c19a03 No.15112349
I've been ruminating on the concept of "incomplete" games. The MGSV Chapter 3 debacle, Skullgirls never delivering on its Canon Story Mode because the characters required didn't win the DLC polls, that sort of thing. What other kinds of games out there have you played that ended up promising things that didn't pan out, /v/? I find it interesting to learn why devs end up dropping things.
500070 No.15112367
Want to broaden it to games that anticipated either making their "competition" DLC related, or as massive sequel hooks, and may or may not have gotten said wrap up?
500070 No.15112374
>>15112367
>competition
Meant "completion." Keep forgetting the computer I'm borrowing has auto correct on.
c19a03 No.15112385
>>15112367
I don't see why not. A cliffhanger that never gets resolved would sounds incomplete to me. A game that anticipated it'd be successful enough that it would play the jewish DLC waiting game before failing and getting the plug pulled would also count.
6924e7 No.15112426
f83f4c No.15112480
Sometimes I can smell blood when I think about what could've been
500070 No.15112502
>>15112385
Crimson Gem Saga is kind of my go-to for such. The game ends with so fucking many questions left unanswered, and on a rather downer note at that. A few at least have their answers in a prior game that wasn't especially well received or well translated (Astonishia Story), but with the rest it seemed like the devs were deadset on a sequel to be able to wrap it up. And I'm not talking "loose ends", I mean the entire fucking conclusion feels more like a halfway point despite the player being max level or close to it by the end, and without the intentional "episodic" episodic excuse something like .hack would use. To this day, it never got a sequel, and left a bad experience with KRPGs in my mouth. Not good when a game winds up ending as a massive Frodo moment and makes the player wonder why they bothered putting however many hours into it for that sort of pay off. Good character art and spriting though.
Gravity Rush might also count, albeit more minority. First game ends with more questions asked than answered, and while apparently development on GR2 started shortly after the first game was finished, it still took about four and a half years for the sequel to get out, and with the way Sony had been handling the Vita, at least out here, it wouldn't shock me if a number of fans lost hope along the way. Not sure if SCEJ intentionally had Japan Studio leave things hanging with the first as sequel bait, or if Vita cartridge size limitations might have been more to blame (4GB seems the default, but I hear larger sized carts exist; would have to double check file sizes). Both games are good at least, though. Can't say the same for CGS up there (which I was honestly liking it until it shat the bed so hard in Act IV that it soils the entire experience).
0ba437 No.15112534
Wind Waker is basically half a game stretched out, if it had gotten another year or so of development it might've actually been good.
>4 main dungeons, Forsaken Fortress is a mini dungeon that gets repeated
>final area is just a retread of the 4 main dungeons
>Hyrule was meant to be explorable and act as a 2nd overworld but was cut and changed into a straight linear path
The story would still have been bad but at the very least it would have felt like a complete Zelda
c039f2 No.15112547
c039f2 No.15112550
>>15112480
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
c7fc7d No.15112640
62d30d No.15112687
>>15112534
>game stretched out
My god, the hunting for the pieces of the triforce… at first, I thought the game was joking when it sent me out to find forty pieces and I had to pay that green bastard Tingle a fortune for
EVERY SINGLE MAP
6070bb No.15112756
Mafia 2 was fucking butchered in the year or so leading up to it's release and a shit ton of features were cut. Originally it would have been a more open game with more breaks between the story, but since almost every piece of optional content was cut out they doubled down on making it more linear.
84adc0 No.15112803
>>15112534
>Hyrule was meant to be explorable and act as a 2nd overworld but was cut and changed into a straight linear path
Didn't know Hyrule was going to be an actual second overworld, that sounds amazing. Could you imagine if there were still people living there or stuck in time, so that Ganondorf had more weight to his motivation? Or if you had to choose whether to save the old Hyrule or the new one? I remember an interview with someone that worked on it mentioning they ended up scrapping the planned out dungeons for future Zelda games (Twilight Princess' water temple was the one in question iirc).
0ba437 No.15112862
>>15112803
Tower of the Gods was originally going to be larger, and a lot of its elements were reused/reintroduced for the Temple of Time dungeon in TP
809cd3 No.15112899
>>15112349
>Skullgirls never delivering on its Canon Story Mode because the characters required didn't win the DLC polls
I would like to know more.
5a0a81 No.15112926
>>15112480
is this the new battlefield game?
ffb63b No.15112952
>>15112534
Let us not forget that there were to be two more major dungeons, with their locations finishing a triforce design on the sea map. These are but a handful of the reasons I won't pay for Nintendo products ever again.
This thread is not good for the heart.
771514 No.15113194
520e03 No.15113218
>>15112480
try a whole game been cut for no reason
9319ba No.15113235
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15113218
I really fucking hate Blizztard for killing two studios for this shit.
ef6d08 No.15113238
>>15112355
>meanwhile, the EA C&C games don't even try to implement any of those features
9319ba No.15113242
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15113238
They took a Gook Studio's game and plastered it with Kane, and called it C&C4, even the studio or what's left of it just used more greenscreens and filmed outside of their fucking office to make the live-action cutscenes.
2b8718 No.15113265
>>15112349
>Skullgirls never delivering on its Canon Story Mode because the characters required didn't win the DLC polls
explain further.
92fea3 No.15113290
>Skullgirls never delivering on its Canon Story Mode because the characters required didn't win the DLC polls
It was the dark work of faggots and imbeciles like Kike Z that made it so that this never happened. And poor Ahad is too polite to speak up about it because he's just happy that his game got made, which is how we ended up with a fucking retarded poll for characters instead of the ones that were supposed to be there.
Skullgirls is a complete trainwreck and Zaimont is to blame for all of it.
92fea3 No.15113298
>>15113265
It's simple. Ahad had an initial roster of characters that he had planned to do when he designed the game, and they were going to do the last two characters to give it a canon story (Umbrella and Marie), but Kike Z decided at the last minute he wanted to put the last two characters to a character ballot instead, and the winners ended up being some gay wrestler and an egyptian thot who fights by making stuff out of her period blood.
520e03 No.15113311
>>15113290
>>15113298
is this ducker is what you anons talking about?
641472 No.15113324
>>15112899
There over 33 characters planned in total and the main characters that would've revealed the main plot were black dahlia, marie, and umbrella. There were only five characters that could've been funded as a result of their indiegogo campaign meeting more then three times the demand that was initially requested.
Pic related are the characters that could've made the cut. Aeon and Venus never ever.
9739ff No.15113331
>>15112480
At least we have the PSP game.
92fea3 No.15113339
>>15113311
I'm the same Anon, and yes.
This ugly fucker is also him.
de31a1 No.15113364
>>15113324
Is this Skull Girls for ants?
98346e No.15113369
>>15112899
>>15113265
>due to gross incompetence on the part of everyone involved skullgirls looses its funding
>crowdfunds to finish the character they were working on and gets way more than they expected
>put the remaining characters to a vote, leading eliza, big band and beowolf, with the extra money left over + other investors funding two clone characters
>stopped working on the game, made a phone game and started on indivisible
>story will now never be complete because the characters relevant to the main story aren't being made (Dhalia, Marie who is a boss character currently)
>the story surrounding the skullheart wont be made either since Aeon, and Venus wont be made
Its a tad sad that if the skulgirls team wasn't living in commiefornia they could have made one more character out of the cost of living expenses
908d31 No.15113372
>>15113311 (checked)
>Battlefront II
Soy of a feather.
c19a03 No.15113401
>>15112899 (checked)
>>15113265
As covered by others in the thread, Skullgirls happened to lose its funding after the vanilla game went gold and had to rely on crowdfunding to finish the characters they were planning to add later. The developers went on record saying that three characters (Black Dahlia, Marie, and Umbrella) were required for the canon story mode to be made. Unfrotunately, they decided that instead of making these three immediately, they'd put who got in to a vote. What we got out of it were Big Band (who admittedly was kind of cool), Eliza (a character voted in for her unique gameplay mechanic WHICH THEY SCRAPPED MIDWAY IN and Beowulf (an otherwise unremarkable wrestler if it weren't for the fact he fought using a giant's dismembered arm).
If I recall in an old thread, supposedly the voting process was also tainted by one guy on the team saying that Beowulf (an otherwise unremarkable wrestler) was behind the Top 4 in terms of votes, which prompted anti-waifufags who didn't want a character such as Annie or Minette to bandwagon behind him for the sole purpose of spiting the waifufags.
5e3201 No.15113415
>>15113298
I have always wondered where this idea that Mike's code monkey ass has some sort of immense executive control for this kind of shit comes from. PR and organizing a crowdfunding campaign are things that are way the fuck out of his job description.
>>15113372
The original battlefront 2
98346e No.15113438
>>15113401
>If I recall in an old thread, supposedly the voting process was also tainted by one guy on the team saying that Beowulf (an otherwise unremarkable wrestler) was behind the Top 4 in terms of votes, which prompted anti-waifufags who didn't want a character such as Annie or Minette to bandwagon behind him for the sole purpose of spiting the waifufags.
I remember those times. the voting system was changed for the beo vote as well if i recall corectly.
678192 No.15113774
>>15113218
>try a whole game been cut for no reason
Sure, boyo
4712c4 No.15113796
>>15112534
The worst part is the remake, instead of finishing the fucking game they just released it in it's unfinished state a second time.
56879d No.15113820
The original pokemon crystal had online multiplayer battles using cell services. For a mere 10 cents a battle you could play or trade with anyone in japan. The localization replaced the battle tower with NPCs for obvious reasons.
9d69c2 No.15113836
>>15113774
Man that looks like shit,it'd still probably be more detailed and polished then the actual game we got.
d5de8c No.15113859
>>15113836
Yeah, it was basically still in alpha when it got scrapped.
b9f2cf No.15113870
Any anons have the New Vegas Screencap Detailing cut conent regarding Caesar's Territory and how you can enter The Colorado?
e98325 No.15113929
>>15113238
Those features require both money and talent, and EA doesn't have the talent to make those features, as well as think it's not worth the monetary investment to make a return.
520e03 No.15114001
>>15113807
>>15112899
mind explaining? I'm deeply curious
c34aed No.15114030
>>15114001
The original game is just half a game, you play first half as Nero then you play the game backwards as Dante. The special edition re-release added a Trish, Mary and Vergil to play as, and some new modes, but left the original campaign untouched, so you'll play the same stages a total of 6 times, if you want to play and finish all the characters.
7d868f No.15114034
>>15113796
Same shit with the Dark Souls remake
>It's known the last areas of the game were rushed
>Things like Lost Izalith, where they copy-pasted multiple lower-body parts of another monster as a brand new enemy
>A fucking boss so bad that even the dev team apologized for it
>It still is in the game without any modifications
<B-but we didn't have any m-money left to fix it
>And how about now that your franchise has achieved meme status?
<Fuck you, have dsfix and a silly shader, that will be 40€
Also add the rampant hackers that plagued the release of the first game at launch exploiting the same shit they did back then.
I hate this shit
c34aed No.15114043
>>15114034
Don't forget it actually made the game worse, from what I saw it ruined the lightning, made some dark areas too bright and some light ares too dark, and other shit like replacing the fire effects.
It was just a shitty cash grab, and it shows in like the first minute of the game they fucked up.
At least I now have and additional test to know if someones opinions are shit.
e3df3a No.15114053
>>15114034
>Shadow of the Colossus actually got a remake
<didn't add cut colossi
<didn't add cut areas
<didn't flesh out existing areas that had more planned
<Hurr durr here's the better graphics everyone* wanted!
*Disclaimer: everyone means no one.
0bc4f3 No.15114280
>>15113796
It's actually even shorter because they mercifully streamlined some things.
0d1832 No.15114287
>>15114053
>remake a thing to be exactly like the original thing because that's what a remake is
>dude why didn't they add anything?
Why are you upset about this? Are you ESL and don't know what a remake is?
b4010c No.15114333
>>15112349
>Skullgirls never delivering on its Canon Story Mode because the characters required didn't win the DLC polls
What an ass-backwards way to develop a game. If the characters were so important, they should have been part of the plan, not an option.
e3df3a No.15114469
>>15114287
Here come the shills. Ever play Resident Evil? Of course you haven't because you've bought into the publisher dicksucking view of thinking it's okay to sell you the same fucking game once- twice- no THREE TIMES and you should be grateful for it.
God forbid someone asks for a little more meat on his soulless cashgrabs.
561dd9 No.15114893
>>15112349
that's just the cut content you saw. there's always mountains of shit left on the cutting room floor of every game because the whole development of a game is a series of compromises and cuts either to make it work or get it out on time
35d572 No.15115080
>Splatterhouse 2010
I couldn't even fucking begin to tell you what was lopped off. A fair potion was from when the original studio was working on it, but even the in-house development ended up lopping off several chapters and bosses (one was re-used to scare the player in the middle of a stage leading up to another boss).
https://tcrf.net/Splatterhouse_(2010)
35d572 No.15115110
>>15113324
>saving a thumbnail
retard
e49dc2 No.15115135
>>15114287
Shadow of the colossus is infamous for its cut content. They planned much, much more than was eventually released. So no, "be exactly like the original" is not the praise you think it is. It's just a cashgrab wasting of potential under the guise of fidelity.
7d868f No.15115141
>>15114469
I love these shills
>Huh, remakes are just graphical overhauls, why are you complaining?
<They changed the controls/gameplay on the new RE remake like the fixed camera? So what? It's a remake, deal with it
c19a03 No.15116450
>>15115110
>>15113364
I actually googled it. That thumbnail's the biggest group picture, straight from the Skullgirls wiki.
http://skullgirls.wikia.com/wiki/File:DLC_Lineup_Uncovered02.png
92fea3 No.15116575
>>15116450
>>15113401
>>15114333
>Never getting a canon story mode
>Never getting rid of Kike Z
>Never getting Filia turning into a giantess and eating Mike Z and they find someone actually talented to replace him
db8248 No.15116593
>>15115135
You're not showing off anything interesting. You seem to think it would be an easy process to "just add" these colossi and think they wouldn't alter the game and its pacing in dramatic ways, adding more content but not having it be anything meaningful. I've never seen a good argument why SotC remake "needed" the cut Colossi added. I think the best thing that could be asked is an in-game gallery/museum showing off all the cut content sort of like how the earlier Ratchet and Clank games did. The cut colossi are interesting, especially those cut near the end - but these colossi are incomplete and failure to understand why the game had them cut at all to me is basically exclaiming you totally missed the point of the game.
>>15115141
I love these retards,
>wtf why did they remake this game exactly 1:1 so much so it literally emulates the game for logic just tweaked to run at higher framerates btw wheres muh cut content
>wtf why did they change anything in the remake??? I didn't want this
learn to judge things for what they are, not what they aren't you petulant child.
68c6b8 No.15116595
>fans enjoying game
>toby gets pissy that someone datamined his game
>cancels any further development within the first week of released
What else had devs sperg out over their games getting data-mined? Most recent one I could think of was Binding of Isaac.
cb970e No.15116607
>>15116595
Sakurai over people data-mining Brawl's cutscenes day 1
56879d No.15116757
>>15116593
Hey, shill. Do you know how I know you aren't from around here?
db8248 No.15116788
>>15116757
Hey faggot, kill yourself.
62d30d No.15116793
>>15116757
Because he put effort and reasoning into his post, unlike the average summerfag?
de31a1 No.15116798
>>15116450
Granted it's still hard to make out details, the full size image is 600x791 not 220x290. It even says so in your link.
a6f8bf No.15116817
>>15116798
>That genderswapped Heart Aino
92fea3 No.15116821
>>15116798
A lot of these designs are pure garbage.
And it's too bad that one of the most garbage ones was the winner.
f9b177 No.15116885
>>15113401
Making the game just to pander waifufags was a mistake to begin with.
92fea3 No.15116897
>>15116885
No, designing characters to pander to anybody EXCEPT waifufags was the mistake. That's how we ended up with trash like Gayowulf and Big Black.
f9b177 No.15117001
>>15116595
You forgot:
>Toby might as well port his shitty game into consoles for a quick buck
>Just like Cave Story
>>15116897
I almost forgot their controversial scrapped animation, designing the girls with skanky outfits just to get censored specially when they hired zap artists, coincidentally Mike Z got his ego inflated like a hot balloon.
Nice porn though.
520e03 No.15121231
56879d No.15123166
Incomplete games: Literally everything on agdg not made by a redditer
7bec37 No.15123750
91de65 No.15123831
A large chunk of story mode in GTA V was cut. Unused files as well as more files from a prototype of the game show a whole cut heist (The Sharmoota Job) as well as a series of other missions (a bunch of hood missions, a mission where you steal a Hydra like in SA and the online heists, etc.). This explains some oddities like the aforementioned hood section being so short - the original story had it longer and the transition with Franklin moving from the ghetto to his fancy house was smoother rather than abrupt. Mind you, I still believe the game would've been as bad as it is now if it still had the same physics, driving, gunplay, car choices (few "normal" cars to fill the regular traffic, mostly luxury and sport cars that you don't see normally in the game) et al but the whole thing could've been different.
41510e No.15123863
>>15113218
Nothing of value was lost.
35d572 No.15123910
>>15116607
>>15116595
>Sakurai gets assblasted about the cinematics in brawl getting onto the net
>decides to save the efforts of the cinematics for character reveals
I honestly prefer it that way, but yes, it's a result of a dev getting pissy.
fc8328 No.15123926
>>15115135
Cutting content isn't always a bad thing. A games pacing can drag a game out to be way way longer than it needs to be and then you burn out and have to slog through it to finish it up. SOTC is just long enough before it starts to get repetitive. If you added that many more bosses you would need to add at least 2 more mechanics and if you go 48 then you need to add at least 5. The basic gameplay just isn't enough to sustain that much content, it doesn't have the depth for it.
d223cf No.15124433
>>15116798
Really does burn my ass how thry said THESE CHARACTERS NEED TO WIN SO YOU GET THE FULL STORY but then didnt add them and left it to chance. Only good thing out of that would be how Waifufags crashed and burned with Feng losing and all the salt that followed.
62d30d No.15124457
>>15116798
>>15124433
I don't buy how they claimed they don't have the resources to make all characters given how popular Skullgirls is among the hundreds of 2d fighters that don't get half as much attention.
7b3a73 No.15124563
>>15112349
Everything that got cut from MGSV made it better. The amount of bullshit Kojima was working on is astounding, you should be grateful that the series didn't end with Big Boss shooting Liquid as a child.
And chapter 3 is literally just a meaningless placard: if chapter 2 is just new game plus, what would 3 be? A popup after you get the true ending, that would annoy people to hell and back since the content is actually over. All this crap against the game is just contrarianism to damage a japanese production.
7d4111 No.15124631
I don't know if this counts, but Yakuza 3 being ported to the West with a ton of cut content to "appeal to a western audience", and some fags on Gamespot praising it.
Secret of Mana SNES CD version, before it got moved to cartridge perhaps might be another example, although I can't remember what got removed to fit the game on a cartridge.
Chrono Cross not being more faithful to Radical Dreamers. I wanted Magus in disguise in my party.
4c54a2 No.15126755
>>15124631
Chrono Cross, as it is, is a fucking insult to Trigger. Trigger is a nearly perfect package, with a nice simple narrative that hits every beat it has to. Cross, on the other hand, spends hours navel gazing and ruminating on nothing, with every new idea or neat moment actively shitting on the previous game.
f20d63 No.15127373
>>15112349
KOTOR had a lot of cut content that people cleaned up and released as a mod for the game.
Interesting.
543518 No.15127426
>>15112355
>>15113238
Most of these were released later in other games. And ideas is not cut content, they are fucking ideas.
9c2b34 No.15127437
>>15127373
The first one, too? I thought only KOTOR II was released before it was finished (like half the game is gone).
c2aac7 No.15134588
That one turkish game that looks very similar to Mount&Blade, but actually is a first-person RTS, where you control a village/town/castle.
I was sad that it was cancelled. Happened like a few years ago.
c19a03 No.15134647
>>15124457
They likely do have the means, but they wanted to move away from Skullgirls to work on other projects. Namely, Indivisible. But given the way they turned a white cowboy party member into a nigger bounty hunter and, when the change caught negative reception, only brought back the white design as an NPC, it sounds too pozzed for me to bother.