>15136766
I probably should have politely saged in hindsight, but it was late and I was tired. This is however just a brief offshoot so don't come bitching to me unless it totally derails the thread in which case I'd gladly stop asap.
>>15137415
>muh non-aggression pact
Oh yeah because Stalin was totally gonna honor that. Also it's called the Soviet Union or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not Russia which is just one fucking "Socialist Republic" in the union. I already provided you evidence of a Russian BTFOing your narrative already with insider information.
>There was no such thing as private property. It was a socialist government you nigger, the government owned all businesses.
>have you read this propaganda written by a leftist faggot who unironically liked weimar germany and leftist intelligentsia?
Wrong, that is a blatant lie. Same government completely deregulated private fire arms dealership in 1938.
>>>/reddit/
f01556 No.15150135
>>15124734
It pleases shareholders.
b055f9 No.15150422
>>15124181
Can we stop pretending like these people aren't shills? Shills are everywhere. If full/v/ has shills you can bet steam does.
7f6c62 No.15152133
>>15150422
>if full/v/ has shills
enthusiasts are not shills, you and a host of other retards dont know what shill means. shill implies incentive, like money, not anyone who talks about something new. you do not understand the purpose of INTEREST boards
5839c9 No.15153305
>>15152133
>a bunch of inorganic posts defending intrusive garbage even redditors bitch about when doing a quick search is totally enthusiasts!
>fucking drm software enthusiasts
They call those Denuvo employees Anon.
56f767 No.15153448
>>15152133
Who the fuck is an enthusiast of Denuvo?
5ea35d No.15153798
>>15153448
Its employees while they're on the clock
a47c38 No.15153829
>>15124071
the rumor is
even the game needs top notch graphic cards and shit from a high end pc, the crack runs on max settings on a old GTX600 with just one 1gig.
seems denuvo took a big hit on the perfomence too.
a47c38 No.15153835
>>15124078
>study finds piracy doesn’t hurt game sales
https://archive.is/ZXePw
85adee No.15154153
>>15137933
But there is still a fundamental difference between socialism and communism, isn't there? Outside of one being invented and used mostly by jaffaboys and all the rest.
Don't forget that the greatest redpill was the 1919 attempted communist coup de ta in Berlin, eerily similar to the Russian one. They failed to overtake Europe once, so they wanted to try another go by invading from Russia.
85adee No.15158420
>mfw I manage to crack my own games half the time and to bypass any retarded viruses/crypto miners in skeevy cracks (including IGG's) using uniextract, a hex editor and a 10 and a half foot virtual pole
af0101 No.15158766
>>15152133
t. Denuvo employee
9a48dd No.15159089
>>15152133
All (((enthusiasts))) of current games and services are shills.
56f767 No.15159502
>>15137371
That sound is from another video, but fuck that webm always gets a laugh out of me.
a61c8f No.15159508
>>15159021
>playing doubles advocate
<being off by one
39f317 No.15159547
>>15124097
Guess what's gotten cracked.
000000 No.15170562
>>15158420
Ya got notes to share, senpai?
I'm trying to learn both Denuvo cracking:
https://invidio.us/watch?v=Ka_PudOvWpI
And PS3 ISO cracking, to have my fightfu in IKEMEN go: >>15166104
c7fc78 No.15170583
>>15124085
It's a lost sale. You could have the same argument with stealing a physical *copy* of the game.
>"I-It's just a copy why are you mad xd"
748281 No.15170586
>>15124085
>le how is duplicating something stealing something
You don't buy it, therefore you do not create incentive for publishers or creator's handlers to employ the creators for more. It's cancerous as fuck.
2418b2 No.15170644
>>15170583
>>15170586
I was never going to buy it in the first place, both because of straight up not being able to afford it and because I don't want to support cancerous devs/publishes/etc.
So piracy is not a lost sale.
a413bc No.15171249
>>15124767
you should know better than to come here and argue against piracy
f01556 No.15180613
>>15171249
He's probably getting paid for it.
30c15f No.15180671
No games that have been released in the last decade are worth buying.
bb3976 No.15180686
>>15171249
Damn that second one made me laugh.
000000 No.15180733
>>15124131
Sorry, I legit don't give a shit about any of those games.
bbaf41 No.15180801
>>15124267
Public utility is exactly what the ISP's want you fucking socialist.
The reason they are able to hedge territories with no competition is because of the enormous amount of regulations they lobby to be put in place for ISP companyies.
To them ISP regulation laws are like a small slap on the wrist. To upstart ISP's they are an instant deal breaker.
They love to co-op "We want faster internet!" movements this way as well, placing it all under the Congressionally friendly banner of "regulations to improve the internet".
In Mid-state Alabama you can easily get reliable +20mb/s speeds if you have the dosh. This is because AL government doesn't give a fuck about ISP regulations and technicians are out here to make money, competing to do so.
In Atlanta Faglanta if you live in the zones where jewgle laid out its fiber the competing speeds are magically similar: +20mb/s for comcast.
Move 8 blocks to a neighborhood with no fiber in Atlanta and suddenly your at 5mb/s like: >>15124152
Part of the low speeds in cities is urban user density congesting bandwidth, but considering how much money those fuckers make off Urban users they should have enough bandwidth to stream every digit of PI in 4k by now.
The real reason is they have no C O M P E T I T I O N and lobby to set up "regulations" to keep that from happening.
Also when I say +20mb/s I'm talking about the real speeds people have to deal with.
Not the fake shit they put out there to pad the numbers (pic related). My real speeds are 15mb/s so this site's results are just laughable.
It's still far and away a better speed than most burgers would have.
And I live in what most (((people))) in the Country consider a backwater state.
>>15127487
Ping is meaningless unless your working with dynamic data that requires low output latency (like Vidya multiplayer or streaming something live).
The download and upload speed on that test is probably fake news.
The most accurate way to test your isp's bandwidth is to actually download something and do the math yourself.
Rather than using click-baity "speed test" sites.
c805fd No.15180886
>>15124131
You don't ever defend games on /v/ unless it's Doom. You really don't want an avalanche of cringey and edgy posters trying to be le cool guy for not liking game.
000000 No.15181003
>>15180801
>(((they))) lobby shit in my corrupt shithole therefore any government is invalid
But that's just because you have that kind of government you shill for. :^)
d7a5c3 No.15181031
>>15180801
>they should have enough bandwidth to stream every digit of PI in 4k by now.
That… that is not how Pi works.
40e43e No.15181041
>>15181031
Graduate high school and then try again
bb3976 No.15181054
>>15181041
/tech/ here just to say you're full of shit.
9e3d80 No.15181360
>>15124267
>And this is why internet should just be a public utility.
Except then the problem of "collecting subsidies to never improve infrastructure" would just be amplified, you dumb nigger
40e43e No.15181387
>>15181054
/fringe/ here to put a diaper on your head cause you're talking shit
8a78b3 No.15181396
>>15181387
you should put some diapers on star trek characters t b h
9e3d80 No.15181429
>>15171249
>screencapping your own posts
000000 No.15181485
May that the Denuvo thread that the volunteers fucked with, deleted and banned people in it for calling them fags, rest in peace.
https://archive.fo/6I9R6 - archive of it around 20 posts before it got purged
9a48dd No.15181516
>>15170583
Stealing from corporations is a good thing. It is never wrong.
>>15170586
They turn into leftist propagandists, so it is ok to never give them money anyway. Their "production" are the cancer.
ec0aef No.15181586
>>15180801
It gets even better when you have communities trying to set up their own coop broadband systems only for the government to step in and tell them it's not allowed. Because Comcast or whoever are upset they might have to compete with small mom+pop ISPs.
bbaf41 No.15181745
>>15181031
It was a figure of speech to show how their capabilities should be far greater than what they claim as their limit.
Don't worry, I wrote it knowing that 4k resolutions are inapplicable to Pi.
Apologies.
158898 No.15184972
>>15171249
That AGDG pic at the end pisses me off. I'm an amateur game dev and seeing people play my games and derive happiness out of it is the real reward. I have games available for sale in places, and ever so often, I get a few bucks, sometimes ten, sometimes a hundred. None of that compares to the emails I get from people saying they loved my game. They got their kid to play it, and now they're hooked. I sometimes get emails from someone clearly too young to be emailing asking for help with a puzzle.
But I also get pirates asking for help with bugs. They try and act coy and pretend they're just using an outdated version, but eventually I get them. They act all apologetic, I'll refer them to a more updated version where the bug was fixed.
I literally do not care about piracy. Sure, I don't make a lot of money off my games, and I probably won't make as many sales as I would've normally. But if I'm selling a 60 dollar game, and sell 200000 copies I'm rich beyond my wildest dreams. "Oh no, Pirates showed off my shitty gameplay and now nobody wants to buy it, now I won't make 200k a day. Noooo"
Anyho, fuck Denuvo and anyone that defends it.