fba8fc No.15024620
Darkest Dungeon The Color Of Madness comes out in just over an hour. Get hype.
446dcc No.15024630
Hey shill-kun, wanna /ss/?
c9ed0b No.15024633
>>15024620
I stopped caring about Darkest Dungeon after they nerfed all of the fun builds into the ground and added needless artificial difficulty.
02e55d No.15024637
>hype thread
Fuck off I don't want to talk about video games with you
fba8fc No.15024647
>>15024637
Then go back to cuckchan.
02e55d No.15024648
also there's nothing to get that hype about because it's just a wave combat mode, nothing that substantial or game-changing
fba8fc No.15024654
>>15024633
>artificial difficulty.
You as well. The game is much better with actual balancing just learn how to manage the rng.
d3b51b No.15024657
>>15024620
upon the day of it's release i shall plunder it.
179a83 No.15024658
Why not say "Get Hype!" instead of the passive "get hype."
7d3578 No.15024662
>>15024647
You go back to cuckchan. Darkest Dungeon became shit after the last DLC and you expect us to be optimistic about this?
742cf7 No.15024664
> nerf all fun out of the game
> increase difficulty
> make game all about RNG
> shill wants hype for more of this paid content
1bf82b No.15024665
>>15024630
>tfw i know where that's from
should i be embarassed or not
fba8fc No.15024670
>>15024658
! is cancer.
>>15024657
That day is today but I don't know when it'll get cracked for piratefags. Usually it's pretty fast.
>>15024662
>>15024664
Just git gud instead of relying on meme tactics.
7d3578 No.15024671
>>15024665
>feeling shame as an anon
Well you're probably a faggot.
742cf7 No.15024672
>>15024670
> git gud
> in a game purely about RNG
I'll take a game that requires actual player skill thanks
fba8fc No.15024678
>>15024672
Managing rng is a skill in and of itself.
1bf82b No.15024689
>>15024671
but then i wouldn't fap to /ss/ if i'm a faggot
534b54 No.15024728
>>15024647
>Unironically using the phrase get hype
>Trying to call others cuckchan
What a convincing deflection OP! I'll buy five copies of the newest Darkest Dungeon® DLC titled The Color of Madness™, available on Steam®!
fba8fc No.15024735
7d3578 No.15024746
>>15024670
>acting like a game entirely based rng is a good thing
>>15024678
>managing rng is a skill
Yup you are a faggot. The only time rng focused games are excusable is if the rng creates constant patterns. This extends to even to tabletop games where dice rolls make up the core of the gameplay (D&D is in part shit due to it's reliance on the d20 and the randomness that entails).
Also you've completely dismissed builds which is vital for a game like this to be enjoyable,
>>15024728
>>15024718
>>15024689
>>15024672
How about we just talk about some good roguelikes instead since he loves rng so much?
47169d No.15024776
47169d No.15024777
7d3578 No.15024801
47169d No.15024820
>>15024801
It's not perfect but I get it.
0e7688 No.15024921
>>15024620
>get hype
lmao faggot
b9c83d No.15024955
>>15024670
>git gud
rollan for gud because that's how one gits gud with PRNG based gameplay
8d9342 No.15025006
>>15024955
RNGesus is with you today anon!
37a193 No.15025020
8288fc No.15025031
>>15024620
>Color of Madness
>muh subtle Lovecraft reference
I'll give them credit for picking what's far and away his best work but still.
02e55d No.15025086
Hold the fucking phone, forget the new DLC pack
MUSKETEER IS NOW FREE FOR EVERYONE
8288fc No.15025090
>>15025086
>MUSKETEER IS NOW FREE FOR EVERYONE
Fucking what? Intentionally?
7dc3af No.15025097
>>15024620
Hype is a mental illness.
37a193 No.15025104
>>15025097
my little brother got diagnosed with it the other day :(
780d62 No.15025272
>>15024620
Isn't darkest dungeon a mess of shitty RNG?
425744 No.15025277
Someone post the /v/ guide please.
821b46 No.15025409
Does /v/ not like the game now
a7b86a No.15025417
DD is shit mechanically.
Also full of niggers
7ed615 No.15025480
If you had put more effort into it this wouldn't have happened, OP.
c9ed0b No.15026001
>>15025409
/v/ never liked it after the nerfwaves.
5639f4 No.15026028
>make game so easy it's fucking boring
>braindead retards that can't understand and manage babby-tier RPG mechanics still bitch about "muh impossible RNG"
c297f9 No.15026048
>>15024620
Thanks OP. Time to try the new DLC out.
2ad034 No.15026092
I never got into this game…
My first blind playthrough I spend a long time grinding my A team and they got wiped by a cheesy boss, moved to the back of my backlog after that.
44dab5 No.15026112
>hype
are we finally reddit?
6454ee No.15026139
How long until this is cracked finally? The stupid shieldbreaker dlc still isn't up even.
e9da6c No.15026141
1b9aca No.15026181
>>15024664
Don't forget they now have 7 female characters, and 10 male
The gender ratio is almost equal, which is stupid considering there shouldn't be this many whores in combat, in all of the comics the armies are men, but oh lets have all these bitches start fighting because reasons on the side
Atleast the arbalest got a reskin as the musketeer, so she's not a fucking nigger anymore
5848b2 No.15026200
6454ee No.15026205
>>15026151
>linking literally to the most virus infected bullshit possible
Thanks /v/, I can always count on you to be stupid.
67d819 No.15026215
>>15026205
Pirates deserve every virus they get if they aren't smart enough to just buy dlc.
b193d8 No.15026224
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Well, OP, you really flubbed it. For one thing, you didn't play Dismas' theme, embed related.
c297f9 No.15026239
>>15026205
You must be dense:
>>15026048
I wont spoonfeed you more than that.
So far so good, I have been taking a look at the characters and they seem they have nerfed the OP class that was the Flaggelant (thank god) and they have heavily buffed the low tier characters to make them worth it.
Grave Robber has gotten quite some love.
b091b9 No.15026277
2ad034 No.15026291
>>15026277
Yeah you're right. It is addicting if you get into it but it is never fun. No satisfaction or points in the game where you have something exciting happen, just cold grinding.
b091b9 No.15026301
>>15026291
That's why builds are important in a game and balance is overrated.
I had fun in DaS making builds, I had fun in Diablo 2 making builds.
Making a build that's strong or a build that's average but has interesting mechanics is what's fun about these games.
They make everything just as good as the other so why experiment? Why do anything?
874ca6 No.15026303
>>15026205
>muh virus!!!
Are you a soccer mom or something? Even if you were so retarded as to catch one, how big a mongoloid do you need to be to not just get rid of it afterwards?
cf2b22 No.15026307
Darkest Dungeon Official /v/ review
>+
>while overused, the love craftian theme is pretty alright
>cool class ideas
>simple, but fun gameplay
<-
<RNG the game
<the game is made to fuck you at every possible turn, and with recent nerfs it gets worse
<every new expack adds more layers of fuck you. Unforgiving gameplay is alright, but this is all the game is
<"expacks" so minor they should have been free updates.
Final thoughts: Pirates win again, not worth the asking price
1db9cb No.15026311
>>15024620
>RNG The Game: The DLC
>hype
Well, aren't you lucky shit taste isn't deadly…
2ad034 No.15026319
>>15026301
>DaS and D2
You've got some good taste, I too loved these games. Interesting character creation and RPG mechanics make a game great.
Still have fond memories of tuning my SL 120 DaS character and Dueling in D2 with my Bowzon with .08 WF with an Ohm .
cbeb7f No.15026327
>>15026205
It's almost like we have a share thread for this type of thing.
cf887f No.15026330
Hand of Fate 2 is better. DD is practically a flash game.
b091b9 No.15026338
>>15026319
I spent 40-60 hours making a build around the painting guardian sword because I saw it had S scaling for enchanted and it caused bleeding.
Nothing like some metafag thinking he's going to have it easy with fire scythe, just to get hit with a sword with a dagger moveset for 600 a pop (if low magic resist) and have bleeding pressure build up.
2ad034 No.15026368
>>15026338
My favourrite build for dueling was my SL 125 it was just tuned to be as minmaxed as possible 77 poise, light roll, spells and weapon buffs (had an int and faith version) 2k hp and it had two weapons to deal with any kind of opponent. I used the Falchion and the Estoc also had the Scimitar and Ricard's Rapier.
Spending more than one night just in Townshit dueling up a storm, good times. Oneshotting people with the running R1 with rapiers where it does two stabs never got old.
e9da6c No.15026468
>>15026205
>he has to rely on torrents and igg
02e55d No.15026476
>>15025090
I'm hours late to reply but yes, it's intentional. Best new of the day. I don't even give a shit about the race thing, I just prefer a waifu with a raifu.
e9da6c No.15026484
>>15026476
Are you one of those niggers who call literally anything they want to fug a waifu?
If so, please gas yourself, normalcattle.
593e07 No.15026495
Did they finally fixed the repetitive nature of the game?
02e55d No.15026496
>>15026484
No, I just wanted to use the rhyme.
55abdd No.15026504
>>15024664
>he cant git gud at RNG
7b6721 No.15026553
>>15026535
Good. Vanilla DD is easy to run through deathless (with the obvious exception of the final boss which does rely on cheesing a developer oversight to avoid the instant death phases), despite nu-/v/'s bitching about the RNG bogeyman.
cb8308 No.15026555
>>15024620
>We added more rng so you can watch your party members die in more myriad ways to appease the number gods, and there's not a thing you can do to stop it
No.
db15d7 No.15026558
8288fc No.15026580
>>15026553
Old /v/ would have loved this game and the fact that it is basically the hardcore game that filters out casuals like no other. I guess no one here really wants a challenge or good gameplay anymore.
b0b097 No.15026603
uh oh, OP. you said the word hype. Way to shit all over your thread by triggering all the shill-susceptible anons.
02e55d No.15026604
>>15026535
Cliffnotes of the changelog doc:
>crit rates buffed
>critting also buffs the hero
>buff ticks now apply to the end of the round instead of individual turns
>Virtues can deactivate if the hero (somehow) reaches 200 stress
>increased stun recovery buff
>more anti-stalling shit
>scout chance nerf
>buff to monsters surprised chance on scouted fights
>veteran monsters slightly nerfed
>champion monsters nerfed slightly more
>can now remove positive quirks in the Sanitarium if you really want to
>Abomination allowed to party with the religious types
>Antiquarian brings free skeleton key
>Arbalest can bandage herself in Rank 4
>Rallying Flare removes stealth from all enemies
>Crusader can heal anywhere from anywhere
>Grave Robber's pickaxe ignores PROT
>Shadow Fade now stealths Grave Robber
>Hellion hit hard
>Jester's dirk stab ignores Guards
>Jester's Harvest buffs Finale
>Solo now buffs Jester instead of debuffs enemies
>Leper self-buffs reworked
>Vestal healing buffed
>Vestal's Illumination can remove stealth
>Collector always keeps one Highwayman on hand, the yellow bastard
tl;dr
Everything crits more, hero buffs re-worked to suck less, tiny number changes everywhere, STOP STALLING
cc54ba No.15026607
>>15026504
I'll bite: how does one git gud at RNG?
7b6721 No.15026617
>>15026607
I think the joke is that there isn't enough RNG in DD to affect anyone that isn't a retard, ID-hopping-kun.
e753bb No.15026625
>>15024678
>>15026504
>Managing randomness.
If that was possible you'd see a lot more lottery winners.
b193d8 No.15026651
So does this thing have any actual dungeons in it or is it nothing but onslaughts?
55abdd No.15026655
>>15026607
with 10 in luck, anon.
02e55d No.15026661
>>15026651
It's a dungeon-crawler.
5639f4 No.15026675
>>15026625
>if a happens do x
>if b happens do y instead
<dis is hard fukken dumb rng gaems
e753bb No.15026729
>>15026675
no shit retard thats what everyone does but when you add rng and nerfs to the mix it you get
>if a happens do x
>x longer works in scenario a because of nerfs so do z
>z whilst effective in scenario a has the negative side effect of more stress
>More stress means if b happens you can no longer do y
>Spend time looking for more efficient strategies get bored
>game is no longer fun
<Welp id rather play another game then.
Its fucking single player if it was multiplayer id at least understand.
b193d8 No.15026735
>>15026661
No, that's not what I'm referring to, you idiot. I mean the goddamned DLC. Does the Color of Madness have any dungeons in it or not! Christ.
e753bb No.15026743
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15026735
Seems like it from the trailer
5639f4 No.15026746
>>15026729
Thanks for clarifying that you really are garbage at such an easy game.
e753bb No.15026757
>>15026746
did i say its not easy? I said its not fun.
5639f4 No.15026769
>>15026757
Then we have no beef with each other. Carry on.
c02a7a No.15027335
Did the first mission in the DLC "dungeon"
>can't buy torches or food
>dungeon is just starting room
>once you leave starting room you enter combat
>corpses turn into 5hp crystals that either heal you 2hp when you destroy them or maim the entire party if you fail to do so in one turn.
>enemies keep appearing after you defeat the old ones
>the quest automatically ends when you kill a fixed number of enemies.
>running has no penalties
>essentially a single battle so battle lasting buffs are useful. Skills that can only be used a certain amount of times per battle are probably going to run out of uses.
>win normal loot + crystals you can use to buy dlc exclusive stuff.
That about sums up my first quest done in week 3.
71e079 No.15027358
>>15026239
Just link it, you gigantic faggot.
66f5f3 No.15027361
>>15024664
For all that retarded supposed balancing I was half expecting it to become multiplayer in some way at a point, but no, it's just full stupid.
f22c55 No.15027506
>>15024620
>literally a 2 sentance introduction
>gives no introduction other than "this is out now"
>Get hype
e092f1 No.15027886
>>15026604
>everything crits more
This is what I hate most about the RNG. Not only does the enemy get the chance to wipe out half or more of your health in a single shot which could wipe out a character before you can act, but your team also receives stress because numbers happened and the Wheel of Assfuck decided to sodomize you with a 2x4 wrapped with barbed wire for playing the game. This wouldn't bother me as much as it does if crits were restricted to certain enemies, buffs given by enemy casters or had a crit resistance stat which lowered crit damage or gave a chance to dodge it altogether.
f22c55 No.15028152
>>15027886
haha git gud and just minimize the rng
e092f1 No.15028189
>>15028152
>bumping the thread
I know you're baiting, but come on.
f22c55 No.15028550
>>15028189
yeah i fucked up
c9ed0b No.15029427
>>15026580
>Old /v/ would have loved this game and the fact that it is basically the hardcore game that filters out casuals like no other. I guess no one here really wants a challenge or good gameplay anymore.
No old /v/ would rightfully shit on it for being rng crap.
c1662e No.15029899
>>15026604
Lets see what makes the game more manageable (>) vs things nobody should give a shit about (-) vs making the game more random (<)
-crit rates buffed (lol try a fckn crit build on Sty, get your shit pushed in regardless)
>critting also buffs the hero
>>buff ticks now apply to the end of the round instead of individual turns
-Virtues can deactivate if the hero (somehow) reaches 200 stress (Never going to happen)
<<<increased stun recovery buff
<more anti-stalling shit
<scout chance nerf
>buff to monsters surprised chance on scouted fights
>veteran monsters slightly nerfed
>champion monsters nerfed slightly more
-can now remove positive quirks in the Sanitarium if you really want to
>Abomination allowed to party with the religious types (Nice QoL)
-Antiquarian brings free skeleton key
-Arbalest can bandage herself in Rank 4 (Literally who uses Arbelest)
>Rallying Flare removes stealth from all enemies
-Crusader can heal anywhere from anywhere
-Grave Robber's pickaxe ignores PROT
-Shadow Fade now stealths Grave Robber
>Hellion hit hard
-Jester's dirk stab ignores Guards
-Jester's Harvest buffs Finale
<Solo now buffs Jester instead of debuffs enemies
-Leper self-buffs reworked
>Vestal healing buffed (because fuck, Vestal really needed to cement her spot as No.1 best healer)
>Vestal's Illumination can remove stealth
<Collector always keeps one Highwayman on hand, the yellow bastard
and
<Ton of trinkets nerfed bar Crit Buffs, in which case what the fuck are you using Crit Trinkets
>Hero trinkets get more buffs if you complete the set
-Few of the Virtues buffed to useless degrees
<Tons of the previously workable negative traits have been buffed to make them more annoying
>Some enemies now are linked to Boss Healthbar, notably Drowned Crew, Pounder and Siren are more manageable
<Crocodilian, Baron and Flesh got pretty notable buffs
<<<<<Siren can no longer be manipulated by Debuff Resist, in turn making Antiquarian a ded hero in the water and making her an extremely dangerous boss
<Flagellant is dead in the water, his major abilities have been given usage counts, he has lost his Rank 3 targetting and his shitty Campbuffs (that were balanced by being tiny costs) have been more expensive
<AOE no longer bypasses Stealth if you can't see any of them
<Multiple effects from attacks now roll independently of each other instead of on the same roll
But you forgot the worst 3 points;
1. They listened to Reddit
2. Healing proc is capped at 2x, making Leper tanks and Arbelest healers ded in the water, along with the hero as a whole since that was basically their only respective builds (Arbelest has Mark builds, but Marks are just shit)
3. 2 enemies is now enough to trigger reinforcements, thus making every fight in the game REINFORCE: The Game. Got 2 Swine Bruisers/ SquidShields that'll tank enough hits to take them to R3 because you had to focus the Spewers/Stressbots? REINFORCE. Got 2 hounds/ Polyps that'll dodge 1-2 times and stall? REINFORCE. Just taken out their Stressbots, onto their Damageprocs; but need to take a turn to quickly heal/destress? REINFORCE. Taking a turn to buff your team up to finish off a 1-unit miniboss? Looks like you just did 2 'Stall' moves, so REINFORCE.
This is easily the worst change. Whereas Stealth was difficult to play around; but manageable and fit into the game, this Reinforce change will fuck the entire meta up. The game isn't balanced to facilitate allowing 3 enemies to live (plus now you have less of a chance of juggling stuns, because reasons), this change has singlehandedly destroyed DoT comps, Tankcomps and some other quirky shit that you use to be able to get away with (Byebye Last Crusade!). Jester is now a MUST PICK, since there is not a single other hero which can destress as well; bar Flagellant (Who is a healer/tank hybred for DoT teams), so Crusader is now a pure DPS hero and Houndmaster sadly lost 1 of his 5 uses.
This is what happens when devs listen to reddit. We get this shitshow. Fucks sake, I need to quickly finish my run.
916efa No.15029926
>>15026535
Its mostly buffs you retard
c1662e No.15029938
>>15029926
>
I can tell you have either never played the game or read the patchnotes. I'll repeat, This is easily the worst change. Whereas Stealth was difficult to play around; but manageable and fit into the game, this Reinforce change will fuck the entire meta up
Lots of different little buffs don't mean fuck shit if there are 3-5 HUGE fucking nerfs that make the game an absolute nightmare if the patch goes live. I support DD most of the time, but them even proposing this shit makes me think they may not know what the fuck they are on about and the game was a fluke. Either that, or they listen to reddit; the deathknell of most games nowadays.
b759d4 No.15029975
>>15029938
>implying stalling should have ever been in the game to begin with
c1662e No.15030017
>>15029975
>Implying they put something in the game to replace it
>Implying the change will fuck over Stallcomps more than the aforementioned DoTcomps or Tankcomps
>Implying that the new Reinforce clauses won't trigger in normal gameplay on standard comps; because being left with Double Swine Bruiser or a Protspamming Squidshield is such a rare occurance
>Implying it will kill Stallcomps, when they still work just as well (if not better) on 2-sized unit bosses, literally making the patch useless since Stallcomps usually prefer to stick around on Fungal Behemoths/Swinetaur/BoneChamps/Ucas anyways
Wow, so I'll be adding you to the 'never played the game before' list
c297f9 No.15030041
>>15029899
>ManAtArms stun nerfed, cant' reach position 3
>Grave Robber moving back to combo wtih lunge now has 3 uses per battle and does not stun. They're giving her bonus damage on blight, they really want you to use her awful as fuck blight moves when they are REALLY FUCKING GARBAGE without buffing it first
>Blight is still inferior than bleeding thanks to Crimson Court, only useful in the ruins
>ACC got fucked by 5 points, ACC trinkets got fucked as well except for Focus Ring
>Debuffs from strong skills like Hellion's or Flagellant can't be removed with medicinal herb no more. Gotta love Flag's -25% Healing Done/-25% Healing Received/-3 SPD. Sure he needed a nerf but he didn't need the removal of hitting position 3 while giving to his heals uses, a really awful unremovable debuff and an awful buff that no longer gives PROT
>Occultist deals now less damage over all, at least his weaken curse lowers prot
>The strongest trinket in the game for a single class, Blasphemous Vial (Plague Doctor) got fucked real hard with 20% stun chance removal
>Increasing CRIT of everything which is what casuals whined about and the only way a veteran player can die from (Several crits in the same round with DoTs on it without being able to act)
Now for the DLC stuff
>There's a guy that acts like The Fanatic that goes into a random dungeon that can fuck you over big time (Stress wise more than anything) so if you decide to start the DLC without having good trinkets and or teams prepared this guy will totally stop you from going to X area thanks to his existence. His reward is worse than a shambler torch or map, but not total trash so its nice.
>Free Max Level guys to only do eNdless run so you dont feel like shit if you die trying out stuff there
>New trinkets are either OP, garbage or RNG stuff such as "5% chance of hitting a random enemy" or "chance of debuffing yourself with -5 damage"
And I still dont know why they decided to buff Crocodolian and Baron, those two are bullshit as fuck, Baron is the bullshitiest boss fight I have ever done in the game. Even if I could do the normal game without a single hero dying, except for the forced death at the ending, the Baron would take quite a few thanks to his RNG bullshit "Now I hide, hope that you find me last" and "oops I crit'd you for a lot of damage, now I am going to heal 40 HP, watch me do it again". I had a Baron fight where he was at 12Hp and went to full HP because he wouldn't stop critting his lifesteal shit, why the fuck are they buffing this guy?
On a side note, Mark teams seem now stronger, it made my encounter with this boss a walk in the park as you can see on before-after from the pics.
303e92 No.15030158
>>15024672
All challenging games require skill.
>>15026625
>he doesn't know probability theory
>he doesn't know that casinos ban anyone that uses math to combat the irl rng
>>15024746
>implying there are no constant patterns in DD
>>15026181
>arguing about realism in vidya
>>15026291
>self proclaimed not fun vidya is addicting
>>15026617
>RNG doesn't change anything
>>15026603
>complains about people shitting up the thread
>while shitting up the thread
This thread is full of retards.
>>15026307
Garbage review, at least not as retarded as above mentioned posts.
>>15026495
The most underrated post of the thread.
c1662e No.15030171
>>15030041
Overall the patch seems to be a net negative. Though there are some neat little quirks (GraveRob moving from a Tier 2 to a Tier 1, ABOMINATION CAN FINALLY PLAY WITH CHURCHIES, Critbuffs, Buff ticks on turn end) there is just so much useless shit that only serves to fuck the high end metagame up. Currently speaking from my outlook, the following classes now do not have a single viable build on Stygian, because let's face it you can get away with almost anything on Radiant/Darkest
>Leper (Lost Fleshtank)
>Arbelest (Lost Solosupport, Marks are just shit)
>Plague Doc (Vestel is a better Healer, nerfs across the board to her Util, Blight is shit)
>Antiquarian (No longer Sirenbait, the Bank does her job better and passively)
>Bounty Hunter (Ded before patch, Still ded after patch)
>Flagellant (I get he was a very strong niche pick for longer dungeons; but now he is just a frontline brick of a hero. Overnerfed hero that only needed a few tweaks)
And the following have taken heavy hits to viability
>Crusader lost a lot of his Util, and he is outperformed in a DPS role by others (Low T1-> High/Mid T2)
>Occultist loses the only reason you would take him over Vestal, his damage; but his buffs to Util might counterract (High T2->Low/Mid T2)
>MAA loses lots of his Util (High T2->Mid T2)
>Houndmaster finally gets some nerfs; Stress isn't enough to outtempo Reinforce, Lost a decent chunk of his DPS and Stuns have been fucked (Top T1->Low T1)
If what you say is right about Marks, perhaps Arbelest and Bounty will find niches in Tier 3 (honestly would love to see BH in play, great concept for such poor execution); mostly from the Round limit rather than the Turn limit (which is nice)
Increasing CRIT of everything which is what casuals whined about and the only way a veteran player can die from (Several crits in the same round with DoTs on it without being able to act)
And this is why I have a fully rational hatred of reddit and memestreamers. So many games have been made exponentially worse due to reddit balancing; Gwent, Overwatch and Planetside 2 to name a few off the top of my head. The clear puish for an increase in RNG fundamentally shifts the game from 'plan accordingly and mitigate bad rolls on the fly' to 'walking casino simulator with minor variables'
Not met the roaming boss or many of the new enemies yet though, anything bar stress to look out for?
01b409 No.15030250
there should be a donkey kong mod that replaces the caretaker with cranky and the mansion with kong island
c297f9 No.15030717
>>15030171
I don't know about you, but Bounty Hunter is T1 right now in my opinion. His damage is god damn insane in a mark team and now that you can't stall that much and that he has a mark when he pulls targets it's easy as fuck to land 50-70 damage without hitting a human. He has lost his stun and stun damage, that is true.
Houndmaster may have been nerfed, but he gained +10% damage on mark and his AoE attack is now worth using, quite useful on the Endless mode. His stress heal is worse but now it's more reliable. The only heavy hit he took was on Blackjack and lick wounds.
Arbalest/Musketeer have an incredible damage on Marked targets as well, plus she gets to use certain trinkets that has not been nerfed and are quite strong, like Prophet and Brigand trophies or her unique trinket that gives her damage on 4th position. Sure, she's mid tier even after the buffs, but she has a nice slot in mark teams.
Shieldbreaker is now a Garden Guardian farmer and Brigand killer. Her best area still seems to be Cove. Her blight is now better, his pierce being able to reach all positions is really nice. However the forced dream (3 on Lv1, 2 on Lv3 and 2 in Lv5 areas) are still rather annoying, plus her trinkets are rather worthless now. However her new DLC trinket is one of the strongest.
Flaggelant is now forced to use the backrow AoE bleeding, making him an exact copy of the Plague Doctor but without stun. At least his stress heal is now much better than before, I was able to do long runs only stress healing with him eventhough I had everyone on the verge of getting afflicted (I was hunting the roaming boss who funny enough, is weak against DoTs or Prot Pierce characters, so Flagellant is a good choice).
Leper is… still the worst character in the game in my opinion. At least his battle-long buffs now make him more useful and a killing machine for the front row as long as you give him 2 ACCs trinkets, landing 60-80 damage per hit without being a critical after buffing. I should try him on Endless, maybe he is worth a damn there since you don't care who you are killing if front or backrow since they won't stop coming.
Grave Robber is an amazing unit at the moment, easily on the top right now although instead of putting her on position 2 to start with Lunge, she should start on position 4 for when she runs out of the new stealth skill she has. She works really well with Plague Doctor. Right now on the team I showed before, she's always first and usually critting for 66 damage often enough to think it's normal to crit for her. With her stealth buff and hitting a blighted enemy, she may reach around a hundred damage if she crits.
>Not met the roaming boss or many of the new enemies yet though, anything bar stress to look out for?
You'll find out, the only thing you have to watch for is the roaming boss since the hard part of the Endless run are the mobs that you already now more than the new ones, just remember to clear corpses with Clear Corpses skills or to destroy the crystals that appear from the corpses, they work like a Thrall kamikaze.
My first Endless Run got me two Giants doing Tree Branch smackdown crit left and right. Luckily they can't DoT if they keep smacking so I just kept them all above 1 Hp, this mode is a fucking bitch and it's more "for fun" than for grinding crystals. So far I have gotten better loot looking for the roaming boss than doing Endless.
I would need more time to learn about the new stuff.
27858c No.15030737
>>15024620
color of shit more like
6c52e3 No.15030937
>>15030717
Can confirm Leper is pretty good on endless for the reasons you mentioned.
also the "final" comet boss has zero dodge so he shines there where you need to constantly nuke everything infront of you otherwise the entire party gets wrecked by the shards exploding
e753bb No.15030943
>>15030158
>he doesn't know that casinos ban anyone that uses math to combat the irl rng
rl nerf to combat player strategies is annoying yes. Just like Darkest Dungeons nerfing characters are annoying.
02e55d No.15031070
The DLC includes new Districts as well, I noticed. A couple of them buff the consumables, while the most expensive one outright removes all hunger checks from the dungeons.
02e55d No.15031204
I lost a Champion Jester in Endless Harvest but instead of listing him as dead, he stayed in the hero list with an affliction called "Refracted." He came back the next week, normal at 100 stress, missing the trinkets I gave him. I'll have to try to get someone unimportant killed to see how likely that is to happen.
c1662e No.15031519
>>15030717
As I said, I don't have any Mark squads set up; so a tangible buff to Marking in general+the tickrate change could make the comp much more viable (I'll try making one for my next run, but just started Viscount so I'll be a while). My issues with it previously was the fact the cost of the Mark debuff was not comparable to either attacking them outright or using Util (such as Healing as Occultist/Arbelest), plus the fact you really want to be shredding the Stressnukes and other High Priority targets first rather than wasting a turn on applying a solo-target debuff. After you deal with the priority targets, the remaining targets are easier to just stunjuggle or tank their usually weak blows over burning it down with a Mark.
Houndmaster always was the self-sufficient Util pick, which role in general has been nerfed; thus the Hound has taken a notable hit. His destress is more reliable, but still pails in consistency to Jester (don't forget, you want to be doing burst heals/destress with the reinforce change fucking over drawn out fights). His Lick Wounds nerf has made his dodgetanking a bit less reliable and made him more reliable on the team healer. The AoE buff is nice (especially on niche Hounds for the Flesh etc), but the hit to general DoTs by the Reinforce change has fucked it a bit. The Stun nerf is a flat nerf (on top of the universal stun nerf); so he's lost that.
Overall, Hound has taken notable hits to lots of his builds and can no longer be called top build in the game. imo, Jester has taken the top spot (once again)
Funny thing is that Leper used to have an extremely niche role as a FleshTank, but the change to Reinforce has really fucked that role up-not to mention the universal ACC nerf has hit him the hardest of all the heroes. He isn't the worst (Antiquarian takes that, especially to her loss of Sirenbait), but they really don't know why the fuck Leper is shit and seemingly buff him in ways that only shitters would think are good.
Graverobber and Shieldbreaker have always been top picks. Shieldbreaker has decent Util combined with good DPS and flat the best pure tanking ability in the game. Graverobber is guaranteed tempo damage with decent crit chance. Of the entire patch it appears she has got the best outcomes; her abilities have been buffed, she safely ignores the universal ACC nerf, she benefits the most from the CRIT buffs and her tempo damage is perfect for dealing with the Reinforce changes. Playing with her just now easily puts her in high Tier 1. Overall the best general comp in the game is currently Vestal/Jester/GraveRobber/Shieldbreaker, with Hound just fitting anywhere you want to switch out for most other flexcomps.
Side note; love the aesthetic of the DLC, Colour Out of Space is definitely one of Lovecrafts stronger works, not only for its general concept but for how the pacing is much better than some of his weaker works like Picture in the House. I like how they have kept more succinct t the theme over taking some creative liberties. Shame the patch notes give me fucking conniptions; the more I think about it, the more the obviously just listened to reddit and memestreamers and have reluctantly fucked the balance up catering toward them. Still hold to the Reinforce rework being the worst change in the games current history.
e753d0 No.15031633
>>15029899
>Arbelest has Mark builds,
<but Marks are just shit
We already knew about that :^)
c297f9 No.15031676
>>15031519
I was already mad enough wtih CC changes, mostly due to the new mechanic that got introduced instead of the changes. How easy it is to get CC disease and how easy it is for the heroes to act like if they were afflicted even if you took into account their stress making it quite the bullshit DLC that moved more towards heavy RNG than proper risk management.
I am actually happy with some of the changes like the stun nerfs to avoid boring stalling. I'm ok with a total change of meta. I'm not ok with RNG trinkets, nerfing a character to the ground neither buffing useless shit that noone wants nor needs. Seriously, why insist buffing the blight of GR, for what fucking reason? Why give the Plague Doctor bleeding trinkets when she has an awful bleeding skill? Crimson Court trinkets are, at least most of them, pure garbage.
And seriously, Marks are worth a try now. You are not suppossed to be marking everything or marking at the very beginning of a round obviously, you want as usual to nuke the stressers but when you can't nuke both, an Occultist can mark the second so it gets one shotted on the next round.
Marks shine the most against champion units (Size 2) or bosses a lot. Thanks to how Mark heroes have been buffed it is worth going around with them even without placing marks.
Either way I had fun farming the roaming boss with Hound/GR/Occultist/BH. Even if the boss has 80% PROT, thanks to Occultist weaken and Hound Mark, you can ignore all of that and destroy the thing.
How do you even play that team Vestal/Jester/GraveRobber/Shieldbreaker? Would you even run Lunge with GR after Jester using his Dirk Stab and making sure that SB is always moving forwards and thus never using Ader's Kiss?
c1662e No.15031909
>>15031676
>CC
It's linked to disease resist. Though its a buff to DPS heroes, if you don't want CC on your support/tank just feed them Holy Water. Its still very RNG heavy, but manageable if you work using that.
>Changes
Stun nerfs don't hit stallcomps though, it hits Stunjugglers harder. Agree totally on the increase in unalterable RNG and your point on useless buffs; but I'll see about Marking. Thinking of using Arbelest/Jester/Hound/Bounty, maybe switch the Hound for a Grave or a HWM; I'll trial it in Warrens
>How use the meta team
-Vestal is healbot, with Judgement for self sufficiency and Dazzling Light for offhand Stuns if it lands
-Jester is specced for max destress for -25 Stress per single-target strum, Battle Ballad for sets of Hounds/fast enemies, then Harvest/Slice for Rank 2-3 control when he isn't Util
-GraveRobber is what it says on the can, spamming knives and buffing herself up, sneaking back with Fade when comboed with ShieldBreakers natural movement. I then run double daggers to really bully Rank 2-3 when comboed with Jester (its niche, but multitarget innately chips away at stealth and corpses, so it's nice to run)
-Shieldbreaker kicks it off with Aegis, Pierce for dealing with Prot, Puncture to deal with Guards (especially on High Priority) and a flex slot I usually fill with Expose to deal with Stealth or Impale as decent tempo.
My key issue is that all this anti-stall shit doesn't impact people who are outwardly scumming it, but hits normal play harder. The same way Dark Souls 3 Weapon level dictates invasion ranges, twink users will just minmax to adapt to this and it hits normal players much harder. If they wanted to make stallcomps ded in the water, they should have ramped up standard enemy damage after something like the 25th turn and given 2slot enemies an extremely long reinforce timer (20rounds before the timer kicks in or something). Instead, by fucking up Reinforce clauses the entire game and a good chunk of unrelated-to-stall comps have taken a hit along with making the extremes of the tier list more pronounced (not shifting the meta in any way, but making it more concrete). Already OP burst heroes (Vestal, Jester, Occ, Grave, HWM, Hellion) adapt well to the change, weaker DoT/Util/Tank heroes get shat on (Arby, Flag, PDoc, Antiquar, MAA, Leper, Crusader). Tried out my tankcomp/The Wall (Vestal/MAA/Crus/Leper) and I got 8 loads of Reinforcements called in a Short Ruins, but later used my stallcomp (Occ/Hound/Abom/Hellion) in a pretty standard Long Weald and it did completely fine because 2slot enemyscum is still a thing, only 1 set of Reinforce triggered by accident.
Fundamentally; they said they have nerfed stalling, but have in actuality made it even more powerful compared to other (already weaker) comps. It simply shows the devs have either a fundamental misunderstanding of the games meta, or have been taking advice from some real fucking idiots ahem, ahem, reddit ahem
a4dea5 No.15031951
>>15024672
>>15030943
These are the reasons I won't ever buy this game: I don't want my product being fucked with just because the creator dislikes people having fun.
Some RNG is fine, but devs nerfing shit left and right just to add artificial difficulty is sad.
dce6da No.15032299
I'm excited to pirate this update and play since I haven't touched it since Crimson Court, but I'm worried the new anti stall shit will be obnoxious to deal with. How bad it is?
c297f9 No.15032384
>>15032299
For c1662e it seems that stalling is bad, for me so far I havent gotten a single reinforcement while playing normally, although truth be told I never tried to fully stress heal and abuse the mechanic of the game.
1b9aca No.15033840
>>15031951
agreed, if I'm enjoying it but they change it to be less enjoyable to me, by catering to others, it's stupid
c1662e No.15034098
>>15032299
Antistalling is dependant on your comp. As I previously said, running DoT focused teams and tank focus teams have been hit the hardest; whereas actual stall comps are almost unaffected if you know what to avoid.
Reinforcements are just as annoying as usual; especially since they usually trigger once you are specifically trying to take a singe turn to sort some danger-tier stress/healing issue. They don't appear to have been made harder; but their frequency has just become quite fucking obnoxious (notably spawning from common enemy combos like double 'tanks' that are left after killing Stressnukes and priority; such as 2SwineBruiser, 2FungalZombie, 2Tentashields and 2Boneshields) Going through Viscount, the change doesn't appear to be too bad in CC since most of the enemies there sacrifice health for damage and curse application and I imagine similar would be true in DD since the tanky mobs there also happen to be the priority targets (Preists, Stungrowths etc)
tl;dr bring some high burst damage or be prepared for some needlessly long fights because being stuck with Reinforcements is a fun and engaging feature. polite herbs
02e55d No.15034112
>>15032299
I've been playing as I normally do and I haven't been hit with anything at all.
000b0b No.15034127
I haven't played Darkest Dungeon at all since early beta builds of the game (I think the newest character at the time was Jester maybe?).
What all has been added/changed in the most recent version? Is it worth going back to?
02e55d No.15034148
>>15034127
(nice ID, Bob)
Fucking everything has changed, it would likely be unrecognizable to you by now. The game was actually finished, for one, along with two DLC packs.
In the most recent version many buffs have been reworked so that they can only be popped once a battle but will remain for the entirety of the battle. Crit rates have been boosted, accuracy slightly nerfed across the board. Now when a hero hits a crit they get buffed for a couple of rounds. There's enemies with stealth mechanics and wandering boss fights. The newest DLC is an endless horde mode that rewards special crystals for buying special trinkets. The Kickstarter-exclusive Musketeer class was made available for everyone. Dungeons are no longer grids and are instead twisty zig-zaggy sprawls. Long-ass list of skill and trinket reworks that is probably going to get jerked around in the future as devs take feedback and whining into account. They definitely over-meddle in their game, I have to admit.
You may as well give it a go and see if you like how it is.
c297f9 No.15039488
>>15031909
Mark team is amazing, 4 turns to kill a Shambler Lv5 when I had to spend one turn to position them back.
e3f433 No.15039527
>>15024633
>cant gitgud
>it’s artifical difficulty
LoL at your life
80e615 No.15039641
Is it worth to buy the DLC?
b67b12 No.15039648
>>15039641
The answer is always 'no', you doublenigger.
80e615 No.15039654
b67b12 No.15039671
>>15039654
>goodest-goy-being
02e55d No.15040109
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>>15039641
It's neat for a $5 pack. A lot of new curios, an interesting challenge, really cool aesthetics and music, new Districts, and if you don't care about all that new junk you can at least use the new collectable crystals to trade for other heirlooms to buy stuff with. With the Shard Mercenaries system you don't even have to risk your normal heroes' necks for it if you don't really want to either.
02e55d No.15040112
>>15040109
>new curios
I meant trinkets. Sometimes this game's terminology still trips me up.
ee90db No.15040164
>>15026092
I feel you.
My first blind playthough of super mario I held right because that's what modern games taught me to do and died to the first enemy. Fucking artificial difficulty. Threw my cartridge in the trash after that.
ee90db No.15040166
>>15024620
Not getting it unless the make the jester good again.
02e55d No.15040173
>>15040166
All of his moves buff Finale now, and his Dirk Stab ignores Guards. Crit buffs also make him an absolute madman. However Solo is now a self-buff instead of a debuff move.
02e55d No.15040185
>>15040173
Oh and Finale can now be used from Rank 2 as well as 1.
2a0174 No.15040212
>>15024620
>Get hype.
Are you actually 15 years old or did you just get lost on your way to reddit?
Also, recall how the devs actively searched through the forums for viable strategies so that they could nerf said strategies instead of fixing bugs and outright broken mechanics.
8471a9 No.15040249
>>15024620
>hype thread
>Get hype.
Nice job, Shill. Do they pay you with amazon gift cards?
c1662e No.15044280
>>15040166
>Not getting it unless the make the jester good again.
>Being the literal best destresser in the game, second best support in the game and overall top tier 1 hero wasn't enough
Well lucky for you he just happens to have basically become the best hero in the game. Sadly though, you can't oneshot bosses with him like your shitter ass probably used to rely upon.
ae40d5 No.15045992
>entire enemy party is 3 stealthed pigmen
>"Cannot be hit by attacks targeting only this slot."
>Hound's Harry targets all four slots
>Hound's Harry is greyed out because it has no valid targets
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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ce7455 No.15051738
>>15027358
>calling someone a faggot because they won't spoonfeed you
a05c15 No.15056451
>Look up what the community came up with mod-wise
>It's all weebshit "sexy anime classes"
Really that should tell you what sort of game this is.
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678855 No.15056916
Anyone know how to pirate the DLCs for someone with a legit copy of the game?
a85323 No.15056920
I'd get it but i don't have the dosh
02e55d No.15057027
>>15056451
I really don't understand that shit. Here's a pulpy Lovecraft horror RPG, and they shove anime tiddies into it.
>>15056920
You don't even have $5? That's a shame but at least it's nothing big. It's a neat endurance challenge with some good art and music.
captcha: FAGDCH
73103d No.15057049
>>15026205
Spoken like a true boomer.
c25f70 No.15057051
So why can make any white character into a nigger with a colour change but you can't turn any niggers into white?
I get the sneeking feeling that Red Hook aren't true Lovecraft connoisseurs, there's not even a single mention of kikes!
cbeb7f No.15059041
>>15057051
>So why can make any white character into a nigger with a colour change but you can't turn any niggers into white?
Because white is bad anon. Lowest tier of victim.
>>15056920
Pirate it.
c25f70 No.15059320
>>15059041
I'm saying that it sticks out like a sore thumb when you're an avid fan of Lovecraft's original works.
Hey it wouldn't be hard to make a mod which removes all niggers would it?
I've got the skill and know-how.
b193d8 No.15059762
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Of all the possible melodies the composer could have come up with, why did he have to make the first battle in the farmstead sound like the looping background music in Animal Soccer World?
213894 No.15062065
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>>15059762
I kind of hear what you mean. Like if you slowed the tune down and stripped some of the instruments.
c9ed0b No.15062527
>>15059320
>Hey it wouldn't be hard to make a mod which removes all niggers would it?
How locked down is the game?
b98771 No.15062685
>>15059320
I think character skins are just a few sprites per class, so it shouldn't be too hard. I believe there already are mods that give you white options for the nigger classes.
c25f70 No.15064490
>>15062685
>there already are mods that give you white options for the nigger classes.
Really? Link me please.
>>15062527
You can already disable the arbalest in favour of the musketeer by editing game files. So it won't be too hard to simply swap them out for ones I've drawn instead.
410822 No.15070806
I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing that this dlc has held my interest in vidya the longest in some time.
a64641 No.15070849
I'm actually liking both the DLC and balance more than I thought I would. The new DLC stuff is honestly better than Crimson Court. Where that one was just a huge batch of end game stuff, CoM can be done anytime, doesn't interfere negatively with the main game, and just adds a bunch of neat stuff. It really came out great. I don't regret pirating it.
>>15062527
>>15059320
>>15062685
>>15064490
Character sprites are literally super easy to edit or add.
c297f9 No.15070870
>>15070849
Agreed. Crimson Court feels like an extra difficulty without being bloodmoon/stygian with actual RNG bullshitery that the main game didn't have such as how awful the Curse mechanic is and how thanks to that Fanatic would appear randomly which would mean insta-abandon quest if you are on the early stages of the game or your team is not prepared to face him.
Don't get me started with the fucking Baron. The rest of the Court is actually really nice, but the Curse mechanic, Baron and how Fanatic can appear so early is pure bullshit.
7fb514 No.15070873
>>15059320
Go for it, more power to you buddy
a64641 No.15071041
>>15070870
I think my biggest issue with the Crimson Court DLC is it encourages you to rush through it instead of take it at your own pace. It starts off with an event that reduces stress healing in town, and it perma repeats until you send people into the court to get fucked by a croc. Then from that point on the infestation mechanic makes it a pain. It goes up constantly, and the only way lower it is beat one of the bosses. Since the bosses are pretty difficult and designed for late game you get fucked hard if you have a low level team or do the crimson court quest early. Whenever you start building up heroes one will get the curse because of the high infestation and you have to start at square one.
I like the idea of the Crimson Court (dealing with mosquito infestations and a dungeon you need an invitation to, and the crimson curse mechanic), and I love the aesthetic. I just wish it was handled so much better than it is. Ways to better prepare to avoid getting it, ways for the infestation to naturally shrink or disappear some weeks (and overall just lowering infestation encounters across the board) and adding more normal quests to the dungeon that still require invitations to enter. Something that actually intertwined with the main game, as opposed to something you put off and then rush at the very end.
c297f9 No.15071084
>>15071041
Yes. It's an annoying event that overrides any other event forcing you to start the DLC which is as you say, a race. The longer you take, the more infected people you'll get and the worst part of it, is that they will DIE permanently even if you don't fuck up just because you lack blood for them.
In fact, it came to a point for me to make the DLC bearable, that I would hoard all busts to craft as fast as possible the blood building on the disctrict.
The maps for the bosses are really big, which is nice but always the same map so you eventually learn it or just check the wiki, it's not good but not that bad either. The problem comes later, due to you needing to race your way to kill the boss to save your entire fucking roster from dying due to the damn curse, if you don't know where you're going you spend more time and you may even lose your heroes thanks to surprise Crocodolians.
And I will never stop getting mad at the Baron boss fight. It's truly the most bullshit bossfight in the entire game.
410822 No.15073133
what did they mean by this?
c297f9 No.15074158
>>15074146
That's cool and I would have switched the normal arbalest for what you're doing but now we have the musketeer so you're a bit late sadly.
c25f70 No.15074205
>>15074158
I'm not stopping at Arbalest, she's just the most aggregious example.
4def98 No.15074308