/v/ - HAPPY E3 EVERYONE

>>14942780

>In the past less kids were playing games.

Its the opposite

Video game industry has failed to attract a new audience so now everything caters to the failed manchildren and their nostalgia.

games were made to eat shekels from school kids you reddit baiter

>>14942780

>Back then

Back when? The 90's? Every kid had Nintendo or Playstation. The early 00's? Every kid had a PS2. Kids playing games has been a thing since the late 80's. You're full of shit and your thread is shit.

Kids played plenty of videogames back then. What changed is that videogames obtained mainstream appeal, and in order to sell more games, they were dumbed down to be playable by the ever-broadening market.

>In the past less kids were playing games.

Found the flaw in your argument

You know who else didn't play games "back then"? Chinks, Hueniggers and other third world people.

>>14942794

>Kids playing games has been a thing since the late 80's

*the 70's

Don't forget the Arcades, Atari, and all that shit

>>14942787

Haven't they been doing everything to cater to a new market though? Which mix degrees of success?

>hurr kids ruining everything because raisins

What a shitty thread.

>>14942780

The games marketed at kids and teens were considerably more mature.

The whole thing around gamergate and the microsoft leaks should have shown you how burgers want to control kids from a very young age and aim to reduce violence and maturity in the media kids can consume. Thus a lot of relatively mature vidya went into retard tier.

Video games were shit from around 2008 to 2012, its been getting better steadily since then.

Kids always loved playing adult games, and even when a game is marketed as "mature content" children are still a big part of the intended public

>>14942787

This couldn't be more further from the truth, if the industry truly were targeting the old fans, we would still get games with the design philosophy of the '80s/'90s, not to mention they would be politically incorrect to today's standard. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>14942794

If OP would have said the PC, I would have been more inclined to believe him because that would have actually require knowledge to operate and no adult would let a kid near a computer since it costed so much money.

>>14942800

Correct. This is part of the reason.

>>14942865

Even if it wasn't leaked by gamergate, this is so obvious that only retarded Leftist disagree out of ignorance and because they subconsciously push it because their college professor brainwashed them, and maybe some Alt-Right people due to not caring about something as insignificant as video games, but that is how they have managed to infiltrate, slowly, like cancer, through the culture. First with academia, then entertainment, and little by little when you play these games, watch these movies, TV, etc, slowly change your neurological pathways to whatever indoctrination/propaganda. You have girls walking around these days with such toxic attitude that they truly believe they can take on a man.

>>14942872

I agree with this statement.

Companies and game series that were shit from 2008 to 2012 are still shit. It was time when gaming hit mainstream and AAA titles went to shit. They remained as such to this day.

Gaming is getting better because smaller companies realized the niche and started doing what people wanted.

OP is actually talking about AAA market.

>>14942875

It is true.

What is even more surprising is people seem to forget that.

>>14942908

>If OP would have said the PC, I would have been more inclined to believe him because that would have actually require knowledge to operate and no adult would let a kid near a computer since it costed so much money.

You mean M$ computers, there were a lot of cheap personal computers that had some games made for them.

>>14942970

>Anyone who doesn't like multiplayer lootbox garbage is an autist

Spotted the redditor.

>>14942970

>Lower standards for technical game quality and more exploitative business practices aren't a problem

>it's you that's the problem

Whatever you say.

Used to be only kids played games and you were a social reject if you played them as an adult. Should go back to that.

>>14943076

Where's the inclusivity on that goy?

This has to be the dumbest OP I've seen in recent history. The only way someone could believe this is if they were a poorfag who didn't have video games until young adulthood and they're projecting. Video games have been children's toys since their inception. The difference is they used to be a niche thing for people with higher average intelligence and problem solving skills, and now they're lowest-common-denominator shit like cable TV programming.

Faggots like this. Looks like a Jew and is scared of tits.

>>14943090

>Games didn't use to nickel & dime you with cosmetic dlc

I need to correct you anon. Games didn't use to nickel & dime you after fifty and sixty dollaring you .

>>14943251

>N-Glasses

Nigger glasses? That's a good point about the nature of digital goods, it has certainly had a profound effect on the industry.

>>14943267

It's suppose to be nostalgia glasses, this nigger is trying to imply the shit we have now is better.

>>14943181

>scared of tits

He literally said he liked the tits in the game, and is going to preorder the game, just because of tits, even though he consideres the game trash. I don't even who that faggot is, but you should at least watch the two minute video you post, before talking out of your ass.

>>14943304

<Why do all you guys talk like such victims

>That lisp

>THAT FUCKING NOSE

Jesus i never wanted to see what a gay semite sounds like

>>14943323

Anon, back then "planned expansions" meant actual future content not cut from the production of the original game.

>>14943337

And then the occasional DLC in modern days that actually adds to the game gets praised for years. Point is, aiming to get money from customers is not the problem. Failure to deliver a product they want is. Or pandering to a demographic that wasn't your audience is a problem. Or deciding your award winning sound designer should be fired for their conservative views is a problem.

However, at least vidya hasn't completely dropped the ball like comics. Or movies. Or television. I am down to weeb shit, and games.

>>14943394

That is partly because we reacted strong back in 2012.

Gaming would have nosedived if we have done back in that era.

>>14942780

As a marketing director for one of the AAA studios, I can say that the main problems with modern video games are:

a) not enough ethnic and multi-genderal and sexual diversity in game characters

b) not enough cut scenes, especially in action games. More storytelling is needed, with film-quality animation

c) not enough celebrity voice overs.

d) not enough micropayments at all levels of all games

e) not enough moral and political teaching, especially to increase political correctness and social justice

f) not enough racial/gender/ability diversity in development teams, especially having more lesbian, dyed hair, muslim disabled women as writers

There is of course the problematic problem of too much toxic masculinity, but that will be eroded with time and by increasing diversity in general.

With those things solved, games will finally become what they were always meant to become.

Follow me on twitter,

Max Shekelstein

>>14943166

10/10 post

>>14942780

>Back then video games were made for young adults.

hello underage

Video games were never good, film was and will always be a superior artform and medium.

>>14943450

Good list. Don't forget the constant pandering to retarded manbabies to keep them in a state of infantilism. Quick expulsion of adults games. We should have been getting more Fallout1/2 or an evolution.

>>14943464

Here is your (you).

>>14942787

>duhhh they're rehashing old ips that means they're catering to the same people right guys?

No retard, they're using old IPs to sell to the new audience, which was created by the likes of Call of Duty and Minecraft. Dudebros that go clubbing every weekend never used to play Call of Duty. Now they do because it appeals to them. Turns out, there is a larger pool of dudebros than there are nerds who have good taste in video games, so they appeal to the dudebros. It's not rocket science.

It's just the industry evolution; first, a bunch of passionate people, later mega corporations that rely heavily on marketing.

It also become a great media to spread propaganda so it has to be heavily controlled.

>>14943499

>Your marketing demographics don't exist it's just a strawman

Of course, that's why games are marketed and developed completely differently than 12 years ago, because a new demographic did not appear.

>>14943490

Can't reply to that retard because I hid his shitty post. Dudebros do still very much exist and are detrimental to the industry. They're just 30-something now with a roastie and a couple of fuck trophies from their clubbing days. They spend even more time gaming and are passing their shit gaming tastes onto a new generation. A huge chunk of Ubisoft's/Activison's/EA's audience is dudebros. They buy consoles and suck dick.

>>14943450

>One button combos in fighting games

Nigger genre, who cares?

>RPGs selling you costume when you used to just find that shit in the world

Hasn't affected a single good game. Also outside of cRPGs, in most games your armor upgrades didn't confer visual changes.

>Having to link to shitty extra accounts to unlock stuff on disc/download

Pirates win again.

>Devs pandering to people that don't play their games

Again, hasn't happened to a single good game. If they want to chase those shekels and neglect their core audience, let them.

>Single player modes that require you to be online at all times

Not a single good game does this.

>Games with content locked behind shitty toys

Anon why are you playing nu-bing bing wahoo?

>Console makers unable to make a decent controller anymore

DS4 is the best hybrid 2D/3D gamepad in existence. Stop buying shitbox controllers.

>Console companies standing in the way of crossplay on other formats when its none of their fucking business

They're acting in their rational self interest, as every business attempts to do.

>PC Gamers taking DRM up the ass

Pirates win again.

>Slowing down progression in games so you will buy crappy micro transactions bullshit to speed it up to normal levels

Play better games.

>A certain handheld RPG having two versions so kids nag their parents to buy both

You mean like Pokemon Red/Blue all the way back in the mid 90s?

>FIFA and Madden being a thing

Shitskins need vidya too. Their existence does not hurt me in any way.

>Mobile games

Same as above, except for women.

>Youtubers and fad games

Who cares?

>>14943542

It was just a single example of the new demographics. Or do you honestly think I was including dudebros when I mentioned Minecraft? No, the newest demographic are the soyboys you mentioned who played Minecraft in their teens and pre-teens. Remember that that shit started becoming popular in 2008, it's been ten years now.

>>14943149

>Also, weren't they able to dodge some kind of import taxation by classifying it as a children's toy rather than a computer system?

NES was marketed as a toy because no retailer would carry a "video game system" because of the crash.

>>14943581

>Don't try and figure that autism out no one can.

I've stopped trying to figure out Nintendo. People like Super Mario I guess. Its normalfag stuff like Batman and Dragon Ball.

It all boils down to: kill leftist soyboys and feminists, and games will improve.

>>14943542

the remaining dudebros must be collecting massive amounts of free pussy with the rise of soyboys straight up letting them take all the girls

>>14943716

> and even controllers with a passion due to who it welcomed in.

kinda a stupid hill to die on, part of what makes PC gaming good is you can use whatever tool you want to play your game and some games play better with controllers

>>14943716

Controllers have existed since Ralph Baer's console existed in the 50's. They've literally existed since before PC games. I'm a PC gamer myself, but I hope for his sake you're misrepresenting his opinion.

>>14943943

>50's

I mean 60s. My memory is shit.

>>14943989

>This is usually due to a protein, sugar, and fat deprived diet.

I hope by "sugar" you mean naturally occurring sugars like those found in fruits and not cane sugar.

>>14943755

>>14943943

IIRC, He believes that a keyboard is "perfect" for 99.9% of genres.

I remember a rant he described controllers in a string of negative descriptors including "disgusting".

While he's not wrong on how bullshit modern vidya can be (lying trailers, jewish practices, dumbing down), I think he does have a hate-boner for consoles as what they represent the symbol of what they welcomed in.

It's like hating on Apple/Smartphones for how disconnected society is. Or hating Twitter/Social media for how people now need a drip-feed of dopamine and can't tolerate being not- perfectly entertained every second.

Or hating SJW for being the useful idiots AAA and politicians use to ruin the industry/world.

I can understand his hate in that respect (imagine watching your hobby burn to the ground for 30+ years), but I still don't know if he's actually got a short temper or he's putting it on for views. I regret to say it's the former.

>>14944041

>IIRC, He believes that a keyboard is "perfect" for 99.9% of genres.

I wouldn't want to play a platformer, action game, racing or fighting game with a controller but that's on him. I've watched a bunch of his videos and his dismissing of anything console related can be a little heavy handed but i understand where he comes from.

>>14944060

with a keyboard**

>>14943695

>hipsters don't score pussy

See the rise of the bearded soyboy was not without reason and no its all confused with soyboys mimicking cool hipsters, you can;t instantly spot who is how and this was intended.

>>14943716

>Hates consoles with a passion due to who it welcomed in

NES and Super NES wasn't the problem, and frankly an argument can be made that people like him are simply salty at what the old ones could do that their precious commodores, MSXs and the like could not. The race to normalfaggotry i'd say started in earnest with the FMV genre in general(something that was in no short supply on PC, but very limited on consoles for one reason or another) and the Playstation with games like Metal Gear Solid, and the rise of Jap RPGs, games that prioritized story telling as opposed to, well, actually being a video game.

>>14943989

You seem to know what you're talking about. I do see some nu-male mannerisms in me, tips on getting rid of them?

>Back then video games were made for young adults

No they weren't. The fuck you do you think why gaming was such a stigma back then? The only games every truly made for adults were PC and Amiga games, which were true wild west's in terms of quality. Sometimes you'll find great gems like Doom, Quake, Lemmings, and Zeewolf, but you had also four times as much experimental hit and misses released.

>>14944060

> fighting game with a controller

How you idiots should be told again and again? For fighting games:

Hit box > keyboard > stick > piss > shit >your moms ass > controller

>>14944031

Cane sugar is fine. The problem is that it's often a secondary ingredient in things with added corn syrup or oils. Corn syrup based sodas taste worse and make me feel more sluggish the next day than real cane sugar sodas. Not to mention most sodas using cane sugar don't have as much sugar in them because cane sugar is far sweeter than corn syrup. Same applies with food products. So much of Little Debbies snacks are a very small amount of cane sugar and a lot of fake sugars and a fuck ton of various oils and soy byproducts.

Obviously you shouldn't stuff your face with things made with cane sugar generally have fewer negative effects on people's health than things made with a bunch of corn/soy byproducts and a ton of oils.

>>14943989

>More dominant men hate it since it shows how weak they are

I think I read this a long time ago when the whole bullying shit was at it's peak and I was trying to understand why some people get bullied. According to anthropology, dominant men hate weak men because it could mean life or death for the tribe. It's the whole "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link", which is why some bully them, to get them out of their shell, make them stronger so to speak.

It's like those stories that you hear from the marines, your higher rank officer sometimes bullying the less rank ones and "hazing" them for months until they lash out and make themselves fully dominant. Once they have proved themselves they often get the officer and the crew buy the low rank beer and can consider him part of the crew.

It's amazing how we still don't understand male group dynamic.

I think you made a mistake with the sugar thing, like the other anon said, sugar from fruit is not bad.

>>14943989

>We're in a society where a man having muscles is rare instead of the norm, so the lesser men are certainly unlikely to have it.

That's not true at all, I think you live in some bubble (USA?). Being muscular is in no way rare, but beer gut obesity I'm sure is common in poorer people.

>>14944209

>It's amazing how we still don't understand male group dynamic.

Kind of goes hand in hand with the stereotype about nerds.

>>14944209

Kids who are hit and screamed at by their parents experience hugely elevated cortisol levels which leads to psychopathy. Under normal circumstances, these kids would be thrown into tribal warfare and either get killed or successfully conquer the enemy tribe. Instead, they're forced to sit still in a school system designed to break them of any individuality and instill unquestioning obedience to state authority figures. These psychopaths then chronically abuse their peers as an outlet for their tendencies. The abused peers develop into sociopaths, and become dysfunctional young men who are largely incapable of functioning in society.

>sugar from fruit is not bad

Your body treats the sugar from candy identically to fruit juice. Using sugar for a short-term natural pick-me-up is fine, that's what our ancestors did. Pumping yourself full of sugar all day is not, regardless of the source.

>>14943687

This

>>14942908

>If OP would have said the PC, I would have been more inclined to believe him because that would have actually require knowledge to operate and no adult would let a kid near a computer since it costed so much money.

I dunno, I was doing Another World and Monkey Island on a 386 sub-10 back then on the regular.

>>14944432

This as well, I learned English by playing games like King's Quest, Leisure Suit Larry and Monkey Island when I was in first grade, I was miles ahead of my peers in English until the end of my school career. Back then being good at English was not a given, these days it's basically expected to be more than decent in English since it's everywhere around you.

>>14943425

>Thomson was the first.

>Endless "media" coverage.

>Not a puppet.

Does anyone have the pictures of the senators the where trying to band vidiyas prior to Thomson, the ones with the "funny no pork diet" kind of last names?

You're full of shit, every tyke that's older than 4 played vidya gaymz back in ye olde days.

>>14943989

>or relaxed & self-assured (casual like a t-shirt and jeans).

So you mean looking like a nigger?

>>14944060

>>14944041

>>14944132

you guys could have just said flight sims and joysticks

>>14944664

I don't remember the south wearing t-shirts like niggers, the farmers would wear jeans but they never bothered with t-shirts, that was always a nigger thing.

>>14944929

that's semantics, the point is with a PC plug in the tool best suited for the game you're playing because you CAN

>>14942787

So many words, but nothing was said.

>>14944977 (checked)

Don't worry, there's a lot more that goes into being a nigger than a shirt.

>>14944977

This is a nigger t-shirt.

>>14945082

you're gonna have to explain to me how it's a niggers t-shirt because, maybe i'm naive, but it seems ridiculous to associate a simple shirt with niggery

>>14942780

Games are shit because in the past people put a fuckton of times into their creations with limited resources. As a result they focused more on gameplay and function rather than what normalfags value today(story and graphics). Bottom line is that it's become a much more business centric industry and actually having a solid game isn't necessarily the best way to rake in cash.

>>14945107

>but it seems ridiculous to associate a simple shirt with niggery

Especially when more often than not, they don't even wear them.

>>14945113

>he thinks normalfags play story and graphics games

Would nintendo auitists come out from their closet once for while and play PUBG or something to get whiff of modern normalfags tastes?

>>14943166

This right here

>>14943506

The only decent answer

>>14942780

Dude, I started playing video games when I was six years old. If you're younger than twenty-five, I've literally been playing video games for longer than you've been alive.

The difference between now and back then is that in order to make any progress in a game you had to git gud.

>>14945417

I find that real hard to believe given how in the old days, most home computers couldn't be upgraded much beyond adding some memory and maybe a floppy drive. And games were targetted to a platform baseline, kind of like consoles. The Amiga 500 is a pretty good example: you can play most Amiga games on a 1-meg A500. System came out in 1987 and was well supported by game publishers until end of Commodore in 1994. So you're basically looking at the equivalent of a Sega Genesis or SNES, where the developers and publishers don't just bump up the necessary specs and expect people to upgrade. No, they had to actually do the hard work and make their game playable on the common hardware.

>>14945509

what else am i supposed to wear at work, I think you're being hysterical about this one

>>14945565

>PvP

The term you are looking for is Skin Farming and Gambling.

This retarded article is showing it, nobody really plays PUBG/CS:GO, the numbers are skewed for chink hackers and farmers.

>>14943716

good post. thanks anon-kun

>>14945640

I can't even imagine work that requires white T-shirt.

>>14945608

>Online PVP is not gitgud

>t. nub who loses to complete scrubs

I started playing games when I was 5 years old back in the early nineties, so did a majority of kids back then, you have no idea of what you're talking about, in fact I doubt you're older than 20.

>>14945735

>I can't even imagine work that requires white T-shirt.

just about any labor job? Am i gonna go build houses wearing a business button up? or a polo shirt or something? Is it just white t-shirts that are now considered niggery or can i wear a grey one? I'm gonna be real with you here I think you've critically overthinking this because your'e so concerned with what niggers are doing.

>>14945608

where can i watch this in a better size

>>14945087

In the old days there wasn't anyone to complain to, if you didn't like a game. You could tell your friends, that's about it. Now everyone on the Internet is going to make sure everyone else hears what they don't like about $THING. There will be lots of blogs and twitter and antisocial media noise about it, and lots of arguments. At some point maybe you get tired of hearing about it? I do anyway. I had a lot more fun discovering and playing games when I didn't know jack about it before booting up the floppy disk some other kid at school gave me.

>>14945797

>just about any labor job?

Labor? White t-shirt? Wut? You would look like a pig. Camo is the best. This is the real reasons military loves camo patterns. Dirt. Or at least khaki or deep blue (goes well with oil) if you need cheap.

>>14942780

> In the past less kids were playing games.

Bullshit, even back then 7-year olds were playing Zelda on NES and could beat it. A game that today makes grown men cry like little bitches.

The truth is that everything has been "industrialized", every industry is full of eggheads who have sucked the sole out of everything and replaced it with formulas and checkboxes.

Take food for example, you need a PhD in chemistry to even know how to pronounce half the shit on the ingredients list. Everything is a formula and you have no idea what it is you are eating.

The same is true for entertainment. Every game needs to tick off as many checkboxes as possible: it needs the graphics, cinematic cutscenes, a 2deep4you story, QTEs, tutorial, quest markers, and of course they have to be made so even a room-temperature (in Celsius) retard can finish them. The end result is a boring homogenous mess. The same is true for other entertainment as well. Look at all the superhero movies, or how every modern song sounds the same.

>In the past less kids were playing games.

>Back then video games were made for young adults.

Citation needed.

>>14946491

>today's PvP games makes grown Nintendo autists who thought they were gud cry like little bitches

fixed

>>14942780

>vidya is shit today

video games were always shit, what are you talking about?

If anything, its getting better

>indie development being a recent wave

>online distribution

>patches, mods

>better online services in general

>good games still being made

Just don't look at the mainstream, take the less worn path and you will enjoy it

>>14942780

In the past kids wanted to play what adults played. Now adults want to play what children play.

I think you're onto something here, OP.

>Today games are made to pander to retarded high schoolers that buy anything with their moms credit card. The direct result is the complete decline of gaming as a whole.

Today, games are also made to pander to retarded manchildren that pull silly faces at the promise of a cardboard toy. Would it be too far fetched a theory to say that vidya is more 'shit' now because of the sort of people who splash big cash into games are generally easy to please drones who will like any shit they're given because they don't know any better?

Either that or we're just getting tired of the same shit over and over again and as a result most of /v/ is cynical?

Probably a bit of both.

>>14945107

Nigger t-shirts are always oversized and sloppily worn, the sleeves droop low and the hem of the shirt is ridiculously long to cover their asses (where their pants should be)

/v/ is just full of old people that really miss the good old days

>>14942824

THIS chinks are the ones putting pressure on devs to stay away from deep stuff because it runs a strong risk of needing to censored, which costs money to do.

Games used to be made by sane whites and japanese as a product to make money, now it's been diversified by retarded communists funded by other people that want to shit out products and make free money.

>>14943989

>(the "smart" male demographic countering dude-bros

>if I kiss my own ass maybe people will believe I'm a smartie-pie!

>>14953012

>/v/ is just full of old people that really miss the good old days

Not necessarily, i'm in my early to mid 20's, and have been browsing /v/ for around a decade now. Though, the only reason i'm probably even here is because i've been playing games since i was fucking 3, and some of my first fucking memories of life are playing shit DKC 3, Smash TV and Primal Rage on my SNES, and Mortal Kombat and Sonic on my uncle's genesis.

>>14942824

>Hueniggers

The only things the BRs get are just Master System/genesis games. Nobody supports their communist hellhole, and judging by the one huenigger that's always banging on about "always pirate, never buy." they're pretty salty about it.

>and other third world people.

Mexico did, but that's pretty much it.

>>14943882

>because it's stopped being competitive

This honestly is a factor few talk about at all.

>>14953129

If he didn't tuck his shirt in he'd look even more like a nigger, all of his male minority counterpart neighbors dress better than him, all of his friends look like niggers besides Dale who has enough sense to wear a decent shirt while outside.

>>14942780

I don't think underage people then are the cause of cancer.

Every kid who played games back then learned and adapted.

Nowadays it's the developers who adapt to casuals, instead of the other way around.

>>14942780

congrats man, you just won the most retarded post of the day award.

>it's not the jews.jpg

>>14943523

>dudebros

How does it feel to be subverted against fucking white males and not even realize it