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>>15008998

Breivik did good in the 1vs70 Battle Royale. I dont get your comment however

Everyone shits on Fortnite because muh popularity, but if you really want the cancer that is a Battle Royale game, it's objectively the best one out there. Lots of players, frequent and consistent updates, constantly evolving playstyles and weapon meta. The best players are the ones who are aggressive, not the campers.

>>15009752

This, effectively.

Fortnites building mechanics promote active and aggressive play since you can erect cover quickly and traverse the map a lot faster by building ramps and such. The traps also allow you to play smart hide and seek if you so wish and you can get creative with the bounce grenades.

You can get around a lot of the RNG in pickups through PvP since you can carry quite a lot, by the endgame everyone has fairly equal access to the weapons just from taking out other players and taking their stuff. Fortnite also has shields that can keep fights going and allow you to play riskier.

If BR is what you want then Fortnite should be your first call.

>>15009825

>>15009752

>500 v bucks have been deposited into your account

I think it's ok. Weapons seem to do random damage at times, and you have to use better building controls than the default. Anyone wanna play duos?

H 1 Z 1

HIDE AND DIE

>>15009852

>>15009825

>>15009752

I want you to play dead permanently

>>15009852

Weapon damage is a bit inconsistent. But at least it's better now that they nerfed shotguns. I was getting tired of seeing literally everyone with the same mid- and endgame-loadout:

1. SCAR

2/3. muh OP double-pump

4. minis

5. bolt or rpg/tube

Now, you see a lot more people with a heavy, or doing pump/tac, or using the thermal instead of a bolt. It's nice that there's variety. I feel they should also buff explosives somehow (maybe making them spawn and stack higher, rather than doing more damage) so more people use them other than just when they can't find any guns. It used to be impossible to justify having a slot of explosive,s when having close/mid/far range weapons and heals filled everything, but now that double-pumping isn't a requirement, it frees up a slot if you get a heavy. I see a lot of people going with BOTH a bolt and an RPG/tube, or a bolt and a thermal, if they get a heavy. That last slot is wide open for whatever you find. It's just that explosives aren't really that useful because they have limited range, aren't common, and don't stack very high (what is it, 10?). So, what if grenades and clingers were plentiful and stacked to 50? Imagine carrying around 20 fucking boogie bombs.

Something else I'd like to see is some damage-over-time weapons, and area-affect weapons. Like a gas grenade or something, that would basically do storm damage to any players in the area, until they leave it or until the cloud dissipates. In a lot of PvP games, these kinds of things aren't feasible because engagements are over in seconds, but battles between good players in fortnite can be a minute or longer. How many times have you built up high-ground over someone else, just for that fucker to camp in the build somewhere or maybe try knocking it down? Well, drop some gas down there and he'll have to think twice.

>>15008964

any FFA fps that doesn't have a huge map you can hide in, there are thousands you mong.

>>15015255

I still find ridiculous how you can't kill someone which can fast-build a cube and have enough material.

If the other person is really fast in clicking, you simply can't kill because they will rebuild the wall instantly.

They need to implement a minimum cooldown in building(just like weapon swap have one) or a 1sec reload after 100 material is used, this shit is ridiculous, not even a minigun helps against a fast-clicker.

>>15008964

>Any Battle Royale games where the optimal playstyle is PvP and not Hide and seek?

That's an inevitable trait since trying to fight more than one person at once leads to a lower chance of survival.

>>15015515

Depends on player skill. Breaking down a wall and then replacing it with one of yours is a common tactic, and then you can just edit in a hole and shotgun him in the face. True, you can't do that kind of thing over range, but that's what explosives are for!

Kinda off topic

On my youtube recommended videos I get bunch of shit about Fortnite dying, is something actually happening or just clickbait shit? I don't want to give those channels views. I never even played Fortnite or any other battleroyale, I don't know why they're recommended

>>15009808

>when your mother is a whore and she isn't even pretty

>>15018193

can you give me a quick bogdown on what fortnite is?

Fortnite now has a 50v50 elimination mode that's pretty heavy on the action/PvP aspect of the game. That should satisfy your desire.

>>15009752

I like it because of how mechanical it gets. Having to build a secure structure in a blink to defend yourself, or having to spam stairs + sidewalls to finish someone off. The sniper ballistics are awful though.

>>15018266

Cartoony third person battle royale game with building structures as a central mechanic. It's free, just try it yourself.

>>15015515

They don't even need to click, there's a turbo build option that will keep placing tiles for you if you hold left click down every .05 seconds and it's pure aids. The only counters to it at the moment are c4 and sticky grenades, throw a bunch on the same tile, first will take the wall down and the rest go off killing the cunt behind before the next wall gets placed.

>>15018316

I find it very interesting that, if this number is to be believed, Fortnite ate the biggest chunk out of the LOL playerbase. Not really that surprising since people who play LOL are textbook normalfags, but interesting to see nonetheless.

>>15018316

>detroit become human

>>15018357

>>15018365

They're not playerbases, but viewers. It's measuring who watches what on Twitch.

>>15018495

That chart shows relative proportions, not the total numbers. So for example if the total grew over time it's not representative of each game's individual numbers.

>>15018495

Ah, my bad then, but the same thing I said in >>15018357 still applies.

>>15018266

It started out as a zombie survival third person hero shooter and Rust clone that cost money. It was in the works for several years, but it didn't make any money. Then they just threw together a battle royale mode in a few months and it took off because it's free. They promote the game through promotional skins and content as well as streaming.

>>15018531

> but it didn't make any money

I hear this in other places too but it's wrong. It was very successful, it had 500k pre-orders and for a game that was going to be f2p after a while that's extremely good

http://archive.li/YIkGR

OP, you should just admit you're a casual and play some braindead arcade like Counter Strike. You're just mad there are people out there who consistently win with 0-4 kills because they are smarter

>>15018193

That kind of Thumbnail are so much cancer, can't help but cringe when i get that shit recommended

>>15008964

>>15009752

Totally Accurate Battlegrounds is better.

>>15008964

>Realm Royale

You pretty much answered your question.

>but it is too little imo

Its ok. Mechanics are here, what is left is numbers fine tuning. Already in RR its very crippling go into lategame without any kills.

RR showed people pass to solve hide and seek till late-game problem, expect other games to copy idea soon. As PUBG showed people pass how to fix DayZ and DayZ Showed how to fix Arma. But now we have acceleration to singularity, solutions appears much faster.

Just play a deathmatch game instead.

>>15015262

Quake Champions is okay. Reminded me a lot of Q3A or Quake Live.

>>15015255

>Something else I'd like to see is some damage-over-time weapons, and area-affect weapons. Like a gas grenade or something, that would basically do storm damage to any players in the area, until they leave it or until the cloud dissipates. In a lot of PvP games, these kinds of things aren't feasible because engagements are over in seconds, but battles between good players in fortnite can be a minute or longer. How many times have you built up high-ground over someone else, just for that fucker to camp in the build somewhere or maybe try knocking it down? Well, drop some gas down there and he'll have to think twice

>In today's update they released a "stink bomb" weapon that deals damage over time

Mother of CHRIST either someone at Epic is watching this thread, or I'm fucking psychic!

I still mantain these threads should be banned on sight, just like what the mod team decided with the ASSFAGGOTS ones.

They only bring filth to the board, just look at the replies: People unironically defending these "games", people baiting with "you hate it because it's popular" and "that's because you suck".

Every thread is a copy-paste of the last one, and they are a beacon for cuckchan to stay here.

Remember good games?

>>15023510

No.

>>15023513

>Another (1) using ad hominem to disregard the criticism

The fuck are you faggots coming from?

I argumented my criticism, so no need to strawman that hard.

>>15019030

It'd be a lot better if they removed the bullshit get 5827889572935926759787629356279569 honors to unlock a new character when you don't even know if they're good or not. That and microtransactions.

>>15023519

>Waaah someone is criticizing something and that leads to discussion

>Better report them for hurting my feelings

Did you get lost on your way to plebbit? This isn't a safespace and my criticism is argumented.

Instead of people discussing, i don't know, loadouts or weapons or whatever, you have this:

>better than pubg xdxd

<omg building simulator ripoff, go back to china

>pubg fags salty xdxd

<this game's formula is repetitive as fuck, what's the point to hide and seek for 20 min, get killed by a sniper, and then repeat?

>omg you so salty git gud xdxd

>being able to insta build covers is shit and an absurd mechanic

<omg another salty pubg fag xdxd

These threads are cancer, they have always been and they will always be.

>>15023532

Filter him.

>>15023540

Yeah, I wanted to give him the benefit of doubt and thought he was legitimally lost, but now it's obvious he's just a troll.

>>15023544

Yeah, we've got an influx of autists recently. He's doing the same thing as another (((anon))) on a different thread.

>>15009825

Fortnite is a piece of shit. Battles play out in 1 of 2 ways:

1. gay headglitching and fast peeking sniping (sniper rifles don't lose first shot accuracy upon uncrouching)

2. storm closes in, finally forcing teams to stop boxing themselves like pussies and actually fight

There's your (you), faggot.

>>15023457

Finally something to kill the camper fuckers.

>>15023532

>This isn't a safespace

And yet you're the only one crying because there's a thread you don't like and it triggers you, so you think it should be banned just because you don't like it.

Just hide the thread and move on, you retard.

>>15023559

Confirmed for someone who has literally never played or watched the game being played. Most people don't even play squads, oh — excuse me — in "teams".

>>15023509

>"that's because you suck".

>implying you don't suck

>>15008964

Try playing Fortnite instead of PUBG it works a lot better.

>>15018193

>Fortnite spread like a disease, the game's cash shop probably makes more money than some countries. It's the poster child for Nu-Games, and I hate everything about it; Unreal Tournament deserved better.

Fortnite spread because it was free and because it was a genuine evolution of the genre. You might not like the genre and fair enough but it really does build on the foundation of PUBG in a positive way. The destruction shit was inspired.

>>playing a cashgrab of game made on large map with random loot that you lose with random player placement that has 0 incentives besides killing random idiots

stop supporting this garbage that wants be a "game"

>>15008964

If the goal of the game is "be the last one standing out of a massive free-for-all" then the best strategy is generally to avoid risk unless you're absolutely sure you will win a given engagement, and then go hamburger in the last few seconds.

If they changed PUBG so that the circle's position was fixed and was constantly moving at an ever accelerating rate rather than shrinking in waves, the game would be faster paced. Force the players to all rush for the center guns blazing without any time to think about tactics, and you'd have the 100-man rdm you're hoping for.

>>15036954

The thing is, every time you win an engagement, you come out of it with better weapons, sometimes more healing items, (and for Fortnite) more building materials. Someone who has a handful of kills will be much better prepared for a final confrontation than someone who has been camping all match. Also, since they get in battles more often, they'll just be a better player overall.

Camping is a great strategy… if you always want to make top-5 and no farther.

>>15018531

It also killed Paragon

>>15018357

I think there is a number of people who will always follow the current hype , Those are the worst kind of normals that treat games as skype with extra activities

>>15025168

What a way to completely miss my point nigger, learn to read before you try to be sassy.

My criticism is based on the quality of these threads and how the discussion is non-stop derailing even by people who play them, and I use that point as a base to criticize the game and how about the simplicity/braindeadness of it doesn't give room for discussion, thus making threads about them pointless.

Like this anon said >>15038864

>games as skype with extra activities

Off with you, go back to cuckchan.

>>15038905

And there are faggots who still doubt about BR threads attracting cuckchan cancer. Unbelievable.

I'm starting to believe these apologists are cuckchan themselves.

>>15038916

It's the same cancer as the people who would camp in cod2.

>>15038883

The only one derailing is you.

You have a victim-complex. You even came BACK TO THE THREAD ABOUT THIS GAME YOU DON'T LIKE, just to complain some more. Fucking loser.

In fact, I'm gonna bump this thread just to piss you off.

who cares? battle royale is decent for movies, but it's shit for games

>>15042326

Why does paladins have so many characters that would look better in the context of either their own games or in an established franchise? Is that the shtick, having a load of characters show up in a sort of multiverse setting to do battle with each other?

>>15042326

I always felt, design-wise, Paladins was better than Overwatch, though both games have the same problem, and that it's each character looks like they can be in their own game.

Consistency is better in Paladins though. I do miss the original TF 2 design philosophy though but even valve themselves fucked that up with hats.

>>15043626

>>15043732

It's called having decent artists and shitty developers/directors.

>>15008964

This wouldn't be a problem if instead of having just a slowly shrinking boundary they also incorporate random hazards appearing in zones like in Battle Royal and Hunger Games, and also air drops of powerful or useful equipment forcing people to move constantly or enticing groups of people to gather in one location. The shrinking death zone is only good at bottling the remaining survivers into one tiny area to force them to kill each other but that only ever happens at the end.

>>15043459

Name one movie besides the original film that was decent.

>inb4 hunger games

>>15053636

Without that zone the game would never end or atleast last for hours because the maps are the size of a major city.

>also incorporate random hazards appearing in zones like in Battle Royal and Hunger Games, and also air drops of powerful or useful equipment forcing people to move constantly or enticing groups of people to gather in one location

PUBG fucking did both.

>>15053636

Fortnite has airdrops, but they're of limited utility. Random events are fucking stupid. You're better than the other player, but a fucking meteor randomly fell on your head, so you lose. Literally nobody wants that; just loot drops in the beginning are bad enough RNG.

>>15008964

No. It's fundamental to the genre.

Why are they calling a Last Man Standing-match for Battle Royale?

I mean, it's stupid.

>>15053422

How does that shit even happen though? Luck?

>>15008998

>gunning down innocent, unarmed children

>battle

>>15008964

Fortnite has minimal hiding. Realm Royale has literally zero hiding.

hiding may even get you to top 5 but it won't win you the game unless it's 100% luck

by top 5 everyone will have better eq than campers

>>15074895

I think it's trendy, just like MOBA/Zombies/Minecraft/WW2 was

Remember when there once was a new jet fighter simulator almost every month?

>>15074895

The progression is when you git gud.

>>15053545

>playing fortnite

Go back

>>15075409

>>15075260

If I wanted to enjoy arcade gameplay, I would play an arcade-y game, like Mario or Tetris. Battle Royale games are functionally team-based shooters. Unlike other team-based shooters, however, both games are severely unbalanced. Pistols do jack shit, and both games quickly become long-range sniper fights. In Fortnite, close combat is determined by who has a shotgun. Either you get one-shot in the head, or the other guy does. Any other weapons are sub-par save for in team-based situations, but still aren't much better.

My issue with the games is that even if you become "skilled" at the game (good at avoiding detection, good aim with variety of weapons, solid understanding of game map and mechanics) you still have just as much of a chance as some shmuck who hid under a dumpster the whole round. There is little benefit to mastering these skills because the most rewarding method of play is to avoid combat.

>>15074895

It's fun if you're good at it.

>>15064838

Because Last Man Standing doesn't involve scrounging for resources

>>15008964

Mavericks Proving Grounds has objectives and other shit to do, just wait for that to come out, pubgay is h1z1 reskinned.

>>15076624

Is Mavericks the one told to have 1000 players?

I managed to get the TAB when it was free and I have to say it's a good balance between Shooting and Fun ,I can do long range magic with the Winchester and I really enjoy that gun ,but the game has many problems the same as the other Unity shooter Tarkvo

20 second lags ,low tickrate , armor not doing anything/failing to register,Hacking all the time and no anticheat

So I think to myself ,I would like an upgrade on the shooting I own Tarkov Citizen(I bought the standard 50% so I don't care)but it's unplayable right not and probably will be for the next few months(I hope for 0.9)/years or forever ,I don't like Fortnite for art style ,building and 3rd person

The only upgrade in BR seem to be either Unknown Citizen or Tarkov Citizen(selling promises , jpeg trading , greed , bugs and hacking all the time,same problems with these games)

God fucking bless I bought Squad-The game has problems but mostly people related-mechanics are good but people are retarded ,At this point I am looking forward to seeing what Black Ops 4 will do to BR

Personally I think realm royale fits that category early game but late game does become a hide and seek fest. at least the horses let you traverse pretty fast

>>15077126

Someone needs to come up with a really good way to do this , Airplane/Bus can lead to everybody dropping into a killbox , but it also gives you a choice to drop there if you want a shoot out , or drop further if you want a calm start-but probably rush for circles

If there is no bus , and players are spread evenly(depending on player count to map size) you can have situation when you don't meet enemies until last 2 circles .And you can really feel the lack of choice-Especially if you like to drop into killboxes from time to time(to practice shooting for example)

A good reward for fighting approach is the loot , if you can kill and take the loot that takes less time than looting 10 spots ,and people tend to gather good stuff and lots of it

>>15042326

Realm Royale is shit. I have no idea how someone can play that game and think it's good.

>>15074895

>Unless you're playing with friends

Why would you ever not be playing with friends? This is not a genre focused on solo play.

>but even if you win what's the point? There's no reward

Do you need more grinding and loot box unlocks to feel like a game is worthwhile or something? Are you 12?

>>15075010

>Remember when there once was a new jet fighter simulator almost every month?

No.

>>15077126

>If a true PUBG competitor wants to succeed (babby's playground Fortnite and HiRez's clone doesn't count), they will need to match PUBG's features while also solving the dead time problem in their own unique ways.

Realm Royal already showed the way. Reward players with extra loot that matters that can be obtained only from the active play: killing or capturing points. So campers would be put into heavy gear disadvantage in the final fight.

>>15079258

>>15079277

>Why would you ever not be playing with friends? This is not a genre focused on solo play.

Solo play is explicitly what is advertised in a battle royale game.

>Do you need more grinding and loot box unlocks to feel like a game is worthwhile or something? Are you 12?

Im saying I don't understand the appeal. Children would enjoy that kind of trash, which explains why PUBG and Fortnite have skins and cosmetics. My issue is there is very little sense of progression or change over numerous matches. In any other game, you would be able to measure your skills in different gamemodes, or even against others in the same server. In these games, skills are second to luck (what you find in random loot) and waiting (hiding somewhere until you're forced to move). Neither game has custom servers, and therefore the people you play with are always new faces. I'm curious as to why so many people play the game. Is it really just "it's popular and free?"

>>15079986

>Solo play is explicitly what is advertised in a battle royale game.

I have never met anyone who plays any battle Royale solo. Not a single person. It is inherently a coop genre.

>In these games, skills are second to luck (what you find in random loot)

Maybe in pubg, but that's the only one where you can actually get fucked by rng.

>and waiting (hiding somewhere until you're forced to move).

Except for the part where that puts you at a major disadvantage.

>and therefore the people you play with are always new faces

And? That helps you improve more because you're learning how to adapt to all situations rather than spending forever focusing on countering one person's tactics like an autist.

>I'm curious as to why so many people play the game

Because it's the only skill based competitive genre out there with a decently sized player base right now. It's just pure, refined competition with every other distraction stripped away.

>>15080765

Couldn't say better, except for the coop trolling part.

>>15079258

That was 20 year ago. You could be sure there will be review of one in every issue of you favourite game magazine.

>>15008964

Yes, it's called arena shooters. Unreal Tournament.

>>15075874

>you still have just as much of a chance as some shmuck who hid under a dumpster the whole round

This is completely incorrect. As mentioned before, the only thing bushcamping the whole round will do is net you a lot of #3 or #2 finishes. I've seen good players go against one of those types, and they usually trap-kill them or wait them out in the storm to make them look like the losers they are. There's no way someone like that is going to be able to hold a candle to the skills of an aggressive player. There's a lot of luck in the game, sure, but that only affects who wins among the very small number of the best players in that match. Luck can't bridge the gap between a veteran and a noob.

>>15079986

>I'm curious as to why so many people play the game

They play to win. Some people have a personality type where the main motivation of a game is actually to AVOID LOSING; it's easy to identify the type, they prefer strategic games, all singleplayer, and get upset if things don't go their way. There's nothing wrong with this type, by the way; I'm like this, too. But other people play a game to win, and they don't care if they lose a hundred times before getting one win (or some other metric if they aren't yet good enough, such as surviving to top-5, or besting their highest kill-count or whatever). Sure, there's a lot of kids and teenagers who have delusions of becoming a massively popular and wealthy streamer, and winning tournaments, so they grind to try to reach that level (the video game equivalent of the bullshit American Dream). But there's also a lot who are just fucking around. They don't take the game seriously; they don't analyze it and worry about SJWs and market shills and teh ebil Jooz and the future of video games. They play the game because it's enjoyable. Mess around for a few hours, maybe win, probably lose, explore new weapons and mechanics, try some silly shopping-cart tricks, laugh at the stupid shit that happens. Call this "normalfag", but from the outside looking in, THEY are the ones having fun; you are not.

Fortnite

>>15090273

The grand majority of games are singular experiences that are largely the same for everyone who plays it. Exceptions are sandbox/builder games and very open-world RPGs, where someone can put their own unique stamp on the way the game is played. But for everything else, you don't "affect" a game, you just play it. I don't even think you know what the fuck kind of point you were trying to make.

>>15090163

>implying

>>15109098

You are free to subjectively enjoy something. I am free to be objectively correct.

>>15090273

Is masturbating not fun to you?