/v/ - Video Games

>>14907464

I play 5-20 games a week. I am still undecided about Witchwood / Kobolds. The challenges and tavern brawl makes collecting much easier and accessible but the drop rate of legendary and epics seems to have decreased significantly in the last year or so.

Anyone know a good dubs deck?

>first heroes of the storm thread

>now hearthstone thread

Go. And tell your masters you failed !

just play a real game instead of half of one.

playing vs retarded AI is not fun or challenging long-term, the game depends on pvp

>>14907464

>play without paying

Sure, but can you win without paying? When I played it I only lasted a few matches before realizing the game is the worst TGC I've ever played.

>>14907473

Witchwood is less forgiving with the tuned treasures and stronger bosses. You have to curb the rng ahead of time with a mix of decks that are useful now and ones that could become extremely powerful if you get the right treasure (like the 5 cost scepter or stronger / cheaper hero power).

>>14907479

I liked HS, but I didn't want to pay for anything and my favorite decks got nerfed into oblivion. When I look at the meta now, everyone running 6 board clears or insane deathrattles really pushes me off.

I like the PVE because it's like a roguelike and scratches a certain itch.

>>14907490

Hence why you go for the PVE where you get to construct your deck after each victory, gaining more cards and HP as you get farther in

>>14907477

checkem

>>14907464

its a piece of shit.

>shilling Blizzkike gambling

Get out

I quit playing years ago as the game became too bloated to install on my phone. All the game is just a worse but flashy MTG, might as well just play that on a instead.

garbage game

>>14907682

It is the ultimate 5/10 online multiplayer experience. Enough time for a short game while your waiting for other stuff to finish. Don't be rude.

>>14907768

I like warcraft 3 and I like card games, I refuse to play WoW so this is actually fun for me.

The epitome of jingling keys in front of babies face to get them to smile. Anyone with this installed on any device they own is a fool.

>>14907718

play sv if you want a good card game

We did it, 4chan!

>>14907799

did what

>>14907930

>dumb anime poster

>dumb opinion

>no digits

hmm

>>14908030

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14907789

Alright, your loss. I mean, I'm just hoping someone else actually does phone gaming the only correct way, emulating games that are either turn based or take only like two buttons to play. GB(C) games are perfect in that regard. I pirated the full version of DraStic (having to pirate an emulator is hilarious) and the emulation's alright but the buttons are way worse than My Boy!'s, feel unresponsive. Still able to play lots of games I missed out on like Ghost Trick or BIS, though the latter has frame drops for some reason, especially in the minigames (the battles are fine).

If you can't figure out why some people hate the fucking game, I'll tell you now. Screencap this shit, because it's the 4th thread I post it in.

Hint: it's not the game. It's just a (very) simple card game that lasts 5-10 minutes with some questionably retarded mechanics. The artstyle is 7/10 (for a card game anyway) and the rest is one step above average.

The problem with it is something I call "The Hearthstone Effect".

The Hearthstone Effect

If anything I say next sounds familiar to you, it's because you either played HS or other card games that suffered the HS effect.

HS was built from the ground up as a Freemium card game. Your first few hours are charming and wonderfull. But then it suckerpunchs you with that one match where something guy turns your insides out without you knowing what the fuck just happened. And after 4-5 good matches it happens again. Repeat for as long as you play.

Blizzard identified two key types of players needed for Fremium games to suceed:

<Whales

The guys that actually put money in it.

>Sandbags

Aka: 90% of the playerbase, people who pay nothing or next to nothing.

You know that maxim of freemium games: "It has to be just barely fun so people have a reason to spend money on it"?

Heartstone takes it to the next step. It makes the game A LOT more fun if you pay (insta-gratification for whales) and frustrates the rest of the players while giving them the illusion that they're having a bad time because they suck. But it also reinforces that way with the Arena (or other modes, haven't played in a few years). These modes pass the message that you too, YES, YOU, can get AWESOME SUPER CARD and REK scrubs all day if you pass this challenge! Are you a bad enough dude to clear this EZY PEAZY challenge? The challenge however will pit you against the whales. And after getting your shit handed to you 20 days, you're finnaly ready to kick ass. At least until the newest batch of cards hits, some of the older one's get retired and the process begins again.

Let's supose a "cycle" of these lasts 6 months. A whale will simply buy all the cards right away, while the Sandbags need to play for 3-4 months to grind for them. They'll then enjoy 3-2 months on equal footing with Whales.

This in turn creates a 3-4 months supply of "weaker" players for the Whales to joyufully slaughter. The whales will do this while attributing that 87% win rate to their own "skill" while the Sandbags will assume the 23% win rate is due to bad cards/bad draws.

That's why I call them Sandbags: they're in there for the Whales to beat and justify their own investments in the game.

They are a comodity, bred for being beaten up every "cycle" by the power of MONEY until they too become whales.

So you see, when people tell you that they hate Hearthstone, they don't mean they hate a small and silly card game.

They hate being bred like animals for kosher slaugher.

>>14908151

Sidenote: this is literally what Magic is nowadays too. They picked up on it.

That Heroes of Might and Magic Card game?

Went the same way.

Yugioh? Picked up on it too.

You can justify your investments and play time however you want.

Honestly, if you're having fun with the game, good for you.

But don't act surprised other people vehemently hate it not for what is going on on top of the table, but what happens beneath it.

>>14908161

>Yugioh? Picked up on it too.

Yugioh had insane power creep since day fucking one and you god damn know it.

>>14908168

Yugioh did the same for a diferent reason.

It was a kids product first and foremost, and that's how kids products work: you make something, then you make something Alpha, then something OMEGA BLAST, then Triple something ULTRARAY and the money just prints itself because kids want it and parents just buy it without knowing what the fuck they're buying.

I'm specifically talking about latter Yugioh card series. You had powercreep before, but now you have cards that completely invalidate entire mechanics from previous cycles. Everytime some new set of cards comes out, it's a 50% chance that your entire collection is now unusable. And if you want to stay competitive, it's 0%.

Powercreep can be mitigated. Throwing shit out the window to sell the newest crap is much, much worse.

Hearthstone does that too under the guise of "Well, it wasn't balanced, not with the new content."

At least they let you keep those cards for "Legacy" duels. Those might be the only fun I had with the game last time I played since the meta is fucking wild and not the same boring cookie cutter shit you see every season.

my hearthstone is spagaba#1796

>>14908228

na?

>>14908231

If you're pplaying chink gasha shit, yes. Yes it will.

Reason: the business model is make it fun and grindable, then make the grind progressively more unberable. It's that last month, right before the game fails that whales spend the most money and a lot of chink mobile industry revolves around generating these cataclysmic events where a game just collapses under itself and dies exploding in shekels.

The only sort of games I see being rather immune to this shit are the Living Card Games shtick. The comunity can easily separate between versions (we play until X pack) and there's no whales there since any competitive meta-deck can be built for 30-40 bucks.

They kinda rotate older sets out for competitions, but you can usually tell how well designed a game is by how long this "card cycles" last. 1 year and above is generally good, means that pack of cards you buy for 15$ will last you a minimum of a year and that's a lot for 15$. Then again, the game you're playing might require several packs before you're competitive in which case it might not be worthy it.

Essentially, the card industry went through 3 phases:

>make game -> sales drop -> make new game

>make game -> sales drop -> make new cards

>make game ->sales drop -> make new cards -> sales not high yet -> throw out old cards

Miniture games did the same (look at Geedubs for prime time cancerology).

Hearthstone simply takes full advantage of it using the built-in matchmaking to appease whales desire to REK SUM NOOBS XD and it keeps the Sandbags blind to the fact they'll never have a real chance against whales (or at least, not for long).

>>14907801

Became Reddit

Guess who liked that game!

>>14908370

What game is it?

Come one, tell us. It's not like /v/ is known for berating your shit taste and bullying you.

>>14908404

Faeria

>>14908432

>Faeria

Faggot.

No wait, it looks like a mix of Catan and Heartstone, is it comfy? I only play this sort of games for the comfy.

>>14908451

>It looks like a mix of Catan

I haven't played that so sorry

>and Hearthstone

I legitimately can't figure out a single mechanic that was ported form Hearthstone here. What are you talking about? I can't figure it out.

You should come play soon because its not going to be F2P in a while unless you played before.

shitstone contrarians begone

check dubs

>>14908506

Same anon, diferent IP

>Catan

boardgame, hexagonal, you put pieces on the borders and rake in resources.

>Hearthstone

the UI and artstlye remind me of it. Not much else. I think I'll indeed give it a go.

>>14908451

It's more like Pox Nora where you need to use units to capture fonts for increased resources. It's alright but didn't keep my attention.