/v/ - Video Games

Playing it on emulator is going to be free anyway so see for yourself.

Do you like 3D platforming?

Definitely worth playing.

If you already have a 64 and the game, just do that, otherwise, emulators are fine. Use whichever one works for you. I use retroarch with the mupen core. Mupen is command-line only, so you have to use a third-party gui or just use it as a retroarch core. Retroarch is the easiest and best-supported option.

I honestly don't know why you'd make this thread. You could literally just start up an emulator, play it for an hour or so, and decide whether or not you want to keep playing.

i think it's pretty fun. i'd say play it on an emulator, no big deal.

Last year I played F-Zero X, SM64, LoZ OoT & LoZ MM. All highly regarded games, all praised. They were all deserving of the hype because they were fantastic. SM64 is essential though, for being groundbreaking and still being one of the best in its genre.

>>15095616

>Is this game worth playing?

First we have to talk about parallel universes.

I replayed it recently, the first stages are some of the best in the game. After that it ranges from good to mediocre. It's still a modern marvel in terms of game design and how it basically showed off how 3D games can work. However as a game I prefer Odyssey since it has more content despite having less worlds. Still both games are fun and I do recommend them.

>>15095779

I really need to find a brawler 64 and an adapter, I feel like playing N64 games with a modern control scheme is a bit funky.

>>15095616

It's massively overrated.

>>15095779

Is an xbox 360 controller okay as well? It's all I have.

>>15095941

Any controller is fine as long as it has a good analog stick.

The game really benefits from analog movement, using keys or a d-pad just wouldn't do it justice.

>>15095941

It only would kinda work thanks to the design of the N64 controller that technically has 2 dpads and z butoon. Something the old Thrustmaster Firstorm 4 had but the xbox 360 controller hasn't.

>>15095970

64 had those but it only had one analog stick and one row of shoulder buttons. Z can be mapped to any shoulder button left over and the c-buttons to the right analog stick.

It's only worth playing if you never press A

>>15096005

or never use the joystick >>15095633

>>15095793

Could you explain why?

>>15096027

People just tend to suck it's dick whitout reason.

It's a really fun game to play, but not without it's flaws. Just play it for a bit and make your own opinion on it. It's super simple and fast to set up, the time you've spent on this thread you'd already have a few stars.

>>15095985

As I said: It would kind work. Its pretty awkward for some games.

>>15096053

You forgot to mention that it has aged horribly. There are also some problems with the physics and clipping that is exploited for speedruns all the time.

>>15096071

I don't even think it aged badly. The movement is still fun as hell, with barely any games to this day coming close to it's freedom, and the collision issues are very rare and don't affect the game significantly when just playing the game normally.

What I dislike is how the stars are designed to take you out of the level when you collect them and this can't be simply fixed since the level changes itself when you aim for different stars.

>>15096071

>>15096122

Oh yeah, and the camera is pretty bad by today's standard. THAT didn't age well at all.

>>15096122

I mean graphics wise. That the movement is still good I suppose. The camera. Yeah, I forget that thing. Other than that, it is hardly outdone by any other 3D Platformer. Only Banjo Kazooie comes to mind which was on the same system.

>>15096005

What about half presses?

Get it for DS

>>15096246

do not

>>15096268

Is that even confirmed?

>>15096246

I will not

>>15096283

Yeah, trust me, my wife's son's dad works at Nintendo.

Do NOT play the DS version

It removed analog controls and reduced your movement to the dpad. Even if you play it on a 3DS, your movement is locked to the 4 axes and it's awful

>>15096706

Never had a problem on the 3DS, honestly, was almost impressed after how many faggots bitched about it. Should also remember that the N64 had an 8-sided cutout around the fucking analogue stick. What I did have a problem is getting stuck on edges and other annoying glitches in 64, particularly those sliding things in Snowman's Land, kept glitching into them for some ungodly fucking reason. DS is just a more polished version and it takes five minutes at most to adjust to the run button.

>>15096053

>Without reason.

>Pioneered movement in a 3d space when such a thing was still inconceivable to most people.

>Being this underage.

Come the fuck on m8.

Yes, ignore the emuniggers with their 3rd party wired 360 controllers, play it on real hardware.

>>15097188

Bug would make anyone wonder why anyone had any faith in Sonic Xtreme.

It is definitely worth playing. It was a lot of fun when I played it. If possible, play it on an N64 but if not, then play an emulated version.

I wonder if Nintendo will release a mini-N64 like they did with the NES and SNES.

>playing bing bing wahoo

>>15097220

Bug and its sequel were pretty mediocre games. The Saturn ended up with some pretty good 3D platformers like the Lupin III game and Ninpen Manmaru.

>>15097227

The N64 seems like the biggest nostalgia bait console of all time with an absurd amount of interest invested by modders who are merely reacting to market demands. Shit a mod chip fitted with a Cyclone10 FPGA that lets the N64 output line doubled 480p, VGA RGBHV, Component, and HDMI just got created. Someone's buying this shit. If a classic is made it's gonna be one of the most popular and can probably get away with having just 15 games. Having 30 games on there is like 96% of the library so that might be overkill.

The only true complaints I had with supr mario 64 are that 100 coin stars pad out the game too much. they take up a big chunk of the 120 stars and feel boring and tedious to collect when I replay it. and also that the bosses were easy and seriously lacked variety.

The camera is still pretty good. the mario c-down and lakitu c-down cameras do a good job even by today's standards. some music like dire dire docks still holds up very well. stay way if you are a graphics whore. this game came out when the shift between 2d and 3d happened. if you are expecting modern hd graphics from n64 games, you talk exactly like a millennial child would.

On a real n64 or on pc emulators, it doesn't matter where you play it on. but playing it with an n64 controller helps because all the buttons on the game's hud are n64 buttons. less confusing tht way

>>15096143

An a press is an a press. You can't say it's only a half.

>>15095616

Ever seen a gay nigger play mario?

>>15095729

Not in '96 it wasn't.

>>15095616

I'd recommend playing it just for its historic significance. Many will argue it simply has not aged well at all. But its one of those "you gotto play it at least once before you die" games. Its hard to ignore the influence it has had on the industry

>Is this classic game worth playing?

Just try it, you faggot. It's fondly remembered for a reason.

It's a broken old game where you need the case and the manual inside it to make sense of everything.

It's, in my opinion, the best 3D platformer, all around, ever made. And frankly, that's not really high praise for this game, because you'll notice how many flaws it has really quickly. It's moreso a critique of every single other 3d platformer around.

The way I see it, tons of platformers have done one thing better than Mario 64, but everything else worse, or not as interestingly.

An example, comparing it to the rest of the 3D Mario games, this is the only one that doesn't rely on a gimmick to sell it. It's Nintendo's obsession of needless innovation where they don't need it, while keeping real flaws still identical. Sunshine had FLUDD, a shitty gimmick that invalidated all challenge. It's settings were also absolute trash. It, however, smoothed out Mario's controls to some extent.

Galaxy/2 had stages where they had to minimize the gravity element and make them just linear stages with black holes because the gravity-oriented stages were less focused on actual platforming and more on the gravity gimmick. Though, arguably, the actual presentation was far better.

Odyssey, I'd say, is the best follow-up to 64, since it's gimmick still relies on platforming a lot of the time, and the game lets you get mostly everything without transformations, but then I have to ask why even put it there, aside for "it looks cool in the trailer", since the actual transformations slowed the game down significantly. But again, Mario's controls are phenomenal in this game.

For some other series, Spyro has phenomenal stage settings, and amazing OSTs, but the actual stages aren't as fun to play, since they're basically quite linear, and the games themselves are far too short.

Crash is a completely different beast, it's a 2D platformer played from behind, and comparing it to any other games mentioned is barely applicable.

Banjo Kazooie and Tooie have more interesting characters and generally a more lively world, but they push the collectathon aspect more, and between that, and Banjo's controls, the games themselves are far too slow for my tastes.

And because some anons swear by this game, A Hat in Time, once again, has more lively worlds, but far too few of them, with missions that drag on far too long and generally, everything in the game overstays its welcome.

Of course, I know I pissed a lot of anons off already, and that's fine, which is why you should just play it yourself and see, OP. There's a lot of things to like, and to dislike, about 64. Specifically, there are a lot of missed opportunities in otherwise great stages (Jolly Roger Bay comes to mind), and a lot of filler stars that should have been replaced with more interesting missions, at least in DS where they weren't as limited, tech-wise.

>>15098125

>influence

>3D platformers disappeared a generation later

Such a big influence.

>>15098531

I've said this before, it's simply because normalfags can't into 3D cameras, and fine-tuning the 3D controls takes a fucking ton of effort for any dev, so, between it having a smaller potential playerbase than 2D platformers, and taking more effort, most companies don't bother. It's the same reason that original puzzle games died, and all we have is Puyo, Tetris, and Puyo Tetris.

>>15095616

play it if you like mario games, but if you haven't played any mario games in the past 20 years I don't see why you would start with this one

http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_64_emulators

How the fuck haven't you played this classic yet?

>>15096268

>>15096789

Seriously though, why do people like Crash? The first one is a shit platformer with awful controls, the second one is mediocre at best and the third one is a gimmick fest that is again mediocre at best.

>>15099036

They're certainly fun for a quick burst, but not really comparable to most other 3d platformers. It reminds me a lot of Mario 3d Land, with its short stages. It would probably work quite well as a portable game, actually.

Threads like this make me remember like 70% of this board is under 20.

>>15099083

it's depressing

>>15099083

Mom says you have to let me use the computer now.

>>15099083

>>15099106

>>15099112

>Anyone that doesn't like an overrated pile of garbage is underage

>>15097220

Reminder Sonic Lost World is just Sonic Xtreme.

>>15099083

Are you saying that because someone hasn't played a classic video game or because people are saying they should play it?

>>15099472

>A 3d platformer without analog controls

No

No.

It's pretentious hipster garbage that only burgers felate because n64 is the only console they ever saw in their lives.

Play Crash Bandicoot instead.

It's worth playing. It's not amazing or life changing but it has rock solid movement (taking the backflip and triple jump from Game Boy Donkey Kong, which is a damn good game in it's own right: despite initially looking to be a port of the arcade game, it's got like a hundred levels and it's actually a puzzle platformer) and basically standardized 3D platformers. People say the level design is like a tech demo but I'm personally a fan of the "isolated islands floating somewhere in a tractless sky" asthetic. Game also boots you back to the hub whenever you complete a star, but this was clearly a design choice because some stars alter the levels when you choose them on entry. Just try it with a controller and if you hate it after an hour or two, just quit.

>>15096127

>>15096132

Personally, I like the camera. It does what you tell it to almost always, but it's too bad it just goes by a tap in one direction or the other instead of fluid movement based on holding the c button. And there's a few options to choose from if you need them.

>>15099681

I was and I never liked early 3d games ecause of that control scheme.

>>15099644

Again, Crash Bandicoot was pure garbage with awful controls and shit level design.

>>15099888

Checked

>>15099888

Dub trips are nice, though arguable.

Here's my breakdown of Crash, if I may.

1 is slow, and experimental. It's stages had interesting ideas, but it was too slow to really be a lot of fun. Not a terrible game, just kind of average.

2 is far better because of the added sliding mechanics. The game itself is a lot more interesting, though I think it lost a lot in terms of stage settings. I was never fond of the early stages in 1, but the haunted settings and such were pretty cool. I always hated 2's river stage settings, not for challenge, but the settings were just not interesting. It got more interesting towards the end, though.

3 had some interesting variations in gameplay, but they ended up detracting from the overall game, just because there's so fucking many of them. It's the most polished, but also the least focused. The plot gave them the ability to have a lot more unique settings, but only the dinosaur stages really stood out, unfortunately.

For the entire series, my main gripe is that it's the equivalent of taking each of Spyro 2's stages, and making each orb it's own level. It's silly. I never liked having multiple stages share the same general aesthetic. On top of that, since the aesthetics also then shared gameplay perspective (behind the back, 2D or mix of the two), the stages would feel quite samey. It's a matter of preference, though I think that, without the juvenile humor, a very polished, full version of Twinsanity could have outshone the original trilogy.

>>15099928

>It's stages had interesting ideas

Doom 2 had that, and that game is a pile of dogshit.

>>15095616

Yes, get a controller and have a blast. I got tired of it around the cave level.

>>15096027

It's got cookie-cutter gameplay for the sub-genre that's all. Advanced for its time but nothing special nowadays.

>>15100331

Why are you using 'nowadays' as a standard? By today's standards, even Bubsy 3d can be called a masterpiece

>>15099472

It has some good improvements, but the control scheme and retarded way they implemented the extra characters make it worse than the original.

>>15099681

It can work but it doesn't mean the analog input is better, specially in a game as dynamic as Mario 64.

>>15099690

It's not only the "tap", it also has a reversed horizontal control(this one can be personal and easily fixed in an emulator) and a retarded zoom function instead of panning up and down.

>>15099509

just use the touch screen :^)

>>15100452

There IS an app to use along with an emulator that lets you use an analog stick to use the touchscreen and simulate actual analog stick input, but the game's physics and mechanics still aren't the same. It's better to just stick to the original.

>>15099681

If you were alive in the 90s you would know that Tomb Raider is grid based whereas Mario 64 has actual 3d movement.

Not really. Galaxy and Odyssey do the same thing but each while being flawed offers better examples of certain things. Only a half autist press really lauds it. Ocarina has aged, Mario 64 went rotten.

Play it anon, you will never be able to form your own opinion if you listen to retards here.

>>15100722

Galaxy takes too much time to begin, and doesn't have as much movement.

Also wiimote gimmick and levels based on novelties. It's ok but not better, just some crazy shit in the levels but you can't finish them in many different manners, or try to accomplish different objectives while being focused on another one.

Bad shit from 64 is the levels being too fucking small, otherwise it's still interesting

>>15100868

My biggest gripe with Galaxy was that the stages where gravity was an important element were far too simple, platforming wise. There were of course, stages that didn't have as much of a focus on gravity completely invalidated the main gimmick of the game, aside for perhaps putting a black hole where a bottomless pit would be otherwise. It's like Sunshine - most stages are piss-easy due to FLUDD, the only hard ones are the ones that take him away but that invalidates the game's main focus.

>>15098531

>>3D platformers disappeared a generation later

>implying Mario 64 influenced just 3D platformers

"Anyone who makes 3D games who says they've not borrowed something from Mario or Zelda [on the Nintendo 64] is lying." -Dan Houser

>>15100722

Odyssey is more it's style, but everything from Galaxy to 3D World is much different. The games have more linear oriented levels, it's more similar to Crash's level design than Mario 64 in terms of direction.

>>15101103

Bid related and definitely worth watching

>>15101052

Yes, because Titanfall 2 borrows so much from Mario and Zelda. It's the exact same game!

>>15098518

This entire post is bait.

>>15100466

>>15100452

This was one time being a lefty was so useful. I had no problem playing Mario 64 DS because I used the thumb strap and touch screen for my movement.

>>15103219

Ironically enough I played the game more easily on the left handed settings since it freed up your right hand more.

>>15099036

>implying mario 64 isn't mediocre

>>15095941

>>15095970

>>15095985

It works fine, a number of N64 games were ported to gamecube and worked fine with that gamepad, which has even fewer buttons than a 360 controller.

>>15099509

>Having this much of a hard time running diagonally

What are you, retarded?

>>15107749

It's based off of a manga/anime, the studio made a lot of anime games like the 90's mahoujin guruguru games and even some tenchi muyo games.