/v/ - Video Games

>>15095847

It's hard to say but I bet other anons know more. All I do know is that Stardock said they would allow the original creators the right to star control only a few months ago and according to the creators they changed their word and were just telling lies. Also Stardock wants to sell the games on GOG (which is stupid since no one will buy a free game that is open source) while the original creators say that's stupid and only the open source version should exist.

>>15095817

apologies for deleting your threads as spam, but please be more clear in the future.

Thank you.

>>15095920

> play the games you are expected to moderate

How about (You) conform to my standards and tastes, faggot?

>>15095817

I don't know what that thing is but I'm certain there is porn of it.

Also there is a thread right here >>15095312

It was cool to have a secret language that only people who played SC could understand. What do you think "*Inbetween* *Spit*" means? It loosely translates to "Star Control Thread"

>>15095972

That's about the shitty stardock game that simply only shares the name in common. It isn't actually Star Control.

WHERE IS THE PORN

>>15096020

Holy shit I know the person who drew that third one

That's what that this is? I assumed it was an OC or something.

>>15096036

Really fucking close anon

>>15096048

>human painted blue

Out of all the aliens in the game?

>>15095847

Brad thinks he can steal the Star Control IP by making it too expensive for them to fight a bullshit lawsuit. He's been incredibly slimy, like his 'praise' thread where he backhandedly set up for a claim that Paul and Fred aren't actually the creators of Star Control. Other people that worked on the team smelled the bullshit and countered it before he made that claim part of the case, but he's now making that claim. He has to Jew as hard as possible with ridiculous claims like that because otherwise it's pretty clear that they retain the rights, especially since he tried and failed to buy the rights from them.

>fucking awful vols that repeatedly delete vidya threads

Why are you even here, you make everything worse.

>>15095847

The creators posted their side of the story here. https://dogarandkazon.squarespace.com/

As far as I know, what >>15095856 said is about right. They had an agreement and were both going to make games, but Stardock slapped them with a C&D, ordering them to stop making the game and to stop saying they created the originals.

>>15096048

They only draw yaoi.

>>15096084

Vols do it for Hotpockets and to feel power, not because they give a shit about vidya. I bet they are pissed that Mark told them to stop and deleted their whiny posts. I bet they are also going to sleep hungry tonight without a hotpocket to fill their bellies.

>>15096118

>>15096084

Already corrected stupidity.

>>15096090

>Stop saying they created the originals

They literally did. Paul and Reich literally created the first game single handedly.

>>15096117

Have him make some Bara Thradash porn then

MARK YOU FUCKING KIKE THESE THREADS ARE VIDEOGAMES

GET YOUR FUCKING WHELPS IN LINE

>>15095847

Original creators managed to get the Star Control series pulled from places like GoG and told Stardock to not use the original aliens, Stardock got mega asshurt and sued them and told them to eat a big meaty dick, original creators flipped their shit and went full victim mode. Cue both sides lying about what's actually happening since neither of their stories match each others or the documents they're releasing. Hell, if you follow the link to their blog in this post >>15096090 they talk about how their demands were so reasonable and outline them, but then posted a scan of a document where they literally say that they have the sole and exclusive rights to the first two games despite signing their souls away in the 80s.

tl;dr stupid oversensitive burnouts fighting with spiteful oversensitive company, and anyone who thinks one side is right is a retard, as they're both clearly being shit about it.

>>15096153

Ask him yourself, usually goes by P-RO. He takes requests on his Tumblrs.

>>15096185

But why? Do they really think anyone would buy a copy of star control 2 when there is a free HD remaster that freely exists that the original creators openly endorse?

>>15096020

>second image

I don't know how to feel about that.

The dialogue is cute but the design itself it kinda creepy but holy shit does that mouth and tongue look like it would feel godly

>>15096248

So you're saying if he were less weird you'd be totally on board?

>>15096255

Yes

>tfw no alien bf to give you godlike blowjobs

>>15096128

Yeah but lawsuits have the power to alter history, don't you know.

>>15096284

>>>/xen/2303

>>15096192

Because Paul and Fred have the tact of a "sovereign citizen" getting stopped for jaywalking and opened the mouth of the gift horse and shat in it, and Stardock has the restraint of an agitated aspergery fuck in the presence of someone who is aggressively blowing a dog whistle. Neither side really had anything to gain from selling SC2 (or the first game or the third game, for that matter) and they both know it. They're just jerking off at each other now and they actually cannot stop. If Paul and Fred stop, they admit they don't own Star Control anymore. If Stardock stops, they forfeit Star Control. There is no good solution because they're both assholes who send settlements and resolutions at each other that are less reasonable than you'd get from the AI in a Total War game.

>>15096199

I want to know more about the Androsynth.

>Star Control threads have been a thing on /v/ since it was fucking created back during the 1st exodus

>We have and fucking Star Control Banner on the site because of how much of a fanbase the game has here

Why does Mark let newfags and underage be vols?

>Beat game

>Have a total of probably 100 hours in it

>Still find that there are species I didn't even know about

Like what the fuck are these guys?

>>15096325

I was aroused at first but then I saw the images of the elites hugging, now I feel lonely and sad.

>>15096104

>They are called the Syreen which is short for "Sexy green".

I always thought it was a play on siren, especially since their psychic attack is basically a siren's song that causes crew members to jump into space.

>>15096117

There are Syreen males, they just almost went extinct.

>>15096409

Good thing they encourage

RACE MIXING

>>15096422

They're a product of convergent evolution, anon. Syreen are white.

For those who are interested

>>15095817

>*Jumping Peppers*, let us *spit* together. Do not forget to *enjoy the sauce*.

Are you soliciting me?

>>15096763

So anon, Did you *enjoy the sauce*?

There isn't enough Star Control porn to ironically shitpost with

>>15096861

There isn't enough Star Control 2 in general. The fanbase is very dedicated (just look at the source forge with updates as early as may) but also very small. Look at these faggots who don't even know what Star Control is.

>>15096737

Also this

>>15096895

>Paul and Ford, do you want to help us make a star control game?

>No we will make our own

>Stardock get's butthurt that everyone is calling the Paul and Ford game the true successor

Seems to be that the original creators are in the right.

>>15096185

>Original creators managed to get the Star Control series pulled from places like GoG and told Stardock to not use the original aliens, Stardock got mega asshurt

You're missing a lot. For months Stardock had been privately telling them they couldn't release Ghosts without licensing rights from Stardock, while they were telling the public they were happy to see Ghosts getting made. They were also getting increasingly grabby with things they didn't own, like putting the original games up for sale and putting SC2 content in Origins. They were seeing how much they could just grab, and if they could pressure P&F into an agreement where Stardock would also get partial control of Ghosts or part of the revenue. It eventually got to the point where continuing to refuse an offer you can't refuse would result in a lawsuit so P&F decided to refuse, assert their rights and, sure enough, Stardock didn't have the rights to sell the original games and they were taken down. And they didn't have the rights to the SC2 content and removed it. Stardock didn't get asshurt about this, they were already working on a lawsuit.

What would you have done in that situation? Answer: you'd have let Stardock just take everything from you because you didn't have the money to fight them, and agree to be given scraps in return for your signature. P&F think they have the money to fight it, but justice is very expensive. Remember SCO's Linux licenses? That ran up legal fees into several hundred million dollars, took 10 years to settle, and the conclusion was that they didn't even own the code they sued over.

>>15097086

>You're missing a lot. For months Stardock had been privately telling them they couldn't release Ghosts without licensing rights from Stardock

That's because they wanted to market Ghosts as the "True Sequel to Star Control" which they can't do without having the license.

>>15097176

Stardock should be bombed to death.

>>15097231

Stardock can't do anything about it, the pressure failed because P&F brought in a lawyer.

>>15096371

Who was the mod that deleted the threads? I bet it was Pewter retarded ass

>>15097176

Stardock already owns the trademark, anon. How can P&F sell something they don't have?

>>15097284

Stardock only owns the name, P&F owns everything else. It's exactly the kind of legal clusterfuck you imagine that to be.

>>15097284

They own the copyright to the name Star Control, but P&F own the trademarks to the ships and alien races.

It's a mess of a lawsuit. If you look into it Stardock was trying to work with them and sell them the copyright, but they refused.

>>15097301

And Stardock knew that exactly, which is why they got some dumb fuck from Cracked.cum to write their game (which is also why I am excited for this game as I am to have FEMA send me to an adult fun camp.)

Why the fuck are you guys talking about copyright?

>>15097326

Didn't make myself clear. They knew about the fact that while they owned the game, they owned none of the intellectual property, meaning that everything in Stardock's game is going to be the brainchild of the aforementioned cuck from Cracked.cum, mr Chris Bucholz.

>>15097333

Because the issue of intellectual property is affecting what content can and cannot be in the games.

The Star Control being put out now has nothing to do with the other games because:

STARDOCK ONLY OWNS THE NAME STAR CONTROL

as well as the shit that only appeared in Star Control 3, which few people liked.

The dispute is also effecting the development of a direct sequel to Star Control 2 done by the two main developers and writers from the first two games, Paul Reiche III and Fred Ford.

Paul and Fred own all of the intellectual property from the first two games except for the name Star Control, which was retained by Accolade, Infogrames, Atari, and then it went to Stardock when Atari was broke.

So everything's FUBAR and who gets to make what is up in the air.

We know that Stardock wants the rights to Star Control I and II shit so that they can put it in their own game as expansion packs, so they're still pursuing the case.

tl;dr Intellectual Property laws a fuck

>>15097086

I didn't miss any of that, it's covered in the part where both sides are making up random shit that don't match the documents. The piece you posted here >>15097176 appears in Paul and Fred's proposed settlement but in reverse - they want everything Stardock has for Star Control I, II, and III turned over to them, noting that they never even claimed they owned Star Control III.

>Stardock didn't have the rights to sell the original games and they were taken down.

It's worth noting that this isn't how either of them described it. Paul and Fred claimed to have been the only ones with a contract with GOG and that they pulled it as a first step in removing the games from stores. Stardock claimed to have removed the games from the places they posted for sale as a gesture of good will. Neither side has disputed the others claims for this. On these grounds, the statement I quoted is not factual.

The stuff about how Stardock were being greedy shekelsteins and planning lawsuits all along and only suing because they thought they couldn't defend themselves is just part of the victim story. It's no different than Stardock's spin that the entire series is in jeopardy because some guys who were important to the series are being mean to them and that they have to sue to preserve their copyright. None of what either of them say matters when the documents tell the truth from both sides. Any claims either of them make about private conversations is also meaningless because they could just release the communications, just like they posted GOG e-mails.

>What would you have done in that situation?

Not let people repeatedly trade a brand I believed I owned while waiting 20 years to stand up and say, "Hah! I had it the whole time! The contract was void because of a condition that was never really met that I never acknowledged!" I would have been pro-active when it mattered and not sat there like a bitter neet with his arms crossed muttering, "it was in the contract". I wouldn't have waited until now to decide to make the direct sequel. Which brings me to the start of the circle - both sides are colossal fuck-ups here. All of this was so avoidable.

>>15097366

>STARDOCK ONLY OWNS THE NAME STAR CONTROL

No, they own the brand. That's what a Trademark is. Quite a big difference there. It's not just the name, but all of the identifiers. McDonalds has a trademark on their own brand and McNuggets, but if some chain introduced a food item called McTenders, they'd get their assholes sued through their throats. That's why their case holds ground. That's why the only good solution to the whole issue was for Paul and Fred to just sign on with Stardock when they were offered to collaborate, and just mold the project from the inside. If they would have, we'd just have gotten the one game and none of this hassle. In fact, I still hope that they fight each other for so long that they get tired of it and just suck each others dicks dry and collaborate anyway. Because unfortunately, Paul and Fred are probably going to lose everything, and the Stardock game is probably going to suck.

>>15097529

As much as I'm in favor of Paul & Fred's claim on this, I have to agree that it would have been better for them to just work with Stardock on making a new Star Control instead of the Cucked.cum Chris Bucholz written shit we have now.

Anyone bother archiving the shit show? I want to see the Vols getting BTFO

>>15097551

Stardock would have raped it and that is why they didn't want to work with stardock

>>15097324

>>15097324

It's the opposite. They wanted to buy SC from Fred and Paul

>>15098427

>After decades of ignoring the franchise, why do the creators care now

Because they didn't have the rights to the name so they couldn't release Star Control Electric Boogaloo.

Theres a reason why the open source free version of SC2 is name Ur Quan Masters and not Star Control.

Over the past decade Toys for Bob has been doing nothing but shitting out skylander games to stay afloat.

>>15098427

The creators have always wanted to make another Star Control game. StarCon was cancelled because they were trying to do what Colony Wars had already done better and they felt like they were just falling behind.

The only reason they managed to get control of the content back was because Acclaim went under, and functioning as a studio in the post-2D market requires significant capital, something that making games like Skylanders provided. But they could never get the cash they'd need to get a proper 3D Star Control off the ground

However the 2D market has come back around, this time without significant hardware restrictions on graphical display, and the marketability of nostalgia for old titles is huge. Now is the perfect time for a new Star Control made by the original creators

>>15098427

>After decades of ignoring the franchise, why do the creators care now?

They've been pitching a sequel for decades. The last time they were quite close to getting approval from Activision and started posting about it publicly but the publisher instead decided that they should resurrect a Vivendi property. And so we got Skylanders. It was a hit and they've been dealing with that until recently. This time they gave up on the idea of getting a publisher interested and decided to just finance it out of pocket using the money they made from Skylanders. But without a publisher, their pockets are relatively shallow which invites attempts by Jews to force them to give away their rights rather than fight expensive frivolous lawsuits.

>>15098460

>But without a publisher, their pockets are relatively shallow which invites attempts by Jews to force them to give away their rights rather than fight expensive frivolous lawsuits.

Exactly this is what smells fishy from Stardock's site. Not only this, the legal feud has a prelude everyone can follow. It first started with Wardell obtaining the brand name Star Control and some SC3 exclusive shit from Atari's insolvency estate. Remember; Ur Quan Masters isn't called Open Star Control, because Atari had the name. Then Wardell tried to buy the rights to the rest of Star Control 1 and 2 from Toys for Bob. Paul and Fred declined, because they wanted to make their SC game.

When Wardell has only the Tradmark from Atari but not the rights to the games themselves, why bother?

https://www.dogarandkazon.com/blog/2017/12/4/star-control-i-ii-and-iii-arent-for-sale-on-gogcom-any-more-how-come

Oh yeah. Because he wants the entire thing that Atari actually didn't own. What a load of bullshit, because selling Star Control 1 and 2 with preconfigured Dosbox to stupid youngfags on Steam could be very profitable. Not only that; Neither owning the original Ayyliens nor the canon could be detrimental to Star Control Origin's success. This led to the attempt to claim that Fred and Paul are not the original creators of Star Control and thus demanding that they shouldn't have the IP rights to everything SC1 and 2 that isn't its brand name.

This even goes for the name GHOSTS OF THE PRECURSORS, the name of the planned SC2 sequel.

So according to the lore and what I interpreted humans were specifically designed by the Arilou so the Orz couldn't *smell* them. The Orz vs Arilou thing is the most interesting part of the lore to me.

>>15095893

Kill yourself scum, go back to playing Fortnite or whatever games you know, retard

>>15100487

It's a fucking leaf. Who wants porn of a fucking leaf?

>>15100487

How do you know it is the Zoq? They don't even know themselves who are the Zoq, Fot or Pik.

Also Eternal Doctrine > Path of Now and Forever, it is the superior doctrine.

>>15100576

The source code identifies which is which, actually. http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Zoq-Fot-Pik#ref_3

i am the only one that finds sirens not attractive? they look like clowns whit their hair color and bright red lips, i was raped by Talana (i dont recall her name well) since i told her to keep her hands off me and she said that she didnt needed to use her hands…

>>15100645

Sirens and Arilou Lalee'lay are two reasons the Ur-quan are doing nothing wrong.

>>15100664

>Arilou Lalee'lay

what's wrong whit those?, they are shady but you cant say they are evil.

>>15100673

When the war started to turn against the Alliance they simply just vanished. Also they won't answer a fucking question straight.

>>15100708

That's because they don't care if humans "win" or not. They knew that humans losing the war means they will be safe within the bubble.

>>15095893

>Be more clear in the future

>Literally 20 threads with a dozen or so anons explaining that it was Orz speak

How could it have been more clear?

Any word if Paul and Fred are still making the sequel? I know Stardock is trying to kike them but that wont stop them right?

>>15100728

Grew up with the original so the remastered art looks weird to me, but honestly speaking it isn't actually bad (unless someone posts examples that are fucking terrible, anyway).

> What's your guys opinion on the original pixel art vs the remastered HD art?

The pixel art was glorious for its time. The new art is pretty good, it respects the original and loses the jpg artifacts.

>>15095893

I really wish you cancer. If you don't know the subject you're talking about, AT LEAST BOTHER A LITTLE BIT TO LURK OR ASK OTHER ANONS IN THE THREAD UNDER YOUR MODERATOR NAME WHAT IS GOING ON OR ELSE REMOVE YOURSLEF FAGGOT.

>>15104130

But Anon, vols can't both lurk and do it for free.

>>15096390

That's from project 6014, not in the original game.

>>15104130

>>15104293

vols exist to be laughed at and shitted on.

>>15096365

It would all be relinquished to random art blogs on Tumblr with less than 150 followers.

I dug through a ton of text on the lawsuit business a while back, let me translate Stardock's account into a shorter story:

>yo P&F we just bought the rights to Star Control, you wanna buy it?

<nah we're too busy

>k we're making a game now

3 years pass, game is made

<yo can we work on a side project

>alright, though the anniversary is soon and we're gonna show a lot of SC:O to the fans then

<hey it's the anniversary we're working on a true sequel to Star Control

>yo you can't call it true sequel or use the boxart to advertise, we own the rights to that

<actually remove this tiny nod to the Orz in a still image

<also police fanart and fan creations

>uh, no?

<wtf we take down your right to sell the old games now

>well fuck you, have a lawsuit

<we're making a blogposts complaining about your lawsuit and not telling what happened

<here's the media helping us btw

>well fuck, you just damaged our brand worth one metric fucktonne of dosh

>you can settle for that metric fucktonne minus the rights to use SCII aliens though

<ree you're trying to steal our copyright more blogposts

Note that I'm of course not certain this is the truth, but it's a lot easier to find P&Fs account than to puzzle Stardock's together so I felt it was only right to make theirs as easily accessible.

>>15096383

The Androsynth were clone humans used for slave labor, but they got asshurt about that like the niggers they are so they fucked off into space after the first game. They're not in the second I think (at least vanilla) but there's some references to them.

>>15100487

More importantly: how the fuck did they build a civilization without limbs?

>>15109276

>random art blogs on Tumblr with less than 150 followers

That's rather specific. Are you talking out of experience, Anon? If so, I would encourage you to draw porn of your favorite aliens.

>>15100728

The new art is nice, though not animated