12b739 No.15026734
So, how "decent" is good for a "non crazy expert" to get more or less 4-5 Max Act per battle in DMC4SE? I have to admit I can't stay in the air like the best players out there so I kind of try to have a more solid ground game, how about you people? do you play in a particular way even when is not trying to emulate the likes of Brea and other more refined players? I decided to start fresh in LDK difficulty and I am already getting most skills before finishing Mission 02.
Yes, DMC thread, since we are getting DMC5 is probably the time to have a few of these every now and then.
208289 No.15026748
>do you play in a particular way
I use Royal Guard and never style switch. Fight me.
12b739 No.15026767
>>15026740
>>15026749
I am hoping the art gets more abundant over time, she is growing on me but not for the good reasons.
>>15026748
Yeah, when it comes to Dante I can't do quick switches either so I have to alternate the styles with some pauses maybe, on the other hand I wanted to mod the game's music to put Devil Trigger as Nero's battle theme, sadly in vanilla DMC4 it doesn't loop properly and DMC4SE has its music files encrypted, you can use an alternate music loader but apparently it also doesn't support embedded loops on the files.
878ed4 No.15026788
>>15026780
>DMC
>On a Keyboard.
144593 No.15026791
Have any of you niggers considered that maybe Nico is another disguise like Trish/Gloria? Maybe it's a fucking trap, and no I am not suggesting that she's got a benis.
b52785 No.15026797
If you drew this skank in an attractive manner, would she just be Bayonetta?
12b739 No.15026798
>>15026780
Some people have reportedly said they can play with keyboard, I would be completely unable to do that though, in my case I have both a 360 and PS4 controller.
098818 No.15026806
>>15026734
Why is she holding the cigerette with the lit end inwards?
12b739 No.15026807
>>15026791
>>15026797
I don't think that's the case, I am kind curious about her role in the game's plot, to be fair she would be kind of adorkable for me if it weren't for the smoking, tattoos and dark nails.
319722 No.15026808
319722 No.15026814
>>15026808
>>15026780
Where'd my post go?
Did the Alacrity demon steal it away?
12b739 No.15026821
>>15026806
You are right, I can't imagine a safe way to safely put it on your mouth after that.
>>15026814
Did you post Bateman? looks like he left the thread.
6c6659 No.15026822
>>15026806
come closer, i tell you secret as to why, you see is bad drawing
de796b No.15026829
>>15026734
I didn't even think it was physically possible to make that character more fucking ugly. How does one draw this and think this character isn't disgusting?
6d6813 No.15026834
>>15026788
Not that its a feat or anything but I did beat dmc3 and 4 on a keyboard.
My friend was so much into dmc3 at the time he even beat bloody palace with Vergil on a keyboard.
12b739 No.15026837
>>15026829
Maybe that was the author's intent?
de796b No.15026865
>>15026837
Reverse image search shows it was posted on twitter, so probably not.
12b739 No.15026877
>>15026870
Next time read the title.
72574c No.15026888
>>15026870
third pic is B^U tier.
81e204 No.15026896
>>15026788
>>15026798
You just have to gitgud and not be a casual. I'm not good enough to play with the keyboard.
7c198a No.15026905
>>15026896
playing and getting good at dmc4 with a keyboard is going to be as difficult and effective as learning to ride a bike with one leg. You'd have a much easier and more enjoyable time with the right equipment.
319722 No.15026911
>>15026896
>>15026905
I'm more worried about handing it without a joystick of some sort. I'd definitely want to at least try it out with a keyboard.
H-haha. Please stop deleting shitposts, it's not hurting anyone. It's why a lot of us migrated from cuckchan all those years ago.
cd27d1 No.15026918
>>15026911
Banter is fine, but dubs spamming is not.
878ed4 No.15026932
>>15026896
Look I use Keyboard and mouse for most games but sometimes you just have to accept its a pile of shit for certain types of games. Such as fighting games, platformers and character action games.
7c198a No.15026936
>>15026932
but muh mouse control muhfugga
7c3887 No.15026947
>>15026829
shit source material + cal arts = abomination.
6d6813 No.15026953
>>15026932
How the fuck is keyboard bad for fighting games?
5976a9 No.15026957
>>15026932
>>15026905
>webm of keyboard combo beyond the level of anyone in this thread
>meanwhile high level pad players have to hold it back-to-front in order to hit the buttons fast enough
<keyboard is shit for these games just accept it
Some """people""" don't deserve good games.
878ed4 No.15026966
If you guys want to try an emulate a mutant that can play these games on keyboards all the power to you guys but don't come crying to me when your fingers fall off and you can't wank anymore.
5884d7 No.15026967
>>15026932
>KB is bad for fightan
Wrong, it's better than gamepad actually.
addd93 No.15026998
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>>15026734
It comes down to what you're trying to do and which character you're using. If you just want to get S ranks you don't even need to be that good, just exploit the AI and use the most overpowered attacks there are good videos on YT in how to do such a thing.
Now if you really want to get good and be flashy you have to learn how to jump cancel, there are not 2 ways about it. Once you've managed to stay in the air for more than 5 seconds then you need to practice character specific moves and combos.
With regards to Max Act you don't really need to do it with every attack but you should be consistent with it at certain attacks like high roller, streak and split
I embed a ChaserTech video, he has decent tutorials that cover the basics for Dante, Nero and Vergil
With Dante, the sky is the limit but for starters make Trickster your main style and practice combos with it by switching between Trickster and Sword Master then add another style, practice and then add another style. He will take a while
Donguri990 is the flashiest Dante/Vergil I've seen on YT
81e204 No.15027006
>>15026905
>>15026911
>>15026932
I see it as a fun, self-imposed challenge if you feel the need to take it to a higher level. I thought it would be fun to try it out for myself to see how far I could go, but I quickly realized I personally wasn't good enough to do it. If you want to use the keyboard go ahead, but don't feel like you have to play it that way only if you really wanted to should you go for it.
8d5656 No.15027008
>>15026932
I'm better at fighting games with a keyboard then I am with a controller.
6c6659 No.15027011
>>15026967
depending how you map it it's effectively a hitbox but save for super mega high level execution it kinda boils down to personal preference
7c198a No.15027012
>>15027008
-t. guy who uses the analog sticks instead of a d-pad
5884d7 No.15027060
>>15027012
Your thumbs and moving them independently is slower than using 4 fingers in each hand.
8d83bc No.15027539
>>15026806
>>15026821
>grab pencil with pointy side inwards
>put thumb in between middle and ring fingers
>use thumb to turn the cigarette around the index finger so that the tip faces outward
I thought it was pretty obvious
8d83bc No.15027544
>>15027539
>begin explanation using a pencil because it's what I've got in hand
>end up talking about cigarettes anyway
12b739 No.15027672
Welp, I finally finished Mission 02 in LDK after some weird problems with my PC, at least now I have almost all the abilities now, the advantage if having hordes of enemies is the amount of Proud Souls you get from each encounter.
7c198a No.15027684
>>15027060
d-pad is faster due to shorter travel time of the contact pad and a good d-pad (unlike what you're used to 360 pad shitter) is where it gets better. Now is where you say "muh hitbox." It's not a keyboard, it's a hitbox.
028af1 No.15030633
>>15026806
She faces the back of the hand/fingers to her mouth to smoke it. It's more convenient to shake off ashes, but it's still awkward.
5884d7 No.15030703
>>15027684
>d-pad is faster due to shorter travel time of the contact pad
No, it's not
It's about the same speed considering you're only using one finger on binds with around the same spacing as key prompts.
It's about the same travel time if not faster on a KB
>360 ad hominem
And just like that you lost all youd credibility
d92717 No.15030744
I actually wonder if the whole MVC:I debacle taught Capcom a lesson. Seems like they are going back and catering to their old fans, as well as being less jewish with their practices lately.
517d16 No.15030770
>>15026905
Holy fuck you're retarded
5884d7 No.15030798
>>15030744
I don't know man
DMC 5 presentation was pretty shit, Vergil looks like Donte and the Southerner I forgot the name of already is ugly and flat as a board to booth.
MW World also pissed off long time fans and REmake 2 is TPS maybe if they add a classsic mode that's actually good I'll let that pass since the game looks alright
This is anything but a return to form
At least they're somewhat better than they were before, at least Megaman is being actually acknowledged by the company now.
f65b91 No.15030819
>>15030798
>Vergil looks like Donte
>Vergil
d92717 No.15030821
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>>15030798
If you ignore the design portion of DMC5 it's basically everything we've been asking for down to the story details of Nero being taken under Dante's wing and working for Devil May Cry. Honestly, the only thing I'm worried about now is that I haven't seen a graphic for locking on.
RE2 isn't what we wanted, but it looks closer to 3.5 so I don't really hate it so far, and some of the moments genuinely look spooky for how generic zombies have become.
Can't speak on MHW as I haven't gotten around to playing the series.
All and all I'm hopeful. Not enough to get hype, but enough to give them some benefit of the doubt. Also, I don't know where I read it, but I believe there was also an interview where they said they wouldn't be focusing to much on the DLC with these new games, but that could be wrong or an outright lie considering SFV
650a0b No.15030827
>>15026905
<waah I have the finger dexterity of a senile WWII veteran
It's okay to be shit at games anon, you just have to admit it
If my autistic ass can beat DMD and HaH with keyboard I'm pretty sure anyone in this thread can if they put some fucking spine into it
f65b91 No.15030862
>>15030821
I'm really fucking pissed for them turning Morrison into a nigger.
I can kinda get behind it since he was never officially created by the original team but that still feels like stretching. I highly doubt they wanted him to be a nigger from the very start.
I'm okay with hobo Dante if it's intentional for him to look that old, the only design I do not like is the new mutt Nico, she looks like a cheap trailer trash whore, It feels like they were going for Cindy but only made her worse.
I so far prefer what the remake is doing over the original game, I like that it's actually dark and somewhat spooky, even the original was pretty bright.
5884d7 No.15030864
>>15030819
>Vergil
Nero
Fug, I need some sleep
be honest though
>>15030821
True, the combat, art design and music are really good, I just hope they don't rape the design of Trish and Lady, and actually feature them ingame.
>>15030821
>RE2 isn't what we wanted, but it looks closer to 3.5
True, still I wanted something that was REmake tier, but I don't think the industry in 2005 could pull something like that ever again, much less in 2018.
>Can't speak on MHW as I haven't gotten around to playing the series.
I'm waiting for the PC port, but like I said most core fans agree that it got pretty casualized.
I'll probably enjoy it more like a spiritual successor to Dragons Dogma than anything else honestly.
>I'm hopeful. Not enough to get hype, but enough to give them some benefit of the doubt.
Pretty much sums up my feelings, no hope for their fightans though.
>they said they wouldn't be focusing to much on the DLC with these new games
I know REmake 2 will retain all the original content including the bonus/extra ones without any DLC kikery, don't know about the other new ones.
I heard MHW DLC content microtransactions let's not pretend like they're anything else including the cosmetics on other Japanese games was decently handled though with the more obvious like skins/models being free and more superficial shit like gestures and logos.
268296 No.15030881
>>15030864
>I heard MHW DLC content microtransactions let's not pretend like they're anything else including the cosmetics on other Japanese games
You have to buy vouchers to change your character's appearence.
Considering we went from "All DLC is free, even cosmetics" to "Cosmetics cost more than the game and you need to buy vouchers to edit your savefile so you can fix your mistake of picking a dude" and having timed events because of the games as a service meme, MHW is a bloody disgrace for a Monster Hunter game.
d92717 No.15030899
>>15030862
… That's annoying, I didn't know they were bringing the anime into the canon and I sure didn't know that was Morrison. I still wonder if they have some sort of deal going on with Microsoft which would explain the sudden diversity in the game, as well as Nero looking like the Scalebound protagonist.
Also, I think the characters look the way they do in the face due to the mocap more than anything else. If you look and Dante's new face it looks almost exactly like his voice and mocap actors. I imagine Nico was just some chick that the developers thought looked "passable" and could do some voice and mocap acting, so they snatched her up for the job.
>>15030864
>I just hope they don't rape the design of Trish and Lady
I wouldn't hold out to much hope for that friend. See what I just posted about mocap.
and I wanted the same for RE2. REmake is really as good as the survival horror genre gets, still, it looks like they are keeping quite a few things close to RE2 gameplay aside, for instance the defense items make a return which gives me quite a bit of hope already.
cd27d1 No.15030923
>>15030862
I don't really mind it so much since it wasn't really established that he was a white character or a black one. The anime isn't canon, so I'm fine with the major redesign to Morrison. What I AM salty about is that this retcon's Patty.
5884d7 No.15030924
>>15030864
>*and more superficial shit like gestures and logos being paid
Insomnia is killing me
>>15030862
>I so far prefer what the remake is doing over the original game, I like that it's actually dark and somewhat spooky, even the original was pretty bright.
All I want right now from RE is a game where you have to escape from an Hive like evil lab.
I don't know what the first movie did so well but goddamn I just like the setting, from the squeaky clean white lab and office parts to the rusted industrial and computer parts of the complex.
Seriously, just give me a game where I have to go in and out of the complex and survive countless zombies and monsters in these detailed settings as a Gas Mask clad soldier ala Hunk.
I don't even know how many times I replayed the Redqueen/Hive maps in Zombies Master and Killing Floor.
>>15030881
>MHW is a bloody disgrace for a Monster Hunter game.
True, but I was comparing it to other modern games.
I'd rather not have shit like that but mainline Monster Hunter games were until now low cost games with high profit margins with assets from it's PS2 original release.
This game was done from scratch and with much more marketing.
>I wouldn't hold out to much hope for that friend
If they rape their designs I'm not touching it with a 10 foot pole
>Mocap
Nigger what kind of shitty excuse is that?
Isn't SoulCalibur mocap as well?
cd27d1 No.15030935
>>15030899
I mean Nico's design could just be intentionally flawed, like I get what they're going for with her. She's a greasy hick mechanic, who works on devil arms. Have you ever seen a mechanic? none of them ever look like Cidney. Ultimately what matters is gameplay and what DOES concern me is the lack of a visual lock on indicator, however we haven't seen ANY UI either, so that's probably why.
cd27d1 No.15030946
>>15030864
>Fug, I need some sleep
Or perhaps you were wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
85a83b No.15030954
>>15030924
>>15030924
>All I want right now from RE is a game where you have to escape from an Hive like evil lab.
You cant have that because those are not RE aesthetics at all, thats a fabrication of the movies much like everything else save for jill, carlos, racoon city and other things.
f65b91 No.15030958
>>15030864
Nero's design is great, it's the only new design I am completely fine with, sure I had a terrible reaction to it at first because I saw the same thing you did, all they did was give him a completely distinct look. He doesn't have that shitty crew-cut wannabe hair style Donte had, he just has a regular short hair.
If Donte was never a thing no one would be complaining about his new look.
Also I might be seeing things, but I think Nero is starting to look closer to his father in face structure, the way the eyes shape look pretty similar.
>I just hope they don't rape the design of Trish and Lady, and actually feature them ingame
Capcom can't into faces anymore anon, if they are in the game the best you can do is hope they look acceptable.
>>15030923
>What I AM salty about is that this retcon's Patty.
How? I don't remember much from the anime.
d92717 No.15030969
>>15030958
I think my biggest issue with Nero is the color choice in his clothes. The whole point of the blue and red was to make him easy to see in combat, same with Dante having a solid red jacket… though I suppose in Ninja Gaiden I didn't really have much trouble keeping track of Ryu so maybe it really doesn't matter that much.
cd27d1 No.15030974
>>15030958
Because the anime never existed in the official canon, therefore Patty never existed.
5884d7 No.15030989
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>>15030954
>those are not RE aesthetics at all
:^)
eadd7c No.15030997
>>15030958
>Nero's design is great,
kys faggot
85a83b No.15030999
>>15030989
Thanks for proving me right, since 4 doesnt fit at all with the rest of the series, and they lifted that scene directly from the movies.
024579 No.15031003
>>15030935
>Ultimately what matters is gameplay and what DOES concern me is the lack of a visual lock on indicator
If you watch the gameplay released and consider the moves being used there's almost certainly a hard lock on in the game. They show Nero using a basic Red Queen Combo in the cinematic trailer, and they also show him using High Roller in the other footage. I suppose they could have completely reconfigured the controls DmC style and given him a dedicated launch button, but it doesn't make much sense to port over the DMC4 moveset and then use a different control scheme.
d98773 No.15031048
Devil May Cry 5 will be playable by the public for the first time at Gamescom 2018 in Cologne, Germany, which runs from August 21 to August 25, Capcom announced during its latest edition of Capcom TV.
Maybe it will be good but that kike roastie single-handedly ruined E3 for me (sure, she's not as bad as Frida Kalo making out with Ellie but that shit was expected). Opinions seem to be torn on this but I loathe the art direction for this game, the one thing I'll say looked cool was the plant demon grill boss.
d26012 No.15031057
>>15030954
>thas nod re asthsthsit at all
>what is the entire final area of Resident Evil(1996)
024579 No.15031119
>>15031048
>I loathe the art direction for this game
I don't think it's that inconsistent with the direction the series has been going at all. DMC4 was certainly more realistic than 3, and DMC5 looks considerably more stylized than something like RE7 (the in-game footage, anyway, not the cinematics), despite its aspirations to photorealism.
I think one reason a lot of people feel it's too similar to DmC is that it featured a lot of grimy, urban environments in the trailer, which are a far cry from the demonic architecture of 1 and 3 or the heavenly environments from 4. Still, I feel like they're just playing it close to chest, showing early game levels like the strip club from DMC3 that lead up to wherever the bulk of the game takes place.
cd27d1 No.15031163
>>15031119
Yeah, I think it's reasonable to say that we need to see more of the game before we have a clear consensus. DMC3 and DMC4 also had these gothic arena's, I could see DMC5 given more color as more information of the game comes to pass.
Gene as an unlockable character would make my dick hard though
0eb4ad No.15031230
>>15026788
The fuck is with you anons?
I beat DMC3 on a keyboard never switching from the trickster style. Yes, I've even beat that one place where you need to accurately parkour under the ceiling, and if you fail - you start from the beginning.
I can't understand how people complain about using keyboards in vidya. I play everything with it, even the stuff I emulate (like Godhand or Armored Core series).
When I tried to use a gamepad for some games I was much worse at them and barely got used for it
0eb4ad No.15031240
>>15031230
>used to it
I really need to learn checking my posts before I post them
85a83b No.15031256
>>15031057
A rundown laboratory with a giant fishtank, shit fallling apart and a fucking jailcell.
Same with zero and 2 and 7.
The nicest lab weve seen is the antartic laboratory in code veronica, and it looks nothing like the hive of the movies.
c579d4 No.15031298
>>15031240
I'll use you anytime you want, my dear anon :^)
Things like having a beer together or showing eachother our smug collections.
024579 No.15031353
>>15031230
>Yes, I've even beat that one place where you need to accurately parkour under the ceiling
What, Mission 15? Trickster's the most consistent way to get through there by far. The hardest platforming in the game is probably Secret Mission 12.
>>15031256
>a giant fishtank
Isn't that more in the midgame, the part with Plant 42?
d98773 No.15031360
>>15031119
So far I'm not seeing the rule of cool aspect of the prequels, besides plant grill. There's that bootleg Daimon and those skinny things with two faces, dunno, I still have nightmares about that roastie.
We'll see. Maybe a lot of things can be changed and everything from here on out will look cool but that was one damning first impression.
85a83b No.15031386
>>15031353
>Isn't that more in the midgame, the part with Plant 42?
For me all the underground sections of the spencer state are just lab.
0df326 No.15031393
>>15026734
someone should redesign her to make her not ugly
024579 No.15031453
>>15031360
Well that's the main reason I distinguished between the in-game footage and the cinematics, the models used in cutscenes are much more busy and overdesigned than I'd like, but the ones used in-game are cleaner and closer to what you'd expect from DMC4.
>So far I'm not seeing the rule of cool aspect of the prequels, besides plant grill.
The plant didn't wow me since I'm skeptical of how that will translate to a solid fight. I was more optimistic about the Beowulf knockoff, since that boss also has four wings and the only move shown is ripped straight from Beowulf.
If you want to overanalyze the shit out of the trailer it gets a little more worrisome, since distinguishing "in-game" and cutscene footage is pretty difficult. It's hard to tell if it's just clever editing or not but there seem to be moments where it transitions straight from combat to a canned bullet-time animation and right back into combat. It also seems likely that the bootleg Daimon fight is either going to feature some serious environmental destruction or have multiple phases or both.
d98773 No.15031533
>>15031393
You mean make her less ugh? Probably impossible to do it and leave her recognizable.
>>15031453
>overanalyze
Now that I look at it both bosses seem to have a shitload of eyeballs on their bodies. Wonder if that's gonna be a thing.
e2e412 No.15031669
>>15026932
>character action games
You are the epitome of faggotry
88ce80 No.15031694
>>15026896
jesus that hand, it's like when people pretend to hack shit on movies
0eb4ad No.15031707
>>15031393
Some anon tried and nothing really changed, he just uncovered more layers of jewess uggo
12b739 No.15031831
>>15030935
I think Nico may be what some Japanese refer as "busu-kawaii" google it up.
6c6659 No.15031846
>>15031533
>Probably impossible to do it and leave her recognizable.
lower the gumline, give her a less ratty haircut and you probably solved her biggest problem
024579 No.15031863
>>15031831
>google it up
The image results are all wall-eyed 3DPD, which does not stir my optimism for the character. I think a lot of the mystery will dissolve when they show whoever the hell did the face capture for that character, the DMC3 and 4 mocap actors were cute enough.
12b739 No.15031893
>>15031863
Well, in general is supposed to have a small charm in an otherwise weird look.
d98773 No.15031953
>>15031831
I think she's actually what Lovecraft refers as "soul-shattering horror".
Most of those busu-kawaii grills at least have something going for them, which isn't the case with this thing. Meanwhile this 5 star kosher meal makes the Handler from MonHun World look like a beauty queen but it's not just the looks, what little I heard of her just made me want to kill her.
c74fd3 No.15032006
>>15026932
What's your gamepad grip?
If not pic related, even with gamepad you're still using it incorrectly.
ec0f82 No.15032029
>>15032006
That looks uncomfortable and awkward as fuck. I'll stick to M+KB thanks.
024579 No.15032138
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>>15032006
Right-hand claw grips I think are uncommon since you'll hardly touch the right analog stick anyway, although I've seen a lot of left-hand claw grips in DMC4 for style-switching. I'll use a six-finger grip for sure, but I'll take slightly slower style switching over carpal tunnel.
c6fcb9 No.15032450
> fags can't into clawing
you fucking casuals clearly didn't play any of the older monster hunters if you can't even claw
3ce1a0 No.15032475
>>15032006
That looks fucking retarded. If you use a pad like like your a Jew.
024579 No.15032484
>>15032450
Why are you bringing up Monster Hunter in a thread about good action games?
705846 No.15032517
>>15032450
I played older monster hunters and I didn't claw. Instead, I just didn't move the camera as much.
de796b No.15032961
>>15032006
>not using the part of your thumb connecting to your hand for the thumbstick and your thumb for the buttons
Most of the time you don't really need precision control for the camera. Your grip looks way too awkward for an index finger.
492a7f No.15032978
>>15032006
Wait. People don't do that? That's how I've always held my controllers.
2dbef6 No.15044866
Where is the style switcher mod for HD?
2dbef6 No.15044876
>>15044873
Where do you think pic related came from?
4e0548 No.15044881
>>15044873
>2/10 effort for Dante's appearance
Sure tells you which games the artist played.
https://exhentai.org/g/181009/1f3471aed1/
b1c2bc No.15044892
DMC3 is really kicking my shit in. I was expecting to be half-decent since I managed to get through DMC1 and the combat is pretty similar, but I feel like I'm dying way more often than before. Maybe beating DMC2 killed a few of my brain cells.
215298 No.15044920
>>15044892
You ain't crazy enough.
In all honesty the game is kinda stiff, you gotta get used to it. If you're playing on PC use DDMK for HD collection or Style Switcher for vanilla
66f584 No.15044938
>>15030924
>All I want right now from RE is a game where you have to escape from an Hive like evil lab.
>I don't know what the first movie did so well but goddamn I just like the setting, from the squeaky clean white lab and office parts to the rusted industrial and computer parts of the complex.
>Seriously, just give me a game where I have to go in and out of the complex and survive countless zombies and monsters in these detailed settings as a Gas Mask clad soldier ala Hunk.
>I don't even know how many times I replayed the Redqueen/Hive maps in Zombies Master and Killing Floor.
I remember Killing Floor had a map where you go into the Hive and Zombie Panic source had a map where you had to escape form the Hive. People played the ZPS 24/7 and got tired of it though. The KF one I remember was spooky as fuck, but people rarely played it because it was closer to classic RE in terms of limited ammo and fighting zombies, than KF's "Mow down 200 zombies every round"
e5d73b No.15044941
Replaying all of these game for the umpteenth time has really got me thinking just what the hell happened during DMC2's development to make it so bland and just draining to play. It has some really great enemy designs, a pretty good soundtrack if not a little repetitive and best Dante design but not personality
So /v/ what the hell happened?
4e0548 No.15044984
>>15044941
Was a non-DMC title, with Lucia as the protagonist. Then it got tooled into DMC2 since DMC1 was such a surprise hit. Itsuno got brought in as director right at the tail end and he did his best, but it was still a complete mess. But, he did go "hey, let us try one more time with the team, like now we have an idea of what the game is supposed to be, alright?" and they started DMC3 immediately after.
So you know, basic Capcom executive meddling and greed. Business as usual.
>>15044938
>>15030924
Check out Underhell. Seriously, it's pretty much free.
e5d73b No.15044994
>>15044984
>Was a non-DMC title, with Lucia as the protagonist.
I have heard that but never found a source to it. Goddamn Capcom they'll make something like five different Resident Evil 4's before finally deciding which one to actually make but shove shit like DMC2 out the door. Chaos Legion a superior DMC2 and I really can see this mysterious third DMC5 character playing a lot like Sieg from Chaos Legion now.
0400d6 No.15045073
>>15026806
It's the patrician way of smoking.
Vapekids like you would never understand.
168818 No.15045108
16aabb No.15045127
Why did they go back to the shitty enemies after the triumph that was DMC3s enemy design? Temen ni gru is staffed by badass skeletons with scythes. Every other game has the dumb puppet demons.
a3b979 No.15045137
>>15045073
Where are the first three?
d98773 No.15045146
>>15045127
>the triumph that was DMC3s enemy design
Yeah, they really raised the bar.
55e42b No.15045148
>>15045073
Where's A B and C?
961caf No.15045149
>>15032006
>Second pic
THANKS PSP
7014f9 No.15045150
>>15045073
Smoking is for queers, it kills your lungs when you could just orally ingest shit.
66f584 No.15045155
>>15044984
That's not really what we mean by "Escape the Hive". The Hive is infested with zombies and mutants, not swat members trying to shut it down. Everyone in the Hive has been dead for god knows how long.
16aabb No.15045158
>>15045146
>when a fallen opens his arms his chest and arms make it look like a demonic face
Fuck I love that enemy design.
509d08 No.15045189
Nico is fucking shit, she doesn't hit the bar the other female heroins do.
I always wanted to see Kamiya's follow up to 1 he got fucked over by Capcom's producers the series would be in much better shape if he got to make at least two sequels. I was reading a bunch of interviews https://imgur.com/a/oygBNtj and it has become clear they really didn't know what they were doing when following up 3 and it shows with 4's weak scenario which was itself half complete. Sadly the interviews don't touch on the extremely troubled development of 4 the game is literally half complete.
I"ve talked to a bunch of other fans since the announcement of 5 the the number one reason to be excited for this game is that it has a budget and it won't be rushed, so this game actually has a chance to not be shit.
4bb4c5 No.15045192
>>15045127
If pic related is anything to go by it seems like some enemies from DMC3 are returning. The trailer also shows Nero throwing something that looks like an Assault or a Frost.
I actually preferred DMC4's enemies to 3's on the whole too, both aesthetically and gameplay wise. 4's Mephistos/Fausts can be kind of annoying to deal with at times but I never found myself rolling my eyes when having to fight any of that game's enemies unlike whenever a Fallen, Dullahan or Soul Eater appeared on screen in 3.
509d08 No.15045200
>>15044941
DMC 2 was not originally going to be a DMC title it was repurposed in the last 6-12 months and the original developers were completely incompetent.
Itsuno and the rest of Capcom had to salvage it but they didn't have enough time to save it. With V it will probably be retconned out of the timeline since no one likes it.
16aabb No.15045206
>>15045192
They looked like weird twig monsters in the trailer, at least to me. Let's hope we'll see some more gameplay soon.
c4d292 No.15045214
>>15045137
>>15045148
C, E, I. Sage for offtopic
ba002d No.15045217
>>15045192
>Dullahan appeares on screen
Those fuckers doing laps in the air when using gunslinger is just awful
509d08 No.15045227
>>15030958
Nero has a great design in V way better than 4 yet he looks almost identical to 4.
Their were a few leaks before E3 this one turned out to be true.
6e7f64 No.15045236
>>15044994
There's nothing mysterious about him, it's Vergil, his name in the pamphlet from E3 is "V" even.
509d08 No.15045244
>>15045192
I found the puppets to be the worst trash enemy in the mainline games my personal favorite design was are the puppets in 1.
>>15045236
possible red hearing
e5d73b No.15045246
>>15045236
They've said that this "V" is a summon based character though in addition he seems to have tattoos and black hair. That doesn't seem like Vergil to me.
509d08 No.15045263
>>15045246
If you look at his feet he also wears sandals. Virgil has been playing only on SE's so far I bet that will remain true in V.
e5d73b No.15045279
>>15045263
A lot of people have been saying it's Lady's kid/Arkham's grandkid because of the effect on the arms but I still want to believe it's Demifiend as stupid as that theory is.
024579 No.15045293
>>15045279
>I still want to believe it's Demifiend as stupid as that theory is.
I've seen suggestions of Demifiend, Gene, and Bayonetta, and I'd prefer any of those to whatever OC character they might introduce.
509d08 No.15045347
>>15045279
>>15045293
Demifiend is not happening it makes no sense business sense wise with the amount of money it takes to make a playable character in DMC.
V could be related to someone but my bet is brand new OC.
It was revealed in the Japanese live stream a few days ago thatall major characters are having their wardrobe's designed by designers in England.
c24254 No.15045367
>>15045244
Hey lad, where's that third webm from?
That's not a scene I recognise.
e5d73b No.15045373
>>15045293
>Gene
As awesome as that would be I'd much rather just have a new God Hand.
>Bayonetta
That's a horrible idea besides the fact that's clearly a man's figure in the promo art, there's no way you could have both Bayonetta and Dante in the same game without making one look more powerful or capable than the other and just pissing off one half of the fanbase. Also quite honestly as paperthin as the writing is in DMC Bayonetta is even less nuanced as a character in my opinion and wouldn't work in something like this.
>>15045347
He probably is a new character I just wanted to believe.
>>15045367
My bet is the DMC4 Pachinko shit they made.
c24254 No.15045393
>>15045373
>the DMC4 Pachinko
I completely forcefully forgot that existed.
e33791 No.15045616
>>15045347
Plot-wise it makes perfect sense.
>demons invade
>Nocturne TDE has Demi-Fiend join the ranks of demons
Financial-wise it would make sense ONLY and ONLY if Atlus and Capcom had a non-zero amount of interaction lately. Technically, Capcom is doing failures after failures right now - Pachinko slots that target gamer demographic don't attract it and DmC was a failure. They would really like to get in with someone that looks like they know what they're doing and Atlus managed to sell P3 remaster, P4 remaster, a bunch of dance games and two separate releases of P4 fighting games. On top of that, Atlus partnered with Capcom already. Putting Demifiend in is exactly the type of move a clueless person at the top could make right now based on the present conditions, but without the assessment of the industry.
e33791 No.15045624
>>15045616
To add to that, adding Demifiend in would allow Atlus to try to sell another Nocturne remaster, this time ported to the new hardware. At this point, they're running out of franchises to sell, so capitalizing on this kind of a meme would be a good move to make.
faebe3 No.15045759
Guys help, I can't get Devil Trigger out of my head.
b1c2bc No.15046555
>>15044941
>best Dante design but not personality
I like to think that the reason Dante acted like he did in DMC2 was that he ate some bad pizza the night before and had to deal with a stomach ache, making him get super lazy.
478dee No.15046668
>>15045759
ALL OF THESE VOICES INSIDE OF MY HEAD
:^)
23f5b0 No.15046716
Anyone know how the PS3 HD collection is compared to the PC versions of DMC 1 & 3? Was thinking of getting the PC version but heard that has some issues.
08fbd1 No.15046722
>>15046716
>PC version issues
Really? What are they?
024579 No.15046753
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>>15046716
>Was thinking of getting the PC version but heard that has some issues.
I just finished DMC1 in the collection a few minutes ago and didn't experience any of the audio or antialiasing bugs I had heard about, so they may have been patched. The most noticeable visual difference between the PS3 and PC versions I noticed was the low-sample / totally absent motion blur effect.
>>15046722
Here
4e0548 No.15047511
>>15045155
Yes, check it out. Seriously, don't look into the game on youtube, just trust me on that. The SWAT only shows up like in the last fifth of the game.
5884d7 No.15052354
>Goldstein
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Nico
024579 No.15052398
>>15052354
That was discovered minutes after the trailer, Neil Goldstein was an established character
>>15052384
Hey fuck you buddy, acknowledge that I am tied for top faggot
872576 No.15052687
>>15030958
I don't mind Nero's new design either. It only makes sense that he would resemble his father more with age. I think they pulled it off well enough.
>>15030862
It would be pretty funny if it turned out Morrison was just using some blackface magic trick like Trish.
Anyhow, I agree Nico is a disgusting character design. I have no clue what they were thinking with her.
d98773 No.15057135
>>15052354
The ultimate upgrade let's Nero use his prosthetic arm to subvert demon culture.
>>15052687
>your art for Vergil? Yup.
And here I thought it was Makoto Tsuchibayashi who did the concept art. Gonna go out on a limb here and say egghead is claiming credit for someone else's work.
da6da6 No.15058984
>>15052354
>merchant character that's constantly asking you for money is named (((Goldstein)))
OY VEY THIS GAME IS PROBLEMATIC
d907bd No.15059616
>>15057135
That's very strange. Kamiya usually credits everyone.
d92f86 No.15059641
Yo, how the fuck am I supposed to play Lady? Her style is totally different and it's baffling me.
066c2e No.15059646
>>15057135
>Gonna go out on a limb here and say egghead is claiming credit for someone else's work.
I think he's just confirming that the concept art is of Vergil.
e31c33 No.15059662
>>15058984
>Was trying to upsell her goods to US army soldier in trailer.
c85ff4 No.15059669
>>15059641
Lady is really easy to be OP with, her Charge shots destroy everything.
Want to kill a boss, shotgun, Charge shot level 3 , jump cancel and fire over and over again.
d92f86 No.15059685
>>15059669
I've already figured out that the shotgun is the Great Destroyer, but I don't want to be just OP, I want to be stylish and OP. It seems like her melee attacks are useless and her rocket launcher takes too long charging up to be of use too.
084267 No.15060671
>>15045236
>>15045244
>>15045246
Well, we already know from the trailer that Vergil is back and he's the one that rips Nero's arm, probably because he wants Yamato back.
Let's not forget what Nero says in the trailer "I've got a score to settle with that son of a bitch" this implies that Vergil will be the main antagonist or at least in part responsible for the events of the game.
That V character is really short to be Vergil, he should be about the same height as Dante and he should also have white hair. And if he's Vergil why the mystery?
So this is my theory. This V guy is actually a she and she's "maybe" related to Dante/Vergil "maybe" a daughter to one of them. I'm not sure about the last part but I'm sure V will be a woman, the build is just to thin for a man and the details of V's fighting style; summoning demons to fight reminds me of Bayonetta, which could be Itsuno's nod to Kamiya.
d907bd No.15061057
>>15060671
>>15045246
>>15045263
If Capcom are crazy enough, that mystery character might be demi-fiend with some stupid modern redesign.
Then again, maybe it's Noctis.
60002c No.15061072
5d839d No.15061122
>>15061057
I'm still praying for Demifiend but he's probably a new character.
>>15061072
I don't like her face actress but the trailer trash/Southern accent has been a fetish of mine before I even knew what fetishes were which is batshit because I'm not even from the States
4c4232 No.15061124
>>15044866
The dev has a pre-alpha version out right now but it's still buggy, he estimates he'll have the next release out in early July. He's adding extra stuff beyond style switching though too, like extra styles for Virgil as well as possibly
4c4232 No.15061125
>>15061124
>as well as possibly
co-op as Dante and Virgil in the campaign. Forgot to finish my thought as I grabbed the MP4.
066c2e No.15061138
>>15060671
>This V guy is actually a she and she's "maybe" related to Dante/Vergil "maybe" a daughter to one of them
I wouldn't be surprised if V being a girl was the case, but the body type doesn't seem to match with a female's body. Being Dante/Vergil's daughter is hard to swallow as I don't see the trademark white hair.
>V is actually female Dante personality-wise
>becomes main Protag alongside Nero
I'm fine with this.
>>15061057
Where the hell did the demi-fiend theory ever come from? You'd think if it was the case, they'd show him off at E3 as well, announcing their second partnership with Atlus in the process.
>>15061072
>"
How in the world did you fuck up the spoilers like that?
>I don't hate Nico
The big problem is her design, it's absolutely awful. Like they tried to copy Cidney, but failed to take what was good when making her.
d36811 No.15061150
>tfw journos thought Nero was Dante
As you can see, these journos never played a DMC besides the shit reboot.
Its good that it exposed them as the frauds that they are.
14947b No.15061157
>>15061150
But Nero does look like Donte
d36811 No.15061170
>>15061138
>Capcom tried to make a Cindy clone
>Fails to make her sexy
If they wanted to compete with Cindy, at least make YAY BADASS XD more hotter please?
But then again it is CURRENT YEAR Capcom.
4c4232 No.15061172
>>15061157
But Donte doesn't use a sword that can be revved like a motorcycle and have a Demonic Mechanical arm.
5d839d No.15061192
>>15061138
>Where the hell did the demi-fiend theory ever come from?
He's got black hair and has been called a "summoner" character that and he has no weapon on him in the render. Also it'd be fun to see Demifiend in Dante's game years after Dante was in Demifiend's.
>You'd think if it was the case, they'd show him off at E3 as well, announcing their second partnership with Atlus in the process.
Why? Normalfags wouldn't know who he is and everyone else only knows Personashit now. I think next we'll get a Dante-centric trailer and then have a tease of V at the end of it much like Dante was teased at the end of Nero's trailer.
Also bare with me here but DMC5's been in production since Dragons Dogma wrapped right? Isn't that around the same time SMT IV got released and Kaneko left ATLUS? He was credited on SMT IV as "creative advisor" or something like that. So what if he's been with Itsuno and co this whole time helping out?
>>15061157
But he doesn't retard. I remember someone posting a shopped image of 5 Nero with 4 Nero's hairstyle a while back if anyone has it that'd be appreciated because it looks just like him.
066c2e No.15061219
>>15061192
>He's got black hair and has been called a "summoner" character that and he has no weapon on him in the render.
That's making me think more like Bayonetta summoning demons for finishers and Umbran Climaxs or JoJo with stands. Game where Dante fights SMT demons when?
>Isn't that around the same time SMT IV got released and Kaneko left ATLUS?
Kaneko didn't leave Atlus. He did the story for SMT4A. Interestingly, he was also credited for DMC4SE for "Packaging Illustrator", whatever the hell that means. Maybe for originally designing Vergil's DT?
1164e2 No.15061237
>>15032006
Grips like that only shine in games like CoD. It's not intuitive for something that makes more use of face buttons.
54b752 No.15061240
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Nico is Agnus' daughter.
31f2fc No.15061247
What's that thing in the OP supposed to be?
4c4232 No.15061253
>>15061247
Tumblr version of the new DMC 5 girl.
67b971 No.15061263
>>15052354
You could not write it.
Only [redacted] will defend this.
31f2fc No.15061267
>>15061253
It's like they tried to copy Péchés Mignons' look and fucked it up at several points.
369367 No.15061679
>>15026734
why can't I get this mongoloid out of my head? I keep thinking about this atrocity for no reason at all. Fuck whoever made it and fuck OP for posting it. I think I now know how that "plastic smiling man with curly black hair" autist feels like.
b729ac No.15062030
>>15061138
Another reason for me to believe V might be female is Devil Trigger the song. For one is sang for the most part by a female which is a first for the games and the lyrics speak about someone embracing dark and power and letting it out and this can't be one of the MCs up to this point because all of them have embraced their demonic heritage by now.
Whatever the case "V" is clearly not Vergil.
Another theory I've seen floating around is that since V is implied to have demonic powers (half demon) and probably not related by blood to Dante/Vergil, V might actually be the child of Bradley and Angelina, the demon-human couple that appear on the anime, this supported by the fact that they brought Morrison from the anime aswell.
00dcd2 No.15063115
>>15061150
What did you expect from game journos http://archive.is/TuuGu
d36811 No.15063201
>>15063115
>Journos think Devil May Cry and Bayonetta are the same universe.
There cluelessness continues to amuse.
I'm glad DMC5 was revealed because it really made them look stupid.
024579 No.15063210
>>15063201
>Journos think Devil May Cry and Bayonetta are the same universe.
Well there's at least one shared character, but Bayonetta isn't a Capcom game.
d98773 No.15063225
>>15063115
Stupid fucks forgot mentioning Fortnite 2. smh tbh familia
0c53c5 No.15063233
>>15063201
>Devil May Cry and Bayonetta are the same universe
Well it's hinted at that they are outside of the games.
What you mean to say is: they think DMC and Bayonetta are made by the same people.
b649b2 No.15063374
>>15046753
why are hd remasters always butchered
2338d5 No.15063440
>>15026905
>as difficult and effective as learning to ride a bike with one leg
You've never rode a bicycle in your life have you? You only need one to operate the cycling mechanism and keeping from falling over is about how you distribute your torso's weight.
024579 No.15063481
>>15063374
God knows why, probably in this case because Capcom didn't care enough. A lot of these problems were already present in the 360 version of the HD Collection, which the PC version seems to be based on. There are so many little bugs between all of the different versions probably nobody would be able to make a comprehensive list. Last night I noticed (in hindsight) that there's a bug with the third Griffon fight in the PS3 version of the collection, his vertical laser grid attacks are much narrower than they're supposed to be.
000480 No.15063497
>>15063115
>>15063210
This has to be on purpose, right? They should know this. They are paid to know this. This is specifically what they are paid to know.
>>15061150
Well at least he is being forward about it.
c85ff4 No.15063519
>>15046753
>>15063374
>>15063481
From what i'v heard, The main reason the HD collection for DMC1 is a little off, is because they didn't have the gold finished version of the game, they had all of the individual pieces, but not all of them them compiled together, so they basically had to put the game together like a jigsaw puzzle.
b1c2bc No.15063688
What the fuck was with Dante in the anime? He was so dour, mean, depressed and unstylish that I was getting Dante vibes from him.
90fa97 No.15063745
>>15063688
>Watch a show about a man being fucked over by woman and deal with deb
>Surprised he's depressed.
Best episode is the one where he finds another copy of his fav record and is killing demons while jamming to it.
e16fa8 No.15064005
>>15061124
>finally found it
<doesn't werk
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
024579 No.15070139
Shouldn't let the thread die. Have you been playing anything?
99053a No.15070732
>>15061125
>co-op as Dante and Virgil in the campaign
Holy shit, I hope he gets that working. Also, if it does work, there is one game night sorted out.
c85ff4 No.15070877
I just want to remind everyone that I never had a doubt in my mind that Devil May Cry 5 was going to happen
a29618 No.15072298
"Microsoft conducted an interview with Itsuno and a couple of his cohorts. The interview has a bunch of new info. I'm surprised nobody made mention of it on here.
The interview is on Mixer (starts around 3:53): https://mixer.com/Xbox?vod=38224649
* The black guy smoking a cigar at the beginning of the Trailer is Morrison, from the DMC anime
* When the Capcom's higher ups approached Itsuno about making DMC5, they told him that people needed to recognize it as a high quality game with just a glance. That's the reason why they chose the RE Engine and the photo-realistic approach
* All the faces are scanned into the game, using European models
* The crux of the story will center around the demon tree and the demonic invasion of Redgrave City
* The demonic monster appearing near the start is a going to be a major villain. He's 26 feet tall
* As per the DMC4 novelization, Dante handed Nero the store's neon sign to open up his own DMC shop
* All of the footage is rendered in engine
* The van is the actual office of Devil May Cry
* The van has a fully rendered reception area inside
* Nico is Nero's partner in crime
* Itsuno made sure to bring as many of the staff who worked on DMC3 and 4 into the development of DMC5
* Yuji Shimomura (DMC3, DMC4, Onimusha 3, Bayonetta) is returning as the cutscene director/stunt coordinator
* As a part of the team's attention to details, Nero's mechanical arms (named the Devil Breakers) will deteriorate and break with usage. You will notice Nero replacing his Devil Breaker using the receptacle holstered on his waist. Not sure if this will have any gameplay implications
* During the game, you will unlock a multitude of Devil Breakers, each with their unique functions, and will be able to swap between them
* Nero's jacked was made in Europe first before being scanned into the game's engine, which is why it looks very realistic
* More info about the game, and about the Devil Breakers specifically, will be revealed at Gamescom
* The music video for the song "Devil Trigger" contains hints for the third mysterious playable character"
https://gamefaqs.please use archive.is/boards/241018-devil-may-cry-5/76707070
d98773 No.15072312
>>15072298
>All the faces are scanned into the game, using European models
Well, that explains the kike rat.
97fdaf No.15072358
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>>15063688
He's classically bipolar; in his downtime he's pretty depressed and dour because most of his family is still dead and there's really nothing to do, all he really lives for is the thrill and rush of a good fight. But when it comes time for a fight, his mania kicks in and he's all grinning and bad jokes. But there he's got the problem that he's just way too fucking powerful, too. Like, even when he's fighting Sid and been impaled again, he's a lot more energetic than when you for example watch him interact with his friends or colleagues.
DMC4 even shows it in the intro cutscene; at first he's just kind of "eh, what the fuck is this place even. Lady keeps giving me weird jobs, where the fuck is Trish and my sword? Oh there's that kid I saw running through the streets—" and then he gets drop-kicked in the face.
Like, for the first few exchanges with Nero after that, he's like "Oh, huh. This is kinda groovy." and by the time Nero gets a sword, Dante is already feeling kinda playful, as seen when he does the vroom vroom with Rebellion to mess with Nero.
Like, for the rest of the game, Dante is just riding off of that high, of finding his fucking nephew and getting to have some proper fun for the first time in ages.
aeb03d No.15072529
How the fuck do you do critical hits against the sin scissors in dmc1?
I tried shotgunning and air raiding so fucking hard to hit the mask and maybe I'm not getting it.
7e4cbe No.15072537
>>15072529
What are you trying to do?
024579 No.15072558
>>15072529
They have to take a full shotgun blast directly to the mask while staggered. Hit their scissors with the sword to stagger them and then walk to the left and blast them with the shotgun before they recover. Devil Trigger almost ensures the damage will one-shot them. It's not the kind of thing I ever would have figured out if I hadn't read how to do it.
>>15072537
Secret Mission 1, probably
3fe1e2 No.15072640
>>15061150
I've never played a DMC game and maybe seen about an hours worth of a speedrun of DMC4 and I knew that it was Nero when I watched the DMC5 trailer.
How the fuck do these hacks still have these jobs?
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
b247c4 No.15072679
>>15063688
Dante's mother got murdered and he killed his own brother TWICE (or thought he did). His shit talking always grinning persona is just that a persona he puts on when he deasl with other people or fighting demons. Dante is not a happy person inside.
066c2e No.15072680
>>15070877
>01/06/17
Sure took you a while though.
>>15072640
Because the only thing they know about DMC is DmC.
4c4232 No.15073069
>>15070732
I would imagine it would be local co-op, he's not going to bother trying to set up netplay. Probably.
dc339a No.15090217
What other details have been retconned post-DMC1? Like Sparda died of old age right? Kamiya said Dante is subject to human lifespans but is nearly immortal if he chooses to stay in demon form-Implying Sparda remained as a demon during his 2,000 year reign before taking on a human body for Eva.
In 3 he left the Force Edge that grants other his form and most of his power in hell to keep other demons from invading along with sacrificing a priestess, but I'm not sure if it happened immediately after betraying Mundus 2 millenia ago or more recently given the previous information about aging.
>>15072315
Always touched whenever drawfags fulfill funny requests
aac45c No.15090226
>>15070877
So you're the one who used the monkey's paw then? Thanks a lot dickhead.
720a89 No.15090515
>>15063688
The anime is supposed to be a character study of Dante when he's not facing any world threatening events and as you can see he acts different to the way he's portrayed in the games.
His behavior is that of someone dealing with depression and alcoholism. I mean just look at how many bottles of booze are in his office. The guy needs a hug.
Also this >>15072358
e0470a No.15090550
>>15076970
This actually became a thing, huh.
e0470a No.15090555
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>>15090515
His office looks a lot nicer in the mobile game and it kind of implies Trish lives there, too.
97a8eb No.15090560
>>15072358
>>15090515
Shit, I never realized. It is kind of upseting, just like finding out you cool and whacky uncle is actually clinically depressed and have a very hard life.
>Lost his parents at a young age.
>Probably a sad lonely childhood
>Maybe he was raised together with Vergil, but is clear they were never in the best of terms.
>Still love his bro.
>Both fight and then Vergil proceeds to get lost in hell.
>Years latter the mission to defeat Mundus.
>Finds his brother brainwashed by Mundus, hate to kill him.
>Almost lost Trish, the chick that looks like his mom.
>At some point in debt, without crazy missions to make you feel better.
<Find nephew. Kind of grumpy but pretty crazy. A good kid.
>Proceed to get lost in hell (DMC2)
Shit, I hope he gets to have some happiness in V and for Nero to fill his hearth with light and familiar bonding
97a8eb No.15090564
>>15090560
>hate to
have to, sorry
08f407 No.15090569
>>15072298
Why would they keep a third character so under wraps like this unless he's someone actually important or existed previously?
e0470a No.15090574
>>15090560
In the novel that might not be canon anymore that is set right before DMC2, he went into a parallel world and had to kill that place's Trish because she was still evil, too.
So yeah, he's kinda had it rough.
592033 No.15090680
>>15090560
You nailed Dante
Dante and Vergil's motivation lol come from the trauma of their childhood. Vergil's entire motto is "I need more power" but why would he? He's one of the most powerful being alive. The answer is clear when he's says to Dante "Might controls everything, and without strength you can't protect anything, let alone yourself". Why would a loner who only looks out for himself want to protect anything? The implication is that he witnessed Eva's death and he probably tried to do something about it and couldn't, he was only a child.
I imagine him being "If only I had been more powerful I would've saved her" and from then on obsessing with the attainment of power, damming his humanity (weakness) and growing cold and distant which in term explains a lot of his personality.
So basically he's just a small child that wants his mom and his quest for power is him reliving Eva's death and the frustration of being unable to do anything. Vergil also needs a hug.
38bd10 No.15090801
>>15090611
>Neat cliche anime-tier intro
>"Sure. I'll be waiting for you to play Devil May Cry X Pach-"
Why the
FUCK
do they think this is good marketing?
fd1acb No.15090813
>>15090611
Devil May Cry animated movie when
a50640 No.15090818
>>15090680
Such a fucking weak excuse. Sick and tired of games doing this corny shit, can I get a game where the protagonist or second characters are pro-active instead of being the way they are because of circumstances.
38bd10 No.15090868
>>15090818
Art imitates life, anon. A lot of people are the way they are because of what they experienced in the past and what they got out of it- Dante and Vergil both suffered the same trauma, but they cope with it in different ways.
e0470a No.15090874
>>15090818
Because in stories a narrative continuity is usually a strong basis. Like having Dante and Vergil be opposites in everything, from their appearance to fighting styles to even their ideology is what makes their relationship what it is.
Vergil literally slicks back his hair to look different from Dante, so from the point of view of character design, giving him just a stand alone motivation is kind of weird.
024579 No.15090881
>>15090217
The company should be called Devil Never Cry post-DMC1, right?
f54026 No.15090882
>>15090680
>>15090868
>>15090874
>generic anime "I want to protect my friends!"
>becomes an edgelord because a friend died
>2deep4u
9b982d No.15090891
96c757 No.15090893
>>15076970
Music's fucking terrible
c24254 No.15090897
>>15090882
>I want to protect my friends!
You gotta have been living a weird life if your mom is your buddy ol pal.
Put yourself in the shoes of hiding under a bed while your family is being slaughtered maybe 2 feet from your mug and you can't do shit about it.
Show me the kid who grows up to be normal after that.
72a755 No.15090898
>>15090882
>Parent dies when he was a child
>Becomes a cold and calculating detatched individual focused only on improving himself and gaining the power he wish he had when said parent died
>Why have a character arc when they can just always be badass™
Nothing 2deep4u here to be honest and the only edgelord here is you anon.
e0470a No.15090899
>>15090882
*>watched his mother get ganked as a kid
Vergil is 2edgy4friends, dude.
38bd10 No.15090904
>>15090882
Fishing for (you)'s, are we? Here, have this one. It's free.
f54026 No.15090908
>>15090897
<semantics
<ignorant of a generic nip trope
<defending shit writing
>>15090898
>h-how dare you call muh favorite video game character an edgelord!
>y-you're the edgelord!
>>15090904
thanks for the (you)s, faggots
dc9bb9 No.15090917
>ctrl+F "gotta let it out"
>zero results
I have never been more disappointed in you.
73d2f7 No.15090920
>>15090908
>yet another *snap* poster
Where the fuck did this forced meme come from?
c24254 No.15090921
<<15090908
>be wrong
>s-semantics!
>cuckchan "memes"
My expectations of you were low, but you found a way to fall even below that.
e0470a No.15090923
>>15090908
You missed me!
>>15090920
I first saw in on 8/tv/, but who knows.
72a755 No.15090925
>>15090908
>snapposter
Oh an edgelord and a retard great.
f54026 No.15090931
>>15090921
>>15090925
>gets baited
>gets triggered
>over a fictional character
af6a2d No.15090934
>>15090226
Those dubs said its not going to be shit.
841f2a No.15090938
>>15090920
4chan I recently checked up on it
e0470a No.15090943
>>15090931
>keeps ignoring me
Huh, I guess my superpower is being invisible to faggots.
c24254 No.15090948
<<15090931
>be wrong
>get told you're wrong
>in a thread about a topic you don't know anything about
>ur dum lol baited!
Back on track though. If Nero had his arm removed and with that his DT, what would that mean for him in terms of fighting ability?
In the trailer you can see him double jump while doing air combos, so he definitely still has some abilities that are superhuman left.
f54026 No.15090951
>>15090943
>wasn't baited
>wasn't triggered
>but still wants to be included
e0470a No.15090955
>>15090951
Thanks, I feel really validated now. I appreciate it, man. I really do.
>>15090948
His DT was supposed to be his soul manifest, though. His arm was always kind of wonky, in what it was supposed to be. Maybe it really was just a magical tumor all along?
c24254 No.15090966
>>15090955
I meant that with his arm Yamato is gone.
It was like a catalyst for him to manifest his soul as DT. Unless he actually learned to control his DT, which is unlikely since he still had his arm stuck in demon form, I doubt he'll have a full blown DT now.
At best he can probably squeeze out some of his soul without Yamato.
Maybe uncle Dante will stab him with something to awaken his actual DT like Vergil did with him.
e0470a No.15090969
>>15090966
It'll probably show up at the mid-point of the game again, like it pretty much always has. Hopefully they bring back the DT customization from DMC2, too.
a50640 No.15090980
>>15090868
>Art imitates life, anon. A lot of people are the way they are because of what they experienced in the past and what they got out of it- Dante and Vergil both suffered the same trauma, but they cope with it in different ways.
Yet in life there exists people who are self aware, who are able to distinguished what society and their parents has taught them and decide to create himself from scratch based on his own personal philosophy that is attuned to his nature. It being common doesn't excuse the fact that we can and should evolve.
>>15090874
>Because in stories a narrative continuity is usually a strong basis.
I know and I agree with this, I am not against continuity, just the premise.
>Like having Dante and Vergil be opposites in everything, from their appearance to fighting styles to even their ideology is what makes their relationship what it is.
Yes, I am quite well aware of what a pro and antagonist are, I have even heard of a triagonist which I don't think any video game or media has done.
>Vergil literally slicks back his hair to look different from Dante, so from the point of view of character design, giving him just a stand alone motivation is kind of weird.
I don't oppose it, just oppose the reaction. It should have been done to their nature, Vergil feels like he has no autonomy.
f54026 No.15090981
>>15090948
>didn't refute anything
>somehow it's wrong
c24254 No.15090995
>>15090980
>Vergil feels like he has no autonomy
Can't that itself be a character trait?
Isn't that what caused him to lose to Dante and retreat into the demon world to face Mundus alone regardless?
Even if you take "generic" and archetypal traits, you can still make a good character out of that, which I think Vergil is.
96c757 No.15091041
>>15090818
Maybe you meant you want characters not being molded by traumatic events in the past. Everyone's the way they are because of circumstances.
449161 No.15091045
Man, the god of soy director is going to look stupid once DMC5 drops and reminds everyone how action games should be done
96c757 No.15091075
>>15046753
Got a torrent for the latest version? I don't know if fitgirl's is the lastest version
1401f4 No.15091165
>>15090948
It will come down to how they explain the origins of Nero's arm and his relation to Vergil. See Nero never went DT he just channeled a stand of Vergil's (confirmed by the shadow of Vergil's ending in DMC4SE)
The concept art of DMC4 implies that he was going to get his own DT at some point but that got scrapped so who knows… he's probably getting a true DT form in this game.
This is just speculating but I think that DMCV is going to reckon a couple of things that were implied outside of the games, much like how they changed Morrison's race. My hunch is that they're going to rewrite the origin of Nero's arm
46fc9c No.15091200
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>>15076970
shitty metal cover sounds better. I know want to see how it would sound in the actual trailer if you would replace the EDM one with it
96c757 No.15091232
>>15061267
That's obscure enough to give you away, frog.
384e51 No.15091243
>>15091200
>Posts known Canadian cuck.
>Doesn't hooktube known Canadian cuck's vid to halt advert revenue.
6c6659 No.15091257
>>15091243
>known
you're gonna have to gimme a quick rundown, there's a handful of his covers I've enjoyed (non vocal usually). What a fucking shame it's starting to feel like every time I turn around something I liked or might have liked gets exposed for bullshit
e15644 No.15091263
>>15091257
He is a cuck based purely on the fact that he is Canadian
46fc9c No.15091264
>>15091243
is everyone cuck these days?
Those two (Edwards) that made the song have so much virtue signalling shit on their twitter too
and yeah should have used hooktube. my bad
6c6659 No.15091275
>>15091263
As much as we should mock the leaves that's not actually a concrete reason to put them on the bad goy list or not
384e51 No.15091280
>>15091257
Canadian anon. You just need to look at his social media for 30 seconds and you'll find some aids.
6c6659 No.15091286
>>15091280
>You just need to look at his social media for 30 seconds
I'd really rather not but I did anyways and it makes that music-related meme in your screencap make pretty tame to just how lame the rest of the stuff on his feed is
1a6534 No.15091299
>people defending playing DMC on a keyboard
384e51 No.15091307
>>15091299
Let it go Anon. Let them have their false reality.
c85ff4 No.15091374
>>15091299
I manly play on controller but i'v tried keyboard a bit, it really isn't that bad, since your never moving the camera anyway due to it being fixed or the lock on moving it for you.
Someone gitting gud with keyboard doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
1a6534 No.15091397
>>15091374
A controller is still better.
55fb25 No.15091814
>>15091575
did this screenshot really spawn this meme?
6c6659 No.15091830
>>15091575
I hope Lady comes back so we have at least one pretty girl in the game
c85ff4 No.15091841
>>15091830
It's pretty early to tell, aside from knowing that Dante Nero and Vergil are in the game they could be doing anything.
They even when though the effort of referencing the DMC1 Novel, Nico's last name Goldstein is the same last name as the lady who Made Dante Ebony and Ivory, and the Novel also mentioned the Demon Tree that's in the game, who knows were this games going to go with it's story.
55fb25 No.15091844
>>15091833 (checked)
Well at least there's something out of this potential travesty.
6c6659 No.15091868
>>15091841
>Nico's last name Goldstein
can't help but laugh
99053a No.15092152
>>15091841
I'd be stunned if the supporting cast from previous games don't return. We at least know Kyrie is a lock, perhaps even killed by Vergil, doubtful though.
c85ff4 No.15092223
>>15092152
I keep seeing people suggest that Kyrie could be killed, but I think there no way that's happening, Nero losing his Devil Bringer is enough motivation to make him want to fight Vergil, killing Kyrie off would just be unnecessary, and it would be covering old ground since she was already Nero's motivation in DMC4.
97a8eb No.15092275
>>15092223
Pretty sure this game will take place years after DMC2. Dante has disappeared and Nero has taken over the business. The reason for this is that at the end of the game, once he accepts his demonic side and his strange arm, he says that it purpose was to kill guys like the Savior, aka demons. Furthermore, by hunting demons he probably hopes to get closer to his arm and, consequently, Yamato, which is the key to hell and far to dangerous to leave in the hands of some asshole. Kyrie is probably at home and Nico is just her mechanic. Also he may or may not keep in contact with Lady and Trish. This game looks like is going to be a recreation of what Sparda fought in his time, the Demonic armies invading the whole world. Pretty good for a final climax.
dc339a No.15092281
>>15090881
Yeah maybe they changed it back because it looked nicer, I don't know. He gives him the "May Cry" sign to Nero anyway.
c24254 No.15092339
>>15092275
You know, I just thought of something.
What if there's another reason for Vergil taking back Yamato? Namely get a certain someone out of hell. Probably a little too far out there, considering he just rips it off of Nero, but who knows.
Or maybe there's something in hell he wants and that just coincidentally opens up a door for Dante.
I'm thinking that quite a bit of time passes between Nero losing his arm, the jew making and selling him the robo arms and Dante's return.
Almost enough time to fit in some hell levels and an encounter with a hooded weeb who looks like you.
c85ff4 No.15092350
>>15090881
Devil Never Cry worked for how DMC1 ended, but Devil May Cry rolls off the tongue allot better. the anime and DMC4 show that it changed back to May Cry, were never given a reason why, maybe after Trish left Dante pre-anime he changed it back, that's the most logical answer I can think of.
97a8eb No.15092379
>>15092339
I'll say the second one is more likely, as I doubt Nero would refuse to save Dante, unless there are bad consequences in doing so. Also, yeah, probably some time passes, and, although I am not sure if there will be hell levels, if Capcom makes the right choice and gives each character his own campaign, then I think it would be possible. I say it is very likely you will start with Nero Campaign and unlock the other two as you advance, climaxing in a True Final Campaign. Also I hope Mundus appears again.
4ddd07 No.15093303
>>15090881
That was the plan originally but that detail got reckoned. The series is full of little details like those that get contradicted or re-written in subsequent games. For all intents and purposes Dante never changed the name of his business
Remember how in DMC1 Dante's main sword was supposed to be Force Edge with Alastor being the upgrade, well from DMC2 onward Rebellion is Dante's main sword, even in 4 which takes place after 1… Alastor is never seen or mentioned again.
The anime which takes place after 1 and before 4, in it Trish no longer lives/works with Dante because she can't stand his bad habits but in DMC4 is like that didn't happen. You could argue that she eventually went back but is not like Dante changed much so that detail is left open and not given attention because the anime was made before DMC4.
In the DMC3 manga when Vergil meets with Arkham at the library he kills a librarian, that doesn't happen in the game.
There are a couple more but those are the ones off the top of my head right now.
b1c2bc No.15093529
>>15092275
If it takes place after DMC2 which it should, because retcons are fucking annoying, I hope they bring back some bosses like Argosax and Skull Knight Bolverk but make them not shit. I think there was a lot of stuff in that game that had potential, and it'd be a real shame to just waste it all.
024579 No.15093597
>>15093303
>Alastor is never seen or mentioned again.
That could be intentional, though. They named the sword Alastor because DMC1 was a story of revenge, it would make sense for Dante to retire that sword after defeating Mundus.
And are you sure that we never get to see Alastor again?
c85ff4 No.15093624
>>15093529
I would love to see Lucia again in a better game, she has such a unique design and fighting style, it would be great to see how a more depthful and polished version of her would play.
but given the fact that Capcom has barely acknowledged DMC2's existence ever since it came out, I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing her again.
97a8eb No.15094229
>>15093624
I actually would like her to appear. I have the feeling that this game may actually take into account DMC 2. Seems like the demons are invading the human world in masses, just like in Sparda's time. Yamato has been stolen, so probably it was used to open hell's gate. Furthermore, Nero seems to be the one taking care of the Devil May Cry agency, which we can deduce then that Dante isn't around. Probably this means that he is in hell, just how DMC 2 ended. He riding the demonic motorbike may be actually the scene when he gets out of hell. Of course this is just a theory, we still know jack shit.
Also be careful what you wish for. DMC 5 may trash her design completely considering what we have seen so far.
b29956 No.15094237
>>15093624
The age old of curse of the great character in a shit game
b29956 No.15094245
>>15091833
That Virgil and arm combo.
b1c2bc No.15094713
Out of curiosity, when you started playing DMC, did you brute-force your way through your first playthrough and experiment with the combat in later ones, or did you try getting cuhrayzee from the get-go?
76da61 No.15094728
>>15094713
Is Dante missing a tooth?
b1c2bc No.15094756
>>15094728
I think the shading is just weird in that frame, making his one tooth darker than the others for some reason.
00dcd2 No.15094923
>>15092350
Or all customers still thought it was called Devil May Cry and Dante got tired of correcting everyone.
bf2901 No.15094955
>>15030958
So who did Vergil fuck?
49bc1f No.15094968
>>15094955
Where did you get this sharo from?
c24254 No.15094978
>>15094955
>So who did Vergil fuck?
A hooker technically, I think that's who it was in the novel(s).
But you can see a cloaked woman from the
Order swooning when he walks by her in a cutscene in DMC4 Special Edition, so who knows.
bf2901 No.15095577
>>15094968
From some thread sometime ago. Why?
>>15094978
I hope he bonned some random qt, not some damn hooker but I'd be fine with either one
cd27d1 No.15095584
>>15094978
Probably a hooker then, I think its safe to say that the novel is canon.
cd27d1 No.15095591
7e81c5 No.15095620
>>15031119
No it's more so the character and art designs that I don't like than the photorealism. Nero's costume face and everything is fucked compared to 4. Infact everyone just had a better "grand" design in comparison to DMC5 where the characters on the screen look more generic in their outfits(ruining alot of the mystique) in DMC when you typically see a humanoid character there is always something striking about their appearance these characters they drew up this time don't really inspire. The game could be fine but the way they designed nero is fucked and IDK what that jewish girl is.
c85ff4 No.15095644
>>15095620
Well i'm sure the only reason vanilla DMC4 didn't have alt costumes was because it was unfinished.
So considering DMC5 has had the longest development time out of all the games, i'm hoping for a ton of costumes from the previous games.
97a8eb No.15095671
>>15095620
I think the blander and more boring are style comes with the fact that they went with a photo realistic look. Probably the gaudy and over the top design clashed too strongly with the more realistic looking characters. Really fucking sucks that they had decided to go with this. I wonder how much is Capcom's fault. Here I hope the design of the demons are better, but so far they also seem kind of bland, except for the weird flower, bird chick demon.
7e81c5 No.15095825
>>15046555
I think he acts like that because he's aging I think DMC2 takes place when he's getting really really old which explains the tech(and also explains the tech in this game also)
>>15090680
Vergil wants more power because he wants to be more like his dad he runs off at the end of 3 to fight mundus not because he even thinks he's gonna win he just doesn't find commonality or enjoyment living in the human world.
Dante has more in common with his mom he's more human and is looking for lasting human bonds but his main problem is that at the end of the day he's still some weirdo demon freak.
The dichotomy between Vergil and Dante is that Vergil wants to embrace his demonic roots whilst Dante doesn't really want to acknowledge them but he has to because at heart he actually wants normality and a stable earth.
cd27d1 No.15095836
>>15095610
>Demi Fiend
I doubt he's in the game anon
b9cd0b No.15095963
What's the best version of the original trilogy?
PS2 emulation still fucking sucks, so my only options are the steam HD version, buying the HD version for PS3 or waiting until I eventually jailbreak my PS3 and emulate the original trilogy since jailbroken PS3s can run PS2 games from what I've heard.
Also, is the PC port of DMC4 any good or should I get the PS3 one instead?
c85ff4 No.15096028
>>15095963
Now with the HD collection on Steam, all the PC version save for the Standalone DMC3 port from 2006, are perfectly fine ways to play the series, you shouldn't run into any real problems.
af6a2d No.15096029
>>15095963
Play DMC any way you can
DMC3 on PC with style switcher mod
DMC4 on PC
b9cd0b No.15096069
>>15096028
>>15096029
Thanks, I guess I'll just pirate the HD version then, since I'm 5 bucks short with my refund credit.
>style switcher mod
What does that do?
af6a2d No.15096099
>>15096069
Makes DMC3 on PC playable
16aabb No.15096109
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>>15096028
The HD versions have problems too.
024579 No.15096115
>>15096069
Despite the name, it's an overhaul for a lot of technical issues with the DMC3SE PC port. It also adds in an option to switch combat styles mid-combo the way you can in DMC4, in DMC3 you can only switch out styles at specific points in the mission through a menu. To be clear, you should play DMC3 the intended way, you should not use style switching on your first playthrough at all.
c85ff4 No.15096141
>>15096109
while imperfections I wouldn't consider those things to be game running,
The best thing the HD colection has going for it is that Serpentiem the guy who made the style switch mod, already updated it for the hd collection and his working on adding allot more to the mod, like level select for DMC1.
024579 No.15096156
>>15096141
>like level select for DMC1
Good, because I wasn't eager to replay the entire game to fill in one gap. I suppose it would only take about an hour, but all the same, I've played it a bunch of times recently
b9cd0b No.15096226
>>15096099
>>15096115
Okay, thanks.
>>15096109
What's with shitty devs always making everything clear and with no contrast?
Do they think "old game has blur so blur is old" or is that the new meme like overlays were a few years ago?
99053a No.15096262
>>15096141
Is there a link for that? Searched about a week or two ago and couldn't find it. Only a Reddit link which didn't work anyway.
c85ff4 No.15096326
>>15096262
The way he updates is odd, i guess since this is only his version 0.1 so far he's not putting it up anywhere else yet
but the first link in this comment
https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/82gwe2/ddmk/dziw2wf/
has the direct download for the most recent version of the mod
this is also a list of what he's planing to add to it in the future
https://github.com/serpentiem/ddmk/issues/1
c24254 No.15096335
>>15095610
>demi
>nero angelo
>that demon in stasis
99053a No.15096367
>>15096326
Thanks, don't know why the download link wasn't working before. Is it a simple drag and drop?
c85ff4 No.15096375
>>15096367
I haven't actually used it just yet but that what he says to do in the post.
>>15096353
interestingly when you look at how much older the characters seem to be from the anime to DMC4 i think it's possible Patty could be close to the same age as Nero.
066c2e No.15096395
>>15096326
>DMC1
>Allow usage of the Sparda Devil Trigger throughout the entire game.
>Allow selecting missions.
>Introduce Bloody Palace mode.
>Introduce Lock-on display.
Those all look pretty good.
>INTRODUCE PLAYABLE NERO ANGELO.
16aabb No.15096429
I just played through the first 3 levels of DMC3 (until Cerberus) on a PS2 emulator, and also the HD version. Here are some things that were different in the HD version:
Tons of missing effects, the areas were missing almost all the lights making them seem very dull and washed out.
It's much harder to control Dante in the HD version. He turns much slower and it's not nearly as easy to pull off stingers and high times (Dante will do a stinger into the corner in the HD version when he would turn around and stinger the enemy in the emulated version). This makes using Beowulf almost impossible. Getting those damned shoryukens off in the HD version is a huge pain in the ass.
I recall someone saying that DMC3 is clunky and stiff, maybe they were playing the HD version. Emulated version was smooth as silk and I could easily pull off Sweet and SShowtime, but struggled to reach Alright in the HD version.
So overall my advice is to play the emulated version if you can, forget the HD.
99053a No.15096591
>>15096367
Wish I knew what I am doing wrong. Paste the stuff into the root directory, nothing. Paste them into DMC3 folder, nothing.
>>15096429
I don't have those problems at all, mechanic and control wise. Controller issues with the HD collection maybe? I'm using a standard 360 controller.
c85ff4 No.15096642
>>15096429
I did notice that in DMC3 HD doing Crazy combos is harder then it should be.
16aabb No.15096664
>>15096591
It's very subtle, most common problem with the controls is when I do a high time in the opposite direction, when I wanted to do a stinger.
Dante has like a half second adjustment time before he looks in the direction I want him to for some strange reason. I'm also using a 360 controller. The emulator responds completely fine.
0b703e No.15096665
>>15030958
>Also I might be seeing things, but I think Nero is starting to look closer to his father in face structure, the way the eyes shape look pretty similar
I'm the one who pointed that out you fraud
99053a No.15096692
>>15096664
Either I got used to it quickly or its not there for me. Maybe I'll try the emulation to see.
0b703e No.15096732
>>15060671
> This V guy is actually a she
Those shoulders are pretty broad for a she
024579 No.15096760
>>15096429
>Tons of missing effects, the areas were missing almost all the lights making them seem very dull and washed out.
If I remember correctly those lack of visual effects were already a problem both in the original version of the collection and the original PC port.
478dee No.15096777
>>15096732
If anon actually thinks thats a girl then he needs to go the fuck outside or the girls where he live must all be fucking mtf trannies because that man is obviously not a fucking woman.
In typical nip game fashion its most definitely a twink instead.
0b703e No.15096783
>>15063233
I hope they aren't, I don't like Bayonetta's >muh light is not good
c85ff4 No.15096793
>>15096783
I doubt DMC will ever canonically be made to take place in the same universe as Bayonetta
DMC has always been mad as a universe where hell exists but not heaven. introducing heaven and angels would raise up far too many questions as to why they've never done anything when the world was in danger.
6c6659 No.15096799
>>15096777
then again if a smart woman was making a disguise it would include things like shoulderpads to hide the female frame but i highly doubt that's the case in this game
03ed9f No.15096870
>>15096793
It's part of the GREAT PLAN™ that Not!God has for the world.
I can see a DMC/Bayo crossover going full SMT, as in fuck Lucifer, fuck God, fuck everything and do it with style. And then, since there is no God or Lucifer, someone needs to put someone in charge in heaven and hell. Rodin decides to take charge, and he becomes the extra boss.
dc339a No.15097273
>>15095584
>>15094978
They showed that off in a DMC4 novel?
f4b29e No.15098839
>>15026788
>he can't DMC on a keyboard
af6a2d No.15098849
>>15095584
>vergil ordered a hooker
Do you think Dante is still a virgin?
0f434a No.15098892
>>15098839
You can do it, but why the hell would you want to use anything but a controller? Keyboard is a bad idea. t. Fag who used to play emulated N64 games on a keyboard because he had no controllers.
c82f54 No.15099105
>>15098892
for the average player, sure.
but for high level play timing and predictability become more important than analog input and a controller becomes limiting with 1 thumb spread across 4 buttons+joystick >clawgrip. it's the same as how a lot of speedrunners end up holding controllers backwards or setting them down and using their fingers. see also digital inputs on fightsticks.
I don't do it myself and will laugh at people for pretending they do, but I understand the logic behind it.
0f434a No.15099154
>>15099105
For button presses I'll definitely grant you that keyboard is better. I can't stand playing Super Metroid with its official controls. But for the directional inputs a stick is preferred for this.
8b1e9c No.15099200
REV' UP THOSE SMUGS, BECAUSE I SURE CAN'T STOP SUCKING DICKS
>pick up DMC4SE again
>fumble my way through Nero/Dante story
>savior time
>oh shit, what is happening what do I do? wait, did I parry that? how do I reach that last fucking orb?
<takes me nearly half an hour
>back2Nero, faggot dice rolls again, always land on red
>packs of angel niggers plow my ass
>first boss again, never managed to dodge the shockwave or the lava geysiers
How do I get a grip on this? Can't dodge for shit, multiple enemies always throw me off, etc. Oh god, the camera.
00dcd2 No.15099208
>>15098874
It was posted here already >>15091575
047269 No.15099311
>>15099154
I'm pretty sure the guy who did DMC3, DMD, all SS, Rebellion/E&I only, no style button did it on a keyboard. That run is 99% about lining enemies up precisely so you can combo them all at once for style points, so him being able to do it on keyboard means a lack of analogue input can't be that important.
Unfortunately I can't find the videos because they were on Blowhard's channel before it got nuked. They're probably on nico or something.
8d8547 No.15099476
>>15099200
>Bullshit Dice Puzzle
Use the Buster, motherfucka, it guarantees the top face of the die as a result.
>Lava geysers
Keep rolling till it stops, charge your gun while you do.
>Shockwave
Back that ass way the fuck up unless you like being plowed by flaming centaurs.
>Camera
Enemies almost always deaggro if they're not in shot, take advantage of that, and occasionally take control of the camera instead of letting it do what it wants.
0e77ce No.15099515
>>15099200
What difficulty are you on? I blazed through easy and normal, then started LDK and hooooly shit I'd forgotten that bosses actually can kill you.
c85ff4 No.15099533
>>15099200
Your supposed to cheat the dice game you know.
as Nero you buster or melee with Lady and Vergil, the dice lands of what ever number was face up, the numbers always loop in the same pattern.
35b907 No.15099575
>>15099476
>not Devil May Birdcry
b1c2bc No.15099633
>>15099200
Just jump backwards a lot.
t. someone that just beat the game for the first time last night. Mission 19 was a fat load of shit in general. I get they were trying to do a boss rush like the end of DMC3, but you can't fucking do that when you already fought all these bosses twice, then tie that to that shitty dice minigame that we already saw being skipped by Dante.
>>15099533
>as Nero you buster
Do you really need to buster? I figured out that the die always lands on the top face and I just hit it with the sword.
c85ff4 No.15099735
>>15099633
I guess not but may it's different between DMC4 and DMC4SE, or i'm just wrong and you could have always hit it with the sword
aeb03d No.15101710
>>15099200
this is why you play dmc1, way more simple and your movement is more rock paper scissors against some enemies like the shadow
97a8eb No.15103322
Now that both DMC5 and Bayonetta 3 are going to be released, I cannot help but compare both franchises. I like both, yet I always have preference for DMC yet I cannot say if is for any true objective reason or just plain nostalgia. If I have to point out what I find better in DMC rather than Bayonetta, it would be the gothic aesthetics, the writing is also better, or at least I find the character more likeable and interesting (although I guess having 4 games instead of 2 would help when t comes to fleshing out your characters). Don't get me wrong, I love Bayonetta's angels, the music and over the top designs, and there are quite a lot of similitude between them, but DMC's level were somehow able to be "creepy", to have and eery atmosphere, which contrasted with the over the top action which I enjoyed greatly. This is of course more personal preference than anything else.
My problem comes with the gameplay. Perhaps is my lack of skill and knowledge with both, but I have been playing recently DMC 3 and 4 and Bayonetta 1 and I find myself liking more DMC, yet I cannot explain exactly why. DMC seems to have less combos and attacks but they feel more satisfying to make crazy combos, and the inputs to do so feel very technical. But fighting enemies in both game seem quite different. In Bayonetta there are many enemies that outright block your combos midway and many just counterattack immediately, and the only way to reliably do crazy combos seems to rely on using Witch Time, which of course is disable in higher difficulties and certain enemies outright do not trigger it. When I think about it, it should make the game more enjoyable, as you cannot just pummel the enemy and therefore it is more challenging, as well as forcing you to use Dodge offset, but I find the enemies in DMC more enjoyable still. Are the DMC games easier and I'm just too much of a casual to appreciate Bayonetta combat system? I also dislike the rating system in Bayonetta for Pure Platinum. There are so many ways to get a cheap hit and it fucks over you score so much it sucks, but maybe I'm just bad also BayonettaXDevil May Cry when?
I'll like your opinion anons, how both sagas compare and which one are you more excited for?
ff2eeb No.15103353
>>15103322
DMC5 because although the reasons you listed are valid I still feel DMC is superior in every way compared to Bayonetta Lady is sexier than Bayo ever could be also I also feel Itsuno deserves all the credit Kamiya and to a lesser degree Platinum get.
I can understand people liking Bayo more but it's never even touched the level of DMC3 perfection.
0220ae No.15104147
>>15103322
>Perhaps is my lack of skill and knowledge with both
>I'm just too much of a casual to appreciate Bayonetta combat system?
Bayonetta's appeal in comparison to DMC is his low bar for combos and flashiness, this doesn't mean the games don't have any complexities at all, quite the opposite getting good at Bayo and being flashy at it takes a lot of effort, however the way the combat system is designed makes it feel like you've "mastered" it by just rolling your head on the controller.
DMC on the other hand is hard, just being mildly competent at it takes a lot of effort and being flashy is beyond the realm of most mortals.
You, like me appreciate DMC's high entry level more than Bayo's. That said Bayonetta 1-2 are generally better games when compared to DMC4 and even 3 (without mods).
Nice dubs
16aabb No.15104175
>>15103322
Bayonetta has always been too much of a clusterfuck for me. It's just the whole screen getting covered in effects.
I also hate Bayo for some reason. Dante is cool, Bayo is just too tryhard. She's just that one step further, where it starts to become annoying.
c85ff4 No.15104297
>>15103322
What makes Bayonetta inferior imo is that all the weapons are designed to work in pretty much the exact same way, they all have the same combo layout and all combos end in wicked weaves so there really isn't much of a reason to use other weapons besides the one you end up liking the most.
Where as in DMC each weapon has it's own combos they all have their own moves that all serve their own purpose, each weapon has it's own way to approach a fight with it.
That and the boss fights are just better in DMC.
What Bayonetta lacks in complexity it makes up for in spectacle, every thing in the games is a treat for the eyes, but once you get over that spectacle it's clear that Bayonetta is slightly lacking when compared to DMC.
97a8eb No.15104304
>>15104147
Perhaps is as you say. I do pretty good in Bayonetta consistently, while I struggle with DMC4 Dante, yet pulling off good combos with Dante feel extremely satisfactory. Also I feel like I have to play "defensively", so to speak, in Bayonetta, as enemies are very prone to break my combos, particularly in the air, and punish you. Also some enemies are very hard to keep on the air and just keep recovering mid combo (the fucking fire-dog-angels). I don't know how to feel about this, as although I think enemies should have tools to not get destroyed in seconds, it is also annoying and instead of encouraging players to perform flashy combos it forces you to depend on dodge offset and the Wicked Weaves or the Time Bracelet. If we add to that the strict ranking system and how it deals with hits it kind of sucks at times. In Devil may cry it feels the opposite, like I can be in the offensive constantly and many moves even let me stay in the offensive while avoiding damage, which also doesn't immediately bar you from getting a S rank in the level, which also encourages to be offensive, as a single mistake doesn't cost you the entire final rank. The lack of "witch-time" also means that the action is always fast and constant, but it never feels like the sensory overcharge that Bayonetta becomes some time. Also fighting multiple opponents seems more dangerous in DMC. Bayonetta games do feel better and more complete, yet I find DMC just more enjoyable experience. DMC4 biggest sin is the second half of the story mode, a shame.
>>15104175
I agree in part with the clusterfuck part. Also playing Bayonetta the environments didn't feel as "real", as strange as it sounds. DMC somehow by not being so over the top made you feel like the localizations you were in were more solid. I know I'm explaining myself horribly, but it actually does makes me like DMC more. I would add that I enjoy DMC's more open levels, a left-over of its roots as a RE prototype. DMC 1 in particular is fucking fantastic, exploring the big castle and the surroundings areas is still my favorite set in the entire saga. Funny enough, the first time I played I also didn't quite liked Bayonetta herself nor the game's humour, but with the time I got to like it a lot. I actually find Bayonetta to be fairly likeable. Dante for me is better and cooler, but Bayonetta ain't bad at all. Funny enough, while many would say she is sexy, I like her a lot more when she is cute. She has a very pretty face, and in the first game there are many moments where she comes off as cute. When interacting with Cereza, when she is sad (specially in the first encounter with Luka), and other moments where she breaks her "cool as shit, don't fuck with this witch" facade and kind of let her more sensible side shines.
c24254 No.15104306
>>15104297
>every thing in the games is a treat for the eyes
Until you're pulled back into reality with a poorly timed and distracting QTE.
99053a No.15104307
>>15103322
Playing Bayo 1 at the moment, liking it so far. DMC3 is still the king of the genre though.
99053a No.15104314
>>15104307
Forgot to add, the ears on the characters are driving me insane. Those big radars that stick out damn near 90 degree angles. Why can't Japs into faces? Bayo is clearly a white woman but looks like a Jap.
0df326 No.15104323
>>15026734
she has an ugly smile
97a8eb No.15104351
>>15104297
Yeah, this too. The weapons in bayonetta are a little to alike. Playing DMC, Rebellion, Gigalmesh and Lucifer are completelly different, and complement each other quite well, which makes comboing with all of them fun.
>>15104306
Fucking this too. Funny enough, Nero may actually be one of the few instance of "QTE" done well, although I stretch the definition of QTE with this one. Each Devil Buster has different attacks with different functions, they usually required the enemy to be stunned in some way, the player is in total control and can chose if and when to do them, there are many hidden attacks wich require timing and skill to pull off, and the animations are usually fast and sweet, with the bosses having more flashy and long animations to make it more satisfiying. Replaying Bayonetta to get platinum gets very tedious each time you have to do an unskipable QTE, and failling it and getting killed is the fucking worst thing ever.
c85ff4 No.15104366
>>15104351
regards to Bayonetta's QTE's This would be only for the Steam version but in someone had the great idea, using big picture mode to bind rapid fire Y X and B to down on the D-pad so when ever a QTE happens you just hold it down and win.
99053a No.15105018
>>15104307
Also, the pirate version doesn't track the Umbran Tears which sucks.
59a718 No.15105024
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>>15104304
On a surface level Bayo leans more towards being offensive because you really don't have that many "defensive" moves, that's the reason enemies try to break your combos often so you can exploit dodge offset. DMC's enemies ain't that aggressive with some exceptions but they tend to telegraph their attacks more clearly which is why you feel you can always keep on the offensive and since your defensive tools can be used offensively the possibilities increase.
Given what you've written I'd say you ain't that good or knowledgeable about Bayo's mechanics. That say I see where you're coming from, I also prefer DMC.
And as >>15104297 Bayo is more spectacle than substance.
97a8eb No.15105269
>>15105024
Yeah, as I said in >>15103322 I'm not that knowledgeable or good in neither DMC or Bayonetta. Getting there tough, currently I'm trying to get Platinum in all level of Bayonetta in Hard and playing DMC 4 trying to get good with Dante. I'll say one think I like about DMC4 is the lack of "lights" to tell you an attack is coming, forcing you to observe the enemies attacks. I guess that is why they telegraph their attacks more than in Bayonetta.
99053a No.15105480
>>15105269
I'm glad for the light on enemies, I can't read them for shit.
07b64b No.15107081
>>15105269
>git gud with dante
i too wish to know this feel
im competent with his moves but actual act of moving between enemies feels incredibly sluggish. I never had that problem with nero because his grab can bring everything to me.
61034c No.15110062
>>15107081
Do you main Trickster, that is only a problem if you don't actively use trickster. I know your feeling, this wasn't an issue in DMC3 because the arenas were somewhat small but in DMC4 they're big which require you to move around more.
For anyone having this same issue, try to always go back to a default position of Trickster, Rebellion and E&I after you finish your combos.
46fc9c No.15110957
>>15096156
should I just play on easy (without automat though) since im bad at the game? I enjoy it but yeah im bad
01bb78 No.15115232
>>15093529
> Bolverk.
He was so fucking cool in dmc2
hope he a hidden boss in dante's missions for dmc5