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I want to get Limbo Prime but I guess is only a matter of piling up relics, I also need Zephyr Prime's BP, got 30+ relics for that and so far it hasn't dropped.

Started playing mid-April, got kind of sucked in while on the mend. Managed to get Nekros Prime right under the wire, and trying to get to Sedna slowly. Only need one more part for Equinox, and then focus farming can begin, so says one of my friends at least.

Enjoying the community, and I've caught up on a bunch of podcasts in the meantime.

>>15043564

Equinox farming on Adaro is nice, but not the end-all be-all. You can do pretty well in regular Sanctuary Onslaught if that's more your style. I mix the two up because spamming sleep as Nightquinox and having heavies occasionally break my stealth combo gets boring after awhile.

>>15043572

>night equinox

>not going day and nuking shit to hell and back

I once teamed up with another day equinox, an oberon and a trinity to see how far we could go in a relic popping survival mode. With me and the other equinox passing back hundreds of millions of damage we sat there insta-killing level 150 enemies. We managed to get to wave 100 and get that free radiant relic from the consecutive rewards then went another 5 waves to pop them.

So how shitty will they turn melee with 3.0?

>>15043705

>DE will never do their shitty level 999 enhanced stats napalm mode for people to cheese for a sigil again

I miss it, cheesing their modes because they couldn't design actual difficulty was pretty fun.

>>15043916

How did you cheese those?

>>15043942

>Mag, Hydroid, Valkyr(old Valk) and Trinity

>Trinity for infinite energy and healing if something went wrong

>It took place on one of the open Grineer maps, I think Ceres defense

>Everyone stands on the edge in a corner of the map

>Hydroid steps forward to where enemies have a sight line and goes into pool form

>Valkyr goes and aggros everything into following her

>She then uses rip line to pull them all into Hydroids pool

>Once enough of them have built up in there, Hydroid releases his pool so they all come out in one spot

>Mag pulls them and ducks

>Whoosh as they all go over mags head off the edge of the map and die

Pure cheese. It was great fun though and it would be pretty neat to be forced to experiment to see what we can come up with using new frames as well. Though now DE would probably just make everything immune to all abilities and CC effects instead.

>>15043989

Why did they make Hysteria so energy hungry after a while when you can only replenish with orbs anyway?

>>15043989

That does sound like fun.

>>15044081

I still don't get it, what's the point of making a horde game if you want people to not be able to outperform your bullet sponges in the first place? if they really want you to stop at rotation C in "endless" content they shouldn't have made it endless to begin with.

>>15044098

Almost every single negative change the game has gotten can be attributed to either Scott or Glenn. Scott in particular seems to get personally offended at the notion that Warframe isn't some super difficult meme game and people can and do effortlessly mow through entire legions of enemies. He was also the one responsible for Mesa being dumpstered for a while and also Mag being turned into virtually unplayable dogshit from her original status as the ultimate anti-Corpus weapon. Glenn's most notable fuckery was singlehandedly ruining Exterminate (the mode) for 7 months just because some people were farming it for focus faster than intended. It was that shit change where missions took 3-4x as long because only the exact number of enemies you needed to kill spawn and they would spawn behind you or at the entrance so you'd have to backtrack the entire fucking level to finish them off.

Oh and my personal favorite, Scott implemented Universal Vaccuum with PoE's release and then snarked at the community for not noticing, using it as proof that we didn't "really" want/need it.

He set the distance to 3m, which is so short that it's actually impossible to notice unless you're both the host AND not using a sentinel

I just started playing a week or two ago, I have a couple questions

why are there so many different currencies what the fuck?

why are there only 2 warframe slots?

is there some way I can put it into a wider third person or first person, or do I just have to get good at over the shoulder?

whats the best way to get plat? I sold some endo statues but I already leveled my third frame and need more slots again

wtf is the difference between normal and prime?

why do some most of the warframes make my peepee hard?

what even am I doing with weapon modding, I feel like just pumping in elemental damage is working but I doubt its so simple and there is probably a meta I am ignorant of

I keep getting some frame parts from strange places, like I have 7 harrow chassis but I thought the bosses dropped frame parts?

is there anything I should know that I didnt mention?

also since I just did the quest that gives you chroma

>lotus sends you to die several times a day and ordis has no problems

>ordis wants to fuck this other cephalon

>he sends you into a dangerous situation

>ordis flips out for some reason

???

>>15044126

You can just do him solo, he's piss easy.

>>15044128

>currencies

Credits is what you're using 99.(9)% of the time.

Platinum is only useful for player-to-player trading or buying cosmetics.

Ducats are only relevant at baro and he's a primed disappointment.

>2 slots

Because they expect you to buy plat.

>wider

Check settings, there's an FOV slider iirc. Or just get used to it, the game's camera is far from claustrophobic.

>plat

Again, warframe.market

Open relics and sell primetrash from them

>normal v prime

Prime weapons and frames have improved stats.

>why

Because you're a degenerate. It's okay tho.

>weapon modding

Level your mods, pay attention to which chance is higher at the base and pump that as well as damage.

Basically, every gun you have should be fitted with serration and split chamber(or equivalent for shotgun/secondary) and from there you just fit whatever works with gun's base stats.

>frame parts

There's a selection of frames that aren't boss drops, actually. Harrow is acquired half from drops half from defections, Oberon is entirely an eximus drop, Ash drops from manics, Octavia is acquired from certain missions. Also there are frames you can only get from clan research.

Sell extra parts btw. They're a good source of credits before you can get to index

And yes, the writing is stupid in many places. Steve's a blithering moron half the time.

>>15043926

>didn't knew this from the start

>>15044124

>Scott in particular seems to get personally offended at the notion that Warframe isn't some super difficult meme game and people can and do effortlessly mow through entire legions of enemies.

I thought that was the whole point of being a space ninja, it would be like DMC being patched to always make the player struggle with the enemies regardless of how skillful they become, that's something that I didn't like about Axiom Verge, during the endgame you still can't just breeze through early areas because your arsenal is not even close to an upgrade of the starting gear.

>>15044128

>why are there so many different currencies what the fuck?

Feature creep and lack of foresight; veterans have so much of some of the old resources that they'd be able to build anything new added to the game instantly, so DE occasionally adds new ones to force an even playing field and encourage retarded whales to spend real money to skip the grind

>why are there only 2 warframe slots?

Every F2P has something painful for people not planning on spending money, and slots is Warframe's. You can get a new Warframe slot for 20 platinum, and 2 weapon slots per 12 platinum. I recommend using your starting 50 platinum on a Warframe slot and two sets of weapon slots. You can get more platinum either with real money I highly recommend not spending money unless you get preferably a 75% discount, or 50% at the very minimum or by trading with other players. Once you get established and can start farming relics, you'll be able to open them and sell items you don't want/need to other players.

>is there some way I can put it into a wider third person or first person, or do I just have to get good at over the shoulder?

You're stuck with OtS, unfortunately. You can raise the FoV in the options menu but that's it.

>whats the best way to get plat? I sold some endo statues but I already leveled my third frame and need more slots again

Selling prime parts and rivens. You can use warframe.market (3rd party website) to make trading easier.

>wtf is the difference between normal and prime?

Primes are flat upgrades that usually get released 1-2 years after the original, but were originally very difficult to obtain. With the new relic system they're pretty reasonable to acquire, so you should try getting that version if there's a frame you like. The catch is that if the relics they come from are vaulted, you'll have to buy the parts off other players with plat.

>why do some most of the warframes make my peepee hard?

Because you have a clang fetish

>what even am I doing with weapon modding, I feel like just pumping in elemental damage is working but I doubt its so simple and there is probably a meta I am ignorant of

The optimal builds vary from weapon to weapon, but the usual meta is to put two elements on along with mods to boost raw damage (i.e Serration for rifles) and mods to enhance either crit or status depending on the weapon's strengths. Virtually every gun uses their raw damage mod (Serration/Hornet Strike/etc.), their main multishot mod (Split Chamber/Barrel Diffusion/etc.) and two element mods as a base. Corrosive (Toxin+Electric) is best against Grineer, Viral (Toxin+Frost) is best against basically anything else, and Magnetic (Cold+Electric) is situationally strong against Corpus.

>I keep getting some frame parts from strange places, like I have 7 harrow chassis but I thought the bosses dropped frame parts?

All of the vanilla frames' parts come from bosses, but later frames have their parts come from elsewhere. Harrow Chassis in particular drop from an enemy type so you'll be getting that quite a bit.

>is there anything I should know that I didnt mention?

Yes, run through Second Dream and War Within ASAP to unlock the focus system, since it's a long grind. Pick Zenurik, since it's the best focus school by far and when leveled gives you free energy out the ass. If you're desperate for credits, The Index (low risk for public groups, medium for organized groups) is the fastest credit farm. Make sure to get your weekly statue from Maroo since that's the best passive source of Endo. Lastly, mod upgrades are exponential in price; as a new player getting a bunch of mods to rank 6-7 is way more important than getting just one to 10.

and yes, Warframe has absolutely abysmal writing which can and should just be ignored.

>>15044148

Unfortunately Scott has a terminal case of being a fucking retard.

>>15044174

>mild

That's putting it lightly.

>>15044174

>>15044137

ok, didn't even try this solo remembering what a damage sponge it was at the polar star event

>>15043926

>he cares about the lore in warframe

That got undone long before space kids and stronk independent infested.

>>15044182

He was less spongey and more dynamic pre-Kubrow update, but a good crit weapon with the correct elemental can melt him easily, I used to kill him for the higher chances of batteries (orokin cells) back in the day.

>>15044137

hey thanks for answering me, this is incredibly helpful, didnt know about

>credits are what you use 99% of the time

there are credits and endo and plat and whatever you upgrade your lith relics with

havnt messed around with ducats yet, does barro sell anything important?

>>15044160

if primes dont have unuiqe abilities and are just numbers I wont worry too much

>clang

im not sure its that exactly…clang is decent though

>weekly statue

maybe I am just bad at the movement, but I cant seem to do the thing and actually get it, maybe its dead easy and you are about to bully me for being bad at video games, and I hope it is that and I am just doing it wrong tbh

thank you both for this advice, especially warframe.market

>>15044174

that pic is nice… but I feel I am looking at it a different way then I do warframes goddamn why is volts neck so sexy holy shit

BTW people, I have a solitary ghost clan but not all researches are done, only the basic ones, aside from Hema what are the most sought for? I mean, the idea is to allow temp clan members to get in and pick any clan tech stuff they want while using a 1% trade tax (if they trade in the dojo) to fill the vault for further research funding.

>>15044203

>maybe I am just bad at the movement, but I cant seem to do the thing and actually get it, maybe its dead easy and you are about to bully me for being bad at video games, and I hope it is that and I am just doing it wrong tbh

Depends on the tileset but so far I think I have only seen 3-4 variations, 2 orokin and 1 derelict, not sure about the 4th.

Shwaak/Shraksun/Juttni or Shwaak/Pencha/Juttni for your amp? Pencha's range sounds much better than the Shraksuns.

>>15044203

>endo

It's a bit of a cunt to farm and acquire in general, yeah, best bet is putting stars into statues and giving those to maroo. Or just sometimes getting rid of your extra unused mods since you get an absolute living breathing shitload of those(just be sure to leave 1-2 of them so you don't accidentally lose something important)

>void traces

They're only relevant for upgrading relics for "better" drop rates. Big fucking quotes there because the drop rates for silver and gold are still shit even on radiants.

>ducats

Baro is a primed disappointment for a reason because he generally sells shit that's fucking useless or can be acquired from the game normally except for some cosmetics and primed mods.

Prisma/wraith/other weapons he brings vary wildly from being a literal spit in your face(viper wraith) to the very best weapon in the game(supra vandal), so consult someone when he comes around.

>>15044285

>They admitted the Hema was a mistake

Did they really say that?

>>15044203

>maybe I am just bad at the movement

You are just bad at the movement, but it's the one thing in the game with an actual high skill ceiling. You'll get better with practice. Hell, the statue runs are actually a good way to improve. You don't get locked out if you fail, so just practice speedrunning to the start point and then try your best. Some tips to bear in mind:

>Bullet jumping is extremely important, and you can chain them by doing the input as you touch ground

>you can roll in mid-air to maintain momentum across a greater distance

>you can enter a slide in mid-air to gain more momentum, and if you touch the ground already in a slide you can instantly bullet jump forward again

>you bullet jump in the direction you're aiming

A basic combo to practice for a long-distance leap is

>bullet jump

>dodge roll forward in mid air (default is hold right click to aim and tap shift+w)

>transition into a slide

>tap spacebar to bullet jump again the instant your feet touch a solid surface

>>15044306

Yes, they flat out said it was a mistake, and then offhandedly said that they weren't going to change it because it'd be unfair to people who already researched it (despite the entire community wanting it changed). Scott is a retard, after all.

>>15043926

>Now

You're either new or stupid.

Is there any particular trick to finding rare loot containers? I've been trying to find a Corpus one for a while now and scouring all the rare spawn areas, using Thief's Wit, and roaming around with the scanner has yielded nothing.

I keep doing Syndicate missions to make these hunts at least halfway rewarding, I just want my Mantis fuselage already.

>>15043705

Jokes on you faggot I already manage to die before stacking enough damage. Other than nuking, is there any other reason to use Day form? Now take a look at the superior night one:

>sleep cc fast and good

>chains sleep with augment which is really good if you have 150+ range

>put someone to sleep, kill someone others are sleep, kill others, everyone is sleeping

>can reduce the damage taken

>can even slow enemies with augment

>can get shields every time you kill someone

>who needs hp when you they can't even deplete shield fuck ancients

at lower levels I juse use day Equinox and the slash damage itself is enough to kill enemies, no need to nuke. If I am in higher lvl missions I manage to die in 5 sec even if I bullet jump and roll in air like a madman so I don't see any reason not to use night as well.

>>15044126

Lephantis is really good for Cell farming, since you will use a lot of cells. I miss Draco for its 5-10 cells a run

>>15044948

That may be, but he rewards you more for playing selfishly. With maxed out duration on everything and playing offensively with a high crit weapon he can do shittons of damage. My opticor crit build is capable of one shotting a level 100 corrupted heavy gunner with covenant

>>15045090

yea he is really good at solo, using crit machine guns and killing anything is sight while getting infinite health and energy is almost OP tier, but he is still top at support right?

>>15044981

Day form can on top of nuking

>buff allies ability str

>increase dmg taken for enemies (which spreads with aug)

>runs faster when switched to

Relics for Limboo and orokin cells

The lith ones are a pain in the ass

>>15045396

Thats how I got alot of the Zephyr and mirage prime parts so wouldnt be surprised if RNJesus is punishing me now

>>15045186

>but he is still top at support right?

in theory, but in practice not really. He needs kills to support the team, so in reality everyone else is running around nuking the area and you can't give any energy or health to your team mates. His powers make him more of a jack of all trades. A little CC, a little damage boost, a little support.

>>15044850

It took me months to get the full Nidus set, you basically have to make it a secondary objective and focus on farming for other stuff.

>>15045477

I don't know man, whenever I play, I get more than enough kills anyway. And of course I don't choose short stuff like capture, exterminate etc.

>>15044285

I want to hit that frame in the face

>>15045972

>is it too soon to start farming for Primes?

Not really, but that mostly depends on your MR. Most worthwhile primes aside from frames are mastery locked fairly high. Where are you currently? MR?

>>15045972

You can try farming for primes as soon as possible if you got the gear, if you need some clan tech I can add you to the clan, well, I only have certain stuff researched though.

…that is, unless anyone else has a fully researched clan they can add you to.

>>15045972

it's never too soon to start farming. Prime frames basically just minor buffs to stats and that's really it. Not even worth farming sometimes. Prime weapons are really different and a lot better than their original version most of the time. I think Tiberon Prime is an overall gun and it's pretty good. Check wiki if you want to see some stats of the weapons. Also if you are new, I'd suggest you to delete that game, it's not even fun after a while. It feels like a chore now, the whole reason to play this thing is grind. I kind of hate this game now. I hope they balance the whole game, make weapons and frames fun and break all the meta end game stuff. Seriously, warframe is a waste of time.

>>15046001

5 currently

>>15046004

Sure, would be nice, do you just need the name in the game or..?

>>15046016

I'd keep going through the star chart then. The only primes you can get at that MR almost all the prime warframes, and the bo and orthos primes. I'd suggest getting either the bo or orthos prime and skip on most prime warframes until you find a frame you really like. Then work toward it's prime version.

>>15046026

I currently have the Frost Warframe which seemed pretty good so far

>>15046031

Frost is good, but his prime is vaulted, so I wouldn't recommend going after him as you'd need to just straight buy him with plat. I forgot to mention that, so you should take a look at all the vaulted frames first so you can narrow it down.

>>15046024

VanFanel1980mx

Hit me up whenever you can.

>>15045972

Do you have the relic module so you can make relics radiant, have you unlocked all of the spaces on the star chart?

If you answered no to either of these questions then it's too early for you to start farming primes.

Why is Rhino such a boring turd of a frame? It made me stop playing the game for a while. What are some actually fun frames to play? Something engaging and not totally mindless, but most of all fun.

>>15046167

Cause all his worthwhile abilities are just buffs and CC. Atlas and Nidus are pretty fun and active.

>>15046167

This >>15046204

Half of his abilities are just buffs and the rest are low damage CC. He's just extremely passive.

I also agree with anon about Atlas and Nidus. Atlas is hilarious to play, almost like you're playing battletoads, and Nidus at least has you mashing skills. Harrow was another one I liked since all of his skills are useful and Nova is pretty different as well.

>>15046167

rhino has some neat shit about his iron skin thing but it is kinda boring

I really like that you are just flat out immune to shit like knockdown and toxic, and I have this thing going where my taxon steals sheilds from enemies while I am safe under the iron skin so when it does go down I have a disgusting amount of purple sheilds, let me do missions way more dangerous then normal because of it and he leveled REALLY fast

course I recently picked up Excalibur holy shit I actually deal damage to things

I was probably just doing everything wrong before since I am new but excalibur seems OP compared to the other frames I tried to my untrained newb eyes

like exalted blade just kills everything in a couple hits, I couldnt kill a bersa at all before and now its literally effortless, and there is no reason not to use exalted blade in survival or defense since you can kill fast enough that the energy drops keep you going

>>15046279

With proper builds, rhino is essentially immortal during any content, and excalibur can kill anything but bosses, hence why they are good starter frames. Also considering you seem to like excal and rhino, I'd recommend you go get yourself valkyr. She's basically the two combined. She drops from Alad V.

>>15046296

>rhino is essentially immortal

No.

No, no, no, no.

Rhino's survivability is absolute rat's ass outside of simulacrum in actual high level content.

If you want to recommend someone a noob-friendly immortal-ass frame that the person is p much guaranteed to get - recommend Oberon. He can be built into literal immortality with zero to none effort while still retaining his 4 in more than functional state.

>>15046316

>Oberon can't

Yes, Oberon can.

Rage, Hunter Adrenaline, Quick Thinking, Flow/Primed Flow.

Everything else into strength, press 2 and 3 in rapid succession, be amazed at how you can't fucking die since you both outregenerate your damage and out-energy the drain that QT imposes on you.

You cannot be oneshot at any point in time and the only way to die is to quite literally stand in front of multiple gunners/techs for a solid minute.

>>15046338

Broberon is great, hallowed grownd can neutralise ANY status effect and heal at close to trin levels and bring back squadmates from the dead and all that only needs 1 forma on prime.

>>15043926

Warframe suits were already a infection of sorts, going back to Dark Sector

>>15047019

I still haven't gotten Khora systems, is the only missing piece for me, just recently got Zephyr Prime's main BP which I needed to craft her, components will be cooked by tomorrow and then 3 days of waiting, I'll run out of cells again.

>>15043106

wish I didn't have to do my least favorite mission types to get axi relics

>>15047424

anywhere from 20p to 50p depending on seller, anymore than that tell him to eat shit

>>15047591

>mods that aren't even better than stock unless used in a set

>that cost 16 points each

>with a polarity only one frame and one weapon can use

>power creep

are you for real?

>>15047931

eat my fucking dick, DE damage control nigger

it is powercreep because it gives flat out better bonuses than their primed counterparts

>hurr it takes more mod points

just forma more you absolute spastic

>>15047943

>just forma more you absolute spastic

You can't forma in an umbral polarity retard, so that's 48 fucking mod points down the drain out of the 60 or so you are given not including stance/aura, whenever using these mods. No matter how much you forma the other slots, it'll be a hard fucking stretch to fit in the five other mods that go in the build. And considering one of said umbral mods is for amor, any frame that doesn't need armor mods (which is a ton of them) isn't even getting a real benefit of using the mods. And for melee, primed pressure point is better and the other umbral mod is irrelevant because blood rush exists.

>>15048010

there is no primed intensify retard.

>>15048010

Oh look, he's retarded.

>>15047813

All the rivens on the market website go for at least 500p. Would throwing out such a low number not just make him ignore me?

>>15048049

people are absolutely delusional about the price of their rivens, asking price and buying price are very different things, if he ignores you then good you can find a better deal somewhere else. spam trade chat with "WTB unrolled arca sisco riven pm link and price" an youll get pms eventually. Or yknow whatever riven youre actually looking for.

>>15048018

It's shit though, isn't it? A max intensify can be formaed for 30% for 6. Umbral can't except on umbra so at best it'd be 4% for 6 if we could even get it at 6. It'd squeeze out some other mod due to eating a fuckton of points and make you weaker overall.

>>15047019

>I honestly have no idea why Excal is a starter frame

He got granddaddied in. He's basically the face of Warframe for the first three years of its life, though now that's slowly changing.

>>15049093

Yeah, now the shitty fucking kids are the face of warframe.

Why are you all still playing this shit game?

>>15047019

He was pretty shit on initial conception. Even though things are different now he's still the mario of warframe.

Also mag used to have to be crafted and has shifted wildly between broken overpowered and broken worthless over the years. Volt has always been a starter frame like Excalibur, but he's mostly stayed the same with the exception of his speedboost which didn't have a cap. During beta I used to paint myself with sonic colors and dash through the missions and reach the endgate before the other people could get through the first couple of rooms. IIRC it would end the mission for everyone the moment one person reached the end. I only stopped after I saw someone bitching on the warframe general about some sonic nigger speeding through their missions when they just wanted a comfy time killing dudes. Loki used to be the third available starting frame instead of Mag and he was remarkably more worthless then than he is now.

>>15049177

>Why are you all still playing this shit game?

Anon, everybody here knows it's shit.

We're all basically drug addicts who need our fix while bitching about our dealer.

>>15049275

It was Excal Mag Loki, actually, Volt replaced Loki.

Does anyone have that comparison of all the female warframes' body ratios?

Thanks in advance.

Is there a main discord channel or something where people talk or someshit? I'm not looking for anything in particular, I just tend to play solo most of the time.

Also I always end up fishing whenever I try to advance in this game, I hate enjoying fishing so much

>>15050679

Mag replaced Volt in update 7, Volt replaced loki in update 14. Original lineup was Excal, Volt, and Loki.

>>15051612

So feminism happened.

>>15051659

No, volt post-nerf/pre-rework was fucking shit and was a poor start in comparison to loki "lul invis forever" and exca "lul exalted blind crit spam".

And I know because I picked volt as a starter back when I found the game

>>15047019

Excal is a great starter frame because exalted blade lets noobs get around not understanding the ridiculous armor meta, and he's total dogshit for 'endgame'.

>>15043926

So im about to unlock ember, can someone tell me what the fuck warframes are now? am i a kid controling them or am i a mutated human?

>>15051899

Both. All the lore, old or new, is now canon

>>15051891

That's great and all, but you can't clear rooms with him nor is he better than a primary weapon for single target, and he has no buffs. He's meta for nothing. He's dogshit. Noobs love him though, as he seems really strong when you're new to the game. That's why you're confused.

>>15051899

you're a kid controlling a mutated human

>>15051922

>>15051912

Damn, sounds like shit tbh. Why would they make some retarded avatar shit out of it.

>>15051751

excalibro isn't dog shit for end game are you on heroin? stop with the endless bullshit already. no one except autists care about endless since it's completely pointless. the only real end game that exists is kuva floods and excalibro can handle himself there just fine

>>15052005

>excalibro isn't dog shit for end game

He's shit for eidolons and ESO which are the endgame. He's shit for kuva floods where all that matters is getting there quickly and dumping your potatochild and leaving quickly as he's not quick. You are now aware that you play like shit.

>>15052038

only a handful of frames are viable for hydro captures and my group was one of the only people to get a five hydro cap night before they made it easy. the shit i know about this broken ass game would blow your nigger faggot mind. shame i don't play it anymore. i still won't share it with you

>>15052053

>before they made it easy

They made it harder, which you'd know if you'd actually been doing 5x caps. Get better at lying.

>>15052074

they made it so your crit cat doesn't buff operators. i know this. we did it afterward the nerf. they still made it easier when lures don't despawn at sunrise meaning you have a whole ~30 seconds of time to get a five cap which is massive. it was easy, then they made it more challenging then they made it easy again

>he's never gotten a five cap

just admit you're a shitter on an easy game

>>15052038

Problem with excalibur is that he can breeze trought 80% of the game with no effort at all because of the obvious favoritism he has going since forever, meanwhile valkyr had the same braindead mechanics and she got the nerf-sticked so hard no one wants to play her anymore.

Talking about endgame is pointless since unless you're a tankframe or blow shit up way before they even notice you, you'll die from a dick to the face from some high level grinigger rocketeer or something like that.

>>15052191

>you'll die from a dick to the face from some high level grinigger rocketeer or something like that.

>not dying to a slash proc by a stray bullet or a toxic proc from someone sneezing at you.

>>15052415

>not dying from your own ember/saryn because they got hit by radiation

>>15052085

You're a scrub. Damage was never the issue with a 5x post-hydro.

Did they stealth nerf hydroid? His barrage doesn't hit into his puddle anymore it seems.

>Somehow managed to complete a mag prime set through nothing but other people's relics in pubs

Now if only I could pull off the same with frames that weren't shit, I'd be rich

>>15042814

>Harrow is not a support

>The one augment he even has is just an objective improvement to the crit buff

Feels pretty bad

Probably my favorite frame concept but instead of being a priest in gameplay, he's primarily a murder machine with tons of complicated upkeep

>>15054351

>>The one augment he even has is just an objective improvement to the crit buff

I didnt even know this was a thing becuase I only recently started playing again. They will regret giving me this

>>15054453

They are "infested golems". The infestation makes them unstable and unable to maintain their sanity. The tenno control them by soothing their pain and imposing their will upon them. So they are in essence golems, but are made from a human template.

>>15050361

>Sepfahn nikana

>built for crit with balanced speed and damage

>some guy selling a junk sepfahn riven

>trade a few of my extras for it

>roll it a few times

>68% increased crit with +infested and +~68% status chance

>Umbra comes out

>Sacrificial mods

>owo what's this? A better crit mod than True Steel?

>forma my sepfahn zaw 5 times

>88% base crit

>Blood Rush and Organ Shatter, of course

>1.5x combo multiplier gives me red crits

>Primed Fury, Berzerker for that attack speed

>Shattering Impact cause fuck armor

>grind down sortie-level bombards at 2x combo with ~10 hits

>takes all of 3 seconds when attack speed is ramped up

>no actual +damage mods of any kind except for Sac PP

Now I just need to stockpile Kuva so I can roll crit chance and crit dmg on my riven.

>>15054539

dont fall for the red numbers meme. cd/damage rivens will always out damge cc/cd rivens.

>>15054902

Yeah, if I get a +dmg roll with crit chance on it I'll take that over a crit chance/damage one. But status chance on a non-status zaw is just shit, so it's gotta be rerolled regardless.

>>15055417

Perfectly acceptable conditions, really. I'll have Saryn to play with halfway through it, and I need to farm some shit to sell for plat anyways, i'm out of tennobucks to spend on frame slots. I've got things I can do in the meantime.

>>15055657

DE must've reverse engineered the Desire Sensor from Monster Hunter.

>tfw I got Pyrana Prime's BP in 7 radshares but I've cracked 13 Neo V7's and still no barrel.

>>15055739

If you're still around, i've got one of those sitting around if you want it.

>want to do Eidolon hunts better but I hate snipers

What other guns can do enough damage to be viable against eidolons? My best bet right now is probably my heavily modded Ferrox but even it's damage is pretty meh against them.

>>15056155

Opticor maybe but your options are very limited without snipers.

>>15056155

I've taken a crit Paris Prime to Teralyst and it was tolerable, but aside from the Opticor or using only Harrow for your hunts >>15056168 is right.

>>15056209

Whoops, meant to tag >>15055739

>>15056209

You need to be able to do as much damage in as few shots as possible. Status procs don't work against it so status based weapons are out. Shotguns don't work that well since half their projectiles never seem to hit and the rest that do barely tickle due to armor so shotguns are out. Ideally you want a weapon that does exclusively radiation damage, otherwise you want as much base damage and crit chance/damage as possible. Outside of snipers there aren't many guns that do that well.

As for scaffold either Shraksun or Klebrik depending on what you want to do with it. Avoid Pencha if you're just using it to kill eidolons.

>>15056211

Well I just finished building Harrow and have been enjoying him so I might just try bringing him along with putting more forma into my opticor.

>>15056282

Opticor does more damage on paper but for whatever reason the Lanka just does more damage, maybe because it can deal exclusively radiation damage but I don't know. I used to use the opticor and forma'd it a few times but never got it to where I felt it was useful. Switching it out for the Lanka was a night and day difference. There's a reason why the gun is king for this shit.

>>15056259

Thank you anon, I think the Lanka fits that criteria then.

I will go 333 then. In truth I'd already bought the BP for the Klebrik, but I was reticent to actually build it if it wasn't ideal. Best I could find before were months old Leddit posts that weren't terribly informative.

>>15056155

Adding to this, I've not done Eidolons before, what sniper should I grab? And with what mods?

>>15056521

>sniper

Vectis, Rubico, Lanka in rising order of importance.

Did the gay middle-aged Spic ever come back to these threads?

>got in-game chat suspended for calling nezha a trap

?????

>>15056756

Yes, you can't do that anymore, you'll get the hammer if you try.

>>15056756

One of the chat mods is a delusional sjw

>>15056756

Did you not know that would happen?? Where have you been??

>>15056775

A delusional SJW that let furries shit up the chat for hours on end a few days ago.

>>15056756

He's not a trap, he's a femboy/twink.

Get your terminology right.

>>15056780

Not paying attention to region?

Also I've been out of the loop for months now, I don't follow every drama thing happening

>>15056824

He dresses/looks like a girl, therefore trap

Nobody cares what the gay community you're part of calls cute guys

>>15056850

>/looks like a girl

You're very easily convinced, anon.

>>15056876

They don't call nezha the hatsune miku frame for no reason, anon

>>15056949

>saryn nerfed

>is now a high-mantenance high-damage nuker that actually can do something other than mastery fodder grind on hydron

>that's a nerf

>>15056955

>Only relevant on onslaught

>not a nerf

And she only becomes worse in a team when literally any other damage-dealing frame comes along and kills things without popping spores.

>>15056967

>only relevant on onslaught

Except not really since you can use her to nuke anything and even AFK bosses.

She's basically a less fragile, more damage-oriented day-equinox now that doesn't need to leech damage from others to be good.

>>15056975

>afk bosses

*Assuming they don't have an invuln stage or leave the arena like half the bosses do now.

>Like equinox at all

Equinox's explosion actually hit everything. Miasma's gotten kicked in the dick and spores don't spread well enough to count that as a nuke. Again, she's only relevant in onslaught since that's the only space you're going to get a decent amount of enemies clustered together for spores and/or miasma to be worth anything.

Day Equinox puts saryn to shame simply for getting the same results with less effort.

>>15057001

>miasma's gotten kicked in the dick

And is now a mass stun rather than "durr spam"

>spores don't spread well enough

Maxed range spore can essentially cover an entire tile ahead, all you need to to is keep the toxic lash up and use something like ignis wraith and you're gucci on literally any generated map since you'll be clearing out things way ahead of where you are.

>>15057020

>And is now a mass stun rather than "durr spam"

It was a mass stun before too.

>Ignus

I wish I had that "saryn is good starter pack" image because it's still relevant. yeah I love having 250 range, popping a spore and seeing 9 infected. Really makes me feel like this was a buff instead of a nerf. Show me a cap where you have more than a handful of enemies infected on something other than onslaught then maybe I'll consider thinking you aren't full of shit.

>>15057074

yeah heard about this

apparently this cuck and its boyfriend got removed a while back but one has to wonder how these two managed to get a position like this in the first place, and how many more have gone unnoticed

>>15057103

Best fix would be to remove Danielle tbh. Sure those literal cocksuckers were eager to enforce the rule as their own, but "she" still gave the order.

>>15057074

Jesus christ fucking faggots always ruining others people fun

>Get a visit from papa stalker for the first time in like a fucking year

>Yet another broken war blueprint

t-thanks

>>15056155

no need for a weapon unless your chroma. you should stand in operator mode the whole fight for VS only popping into your frame for bless/covenant/shields.

Anons, is there some chart or something that helps with figuring out which weapons to get rid of so you don't have to keep buying weapon slots every time you build some more shit? I've been trying to make sure I'm making the weapons that build into other weapons first so that way I don't run out as fast, but it seems like I constantly make like 7 weapons at a time and then end up leaving 5 sitting at my workbench for days before finally deciding what to get rid of.

>>15057712

The simplest filter is to just get rid of anything you think is bad and don't plan on using that doesn't have annoying resource requirements to make

If you don't like something now, there's no reason not to trash it if you can just easily make another one, I don't think any meta changes will be enough to make you regret waiting just 12 hours to get something again

>>15057712

It's far from perfect, but you can look at the Riven Dispositions on the wiki since it's tied to popularity somewhat. Just keep in mind that all versions of one weapon share the same disposition. For example: Akstilleto has a faint disposition because Akstilleto Prime is used a lot.

>>15057962 Pic meant for

>>15056824

Even in animaton they make him look like a girl.

>>15057342

>Get visited by Stalker 2 missions in a row

>First time he drops an Argon

>Second time he drops another fucking dread blueprint

All I want is a war blueprint, I miss Dread being a rare drop.

>>15058382

I miss Hate and Despair being a drop, in my case I can't get the fucking war hilt and blades to make a new one.

>>15058403

They're not drops anymore?

>>15058337

I think he just looks fucking gay

>>15058427

>>15058425

>>15058403

Hate and Despair still drop from Shadow Stalker at a stupidly low chance in addition to the War parts

>Dread Blueprint 37.94%

>Despair Blueprint 2.765%

>Hate Blueprint 2.765%

>War Blueprint 2.765%

>Broken War Blueprint 2.765%

>Scimitar Engine Blueprint 1.005%

>Stalker Sigil 100%

>Orokin Cell

>Rare Resource from current planet

>Leaf Red Pigment

>>15058427

Conculysts drop the parts at a stupidly low rate.

My Equinox is almost done. For farming focus, I use Naramon Focus' Affinity Spike with with an eidolon lens on my melee, right?

>>15058427

In case of the blade and handles for broken war (which is a component of war) you need to farm conculysts, very low chance of dropping them.

>>15058522

He has never dropped them for me again, only Dread.

>>15058549

>eidolon lens of choice on frame

>eidolon lens of choice on melee

>no other weapons

Naramon will get you more xp than the others cause of the affinity boost with melee kills, but the general idea works for every school.

>>15058603

You'll get it eventually when you least expect it. I did somehow.

>>15058548

>>15058598

According to the official drop table there is a 1% chance for a Conculyst, and apparently Decaying Conculysts as well, to drop a War piece with that being split 50/50 between hilt or blade. Which you need two blades, one hilt, and the respective BP from Shadow Stalker to make a second Broken War which you can then use with some other crafting materials and the respective BP from Shadow Stalker to make War. Why do you need two blades to make half a sword when it would make more sense to craft a whole War from a blade and a Broken War? DE, that's why.

If you haven't done Second Dream yet then know you get Broken War with a free slot and catalyst pre-installed just for completing the quest and all this rock-bottom droprate farming bullshit only applies if you want War.

I should also note that if you farm Conculysts for War parts they also have a chance to drop the Vengeful Revenant stance which is the default stance of BW. They have a 15% chance to even drop a mod and a 2.78% chance of that mod being VR. Alternatively it also drops from the Arena on Sedna at a 0.25% rate.

>>15058598

Is War worth it at all? I don't use Broken War, so unless it's really worth making three more of the fucking things, I'm trashing it to free up a slot.

>>15058780

In my case I have to grind for that shit.

>>15058954

You don't need three Broken Wars. People just like making a second one since they'd rather not sacrifice the first since it's pre-potatoed. If you really don't care about BW then all you need is the War BP and 5 Nintain. As for whether it's worth it I couldn't say, but Mastery is Mastery afterall.

Any of you niggers have clans, any official /v/ clans?

I could use an invite.

>>15059046

>>15059028

Perhaps not. While you could make a fine Zaw for a CO build via Mewan, Peye/ Laka, Ekwana Jai 2 you would be lacking the stupid high base slash damage BW has.

>>15059081

Post IGN faggot.

>>15059046

https://semlar.com/zawcalc/5014

Lower base damage, better crit chance, status and ASPD.

>>15059081

Name? also, what do you need? my clan still hasn't completed all researches but at least you can get an Amprex BP and everything that was needed before it.

>>15059145

>>15059196

Im a retard, I forgot to post it: System255

>>15059246

Invite Sent.

>>15059246

>>15059256

Sent as well.

>A couple random relics that don't rotate out

>Journal entries which just drop from the ghouls

>Weapon blueprints which also just drop from the ghouls, that you only need one of each

>The worst set mods currently in the game

What is the purpose of this "event"

They could have just brought plague star back again if they wanted to keep people busy before tennocon

>>15059273

Plague Star seems to also come up sometimes, I wish I could get the Furax Wraith components, although I don't even know if it is really a good weapon overall.

So is there a time limit or someshit for the chat restriction for calling nezha a trap?

>>15059289

It's MR fodder

>>15059414

you get b&, don't know if it ever expires or if it is just in the channel you were saying it in.

>>15059447

It basically restricted all my chat tabs

>>15059414

I assume you can be permabanned.

>>15059447

A shame, is the only fist weapon that seemed interesting, I already have Venka Prime.

>>15059470

If it's any consolation, all the sparring weapons are rather nice.

Is there any point in crafting a Zaw if you have Galatine Prime?

>>15059721

Some of the setups can outrange the Gal. Won't hit as hard but you'll get some solid cleave

>>15059721

Zaw's can also be slotted with Arcanes and built to be more tailored to your own style.

>>15059815

second list needs some updating.

>>15059844

just do the sacrifice and get skiajati for free.

>>15059853

Is the skiatajati exactly the same in terms of stats?

>>15059853

>with the unique ability to turn its user invisible on finisher attacks

>>15059859

I think it's better, but even so nikana prime is vaulted and skiajati even comes with free slot and potato.

>>15059869

I already own it. Pretty good to know it's equivalent, if not better.

>>15059869

>>15059878

The Skiajati is worse than the Nikana Prime but it's close enough that it doesn't really matter.

>>15057074

>"This is volunteer work"

What a surprise, doing it for free. He's got nearly 6,000 hours played, check his profile.

>Danielle

Trannies can't help but fuck up everything they touch as they have demons inside them.

>>15059906

Well it has less base damage, 5% less crit and 0.1 less crit multiplier, but also has a higher attack speed and status chance.

>>15059915

It's less slash focused and I forgot the most important part, it had two shit polarities (for now).

>>15059815

I entirely forgot about the fucking Akjagara and sold both my skanas and akbolto, fuck. I have crafting to do again.

>>15061317

>no use in plains

You can kill an entire Grineer Encampment without alerting them, then stroll in and loot the place without ugly clones raining all around.

Bladestorm also puts Vombalysts in Spectral form without killing them, filling lures is fast as fuck

>no use in eidolons

You can switch teleport to one of the upper sinovias and then quick melee him with a fast weapon and Shattering impact while staying on top of his hitbox AND outside of his stomping radius.

Also, his 1 augment can strip 70% armour. Bring Corrosive projection for 94% armour corrosion. There: no need to faf about with Shattering impact, your team can still double dip on rad damage and all you gotta do is press 1 every now and then.

>no use in onslaught

Bladestorm for crowds (remember to go invisible before, with a nice build, each mark costs you 2 energy or less).

Also: Covert Lethality + Lethal Teleport.

Late-Onslaught is very Eximus heavy: even if you kill hundreds of dudes, if you're not killing enough eximus you WILL fall behind in Efficiency and the mission will end.

CL + LT = press 3 and it dies. Eximus aren't frequent enough to trigger the spam-detector (just keep alternating between 3 and 4).

It's a bit niche, yeah. I like him a lot though. He's an actual Space Ninja, while Excal was a Space Samurai.

>>15060598

Umbral Intensify at 9 and Vitality at 5-6 are just enough to have a good combo, fiber is shit.

>>15062113

>fiber is shit

>on Inaros

You know how fucking fucked armor calculation is for higher level enemies? It's equally fucking fucked for Warframes.

Especially on Inaros, those 675 armor effectively double to 1350 armor. That's means you only take 18% of all damage hitting you. It's fucking ridiculous.

A "normal" frame hovers at 300 armor, a 50% damage reduction.

Your typical armour build puts you at 600 armor, a 33% damage reduction.

Couple that with Inaros giant Health pool and he is downright immortal.

Even when you stick your head inside a nully bubble, the extra armour is returned as HP that you might have lost. Kill the bubble faggot, press 1 and then hold 4 to go back to being a fucking KANG.

They fucked up when they created Inaros and I'm all the more happy with it until they nerf him.

>>15062136

Well, in most cases I think Steel Fiber is better, what I mean anyway is that you just need 2 umbral mods to get a decent setup without leaving empty slots.

>>15062249

Yeah, if he doesn't need strength he would be better off with UV and UF.

So Harpak, MR fodder or potentially good?

>>15062317

Zenurik Energy Dash?

>>15062393

How much time?

>>15062363

Potentially Hilarious.

Instakills on some maps, especially with Ivara's Zip Line.

MR Fodder.

>>15062435

Nah, I'm a Madurai guy. I like shitting out nukes from the palm of my hands.

>>15062393

>1:50h on the same mission

>no crashes

Wow.

>>15062555

>Survavability

>on Nehza

why? Just max PowerStrength for a crappy Rhino Shield that keeps you alive and duration/Efficiency so you can shit out fire for days.

>>15062736

No, I mean shit liek that Steelfiber.

What the fuck is it doing there?

Think about it: when your Halo is up, Steel fiber does jackshit.

When it's not, it grants you 192.5 Armour.

That means you go from 36% damage mitigation to 53%. That's a 17% diference that costs you 13 energy (14 once you fully max it).

Seems like a lot? Then look at your HP. 225HP. When it comes to EHP:

>With Steel Fiber: 478 EHP

>Without Steel Fiber: 351 EHP

That's 127 extra HP, costing you 13 Energy. Vitality would work better for you. Vigor would help more too (more balanced, less drain-heavy).

>>15062782

Halo uses Fiber to calculate its resistance.

>>15062797

Ah, I see. I usually don't play with the Halo.

The best you can aparently is 8252.63 HP for it.

It's quite tanky, compared to some other frames but I don't play Nezha to tank.

But that 285% power strength really look great on his firewalker.

>>15062831

>Go into a pub fissure

>Game gets stuck on the loading screen

>Try to wait it out

>It never loads

>Can see everyone else make fun of me for not playing the game while they extract

I hate using a shitty laptop

>>15062856

>doing sortie on potato laptop

>sortie is spy

>takes like 7 minute to load level

>AB already hacked when i get in

>C gets hacked as im going through the level

>head right to extraction

>next sortie is rescue

>more 7 minute loading

>load in right at extraction

>5 second mission time

>get riven for my troubles

sometime using a potato is alright

>>15062856

>hunting Eidolons with 4pubs

>get the first one, move to the next

>dude goes AFK in the middle of the fight

>another dude says "fuck it" and DCs

>me and final dude give up and go back to collect what we got from the first eidolon at least

>AFK dude is still not moving, have to trigger the countdown

>countdown reaches 0, mission doesn't end

>AFK wakes up, runs to the extraction door and stays put right at the entrance

>game still won't end despite the timer having ended

>even exit and come back inside

>final dude says fuck it, DCs

>hang around for a few more minutes

>end up giving up as well

Why do people sign up for Eidolon hunts when they don't have the time?

Why do people go AFK when playing multiplayer games instead of just DCing like they should?

Why are Plains this buggy that the mission won't end despite the timer being up with half the squad waiting?

>>15044413

You doin radshares?

>>15062843

There is an overspecialized build that uses Health Conversion on top to maximize Halo's armor (and your own basically since damage to the halo doesn't consume stacks), the problem is the scarcity of health orbs when there is no Nekros or Oberon AND the fact that you have to go out of your way to take enough damage to consume 3 health orbs before recasting Halo.

>>15062974

and i forgot to hide my username, well you can insult me directly for my autism now

>Sold all my oberon and harrow parts yesterday, went from over 200 thousand credits to over 500

>Did nothing other than max rank an augment mod but now I have just over 30 thousand

What the fuck, are augments actually that expensive to upgrade

>>15062977

Nothing will ever be as funny as finding out the Nezhaposter was a 40-year-old spic, so why even bother

>>15062879

Nope, probably should but ive been lazy and just hop into a pub fissure once I get a relic or two.

>>15063012

jesus christ

>>15063003

>300k credits

>considered a lot

Just you wait until you get to Prime mods

>>15063067

Meh, is the internet, sometimes you just mess up.

>>15063089

It's a lot to me, index is one of the most annoying fucking things in the game

>>15063150

Start cheezing

>>15063136

>look at posts

>he plays Nezha

Noah pls, you've embarrassed yourself enough

>>15063136

why do you keep rottenredditoring yourself

you're old enough to be a father to teenagers but you post on tuvan mathematics networks about how cute a male character in a video game is

>>15063194

Doing what now?

>>15063223

Back when Overwatch had threads around here, you had 3 types of posters:

>folks who didn't like it

>folks who liked it

>actual fucking redditors shilling it for free because they made it part of their identity

the most infamous one was called "rottenredditor".

Pretty sure someone has the screencaps, so hang around to read them.

I like overwatch as a fun timewaster here and there, but there's some seriously fucked up people that made their game part of their life.

>>15063150

>Doing the index outside of Nidus missions

>For credits

Just play high level star chart missions and do the daily sortie, you will have plenty of credits to steadily level up mods. It only really drains when you either build a lot of stuff or start trying to max primed mods.

>>15063349

Looks like empty magazines or Penta grenades that got their physics fucked

>>15063307

>you will have plenty of credits

>without grinding index

No. Whenever I get a free credit booster I grind up 20M credits which only lasts a few weeks.

>>15059028

>>15063498

What do you even spend it on? I am reguarly buying blueprints, upgrading mods and researching everything in a solo clan and i've never had a big problem with them. If I run out then I just do some high level missions and im good to go again.

The only thing that really burns through credits in a non sustainable way is transmutation addiction.

>>15063664

To be fair, when I was new I also struggled with credits and fusion cores (I'm from before endo) just trying to level all my warframe corrupted mods.

>>15063527

>posting shy

Disgusting.

>Cracked like 15 radiant relics and still haven't got the last limbob prime part

>They're not showing up in the bounty rotation anymore

Guess I'll just wait a couple weeks for the prices to stabilize

>>15064965

What fucking mode gets you THAT many resources?

>>15065149

I assume he stayed an hour or more in ODS.

>>15065167

>this is bullshit, in 90 fucking minutes

I actually read this part earlier, but spaced out on it in my reply.

>Internet goes out for a minute a handful of waves into an onslaught run

>Every fucking time

>Have to just run out the efficiency by myself and leave

This piece of shit mode doesn't even give any consistent rewards, fuck this

>>15061580

Please don't give placebo advice, seeking shuriken is a good mod but it does not work on eidolons.

>>15065548

to remove eidolon armors you use gunblade with the shattering impact mod, i think sarpa is better at doing that, but the point is that removing armor to eidolon is not really worth because if you remove armor you remove the radiation damage multiplier as well

>>15065643

And when that happens people will begin blaming you for not bringing a meta frame to deal enough damage, fuck anything that is not Chroma, Volt, Rhino or Trinity (for the heals.)

>>15065667

when poe first dropped titania was really good for eidolons, but then digital turdxtremes nerfed her the harder they could to make her unusable for eidolons.

>>15065643

It has to be Sarpa since you need Impact damage. The Redeemer does pure Blast with a chance for an Impact proc.

Also you do not strip the Eidolon's armor completely. It takes 34 hits of SI to strip all its armor so you hit it 33 times to reduce its damage reduction as low as possible while still retaining the Radiation damage bonus. This can be accomplished with any melee that does Impact damage, but the Sarpa is used since it shoots five bullets per attack so you can strip 30 points of armor with just six attacks then use three normal attacks. Be warned that if you're not the host you won't know if you fucked up and stripped all the armor.

>>15065709

>>15065667

is excal umbra viable for eidolons?

>>15065819

>Excal Umbra viable on eidolons

In the sense that he can kill them? Yes. But any frame can bring a tricked out Lanka or Vectis Prime and do the same. The frame itself doesn't do much Chromatic Blade modded for radiation is just ok-tier at best, and his passive is actually a detriment since it means you can't go potato form to dodge incoming damage to your warframe.

"Meta" eidolon frames that I've seen used frequently and with good results are Trinity, Volt, Rhino, Chroma, Harrow and Ivara. Harrow/Rhino/Chroma provide big damage boosts, and in the case of Harrow a squad-wide invuln with his 4 to absorb the huge magnetic waves it releases once you pop an elbow or knee. Trinity is damage reduction, healing and energy gain or potentially high damage if you get a Trin who knows how to self-damage kill things with Link. Volt provides damage and cover from incoming attacks with his shields, and Ivara is a pure damage frame as her 4 - properly modded and buffed - can easily one-shot a weak point.

>>15065635

Grats anon. My clan has multiple rank 24's and 25's 23's and 24's at the time the Hema was released as well as a few Excal Prime founders who still play regularly, and it still took us a clan downgrade from Moon to Mountain and about 4 months to finish off those damn samples. Granted, less than half the clan plays with any regularity, but we still had a lot of people sitting on thousands of samples who donated 90% of what they had and it barely made a fucking dent. I really wish the shitters on the official forums would stop complaining about having "gluts" of resources, cause then DE gets it in their head that something like original Vauban Prime or the Hema or Sibear are good ideas.

>>15065975

>and his passive is actually a detriment since it means you can't go potato form to dodge incoming damage to your warframe.

fixed

>>15065975

> if you get a Trin who knows how to self-damage kill things with Link

nerfed, you can no longer transfer self-damage to enemies.

>>15066136

Fucking ESO claims another victim I guess. God damn that mode.

>>15066355

Every frame capable of doing that actually, Nidus and some other I can't remember right now, DE even addressed them as indirect nerfs.

>get Gara

>havent played since she was introduced

>assumed she was still shit like everyone says

>head to Hydron to start leveling

>spamming 1 for quick affinity

>start using 4 to group up enemies

>realize 1 breaks 4

>realize everything dies around me when it does

Breddy gud frame feels like frost but more offensive

>>15066355

I hate EOS so fucking god damn much. Any good frame gets the nerf thanks to that mode. Retarded formites eat it up too because muh radiants and muh founder lato gun

I haven't played since space mom left me for a black man

What happened to slash procs since then?

>>15066761

Nothing yet, Damage 2.5 was scrapped, Damage 3.0 is on the horizon, also, melee is going to get a massive nerf.

>>15066763

>He doesn't just make a cataclysm venndiagram

Why are there so many brainlets?

>>15066434

>the "Gara is shit" meme

Don't buy into anon. With just max rank Intensify you can put a 90% dmg reduction shield on yourself, your sentinel/pet, your allies, and even the defense objective/extractor etc. that can then be refreshed just by hitting your 4. You can also use your 3 and 4 to stack dmg on to your 2. This dmg stacks infinitely. I've had ticks of over 30k on enemies during a longer survival, and I wasn't even trying to actively stack it. I just added to it each time I needed to refresh the duration with my 4.

Stand outside of your 4 and break it with your 1 to add the dmg from your 4's explosion to your shield. Damage type is determined by whether it's a short (puncture) or long (slash) press.

She's a very strong, very versatile frame. I imagine they'll nerf her detonation dmg on her 4 soon though, since I've seen people 4-manning ESO using a high power str nuke-build Gara.

>>15065643

I didn't say anything about shattering impact though, I said Seeking Shuriken won't do anything.

>>15063664

I burned about 10-20M buying all blueprints in the game before my clan fell apart, but I mostly spend it on primed mod upgrades, trading for legendaries, and transmutes. Credits are easy to get via index so blowing a bunch to make a bunch of plat is fine by me.

>>15065975

>ivara can one shot Eidolon weak points with her 4

Seriously? I haven't used her much but it always seemed pretty crappy to me, how do you build it?

>>15066434

>People say Gara is shit

How the fuck does anyone think she is weak, she seemed like one of the strongest frames when I started playing again and saw her. Her near permanent 90% damage reduction which also doubles as a infinitely scaling damage aura that can easily shread high level enemies in seconds was already good but then the massive AOE damage she does with her 4 plus the CC from her 3 makes her great. I guess she doesn't one shot level 200 enemies instantly but the fact she is almost completely unkillable is enough to make her pretty good anyway.

>>15067719

Gara has had a bumpy ride in her short time. Started off crap with her wall being shit, then wall was too OP, then it got nerfed and sucked again, and now she's generally balanced. And her 90% reduction is really nothing special, mesa and many other frames have similar stuff and can also do other crazy shit. Gara just has a wall.

>>15065975

thanks man

>>15067745

>nothing special

I disagree. Now Gara, Mesa and Trinity all have the same-ish tank ability, but are geared for different mission tipes. Gara's wall on defense missions can be very usefull. While Mesa's peacemaker is good at killing (but energy expensive) and Trinity is only really good at defending herself and buffing her allies. Between those 3, gara is the best defender

Speaking of Gara, everybody talks about Nezha but why does nobody talk about Gara obviously being a tranny.

>>15067955

>not doing defense with a speed nova and Mesa just to get them over with as quick as possible

>>15066761

understand the usage of "space mom" is heavily projected from the underage shitters that infest this game

>>15069574

Just trade.

>>15070021

trade what though?

>>15070091

(Riven) mods.

Prime parts.

See what people are seeking to buy.

>>15069352

In my time of playing zephyr I havent found any logic to her tornadoes except that it targets enemies 90% of the time. They could be out of line of sight or not and im pretty sure it prefers enemies in line of sight/closer to you.

Oh yea and you can steer the nearest tornadoe by aiming (zooming).

Does getting focus increase my mastery rank?

>>15070731

No. The only things that count are warframes and warframe accessories (weapons and shit) as well as clearing out your star chart.

>>15070750

That sucks.

>New Harrow aug makes him a bit better at support

Not ideal, but neat

>>15071275

No it doesnt. Its sacrificing a mod slot that could be going towards Harrow being more combat effective for more energy, which you shouldnt need if you're already killing everything, and less damage, which you shouldnt need if you're already killing everything. You'd be better off with an actual trin for that role rather than trying to make Harrow a slightly more combat effective budget trin.

>>15071436

>Mod that makes him a better support doesn't make him a better support because it makes him worse at dps

wew

>>15071500

Yeah I know it sounds fucking insane but Harrows main draw is

>use shield to enhance for penance

>kill for energy

Using the augment will make one or both of those less effective an in exchange for a differant kind of support that is offered more effectively by other frames. Yes true that it does add support on paper but really you're getting the same support as chopping off your leg to use a prosthetic

>>15071548

Anon, stop being retarded. The problem isn't that you'll lose out on the ability to kill dudes. One mod slot and 9 points isn't going break harrow, he's not a frame that requires a very specific build to be effective. At worst you are marginally less efficient at what you do but you'll still be well within tolerance.

The problem with the mod is that it's shit.

>Allies in range take 40% less damage while channeling Thurible and grant 0.5 additional Energy charge whenever damaged.

>40% less damage while channeling Thurible

>while channeling

I don't know how you guys play harrow, but I'm never channeling more than a few seconds every minute or so. If it were active while thurible was active it would definitely be worth taking, but as it is right now it's so brief and infrequent that it wouldn't even be worth putting in an exilus slot.

>>15071677

The extra energy might be nice I guess, but your team shouldn't be out getting themselves punched in the face. Your standard thurible should be more than enough.

>>15071677

>One mod slot and 9 points isn't going break harrow, he's not a frame that requires a very specific build to be effective. At worst you are marginally less efficient at what you do but you'll still be well within tolerance.

Bitch the covenant mod already made fucked mod real estate

>>15071762

I don't take the covenant mod on a party build. I found that mod was more of a headache to use than it was worth since I was always fighting pubs for headshots. There's a few maps that it works well on, where there's more than enough dudes to go around, but I don't typically build for that when most of the time that isn't the case. It's also great for solo, small teams, or highly coordinated teams that don't mind you hogging all the heads for a while, but in solo or small teams you have even less reason to take the new mod anyways. That and I'm stuck with pubs most of the time as it is.

>>15071826

>I don't take the covenant mod on a party build. I found that mod was more of a headache to use than it was worth since I was always fighting pubs for headshots

Yeah I could see how you wouldnt be able to see the problem if you're bad at Harrow. I suggest playing an easier frame like Ember or just going full healslut with Trinity since you seem so easy for your teammates to overpower and fuck anyway.

>>15072172

>"I just cant git gud all these cocks are stretching me out!"

None of that shit actually happens if you're playing against enemies who are about level 40. Hell I just did several rounds of Hydron for the void fissure filled with easy kill shitterframes and I still managed to keep my covenant at above 60 seconds of remaining time. Dont bitch at me becuase you dont have enough gamesense to know WHEN to pop your shit and cant kill quickly enough to take advantage of the mod. All you need to do is distance yourself from your teammates enough to take their cock out of your ass, chain and shoot a crowd of enemies. If thats too much for you, you're better off just mashing EV as trin

>>15072418

Anon I couldn't say who is right or wrong, but I will say the guy you're arguing with stinks of Reddit.

>>15072546

You're missing a few there friendo.

Assassinations, Defection, Hijack, Sabotage, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PLAINS OF EIDOLON, as well as the index and Rathuum but I will forgive you if you don't count those. Plus a few other unique pieces of shit on Eris barely worth mentioning but I'm still going to nevertheless just to piss you off.

Then factor in the terrible hitboxes of the infested and how the shit is overkill for them anyway. And how for shit like mobile defense you'll have less room to roam and will likely going to be touching butts with team mates whether you want to or not; where going out on your own makes you about as useful as your average limbo. But you're too busy fellating yourself over the big red numbers you're getting on garbage to realize your mod is a redundant waste of space most of the time.

The rest of your post was just more of the same soylent infused, snarky condescension we'd expect out of reddit so it's not even worth addressing.

>>15072633

>>15072621

>claiming someone else is from reddit while meme spacing

Alright, lemme just drop the "snarky condescension" that you're so asshurt about and level with you. The thing with headshots and shit is not only applicable to the augment, but to Harrow himself. That is why Harrow is not a support frame. He may have been intended as a support frame, but if you play as him as such, you're gonna get fucked. On the flipside, if you play him as a murdermachine who happens to help his teammates when they are around, he's very effective at that. Your team is gonna be much happier with the buffs they happen to get from you playing "selfishly"than trying to be trinity or Oberon and failing. Thats the problem with the Thurible augment is that ultimately it detracts from that, taking up mod real estate that could go to making your buffs last longer, or making them stronger while only providing a bandaid to that playstyle I mentioned earlier. Yes, you COULD try sticking by your team to replenish their energy but your energy returns are gonna be absolute dogshit becuase chances are you arent gonna get nearly as many headshots as you could be getting, and if you're wanting to do that, Trin is a hundred times better.

Why is the lex prime so good?

>>15072613

I'll third this.

>>15073368

>Lex Prime

Because it's basically the future version of the 1911. JMB built a weapon so good that it lasted thousands of years in active service.

>Harrow gets a new augment

>It's this worthless shit

>Gara still has no augments

>>15073810

Is gara even good?

>>15074521

Ah alright, thanks for the heads up. Always good to know which frames to avoid.

How the fuck do Tornado works? LoS does jack shit, they spawn behind me or away from whatever group of enemies I need to deal with.

>>15074818

ADS and they will move towards your reticle.

>>15075028

It seem so (from the wiki), still, what kind of logic makes them spawn out of my LoS?

>>15075085

There is no logic. They just spawn wherever. I just use them as fire and forget damage/CC.

>The only pyrana relic I need is the one with the common drop, but it's a Neo so it's annoying to farm and somehow I never picked up any of them

>It was in the ghoul bounties and I didn't notice

Fug

>>15075275

My problem is, they usually go wherever I don't want them to go, the least useful place if I might add.

>Playing infested salvage for the first time looking for relics since I never gave a shit about nidus

>In three runs, I got all three nidus parts, and got the relic I was looking for twice

Neat