/v/ - Video Games

>every

I'm willing to bet you're basing your very broad assumption on dork souls remastered and maybe that ezio collection thing that turned out to be bullshit.

It's acceptable because people buy games before the game's actually out/actual ingame change evaluations are released

>>15093752

It's called "soul" and only artists have it.

Devs who make remakes aren't artists. They're either putting in time for a paycheck for suits who want to make an easy buck, or they're squeeing uncultured fanboys who don't have the talent or cultivation to make something original.

Same kind of drones that crank out mobile phone timesinks.

Yakuza Kiwami doesn't seem to be a bad remaster/remake of Yakuza. Skip to about the 3 minute mark for the direct comparisons.

>>15093848

what you are implying is that video games are art, which is a mistaken presumption

>>15093864

Well, the first Yakuza game was a mess with the weird English dub and all. Obviously the first in the series and the least refined, so it wasn't hard to improve upon.

im just gonna post the best remaster here. 'kay, thanks, bye

>>15093868

The game aspect of games can be art, and we're just scratching the surface of it with stuff like Doki Doki Literature Club and Undertale. Unfortunately artistic gameplay like that causes psychologically vulnerable people to confuse fantasy with reality and go insane, so it will probably be banned before we really see what can happen.

>>15093888

>metafaggotry is artistic gameplay

You mean autistic gameplay? Art in gameplay is in the mix of mechanics, design and challenge, not "haha i break fourth wall haha spooky".

Video games in their entirety are art but they shouldn't be treated as such. When they are, it brings out pretentious assmongers who make shit like Fez and Gone Home and game equivalents of Oscar bait.

>>15093961

>metafaggotry

It's more like completely integrating the player's autonomy into an artistic experience in a coherent, meaningful way without breaking immersion–like being able to step into a movie and make meaningful actions that influence the plot, and having the "game" fully convince you that you are having a real experience. Perhaps that kind of experience ceases to be a game at that point. Those kinds of experiences might not be games, but they're definitely something novel.

Unfortunately, as I said, mentally deficient normals will ruin it and get it banned.

>>15093752

"Remasters" are all about memory holing the games they're based on, lowering acceptable standards across the board.

>>15093872

How is Master Quest a remaster?

>>15094012

>>15093872

It was a port of OOC to the GC with swapped around enemies. Nevermind it was based off of an unreleased N64 rom.

>>15093752

Several reasons:

>They're cynically trying to fix something that isn't broken for shekels

>They have to 'make their mark' on it or else what was the point?

>They're talentless hacks

>It's Current Year

So you have a confluence of useless self important ignorants trying to justify their wretched existences but with no discernable skills at their disposal, so they can't help but shit all over everything they touch.

Why do we need to make the same threads every second week?

It's been whole decades and you retards still haven't learned the answer?

It is because the majority of game designers nowadays are talentless hacks and the people working under them are 19 year old mentally ill transfaggots

That's it, the one and only absolute undeniable truth. Why did you need to make a thread about this subject for the millionth time?

>>15093888

>DDLC and Undertale are the furthest point vidya has reached

Both those games are mediocre at best. Neither of them use the proper game design philosophies we've figured out over the past 40 years. In film equivalent, they're a college drop-out fucking around with a camera thinking he's being "smart".

Gameplay takes the backseat in those games, in order to tell a terribly boring and poorly written story. Even if the gameplay has relation to the story, it's nowhere near where we've been before: Deus Ex ties in the story and worldbuilding to each portion of gameplay, and Alpha Centauri combines the tricky political stuff with the exploration of an actual foreign planet. Both these games have major flaws, but neither have the issues Undertale and DDLC have.

>>15093996

>telltale shit

"Decisions influence the plot" is a writer's nightmare, not even the best DM can account for every possible action a player takes. This is why game mechanics exist, to limit the number of options you have. We will not be able to have Fallout 3's advertised "infinite endings" for a very long time.

>>15093888

>We're just scratching the surface with Doki Doki and Undertale

Of a colossal mountain of irredeemable garbage.

>>15093888

Of course super Hitler wouldn't know what art is.